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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Bulluss on August 24, 2004, 11:31:38 AM
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Does anyone know what it the status of Monteath?
Earlier this year alot of people were talking him up as a gun recruit and someone that RFC would almost certainly take under the father son rule.
I think from memory he may have hurt his shoulder but not too sure, does anyone know anything they can add to his current status and draft chances?
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Ineligable this season Bully,as he's too young.
Will be eligable next season,and from all reports will play for us if asked to! :cheers
Further bonus is he'll learn under a far better coach than our young blokes now have had.
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The WAFL season started this weekend and Kym Monteath bagged 4 goals and was named second B.O.G. for East Freo colts.
If he keeps this form up (was great early last year too before doing his shoulder) we'll be able to pick him up cheaply under the F/S rule in 8 months time :thumbsup.
Leederville Oval Saturday March 19, 9:25 am
Subiaco 2.3 4.5 6.8 9.11 (65)
East Fremantle 3.1 5.6 8.10 14.16 (100)
E.F. Goals: K. Monteath 4, J. Kennedy 2, D. Foster 2, A. McLeod 2, B. Dalziell 1, C. Jacobs 1, B. Taggart 1, T. Underwood 1
E.F. Best: J. McNamara, K. Monteath, D. Bull, D. Bandy, L. Bowe, K. Little
http://www.wafl.com.au/default.aspx?pg=results&tournamentid=508
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Rhys is playing with Coburg as well
Kim is a little on the light side, so hopefully can get a full season and some conditioning. (says a mate from fremantle)
BTW, is Daniel Strachan eligible this year as well?
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Kim is a little on the light side, so hopefully can get a full season and some conditioning. (says a mate from fremantle)
Weaver on BF says he's also around 185-186cm.
BTW, is Daniel Strachan eligible this year as well?
He's playing for Coburg this year IIRC.
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BTW, is Daniel Strachan eligible this year as well?
He's playing for Coburg this year IIRC.
Yeah Daniel is playing for Coburg and played int eh RFC practice match on Friday to make up the numbers. Daniel Strachan is very very lean.
They also had Rix (the big blond headed bloke) and a couple of others from Coburg making up the numbers.
Thankfully they didn't have either of the Houlihan's (Adam & Josh) making up the numbers ;) ;D :rollin
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"Daniel Strachan is very very lean." A lean Strachan? I seem to remember Greg was built to run the 100 in 10.2 minutes, stopping for 3 pies on the way.
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I'm thinking about cruising down to East Freo Oval this Saturday Morning to watch the East Freo colts number 11 in action.
It all depends on the misses and kids though, might even try and take the camera down to see Monteath Junior have a run.
I'll let you know how I go, might be difficult with it being Easter Weekend and all but I definately want to see the kid in action.
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Hey Guys I managed to pop down to East Freo Oval this morning to catch Kym or Monty as he is known in action.
THis week he didnt play a blinder like he did last week to my disappointment. But here is some facts on this kid:
He is NOT a KPP, who ever said that is talking out of their backside! he would be about 182 cm tall.
He is not a CHF
He played today as a true Centremen, from what I saw he has an excellent disposal by foot and even though he had only abou 12 disposals I was very impressed with the fact that 3 of those were pinpointed passes to forwards that all resulted in Goals.
He is quick but not explosive.
He is definately on the light side and will seriously need to work on his upper body strength
He is definately right footed, tried to kick on his left during one passage but was tackled before getting foot to ball.
Today he basically spent his whole time in the middle of the field, hardly ventured down back or even up forward to my disappointment, possibly needs to push forward a bit because he has a good clean pick up under pressure and can still get a good disposal away, keeps his cool.
Probably my big negative on him is that he isnt an in and under midfielder like Cogs, I would say he was more like Bowden when it came to really getting in and under the packs.
At the end of the day although he wasnt that great today he was tagged in the 3rd to my suprise considering he didnt have huge disposals but I came away thinking he was a skillful kid.
Any further questions I'll be happy to try and answer them.
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Good on you PRR :thumbsup
For a guy who didn't have a great day, was a pretty comprehensive report.
No questions from me other than how old is he again?
Father/son players have to be pretty good these days to give up a draft pick for, so be looking forward to hearing what you think of him by the end of the season if you get the chance to see much of him.
Thanks for the report :bow
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Great reporting PRR :cheers
Probably hard to answer from one game and only 12 possies but what did you think of his awareness and decision making?
That's true Moi. Kym's got to be worth at least a mid 30's to early 40's pick to be worthwhile being picked up under the F/S. Otherwise we'd be better off picking him up with a late pick like we did with Raines.
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It's probably the thing that I was happy about MT,
Kym appears to have the footy awareness around the ground, running to position directing team mates into posistions etc.
I wouldnt say as yet he is worth a second round pick yet, I suppose it would be too much to ask considering he came off a bad shoulder injury last year and could be the reason why he is still playing colts. I Hope this year he learns quite a bit, who knows he might even end up at coburg like his brother at years end.
I will tell you though, there was one passage of play where the ruckman knocked it down his throat, he grabbed it while about to be tackled dodge him then a second guy went to grab him and he spun around him (this is where i got excited) BUT then he ran forward and gave a silly look away handpass that missed his team mate by a fraction LOL I was spewin just a good effort wasted by a silly disposal.
btw moi, he was born 24/08/1987
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Cheers PRR. We need as many players with footy brains as we can get although that silly handpass would fit right in with Tiges at the minute :-\.
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Just the weekly update on the younger Monteath.
Wasn't named in the best players in East Freo Colts 10 goal win on the weekend but did score a goal.
http://www.effc.com.au/news/index.aspx?type=archives&year=2005&newsId=218
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from my understanding monteath is not in liine for father son selection but apparantly strachan is. ;)
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from my understanding monteath is not in liine for father son selection but apparantly strachan is. ;)
I would have thought if Daniel Strachan was already playing VFL footy that he would be too "old" to use on a F/S pick (although I don't know how old he actually is).
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mighty,
he is 20 this year.
In any case there is no age limit for father sons, the criterion is that they cannot be listed with an afl club previously.
What I meant to say is that Strachan is more likely than monteath to get father/ sonned.
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Still not too keen on using a valuable 3rd round pick on a 20 year old when we could pick him up later on in the draft. blaisee, if you had said Daniel Strachan is clearly ahead of Rhys Monteath then I would understand that but his younger brother Kym is only 17 IIRC. A bit of an age difference to compare on another too.
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TRUE
however, strachan can play key position kym cannot, and as you would be well aware we very desparate for some big men that can play
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That's true blaisee.
Strachan was named in the best for Coburg reserves again in their 3 point win.
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Kym was named again the best players.
WAFL Colts 2005
East Fremantle 3.1 6.2 12.3 12.4 (76)
Claremont 2.4 6.6 7.6 11.7 (73)
BEST:
East Fremantle: CONWAY BULL KENNEDY IBBOTSON ANTHONY MONTEATH
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Kym Monteath was again named in the best players for East Freo Colts in their big win. Reckon that would be for the third time in the first 5 rounds. Plus he has kicked 6 goals so far.
WAFL Colts 2005
West Perth 2.0 3.1 3.4 4.6 (30)
East Fremantle 3.1 9.5 12.9 17.13 (115)
BEST:
East Fremantle: TAGGART CIOTTI MONTEATH McNAMARA FOSTER RYDER(C)
GOALS:
East Fremantle: TAGGART 4 KENNEDY 4 FOSTER 2 RYDER(C) 2 UNDERWOOD MCLEOD MONTEATH McNAMARA LITTLE(C)
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Monteath was second best on ground yesterday for East Freo colts. About the 4th time his been named in the best players out of the 7 matches played. He's kicked 7 goals so far for the year.
Peel Thunder 3.4 3.7 5.10 8.14 (62)
East Fremantle 2.2 4.4 7.5 12.5 (77)
BEST:
East Fremantle: G Ibbotson K Monteath A McPherson C Basile C Jacobs D McLeod
GOALS:
East Fremantle: D Foster 3 A McLeaod 3 K little 1 T Underwood 1 T miller 1 B Bayliss 1 A Ciotti 1 K Monteath 1
http://footygoss.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=19445&POSTNUKESID=a76b6ffe13219ab5d449539295c06e5b
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Round 9 WAFL colts
East Fremantle 4.0 4.4 8.6 16.7 (103)
Perth 4.0 6.0 9.4 10.4 (64)
Monteath wasn't named in the best players but did kick 2 goals to take his season tally to 9 goals from 8 games (East Freo had the bye last week).
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Just another weekly update on Kym Monteath:
WAFL Colts Round 10
East Fremantle 2.1 4.7 9.9 12.13 (85)
Subiaco 0.3 1.3 2.6 3.6 (24)
Kick a goal to take his season tally to 10 goals from 9 games but wasn't named in the best players.
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Kym Monteath was named B.O.G. for East Freo colts against Swan Districts yesterday. Kicked 2 goals as well.
WAFL Colts Round 11
Swan Districts 0.3 1.6 3.10 9.14 (68)
East Fremantle 6.3 9.5 12.9 15.9 (99)
BEST:
East Fremantle: Monteath, Anthony, Ryder, Basile, Bowe, Bongiascia
GOALS:
East Fremantle: Foster, Anthony 4, McLeod 3, Monteath 2, Ferguson 1, Underwood 1
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Looks like after a couple of weeks finding his feet after promotion from the colts to the WAFL reserves about month ago, Kym Monteath has cracked it into the best players on the weekend and kicked a couple of goals for East Freo reserves:
WAFL Reserves - Round 15
East Perth 1.0 3.6 4.8 5.9 (39)
East Fremantle 3.6 4.10 6.11 11.15 (81)
GOALS:
East Fremantle - L Durling 3; K Monteath 2; D Jordan, L Fielding, P Talbot-Smith, J Farrant J Borham, A Turco
BEST:
East Fremantle: P Talbot-Smith, M Sewell, K Monteath, T Miller, D Jordan, J Farrant
By the way the spiel on him is:
D.O.B.: 24th August 1987
HGT: 181cm WGT: 78kg
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Not sure why after being names in the best for the East Freo Reserves last week he was dropped back to the Colts this week ??? but Monteath was named in the best as well as kicking a goal:
WAFL Colts - Round 16
East Fremantle 3.1 3.3 4.6 4.10 (34)
Peel Thunder 4.2 5.4 8.8 8.12 (60)
GOALS: East Fremantle - McLeod 2; Shaw, Monteath
BEST: East Fremantle - Bayliss, Ibbotson, John, Brown, Monteath, Stephen
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WAFL Colts Coaches Award Top 10
The top 10 vote getters in the 2005 WAFL Colts Coaches Award to Round 17.
Ryan Brabazon (Claremont) 28
Shawn Colbung (East Perth) 16
Jesse Gribble (Swan Districts) 15
Gregory Beresi (South Fremantle) 10
Trent DeNardi (Claremont) 10
Jacob Williams (Peel Thunder) 10
Kym Monteath (East Fremantle) 9
Michael Van de Klashorst (Perth) 9
Ben Armstrong (Swan Districts ) 8
Cameron Branch (West Perth ) 8
http://wafl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=96163
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Monteath was again named in the best players for East Freo Colts.
WAFL Colts - Round 18
East Fremantle 2.1 5.4 9.5 10.7 (67)
Perth 3.1 5.3 6.6 7.6 (48)
BEST: East Fremantle - Anthony, Ibbotson, Nugent, Bayliss, Dalziell, Monteath, Bandy
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Sounds a decent kid.
2006 draft he can be picked up F/S?
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Sounds a decent kid.
2006 draft he can be picked up F/S?
Kym's available for F/S this year CB. I haven't seen him play though so I don't know as only a Colts player whether he's good enough for a 3rd round pick but he's usually named in best players most weeks.
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Missed the WA U18 side.
Not a promising sign to say the least.
Maybe late pick/rookie him?
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Maybe late pick/rookie him?
I think that'll be closer to the mark CB. We will have less picks this year and our 3rd round will be around the 40 mark before trading so we probably won't use it on a speculative kid (as you say he didn't make the WA U18's) like we did last year with McGuane.
Here are Kym Monteath's stats for 2005. The WAFL site only has them from round 7 up to now.
| Round | Kicks | HBalls | Disp | Marks | In 50 | Goals | Behinds |
| 7 (Colts) | 17 | 7 | 24 | 4 | - | 1 | - |
| 8 (Colts) - BYE | | | | | | | |
| 9 (Colts) | 12 | 6 | 18 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 1 |
| 10 (Colts) | 15 | 11 | 26 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 |
| 11 (Colts) | 12 | 7 | 19 | 7 | - | 2 | - |
| 12 (Reserves) | 9 | 4 | 13 | 2 | 1 | - | - |
| 13 (Reserves) | 10 | 4 | 14 | - | 2 | - | - |
| 14 (Reserves) | 7 | 8 | 15 | 3 | - | - | - |
| 15 (Reserves) | 6 | 3 | 9 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 1 |
| 16 (Colts) | 20 | 4 | 24 | 6 | - | 1 | 1 |
| 17 (Colts) - BYE | | | | | | | |
| 18 (Colts) | 23 | 5 | 28 | 8 | - | - | 1 |
http://www.sportingpulse.com.au/nf/assoc_page.cgi?client=%40WAFL%402393%4030522%40%40%40%40%404%40WAFL%20League%202005%401%40&sID=47
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Looks like there are days when he gets lots of the ball and days when he goes missing. I would just like to know what he does with the ball...are his skills up to it?
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I sent an email off to the WAFL the other day asking about Kym Monteath. They had problems when they changed their stats package earlier on in the year and are trying to obtain the first 6 rounds of stats now. So hopefully they will be able to email the rest onto us.
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In regards to Kym, I can provide the following information:
Height: 181cm (at start of 2005 season)
Weight: 78kg (at start of 2005 season)
DOB: 24/07/1987
Recruited from: Rossmoyne
Kind regards,
Tanya Lowe
Football Operations Assistant
West Australian Football League
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Guys,
I have now seen Kym play a few times to continue my report on page 1 here is a summary:
He has very good disposal by foot.
Still is an outside midfielder, not a Tuck or Cogs inside midfeilder IMO
Still needs to build on his upper body strength
Is quick but not explosive.
Is he worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick yet? Possibly not yet.
I seriously think his shoulder injury last year has hindered his upper weights program this season, I think he really needs another year to build on his body size, with a bigger body he may gain more confidence in himself.
I'd like to see him follow his brother across at years end and play for coburg and perhaps have Richmond look after him, because he definately has the skill.
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Thanks for that PRR :cheers.
I hope we take our near our full quota of 6 rookies next year. Thursty shows the value of using the rookie list to find good kids that aren't ready by the time of the National draft but just need some extra time and AFL guidance to develop to their full potential. Once on the rookie list if they are any good then we get first choice at promoting them onto the senior list whereas in the VFL it's open slather in the draft despite us putting the time into developing a kid at Coburg.
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Weekly update: Kym got best on ground yesterday for East Freo colts as well as kicking a goal.
WAFL Colts - Round 19
East Fremantle 3.1 5.4 7.5 11.7 (73)
Claremont 1.2 1.5 6.6 11.8 (74)
BEST:
East Fremantle: Monteath, Dalziell, IbbOtson, StephEn, MilleR, Bandy
GOALS:
East Fremantle: Foster 3, Underwood 2, Anthony 2, Viney, John, Monteath, Stephen
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I think he will be rookie listed by us unless he is drafted!
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Weekly update: Kym got best on ground yesterday for East Freo colts as well as kicking a goal.
Round 19 (Colts) Stats: 26 disposals (21 kicks, 5 HB), 6 marks, 7 inside 50s and 1 goal.
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WAFL Colts Coaches Award Top 10
The top 10 vote getters in the 2005 WAFL Colts Coaches Award to Round 18.
Ryan Brabazon (Claremont) 28
Jesse Gribble (Swan Districts) 17
Shawn Colbung (East Perth) 16
Gregory Beresi (South Fremantle) 10
Trent DeNardi (Claremont) 10
Jacob Williams (Peel Thunder) 10
Matthew Guimelli (Peel Thunder) 9
Kym Monteath (East Fremantle) 9
Michael Van de Klashorst (Perth) 9
Ben Armstrong (Swan Districts ) 8
http://www.wafl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=96163
not bad when you consider he has also played a few games in the reserves and as Mightytiges quoted was best on ground last weekend for East Freo in Round 19.
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Guys,
I have now seen Kym play a few times to continue my report on page 1 here is a summary:
He has very good disposal by foot.
Still is an outside midfielder, not a Tuck or Cogs inside midfeilder IMO
Still needs to build on his upper body strength
Is quick but not explosive.
Is he worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick yet? Possibly not yet.
I seriously think his shoulder injury last year has hindered his upper weights program this season, I think he really needs another year to build on his body size, with a bigger body he may gain more confidence in himself.
I'd like to see him follow his brother across at years end and play for coburg and perhaps have Richmond look after him, because he definately has the skill.
Like i said, dont f/s the lad but possbily snatch him in the rookie draft
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Weekly update - Monteath was again named in the best and kicked 3 goals.
WAFL Colts 2005 - Round 20
South Fremantle 1.4 5.6 9.7 11.7 (73)
East Fremantle 4.2 7.6 11.11 17.14 (116)
BEST:
East Fremantle: Dalziell, Bayliss, Monteath, Miller, Clark, Nugent
GOALS:
East Fremantle: McLeod - 4, Monteath - 3, Anthony - 2, Clark - 2, Underwood - 1, Miller - 1, Conway - 1, McNamara - 1, Bongiascia - 1, Nugent -1
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Weekly update - Monteath was again named in the best and kicked 3 goals.
Round 20 (Colts) Stats: 19 disposals (14K 5HB), 9 marks and scored 3 goals 1 behind
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Monteath was named in the best again and snagged 4 goals in a 132 point cakewalk!
East Fremantle 8.5 12.8 17.10 23.15 (153)
Subiaco 0.0 2.1 3.1 3.3 (21)
BEST:
East Fremantle: Conway, Foster, Clark, Miller, Monteath, Bandy
GOALS:
East Fremantle: Foster 9, Monteath 4, Conway 2, Little 1, Bandy 1, Basile 1, Viney 1, Anthony 1, Nugent 1, Clark 1, Ciotti 1
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Monteath was named in the best again and snagged 4 goals in a 132 point cakewalk!
Round 21 (Colts) Stats: 18 disposals (10 kicks, 8 HB), 8 marks and 4 goals 3 behinds.
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Hey Guys I went down and saw monty play today ;D
I seriously think we need to get him over to Punt Road and rookie list him. He needs good season or 2 at coburg to bulk up, I was more impressed with his kicking skills today.
First Semi Final WAFL Colts 2005
East Fremantle 5.4 11.8 12.9 18.12 (120)
East Perth 1.0 1.1 6.3 7.3 (45)
BEST:
East Fremantle: THORNE(NT Temp) IBBOTSON DALZIELL BULL BOWE CIOTTI
East Perth: Smith, Kendall, Colbung, Pickett, Macaulay, Domanski
GOALS:
East Fremantle: MONTEATH 4 FOSTER 4 MCROBB(C) 3 RYDER(C) BULL CONWAY McNAMARA THORNE(NT Temp) LITTLE(C) KENNEDY
East Perth: Seal 3, Monterosso 2, Leuenberger 1, Pickett 1
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PRR, did Monty play up forward yesterday as you would reckon if he had snagged 4 goals from the midfield he would have been named in the best players?
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PRR, did Monty play up forward yesterday as you would reckon if he had snagged 4 goals from the midfield he would have been named in the best players?
Half Forward MT,
with spurts in the guts.
he had about a dozen and a half disposals.
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Half Forward MT,
with spurts in the guts.
he had about a dozen and a half disposals.
Cheers PRR :cheers.
Just checked theWAFL site. Monty had 17 touches and 4 marks along with his 4 goals 1. Am surprised he wasn't named in the best with those figures.
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Rookie list him!
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A quieter game from Monty in the WAFL Colts PF - 12 disposals (7 k, 5 hb), 1 mark and 2 points.
A couple of young KPP who are expected to go top 10 in the November draft also played for the East Freo Colts on the weekend.
Josh Kennedy - 16 disposals (10 k, 6 hb), 5 marks and 4 goals 2 behinds including the winning goal with 20 seconds to go.
Patrick Ryder - 16 disposals (12 k, 4 hb) and 4 marks.
http://www.prowess.com.au/pro-stats/WAFL/reports/WAFLC93.html
East Freo will play in the Colts Grand Final next week. So good luck to Monty.
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A quieter game from Monty in the WAFL Colts PF - 12 disposals (7 k, 5 hb), 1 mark and 2 points.
I asked about Monty's game on a East Freo forum and this is the reply I got:
"Kym's game was poor and was summed up in the last quarter when running into a open goal from 15 metres out and missing when we really needed it."
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LOL MT
So he actually won them the match then?
East Freo won by a point !!! ;D
What a star !! :bow
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LOL MT
So he actually won them the match then?
East Freo won by a point !!! ;D
What a star !! :bow
:rollin
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Monty's side East Freo lost the Colts GF but he was named as one of their best and kicked a goal:
Peel Thunder 3.1 4.3 7.4 9.6 (60)
East Fremantle 1.3 4.5 4.6 6.10 (46)
BEST:
East Fremantle: ALEX CIOTTI, TYRON MILLER, PATRICK RYDER, LUKE BOWE, KYM MONTEATH, BRADD DALZIELL.
GOALS:
East Fremantle: DOMINIC FOSTER 3, KYM MONTEATH 1, BRADD DALZIELL 1, JOSH KENNEDY 1
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I thought Peel Thunder sucked major?
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I thought Peel Thunder sucked major?
Their seniors suck and always have but their Colts team has now won back to back flags.
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I thought Peel Thunder sucked major?
Their seniors suck and always have but their Colts team has now won back to back flags.
Then you'd think that most of those kids would come up through the ranks and make their seniors a somewhat decent side in a few years.
I remember hearing how Peel Thunder were just stuffing hopeless, on and off the field.
Hocking was starting to turn things around a bit, then things went to hell and he left.
They've had like a ton of coaches and gm's since they started playing.
They'd be a good place for a wanna-be AFL GM to go and rebuild the club.
I'm a sucker for playing dynasty modes in games, i'd love to go to a really poo team and rebuild them. :rollin
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I'm a sucker for playing dynasty modes in games, i'd love to go to a really pooh team and rebuild them. :rollin
Me too. No matter how crap the team is you can still win the title. lol winning a flag in the AFL Live game with Frawley's list.
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Monty's stats from the Colts GF - 18 disposals (13 kicks, 5 HBs), 8 marks and kicked a goal.
Out of the potential top 10 pick talls - Josh Kennedy had 13 disposals (9 kicks, 4 HBs), 7 marks and kicked 1.1 while Pat Ryder had 12 disposals (9 kicks, 3 HBs) and 1 mark.
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Monteath was awarded the East Freo Colts Best and Fairest over the weekend.
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Monteath was awarded the East Freo Colts Best and Fairest over the weekend.
According to PRE his still a dud! ::)
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Is it likely that Monty will be drafted by us? coz i haven't heard any hints about getting Monty from Miller or TW.
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Haven't heard anything myself, but i wouldn't be suprised if he was put on the rookie list!
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Is it likely that Monty will be drafted by us? coz i haven't heard any hints about getting Monty from Miller or TW.
I contacted Miller a while back asking about Monty but he would neither confirm nor deny anything about out rookie possibilites (fair enough). I haven't heard anything but there was a rumour that one of rookie trainees was from interstate. I have no idea if that could have been Monty.