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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne on July 17, 2008, 05:03:47 PM
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Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Luke McGuane, Kelvin Moore
HB: Jordan McMahon, Joel Bowden, Matt White
C: Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck, Richard Tambling
HF: Mitch Morton, Jack Riewoldt, Brett Deledio
F: Nathan Brown, Cleve Hughes, Adam Pattison
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Kane Johnson, Nathan Foley
I/C: Daniel Connors, Shane Edwards, Dean Polo, Jay Schulz,
EMG: Will Thursfield, Daniel Jackson, Alex Rance
No change
Bumbers
Backs: Ramanauskas Fletcher Lovett-Murray
Half-backs: Slattery Ryder Nash
Centres: Reimers Watson Welsh
Half-forwards: Jetta Lloyd Lucas
Forwards: Monfries Neagle McPhee
Rucks: Hille Lonergan Stanton
Bench: Atkinson Dyson Laycock Peverill
Emergency: Hooker Magin Michael
In: Atkinson, Dyson
Out: Lovett, McVeigh
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No surprises although hopefully Lids is okay and there isn't a late change for Jacko :pray. No more Hyde/Tivs swap again either which is a good sign.
Not sure why we would make Thursty an emergency though. If he was right he'd play. Hopefully Rance in the emergencies is a carrot for him to continue to work hard at Coburg and score a debut eventually this year.
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Disappointing there's no Richo but at the same time glad they've kept the same squad :clapping
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He wont be with us next week so better enjoy the young men ;D
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Disappointing there's no Richo ..........
On one hand so am I but on the other I'm glad they are making sure he is right before coming back. Would rather he play the last 5 at full tilt than hobble through the last 8.
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Richo missing out the last 2 games is through the great work of TW and the match committee.
You only had to see the footage over in Adelaide against Port to know he was not right to play, but what do they do??
ride him, simmo and others to the ground when clearly they should have been rested.
i cant wait for one of you to defend TW on this one..
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mail is that deledio wont play
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l been saying this for year how Richmond manage injured players
Richo is damaged goods now, he was never close to winning the Brownlow medal when playing well but people would say thats not the case. We all find out come Brownlow medal night. l'm not saying he aint been playing great footy nearly his career best, just that with losing we be lucky to pick up votes & umps clearly hate us anyway. Just look at the pathetic decisions against us each week.
Simmonds seems to have recovered more over the break & played well last week which also sparked Patto into action. l thought Patto was great in his role
Deledio pumped with painkillers last week will line up :thumbsup
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Bombers look very top heavy in the forward line with Lloyd Lucas McPhee and Neagle. Looks like its going to be wet so that may help us. Their defence look ordinary particularly around the flanks.
Ive said it before but this is a game we should win but we dont for whatever reason.
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Who's this Reimers that I keep hearing about?
I hate him already.
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Who's this Reimers that I keep hearing about?
I hate him already.
I only hate him when he's playing us - he's in my Supercoach team and has been good value. :thumbsup
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Just picked up Kel Moore for my Dreamteam so I hope he has another blinder this weekend playing on Lloyd! I wouldn't be surprized to see Thursfield come in as a late change if the weather clears up. I hope Lids is 100% but they may replace him with Jackson to tag Slattery.
I'm glad we remained unchanged this week as a reward to the team unit for their performance last week
Stripes
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Just picked up Kel Moore for my Dreamteam so I hope he has another blinder this weekend playing on Lloyd! I wouldn't be surprized to see Thursfield come in as a late change if the weather clears up. I hope Lids is 100% but they may replace him with Jackson to tag Slattery.
I'm glad we remained unchanged this week as a reward to the team unit for their performance last week
Stripes
Just on Lids, channel 10 sport coming up has a Tiger star player in doubt.
gee i hope its not lids but i get the feeling it is...
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I reckon it's Tuck.
Remember you heard it here first.
Actually i had a feeling Tuesday.
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So who was it?
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Just picked up Kel Moore for my Dreamteam so I hope he has another blinder this weekend playing on Lloyd! I wouldn't be surprized to see Thursfield come in as a late change if the weather clears up. I hope Lids is 100% but they may replace him with Jackson to tag Slattery.
I'm glad we remained unchanged this week as a reward to the team unit for their performance last week
Stripes
Just on Lids, channel 10 sport coming up has a Tiger star player in doubt.
gee i hope its not lids but i get the feeling it is...
Yep it was Lids. Showed him just doing handball drills and said he is in doubt. :'( Will be a huge blow if he doesn't play along with Richo. Two of our most important players and both usually star against the bombers.
GO TIGES!!!
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i was told yesterday that deledio has no chance of playing.
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i was told yesterday that deledio has no chance of playing.
then we are in trouble..
one seriously has to wonder why lids even came back on to the ground last week.
A hard surface like subi only made his injury worse one would imagine...
another pat on the back to TW, royal and co. great team management...
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Thursty in for Lids?
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Assistant coach Brian Royal left the door ajar for Thursfield to play against a Bombers outfit that boasts forwards of the calibre of Matthew Lloyd and Scott Lucas.
"If anything happens overnight, Will's there as an opportunity to play.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=63652
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Although Jacko has his flaws and is no Deledio, I'd rather play a 100% fit mid in exchange for a mid (Lids) than risk Thursty if they think he needs a run at Coburg to gain back some match fitness. Moore has done well on good key forwards this year so no reason he can't match-up on Lloyd if he plays inside 50. The game needs to and will be won in the midfield anyway and with a 6-day break coming back from Perth the more mids the better to run out the game.
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Miller on SEN said Lids is playing and we'll go in no change.
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thats good news but he better be 90% fit or more because i would hate for him to be underdone or do some more damage
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i was told yesterday that deledio has no chance of playing.
then we are in trouble..
one seriously has to wonder why lids even came back on to the ground last week.
A hard surface like subi only made his injury worse one would imagine...
another pat on the back to TW, royal and co. great team management...
We all know your extreme hate towards all things TW, but for goodness sake, one would think that the doctor would have made the call as to whether he would come back on. He was shown doing warm up tests in the rooms during the 2nd quarter of the game.
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Fletcher out = Michael in
Connors out - Thursfield in
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Great win by the Tiges
Hard to come back after a six day break and back from the west
Let a mediocre team back into the game - our only downfall was the third quarter
Great by Bowden to milk the last minute
Well done Terry for getting there out of your sick bed
Bad luck Jack, you will be disappointed I'm sure ;D
Go you mighty Tiges - up you Bombers :P
:gotigers
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What an embarrasing win
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We won, that's all that matters :thumbsup
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i was told yesterday that deledio has no chance of playing.
LMAO
Let us know when ur,"Told" anything else... :rollin :wallywink
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We won, that's all that matters :thumbsup
Still, we are no chance of playing finals with that type of form
Falling over the line against a bottom 4/8 side with 3 players injured for pretty much the entire 2nd half is terrible
Cotchin needs to sit out the rest of the season, he's had far too much of a workload on a young body with no preseason
Hughes will get a spell for Richo after getting towelled up by Ryder
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What an embarrasing win
you obviously weren't at the game.
it was a great win my friend and before u start on joel, understand a few things...
joel has won 2 games for us. port and most likely today
point number 2. who do u think invented "the icing of the clock"???
yes thats right it was the BOMBERS!!!
it was a great win today. suck poo bombers
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A win is a win but i think i might only live for another 12 months after that game. How difficult can it be to milk the clock for 2 minutes!!! I think we managed four turnovers resulting in at least two standing shots for goal and another snap. I just dont think we are good enough skill wise to be doing it and it nearly cost us another game. Also not sure if anyone has noticed but at critical points in games Kelvin Moore seems to be going for big screamers and spilling the ball only for a turnover to result in a goal to the opposition. According to my count his butter fingers have cost us at least 5 goals at vital stages of games, otherwise he has i must admit been one of our better defenders.
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I would rest Cotchin in games against Geelong and Hawthorn where we have little chance of winning.
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Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Luke McGuane, Kelvin Moore
HB: Jordan McMahon, Joel Bowden, Matt White
C: Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck, Richard Tambling
HF: Mitch Morton, Jack Riewoldt, Brett Deledio
F: Nathan Brown, Cleve Hughes, Adam Pattison
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Kane Johnson, Nathan Foley
I/C: Daniel Connors, Shane Edwards, Dean Polo, Jay Schulz,
EMG: Will Thursfield, Daniel Jackson, Alex Rance
Quite a young side - we should remember.
1/2 the 22 is more or less 21 years old.
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A win is a win but i think i might only live for another 12 months after that game. How difficult can it be to milk the clock for 2 minutes!!! I think we managed four turnovers resulting in at least two standing shots for goal and another snap. I just dont think we are good enough skill wise to be doing it and it nearly cost us another game. Also not sure if anyone has noticed but at critical points in games Kelvin Moore seems to be going for big screamers and spilling the ball only for a turnover to result in a goal to the opposition. According to my count his butter fingers have cost us at least 5 goals at vital stages of games, otherwise he has i must admit been one of our better defenders.
yes i did notice that. i also noticed schulz is going backwards. i hope polak comes back to play and schulz is shown the door.
what a dud he is...He too goes for the big mark when it punched to the boundary line.
we let too many easy goals go against us when the ball should be punched out of bounds..
great game by browny, foley and it was tambling's best game this year by far...
overall good game and happy to beat those scumbags
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Bowden is copping a lot of flack for the way the game ended, but the truth of it is that there were no options to go to, the Bombers were actually manning up extremey well. Better to do what he did than kick to a contest and turn it over.
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Chris Newman 6, Good performance
Luke McGuane 5, Thought he was beaten
Kelvin Moore 6, Just Ok
Jordan McMahon 7, Was good throughout
Joel Bowden 6, Average throughout, smart at the end
Matt White 7.5 Was very good I thought today
Trent Cotchin 5, Maybe getting tired, Id start to manage his season, rest v Geel & Hawks.
Shane Tuck 6, Good again
Richard Tambling 5, Good in parts, needs to kick goals on the run and not miss
Mitch Morton 7, excellent, 4 goals from a hff, my thanks to the WCE.
Jack Riewoldt 4, wasnt really in it, not his day today.
Brett Deledio 7, Goals, leadership, good game.
Nathan Brown 8, Outstanding in the last. Won us the game.
Cleve Hughes 3, Not in it at all, 1 goal, has the polak incident cost him psychologically?
Adam Pattison 5, I like how he competes, often breaks even. Didnt really follow his game today.
Troy Simmonds 8, Excellent today, 1 of afew who tried to win us the game. Excellent.
Kane Johnson 6, Did ok, average game for him i thought, once again didnt really follow his game.
Nathan Foley 8,Outstanding again, showed leadership when it counted. Helped win us the game.
Will Thursfield 5, I thought our backs were beaten,
Shane Edwards 7, Gave him 7 thought he had a good game with some really good efforts throughout. Good signs.
Dean Polo 6, Did some decent hard stuff, not a classy player but got the job done mostly.
Jay Schulz 7, I thought he was ok today, some efforts were really good.
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Hey Ramps.
You gave Cleve 3 too many, should be 0.
Tambling 5 nah, more like 2
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What an embarrasing win
I agree, both teams were extremely poor and in parts were comical , BOTH TEAMS.
Would be embrasssing if we played finals.
If it wasnt for Morton and Brown ,we get beat, considering they had 19 men after half time, our 2nd half was poor.
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1st half I thought we were ok. 2nd half a complete rabble.
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1st half I thought we were ok. 2nd half a complete rabble.
Considering they had 19 men, and we had a big lead at half time, we were TERRIBLE. A complete RABBLE
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1st half I thought we were ok. 2nd half a complete rabble.
Considering they had 19 men, and we had a big lead at half time, we were TERRIBLE. A complete RABBLE
SCOREBOARD
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1st half I thought we were ok. 2nd half a complete rabble.
Considering they had 19 men, and we had a big lead at half time, we were TERRIBLE. A complete RABBLE
SCOREBOARD
You must not have went, both teams were a RABBLE
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4 point win I am happy u nuts r f9cked
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whingy whinny little stuffn bi getb fioked
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4 point win I am happy u nuts r f9cked
your doing some of your best internet comedy work tonight cub.
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Considering how important the win was to both teams I thought it was a great win!!! And I'm not going to let any of the wallowers take the shine off it. We won 3 quarters, the bombers beat the Lions last week and they have improved. It took some excellent positional changes and coaching by Matty Knights for them to win the 3rd. :clapping
When lloyd kicked that goal in the final quarter, we could have crumbled like we did against Carlton BUT we didn't!! This to me showed that the young guys are learning and finally we won a close one which could have been another "admirable loss" which we already have a kit bag full of. I think a few of the Wallace haters here are quaking in their boots thinking that we may have a realisitc chance of playing finals. :shh
Was it just me or did anyone notice Cotch got his first full-time tag. I'm pretty sure it was Mcphee on rotation with someone else. This was a big factor in how he was contained. He'll learn from it. Unless he is suffering from fatigue or a risk of injury, I'd play him as long as he feels up to it. :thumbsup
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Considering how important the win was to both teams I thought it was a great win!!! And I'm not going to let any of the wallowers take the shine off it. We won 3 quarters, the bombers beat the Lions last week and they have improved. It took some excellent positional changes and coaching by Matty Knights for them to win the 3rd. :clapping
When lloyd kicked that goal in the final quarter, we could have crumbled like we did against Carlton BUT we didn't!! This to me showed that the young guys are learning and finally we won a close one which could have been another "admirable loss" which we already have a kit bag full of. I think a few of the Wallace haters here are quaking in their boots thinking that we may have a realisitc chance of playing finals. :shh
Was it just me or did anyone notice Cotch got his first full-time tag. I'm pretty sure it was Mcphee on rotation with someone else. This was a big factor in how he was contained. He'll learn from it. Unless he is suffering from fatigue or a risk of injury, I'd play him as long as he feels up to it. :thumbsup
Totally agree Tiga it was a great win! If both teams were a rabble then we were the more skilled at being a rabble....we won! We made mistakes, so did they, i dont care if it wasnt pretty or classy. If we have to claw our way up the ladder, so be it....they have a wanker for a captain, we have a ......well hes not a wanker! lol And I'm wondering what the F sort of win will it take for some of our "supporters" to be happy? Nothing is pristine these days, we dont have a team of robots, mistakes will be made but geez we are improving so enjoy every win or just take up another sport/team :gotigers
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Good to see Browny, Simmo and Foley step it up when it looked like we were going down.
Disappointed Bowden took the ball behind only twice. Irresponsible play
Great to have KJ kick a couple of points in the 4th. Always leading by example
I dont care what anyone says about White's kicking, I think he is fantastic for the Richmond footy club.
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We got the job done despite not playing well so that's all that matters. They still give us 4 points for the win. I can't understand why anyone would knock back the chance to play finals because they're frightened we might get thrashed. In the unlikely event we were to make the finals it would give the cubs invaluable experience.
I thought the crowd was the only disappointing thing about yesterday. Not sure if the wrong forcecast of rain that turned people off from going or the fact the Geelong v Doggies game was live on tv but 56k is an ordinary crowd for two well supported clubs like Richmond and Essendon in a game that still had something to play for.
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Great to have KJ kick a couple of points in the 4th. Always leading by example
Lets talk about our very own captain shall we. Yes we won and i am very happy today beating those scumbags but Sugar what was he thinking??
still some of you claim he is good for our football club, how??
Please tell me how that is leading by example..hahaha he is a joke goodbye go back to adelaide when u can pee all u like on anything
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We got the job done despite not playing well so that's all that matters. They still give us 4 points for the win. I can't understand why anyone would knock back the chance to play finals because they're frightened we might get thrashed. In the unlikely event we were to make the finals it would give the cubs invaluable experience.
I thought the crowd was the only disappointing thing about yesterday. Not sure if the wrong forcecast of rain that turned people off from going or the fact the Geelong v Doggies game was live on tv but 56k is an ordinary crowd for two well supported clubs like Richmond and Essendon in a game that still had something to play for.
A lot of Essendon's Sheedy era fans have dropped off. Still well supported but in their games V ourselves and Carlton this year they have never really turned up in great numbers with only the set piece ANZAC really getting them out. 2001 a fading memory.
How would you separate today? A couple of thousand neutrals. 30,000 Tigers. 24,000 of them. That fair?
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We got the job done despite not playing well so that's all that matters. They still give us 4 points for the win. I can't understand why anyone would knock back the chance to play finals because they're frightened we might get thrashed. In the unlikely event we were to make the finals it would give the cubs invaluable experience.
I don't know how many of us hope we don't make the finals, I'd say its very few.
I certainly think that we're dreaming of making the finals if we keep playing that way though.
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We got the job done despite not playing well so that's all that matters. They still give us 4 points for the win. I can't understand why anyone would knock back the chance to play finals because they're frightened we might get thrashed. In the unlikely event we were to make the finals it would give the cubs invaluable experience.
I thought the crowd was the only disappointing thing about yesterday. Not sure if the wrong forcecast of rain that turned people off from going or the fact the Geelong v Doggies game was live on tv but 56k is an ordinary crowd for two well supported clubs like Richmond and Essendon in a game that still had something to play for.
What could be a better motivation than playing finals?
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Great to have KJ kick a couple of points in the 4th. Always leading by example
Lets talk about our very own captain shall we. Yes we won and i am very happy today beating those scumbags but Sugar what was he thinking??
still some of you claim he is good for our football club, how??
Please tell me how that is leading by example..hahaha he is a joke goodbye go back to adelaide when u can pee all u like on anything
Lucky for us the ball was in Bowden's hands in the last minute and not Johnson who would have handballed it to a contest
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We got the job done despite not playing well so that's all that matters. They still give us 4 points for the win. I can't understand why anyone would knock back the chance to play finals because they're frightened we might get thrashed. In the unlikely event we were to make the finals it would give the cubs invaluable experience.
I thought the crowd was the only disappointing thing about yesterday. Not sure if the wrong forcecast of rain that turned people off from going or the fact the Geelong v Doggies game was live on tv but 56k is an ordinary crowd for two well supported clubs like Richmond and Essendon in a game that still had something to play for.
What could be a better motivation than playing finals?
Or a better learning curve.
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We got the job done despite not playing well so that's all that matters. They still give us 4 points for the win. I can't understand why anyone would knock back the chance to play finals because they're frightened we might get thrashed. In the unlikely event we were to make the finals it would give the cubs invaluable experience.
I don't know how many of us hope we don't make the finals, I'd say its very few.
I certainly think that we're dreaming of making the finals if we keep playing that way though.
Sorry infamy, I was responding to the comment of Jack's of why make the finals when we'd only embarrass ourselves.
Sure we played crap especially after half-time but you take any win on the back of 6 day break coming back from Perth. Who was the idiot at the AFL that put that situation in the draw ::). The Swannies just fell over the line against Carlton and they're talking top 4. We've won 4 of our last 5 so we're generating some winning momentum no matter how convincing or unconvincing.
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your 100% correct MT. 4 out 5 :thumbsup
Fantastic wins against quality sides. :banghead
Melbourne, PORT, West Coast and the Bombers. ::) ( all teams which are finals bound : :chuck :thatsgold
Mate, if and when we happen to beat someone above us and a team that is a genuine top 4, then start thinking finals.
Struggled to beat Melb, Nearly through the game against Port, thrashed West Coast when they forgot to turn up in 2nd quarter :lol and struggled again against the Bombers.
I would love to know what some of you smoke around here, it must be good
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yeah but we drew to the dogs and should have won
won 3 out of 4 quarters v the cats and lost
took it right up to an in form hawks , hit the lead late and should have won
and should have beaten the saints at the dome where they never lose
our season has been far beyond expectations this yr and has been a success for us thus far. we could easily win 4 more games this year, and with a bit of luck maybe 5 and make finals. and this has been done without a favourable draw
:gotigers
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A win is a win but i think i might only live for another 12 months after that game. How difficult can it be to milk the clock for 2 minutes!!! I think we managed four turnovers resulting in at least two standing shots for goal and another snap. I just dont think we are good enough skill wise to be doing it and it nearly cost us another game. Also not sure if anyone has noticed but at critical points in games Kelvin Moore seems to be going for big screamers and spilling the ball only for a turnover to result in a goal to the opposition. According to my count his butter fingers have cost us at least 5 goals at vital stages of games, otherwise he has i must admit been one of our better defenders.
That big mark WAS a mark. :banghead
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your 100% correct MT. 4 out 5 :thumbsup
Fantastic wins against quality sides. :banghead
Melbourne, PORT, West Coast and the Bombers. ::) ( all teams which are finals bound : :chuck :thatsgold
Mate, if and when we happen to beat someone above us and a team that is a genuine top 4, then start thinking finals.
Struggled to beat Melb, Nearly through the game against Port, thrashed West Coast when they forgot to turn up in 2nd quarter :lol and struggled again against the Bombers.
I would love to know what some of you smoke around here, it must be good
But we have to start from the bottom and thats what we're doing. We couldnt even beat bottom 8 teams last year. Now we have accounted for them EVERY time.
That's very encouraging to continue the rise. If anyone is going to be disappointed by this season after 16th last year that's pretty stupid. It's a rarity a team goes from 16th to top 8.
A 9-11th finish would still show good improvement. Sneaking into the top 8 would be against history.
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We got the job done despite not playing well so that's all that matters. They still give us 4 points for the win. I can't understand why anyone would knock back the chance to play finals because they're frightened we might get thrashed. In the unlikely event we were to make the finals it would give the cubs invaluable experience.
I don't know how many of us hope we don't make the finals, I'd say its very few.
I certainly think that we're dreaming of making the finals if we keep playing that way though.
yeah you hit the nail on the head infamy.
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We got the job done despite not playing well so that's all that matters. They still give us 4 points for the win. I can't understand why anyone would knock back the chance to play finals because they're frightened we might get thrashed. In the unlikely event we were to make the finals it would give the cubs invaluable experience.
I don't know how many of us hope we don't make the finals, I'd say its very few.
I certainly think that we're dreaming of making the finals if we keep playing that way though.
yeah you hit the nail on the head infamy.
Does no one remember where we were last year?
LAST!
After finishing last just having a sniff of finals is a good result, the important thing is capitalising and getting better next year.
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Sneaking into the top 8 would be against history.
Interesting point TA. I posted to BF early in the season that since about 1990 (can't remember exactly but around then), at least 1 of the bottom 4 sides has made the 8 the following year, every single year except for 1995.
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Sneaking into the top 8 would be against history.
Interesting point TA. I posted to BF early in the season that since about 1990 (can't remember exactly but around then), at least 1 of the bottom 4 sides has made the 8 the following year, every single year except for 1995.
No worries, but I'm talking about the 16th team.
Brisbane comes to mind of a team that went from 16th to the top 8 for some reason but no others come to mind.
It's a very rare occurrence.
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your 100% correct MT. 4 out 5 :thumbsup
Fantastic wins against quality sides. :banghead
Melbourne, PORT, West Coast and the Bombers. ::) ( all teams which are finals bound : :chuck :thatsgold
Mate, if and when we happen to beat someone above us and a team that is a genuine top 4, then start thinking finals.
Struggled to beat Melb, Nearly through the game against Port, thrashed West Coast when they forgot to turn up in 2nd quarter :lol and struggled again against the Bombers.
I would love to know what some of you smoke around here, it must be good
But we have to start from the bottom and thats what we're doing. We couldnt even beat bottom 8 teams last year. Now we have accounted for them EVERY time.
That's very encouraging to continue the rise. If anyone is going to be disappointed by this season after 16th last year that's pretty stupid. It's a rarity a team goes from 16th to top 8.
A 9-11th finish would still show good improvement. Sneaking into the top 8 would be against history.
A 9th-11th finish would be an improvement ::) Havent we finished 9th 10 times in 20 years, :banghead
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We got the job done despite not playing well so that's all that matters. They still give us 4 points for the win. I can't understand why anyone would knock back the chance to play finals because they're frightened we might get thrashed. In the unlikely event we were to make the finals it would give the cubs invaluable experience.
I don't know how many of us hope we don't make the finals, I'd say its very few.
I certainly think that we're dreaming of making the finals if we keep playing that way though.
yeah you hit the nail on the head infamy.
What about first pick in the draft ;)
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yeah but we drew to the dogs and should have won
won 3 out of 4 quarters v the cats and lost
took it right up to an in form hawks , hit the lead late and should have won
and should have beaten the saints at the dome where they never lose
our season has been far beyond expectations this yr and has been a success for us thus far. we could easily win 4 more games this year, and with a bit of luck maybe 5 and make finals. and this has been done without a favourable draw
:gotigers
Good post Shannon, totally agree, dont know about the rest of the year but to date it has been a huge improvement :gotigers
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yeah but we drew to the dogs and should have won
won 3 out of 4 quarters v the cats and lost
took it right up to an in form hawks , hit the lead late and should have won
and should have beaten the saints at the dome where they never lose
our season has been far beyond expectations this yr and has been a success for us thus far. we could easily win 4 more games this year, and with a bit of luck maybe 5 and make finals. and this has been done without a favourable draw
:gotigers
Good post Shannon, totally agree, dont know about the rest of the year but to date it has been a huge improvement :gotigers
thank you 2JD
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Sneaking into the top 8 would be against history.
Interesting point TA. I posted to BF early in the season that since about 1990 (can't remember exactly but around then), at least 1 of the bottom 4 sides has made the 8 the following year, every single year except for 1995.
No worries, but I'm talking about the 16th team.
Brisbane comes to mind of a team that went from 16th to the top 8 for some reason but no others come to mind.
It's a very rare occurrence.
Yeah, get that, I just thought it was an interesting stat. And re: 16th place, only 2 teams in last 20 years have made the 8 from last - Melb to 4th in 98 and Bris to 4th in 99. And re: Jack's post, we have finished 9th 5 times since 1995 but not once in the 40 years prior to that. Go figure!
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A 9th-11th finish would be an improvement ::) Havent we finished 9th 10 times in 20 years, :banghead
To finish 9th-11th would be an improvement
Why? because we finished last in 2007 and won just 3 games + a draw.
This year we've won 7 games, that whether you want to admit it or mot = IMPROVEMENT
I am pretty sure "o great prophet" that your prediction was we would win the spoon again ..... I think it is fair to say that aint gonna happen in 2008 - FACT :thumbsup
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A 9th-11th finish would be an improvement ::) Havent we finished 9th 10 times in 20 years, :banghead
To finish 9th-11th would be an improvement
Why? because we finished last in 2007 and won just 3 games + a draw.
This year we've won 7 games, that whether you want to admit it or mot = IMPROVEMENT
I am pretty sure "o great prophet" that your prediction was we would win the spoon again ..... I think it is fair to say that aint gonna happen in 2008 - FACT :thumbsup
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WP is it an improvement? YES!!
is it acceptable, NO!!
only finals is acceptable in my eyes and ive had a gutful of these honourable 9th finishes.
6th time out of the last 13 years is not on. imo it leaves us in no man's land
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You see thats the problem with the RFC, MEDIOCRACY( dont know the correct spelling) 9th is acceptable to the RFC
In my world, if you can beat half the field home, its a failure.
Why is Bart Cummings , David Hayes etc so successful ?
They keep turning horses over and they dont hold on to the bad ones.
Helps if you know what your doing from day one and dont train DUDS, EG JON,Etc etc.
I have heard alot of lame excuses on this site, heaps.
But the problem is we accept 9th as a pass. WRONG :banghead
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WP is it an improvement? YES!!
is it acceptable, NO!!
only finals is acceptable in my eyes and ive had a gutful of these honourable 9th finishes.
6th time out of the last 13 years is not on. imo it leaves us in no man's land
Daniel, I wasn't talking about what people view as acceptable I was talking about improvement.
The way 2008 stands at the moment we have done that.
The majority on this board never expected finals in 2008, some said (& hoped for ;D) wooden spoon, others said bottom 4 with 4-6 wins.
Are you seriously suggesting you thought we'd make finals in 2008 - I don't think so.
We are coming from a long way back a bloody long way ... and we are improving.
Personally finals in 2008 for me was a pipe-dream, would be nice if it happened but when it was all said and done I just wanted us off the bottom, to see kids get games and see some sign of improvement. With 6 games to go I reckon we've done that
Looking to 2009 - I expect finals nothing more nothing less
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A 9th-11th finish would be an improvement ::) Havent we finished 9th 10 times in 20 years, :banghead
To finish 9th-11th would be an improvement
Why? because we finished last in 2007 and won just 3 games + a draw.
This year we've won 7 games, that whether you want to admit it or mot = IMPROVEMENT
I am pretty sure "o great prophet" that your prediction was we would win the spoon again ..... I think it is fair to say that aint gonna happen in 2008 - FACT :thumbsup
:eyebrow
:jump
WP is it an improvement? YES!!
is it acceptable, NO!!
only finals is acceptable in my eyes and ive had a gutful of these honourable 9th finishes.
6th time out of the last 13 years is not on. imo it leaves us in no man's land
Yes,yes,......we've heard this all b4 and at times shared the sentiment.
Unfortunately Daniel,until such a time as next year,when we are either better or worse than now,
we wont be able to make a logical decision on what is acceptable.
Take 9th in 08 over 16th in 07 ? - surely ........
Next year will be the time to make this judgement.
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I would love us to make the finals, win one or two and then reappoint TW for another five years.
It would be worth just to see Jackstar's head explode.
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I would love us to make the finals, win one or two and then reappoint TW for another five years.
It would be worth just to see Jackstar's head explode.
:cheers
It aint going to happen :thumbsup Dream on
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I would love us to make the finals, win one or two and then reappoint TW for another five years.
It would be worth just to see Jackstar's head explode.
:cheers
It aint going to happen :thumbsup Dream on
But you must admit...
Your head would explode if it did.
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Mate, Wallet wont be getting five years.
I would love more then anything to watch the tiges play finals, reality is we havent beaten anyone above us and we fail dismally when we play quality opposition, FACT
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Mate, Wallet wont be getting five years.
I would love more then anything to watch the tiges play finals, reality is we havent beaten anyone above us and we fail dismally when we play quality opposition, FACT
thats not to say we wont in the future and considering we've come from a place where we couldnt even beat the teams below us, i think you'd call that improvement. FACT
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your 100% correct MT. 4 out 5 :thumbsup
Fantastic wins against quality sides. :banghead
Melbourne, PORT, West Coast and the Bombers. ::) ( all teams which are finals bound : :chuck :thatsgold
Mate, if and when we happen to beat someone above us and a team that is a genuine top 4, then start thinking finals.
Struggled to beat Melb, Nearly through the game against Port, thrashed West Coast when they forgot to turn up in 2nd quarter :lol and struggled again against the Bombers.
I would love to know what some of you smoke around here, it must be good
Well two of those sides (Melb, Ess) have knocked off Brisbane in the last 3 weeks and they're in the top 8. Most of the comp is mediocre so to rule ourselves out when we're just a game out and Adelaide are in free-fall and Brisbane is struggling especially when playing in Melbourne and we play them next is stupid. We all know we have miles to go before we are any good but you can only beat who you play on the day and whether you thrash a side or just scrape across the line they still only award 4 points. The simple fact of the matter is if we're good enough we'll make it and if we're not then we won't.