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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wrennyboy on August 29, 2004, 09:32:48 PM
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Guys now that we have finished wooden spoon we have got to get this Brett Deledio. He will be a very good player. Standing at 188cm and 80kg he can play many positions and is very versatile. Has a great kick both sides and penetration aswell. Courage, good set of hands and a matured body is what makes up Brett Deledio. Here are a few stats from his year at the murray bushrangers. He will develop into a good player and the way he plays is like a mix between cameron bruce and andrew walker at this stage. He obviously missed a few games cause of the national championships, flu and an injury. He is also a gun cricketer.
Rd 16 #18 Deledio Pos: FF EK21 IK0 EH3 IH1 M9 ET4 FF1 FA2 G2 B2
Rd 15 #18 Deledio Pos: FF EK18 IK1 EH5 IH0 M10 ET6 FF1 FA3 G5 B2
Rd 14 #18 Deledio Pos: C EK9 IK2 EH7 IH1 M3 ET1 FF1 FA0 G1 B0
Rd 10 #18 Deledio Pos: C EK20 IK0 EH16 IH1 M6 ET7 FF3 FA1 G0 B0
Rd 9 #18 Deledio Pos: C EK16 IK2 EH4 IH0 M8 ET2 FF0 FA2 G2 B0
Rd 8 #18 Deledio Pos: C EK12 IK0 EH6 IH0 M7 ET2 FF2 FA0 G2 B3
Rd 7 #18 Deledio Pos: C EK11 IK1 EH4 IH1 M5 ET4 FF0 FA1 G1 B1
Rd 6 #18 Deledio Pos: RR EK9 IK0 EH7 IH0 M4 ET5 FF1 FA0 G1 B0
Rd 5 #18 Deledio Pos: RR EK22 IK0 EH11 IH0 M12 ET1 FF2 FA1 G0 B0
Rd 4 #18 Deledio Pos: RR EK17 IK0 EH17 IH1 M11 ET8 FF2 FA1 G1 B0
Legend: EK-Effective kicks, IK-Ineffective kicks, EH-Effective Handballs,
IH-Handball Ineffective, M-Marks, ET-Effective Tackles,
FF-Frees For, FA-Frees Against, G-Goals, B-Behinds
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This is his ais profile
Name:
Brett Deledio
Height/Weight:
188cm/80kg
Sport:
Australian Rules Football
Position:
Ruck/Rover
Date of birth / birthplace:
18 April 1987 - Kyabram
What year did you begin your AIS scholarship?
2003
What is your most significant achievement in sport?
Winning the Kevin Sheehan medal at National U/16 Championships
What is your major sporting goal?
To be a successful player in the AFL
Who are your idols, and why (not necessarily sporting)?
James Hird, Michael Voss, Chris Judd - for the way they play the game
Who has most influenced your sporting career, and why?
My dad - he loved sport and I guess it has just carried on down to me
Do you work or study while training - if so what?
Study - year 11
How do you hope to be remembered when you retire from your sport?
As a courageous, hard running, high flying on baller/forward. Someone who did something about their dreams
What are your career goals after sport?
Own a successful business that ends up going nationwide
What do you regard as the most memorable sporting moment?
Gary Moorcroft's hanger against the Doggies
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Heres a few more players i want to get
Brett Deledio 18 April 1987 188 cm 80 kg (Murray U18) - one of the class acts of the carnival and a likely top three draft pick. An all round athlete who has all the skills and smarts to go places.
Ryan Griffen 27 July 1986 186 cm 78 kg (South Adelaide SA) – a probable top 3 selection. Can play half back but will probably develop into a midfielder. He is double sided, has great disposal, strength and leadership potential.
Jordan Lewis 24 April 1986 187 cm 85 kg (Geelong U18) - a left footer who had a good championship. Knows where the goals are and has plenty of skill.
Richard Tambling 12 September 1986 180 cm 68 kg (Southern Districts NT) - good around the goals and plenty of pace. A little reminiscent of Aaron Davey. Should go early in the draft.
Cameron Wood 4 March 1987 203 cm 86 kg (West Adelaide SA) - a promising tall who has potential. His ruck work is outstanding; he can take a mark and he looks to have the makings of a handy ruckman in the future - but not before a good few years of skills and physical development.
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I think we can safely say welcome to Tigerland Brett Deledio :thumbsup.
I have hardly seen any underage footy this year except for a few snippets here and there of Deledio, Griffen, Tambling, etc. So my opinion is based on what I've been told by other people and what I've read.
The following criteria is what I would judge potential draftees by:
* good individual skill fundamentals:
- can get the pill and has one touch
- disposes cleanly by hand and especially foot (with penetration) both sides of the body
- clean one-grab mark especially away from the body
* Footy smarts:
- good peripheral vision and awareness
- good reader of the play (knows where and when to run to on the field).
- does the 1%ers well - tackling (watches the hips of his opponent), punches defensively when caught behind, sheperding, etc.
* a good attitude and work ethic:
- can work in a team environment
- trains well
- willing to listen and learn from experienced peers and coaches
- on-field willing to work as hard when he doesn't have the ball as when he's got it (i.e. do the team things even if not rewarded with possession)
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I normally say we should go for the best kid available when it's our turn to pick although the pitiful state of list especially in regards to lack of quality talls means that might be compromised. Given we have picks 1, 4, 20, 36, 52, 68, etc.... I'd reckon the order might be:
1) Midfielder - Deledio (although I'm told as wrenny has already mentioned he is very versatile position wise - a la Hird-like in that manner). I liked Griffen too wrenny. Do you know wrenny how his knee is going since he had an op to repair damaged cartilage?
4) KPP - Roughead or Willits.
20) Ruckman - WP mentioned Cameron Wood although some are tipping him to go to the Crows. Will need 2-3 years to bulk up as wrenny says. Alternatively Meeson.
36, 52) Best available kids - no rejects.
Hopefully a trade can score us another high pick even if it's a second rounder.
I'm not sure of the sound of Lewis being a left-footer but that's mainly based on the left-footers we have already like Tivs who get caught out on their wrong side all the time and have to crab sideways killing any attacking momentum. I'm also unsure of how Tambling would go at Tigerland given our record of player development and bulking up skinny kids or lack of :-\.
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Jordan Lewis had a fantastic carnival and is as tough as nails.He already is a decent size,and in the game I watched cleaned up a ruckman twice his size with a perfect shirtfront.
He also has great goal sense.
I'll be delighted if we can get him,it will make a nice change from the assembly line of wimps Beck has provided us with...Fiona,Pettifer ect.
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1) Midfielder - Deledio (although I'm told as wrenny has already mentioned he is very versatile position wise - a la Hird-like in that manner). I liked Griffen too wrenny. Do you know wrenny how his knee is going since he had an op to repair damaged cartilage?
Ymmm im not to sure abotu griffen i will hav eto check into that. Me thinks it will lower his draft status but if we could get him at pick 4 along with deledio at pick 1 that is the best thing ever guys. He didnt do his knee fully he probably just did what me and stafford did just a 4-6 injury. Hopefully the dogs and hawks go for kp talent. Hawks mite go for tambling at 2 and bulldogs a kp in franklin or willits at 3. That would be so good. I would really love to trade fiora for a first pick so we cna pick up jordan lewis. I agree with both of you he is going to be a glen archer type player even tho he plays tac cup midfield now he is tough as nails. And he cleaned up 203cm deluca in that game.
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6ft 2 and can bench press 110kg at 17 years of age (18 now as his birthday was yesterday) :o.
Deledio's coming along nicely so far. Contributing and earning his spot in the seniors while learning his craft at the elite level. That intercept on the HFF city end where he just leaped up vertically, grabbed the footy then played on and passed 50m to Brown (who then handballed to Richo in the goalsquare for a goal) was brilliant stuff :thumbsup
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6ft 2 and can bench press 110kg at 17 years of age (18 now as his birthday was yesterday) :o.
Deledio's coming along nicely so far. Contributing and earning his spot in the seniors while learning his craft at the elite level. That intercept on the HFF city end where he just leaped up vertically, grabbed the footy then played on and passed 50m to Brown (who then handballed to Richo in the goalsquare for a goal) was brilliant stuff :thumbsup
Geez, that's pretty impressive for an 18 yo - 110KG's :o
How good are his hands? A couple of lobbed floating hospital kicks came his way with his opponent up his backside applying massive amounts of pressure, and he just put his mits up and plucked it - one grabber. Quick, Strong, great hands, great skills, footy brain, composure - 18 years old - about time we got one.
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he may well yet grow 2 more inches, he has a huge hand span and has held his own thus far. i have been really impressed by his efforts and his coolness, he does not panic and beleives in himself, he is getting more confident week by week and will be a gr8 player 4 us
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if he grows 2 inches look out riewolt
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i just want to air a bit of frustration here. now we all now lids played another fantastic game on the weekend, and i believe when he was rested in the 3rd quarter it cost us dearly but here is my beef and frustraition and its all about the media.
now a few weeks ago , all from here and sundry were pumping up griffins performance v the cats. the media critics footy followers were going on and on at how fantasic he played. now was all blatant propaganda because on that day , ablett , his opponent kicked 3 goals and had 27 touches , 6 more than griffin if my memory serves me correct. ok we know the kid will be a good player and has talent but
deledios game on sat night was fan effing tastic, his pace and skill and decision making shows he is probably already our most valuable assett. he ran off walker, who won the 100m sprint (and is meant to be the fastes afl player) with ease, he showed judd qualities at an age that judd didnt. this kid played a better game than what griffin played and no mention about it on the couch or othe rprograms, no articles on his performance ect.
i really hope this week griffin and lids play on each other and lids teaches hoim a footy lesson and seal the rising star award
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I can live with it, the less pressure put on him by the media the better off for him!
Which brings me to say, Roughead got like 20 possies and 7 marks in the BACKLINE for Hawthorn last week! :'(
And his still only like 18 1/2 aswell!
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Agree with Razor. Lids is better off without the attention. Probably also a sign he's as good as everyone expected so not a bad thing.
Which brings me to say, Roughead got like 20 possies and 7 marks in the BACKLINE for Hawthorn last week! :'(
And his still only like 18 1/2 aswell!
Most of those were Jason Cloke like - loose uncontested marks and disposals. Roughead may in the end turn out to be a very good player but let's see how he goes manning up on an opponent first and contesting one-on-one. The Hawks didn't move him back onto Bradshaw even though Bradshaw was doing a job on Hay,
Remember the Hawks took Roughead at #2 so we could have only got him using our first pick. Ah no thanks! Take Lids anyday. Our choice was between Tambling and Franklin and although highly talented as well Franklin isn't a KPP.
Our list was totally stuffed at the end of last year. There wasn't an area that didn't need major surgery to fix. Wallace decided to focus first on getting the midfield right with Lids, Tambo and Meyer. Our record of getting smashed in uncontested possessions out in space IMO justifies that decision.
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Remember the Hawks took Roughead at #2 so we could have only got him using our first pick. Ah no thanks! Take Lids anyday. Our choice was between Tambling and Franklin and although highly talented as well Franklin isn't a KPP.
I reckon Franklin will turn out a Goodes-like roaming tall. With added maturity and discipline could be very good IMO.
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I can live with it, the less pressure put on him by the media the better off for him!
Agree Blade & MT - if the media are all caught up with others that's great. Let the kid be and sit back and enjoy.
I had to laugh watching the replay and they were talking about the Rising Star and Matthew Campbell & Peter Wilson said something about Lids being a "shoe in" with competition coming from Griffen and then that twit Tim Gosage that should be Gooseage said "i don't think so what about Mundy from the Dockers". Poor Tim makes Eddie's commentary seem balanced :rollin
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I reckon Franklin will turn out a Goodes-like roaming tall. With added maturity and discipline could be very good IMO.
I agree Jake and wasn't knocking him for it. Just saying he isn't a true KPP in the Jonathan Brown, Richo, Riewoldt sense. IMO the Tiges, Hawks and Dogs should all be pleased with their 2004 draft choices so far. We'll see in 5 years if anyone did better than the others.
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deledios game on sat night was fan effing tastic, his pace and skill and decision making shows he is probably already our most valuable assett. he ran off walker, who won the 100m sprint (and is meant to be the fastes afl player) with ease, he showed judd qualities at an age that judd didnt.
If Lids gets anywhere near Judd's form in a couple of years I'll be a very excited Tiger supporter. Just amazing to watch this guy in full flight in the finals.
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A win's a win for Deledio
12:58:18 PM Wed 24 May, 2006
Mark Rasmussen
Exclusive to richmondfc.com.au
After the Tigers pulled off the unthinkable and beat ladder-leaders Adelaide in a game described by Essendon coach Kevin Sheedy as "basketball crap", others haven't been as critical, with some suggesting it was a coaching masterstroke.
Exciting young Richmond playmaker Brett Deledio says that while Sheedy can say what he likes, the Tigers got the four points and in a premiership season, that's all that matters.
"I guess Sheeds has been saying it hasn't been the right way play to footy, but in the end we got the four points, so I guess that's where it's at, Deledio told Sportal.
"It's not the way we play footy week in week out, it's just the way we set out to play, though we didn't really set out to play that way. It's just that Adelaide flooded back so much that we couldn't move forward in a hurry.
"We had to hold on to the footy and wait for a bit of space to open.
"Terry didn't even set out for us to play that way. We discussed a few different game styles that we need to get into our game. The way it actually turned out wasn't in Terry's plans at all."
Everyone in the crowd from commentators calling the game to the humble spectator could see all Adelaide had to do was man-up. They didn't and consequently lost.
According to Deledio, Joel Bowden had a field day down back, collecting 34 possessions and 20 marks.
"Joel Bowden was pretty happy they didn't man up. I was a little bit surprised they didn't. It was only in the last quarter that they decided to man-up. I guess they weren't used to it as much as any side wouldn't be used to it."
In the end despite all the criticism from Sheedy, Richmond has had the last laugh, having won four of its past five games. Essendon on the other hand has lost seven straight.
"We've won four of our last five. If we can keep that up hopefully we can sneak into the top eight at some stage," an excited Deledio said.
Although teams don't like to get ahead of themselves, especially with two-thirds of the season to play, Deledio is hoping the Tigers can eventually make the eight and play off in the finals.
"Everyone at the club wants to get a chance to play finals footy. We probably should have got there last year but a few inconveniences for us meant we missed out.
"It's definitely in our goals to play in finals and make the big stage."
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=268251
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Just on Brett Deledio whose performance has been brought up for discussion- i dont think hes lazy but he needs to understand that a good game does not constitute getting the ball on the wing 1 time per game and running 60 metres and going long to a contest...and then thinking...poo that was a good play.
The problem is that he seems to only produce this play once per game, when he is capable of doing it atleast a couple of times a quarter. Theres no point Brett pee farting around the back of packs, he needs to develop as a playmaker...he needs to sit 20 metres forward of the play (some of you might call it cheating) out on a flank away from the packs..the clear instruction should be ... get it out to Deledio or even a Richard Tambling or a Danny Meyer. I understand you need to have your turn in the action...but for mine...speed is best used in space...we dont seem to understand that.
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he in other words has been lazy
when i stated he has been lazy in other threads, i say it because he has become lazy in his hunger and aggression and lazy in his mindset.
many times he gets a possession on teh back flank or wing, has an opponent infront of him, he has 5 options at this point
1/ kick the ball long
2/ handpass the ball to a running player or stationary player
3/ short pass the ball
4/ take the opponent on with his blistering pace
5/ use option 2 or 3 and then run fwd and gather the 1-2 and keep running as judd does all the time.
deledio 99% of teh times uses options 1,2 and 3
when he has the ability to use 4 and 5 but does not use it enough
thats why i say he is lazy in the mind, he has teh talent, the ability and the skill, but not the mind to tell him when and where to use it!!!
wasted talent is a sin, and he wastes his many times
this is why with time bling will be a btter player than lids, because bling never stops moving and always looks to take opponents on
lids should learn from hyde and petts too. they are taking risks and taking opponents on all the time and dont have deledios pace.
thats why i say lids has become lazy in his mindset, he took more risks last yr
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good post X and spot on in terms of the options hes taking at the moment. The kid needs to use his run more, hes way to stagnant at the moment.
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good post X and spot on in terms of the options hes taking at the moment. The kid needs to use his run more, hes way to stagnant at the moment.
just wanted to clarify what i meant by lazy, im not saying he is lazy and not trying, just think his mind has become a bit lazy or maybe not adventurous in his decision making
he should be told not to be afraid to take em all on judd style, he can do it. look at petts, as soon as king said to him, take a screamer like ur junior days , u can do it, go 4 it!
lids just has to back his ability more and just "nike" it
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Reasonable point. But it's only his second week back from a knee injury don't forget.
I'm not to worried about Lids.
It's the senior players who need the finger pointed at them.
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He's only a kid, have a look at how long it took Pettifer to blossom.
I know that Deledio has shown a lot more than Pettifer did when he started, but give him a break, though it's hard not to think that he could do more.
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no one is expecting miracles, but last yr he did it, this yr he should do it more, the only reason petts didnt come on sooner was spud, and i know that 4 a fact! i speak to petts uncle often and spud had it in 4 him!
deledio is just playing too safe and reserved, nothing to do with his knee, he has been doing it all yr, i hope after the break he reads these posts or the cosaches pass on the same advice, no fear go for it, if u get caught who cares , just take the game by the horns and show what u can do!
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Spud, that word makes my skin crawl!
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deledio is just playing too safe and reserved, nothing to do with his knee, he has been doing it all yr, i hope after the break he reads these posts or the cosaches pass on the same advice, no fear go for it, if u get caught who cares , just take the game by the horns and show what u can do!
Good advice X. Also encourage Lids when he takes them on to strive to get to 50 and have a running shot at goal rather than just short chips to teammates.
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Good advice X. Also encourage Lids when he takes them on to strive to get to 50 and have a running shot at goal rather than just short chips to teammates.
Hell-lay-loo-ya :clapping :clapping :yep :yep
That was one of the many frustrating moments against the Dawks - not once but twice Lids had the ball, bounced along the wing got to 50 and then centred a kick - have a shot son :thumbsup One of them he could've run into within 25-30 metres and had a shot - nup kicked it to the top of the square :'(
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well lets hope lids reads this forum and in teh 2nd half of the season follows our advice!
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to many budding coaches in here i reckon ;D nevertheless whats been said is true and someone needs to tell him his gotta run and impact more.
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to many budding coaches in here i reckon ;D nevertheless whats been said is true and someone needs to tell him his gotta run and impact more.
whats his mobile number, i will tell him!
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Just ring: three-six-two-four-three-six ;D
to many budding coaches in here i reckon ;D nevertheless whats been said is true and someone needs to tell him his gotta run and impact more.
We'll nickname him Forrest Gump................ Run Forrest Run ;).
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At least while you are bagging Lids you are giving poor Krak a break :invasion :jump :ROTFL :ROTFL
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At least while you are bagging Lids you are giving poor Krak a break :invasion :jump :ROTFL :ROTFL
Tiger supporters are very good at multi-tasking. We can bag any number of players at once after just one bad loss lol.
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Benefit of the doubt for me. He is carrying an injury. First major injury to an extent where he has had to play not at 100%. Last year he was free of any such issues. I do agree that he needs to be more creative but Ill cut him some slack.
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I reckon we are all having a crack at Lids because of the fallout from the shocking lost to Hawthorn. Also, I reckon if you look back to when Judd was Lids age he wasn't exactly taking everyone on like he is now, or at least was before he did his hammy. Not only do you need the ability, but you need the confidence to take people on. Lid's career is only 30 odd games old, we can't be expecting too much of him otherwise we will be setting ourselves up for dissappointment.
Just my 2 cents
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Judd won a Brownlow in his 3rd year so comparing Lids to Judd is unrealistic at this stage despite the similarities in build and movement (although Lids is 4kg heavier). Lids need to find what works best for himself and Richmond. He plays less in the guts than Judd does and like most of our midfielders hasn't kicked as many goals as we would like or need.
Anyway out of interest here are Judd's and Lids' first and second year stats (Source: finalsiren.com):
Judd
(2002) 22 games, avg. 15.0 possies, 2.2 marks, 2.9 tackles, 21.12 (1.0 goals per game), 63.4 ranking points.
(2003) 23 games, avg. 18.2 possies, 2.3 marks, 3.2 tackles, 19.15 (1.3 goals per game), 75.2 ranking points.
Lids
(2005) 22 games, avg. 15.3 possies, 3.9 marks, 1.7 tackles, 14.10 (0.6 goals per game) 61.4 ranking points
(2006) 11 games, avg, 17.2 possies, 6.6 marks, 1.7 tackles, 3.5 (0.3 goals per game), 74.7 ranking points.
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Hmmm! He is on track ;) :gotigers
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Hmmm! He is on track ;) :gotigers
He certainly is Mopsy :thumbsup. Awesome game today. The week off seems to have allowed him to get over any niggle with his knee.
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He was very good today :clapping
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He was very good today :clapping
he was and how about krak having a krak!
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Krak did my recruiting strategy no harm at all yesterday lol.
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For someone who's a great kick Lids' goalkicking has been off this year - 3 goals, 9 behinds. He kicked 14.10 last year so it's only been this year.
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lids is playing lazy and lost
even BT said it in his call yesterday, lids just looks lost out there and i blame terry wallace at this stage for really confusing the game plan.
terry said he totall changed his game plan after the sydney thumping because he at that stage believed that the run and carry style would not work but the tempo control game plan would.
well the tempo game plan can only work sometimes and only when u have 2 massive huge strong key defenders! we dont have them
this rubbish game plan that terry has now has a ripple effect, its stuffing up the development of our young future guns, its showing up players that have no real talent/skill eg tiv, tuck, hyde,hall,rodan etc and its totally wrecking richo, the run and carry game plan at least got the ball inside 50 quicker, meant richo had more contested ball, meant guys like krak and brown fed off the crums, but now teh game plan is up poo creek and its all because terry was too reactive after the sydney thumping
now i would rather us lose by 100 pts trying to play good footy than watching that crap i saw yesterday
that means
play paddy on a wing , play joel on a half back flank or how about putting him in the guts .
bring in mguane to playt the yr out in defence with schulz
pis.s off hall, tivendale rodan for good
play the young kids and give raines a run or 2 in the middle , his body is alot harder now than deledio and isnt afraid to put his body on the line, unlike lids who is beginning to look too precious .
bring back patto, the worst thing we can do now is make the finals
we need a total overhaul again
here is a chance for guys like jon to play the yr out
its tiime 4 terry to play meyer in his rightful position!!!
we need a strong spine
mguane
schulz
sugar
richo
staff/patto/hughes/snake (can all rotate FF)
the time has come now, terry is 2 yrs in and we are not much better off because we are a team still full of pathetic overrated players
we must trade/delist tiv, hall, gaspar, rodan, tuck, staff, chaff, krak, roach,
we need to recruit 2-3 KP backmen, aker, gardiner and physically and metally tough players who are not afraid to get their bodies dirty and hit! its a shame polo is 15 kgs heavier as he was teh balls, but not the frame, i hope in time and 2-3 more preseasons in the gym, he can bulk up as he has what we are looking 4
terry has to stop kidding himself and thinking his master tactics will always win, because u need the cattle, and by continually praising players who dont deserve it he is just following the spud legacy
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I reckon it was Lids worst game yesterday.
I was worried about the defensive side to his game last year and had seen improvements this year but yesterday he allowed Gramm in particular early too much freedom and it resulted in 3 early goals :banghead
As I said in the GTUP award - to be a champion you need to know when to defend and and when to attack. Yesterday he needed to defend and be defensive to pressure his opponent and he didn't.
I appreciate it probably isn't a natural insticnt for the kid but I think it is definitely something he needs to work on.
As for the goal kicking - he's never been a great set shot, much better on the run - at the moment it seems to be a confidence thing. When he should have shots on the run he is looking to pass it off :-\
All part of the learning process
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I agree WP but I think some blame should be pointed at Terry for a poor match-up. Gram has been the Saints best rebounder all year and one of their most important players. He is now their Joel Bowden. He needed to be tagged or dragged to the goalsquare by his opponent. Unless Wallace wanted to teach Lids about sticking to a tight tag or playing out of the goalsquare which he did neither of I didn't see the point of Lids being the match-up for Gram. Polo or Hyde should have been given the job.
When he should have shots on the run he is looking to pass it off :-\
I hope that habit is not being passed on by the more senior guys. It appears to be a stupid Richmond habit :scream.
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When he should have shots on the run he is looking to pass it off :-\
I hope that habit is not being passed on by the more senior guys. It appears to be a stupid Richmond habit :scream.
its the tiv virus
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its the tiv virus
Touche - I'll pay that one ;D
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Probably Lids game for us so far. Worked up and down the whole ground and split the lines. That second quarter goal was all speed and class :bow.
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It was a good game from the kid today ;D
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A bright spot in a dark day. Watching Judd would have been great education for Lids. Showed some Judd-like glimpses too with his runs and gives although he should have gone for goal when he ran inside 50 instead of dishing off to Richo and stuffing up a certain goal.
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the only fair dinkum effort yesterday came from Brett Deledio. Tried from start to finish but you cant beat a WCE team unless you have 22 contributions- yesterday we hardly got any at all but Deledio deserves his money for his game...atleast he had a go!
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lids was gr8 at getting the ball, but hopeless once he got it! he made wrong and clumsu errors.
our best and hardest worker was polo, followed by blingers and then raines
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I would blame some of Lids' teammates for standing with their hands on hips ballwatching rather than running to the right positions or leading up the ground. And he wasn't the only one. I remember Howat collecting the ball on the boundary deep in the pocket and rightly kicked to the top of the square. Only problem was not one Tiger decided to stand in or run to that hot spot. We weren't meantally switched on from the start. How about that Eagles mis-kick in the first quarter that floated in the air for eternity only to land in Staker's arms 10m out from goal with 4 Tigers (one was Sugar :-[ ) all expecting someone else to go for it :banghead.
The one time Lids did stuff up was when he ran inside 50 and dished the ball off to Richo, who got tackled before he got his boot to the ball, instead of having a running shot himself. At least he was trying to make things happen and get our running game going as did Polo, Raines and Tambling. That run to attract Eagles to him then give to Staff on his own inside 50 was brilliant. The problem for the few who were busting their guts out was we had more passengers than the 5.35pm super express to Frankston :banghead.
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Deledio is the very least of our worries. How about finding some quality Backmen for a start.
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No need to worry about Lids
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Lids has had a really good 2nd AFL season with little reward for his hard work.
He still needs to work on his defensive skills but there has not been any second year blues and the future looks really bright for the kid from Kyabram.
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Would expect Lids to be in the top 8 in the B&F.
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I haven't read the EOTT section for a while so I just noticed Chocco Royal wants Lids to get much fitter over pre-season. Also sounds as though he won't be moved around so much from one position to another next year.
Over the next pre-season, I envisage Brett focusing on further improving his fitness levels. He still needs to work harder during matches to cover more ground.
If he can get his fitness levels up to that of an elite athlete, and run consistently harder on game day, I’m certain he will live up to the high expectations he places on himself, because he is such a talent . . .
http://210.50.4.102/rfc/
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Does anyone know if Lids will defend his AFL Grand Final Sprint title? Or will JON run instead?
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Does anyone know if Lids will defend his AFL Grand Final Sprint title? Or will JON run instead?
Don't think he is Julz and I read that this year's sprint will be run under handicap rules. ::)
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Nathan Foley is running in the sprint this year.
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Does anyone know if Lids will defend his AFL Grand Final Sprint title? Or will JON run instead?
Don't think he is Julz and I read that this year's sprint will be run under handicap rules. ::)
Don't tell me this is another AA brainstorm ::). How stupid can you get!
Good luck to Axel anyway. Wasn't he the fastest over 20m at the club?
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Surprised he didn't poll a vote in the Brownlow.
Danyle Pearce from Port polled 13.
Brett Deledio has a lot of work ahead of him before anyone should be calling him a superstar or our next big hope.
It won't just happen because we all hope it will.
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Agree Magic. He obviously has the talent but the "potential superstar" tag means nothing. He still has his flaws which he needs to irradicate from his game before he can rise up to the level he and us would love him to get to.
Hopefully unlike in the past we can now develop our own genuine A-grade superstars rather than producing then overrating good honest footballers.
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Agree Magic. He obviously has the talent but the "potential superstar" tag means nothing. He still has his flaws which he needs to irradicate from his game before he can rise up to the level he and us would love him to get to.
Hopefully unlike in the past we can now develop our own genuine A-grade superstars rather than producing then overrating good honest footballers.
Next year I reckon Lids will really strut his stuff and show that he will become a A++++++ player :thumbsup
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Agree Magic. He obviously has the talent but the "potential superstar" tag means nothing. He still has his flaws which he needs to irradicate from his game before he can rise up to the level he and us would love him to get to.
Hopefully unlike in the past we can now develop our own genuine A-grade superstars rather than producing then overrating good honest footballers.
Next year I reckon Lids will really strut his stuff and show that he will become a A++++++ player :thumbsup
No pressure tho... :rollin
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Agree Magic. He obviously has the talent but the "potential superstar" tag means nothing. He still has his flaws which he needs to irradicate from his game before he can rise up to the level he and us would love him to get to.
Hopefully unlike in the past we can now develop our own genuine A-grade superstars rather than producing then overrating good honest footballers.
Next year I reckon Lids will really strut his stuff and show that he will become a A++++++ player :thumbsup
No pressure tho... :rollin
LOL
We would love it if that happens Bluey but I hope you don't mozz him ;).
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Agree Magic. He obviously has the talent but the "potential superstar" tag means nothing. He still has his flaws which he needs to irradicate from his game before he can rise up to the level he and us would love him to get to.
Hopefully unlike in the past we can now develop our own genuine A-grade superstars rather than producing then overrating good honest footballers.
Next year I reckon Lids will really strut his stuff and show that he will become a A++++++ player :thumbsup
No pressure tho... :rollin
LOL
We would love it if that happens Bluey but I hope you don't mozz him ;).
Well let's hope Lid's doesn't read this :P
Although if you are... I'm 5'11, brown hair, green eyes. My number is 041---, maybe you should just PM me ;) No pressure though :rollin :lol
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5'11 - sheesh you're tall. I'm only 5'6
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5'11 last time I checked :P Not sure if I've grown much since then. People tell me I'm tall all the time, but I don't feel it... I just feel normal :lol
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(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5402099,00.jpg)
Good skills: Tiger Brett Deledio tries his hand at a different sport while showing community spirit at the North Richmond Housing Estate yesterday. Picture: Peter Ward
Fame doesn't faze Deledio
28 February 2007 Herald-Sun
Daryl Timms
YOUNG Tiger Brett Deledio doesn't believe all senior players have been tarnished by Daniel Kerr's weekend assault on a Perth taxi driver.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said the West Coast star's actions had tainted all senior players.
Deledio said he didn't find it difficult handling diversions caused by being a recognisable league footballer.
"Look, you have to pick your right times when you have got to do whatever you are going to do," he said yesterday.
"Personally I haven't found it too hard but I can't talk for anyone else."
Deledio said he was sometimes disappointed that league footballers were so heavily scrutinised.
"But that's just the position we are in, but we choose to do it (play footy)," he said.
"You have to set the right example and follow that lead, I guess.
"If you come off a bad game, the last thing you want to do is have people pressure you for autographs and photographs and whatever.
"But I guess you have to put a smile on your face for those people because it means the world to them."
Deledio said he had been unaware of Demetriou's comments about Kerr but said he believed it was a fairly general statement.
"I'd be disappointed if we were all looked on in that way," he said.
Deledio and nine of his teammates, including Joel Bowden, were at the North Richmond Housing Estate in Lennox St yesterday to continue their community work.
Two of the players are at the estate each Tuesday afternoon as part of the "Solid Ground" after-school program.
Bowden, the leader of the community project, yesterday presented the children with cricket bats, footballs, soccer balls, baseball and table tennis equipment, which he paid for with money won in the AFL Community Leadership Award.
Deledio said the children at the estate, as well as the players, enjoyed the program.
"It's good to be able to help the kids and put a smile on the faces," the 19-year-old said.
The North Richmond Housing Estate accommodates up to 5000 people, including about 800 children aged four to 16.
Deledio, preparing for his third AFL season, wasn't fazed by the extra attention he got last year.
"That's just the way it is – that's footy," he said.
"I'm still trying to deal with it all and it's a good learning curve which I'm enjoying and hopefully we can play in some finals this year."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21299342%255E19742,00.html
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I had a thought about this just yesterday.
Gary Ablett and Fraser Gehrig started off as wingers/half fowards before stacking on some bulk and becoming full fowards.
Do you think Lids, say at the age of 26-27 could possibly do this?
Taking into account that our draftees all develop well, and all we lack is a strong foward presence?
He'd be quick, strong mark, good kick, almost impossible to match up.
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see no reason why not, he could already do that
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see no reason why not, he could already do that
Utilise him in the midfield/hff area now, but put him on the Lance Whitnall program later on and get him to 100+ kg. A man mountain.
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see no reason why not, he could already do that
Utilise him in the midfield/hff area now, but put him on the Lance Whitnall program later on and get him to 100+ kg. A man mountain.
whitnall, wash your mouth out wayne ;D
at his current build and height he could already be a damading FF. He doesnt need to become your stereotypical key forward, it is the opposition team that needs to find a match up for lids if he plays FF.
but i agree with the fact that i don't want him as a permanent key forward. Would like him a forward flanker/midfield role. if he can post 40+ goals in a season (2 a game is reasonable) and average 20+ possies he will have earned his no. 1 tag and most importantly will benefit the club
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Bob Pratt 180cm 76kg
Jack o'Rourke 178cm 73.5kg
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I had a thought about this just yesterday.
Gary Ablett and Fraser Gehrig started off as wingers/half fowards before stacking on some bulk and becoming full fowards.
Do you think Lids, say at the age of 26-27 could possibly do this?
Taking into account that our draftees all develop well, and all we lack is a strong foward presence?
He'd be quick, strong mark, good kick, almost impossible to match up.
It probably depends whether Lids' body could handle the extra weight without breaking down. Lids isn't the height of a key forward (Gehrig is 195cm, 106kg; Lids 189cm, 90kg) even though he can play the leading forward role. I think Lids may end up forward when he gets into his late 20's and starts to slow down but he'll probably end up more a Lloyd type forward rather than a gorilla like a Gehrig or Barry Hall.
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if we can get him to become our version of Brad Johnson then thats what the aim should be. Mind you, if we dont start improving, we may have problems holding onto him over the next 3 years.
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if we can get him to become our version of Brad Johnson then thats what the aim should be. Mind you, if we dont start improving, we may have problems holding onto him over the next 3 years.
We'll be just starting to peak by then ;).
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TALKING POINT - The Age
Where to play Brett Deledio?
He started half-forward and saw little of the footy. In the second half he went to a back flank and through the middle and saw a lot of it.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfmatchreport/small-roos-run-tigers-ragged/2008/03/30/1206850706987.html?page=fullpage
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Wherever he enjoys playing because he doesn't seem to be having much fun ATM.
Actually slash that, he should play wherever the coach bloody well wants him to.
Was a passenger in the first half and well beaten when the game was a contest.
Needs to improve his performance.
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The middle.
He needs to learn how to shake a tag and with Foley taking the No 1 tagger he will more than likely be given more room in the middle that what he had previously.
We need his size and skill in the centre and we desperately need his ball delievery into the F50. Too mnay of our midfielders kick high looping entrees which give the defenders far too much time to get the the drop of the ball and spoil. Lids spears it in to a lead. The only other player who does that is Browny but unfortunately I don't think he has the speed or evasiveness to play the midfield role any longer.
Stripes
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Gotta play him in the guts.
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isnt he out of contract at end of year ???? ummmmmmmmmm
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why the poll Wallace dont even know where to play him
Deledio dont even know wtf is going on :rollin
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Terry has got to stop fluffing around with lids and bite the bullet.
Midfield.
He can kick one or two goals from the midfield which is as many as he is kicking up front but in the process he'll pick up 20 possessions.
If he fails in the centre well at least we won't die wondering.
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His biggest problem as a mid fielder IMHO is that he doesn't apply enough defensive pressure. Opponents run off him to easily. He must work on this
Personally, I'd play him off the wing, running at the bounce to be first receiver to get the ball in quick to the F50. Would rather see him resting in the fwd pocket than rotating of the bench as most mids do these days
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If Lids got 5 possesions in the first 5 minutes of a game, his opponent would be too scared to run off him.
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In the midfield, with Foley, Richie, Browny and Bowden.
Please Terry, Please :pray
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isnt he out of contract at end of year ???? ummmmmmmmmm
2009.
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Midfield !!!
Resting: Forward
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midfield
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We have spent the bast part of a decade and a half debating where Richo should play.
Is Lids going to become the new Richo?
Where do we play him?
:blah :blah :blah
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Midfield !!!
Resting: Forward
Yep. Get him to deliver the ball to the forwards. A waste playing him as a permanent forward even for a half with our poor midfield. Only play him forward as a pinchhitter or to expose a mismatch.
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A Richmond supporter called into SEN after the game last night bagging Lids for not living up to his reputation and saying for such a skillful footballer he gets a lot of the ball but isn't damaging with it (unlike a Foley who is damaging).
Your ppls thoughts?
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had an off night by foot, but got some terrific contested balls :clapping
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was superb last night
having his best season.
Will finish top 3 in the B+F
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Have to disagree with you there Blaisee, Lids has been ordinary this year and will be lucky to make top 10 on current form.
Thats my opinion anyway.
Had plenty of handballs last night but doesnt use his pace to his advantage in my opinion.
I think he got plenty of cheap touches last night.
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Adam Cooney anyone?
For the past 2-3 years cooney looked ok, but just wasn't consistent. He's now 22-23?? and Brownlow medal favourite. Lids is only 21.
He'll be a ripper.
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Have to disagree with you there Blaisee, Lids has been ordinary this year and will be lucky to make top 10 on current form.
Thats my opinion anyway.
Had plenty of handballs last night but doesnt use his pace to his advantage in my opinion.
I think he got plenty of cheap touches last night.
must have been watching different games tfl
thought he got plenty of hard ball and imposed himself on the contest when required 30 possessions and a clutch goal means you, are very hard to please. Not related to jack are you? :help
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Deledio was ok last night but his night in our top 3 this year
Richo
Angryman
Axle
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deledio was very good last night
some ppl are just never happy and born to whinge
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Have to disagree with you there Blaisee, Lids has been ordinary this year and will be lucky to make top 10 on current form.
Thats my opinion anyway.
Had plenty of handballs last night but doesnt use his pace to his advantage in my opinion.
I think he got plenty of cheap touches last night.
must have been watching different games tfl
thought he got plenty of hard ball and imposed himself on the contest when required 30 possessions and a clutch goal means you, are very hard to please. Not related to jack are you? :help
Here, here. :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Have to disagree with you there Blaisee, Lids has been ordinary this year and will be lucky to make top 10 on current form.
Thats my opinion anyway.
Had plenty of handballs last night but doesnt use his pace to his advantage in my opinion.
I think he got plenty of cheap touches last night.
must have been watching different games tfl
thought he got plenty of hard ball and imposed himself on the contest when required 30 possessions and a clutch goal means you, are very hard to please. Not related to jack are you? :help
Here, here. :thumbsup :thumbsup
Ditto. :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Rapidly on the way to becoming a bonafied star.
Clearly one of our best 3 last night.
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We're well on the way to two gun midfielders. Lids and Foley. Add Cotch in a year or two and if Tambo keeps improving the way he has been we are really going to have a midfield to rival the Westcoast's Judd Kerr Cousins.
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Yes, a very, very good midfield emerging for us. Its not inconceivable that Lids, Foley and Blingers can match the lofty heights of the Weagles Judd, Cousins, Kerr or Geelong's Bartel, Ablett Jr and Corey. Add to that Cotchin, Edwards, Connors, Collins and quite possibly another good young mid from this years draft, as rotations and we have quite potentially an unstoppable midfield unit :pray
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I thought it was his best game last night.
Defensively he still lets a few through by not chasing as hard as he should but that's getting better
Clutch goal in the final qtr was a gem.
in the next few years a mid field where we will rotate for starters: Tambling, Foley, Lids, Cotchin, Edwards, Connors and Collins..... :yep :yep I'll take it
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Lids had a good game but I think he's kicking has been a bit off this year and was in the first half on Saturday night.
Perhaps as has been mentioned on here before (bluey?) he didn't need to bulk up as much as he did over preseason with forward role next to Richo tossed out the window in 3 weeks. Next summer he can trim down to boost his pace and just train with the focus on him being a midfielder.
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The best thing is that he was recruited as a midfielder and he's now having abig influence there.
Putting many of his critics to rest this season.
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in the next few years a mid field where we will rotate for starters: Tambling, Foley, Lids, Cotchin, Edwards, Connors and Collins..... :yep :yep I'll take it
Lacking solid bodies.
Blinga, Edwards, Collins types are all quite slight.
Need a Jackson, Polo or Cogs/Tuck to come good to add abit of grunt.
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Games played:
Deledo - 71
Tambling - 62
Foley - 58
Raines - 53
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Jackson - 40
Polo - 26
White - 25
Edwards - 22
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Games played:
Deledo - 71
Tambling - 62
Foley - 58
Raines - 53
Didn't Terry say that you can tell if a player will make it after about 50 games, maybe some OERites should cut the kids some slack :whistle
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His form has been more than adequate this year and he is further enhancing his growing reputation with some of his form this year. Cut the kid some slack. If we were 7-2 and in the top 4 many of the Lids detractors would be calling him a bona fide superstar and one of the reasons why we would be 7-2. But at 3-5-1 there will be thoughts amongst some supporters who feel he is not contributing. He is doing more than well. :thumbsup
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I am by no means trying to say that he is no good, just dont think he is hurting the opposition as much as he could with his skill and ability.
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I am by no means trying to say that he is no good, just dont think he is hurting the opposition as much as he could with his skill and ability.
That sounds like something jackstar would say. Lol
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I am by no means trying to say that he is no good, just dont think he is hurting the opposition as much as he could with his skill and ability.
How good do you expect a 70 gamer to be the complete package? ::) ::)
He's doing more than his job and it's about time his great form so far this year, the only thing I'd like to see by the end of the year is an average of 3+ tackles a game in the 2nd half of the year. He has it in him. :thumbsup
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Games played:
Deledo - 71
Tambling - 62
Foley - 58
Raines - 53
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Jackson - 40
Polo - 26
White - 25
Edwards - 22
Lids is also the second youngest of that group. Cooney is 2 years older than Lids. Even Griffen is almost year older and they were drafted at the same time. Lids is still not near the player he could be (in that sense I agree with TFL) but he is only just 21 so I'm satisfied with his progress so far.
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6-8 weeks ago Lids was still 20yoa !
:cheers
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Name YOB Debut Games Goals Average
08/career 08/career Disposals 08
Lids 87 2005 09/71 10/50 23.89
Ablett 84 2002 08/133 11/176 27.38
Cooney 85 2004 09/96 14/104 26.11
Griffen 86 2005 09/60 07/23 18.89
Judd 83 2002 09/143 08/146 23.22
Just looking here im happy with where he is at for a kid who is only JUST 21. Maybe he lacks a little consistency but show me any kids that dont.
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Maybe he lacks a little consistency but show me any kids that dont.
The Cotch looks a goer but too early to push his wheelbarrow.
i agree that after Deledio's stunning first year his form has plateaued somewhat.
he's played enough games now to actually taper the steep learning curve and just do what comes naturally like what you do in your junior years.
same goes with tambo although i see him as a totally different player to lids in style and position.
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same goes with tambo although i see him as a totally different player to lids in style and position.
I think Tambo would have a little more improvement than Lids in him. He's only just developing the body he needs for AFL where Lids could lose a bit of bulk now his being played predominantly in the mid field.
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I wish we could ignore their drafting number and 'potential' and judge each player on their current form, comparing them with every other player on our and other teams lists. If we did that Lids and Blinger would compare very well and we would not always be expecting more!
Dare to dream :sleep
Stripes
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I expect more from both of them because they are only kids.
Time will bring further hardness and maturity that will make them even more solid and dangerous than they are now. I am happy with both of their progress and expect no more than they are producing at this time in their careers. I am very happy with the comparisons with their peers.
Even so I do expect them to improve. This will happen, it is nothing they need to do, further experience will improve them. I watch our cubs, not just these two, with growing excitement.
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he will start producing in the next year or two
the likes of Judd, Cooney, Ablett, Bartel, Ling, Harvey, Stevens, Burgoynes, Kerr, Embley, Penny, & many more (too many to list) are all great competitors & your not just going to shove them aside & beat them down without some games, strength & planning behind you.
Also counts on the Ruckmen you got getting the ball to them, this is most important ;D so you cant hurt anyone if the Ruckmen aint winning the ball or tapping it to you ( Hence Brad Ottens ) ;D
You also got to study the opposition ruckman videos & then to top it off you got to have the most important players the blockers in Tuck, Johnson, & Hyde who lay thier bodies on the line every week that lets players like Foley, Deledio, Tambling, White, & Brown to break away from the centre.
So in all, you got to look at the whole thing, of these guys playing games together & getting it right themselves before anyone is going to produce a match winning player
Watch old Eagles replays you see it plain & clear ;D when looking for it instead of following the ball all the times you see the ones who lay the blocks before the ruck contest & are mainly the ones who are first to dive on the ball to block it in if all other fails
Deledio will be playing like Cooney in time to come, remember these players are picking up opponants drilled to stop them every games.
Thier is no easy role being a midfielder in any game :thumbsup
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I wish we could ignore their drafting number and 'potential' and judge each player on their current form, comparing them with every other player on our and other teams lists. If we did that Lids and Blinger would compare very well and we would not always be expecting more!
Yep. If we had picked them up as rookies we would all be very busy peeing in each other's pockets about how good they are.
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Name YOB Debut Games Goals Average
08/career 08/career Disposals 08
Lids 87 2005 09/71 10/50 23.89
Ablett 84 2002 08/133 11/176 27.38
Cooney 85 2004 09/96 14/104 26.11
Griffen 86 2005 09/60 07/23 18.89
Judd 83 2002 09/143 08/146 23.22
Just looking here im happy with where he is at for a kid who is only JUST 21. Maybe he lacks a little consistency but show me any kids that dont.
Yep. Lids output in raw numbers at the same age is decent. In fact better disposal wise.
Cooney at the same age (2006) averaged 19 disposals. At the same AFL experience (2007) 21 disposals.
Ablett at the same age and AFL experience (2005) averaged 18.
Judd at the same age (2004) average 21; at the same experience (2005) 23. Mind you Judd was already Brownlow medallist.
The difference b/w them and Lids at this stage is Lids has rarely taken a game by the scruff of the neck as a goalkicking pack-bursting mid. The advantage they have over Lids though is they were playing in finals sides so others around them shared the workload. Our midfield for the next decade is still in its embryonic stage.
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I wish we could ignore their drafting number and 'potential' and judge each player on their current form, comparing them with every other player on our and other teams lists. If we did that Lids and Blinger would compare very well and we would not always be expecting more!
Yep. If we had picked them up as rookies we would all be very busy peeing in each other's pockets about how good they are.
Very pruductive compent smokey though I prefer to keep my pockets well out of your pee range if I can thanks.
I think it is worth while comparing players, just at mightytigers just did in the post above, at their current level, age and performance rather than being disappointed that they are not superstars already. All young players have plenty of potential and hopefully clubs who picked players with a high draft choice will get great players in the long run but if Foley is any example, it really depends upon the player themselves.
I'm happy with Lids at the moment. He is playing well. If he improves more in the future it will be a bonus.
Stripes
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Our midfield for the next decade is still in its embryonic stage.
Indeed.
- Deledio, Brett 71 21yr 1mth
- Foley, Nathan 58 22yr 8mth
- Cotchin, Trent 2 18yr 1mth
- Tambling, Richard 62 21yr 8mth
You would think that would be the core.
- Edwards, Shane 22 19yr 7mth
- White, Matthew 25 21yr 1mth
Of our best half dozen best young mids only Foley is over 21yoa. Drafting from the rookie list pre-2004 draft.
It'll be intersting to see of the remaining makes it, but age-wise, all have time. Outside the RFC XXII at this stage but should be pushing for spots and also in 22 and under age range.
- Raines, Andrew 53 22yr 2mth
- Jackson, Daniel 40 22yr 1mth
- Polo, Dean 26 21yr 9mth
- Morton, Mitch 18 21yr 3mth
- Meyer, Danny 17 21yr 9mth
- Oakley-Nicholls, Jarrad 7 20yr 3mth
- Connors, Daniel 4 19yr 8mth
- Collard, Clayton (R) 1 19yr 5mth
- Casserly, Travis 0 21yr
- Collins, Andrew 0 19yr 6mth
Players are going to be much better 24 than they are 22. We have a number of players in this age range and by end of 2009 should be inproving at a good rate together. Our spine is still a worry but future midfeild should hold its own.
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A couple of those aren't mids but it does show how young and inexperienced a list we have and we need to be patient. Lids has done well to play 71 out of 75 possible games by 21 y.o.
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:lol :lol Nathan Foley the old bloke at 22yrs & 8mths
:gotigers
I see da light :thumbsup
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:lol :lol Nathan Foley the old bloke at 22yrs & 8mths
:gotigers
I see da light :thumbsup
- Big V
- 2nd B&F last season
- vic captian
Old man @ 22 :cheers
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How did we all rate Lids' game of 32 possies and 2 goals?
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It was slippery and he made a few errors like the rest but he did far more than any other team mate.
B.O.G.
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He was ok, he did have 20 of his 32 touches in the second half when the heat was off the game.
Needs to produce this kind of footy when the heat of the contest is still on.
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Deledio right on the pace
Lyall Johnson | June 7, 2008
IN TALES concerning rites of passage or boys maturing to men, you'll often hear the line, "But there comes a time in every lad's life …" which marks the turning point of the story.
For Brett Deledio, Richmond's 2004 No. 1 draft choice, the line might have a double-barrelled conclusion. For starters, Deledio's tale could probably continue, "… when he gets sick of being judged against others who were selected in the same draft", or equally, "… when he starts to establish himself in his own right and is not judged on the number he was selected at in the draft".
The former came to a head last year when Lance Franklin was emerging and the Hawks had just given the undersized Tigers a touch-up, "Buddy" and Jarryd Roughead sharing nine goals.
The Age columnist Robert Walls criticised the Tigers' draft choices and in the cross-hairs was Deledio (among others) who, he suggested, hadn't developed quickly enough. While Walls was probably correct, he was also premature, given Deledio had only just turned 20, was the youngest player taken in his draft year and effectively up to a year junior in mind and body to his fellow draftees.
Deledio took exception to the comments, perhaps showing his age, and has decided to black-ban The Age as a result. Thus, we won't be hearing from him here.
But what Walls noted about him — that he had not "learnt how to gut-run to shake a tag" — is in fact part of what Deledio has achieved this year, confirming that he has also begun to "establish himself in his own right".
According to Champion Data, Deledio this season has become one of the Tigers' "go-to" players, averaging a career-high and team-high 25 disposals a match. He also leads the team in handballs, inside-50s and score assists and ranks second in long kicks, uncontested possessions and handball-receives.
Also noteworthy is where he is getting his possessions — the 77.3% he gets in the midfield and 13.8% in the forward line show his role is far less defensive than it was a year ago.
"Really consistent" was how coach Terry Wallace described him last week but added that his improvement was still very much a work in progress. His body has developed into a strong midfielder's shape but the next step is to learn to use his pace and power to take on opponents and break open matches.
In many respects, the path ahead involves emulating teammate Nathan Foley, who shot into the elite when he released his pace.
"He's not that dissimilar to Nathan," Wallace said. "There's not a quicker player in the competition and I don't think he necessarily uses that break-out pace to the best advantage he can. I think he plays a really consistent, good game of footy but the next level is for him to use the dynamics he has got, the sheer power in his game.
"He's really got the ability to mark over and above his size (and is) a superior athlete to a lot of blokes going around. Buddy Franklin is that as a key-position player, Brett's a superior athlete to a lot of the midfielders.
"Early in a player's career, as a coach, you drive to games wondering whether he is going to be a seven-and-a-half out of 10 or a five out of 10. He's bringing to the table really even performances now. It's fair to say he hasn't necessarily had those break-out games, but that's the next level."
According to Wallace, that lesson will not be long in being learned, as Deledio, who is completing a coaching course, is, says Wallace, "a leader … who strives and wants to get better".
So should Deledio have taken Walls' opinion the way he has?
"He's his own person in that he is strong enough that if someone says do it a certain way, if he doesn't believe it is the right way, he'll say it. He's more of a leader and if you have got that pride in yourself, you're not that accepting," Wallace said. "I'm not saying he's not accepting. You might listen and take it on board, it doesn't mean you have to like it.
"But I think people sometimes get the wrong idea of him. He's sort of got that metrosexual Browny-type super-confident image but he's quieter than that as a person. And that, being quiet in himself, that's even another level that he can go to in terms of being more confident on-field.
"He's just a good country boy. Should he have been upset with the criticism? Well, he's a very proud kid and very proud of his footy heritage and his Dad and how he played the game and his upbringing in general and footy upbringing. And when you get that stuff shoved down your throat all the time …"
While the legacy of being a No. 1 draft choice is that, more than everyone else, he will be judged on his draft number, Wallace said he hopes that would become irrelevant as Deledio continued to perform well.
"I've always believed that you are judged more year-to-year than player-to-player," he said. "Some of the champions of the game haven't been No. 1 or No. 4, they all come in different sizes or shapes. We're happy with our lot, but would you like to have some of the other lot as well? Absolutely you would, we're all greedy. Otherwise, we're very pleased with his progress."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/deledio-right-on-the-pace/2008/06/06/1212259117518.html?page=fullpage
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Walls = blah, blah, blah :sleep
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Deledio took exception to the comments, perhaps showing his age, and has decided to black-ban The Age as a result. Thus, we won't be hearing from him here.
I wouldn't have thought so. Don't think there is any rule that says you have to talk to a newspaper. If the newspaper writes crap then why should a player talk to them. The Age should get over themselves.
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The implication from this piece is that Brett was basically having a sook, which is obviously BS. He's a smart kid and this whole Buddy comparison thing is BS and Lids would know that. Walls used Buddy (a freak of a footballer) as a yardstick to deningrate a bloke who has done a lot right in his short career, and Walls was off the mark with his critique of Lids' game anyway. Criticism in the form of a comparison to Buddy is rubbish - no wonder he doesn't want a bar of these twits :rollin
LMAO at Terry throwing in his two bob's worth though, can't get Lids to talk just give Tezza a call :lol
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I know that people will disagree but Deledio needs to think about his footy a little bit. Everyone is happy hes getting lots of the footy, thats great, but if hes not careful his footy will start to get a touch of the Joel Bowdens. Needs a rocket in my opinion.
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I have said this for the last 4 weeks.
Who cares how much footy he gets, its what he does with it.
You are spot on Ramps, he is playing just like Bowden does. Gathering loose ball across half back and doing jack poo with it.
Plough was critical of Lids and others on MMM tonight for their overuse of handball.
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Played today like someone who had been reading his own publicity in the above article. Mind you most of the side didn't have their brain in gear after half time.
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I know that people will disagree but Deledio needs to think about his footy a little bit. Everyone is happy hes getting lots of the footy, thats great, but if hes not careful his footy will start to get a touch of the Joel Bowdens. Needs a rocket in my opinion.
Also noteworthy is where he is getting his possessions — the 77.3% he gets in the midfield and 13.8% in the forward line
Id be intersted in seeing where RFC contested touches this year. I would of thought he ranked fairly high.
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I know that people will disagree but Deledio needs to think about his footy a little bit. Everyone is happy hes getting lots of the footy, thats great, but if hes not careful his footy will start to get a touch of the Joel Bowdens. Needs a rocket in my opinion.
I was discussing this with a mate. 32 touches last week and something similar this week. Funny thing I did not realise he had this many touches which means he is getting to many cheap kicks that do not have a great impact and if this characteristic starts creeping into his game due to the cancerous Bowden Brown culture down there then he will be an absolute waste. Time to put a rocket up his golo and get him on the straight and narrow again.
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Well done Lids. Best game he's played by a mile before going off with that corky/pinched nerve in that shoulder. Won the ball in the centre, got plenty of it in the midfield and most importantly was damaging with nearly every possession and set up plenty of goals. The reason we blew the game open in the 2nd quarter.
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I agree MT, he had a cracker! He even did his signature blast up the middle on a couple of occasions. :thumbsup
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He even did his signature blast up the middle on a couple of occasions. :thumbsup
:thumbsup
I thought Lids was trying to do a Michael Mitchell goal when he got to the centre but he unselfishly gave it off.
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Sensational effort yesterday
Ran out of gas by the last qtr though
I reckon some of our mids need to be SELFISH sometimes and have the shot at goal.
And yes that is shot at goal as oppsed to shot on goal :chuck
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Just downloaded Sunday's game. Does any player in the league kick as well to a leading player when running at absolute full tilt? I reckon it's Lids' best attribute, his ability to be sprinting and still deliver a perfect pass. The kick to Brown early in the second quarter was perfect. He seems to do it pretty regularly. Makes it all the more frustrating when he handballs too much.
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Just downloaded Sunday's game. Does any player in the league kick as well to a leading player when running at absolute full tilt? I reckon it's Lids' best attribute, his ability to be sprinting and still deliver a perfect pass. The kick to Brown early in the second quarter was perfect. He seems to do it pretty regularly. Makes it all the more frustrating when he handballs too much.
Was that the one that didn't leave his foot that great but still went 50m and hit the leading target perfectly? You know you're in form when even your dodgy kicks don't miss the mark :thumbsup.
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The pressure of one
Mike Sheahan | June 28, 2008
SEVERAL pertinent points seem to be ignored in the never-ending debate about what clubs would do with a second crack at the 2004 draft.
It's a given all 16 would take "Buddy" Franklin at No. 1, yet Franklin is a unique talent who skews the debate.
That aside, here are three facts that endorse Richmond's decision to take Brett Deledio No. 1.
He was drafted at the tender age of 17 years and six months, he won the AFL Rising Star Award in his first year, and he has played the most games of the crop of 2004.
Deledio, who turned 21 in April, has played 75 of a possible 79 matches in four seasons at Punt Rd.
Hawthorn trio Jordan Lewis (72), Jarryd Roughead (71) and Franklin (69) are next, followed by Collingwood's Travis Cloke (67).
It is good company. While Deledio is the only one of that lot yet to play finals, there is a school of thought that says it is just as tough to get a kick in a poor team as it is to win a place in a good team.
For the record, Franklin polled one vote from the Rising Star's nine-man selection panel in 2005.
So is there more upside or downside to the status of No. 1 draftee?
"There's a lot of upside," Deledio says. "It was a huge honour for me; the downside is the expectation that comes with it.
"There's definitely downside.
"Everyone expects you to come out like Juddy (Chris Judd) and dominate from game one.
"For most other people, that's not possible.
"You still hear people talking about Travis Johnstone as the No. 1 (1997). Even now he's at Brisbane and he's won a best-and-fairest (at Melbourne).
"Sometimes people say 'whoever-it-is is the No. 1 draft pick, why isn't he doing this or that?' They don't look into what they're saying before they say it, they don't see behind the scenes, they just go on face value."
Deledio agrees youngsters generally are marked hard.
"I think the guys that go into a poorer side, like Marc Murphy (2006) did, are. Midfielders that go into a poorer side come in and are expected to dominate.
"They get quite a lot of respect (read attention) from opposition clubs.
"Selly (Joel Selwood), for example, down at Geelong was able to slot straight into their midfield without all the attention because of all their good players.
" 'Blinga' (Richard Tambling), he plays a good game and the next week, because he's one of our better midfielders, he gets sat on and he's still learning the game."
As for his own form, statistically, it's his best season.
"I think I've been pretty consistent. I think I'm still learning the game in terms of how hard you have to work through the midfield.
"In my junior days, you didn't have to worry about picking up blokes; you just ran round.
"You can't do that these days. It comes up in game review. That's the worst thing, I reckon, being embarrassed in front of your teammates if you haven't manned up.
"That's been something I've had to work on and am continuing to work on.
"My first year was good because I was allowed to run around (as a half-forward, forward pocket) and no one took a lot of notice of me.
"The second year, I got a little bit more respect and Mark Coughlan, our best midfielder then, didn't play.
"Third year (2007), it was my best finish in the best-and-fairest (fifth) and I played forward for the last half."
Coach Terry Wallace suggested in a recent newspaper interview that Deledio had more to offer.
"Really consistent," Wallace said, yet Deledio is a player with scorching pace, an ability to carry the ball, and a booming kick.
At 188.5cm and 88kg, and with his dash, he, apart from a rampaging Richo, is the Richmond player who would most worry opposition coaches.
Does he have another, yet unused, gear?
"I don't think I've played my best footy yet. Obviously, I can still kick more goals and lay more tackles and all that sort of stuff.
"(But) I have more pride in setting blokes up than kicking the goals myself," reflected by his ranking for goal assists.
It's not that he doesn't enjoy kick-
ing them himself. "I think it's more about finding yourself in the right spot. Nathan Brown always finds himself in the right spot to get on the end of it. Maybe I need to do some more work with him on where he runs."
Surging forward, the crowd roaring, teammates and opponents running everywhere, he says, is "good fun".
He rates his five goals against Collingwood in Round 19 last year as a career highlight, yet says his most memorable game is Richmond's four-point win over Hawthorn in Round 21, 2005.
In a performance that probably sealed his Rising Star win, Deledio had 26 disposals, his last kick a bomb to the goalsquare that led to the winning goal.
"Kicking five goals against Collingwood was a lot of fun because we beat them . . . the most memorable game was probably kicking the ball to Jay Schulz that led to the winning goal in Mark Graham's last game."
Wallace probably would have a different choice altogether.
In Richmond's humiliating loss to Sydney this year, Deledio racked up 32 possessions on Paul Bevan, and kicked two goals. It was a mature performance from a youngster.
After publicly declaring him "the next big thing" before the season, I have watched him closely.
He had a stinker against Carlton first up, despite two goals.
He wore his hair in the style and shade of the lead singer of any backstreet 1970s punk rock band, and looked as comfortable as a set forward as a kid plucked from the cheer squad.
Yet he's probably top three in the Tigers' best-and-fairest after 13 rounds and looks like he belongs, and believes he does.
This afternoon, he will be on the big stage - Richmond versus Carlton, at the 'G in the only game in town.
"Life's good at the moment; yeah, life is good," he says.
Now he understands why he picked football ahead of an equally promising career in cricket.
"I think footy was always the one that I enjoyed the most, but I still love cricket. Sometimes when you have a bad one, you think, 'Geez, why didn't I play cricket?'
It's a question he is asking himself less and less.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23933605-19742,00.html
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A touch of Carlton in Deledio bloodline
Mike Sheahan | June 28, 2008
WAYNE Deledio is listed in the Encyclopedia of AFL Footballers, but he only just qualified.
In two seasons with the Blues (1975-76), he played at senior level once - against Fitzroy in 1975. Sort of.
He spent the bulk of the afternoon on the bench, came on for the last few minutes, touched the ball once yet didn't actually record a disposal.
"I like to use the excuse that Geoff Southby was there at the time, which made it pretty tough for a full-back, but I don't think I was good enough," he said this week.
Thirty years on, he is Brett Deledio's father, mentor, confidant and critic.
Father and son review and analyse each of the 21-year-old's games for 60-90 minutes, addressing apparent weaknesses, reinforcing basic rules.
"After the first game this year, I felt like, 'Geez, where am I going here'?" Deledio Jr said this week.
"I sat down with Dad and we had a lengthy chat about lots of different things.
"I think that chat turned it around for me.
"He wrote down some things he wanted me to work on and I still read them before every game. Nine points - things like, around stoppages, stay on your toes; don't be predictable and mechanical; don't just jog all the time, use your pace; that sort of stuff.
"It definitely helps. At stoppages, I'm always thinking, 'Gotta keep moving'."
Wayne Deledio says: "Did he tell you that, did he?"
"After that first game (this year), he said, 'What have I got to do?' and we just went through a few things.
"The things 'Plough' (coach Terry Wallace) and the other coaches would talk to him about. Just a few little things.
"I think he's developing OK. I think kids are judged too early these days. Chris Judd caused that, not his fault, of course.
"I was bored the other Sunday afternoon and did a bit of research. There are lots of blokes that are now household names and you look at their first four years, and some of them really struggled."
Deledio Sr says he is just like any father of a young footballer.
Asked if he pushed too hard, he said: "I try to be very honest with him.
"You're not doing a kid any favours just pumping up his tyres."
Deledio Jr speaks with genuine fondness for his father, but says he hasn't bothered sugar-coating his message.
"We get on super. Couldn't speak more highly of Dad. He's helped me so much, coached me through my junior days.
"After every game, we talk for an hour, hour-and-a-half, and he tells me what I did wrong, what I did right.
"Usually, the wrong would outweigh the right," and he laughs warmly.
"It was harsh at times. I'd say, 'Is this bloke ever going to lay off me?' but it's obviously worked.
"Even now, straight after the game, I'm on the phone to him and having a chat. See what he thinks."
Footnote: Wayne and Judy Deledio won't see Brett play his biggest game today.
They will be watching their other children, Matt, 19, and Sheridan, 16, in their sporting pursuits - Matt with Kyabram against Seymour in the Goulburn Valley league, Sheridan playing netball for Tatura.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23933606-19742,00.html
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Lids is really turning into the elite player we all hoped for when he was drafted.
Has anyone got a link to footage of the speccie he took yesterday? What a great mark :clapping :bow.
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and the supporters are still waiting for the club to announce that theyve signed the young man to a long term contract. i said this at the start of this year, richmond must sign deledio to a long term contract and the sooner it happens the better.
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Clubs are going to come for him big time
sign him you richmond muppets and now.
3/4 year deal and open cheque book
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I'm not too concerned at this stage. It would be a big call for Lids to take off after 4 years. Particularly given the fact it looks like we are finally starting to build a bit of momentum. Salary cap would not be an issue.
I'm sure he will stick around ;)
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Is he out of contract this year or next?
I thought he signed a 3 year deal at the end of his first 2 years.
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Is he out of contract this year or next?
I thought he signed a 3 year deal at the end of his first 2 years.
I thought next year
I was at a function - cannot remember which function :wallywink (a player club function I think) and I am sure they said he was signed, remember them saying when asked about the Gold Coast that all the young blokes are signed and they listed Foley, Tambling, Lids, Patto and some others
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Lids is contracted until 2009.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=5875.msg73002#msg73002
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I don't see what the worry is then
He'll be signed up again early next year
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Fast forward Deledio delivers in spearhead role
By Mark Hayes
Herald-Sun Monday 21 July 2008, Page 050
WHEN Brett Deledio hurt his knee against West Coast eight days ago, full-backs around the league would barely have batted an eyelid.
But one look at the tape of Richmond's four-point win against Essendon on Saturday and they will be more than a little nervous.
Deledio admitted after the game he had "chipped a little piece of cartilage off the inside'' of his knee, an injury that will require constant maintenance to get him through a season still very much alive for the Tigers.
That's likely to include more time as spearhead -- a role he played to match-winning effect on Saturday, including taking a pack mark of which a certain Tigers' No. 12 would have been proud.
"I always played full-forward when I was a kid, so I feel I know what I'm doing a little bit, but it's something you can definitely change up when you're not getting a kick up the field,'' Deledio said.
Best afield, teammate Nathan Foley said Deledio's training ethic set him apart.
"He works extremely hard . . . throughout the game he's consistently dangerous, his running ability is second to none and his defensive pressure is great, too,'' Foley said.
Richmond looked to be on top at halftime, but six goals to one in the third term gave the Bombers the lead at the final change.
The Tigers responded, primarily through sharpshooter Nathan Brown, to kick clear again midway through the final term.
Had the Bombers converted a swag of late chances, the result would have been different.
The Tigers, though, have made a habit lately of standing firm and Joel Bowden came off the bench in the closing two minutes -- and knowing how much time was left -- twice rushed behinds from kickouts.
"We're still in the hunt to make finals -- a win's a win and we're pumped with it,'' Deledio said.
"Everything went right for Essendon in that third quarter, but I had confidence that we'd be able to run it out.
"We've done that really well over the last few games -- our strength and conditioning coaches have handled us really well throughout the year and we're super fit -- it's just a matter of us keeping the mindset right and making sure we work through the whole four quarters.''
Deledio only played after passing a fitness test on Saturday morning and said he would need to plan his workload for the rest of the season to avoid missing games.
"If I run two days in a row it'll flare up and it just gets really painful,'' he said of the knee injury that at first appeared extremely serious at Subiaco.
"It's just going to be a management thing . . . week to week. I won't have to have surgery now, but I might have to have an arthroscope after the season ends.''
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Deledio admitted after the game he had "chipped a little piece of cartilage off the inside'' of his knee, an injury that will require constant maintenance to get him through a season still very much alive for the Tigers.
"If I run two days in a row it'll flare up and it just gets really painful,'' he said of the knee injury that at first appeared extremely serious at Subiaco.
"It's just going to be a management thing . . . week to week. I won't have to have surgery now, but I might have to have an arthroscope after the season ends.''
If we lose the next couple, send him in for surgery early.
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Does anyone know how long hed be out for if he went in for surgery sooner rather than later?
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They will manage it with anti-inflammatory painkilling injections & keep a eye on it for swelling & movement
Depends on the size of the fragment & shape. l dont think he would have surgery & miss any games.
many players play on with bone chips.
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Does anyone know how long hed be out for if he went in for surgery sooner rather than later?
Up to 4-6 weeks depending on what's wrong.
http://www.hipandknee.com.au/kneearthroscopy.html
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Does anyone know how long hed be out for if he went in for surgery sooner rather than later?
Up to 4-6 weeks depending on what's wrong.
http://www.hipandknee.com.au/kneearthroscopy.html
lmao @ provision of the link by MT :clapping
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Lids showing off his guns
(http://www.gspimages.com.au/images/thumbs/main/155061.jpg)
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Beast. :cheers
Only just turned 21.
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Impressive ;)
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Lids showing off his guns
(http://www.gspimages.com.au/images/thumbs/main/155061.jpg)
Look's like they're doing the Tango to me.
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Looks an absolute beat nowadays.
How good was his first half against the Bombers. Absolutely slaughtered them and set up the win.
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Lids showing off his guns
(http://www.gspimages.com.au/images/thumbs/main/155061.jpg)
His arm looks like a condom filled with walnuts!
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Lids is just gunning it at the moment :clapping. Must be a certainty for top 3 in our B&F this year and moving into next captain contention along with Axel.
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Hmm - wonder how good are his abs. Love a good six pack.
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The rise and rise of Brett Deledio
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Mon 18 August, 2008
Talented young Tiger midfielder Brett Deledio may well be rewarded for his excellent consistency throughout the 2008 season with the coveted Jack Dyer Medal.
The No. 1 pick in the 2004 National Draft clearly has taken his game to another level this year, after winning the AFL’s Rising Star award in his 2005 debut season and finishing fifth in Richmond’s Best and Fairest count in 2007.
Statistics alone highlight Deledio’s reliability in season ’08 . . . He’s played all 20 games and is averaging 24.5 disposals per match, 6.8 marks per match and 4.2 inside-50 entries per match.
Deledio has racked up 25 or more disposals 12 times this season, he’s kicked 22 goals, and also has 16 goal assists to his credit.
He is ranked 12th in the competition for total disposals, 18th for total marks, and 19th for total inside-50 entries.
Not bad for a player who’s just 21 years and four months old, with less than 100 games experience at the game’s highest level (he’s played 82 games out of a possible 86 up to the end of Round 20, 2008).
Given the impact Deledio has made on such a consistent basis during the season, he must be rated one of the leading chances for the 2008 Jack Dyer Medal, along with the likes of Matthew Richardson and Shane Tuck.
‘Lids’ again played a major role for the Tigers in their stunning upset victory over second-placed Hawthorn at the MCG last Sunday, gathering 29 possessions (12 kicks, 17 handballs), taking 10 marks, laying five tackles, and kicking a classy, vital, inspirational goal.
Below is a brief snapshot of Brett Deledio’s development since his senior league debut in ’05 . . .
2005 15.3 disposals per match, 3.9 marks per match, 14 goals
2006 18.8 disposals per match, 6.5 marks per match, 5 goals
2007 18.4 disposals per match, 5.4 marks per match, 21 goals
2008 (after Round 20)
24.5 disposals per match, 6.8 marks per match, 22 goals
http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=65754
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Lids captain 2009 make it happen now.
sugar goodbye and shut the door on your way out. useless footballer.
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Lids should be our next captain. No complaints about that. :thumbsup
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Lids is certainly putting his hand up to be our next captain. He's looked comfortable against the quality opposition of the past month. Even in our losses when the team struggled. 2008 has been his breakout year and shown why he was a #1 pick.
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Definitely needs to be given the captaincy, make it for 2009 too
Sugar can retire
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He's gunna have 100 AFL games when he's 22 years of age. :cheers
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http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/deledio-thrives-on-tough-love/2008/08/22/1219262532424.html
Its a great read from Caroline Wilson! (for once)
Lids is really coming along beautifully!
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Just give the guy the captaincy
He is ready and a long term option, he obviously has respect for Kane Johnson so having Sugar around for Lids first year as captain he would be able to assist in developing his leadership
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Just give the guy the captaincy
He is ready and a long term option, he obviously has respect for Kane Johnson so having Sugar around for Lids first year as captain he would be able to assist in developing his leadership
I right with yopu on this one. But I would use Richo as his assistant. And delist Sugar.
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I think Johnson should retire as well, but seeing as he's not then just have to deal with it
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Lids finished off his breakout year with a bang today. Just showed again how versatile he is and that run down tackle in the 3rd quarter was brilliant.
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I think it would be too much of a burden for him at this stage giving him the Captaincy. Vice Captain yes but I want him to continue building on this year's form in 2009 and beyond. Anything that could risk that should be avoided.
Stripes
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Deledio's honour can't mask finals letdown
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
12:37 PM Thu 04 September, 2008
RICHMOND forward Brett Deledio says it's an honour to be named in the All-Australian squad.
The 20-year-old has been named in the initial 40 from which the final 22 will be selected after a season that saw him ranked inside the AFL's top-20 in marks, handballs, disposals, inside-50s, and goal assists.
Deledio said he was fairly happy with his season.
"What can you say about it? I'm just honoured, really," he told richmondfc.com.au about his nomination.
"To be honest, I hadn't really thought about it – they're the sort of things that just come along, so I hadn't given it too much thought.
"My season wasn't too bad – there were a couple of down games, but I thought it was pretty consistent throughout the year."
But he was far more effusive when it came to talking about the progress the team had made through the season.
"I think it's been a huge step forward, what we've been able to achieve this year.
"Coming from three-and-a-half wins last year to 11-and-a-half this year ... a couple of things go our way, and we should be playing finals, sitting up there nearly with the double-chance if we won a couple of those games that we should have.
"But what can you say? In the end, I don't think it's such a bad thing that we didn't make it, because it'll make us hungrier to make it next year, and we won't just rest on our laurels.
"We'll strive to do bigger and better things next year."
As a result, frustration is the word for the week – maybe the month – as finals action fires up, and Deledio is forced to watch it all happen around him.
"It is disappointing – the body's still feeling fine so you want to be still playing, that's why you play the game, really.
"But like I said, it's a good and a bad thing, in a way."
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=67046
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Slim Pickens for Tiger tagged to point of fury
Jay Clark | June 07, 2009
BRETT Deledio looked ready to explode as Liam Picken shoved and bumped him on the edge of the centre square throughout Friday night.
For much of the game, Picken delivered short, sharp forearm jolts - not enough to hurt or injure, but definitely enough to infuriate - and knocked one of the game's top playmakers off balance.
Deledio maintained control, but he was clearly frustrated with a year-long low of 13 possessions, in the Dogs' resounding 68-point win over Richmond at Etihad Stadium.
It was the second time this season Picken claimed Deledio's scalp and more proof the underrated Dog is ready to be unleashed at the game's elite ball-winners.
Drafted from VFL club Williamstown last year, Picken, 22, denied he went out to deliberately "niggle" Deledio.
"I don't really notice it during the game. I just try to concentrate on the match. I don't worry about the niggle of games too much," he said.
"It happens in games, and opponents give it back to you. And that's fair enough.
"All the boys help me out during the game, which is great for me. I just want to keep playing my role so I can stay in the team, and hopefully we can get better.
"The ball bounced my way. It was just good to shut down whoever I had to."
A week after Deledio was best afield against Fremantle, he showed how wide is the gap between some Richmond players' best and worst form.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25597234-19742,00.html
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pass deledio a box of kleenex and his mammas bussom
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tigertime ----- wouldn't know any thing about footy if it was staring him in the face . Even as a poster he is an imposter
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Ive always wondered no one in our club of the players has the ability to run through afew of these pricks ... you dont let one of your top 2 players get tagged out completely ... get someone to nail picken ...the prick. We need an enforcer or several.
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if body language means anything he does not want to play for the RFC.
I hope im wrong but we are half way through the season and still no contract. If i was a betting man id say he wants out.
Should have been made captain not that pretender Newman.
Lose him or Cotch and we are gawnnnnnnnnnn
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if body language means anything he does not want to play for the RFC.
I hope im wrong but we are half way through the season and still no contract. If i was a betting man id say he wants out.
Should have been made captain not that pretender Newman.
Lose him or Cotch and we are gawnnnnnnnnnn
This is starting to get to become an issue. We could have a real issue. Daniel could be right :'(
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Will he stay, will he go, does he see himself being successful at Richmond ... people are starting to talk about his future and it may not necessarily be at our club if the rumours are correct that his management are looking at all options.
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Deledio
Plays like a millionaire.
Needs to go back to the slums for a month to test his mettle and to see if he really wants to play footy with the Tigers.
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can MT or WP please merge this poll if possible into the other thread :cheers
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Deledio
Plays like a millionaire.
Needs to go back to the slums for a month to test his mettle and to see if he really wants to play footy with the Tigers.
been sayingthis for 3 years now, terry i believe is the fault. wanna see how deledio plays now, but if in 2 weeks he cannot shake a tag, trade him. he is soft in the mind and easlly beaten when tagged, he becomes paralysed and cant even use his pace to shake a tagger , that too me suggests he is scared and will not work hard
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Why the hell would you want to trade or get rid of a number 1 - 22 year old draft pick?? Stop talking crap, we need to get rid of Deledio as much as we need Geisham back at the helm.. ::)
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I once heard the Murray Bushrangers (TAC CUP) called PUMPKINS.
Maybe Lids needs to prove to us all that his is not soft on the inside and is tough enough to play SLUMDOG footy.
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his teammates also need to take responsibility- havent seen any of his teammates ever put an opposition tagger out of business, Picken should have been targetted by our other players with some physical stuff ... alas that never happens so our best players get tagged out and get no help.
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Its situations like that that make RFC a laughing stock. The players dont stick up for their team mates enough. Remember its not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog. Someone like Hislop (if in the team) should be made aware of it and reverse the tag by placing the other player on his ass a few times. Jackson, McGuane and to a lesser degree Moore all like that sort of thing and should play for their team mates.
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who the hell are you ekto scumbag shut your mouth you gutless trewp stop denigrating our players ----gutless swine-- you to tigertime gutless numnut
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Let's keep the personal swipes at other posters out of it shall we ::). Back to the topic!
his teammates also need to take responsibility- havent seen any of his teammates ever put an opposition tagger out of business, Picken should have been targetted by our other players with some physical stuff ... alas that never happens so our best players get tagged out and get no help.
Its situations like that that make RFC a laughing stock. The players dont stick up for their team mates enough. Remember its not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog. Someone like Hislop (if in the team) should be made aware of it and reverse the tag by placing the other player on his ass a few times. Jackson, McGuane and to a lesser degree Moore all like that sort of thing and should play for their team mates.
Spot on both Ramps and Jacosh. Compare us to how the Geelong players protect Ablett by shepherding, blocking and bumping. We just don't protect each other out there. Our team skills are deplorable and the worst in the league. Having said that Lids did himself no favours on Friday night paying little respect to Picken defensively in the 3rd quarter. He got himself caught between how he wanted to play and how he needed to play. Not sure why Terry didn't move Lids up forward at the start of the 3rd quarter instead of into defence. That move played into the Doggies hands. Lids showed late in the game that Picken is no defender and didn't have the height to go with him.
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Spot on both Ramps and Jacosh. Compare us to how the Geelong players protect Ablett by shepherding, blocking and bumping. We just don't protect each other out there.
Exactly
And then if they arenot protecting, shepherding or blocking for Ablett Jnr they are doing it for Bartel etc
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but it's fine to have personal swipes at players, that doesn't make sense
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but it's fine to have personal swipes at players, that doesn't make sense
It's a RFC forum so naturally our players will be discussed and different posters will have varying positive and negative opinions on how they are performing on the field. As long as posts are within the site's guidelines then people are free to give their opinion on the topic and agree/disagree with others. It's just an opinion so it doesn't mean it's right. Lids had a shocker on Friday night but IMHO he's the least of our concerns. One of the too few classy players we have which is why he is tagged despite others in our side getting a heap of possessions but aren't that damaging to the opposition. Opposition coach's aren't stupid and know the couple of Tigers who need to be shutdown to easily make us ineffective and not a threat.
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jackson is our only player who does shephard
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jackson is our only player who does shephard
andy collins is pretty good at it
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But he needs to beef up a bit.
McGuane has a bit of mongrel too.
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why wasnt Deledio put up forward after struggling in the first quarter? He may have been able to kick a goal for us after half time atleast.
I wouldnt be suprised if he gets sick of the lack of support at this club and looks to GC.
I havent seen a real shepherd at this club since Scott Turner's earth-shattering bump on Gary O'Donnell just before half-time of the 1995 Richmond v Essendon semi-final. This was the catalyst for turning a five-goal deficit into a remarkable 13-point victory.
:gotigers
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why wasnt Deledio put up forward after struggling in the first quarter? He may have been able to kick a goal for us after half time atleast.......
From what I've read so far, Jade Rawlings' instructions are to let players settle in spots.
I think I saw Kelvin Moore up forward against the Dogs.... :banghead
We might see Deledio in the middle for the rest of the year.
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who the hell are you ekto scumbag shut your mouth you gutless trewp stop denigrating our players ----gutless swine-- you to tigertime gutless numnut
we are entitled to have our opinions based on what we observe
if you dont like it, go stuff urself
and b4 you call ppl gutless swines, make sure you know who they are and be prepared to meet and say it face to face
you go back and hold deledios hand and tell him he is ok, and failing to shake tags is ok , and while u r at it, dontforget the lube
dogged is a term that also means giving up, pulling out of a contest, seems u may just be deledio
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who the hell are you ekto scumbag shut your mouth you gutless trewp stop denigrating our players ----gutless swine-- you to tigertime gutless numnut
we are entitled to have our opinions based on what we observe
if you dont like it, go eff urself
and b4 you call ppl gutless swines, make sure you know who they are and be prepared to meet and say it face to face
you go back and hold deledios hand and tell him he is ok, and failing to shake tags is ok , and while u r at it, dontforget the lube
dogged is a term that also means giving up, pulling out of a contest, seems u may just be deledio
I dont even know why you bother TT.
Some people just think its okay to finish out of the finals and have players as good as deledio to think its okay not to work harder.
The kid needs a kick up the arse, even a blind man can see that. He needs a rocket eade to single him out in the huddle. He doesn't need taps on the back saying its okay you will get the pill next time.
We are the softest team in the league. Tackles, Shepherds, blocks and people wonder why we are last all the time.
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Who was it that said Richmond was like an egg, crack the shell and its all mush inside?
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Deledio is a moron.
Can run and kick but his intelligence is of a low level and this effects his on-field thinking under pressure.
He halso has a weak heart.
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we are entitled to have our opinions based on what we observe
if you dont like it, go eff urself
You're argument was fine until the 2nd sentence
Enough with the personal insults and stick to the topic
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Who was it that said Richmond was like an egg, crack the shell and its all mush inside?
lethal.......
hahaha 4 time premiership coach...How true he is
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we are entitled to have our opinions based on what we observe
if you dont like it, go eff urself
You're argument was fine until the 2nd sentence
Enough with the personal insults and stick to the topic
sorry wp
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we are entitled to have our opinions based on what we observe
if you dont like it, go eff urself
You're argument was fine until the 2nd sentence
Enough with the personal insults and stick to the topic
sorry wp
suck :lol
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With half a season left and no finals this year I say stick him in the middle and keep him there.
Let him work on shaking the tag and doing the hard stuff.
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Deledio is a moron.
Can run and kick but his intelligence is of a low level and this effects his on-field thinking under pressure.
He halso has a weak heart.
I'll happily use this example for calling the kettle black
Deledio is a moron, coming from someone who can't even put a sentence together. Go and lite up another bong drug addict,
As for Deledio's game it was one of his weakest, Picken is an emerging tagger but anyone who ahs played the game knows tagging someone is one of the easiest jobs in the AFL, doens't require skill at all just the patience to be able to stick with it all game and to have the engine to do it. Picken has a decent engine and obviously is more than happy to tag a player and get a game every week in doing so. Good Luck to him
Brett has shown that he is struggling with the tag in the modern game there is nothing legally you can do to shake a decent tag, its up to the group whether it be the midfield group or a group of 2-3 that have to sacrifice some of there game to allow Deledio free run.
Jacko has enough to worry about tagging the opposition best player along with getting some of the ball and dealing with some sniping off the ball from the opposition it shouldn't be put on him. Shane Tuck and Nathan Foley have to look outside the square of football and stop focusing soley on the ball and focus on the stoppage as a hole. To much emphasis is on Foley to get 30+ possession, he's a solid body and should look to make his presence felt. Foley and Tuck along with Jackson are our best tacklers but I think I'd rather see a 5-10 less possession game sacrificed for double amount of tackles. I can't remember seeing a Tiger tackling above 6 times in a game.
For mine a few too many ego's a running around that play selfish football, Brad Ebert last week had under 20 possessions but laid about 10 tackles. For mine that is team football.
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Tell him he has to throw up on the field at least once per game.
:lol
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I'll happily meet you tigertime just name the place and time
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I'll happily meet you tigertime just name the place and time
:lol Good luck with that.
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wonder how his signature is going, very slow apparently. :banghead
whats he worth?
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Tell him he has to throw up on the field at least once per game.
:lol
Gut busting isn't something RFC players are known for. Truth in jest '65.
Brett has shown that he is struggling with the tag in the modern game there is nothing legally you can do to shake a decent tag, its up to the group whether it be the midfield group or a group of 2-3 that have to sacrifice some of there game to allow Deledio free run.
Stick Lids in the middle at the first bounce next time and have someone run off the square straight for Picken and hip and shoulder him legally (below the shoulders and into the ribs). That's still legal. Lockyer did it to Aaron Davey on Monday. Wind Picken or any tagger a few times and they won't last too long.
For mine a few too many ego's a running around that play selfish football, Brad Ebert last week had under 20 possessions but laid about 10 tackles. For mine that is team football.
Agree Popelord. How you perform off the ball is just as important now as when you have it. Until tackling, shepherding, blocking and doing other 1%ers becomes second nature then we'll never improve as a team and play as a single unit. Any player who fails to do these team things should be dragged to enforce the team aspects of the game and if they still don't get it then it's back to Coburg and bye bye at the end of the year.
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Tell him he has to throw up on the field at least once per game.
:lol
Gut busting isn't something RFC players are known for. Truth in jest '65.
Even though we have only seen a little bit of Cuz in the Y&B that is one thing that stands out isn't it, against the Bulldogs it was quiet incredible I thought how far and fast he was running, and at 30 years old, amazing.
The only other player coming close in this regard is Jacko.
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rumours aside ... this could become a real issue if Deledios last 2 weeks is a reflection of what he is thinking.
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Let the little sissy go.
stuffen spoilt brat.
We will be compensated well for him,if not keep him on the list and burn him.
No room for surly little girls.
FHO!
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rumours aside ... this could become a real issue if Deledios last 2 weeks is a reflection of what he is thinking.
Rumours ??? What rumours ??? ;D
I heard a rumour last night :rollin
BTW I thought his first qtr wasn't too bad
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I'm still trying to work out where his game was so bad last night. Dream team and supercoach don't suggest it was a bad game , his stats don't suggest it was a bad game ,alot of the media had him in the best, he was tagged all night. Why is that druggo poster bagging him , perhaps he watched a different game
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I'm still trying to work out where his game was so bad last night. Dream team and supercoach don't suggest it was a bad game , his stats don't suggest it was a bad game ,alot of the media had him in the best, he was tagged all night. Why is that druggo poster bagging him , perhaps he watched a different game
Jackstar has not been bagging him.
:lol
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I'm still trying to work out where his game was so bad last night. Dream team and supercoach don't suggest it was a bad game , his stats don't suggest it was a bad game ,alot of the media had him in the best, he was tagged all night. Why is that druggo poster bagging him , perhaps he watched a different game
doogged: I thought he was much better this week, than last week.
I actually liked the idea that they moved him forward a couple of times rather than rotating him off the bench, with his strong marking his can be a potent weapon up forward
Just wish he'd re-sign :thumbsup
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I'm still trying to work out where his game was so bad last night. Dream team and supercoach don't suggest it was a bad game , his stats don't suggest it was a bad game ,alot of the media had him in the best, he was tagged all night. Why is that druggo poster bagging him , perhaps he watched a different game
Jackstar has not been bagging him.
:lol
Have never bagged him, Reckon he had a go last night, took a great contested mark in front of me. Looked good last night
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I'm still trying to work out where his game was so bad last night. Dream team and supercoach don't suggest it was a bad game , his stats don't suggest it was a bad game ,alot of the media had him in the best, he was tagged all night. Why is that druggo poster bagging him , perhaps he watched a different game
Jackstar has not been bagging him.
:lol
Have never bagged him, Reckon he had a go last night, took a great contested mark in front of me. Looked good last night
Jack
Work with me.
He was talking about OX, I was making a joke.
:thumbsup
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I'm still trying to work out where his game was so bad last night. Dream team and supercoach don't suggest it was a bad game , his stats don't suggest it was a bad game ,alot of the media had him in the best, he was tagged all night. Why is that druggo poster bagging him , perhaps he watched a different game
Missed a goal from 25m out set shot
I neally cried :-\
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I'm still trying to work out where his game was so bad last night. Dream team and supercoach don't suggest it was a bad game , his stats don't suggest it was a bad game ,alot of the media had him in the best, he was tagged all night. Why is that druggo poster bagging him , perhaps he watched a different game
Missed a goal from 25m out set shot
I neally cried :-\
He'd find it easier to kick straight at goal if he ran straight at them instead of running out to right first and then trying to hook it back in. It especially made no sense to do that when he was angled 45 degrees to the right of the goals for one shot and running out to the right just made it a tougher kick by narrowing the face of the goals even further ???.
Lids' overall game didn't standout in terms of assists and blistering runs compared to say Blingers so maybe that's why people didn't notice him as much.
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stats mean poo
dreamteam supercoach bla bla bla
deledio does not impose himself or influnce the game enough
tambling has passed him, so has mitch and jackson, polo not far behind
deledio needs to have a mri see if he has a heart
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98 ATM.
Well done to the boy when he gets there.
100 games, having only recently turned 22 is a solid effort.
Must sign him on long term contract soon.
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I hope he is still playing for Richmond when he is 25.
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he needs a haircut, plays better with a crop top
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Liked his game against Adelaide a fair improvement on some his earlier efforts this year.
Hopefully he will be re signed and right to go from the start of 2010
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imo, the game v the crows was his best for the yr, kicked long but still want to see him use his pace and take them on mre just like blingers is doing. lids has the pace and the class, just needs the will power and the want
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Must sign him on long term contract soon.
3 years is long enough. Takes him past 2010-12 and out of the clutches of GC17 and West Sydney.
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Lets hope game 99 is a big one.
Going to be tough against Judd / Murphy / Gibbs.
Must sign him on long term contract soon.
3 years is long enough.
I would be happy with 5-7 year contracts for Deledio / Cotchin ..
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"RUN HARD"
Ch 9 showed Lids writing this on the back of his hand before yesterday. Seems he read it after half-time especially.
Richo said Lids is now pushing into the midfield. Maybe Jade's doing?
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"RUN HARD"
Ch 9 showed Lids writing this on the back of his hand before yesterday. Seems he read it after half-time especially.
Richo said Lids is now pushing into the midfield. Maybe Jade's doing?
Thought he had a good game yesterday. He was on Judd whenever Jackson wasn't there which I really liked, he beat Judd in a 50-50 contest on the Members wing which was really good to see. On the run from outside 50 would be the best kick for goal for us.
He looked stuffed in certain stages of the game, woudl like to know how far he runs compared to others in the club. He doesn't gut run like Cuz but certainly looked like he was working hard yesterday.
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"RUN HARD"
Ch 9 showed Lids writing this on the back of his hand before yesterday. Seems he read it after half-time especially.
Richo said Lids is now pushing into the midfield. Maybe Jade's doing?
Thought he had a good game yesterday. He was on Judd whenever Jackson wasn't there which I really liked, he beat Judd in a 50-50 contest on the Members wing which was really good to see. On the run from outside 50 would be the best kick for goal for us.
He looked stuffed in certain stages of the game, woudl like to know how far he runs compared to others in the club. He doesn't gut run like Cuz but certainly looked like he was working hard yesterday.
True. I think people who bag him forget he's still only 21. He should be encouraged to improve and good to see him wanting to work and run harder. 3 years ago Judd tore Lids to shreds in a quarter when Wallace gave him an educational run with role on Judd in the midfield in the last game of 2006. Yesterday Lids had the better of Judd in the second half head to head.
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30 touches, 2 goals, playing on Judd etc.
good luck to the boy next week
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Lids leads race to 100
richmondfc.com.au
3:42 PM Tue 14 July, 2009
Brett Deledio is set to become the youngest player in Richmond’s history to reach the 100-game milestone.
Youngest Tigers to 100 games
1. Brett Deledio 22 years, 92 days
2. Bryan Wood 22 years, 126 days
3. Matthew Knights 22 years, 264 days
4. Joel Bowden 23 years, 58 days
5. Kevin Bartlett 23 years, 92 days
6. Ray Poulter 23 years, 103 days
7. Brad Ottens 23 years, 132 days
8. Graeme Bond 23 years, 173 days
9. Dale Weightman 23 years, 188 days
10. Wayne Campbell 23 years, 203 days
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/80660/default.aspx
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[[/quote]
For those of you who still havent forgiven Ottens
Brett Deledio is set to become the youngest player in Richmond’s history to reach the 100-game milestone.
Youngest Tigers to 100 games
1. Brett Deledio 22 years, 92 days
2. Bryan Wood 22 years, 126 days
3. Matthew Knights 22 years, 264 days
4. Joel Bowden 23 years, 58 days
5. Kevin Bartlett 23 years, 92 days
6. Ray Poulter 23 years, 103 days
7. Wanker 23 years, 132 days
8. Graeme Bond 23 years, 173 days
9. Dale Weightman 23 years, 188 days
10. Wayne Campbell 23 years, 203 days
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/80660/default.aspx
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[
For those of you who still havent forgiven Ottens
Brett Deledio is set to become the youngest player in Richmond’s history to reach the 100-game milestone.
Youngest Tigers to 100 games
1. Brett Deledio 22 years, 92 days
2. Bryan Wood 22 years, 126 days
3. Matthew Knights 22 years, 264 days
4. Joel Bowden 23 years, 58 days
5. Kevin Bartlett 23 years, 92 days
6. Ray Poulter 23 years, 103 days
7. Wanker 23 years, 132 days
8. Graeme Bond 23 years, 173 days
9. Dale Weightman 23 years, 188 days
10. Wayne Campbell 23 years, 203 days
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/80660/default.aspx
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:lol :rollin
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For those of you who still havent forgiven Ottens
Brett Deledio is set to become the youngest player in Richmond’s history to reach the 100-game milestone.
Youngest Tigers to 100 games
1. Brett Deledio 22 years, 92 days
2. Bryan Wood 22 years, 126 days
3. Matthew Knights 22 years, 264 days
4. Joel Bowden 23 years, 58 days
5. Kevin Bartlett 23 years, 92 days
6. Ray Poulter 23 years, 103 days
7. Wanker 23 years, 132 days
8. Graeme Bond 23 years, 173 days
9. Dale Weightman 23 years, 188 days
10. Wayne Campbell 23 years, 203 days
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/80660/default.aspx
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Got too 100 faster than Meyer / Patto :P
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Congrats Lids :clapping. At only 22 he's on 300 game pace by the time he's 30 (touchwood no serious injuries).
Must sign him on long term contract soon.
3 years is long enough.
I would be happy with 5-7 year contracts for Deledio / Cotchin ..
I think we've learnt the hard way about 5 year contracts. In fact we've also learnt the hard way about 3 years deals for fringe players :P. Most star players get 3 years at other clubs. It's long enough without the risk of the player copping a serious injury and the Club ending up paying a 5-7 year contract they get no return from.
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Deledio almost dropped
By Matt Burgan Sun 26 July, 2009
REIGNING Jack Dyer Medallist Brett Deledio was about to be dropped, Richmond coach Jade Rawlings has revealed.
Rawlings said Deledio was told before round 14 that he was "going to wear a Coburg jumper".
"We put it pretty squarely to him before the Crows game up on the Gold Coast that he needed to lift in a couple of areas," Rawlings said after Sunday's win over Essendon.
"We'd come to a decision that he was just about out of the side. The leadership group were involved in the decision and the reality of him not playing was very real.
Deledio had 26 touches against the Bombers; 13 of them contested.
"He's been able to address the areas – not just the contested possessions – of what we think will make him a better leader, a better player and help this footy club move forward," Rawlings said.
"It takes good character to be able to absorb that and do something about that.
"I've said to him post-match that he's a serious player now, because he's so much more rounded now and he's consistent and you can rely on him,.
"Yes, he'll pinch-hit forward at times, but he's a midfielder."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/81425/default.aspx
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Well thats interesting and good news that they didn't coddle him because of his contract renewal.
Much better from Lids in the last few weeks and if Jade can keep influencing players performances like that I wouldnt object at all if he went through the process and got the coaching gig.
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Interesting comments by Jade, saying he is a midfielder and Wallaces parting comments were that he wasnt a midfielder.Seems that Rawlings has more idea after 5 weeks as coach than Wallace had after 4 and half years :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Interesting comments by Jade, saying he is a midfielder and Wallaces parting comments were that he wasnt a midfielder.Seems that Rawlings has more idea after 5 weeks as coach than Wallace had after 4 and half years :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Jack I would say you think Jade is a better coach than Terry ;D :rollin
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Interesting comments by Jade, saying he is a midfielder and Wallaces parting comments were that he wasnt a midfielder.Seems that Rawlings has more idea after 5 weeks as coach than Wallace had after 4 and half years :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Jack I would say you think Jade is a better coach than Terry ;D :rollin
YES
As we dont go sideways backwards anymore.
And players are playing in positions that suits, it aint that hard you know ::)
And opportunities are given to the younger players to play attacking footy, not to kick the ball 10 metres to a teammate who is covered
Dislike Wallace with a passion, you can now see why.
He killed Lids as a player
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He killed Lids as a player
Maybe in 2009, he played pretty well under him previously
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YES
As we dont go sideways backwards anymore.
And players are playing in positions that suits, it aint that hard you know ::)
And opportunities are given to the younger players to play attacking footy, not to kick the ball 10 metres to a teammate who is covered
Dislike Wallace with a passion, you can now see why.
He killed Lids as a player
OMG this is twice in one day...
Line 1- agree
Line 2- agree...they are also trying to be more team orientated...blocking shepparding etc...protecting the ball carrier...finally!!
Line 3- agree
Line 4 -agree
Line 5- Wallace is no longer at the club..no comment
Line 6 -didnt kill him, but didnt develop him like the past couple of weeks...I have always said that with Lids' pace he should be running down more players...a defensive side to his game makes him more complete...
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The chase tackle against Lovett was awesome.
It looks like he's enjoying it a bit more. Great signs
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isnt it funny how many on here bagged me for suggesting we drop deledio to coburg to teach him a lesson in playing harder and more defensively and having a better work ethic
then jade reveals that 3 weeks ago he told deledio , change ur ways and do all the abovementioned things or u will be wearing a coburg jumper
so i guess all u deledio lovers must hate jade, how dare he question deledios spot in the team and tell him exactly the truth
naughty jade
jade better be careful dogged and danog will be out with the pitch forks
well done jade , at least deledio now is no longer the coaches protected pet now that wallet is gone
and credit where credit is due, well done deledio for responding, and not sooking
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TT i agree...but i think it also helps that he is given 1 position and allowed to play in it.
They have also swung him onto some big names and Lids has responded...Judd Harvey....7 tackles from Lids would have been unheard of 7 weeks ago....Huge credit to Lids in developing that side of his game...makes him more complete and more damaging...his run down of Lovett was awesome and must have been inspirational to his team mates....
Credit to Jade as well...clearly Jade is no goose ...knows what he wants is is slowly creeping along nicely...he may even get appointed next for next year...
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I thought you also said that he was desperately unhappy and wanted to leave?
Or was that Sheedy will be coach?
Maybe we should start another thread.
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I thought you also said that he was desperately unhappy and wanted to leave?
Or was that Sheedy will be coach?
Maybe we should start another thread.
u see how much of a tool u r
i say one thing and morons distort it and tossers like u believe it
i said that at the cocktail party, on that night , he didnt seem a happy person
i spoke to him that night and he wasnt in the best of spirits
make of that what you will
he also said to me its not up to him whether he stays at rfc or not its up to craig cameron, his words not mine!
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isnt it funny how many on here bagged me for suggesting we drop deledio to coburg to teach him a lesson in playing harder and more defensively and having a better work ethic
then jade reveals that 3 weeks ago he told deledio , change ur ways and do all the abovementioned things or u will be wearing a coburg jumper
so i guess all u deledio lovers must hate jade, how dare he question deledios spot in the team and tell him exactly the truth
naughty jade
jade better be careful dogged and danog will be out with the pitch forks
well done jade , at least deledio now is no longer the coaches protected pet now that wallet is gone
and credit where credit is due, well done deledio for responding, and not sooking
TT there is a difference between dropping him and threatning with dropping.
Dropping him to Coburg he woudln't have learned anything.
This way he did by staying in the team and pushing him.
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The issue with lids now is - will he sign a new contract with us, how long it will be, and when the announcement of his re-signing is going to take place.
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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous about this.
We have lots of room in the salary cap he's shown he still can play a 3 Brownlow vote game just needs good direction and support.
Sign him up give him give him what he wants to a certain extent.
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he also said to me its not up to him whether he stays at rfc or not its up to craig cameron, his words not mine!
No poo, that's who is in charge of the contracts at RFC! Lids can't assure the public that he'll stay - that's up to Cameron and the club!
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I thought you also said that he was desperately unhappy and wanted to leave?
Or was that Sheedy will be coach?
Maybe we should start another thread.
u see how much of a tool u r
i say one thing and morons distort it and tossers like u believe it
i said that at the cocktail party, on that night , he didnt seem a happy person
i spoke to him that night and he wasnt in the best of spirits
make of that what you will
he also said to me its not up to him whether he stays at rfc or not its up to craig cameron, his words not mine!
thats k, my interpretation of that is his management have tabled an offer to RFC and they are yet to get a formal response that is acceptable...same position that Brian Lake and Luke Hodge amongst others find themselves in during negotiation
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isnt it funny how many on here bagged me for suggesting we drop deledio to coburg to teach him a lesson in playing harder and more defensively and having a better work ethic
I think the bagging you cop is mainly because of the way you big note yourself and the type of vitriol you spew up on this forum.
Plus IIRC you wanted to trade him as he was a (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-talk034.gif)
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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous about this.
We have lots of room in the salary cap he's shown he still can play a 3 Brownlow vote game just needs good direction and support.
Sign him up give him give him what he wants to a certain extent.
At the start of this season:
Deledio, 84 games, career total 15 brownlow votes
Coughlan, 83 games, 29 brownlow votes
Maybe Cogs should get a new contract too.
Having said that I'm getting a little bit edgy about Deledio myself.
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At the start of this season:
Deledio, 84 games, career total 15 brownlow votes
Coughlan, 83 games, 29 brownlow votes
Maybe Cogs should get a new contract too.
Having said that I'm getting a little bit edgy about Deledio myself.
Hope you gave the fat boy a stir up about the Bombers. I think he was in Maffra over the weekend.
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Being a pro-tanker, I was a little disappointed with the game, so the fat little hog got off easy! :lol
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thats k, my interpretation of that is his management have tabled an offer to RFC and they are yet to get a formal response that is acceptable...same position that Brian Lake and Luke Hodge amongst others find themselves in during negotiation
This is complete speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me if Deledio's manager has queried other clus to get his market value then tabled a very high salary request for Lids next contract. The club has come back and said well you aren't playing well enough to ask this much yet, so if you work on these areas and become the player you need to be to ask for this kind of money then we'll pay it.
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Being a pro-tanker, I was a little disappointed with the game, so the fat little hog got off easy! :lol
:lol
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isnt it funny how many on here bagged me for suggesting we drop deledio to coburg to teach him a lesson in playing harder and more defensively and having a better work ethic
then jade reveals that 3 weeks ago he told deledio , change ur ways and do all the abovementioned things or u will be wearing a coburg jumper
so i guess all u deledio lovers must hate jade, how dare he question deledios spot in the team and tell him exactly the truth
naughty jade
jade better be careful dogged and danog will be out with the pitch forks
well done jade , at least deledio now is no longer the coaches protected pet now that wallet is gone
and credit where credit is due, well done deledio for responding, and not sooking
u said it all tigertime i think some people will just have to face the facts
no matter how much we might 'love' deledio he may be gone nxt year and we hould think of the positives
just as long as cuz is resigned we should be fine
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Looks like X is replying to his own posts again, :ROTFL
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isnt it funny how many on here bagged me for suggesting we drop deledio to coburg to teach him a lesson in playing harder and more defensively and having a better work ethic
then jade reveals that 3 weeks ago he told deledio , change ur ways and do all the abovementioned things or u will be wearing a coburg jumper
so i guess all u deledio lovers must hate jade, how dare he question deledios spot in the team and tell him exactly the truth
naughty jade
jade better be careful dogged and danog will be out with the pitch forks
well done jade , at least deledio now is no longer the coaches protected pet now that wallet is gone
and credit where credit is due, well done deledio for responding, and not sooking
When Deledio plays a bad game by his own standards he is usually not one of our worst 5-10 players.
He will still get 20 odd touches and hit the target most times.
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Looks like X is replying to his own posts again, :ROTFL
LOL.
Do you put on your wifes undies when you post as tigergirl09 X?
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It's the way you say things that matter, I don't believe in character assassination, you can point out players faults without the abuse.
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im sure the lids and cotch show will continue at Tigerland.
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Looks like X is replying to his own posts again, :ROTFL
LOL.
Do you put on your wifes undies when you post as tigergirl09 X?
sorry dippoo, she aint me, think ur so smart but its egg all over ur face, im sure the mods can also prove she aint me
so go have a play
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It's the way you say things that matter, I don't believe in character assassination, you can point out players faults without the abuse.
fair call
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I was slack: Brett Deledio
Jon Ralph | July 31, 2009
RICHMOND midfielder Brett Deledio says the threat of banishment to the VFL and a brutal appraisal from his teammates were the shock tactics that may have turned around his career.
Caretaker coach Jade Rawlings told the 2004 No. 1 draft pick four weeks ago he was on the verge of being dumped because of his total lack of accountability.
Reigning best-and-fairest winner Deledio embraced the challenge and in the past month has played some of the best football of his career, with his contested possessions skyrocketing.
Deledio, 22, told the Herald Sun yesterday the honesty session with Rawlings and the club's leadership group was the jolt he needed.
"I had weaknesses that needed addressing and if I didn't address them I would have been representing Coburg (in the VFL)," he said.
"I just wasn't being accountable.
"Jade said if I wasn't prepared to do it, I would be out of the side, and I very nearly was.
"I guess it was the kick up the arse I needed. (Footy) has come pretty easy, and I hadn't really been told off about that sort of thing, or hadn't been threatened with representing Coburg, not that playing there would be a bad thing, by the way.
"But it really would have dinted the pride. It was the best thing for me.
"I am not saying I have got it nailed. I have got plenty of things to work on, but for Jade to be honest, and the leadership group to be honest with me, was fantastic."
Deledio yesterday endorsed the club's direction, as he:
URGED 31-year-old star midfielder Ben Cousins to consider playing on for at least the next three years.
LABELLED Rawlings a revelation and hoped he was given the coaching role full-time.
SAID the players hoped club legend Matthew Richardson plays next year.
Deledio's inability to cope with tags and win his own ball had some labelling him a downhill skier in what has been the most challenging year of his 101-game, five-season career.
Deledio said being made to face the challenge of taking on taggers by Rawlings, rather than continually moved forward or back by former coach Terry Wallace, had been the best remedy for his troubles.
"In hindsight it was probably the best thing. I have no qualms with the way Terry coached me and I'm good mates with him, but in hindsight I would have preferred to have battled my way through being tagged and work out how to deal with it," he said.
Deledio has gone head-to-head against dangerous midfielders like Chris Judd, Bryce Gibbs and Andrew Welsh in recent weeks and loves the challenge of trying to shut down an opponent.
"At the start of the year I thought I would just do what I did last year and it should all happen. But with players coming along like (Nathan) Foley and (Trent) Cotchin and Cousins, you are not always tagged so you have to be responsible for an opponent," he said.
"It's far more rewarding to do a job and only have 20 possessions, rather than having 32 and kicking two goals and your opponent has 30, too. You walk into the shower and you are hobbling and you know you have had a real dip."
Deledio said Cousins' real worth would be on show when he joined teammates for a full pre-season.
"He probably sees himself only having one or two more years left, but I would like to see him stick around for longer because he has just got so much to offer."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25860337-19742,00.html
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Ticks all the boxes there does Lids, just 1 left !
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Certainly doesn't read as the blokes about to leave or terribly unhappy :lol
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The only tag he wasn't able to break in the last 4 weeks was at the cocktail night.
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The only tag he wasn't able to break in the last 4 weeks was at the cocktail night.
It was probably TigerTime
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Certainly doesn't read as the blokes about to leave or terribly unhappy :lol
well isnt it funny that all the things i have criticised deledio for and got abused on here for saying so jade said the same things
and about deledio being unhappy, i did say he seemed unhappy at the cocktail party, for what reasons i have no idea, but what part of that do some of you not understand!
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Showed a great deal of maturity and leadership to take what was said on board and act upon it. He could have easily ignored their assessment or made excuses but he instead sought to change his effort and mindset. This could be a turning point for Lids and moreso, the team as a whole.
Rawlings honesty and how the players are responding to it is very impressive
Stripes
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This could be a turning point for Lids and moreso, the team as a whole.
Rawlings honesty and how the players are responding to it is very impressive
Stripes
But hang on, this might help us win games mightn't it?
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and about deledio being unhappy, i did say he seemed unhappy at the cocktail party, for what reasons i have no idea,
The rumour is he is being stalked by some crazed fan.
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and about deledio being unhappy, i did say he seemed unhappy at the cocktail party, for what reasons i have no idea,
The rumour is he is being stalked by some crazed fan.
Was that delta on the front page of the Hun this morning or deledio?
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and about deledio being unhappy, i did say he seemed unhappy at the cocktail party, for what reasons i have no idea,
The rumour is he is being stalked by some crazed fan.
must be u , not me cos i may be crazy, but not a fan of his yet! when i see him consistantly working hard , maybe i will become a fan
isnt it funny how he has to write on his hands "run hard" to remind him to run harder and increase his workrate.............shot dogged tried to kill me a month sor so ago when said all these thingsm and now lids comes out and admits he had been lazy
dogged u owe me a drink or 3
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Again ....it is the way things are said. Incidently I don't fully agree with this line of thinking just because the papers have got hold of it. Maybe Jade should publicise what he has said to some other players. To tell lids he needs to lift and to do it bluntly is great but I'm not convinced about doing it through the media. Also if lids was having such a bad year ( Ave 22 possies 3rd highest in contested possies, only onballer in top 4 or 5 goalkickers ) then there is about 38 other players who need also to be named in the media. I just wonder whether some players are judged differently to others and some get leniency because of their draft pick number.It would be interesting to know the truth about the role Wallace wanted lids to play and how he tossed him all over the field.
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im pretty sure all the players or most of them were given reality checks, but we all know deledio has a huge ego, u cannot deny that, so maybe this was the best way to get it into his head. dont get me wrong, i want him to stay, i always said he had allthe natural talent and ability but needed to fine tune his work ethic. with higher work ethic , deledio can achieve it all
possessions mean nothing its all about impact , did anyone notice that the bombers only got on top of us when tambling went off injured, and when tambling came back on we got the momentum back, now tambling didnt have a high possession game but he impacted with everything he did and once again was the architect
next yr if deledio stays on, we are going to be an exciting team with cuz, cotch, lids and blingers being our main mids , they will be a hard midfeild to beat if all work hard together.
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how do you know about this ego thing? And what's this about when blingers went off? Blingers played well but you must have been at a different game to me. I actually know lids very well, you obviously don't.
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I have never thought the deledio had tickets on himself as has been suggested here. I find it an interesting viewpoint though. Nevertheless great players for the most part have to have some ego to start with, it is harder to succeed in life if your confidence and self esteem is shot. For the most part Deledio seems like a good kid and hopefully he can live up to the expectations of our supporters.
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Good call ,self belief I don't think should be mixed with ego. Very hard to succeed if you don't think you belong.
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I think Deledio is very self assured and confident in his ability
I don't think that means he has a big ego
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I think Deledio is very self assured and confident in his ability
I don't think that means he has a big ego
You obviously did not watch Australias Greatest Athlete - as an accredited National Coaching Council Coach much to my surprise the reverse was my observation
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how do you know about this ego thing? And what's this about when blingers went off? Blingers played well but you must have been at a different game to me. I actually know lids very well, you obviously don't.
i know u know lids very well, got that impression ages ago, lets just say i know a family member of his, i will leave it at that. now i have nothing against lids or his ego, i have said and i maintain this, he has all th etalent, imo i feel he never worked hard enough , u r biased bec u know him, but even lids has since admitted he could have worked harder
i hope he stays with us, u would know more than most, but u have to admit , when he works his arse off he is a much better player. saying that i do feel terry wallace stuffed up deledios development
about blingers , when he went off injured, the bombers gained momentum, wen he came back on , we won it back, tamblings work when he never had the ball and his defensive efforts cannot be taken for granted
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but even lids has since admitted he could have worked harder
I'm sorry, but other than maybe Richo & Cousins, most other players in the comp would admit they could work harder
It would be very rare for someone to admit that every week they do everything they possibly can
Doing so would be an admission that that's all you'll ever get out of them, no further improvement at all
Actually, even Richo & Cousins, being the type of players they are would still say they could have done more
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judd, j brown, gabbett, bartell, black, aker,goodes, mcleod, kirk, i could go on and on and what about past players, buckley ricciuto crawfod etc etc etc
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judd, j brown, gabbett, bartell, black, aker,goodes, mcleod, kirk, i could go on and on and what about past players, buckley ricciuto crawfod etc etc etc
I bet every one of them would tell you that they could have worked harder. Knowing you can do more and then striving to improve goes a long way to making a successful person. Even Judd is getting exposed for his lack of defensive side lately.
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well lardy da! mopsy. Nothing like a bit of paper to make you an authority.
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Another very good game by Lids today :clapping
Never actually thought he had an ego just a belief in his own ability, which I would think in AFL you need alot of. And I must say on the few times I've spoken to him he has certainly hasn't come across as having a big ego always been great to chat to. :thumbsup
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In my humble opinion he should be captain of the club. :thumbsup
Has shown alot of leadership in the last few weeks.
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In my humble opinion he should be captain of the club. :thumbsup
Has shown alot of leadership in the last few weeks.
Tend to agree Tucker. I actually would have made him captain this year but that's just me ;D
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In my humble opinion he should be captain of the club. :thumbsup
Has shown alot of leadership in the last few weeks.
Tend to agree Tucker. I actually would have made him captain this year but that's just me ;D
Somehow I knew you would bite sooner or later WP ;D
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In my humble opinion he should be captain of the club. :thumbsup
Has shown alot of leadership in the last few weeks.
if he keeps playing like he has in the last month than he deserves it. someone always needs to be there to step up and deledio has that potential. Cotch or even cuz could be vice- i would be happy with that (if they aren't always injured!!)
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In my humble opinion he should be captain of the club. :thumbsup
Has shown alot of leadership in the last few weeks.
if he keeps playing like he has in the last month than he deserves it. someone always needs to be there to step up and deledio has that potential. Cotch or even cuz could be vice- i would be happy with that (if they aren't always injured!!)
i bet you would be happy!!!!!
u must be busy today ?
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i bet you would be happy!!!!!
u must be busy today ?
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TT2 what r u tlking about
of course im busy i always am however that is NONE of ur business ??? ??? :stupid
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i bet you would be happy!!!!!
u must be busy today ?
TT2 what r u tlking about
of course im busy i always am however that is NONE of ur business ??? ??? :stupid
wash ur mouth out with soap young lady!!!!
Edited: for avoiding swear filter refer quote
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Lol, having a conversation with yourself. Must be busy. :lol ;)
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Lol, having a conversation with yourself. Must be busy. :lol ;)
egg in ur face
tigergal aint me
so go back, find ur tweezers and ......
Edited: for avoiding the swear filter again and to remove insults
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X is a crossdresser.
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only in ur dreams boy wonder
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For the finally time enough with sniping, personal insults and trying to avoid the swear filter.
Stick to the topic
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For the finally time enough with sniping, personal insults and trying to avoid the swear filter.
Stick to the topic
I would've thought that would be easy to fix....
A lot of the abuse and violent threats via PM comes from one poster on this forum.
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So true , I've been PM'd
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me too! nasty ppl out there
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I would've thought that would be easy to fix....
A lot of the abuse and violent threats via PM comes from one poster on this forum.
We dont know what gets said via PM :-\
Any formal complaints forward them on to Mr One-Eyed or myself
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I would've thought that would be easy to fix....
A lot of the abuse and violent threats via PM comes from one poster on this forum.
We dont know what gets said via PM :-\
Any formal complaints forward them on to Mr One-Eyed or myself
how big is ur inbox, the amount of abuse i cop is quite funny actually, lucky i have a thick skin . but some ppl just have a need to boost their egos via a pm or 3 , oh welll each to their own
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I would've thought that would be easy to fix....
A lot of the abuse and violent threats via PM comes from one poster on this forum.
We dont know what gets said via PM :-\
Any formal complaints forward them on to Mr One-Eyed or myself
how big is ur inbox, the amount of abuse i cop is quite funny actually, lucky i have a thick skin . but some ppl just have a need to boost their egos via a pm or 3 , oh welll each to their own
I've never PMd you, however wouldn't it be easier for everyone if you just stopped being a tool?
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I've watched the "melee" from the weekend over and over again from multiple angles as its about the most entertaining thing we've done in a fortnight.
Something that hasn't been mentioned is Deledio's involvement.
He was:
The 1st player to aid King when Brad Dick and Dale Thomas were roughing King up initially, after the Didak punch.
He also was the first player to help King when he was stacked on by 3 Collingwood players by ripping Dane Swan off him.
Helping team mates out when things get hot in the kitchen goes along way.
Cogs was also in very quickly and was first to put his head over the ball when Didak came and could have got suspended, I admire that sort of stuff, takes more guts then anyone knows.
I don't think a "Well done" is the right thing to say but I must admit I was pleased to see Brett in both scuffles he was first in to help out, I suppose from that point of view its good to see.
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I've watched the "melee" from the weekend over and over again from multiple angles as its about the most entertaining thing we've done in a fortnight.
Something that hasn't been mentioned is Deledio's involvement.
He was:
The 1st player to aid King when Brad Dick and Dale Thomas were roughing King up initially, after the Didak punch.
He also was the first player to help King when he was stacked on by 3 Collingwood players by ripping Dane Swan off him.
Helping team mates out when things get hot in the kitchen goes along way.
Cogs was also in very quickly and was first to put his head over the ball when Didak came and could have got suspended, I admire that sort of stuff, takes more guts then anyone knows.
I don't think a "Well done" is the right thing to say but I must admit I was pleased to see Brett in both scuffles he was first in to help out, I suppose from that point of view its good to see.
Was also our best player on the day in a very crap team
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Yep gotta agree there most entertaining thing we have done in a while.
Lids effort was great in taking on two Scumwood pansies in the melee. His game has been great of late and along with Cotch (and Richie T)plus this years draft pick is our hope in the future.
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Hopefully, now that the new coach is known, our next major announcement is Lids has been officially re-signed :pray.
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Conflicting reports on Lids in today's dailys.....
The Tigers and their reigning out-of-contract club champion Brett Deledio remain significantly at odds financially over a new deal, with Deledio fielding offers from other clubs understood to be worth more than $500,000 annually.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/coaching-merrygoround-spins-on/2009/08/26/1251001942736.html
Star midfielder Brett Deledio, who had been attracting healthy interest from other clubs and was yet to commit to the Tigers, is now also expected to re-sign in coming weeks.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25986783-19742,00.html
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I'd be surprised if we didn't offer him somewhere around that $500k amount anyway, plus front loading.
Would take a 22 year old Deledio for $500-550k per year over a 26 year old Judd at $1-1.1 million per year every time.
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We can't afford to let him go.
Hardwick needs to tell him 'we'll give you this amount, but boy you're gonna be made to earn it'.
I think over the last few weeks something has clicked in Lids' head anyway. Tackles, contested ball numbers have been way up.
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I think over the last few weeks something has clicked in Lids' head anyway. Tackles, contested ball numbers have been way up.
Hhhhhmmmm, let me think what that could be................................................................the fact that it's contract time maybe? Nah, just call me an old sceptic.
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I think over the last few weeks something has clicked in Lids' head anyway. Tackles, contested ball numbers have been way up.
Hhhhhmmmm, let me think what that could be................................................................the fact that it's contract time maybe? Nah, just call me an old sceptic.
I'd like to think it's the Cousins influence, or the move into the midfield, or Wallace leaving...... :pray
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Money and salary cap isn't an issue for us given all the retirements we'll have. It's more a question of is Lids worth $500k per year? (although that's what other clubs are reportedly offering if you trust the media still). Compared to #13 on $300k he is lol. Seriously though he's probably in our top 4 players so the answer is most likely yes. We could even frontload his contract over 3-years to easily manage our TPP spending and salary cap over that time.
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Seriously though he's probably in our top 4 players so the answer is most likely yes.
Definitely yes.
Sign him up for $500k and pay some hard nut trainer another $50k a year to bust his chops.
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Seriously though he's probably in our top 4 players so the answer is most likely yes.
Definitely yes.
Sign him up for $500k and pay some hard nut trainer another $50k a year to bust his chops.
I don't know if we have $2.2m to spend on 44 hard nut personal trainers to bust all their chops :lol
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i think he is a 500k player, especially if he continues his current work ethic..
surely we dont have salary issues with the side we have, though isnt mcmahon on more than lids atm?
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He would be worth it all day long if he played with the hardness and attitude he has shown over the past few weeks. My main question/worry is why only show that now? Everyone is talking about delistings for non-performers but some of our better lights are not immune to criticism. Wouldn't be the first time we have been bitten by the 'contract' bug.
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Lids hoefully will stay and Hardwick's tutelage will take him to the next level. :pray
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Hutchy saying contract negotiations for Lids going well and he's expecting him to sign a 3 year deal soon. Great news if true. :thumbsup
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Hutchy saying contract negotiations for Lids going well and he's expecting him to sign a 3 year deal soon. Great news if true. :thumbsup
Some might say that means Lids is definitely going if Hutchy says he's staying lol.
Fingers and toes crossed Hutchy is right about this one :pray
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Lids would be rubbing his hands together at Hardwick coming to the club, he will re-sign.. :thumbsup
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A poll on what current AFL players think the best player is worth at each club:
$500,000 to $600,000 5.4%
$600,000 to $700,000 6.3%
$700,000 to $800,000 20.6%
$800,000 to $900,000 22.3%
$900,000 to $1,000,000 17.7%
$1,000,000 plus 27.7%
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25989868-19742,00.html
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After last night if we actually paid players on performance there'd be 99% cap space left to fit Lids' new contract in lol. Sheesh who could blame him if he did a runner :help.
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After last night if we actually paid players on performance there'd be 99% cap space left to fit Lids' new contract in lol. Sheesh who could blame him if he did a runner :help.
For Deledio to stay I reckon hed need to see Hardwick swing the axe through the club list like never before. He too needs to be sold on there being hope. There is no hope with players currently on the list need to make minimum 12 changes probably I would make 15 changes.
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After last night if we actually paid players on performance there'd be 99% cap space left to fit Lids' new contract in lol. Sheesh who could blame him if he did a runner :help.
For Deledio to stay I reckon hed need to see Hardwick swing the axe through the club list like never before. He too needs to be sold on there being hope. There is no hope with players currently on the list need to make minimum 12 changes probably I would make 15 changes.
correct me if im wrong, but isnt 13 the maximum number of changes a team can make to a list in 1 given yr?
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After last night if we actually paid players on performance there'd be 99% cap space left to fit Lids' new contract in lol. Sheesh who could blame him if he did a runner :help.
For Deledio to stay I reckon hed need to see Hardwick swing the axe through the club list like never before. He too needs to be sold on there being hope. There is no hope with players currently on the list need to make minimum 12 changes probably I would make 15 changes.
correct me if im wrong, but isnt 13 the maximum number of changes a team can make to a list in 1 given yr?
I dont think theres a maximum limit, its just hard to replace this many and a club has to go very deep in the national draft to find replacements. The way things have turned out, I would just turn them over anyway, the players who need to go arent going to make any difference, so we should just get rid of them anyway.
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After last night if we actually paid players on performance there'd be 99% cap space left to fit Lids' new contract in lol. Sheesh who could blame him if he did a runner :help.
For Deledio to stay I reckon hed need to see Hardwick swing the axe through the club list like never before. He too needs to be sold on there being hope. There is no hope with players currently on the list need to make minimum 12 changes probably I would make 15 changes.
correct me if im wrong, but isnt 13 the maximum number of changes a team can make to a list in 1 given yr?
There is no maximum, however you do need to pay 92.5% of the TPP every year, the difference is only about 600k from 100 to 92.5%, that's not much.
Considering all new draftees get a fixed salary of around 50-60k per year, when you are delisting players getting 250-400k+ that 600k buffer doesn't last long.
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For Deledio to stay I reckon hed need to see Hardwick swing the axe through the club list like never before. He too needs to be sold on there being hope. There is no hope with players currently on the list need to make minimum 12 changes probably I would make 15 changes.
Lids agrees with you Ramps ;)
Tigers may need cleanout: Deledio
Justin Chadwick
August 29, 2009
Brett Deledio admits Richmond's woeful showing against West Coast is proof incoming coach Damien Hardwick needs to make sweeping changes to the AFL club.
The Tigers' season from hell ended with barely a whimper at Subiaco Oval on Friday night as the Eagles cruised to an 80-point win, 17.23 (125) to 6.9 (45).
Richmond veterans Kane Johnson and Joel Bowden retired during the season and Mark Coughlan and Nathan Brown have already been told they will be de-listed.
But Deledio said Hardwick may need to make even more ruthless cuts if Richmond are to escape their current mire.
While Ben Cousins and Matthew Richardson are expected to be offered new contracts by Hardwick, the futures of ruckman Troy Simmonds and Graham Polak are still unclear, along with a number of underperforming younger players.
The Tigers posted just five wins and a draw this season to finish in 15th place.
“I think that Damien Hardwick said that there’s going to be a bit more pain before we achieve the success and that might mean a clean out of the list. We’ve seen a couple of older players, our classy players, leave us and retire. It is a bit hard."
“We now strip everything back and start afresh and I think our biggest problem is our skills at the moment, we need to be kicking the footy as much as we can.
“It’s all stuff to work on, so it’s not all doom and gloom.”
http://www.watoday.com.au/breaking-news-sport/tigers-may-need-cleanout-deledio-20090829-f2wi.html?page=-1
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/83746/default.aspx
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“We now strip everything back and start afresh and I think our biggest problem is our skills at the moment, we need to be kicking the footy as much as we can.
Make Lids playing assistant coach. He has more idea what needs to be done than anyone else down there in years :clapping. He obviously hated the gamestyle we were playing and who can blame him.
Not the words of someone who wants out either hopefully :pray.
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ur right - pray to god MT - I have been a critic, but that's only because I know as we all do he can be so much more. Hopefully at Richmond .... :pray
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“I think that Damien Hardwick said that there’s going to be a bit more pain before we achieve the success and that might mean a clean out of the list. We’ve seen a couple of older players, our classy players, leave us and retire. It is a bit hard."
“We now strip everything back and start afresh and I think our biggest problem is our skills at the moment, we need to be kicking the footy as much as we can.
“It’s all stuff to work on, so it’s not all doom and gloom.”
http://www.watoday.com.au/breaking-news-sport/tigers-may-need-cleanout-deledio-20090829-f2wi.html?page=-1
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/83746/default.aspx
make Lids captian.
4 year contact
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“We now strip everything back and start afresh and I think our biggest problem is our skills at the moment, we need to be kicking the footy as much as we can.
Make Lids playing assistant coach. He has more idea what needs to be done than anyone else down there in years :clapping. He obviously hated the gamestyle we were playing and who can blame him.
Not the words of someone who wants out either hopefully :pray.
Because my monthly download limit is down to the wire and Im having to post in off peak hours lol ... I think this article is terrific and I agree with MT that its not the comments of a player looking to quit, just a young player who wants his club to its act together so it can have success.
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i believe good news is not too far away. :rollin
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The AFL's chosen ones
Jon Ralph From: Herald Sun November 25, 2009
BRETT DELEDIO
Richmond, 2004
MEMORIES: "I remember getting a phone call from Greg Miller the night before saying, 'We are going to take you at No. 1'. That took a lot of pressure off. I was very nervous prior to that, but very glad to receive that call. On the day I was still a bit jittery, even though I knew where I was going. I remember looking across to see the old man, who had a little twinkle in his eye. It is a day I will cherish."
EXPECTATION: "I didn't feel a lot of pressure. I went in with the attitude that I was just another player trying to get a game."
ADVICE: "Just go out there and do what you have done for the majority of your career. And enjoy it. It's a lot of fun."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-afls-chosen-ones/story-e6frf9jf-1225803444275
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...is a soft, front running, flashy, show pony. Discuss.
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Simple, he isn't
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You're not watching him closely enough then. When the going gets really tough, he goes missing. Some blokes, like Hodge or Sewell or Mitchell actually enjoy the physical challenges, and lift when the game gets hard and tough. When has Deledio ever done that? I can't think of a time when he's done that.
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He is a very good player, i don't think he is a leader or inspiror of men though.
I think of him as the Nicky Dal mold of a player, great disposal and ability to read the play, but you need a Lenny Hayes type extractor to go with him.
The judgement placed on our players is increadible. The greatest of players sometimes have the ability to win the game off their own boot.
We don't have a fwd line to speak of, or backline of any real depth or talent. You can't expect Lids to do everything.
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You're not watching him closely enough then. When the going gets really tough, he goes missing. Some blokes, like Hodge or Sewell or Mitchell actually enjoy the physical challenges, and lift when the game gets hard and tough. When has Deledio ever done that? I can't think of a time when he's done that.
Garbage, he's a lone hand in our midfield. Stop Lids and you stop Richmond. He was getting no help from Cotchin or Martin, who just played their own game and looked good doing it. We had no Jackson or Cousins in the midfield who know how to block for their team mates. When Lids got the ball (which was more than anyone in the side next to Martin) his speed and delivery was perfect.
Not to mention its only a NAB Cup game, to judge him for not trying to get himself killed when he's our most important player is laughable.
You really are focussing on the wrong player, Lids is not the problem.
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Lids is one of our best players actually srap that he is our best player. He delivers the balls perfectly all the time.
I want him our captain, I cant see him as ours though, he is too timid. We need someone with balls not like the imposter Newman we have now
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You're not watching him closely enough then. When the going gets really tough, he goes missing. Some blokes, like Hodge or Sewell or Mitchell actually enjoy the physical challenges, and lift when the game gets hard and tough. When has Deledio ever done that? I can't think of a time when he's done that.
he won the hard ball enough times last game
he took marks running back into the flight
he kicked the ball 70 meters down the guts when other would have hand ball sideways
nothing wrong with Deledio. if was not in a team full of 19 year olds who cannot get a touch he'd be far better.
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I'm sure we all saw the brilliant spoil he did from the Hawks cross kick in our Forward 50 (to Shoenmakers??) The amount of ground he flew across to make that spoil was incredible. Full stretch, took one in the ribs and kept on ticking...Nothing soft about that!!!
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He is a very good player, i don't think he is a leader or inspiror of men though.
I think of him as the Nicky Dal mold of a player, great disposal and ability to read the play, but you need a Lenny Hayes type extractor to go with him.
The judgement placed on our players is increadible. The greatest of players sometimes have the ability to win the game off their own boot.
We don't have a fwd line to speak of, or backline of any real depth or talent. You can't expect Lids to do everything.
:clapping Well said.
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I HAVE BEEN DELEDIOS BIGGEST CRITIC AND BALMED HIM FOR MANY OF THESE ACTIONS
ASK DANOG!
however
how can ppl bag deledio after a nab cup game in which i saw great signs from him
remember he has never been an inside player and prob never will be, with guys like cotch martin and if foley comes good plus jacko and cuz deledio wont need to be an inside player
what i saw was deledio go in when it was his turn, he actually went in pretty hard on sat night and was poloshed with his skills
imo he should play hff with a license to roam and run
some of deledios tackling and defensive wk on sat was the best i have seen him do
he will have a great yr this yr and wont be gifted a jd medal lik ewallace gave him but will be a team player and go in when its his turn
deledio is not our problem
players like rance white hislop thomson that cant kick are our problem
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OK
I HAVE BEEN DELEDIOS BIGGEST CRITIC AND BALMED HIM FOR MANY OF THESE ACTIONS
ASK DANOG!
however
how can ppl bag deledio after a nab cup game in which i saw great signs from him
remember he has never been an inside player and prob never will be, with guys like cotch martin and if foley comes good plus jacko and cuz deledio wont need to be an inside player
what i saw was deledio go in when it was his turn, he actually went in pretty hard on sat night and was poloshed with his skills
imo he should play hff with a license to roam and run
some of deledios tackling and defensive wk on sat was the best i have seen him do
he will have a great yr this yr and wont be gifted a jd medal lik ewallace gave him but will be a team player and go in when its his turn
deledio is not our problem
players like rance white hislop thomson that cant kick are our problem
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:clapping
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He is a very good player, i don't think he is a leader or inspiror of men though.
I think of him as the Nicky Dal mold of a player, great disposal and ability to read the play, but you need a Lenny Hayes type extractor to go with him.
He's a much tougher player than Dal Santo. I agree he isn't an extractor, nor should he be, but he still can go in and get it when its there to get. The last player we want at the bottom of every pack is Deledio
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You're not watching him closely enough then. When the going gets really tough, he goes missing. Some blokes, like Hodge or Sewell or Mitchell actually enjoy the physical challenges, and lift when the game gets hard and tough. When has Deledio ever done that? I can't think of a time when he's done that.
he won the hard ball enough times last game
he took marks running back into the flight
he kicked the ball 70 meters down the guts when other would have hand ball sideways
nothing wrong with Deledio. if was not in a team full of 19 year olds who cannot get a touch he'd be far better.
agree deledio is a fine player but have to disagree the 19 - 21 yr olds are not the problem.
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Brett Deledio Is A Soft Co*k!
when the pressure is on, he goes missing!
when the match is there to be won, he goes missing!
when the pressure is off, he is a star!
:)
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Brett Deledio Is A Soft Co*k!
when the pressure is on, he goes missing!
when the match is there to be won, he goes missing!
when the pressure is off, he is a star!
:)
A bit like you huh, with your huge generalisations being made in february?!
Even if Brett was a flawless star, do you think we would have won that many more games? I grant you that in some circumstances a Hodge type could have got us over the line in some games, but we aren't talking the difference between finals and nineth at the moment are we? Why do people insist on being individualistic when it is so obiviously a team game. We had Richo for more than a decade and where did that get us? Premierships winners have a plethora of stars, never the one!
He has flaws, but from what i saw on Saturday night he is trying very hard to address them.
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OK
I HAVE BEEN DELEDIOS BIGGEST CRITIC AND BALMED HIM FOR MANY OF THESE ACTIONS
ASK DANOG!
however
how can ppl bag deledio after a nab cup game in which i saw great signs from him
remember he has never been an inside player and prob never will be, with guys like cotch martin and if foley comes good plus jacko and cuz deledio wont need to be an inside player
what i saw was deledio go in when it was his turn, he actually went in pretty hard on sat night and was poloshed with his skills
imo he should play hff with a license to roam and run
some of deledios tackling and defensive wk on sat was the best i have seen him do
he will have a great yr this yr and wont be gifted a jd medal lik ewallace gave him but will be a team player and go in when its his turn
deledio is not our problem
players like rance white hislop thomson that cant kick are our problem
Well said TT!
He had a great spoil against Campbell Brown and came off 2nd best, was a good read of play and gutsy diving spoil throwing his body at Brown.
He's not a Lenny Hayes he's not a Sam Mitchell.
He wont be going in and handballing bals out like Shane Tuck, when has GAry Ablett got a hard ball get. You need a full round depth of talent in a football side if everyone was getting hardball gets out of the middle who is running and carrying?
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OK
I HAVE BEEN DELEDIOS BIGGEST CRITIC AND BALMED HIM FOR MANY OF THESE ACTIONS
ASK DANOG!
however
how can ppl bag deledio after a nab cup game in which i saw great signs from him
remember he has never been an inside player and prob never will be, with guys like cotch martin and if foley comes good plus jacko and cuz deledio wont need to be an inside player
what i saw was deledio go in when it was his turn, he actually went in pretty hard on sat night and was poloshed with his skills
imo he should play hff with a license to roam and run
some of deledios tackling and defensive wk on sat was the best i have seen him do
he will have a great yr this yr and wont be gifted a jd medal lik ewallace gave him but will be a team player and go in when its his turn
deledio is not our problem
players like rance white hislop thomson that cant kick are our problem
Well said TT!
He had a great spoil against Campbell Brown and came off 2nd best, was a good read of play and gutsy diving spoil throwing his body at Brown.
He's not a Lenny Hayes he's not a Sam Mitchell.
He wont be going in and handballing bals out like Shane Tuck, when has GAry Ablett got a hard ball get. You need a full round depth of talent in a football side if everyone was getting hardball gets out of the middle who is running and carrying?
:thumbsup
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:clapping
You need midfield depth in order for the cream to truly rise. Look at the impact losing Judd and Cousins from the Eagles has had to Daniel Kerr's game.
I see Lids still needing to stand up when the game (and season) are in the balance.
But R1 of the NAB cup without mature bodies of the Cuz, Jacko and Foley are not the times of year I'm expecting a game tearing apart like performance.
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lights out torch
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Just about seen it all in threads now, half expecting the "Hardwick has to go now" thread
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused009.gif)
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Just about seen it all in threads now, half expecting the "Hardwick has to go now" thread
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused009.gif)
C'mon chuck you know that won't happen until after the Carlton game... ;D
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OK
I HAVE BEEN DELEDIOS BIGGEST CRITIC AND BLAMED HIM FOR MANY OF THESE ACTIONS
ASK DANOG!
however
how can ppl bag deledio after a nab cup game in which i saw great signs from him
remember he has never been an inside player and prob never will be, with guys like cotch martin and if foley comes good plus jacko and cuz deledio wont need to be an inside player
what i saw was deledio go in when it was his turn, he actually went in pretty hard on sat night and was poloshed with his skills
imo he should play hff with a license to roam and run
some of deledios tackling and defensive wk on sat was the best i have seen him do
he will have a great yr this yr and wont be gifted a jd medal lik ewallace gave him but will be a team player and go in when its his turn
deledio is not our problem
players like rance white hislop thomson that cant kick are our problem
:clapping :clapping :clapping :thumbsup
One of your finest TTII
His gut running on Saturday night was very very good also :thumbsup
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Just about seen it all in threads now, half expecting the "Hardwick has to go now" thread
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused009.gif)
Im waiting for the "Oh No-We are overachieving" threads to start when we win a game.
Never a dull moment on OER. ;)
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He wont be going in and handballing bals out like Shane Tuck, when has GAry Ablett got a hard ball get. You need a full round depth of talent in a football side if everyone was getting hardball gets out of the middle who is running and carrying?
:thumbsup
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We dont expect little brett to get the in and under ball - that would be ignorant and asking a lot...but it would be nice if he at least played the run and carry role with conviction.
Seriously,every now and again is no good.
There are times when he pops up during a game and i think "stuff - where has he been?"
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OK
I HAVE BEEN DELEDIOS BIGGEST CRITIC AND BLAMED HIM FOR MANY OF THESE ACTIONS
ASK DANOG!
however
how can ppl bag deledio after a nab cup game in which i saw great signs from him
remember he has never been an inside player and prob never will be, with guys like cotch martin and if foley comes good plus jacko and cuz deledio wont need to be an inside player
what i saw was deledio go in when it was his turn, he actually went in pretty hard on sat night and was poloshed with his skills
imo he should play hff with a license to roam and run
some of deledios tackling and defensive wk on sat was the best i have seen him do
he will have a great yr this yr and wont be gifted a jd medal lik ewallace gave him but will be a team player and go in when its his turn
deledio is not our problem
players like rance white hislop thomson that cant kick are our problem
:clapping :clapping :clapping :thumbsup
One of your finest TTII
His gut running on Saturday night was very very good also :thumbsup
maybe this is the 2010 version of TigerTime II
maybe i should change my name to TigerTime III lol
seriously deledio did very well on sat , he needed more mates and they will come as the season develops
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maybe this is the 2010 version of TigerTime II
maybe i should change my name to TigerTime III lol
seriously deledio did very well on sat , he needed more mates and they will come as the season develops
maybe l should just come down there & give you a slapping ;D
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maybe this is the 2010 version of TigerTime II
maybe i should change my name to TigerTime III lol
Why don't you change it to 'X' :lol
Or is 'X' a banned nic??
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maybe this is the 2010 version of TigerTime II
maybe i should change my name to TigerTime III lol
Why don't you change it to 'X' :lol
Or is 'X' a banned nic??
you have mentioned this quite a few times as have others
so i fugure i will change my user name to x
hope this makes you happy
so whats happens now, do ppl bloew me lots of kisses...x
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Nice job TT2 haha :cheers
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Nice job TT2 haha :cheers
get back to school!!!
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you have mentioned this quite a few times as have others
That would be me as well wouldn't it, dear :-*
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mwah
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mwah
Worst kept secret around here :wallywink
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xxx
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you have mentioned this quite a few times as have others
That would be me as well wouldn't it, dear :-*
Lol- I just read your sig - Up until just then I thought you were a Faith No More fan ;D
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you have mentioned this quite a few times as have others
That would be me as well wouldn't it, dear :-*
Lol- I just read your sig - Up until just then I thought you were a Faith No More fan ;D
Well I am that too lol
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Just about seen it all in threads now, half expecting the "Hardwick has to go now" thread
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused009.gif)
Im waiting for the "Oh No-We are overachieving" threads to start when we win a game.
Never a dull moment on OER. ;)
That was 2005 ...
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2003 draft guide:
Details:
Club: Kyabram/Murray
DOB: 18 April 1987 Hgt: 188cm Wgt: 81kg
Position: Onballer/Forward
Natural Foot: Right
Honours:
Kevin Sheehan Medal 2003 (best player in Division 1 of the Under 16's Carnival)
AIS/AFL Academy 2003
Victoria Country 2004
All Australian 2004
Forward Pocket in TAC Cup Team of the Year 2004
National Draft Camp 2004
TAC Stats:
2003: 7 games, 7 goals, 18.3 PPG
2004: 11 games, 21 goals, 23.9 PPG
Strengths: Deledio is a brilliant midfielder and forward who looks destined to be an AFL star. He is what I would call the complete package. He is an amazing mark for his size, creative at the stoppages, a booming kick on either side and has fantastic goal sense. He has the rare ability to turn a game with his sublime skills and inspirational marks.
Brett can play in the centre and will win a lot of clearances, but is also very capable of holding down a spot in the forward line. He has the ability to kick up to 60 metres on his right foot and is pretty capable on his left. His pace is extremely good, and he has good endurance as well. From all reports Deledio has a good head on his shoulders and is a natural leader, captaining Australia in the International Rules series this year. Brett is also pretty good defensively.
Weaknesses: Very few really. Can struggle to shake a hard tag, and can play in fits and starts rather than dominating an entire match.
Footydraft.com comment: This kid looks to be an absolute star in the making. Has all the tools, is versatile and just looks a class above. Will surely be selected in the top 3 picks.
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Lids was 17 yoa when drafted to Richmond during the 2004 draft.
will he still be at Richmond in the end of 5 more years? :pray
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He has the rare ability to turn a game with his sublime skills and inspirational marks.
why, :banghead dont, :banghead we, :banghead see, :banghead this, :banghead happen? :banghead
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Never seen Lids kick the ball stright or take a strong mark?
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I have, just havn't seen him turn a game.
He has all the attributes to be one of the elites, but ..........?
In fairness to him though, he did kick a long goal just after the the long delay when Roberts was taken off against sydney.
Had a bit of luck but you want that first goal after a break like that.
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Have seen him kick some great goals and play well in the forward line eg a couple of years ago against Collingwood but have never seen him really dominate a game. Hopefully this year is the turning point
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Deledio in a good side would be a dead set superstar. Theres been very few to help him lift Richmond- very few!
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Have seen him kick some great goals and play well in the forward line eg a couple of years ago against Collingwood but have never seen him really dominate a game. Hopefully this year is the turning point
nope he will show his colors when he gets bided on in the next couple of years by a good side
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Happy Birthday Soft !
:)
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Discusting thread title and I can't believe Lids cops more crap on this forum than Edwards and a few others, amazing.. >:(
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Best player in our team by a long way. Is the best by foot and a great grab. We need another 21 of him in the team. Takes the best tag week in week out. Just needs to work on his one on one defensive game. If he had support around him to take the continuous pressure off his shoulders he would reach his potential. Right now he is a victim of a crap team where at 18 he was almost our best player upon being drafted. Sad.
He doesn't deserve the crap he receives by some on here. He, like Richo before him, doesn't deserve to shoulder the Tiger supporters frustration of the whole team. He is only one player and can only give us under 5% of a full teams effort. It has to be disheartening when you are continously let down by those around you.
Happy birthday Lids
Stripes
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Best player in our team by a long way. Is the best by foot and a great grab. We need another 21 of him in the team. Takes the best tag week in week out. Just needs to work on his one on one defensive game. If he had support around him to take the continuous pressure off his shoulders he would reach his potential. Right now he is a victim of a crap team where at 18 he was almost our best player upon being drafted. Sad.
He doesn't deserve the crap he receives by some on here. He, like Richo before him, doesn't deserve to shoulder the Tiger supporters frustration of the whole team. He is only one player and can only give us under 5% of a full teams effort. It has to be disheartening when you are continously let down by those around you.
Happy birthday Lids
Stripes
Dead right, too few are left to shoulder the total work load for the team, making them look bad in the process because it's just not possible. Deledio is the main person that shoulders the work load but gets crap for it.
Good on you Lids hope you had a great day.
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Good on you Lids hope you had a great day.
Hope he didn't read the posts on OER. :-[
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Have seen him kick some great goals and play well in the forward line eg a couple of years ago against Collingwood but have never seen him really dominate a game. Hopefully this year is the turning point
nope he will show his colors when he gets bided on in the next couple of years by a good side
with the amount of BS he cops from his own suppporters I wouldn't blame him
fair dinkum
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I agree Tony. :-[
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Discusting thread title and I can't believe Lids cops more crap on this forum than Edwards and a few others, amazing.. >:(
they are like Deledio too!
however they are not on half a million a year
>:(
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Good on you Lids hope you had a great day.
Hope he didn't read the posts on OER. :-[
Well a great day before and after the game.. ::)
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Discusting thread title and I can't believe Lids cops more crap on this forum than Edwards and a few others, amazing.. >:(
they are like Deledio too!
however they are not on half a million a year
>:(
The others shouldn't even be on $1.50 a year and how do you actually know his wage, plese don't tell me the media.
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As the old saying goes it's hard to soar like an eagle when you work with turkeys.
Typical also that some of our supporters attack our few decent footballers because they can't lift a side half full of duds and half full of kids ::).
If you want to lay blame look off-field at those over the past 10 years who had no idea about recruiting, rebuilding and how the draft system works and didn't put a decent list together by now before and after around Lids and the handful of good young players we have.
2000: Only Newy left
2001: zip
2002: zip
2003: all picks below 50 gone
2005: zip
2007: just 3 picks and only 2 left
2008: just 2 kids picked up
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As the old saying goes it's hard to soar like an eagle when you work with turkeys.
Typical also that some of our supporters attack our few decent footballers because they can't lift a side half full of duds and half full of kids ::).
If you want to lay blame look off-field at those over the past 10 years who had no idea about recruiting, rebuilding and how the draft system works and didn't put a decent list together by now before and after around Lids and the handful of good young players we have.
2000: Only Newy left
2001: zip
2002: zip
2003: all picks below 50 gone
2005: zip
2007: just 3 picks and only 2 left
2008: just 2 kids picked up
Pretty well summed up MT... glasses down.... :clapping
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Never seen Lids kick the ball stright or take a strong mark?
he did in his first yr
his 1st yr was his best where he played with is instincts, and even used teh barrell quite often, break lines with his pace , take strong marks....................has not done mch of this since
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Discusting thread title and I can't believe Lids cops more crap on this forum than Edwards and a few others, amazing.. >:(
guys like edwards have les than half of deledios ability, and they do stuff up heaps, but thats because they have a go and try, and r noty afraid to stuff uo
deledio is soft because he always plays "safe" never backs his skill and pace to take risks and take th egame on like judd and ablett
cos he is afraid to make a mistake so he plays safe
deledio needs to have the balls to take the game on, his fear of failure/making mistakes is his weakness
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I have, just havn't seen him turn a game.
It was only against Melbourne, 2 years ago, but he was on fire in the second quarter. He kills them in the centre square.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMRr02JVWxo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5srOzLlOX6U
Even Oakley-Nicholls looked good in that quarter!! :rollin
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spot on stripes with your remarks about brett
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I have, just havn't seen him turn a game.
It was only against Melbourne, 2 years ago, but he was on fire in the second quarter. He kills them in the centre square.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMRr02JVWxo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5srOzLlOX6U
Even Oakley-Nicholls looked good in that quarter!! :rollin
thats the problem
we know he can do it
he just does not do it enough and i belive its due to lack of confidence in himself , his team and his fear of making a mistake
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Best player in our team by a long way. Is the best by foot and a great grab. We need another 21 of him in the team. Takes the best tag week in week out. Just needs to work on his one on one defensive game. If he had support around him to take the continuous pressure off his shoulders he would reach his potential. Right now he is a victim of a crap team where at 18 he was almost our best player upon being drafted. Sad.
He doesn't deserve the crap he receives by some on here. He, like Richo before him, doesn't deserve to shoulder the Tiger supporters frustration of the whole team. He is only one player and can only give us under 5% of a full teams effort. It has to be disheartening when you are continously let down by those around you.
Happy birthday Lids
Stripes
Very well said Striper.
This thread title is a disgrace.
Mods please edit it. >:(
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The title of the thread was a joke in regards to the comments some people on here make in regards to Deledio ...
From 17-22 yoa he has played something like 110 of a possible 113 AFL matches. Only missing a couple weeks with a knee injury that at one stage looked like it would be 6-12 months.
Deledio is not soft or weak.
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Its insulting some people on here barrack for my football team.
It really is.
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Whats with the feral thread title? We got troll supporters of other teams creeping in with the humans or something?
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I agree, it's a disgrace this has been left unmoderated. :banghead
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F L M A OOOO@ Thread title.
Best ever Bentleigh. :lol :scream
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Maybe this has already been covered, and excuse me if it has, but can someone explain to me why Deledio isn't playing midfield instead of half-back? The commentators tonight were wondering the same.
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Maybe he is not an in and under type and they are utilising his speed and kicking ability in a role similar to Luke Hodge.
ATM we have Cotch, Martin and Foley as all good hard contested footy winners plus you generally play a tagger like Jacko in there as well.
So in short with the way our mids are developing he is better utilised elsewhere
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this bloke has great ability on both sides of the body. Pumped the ball off his left at least 55 & other times off his left hits targets.
Needs to be used up on the half forward line as a attacker
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Will go back into the middle once Connors has served his suspension.
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He was moved into the middle tonight and helped get us back into the game after Essendon's quick start
Playing a Hodge/Goddard type role
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Maybe this has already been covered, and excuse me if it has, but can someone explain to me why Deledio isn't playing midfield instead of half-back? The commentators tonight were wondering the same.
The commentators are poo stirers, they know exactly why Deledio is playing in the backline, but it is an opportunity to have a dig at our club when we aren't doing so well in a game in the midfeild. Brett Deledio is being used in a Luke Hodge type roll at the hawks, he can set up the play from the backline, why? becausehe has sublime disposal, he is quick so there fore he can run and carry, break lines and cause some real damage, but he can also get into the mid feild just like Hodge does when things go wrong in there and that's what happened tonight ans he did his job.
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Maybe this has already been covered, and excuse me if it has, but can someone explain to me why Deledio isn't playing midfield instead of half-back? The commentators tonight were wondering the same.
The commentators are poo stirers, they know exactly why Deledio is playing in the backline, but it is an opportunity to have a dig at our club when we aren't doing so well in a game in the midfeild. Brett Deledio is being used in a Luke Hodge type roll at the hawks, he can set up the play from the backline, why? becausehe has sublime disposal, he is quick so there fore he can run and carry, break lines and cause some real damage, but he can also get into the mid feild just like Hodge does when things go wrong in there and that's what happened tonight ans he did his job.
Spot on.
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Maybe this has already been covered, and excuse me if it has, but can someone explain to me why Deledio isn't playing midfield instead of half-back? The commentators tonight were wondering the same.
The commentators are poo stirers, they know exactly why Deledio is playing in the backline, but it is an opportunity to have a dig at our club when we aren't doing so well in a game in the midfeild. Brett Deledio is being used in a Luke Hodge type roll at the hawks, he can set up the play from the backline, why? becausehe has sublime disposal, he is quick so there fore he can run and carry, break lines and cause some real damage, but he can also get into the mid feild just like Hodge does when things go wrong in there and that's what happened tonight ans he did his job.
Spot on.
doubly so,
and when connors gets back we should still leave him there, we need more than 1 or 2 good ball users and runners in defence
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why can't he play on the wing or half forward?
he is more dangerous on the half forward line!
:)
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why can't he play on the wing or half forward?
he is more dangerous on the half forward line!
:)
because we need someone who can run carry and kick playing in defence.
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Deledio has the best efficiency rate at the club either left or right foot and sets up play brilliantly with his skill.
Keep him where he is. Was real impressed with his game last night. Top notch. :thumbsup
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why can't he play on the wing or half forward?
he is more dangerous on the half forward line!
:)
why do most teams play their best ball users and best runners predominantly off HB? like carlton with gibbs & scotland, hawks with hodge, saints with goddard, swans with malceski, kennelly, shaw, adelaide with edwards/mcleod etc etc etc
a strong HB line is incredibly important
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How bad is deledio injury ?
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How bad is deledio injury ?
Triple M said he had to go the opposite when shaking Richo's hand after the game!
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Best shape yet, says Deledio
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Tue 03 August, 2010
RICHMOND defender Brett Deledio says season 2010 is the most positive he has experienced at the club.
Deledio was taken by the Tigers as the first pick in the 2004 NAB AFL Draft, and quickly justified that selection by winning the Rising Star award and the AFL Players' Association Best First-Year Player Award in 2005.
But good times since have been few and far between. Richmond went into this season as one of the bottom-ranked teams and lost its first nine matches. In round four, one bookmaker took the extraordinary step of paying out bets on the Tigers to win the wooden spoon.
However, the side stuck to the plan under new coach Damien Hardwick and, after defeating Port Adelaide in round 10, has gone on to register five more wins to sit 14th on the ladder.
The form turnaround, coupled with Richmond's impressive array of young talent, has Deledio looking forward to a bright future at Punt Rd.
“Some of the young players who are coming through - in Dustin Martin, Ben Nason, all these guys who are playing great footy - you can see the development in them, game in, game out,” he said at St Kilda beach on Tuesday morning.
“They bring an enthusiasm to the side, and it makes it more enjoyable to see them enjoying their footy. To be able to sing the song, and have Mitch Farmer pour Powerade over everyone - it’s good fun.”
Coach Damien Hardwick moved Deledio from the midfield to help captain Chris Newman give some leadership across half-back, and he said he was loving being part of a tight back six.
“Playing down there with Chris Newman and Dan Connors off the half-back line - and we’ve got Kel Moore, Will Thursfield and Lukey McGuane, this sort of guys - we're starting to develop a strong little unit down there.
“A couple of weeks ago I think we were one of the harder defensive lines to score against, but after playing Collingwood I think that slipped a little bit."
Deledio did not rule out returning to the midfield but said he believed his future may involve playing a utility role of the sort held down by the current Brownlow Medal favourite.
“It depends on what Damien sees in the future for me, whether I go back into the midfield to play," he said.
“I suppose with him coming from Hawthorn, I could play a similar sort of role to Luke Hodge, where he goes back and goes in the midfield and goes forward as well."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/99561/default.aspx
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Brett Deledio aims to be next Luke Hodge
* Rebecca Williams
* From: Herald Sun
* August 03, 2010 1:20PM
RICHMOND playmaker Brett Deledio is aiming to be the Tigers' version of Hawthorn superstar Luke Hodge.
Deledio has been playing more across half-back while he was enjoying his role in defence, he said today coach Damien Hardwick could use him in more of a utility role.
"At the moment I am really enjoying staying there. It depends what Damien sees for me in the future for me whether I go back in the midfield," Deledio said.
"I suppose him (Hardwick) coming from Hawthorn, I could play a similar sort of role to Luke Hodge where he goes back, goes into the midfield and goes forward as well.
"But at the moment I am enjoying playing in the backline.''
Deledio said this season was the most positive he had experienced in his time at Punt Rd.
"Some of the young fellas that are coming through - Dustin Martin, Ben Nason and all these sort of guys that are playing great footy - you see the development in them game in, game out,'' Deledio said.
"It's great. They bring an enthusiasm to the side and it makes it more enjoyable to see them enjoying their footy and to be able to sing the song and have Mitch Farmer pour Powerade over everyone, it's good fun."
Deledio gave little away, though, when asked if he would like to see veteran Ben Cousins play on again next season.
"It's up to the list management. I've got the same old line as what we've been told to give,'' he said.
"Ben's great fella, he always brings plenty to the table. I get along really well with him, I'm not giving anything away.''
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledio-aims-to-be-next-luke-hodge/story-e6frf9jf-1225900553730
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Not sure how she gets "Brett Delidio aims to be next luke hodge" out of that interview?
B. I. M. B. O
bimbo was her name-o.
Deledio gave little away, though, when asked if he would like to see veteran Ben Cousins play on again next season.
"It's up to the list management. I've got the same old line as what we've been told to give,'' he said.
Brilliant! :lol
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Not sure how she gets "Brett Delidio aims to be next luke hodge" out of that interview?
B. I. M. B. O
bimbo was her name-o.
Deledio gave little away, though, when asked if he would like to see veteran Ben Cousins play on again next season.
"It's up to the list management. I've got the same old line as what we've been told to give,'' he said.
Brilliant! :lol
yeah Im sure the media manager would be wrapt with that ::)
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yeah Im sure the media manager would be wrapt with that ::)
Yeah not smart.
Lids has had an amazing season but I don't think he'll ever be skipper.
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I hope that is based on more than that comment because honesty is the best policy, who believes the spin anyway?
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Not sure how she gets "Brett Delidio aims to be next luke hodge" out of that interview?
B. I. M. B. O
bimbo was her name-o.
Deledio gave little away, though, when asked if he would like to see veteran Ben Cousins play on again next season.
"It's up to the list management. I've got the same old line as what we've been told to give,'' he said.
Brilliant! :lol
journos dont right the headlines, just the articles
the editors write the headlines so u cant call her a bimbo
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Not sure how she the editor gets "Brett Delidio aims to be next luke hodge" out of that interview?
B. I. M. B. O
bimbo was their name-o.
Deledio gave little away, though, when asked if he would like to see veteran Ben Cousins play on again next season.
"It's up to the list management. I've got the same old line as what we've been told to give,'' he said.
Brilliant! :lol
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Lids back with avengence today after being heavily tagged the past few weeks. Some of his footpasses today were absolutely pinpoint even over distance. One of his best games for the club IMO from a team effectiveness p.o.v. Very creative setting up attacks rather than just racking up stats across halfback.
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Better than buddy :cheers
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Emma Quayle on Lids in today's Age.....
According to Champion Data, Green (2004), Mark LeCras (2009) Darren Jolly (2009), Nick Malceski (2007) and Brett Deledio (2009) have all had better, more influential seasons than they've had during 2010. All, though, have found ways to follow their first really good season with an as-good, if not better one — evidence of the hard work it can take to make incremental improvements and turn good to very good, and very good to great.
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A similar case at Richmond is Brett Deledio, although, as assistant coach Wayne Campbell said, when you look back over the Tiger's first six years, he has never allowed himself room for the sort of dramatic leap that teammate Jack Riewoldt, for instance, has made this season.
Where time, maturity and work on the tiniest nuances of his timing, leap and positioning — not to mention a heap of goals — have probably secured Riewoldt's spot on the forward line in the All-Australian team, Deledio was the Rising Star in his debut year, played two near-full seasons after that, won a best-and-fairest in his fourth year (2008), another in his fifth, and has this year earned his second All-Australian nomination (after 2008). He missed out on nomination last year after settling into the midfield during the second half of the year. This year, said Campbell, he had done exactly the same thing, only at half-back, where he was switched to after three games.
"Playing in the one spot has helped him, and that was the case in the second half of last year too," Campbell said. "He's played his best footy in the last year-and-a-half, but he's been a very, very good player basically since he started. Maybe that means it takes longer to get some recognition, but he was elite in the second half of last year and he's followed on from that.
"You look at someone like Nathan Buckley, and in his fifth year he was probably as good as he was in his 10th year, because he couldn't train any harder, he could only train smarter. He became a better player, but the jumps were probably smaller, whereas someone like Gary Ablett was a flighty forward pocket who started to work hard and became an elite midfielder. Brett's more of the former, I reckon. He's always been a really hard worker on the track, but in the last year-and-a-half he's probably figured out how to be a more consistent player come game day."
Deledio has bided his time ...
Full article here:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-ateam-20100911-1560z.html
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Tiger proud to call Kyabram home
Marc McGowan
Shepparton News
Friday, 4th March 2011
Tonight’s AFL Challenge match between Richmond and Hawthorn will be just like the old days for two-time Tigers best and fairest winner Brett Deledio.
Not only will Deledio be back playing at Shepparton’s Deakin Reserve, but he will also be making the half-hour commute from his parents’ Kyabram home for the game.
The 23-year-old made the trip from Melbourne yesterday afternoon a day earlier than his teammates as he prepares to make his pre-season debut.
A minor left-ankle injury delayed Deledio’s return to competitive football, but he said he is now ‘‘ready to go’’.
‘‘I just need to get a run under my belt,’’ he said.
‘‘I had a little ankle niggle, but it’s all good now.’’
Deledio enjoyed an outstanding 2010 season. He made the extended All-Australian squad for the second time, finishing third in Richmond’s best and fairest award and averaging 25.3 disposals as a specialist half-back flanker.
But the 2004 No. 1 draft pick is interested in team success rather than more individual accolades this year.
‘‘I don’t tend to worry about those things; I just do what Dimma (coach Damien Hardwick) tells me to and it tends to work out for itself,’’ Deledio said.
‘‘It would be nice to play some finals. We still only won six games last year, so it’s not anything to hang your hat on.
‘‘I don’t want to put a number or figure on how many games we’ll win, but we’ll give a few teams a scare with how we play.
‘‘We just want to be competitive each week.’’
Deledio is good friends with Kyabram champion Paul Newman and the club’s new reserves coach Zane Coventry, but said he was more likely to watch his brother and housemate Matt and sister Sheridan play for Murray league club Tongala this season.
Matt previously played for VFL side Port Melbourne, but will be a full-time member of the Blues as they aim to improve on last year’s three-win campaign.
Deledio remains proud of his Kyabram roots despite the AFL’s increasing professionalism meaning he doesn’t get back as often as he would like.
‘‘I’m very proud to be a country kid and I love getting into the city boys,’’ he said with a laugh.
‘‘The country boys are always more level-headed and more well-rounded.’’
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Tiger Brett Deledio's small poppy syndrome
Mike Sheahan
From: Herald Sun
April 15, 2011
NATHAN Brown left the Western Bulldogs after a wooden-spoon season (2003) in pursuit of success, settling on Richmond, which was to finish last the following year.
He spent six years at Richmond without playing a final. He knows the bottom-team syndrome better than most.
That's why the former star forward is so empathetic towards and publicly supportive of Richmond's Brett Deledio.
Brown told the Herald Sun yesterday: "If Deledio had been drafted to a Geelong or Collingwood, we would be talking about him in the same regard as (Joel) Selwood or (Scott) Pendlebury.
"I see it similar to Brendon Goddard, much maligned early in his career with a struggling St Kilda to become one of the game's elite, and a prototype for modern AFL with a powerhouse St Kilda."
Former Richmond teammate Matthew Richardson agrees.
"I don't want to talk about individuals, but a very good player in a poor team would be a lot better player in a great team," he said."It's much harder to be consistent when you're getting beaten by 10 goals every second week."
The champion full-forward cited Richmond great Dale Weightman as the perfect example of his theory.
"The 'Flea' was a champion at Richmond when they weren't a great team and, every time he played for Victoria, he seemed to get even better. He always played better when he was around the champions of the other sides," Richardson said.
It's an intriguing debate as Deledio continues to polarise opinion. Is he simply the most talented player in a poor team? Does he impose himself enough as his team's best player?
Or, is it impossible to command elite status in a team that seems doomed to the bottom end of the ladder?
Given his history as a No. 1 draft pick (2004), he has plenty of critics, yet Brown, Richardson and others at Richmond are staunch supporters. Brown and Richardson know the frustrations of playing in poor teams, surrounded by players who just can't consistently perform at the standard required at AFL level.
Richardson played in three finals in 282 games in 17 seasons; Selwood, 22, has played in 12 finals and two premiership teams in four completed seasons.
Even after 131 games and three rounds into his seventh season, it is hard to rank Deledio. He has two best-and-fairests, a record neither Selwood nor Pendlebury can match, but they have premierships and play in teams where best-and-fairest votes are rather more hotly contested.
Both Selwood and Pendlebury have been All-Australian.
My criticism of Deledio is two-fold: the gap between his best and worst is too wide, and he doesn't impose himself on games in the balance.
So far this year, he had a quiet start against Carlton - 19 possessions, four contested; two in the first quarter - a best afield against St Kilda playing on Goddard, then a poor game against Hawthorn - 17 possessions, seven contested; two in the first quarter.
For some reason, he has a history of poor starts, when the opening minutes are so important to a team with low self-belief.
He has kicked three goals in the past 25 games.
Yes, hard to kick goals playing as a sweeper in defence, but he has had time in the midfield, where he should be playing every week.
Perhaps Deledio should take his lead from Chris Judd, who arrived at Carlton after the Blues finished 15th in 2007.
He has single-handedly dragged them to 11th and then finals footy in each of the past two years.
While Judd has a better support crew, he has been a brilliant leader. Deledio can announce his intentions at the MCG tonight against the toughest opposition in the game.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/small-poppy-syndrome/story-fn7shz1t-1226039428661
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If you want Lids to learn about himself truly as a player - let him go head to head with that machine Swan. He seems to step up to the plate when asked to go direct against the oppositions gun and seems to cruise when on lesser players - One thing I loved abt Jade Rawlings he challenged him each and every week
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Mike should write more of these articles. You couldn't fault Lids' game last night. A shame we don't have more than one of him to play him in defence, midfield and as a half-forward all at the same time.
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Lids turns 24 y.o. today :birthday :thumbsup :cheers
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Lids turns 24 y.o. today :birthday :thumbsup :cheers
Given our list makeup he's a 'veteran' of the side at 24.
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Richmond keeps lid on Brett Deledio move to midfield
Tony Sheahan
Sunday Herald Sun
April 24, 2011
RICHMOND has defended its handling of Brett Deledio in the lead-up to the must-win clash against North Melbourne.
The Tigers are adamant Deledio must do more before he moves into the midfield on a permanent basis.
''If 'Lids' (Brett Deledio) can start focusing on what he needs to do as a defender, that will help him become a better player than what he is in the midfield,'' Tigers assistant coach Danny Daly said.
''That will make him more dangerous. Look, we understand where the media and the supporters are coming from, but we've actually got a plan in place and that's why we do it.''
Deledio has frustrated fans and coaches alike since he was drafted in 2004.
''He probably should be (Richmond's best player),'' Daly said.
''He has been in the system now long enough now to become our best and most consistent player.
''He is a terrific player, terrific person and he wants to be the best and wants the club to be the best, but as we become a better side and get more game time into blokes like Jake Batchelor, Reece Conca and others, then that will allow Lids to come into the midfield.
''But in saying that, we do have a pretty good midfield in Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, and `Axel' (Nathan) Foley, and we also have Shaun Grigg and Daniel Jackson, so who do you drop out of that midfield?
''So as we get better, Dusty (Dustin Martin) and Cotchy (Trent Cotchin) will be able to push forward, which will give us more flexibility with Lids.''
Deledio will be assisted in the back half against a winless, but hungry Kangaroos outfit, with Alex Rance and Luke McGuane to return from suspension.
''We have to take that out of club, the undisciplined stuff. We don't like to see that happen,'' Daly said, referring to Rance and McGuane.
Ben Nason has also been included for the must-win game, while Jeromey Webberly remains on standby.
The Tigers and Kangaroos are winless and languish at the bottom of the ladder.
''If you look at the ladder, there is a great opportunity for whoever wins today to come back to within the pack,'' Daly said.
''The next couple of weeks are big for us, because if we can get over North Melbourne, we've then got Brisbane and Fremantle which are good challenges for us.
''Whereas, whoever loses, a bit of heat comes on them.''
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-keeps-lid-on-brett-deledio-move-to-midfield/story-e6frf9jf-1226043855914
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Lids is coming up on Lou's Handball on the Sunday Footy Show after the ad break
Up against Melbourne's Matthew Bate
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Lids is coming up on Lou's Handball on the Sunday Footy Show after the ad break
Up against Melbourne's Matthew Bate
I missed it - did Lids win?
I saw Lids though on the panel. Dermie asked Lids, "if you had to finish your career now for some unknown unexpected reason would you be happy with what you've got our of your career?", Lids answered yes. Really a catch 22 question - if Lids answers yes like he did then the media can say he doesn't have high ambitions such as finals/flag; if he had answered no then they'd probably try to make out Lids is unhappy at a bottom side like Richmond.
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Nope he lost, Bate hit a 10 with his last shot to get it
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I thought Lids did a much better job at hard ball gets last night. Seemed to going much harder at the contest.
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Lids is coming up on Lou's Handball on the Sunday Footy Show after the ad break
Up against Melbourne's Matthew Bate
I missed it - did Lids win?
I saw Lids though on the panel. Dermie asked Lids, "if you had to finish your career now for some unknown unexpected reason would you be happy with what you've got our of your career?", Lids answered yes. Really a catch 22 question - if Lids answers yes like he did then the media can say he doesn't have high ambitions such as finals/flag; if he had answered no then they'd probably try to make out Lids is unhappy at a bottom side like Richmond.
Yeah what a stupid frekkin ? Dermie is a fool and I don't think lids was too impressed either.
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I thought Lids did a much better job at hard ball gets last night. Seemed to going much harder at the contest.
7 tackles and some strong spoils
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Richmond desperate to retain star midfielder Brett Deledio
Tony Sheahan
From: Sunday Herald Sun
May 08, 2011
RICHMOND has begun negotiations on a new contract with Brett Deledio in a desperate bid to ward off Greater Western Sydney.
Deledio's management confirmed an approach by the AFL's 18th team, but refused to reveal details.
Richmond is desperate to keep its dual best-and-fairest winner, with the club kicking off negotiations on a new contract, despite 18 months to run on his existing deal.
"I have spoken to the Tigers and that's all I'll say," Deledio's manager Anthony McConville said.
McConville refused to discuss the GWS approach.
Deledio becomes a restricted free agent at the end of next season, which means the opportunity for other clubs to sign him escalates dramatically.
Richmond would be forced to honour the monetary amount if they were to keep him.
GWS has been given carte blanche to talk to whomever it sees fit, with the Giants' window of opportunity beginning November 1 this year and running until late December.
Deledio, 24, should be entering the prime of his career. He could become one of the AFL's highest paid stars when he falls out of contract, with speculation his next deal could push as high as $1 million a season should he move.
Former teammate Nathan Brown said Deledio would be considered in the same ilk as Collingwood's Scott Pendlebury or Geelong's Joel Selwood, had he been drafted to either of those clubs.
Matthew Richardson offered a similar view: "A very good player in a poor team would be a lot better player in a great team. It's much harder to be consistent when you're getting beaten by 10 goals every second week."
Richmond officials did not return calls on Deledio.
But the Tigers have previously defended their use of him across halfback.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-desperate-to-retain-star-midfielder/story-e6frf9jf-1226051760035
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Desperate? Not by us surely. GWS are desperate wishful thinkers if they think Lids, after going through all the hard years to finally be part of a young team now on the way up, will go back to re-doing another hard 5 years down the bottom of the ladder with a new franchise. That would make sure he would see no finals nor success.
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Nothing article.
Move along HUN.
We won.
Here's a box of tissues.
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Nothing article.
Move along HUN.
We won.
Here's a box of tissues.
beautifully said :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
Stick that up your arse hearald sun
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I'll be happier knowing he has re-signed with us.
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I'll be happier knowing he has re-signed with us.
He's still got 18 months left and we are already looking at the extension
If it was up at the end of this year then you'd have a point, but it's not
If Lids is smart he'll hold out until the new salary cap is finalised
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I'll be happier knowing he has re-signed with us.
He's still got 18 months left and we are already looking at the extension
If it was up at the end of this year then you'd have a point, but it's not
If Lids is smart he'll hold out until the new salary cap is finalised
Why is it not a valid point? I know it's 18 months and I know that GWS have already approached his management. All I said was I'll be happy knowing he has re-signed, not when, not for how much, not anything except I'll be happy when he re-signs. Sheesh.
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They aren't allowed to approach a player during the season, only in the window around trade time last year
So if they enquired it was 6 months ago
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I'll be happier knowing he has re-signed with us.
He's still got 18 months left and we are already looking at the extension
If it was up at the end of this year then you'd have a point, but it's not
If Lids is smart he'll hold out until the new salary cap is finalised
Why is it not a valid point? I know it's 18 months and I know that GWS have already approached his management. All I said was I'll be happy knowing he has re-signed, not when, not for how much, not anything except I'll be happy when he re-signs. Sheesh.
I look at it this way. This is a scare mongering article by Mike's boy Tony. Pathetic article to be truthful
Facts are GWS tried last year to get Lids. They approached his management then. Does the article actually say they've "enquired" more recently? Nope
Lids ignored them then and signed a new contract that ties him to us until the end of 2012.
He has 18 months to go on his current deal and there isn't a doubt in my mind that Brett Deledio will remain at and stay loyal to the Richmond Football Club.
He can see we are heading in the right direction, he wants to play finals, he is a leader of our Club and bloody good one BTW, he is a Tiger and GWS are living in "la-la" land if they think he will going anywhere. May I even be as bold as to say we (the fans) just need to have some faith ;D
I will repeat pathetic article by the HUN, scare mongering... :wallywink
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Deledios been with us since November 2004 when we drafted him. He's seeing us go from being poo to being a real football club again under Hardwicks leadership. Theres no way IMHO that at 24 yo he will leave to do another 5 years of hard labor. He's come to far with us to leave now.
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Lids is the alpha of all alpha males on the list, he's also socially central to all players and cliques.
He loves the club more than any other player. He won't be going anywhere.
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Hahaha if we had lost yesterday like many expected us too would this piece of gutter journalism have graced our breakfast table this morning? Think not, don't pay attention and the insolent child will soon stop.
That being said I expect a Caro debt article or a Barrett the problems that still exist at RFC article in the lead up to our hugely significant match for both sides this week that some may hope distracts us. Call me cynical. :-\
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Hahaha if we had lost yesterday like many expected us too would this piece of gutter journalism have graced our breakfast table this morning? Think not, don't pay attention and the insolent child will soon stop.
That being said I expect a Caro debt article or a Barrett the problems that still exist at RFC article in the lead up to our hugely significant match for both sides this week that some may hope distracts us. Call me cynical. :-\
No, your on the money. The life blood of the media is "controversy", if they can't find it they will attempt to manufacture it themselves at the expense of any individual or entity.
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And it will be manufactued this week for sure, this clash against the doggies is even more important than last week imo.
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I look at it this way. This is a scare mongering article by Mike's boy Tony. Pathetic article to be truthful
Facts are GWS tried last year to get Lids. They approached his management then. Does the article actually say they've "enquired" more recently? Nope
Lids ignored them then and signed a new contract that ties him to us until the end of 2012.
He has 18 months to go on his current deal and there isn't a doubt in my mind that Brett Deledio will remain at and stay loyal to the Richmond Football Club.
He can see we are heading in the right direction, he wants to play finals, he is a leader of our Club and bloody good one BTW, he is a Tiger and GWS are living in "la-la" land if they think he will going anywhere. May I even be as bold as to say we (the fans) just need to have some faith ;D
I will repeat pathetic article by the HUN, scare mongering... :wallywink
I hate to upset anybody on my first post here, but Lid's contract to the end of 2012 doesn't protect us from GWS.
Under GWS's draft concessions, they are allowed access to up to 16 uncontracted players over 2 consecutive seasons, 2011 and 2012.
That means that if they don't take 16 uncontracted players at the end of this season, players like Lids, who come out of contract in October 2012 are a legal target.
Players need to be signed up into 2013 to be off limits.
RT.
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I hate to upset anybody on my first post here, but Lid's contract to the end of 2012 doesn't protect us from GWS.
Under GWS's draft concessions, they are allowed access to up to 16 uncontracted players over 2 consecutive seasons, 2011 and 2012.
That means that if they don't take 16 uncontracted players at the end of this season, players like Lids, who come out of contract in October 2012 are a legal target.
Players need to be signed up into 2013 to be off limits.
RT.
Firstly welcome RT
I am not disputing that under the concessions GWS a player like Lids may be a target but I just reckon:
1/ the article was just scare mongering. It gave nothing concrete with regard to facts, was it based on present events, past events or just the writers assumptions. I think the fact that the club is not commenting is the best part of the whole thing because IMHO it means they ar enot in a panic
2/ Now we are on the upward curve I cannot see Lids leaving, actually forget about the upward curve I just cannot see him leaving
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I hate to upset anybody on my first post here...
That'll change ;D
Welcome aboard :gotigers
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gws have to target players like deledio. Otherwise they wouldnt be doing their job.
I am more concerned about lids moving to another melbourne club like the cats or the saints to be honest.
If lids went to gws he could concievably never play a final in his career, Its not going to happen as long as we continue to improve.
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When deledio was drafted (end of
2003) my
understanding was he was seen as the talent on an otherwise
talentless list and the idea was to build waves of players under him.
Now years later when he has seen so many dark days at
richmond why would he now walk away?
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Looked like young deledio/ young Judd when he uses his pace.
Deledio speed is a weapon. Great when puts on the turbos
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Looked like young deledio/ young Judd when he uses his pace.
Deledio speed is a weapon. Great when puts on the turbos
How good was it when he took off from half back in second gear with a Bears player about to mow him down from behind but Lids just hit the f***ing turbo boost !!.. blew him away and took three bounces up the guts and pumped it forward.
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Lids was one who got us going in the 2nd quarter as he had a hand in setting up most of our goals in that quarter. He seems to be one of those players who can start slowly but then gets better and better as the game goes along. He was burning it in the last quarter.
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Looked like young deledio/ young Judd when he uses his pace.
Deledio speed is a weapon. Great when puts on the turbos
How good was it when he took off from half back in second gear with a Bears player about to mow him down from behind but Lids just hit the f***ing turbo boost !!.. blew him away and took three bounces up the guts and pumped it forward.
I think the Brisbane player was Banfield. Banfield is a very decent runner, It was great to watch. Deledio showed major leadership over the first 2 quarters when we were under the pump.
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Was so pleasing to see him run and carry long distances haven't seen it since his early years and I loved it.
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see how much better he and the team looks when he is the release player out of the backline!! - I dont know if it was brisbanes poor marking or the fact our back six is starting to gel and get smarter about releasing Lids but last night was one of the few times Lids was kicking a lot more than handballing and was enjoying plenty of run and bounce. I hope its the latter bc that was by far the highest impact 20 possession game Ive seen from Lids. Hope we see more of that than the usual 45-55% kick to hball ratio Lids has. Hes one of the best carriers and kicks in the game use him like last night more
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When will Deledio just play ONE position coaches?
He is a seven year player who needs to have more impact!
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Lids' press conference today up in Cairns...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/372281/brett-deledio-press-conference-cairns/
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Deledio back to the future
By Paul Daffey
Wed 20 Jul, 2011
BRETT Deledio has won two Richmond best and fairest awards, which means he must be a handy footballer. You wouldn't know it if you listened to the naysayers among Richmond fans and opposition fans over the course of this season.
According to Champion Data's statistics, Deledio's form is much the same has it has been since 2008, when he won the first of his successive best and fairest awards.
His average disposals over the past four seasons have been: 24.4 (2008), 25.2 (2009), 25.3 (2010) and 25.0 (2011).
His uncontested possession counts are much the same, as are his inside-50s. His clearances were down in 2010, which is the year he didn't win the best and fairest (Jack Reiwoldt did) but they've doubled to 2.8 per game this year.
If there is a knock on Deledio, it springs from the fact that the number of possessions has gone up across the board in recent seasons. To reflect that trend, Deledio should be closer to 30 average possessions.
But the biggest knock from fans seems to be that he's played at half-back rather than in the midfield. A player of his talent should be played more around the ball.
That's a coaching decision. Maybe he just serves the team better in the back half.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/119047/default.aspx
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Haven't noticed him copping that much from Tiges fans, so not sure WTF you're on about Paul.
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Haven't noticed him copping that much from Tiges fans, so not sure WTF you're on about Paul.
Agree JT, I reckon he cops itmore from the Mike Sheahans of the world than tiger fans.
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Haven't noticed him copping that much from Tiges fans, so not sure WTF you're on about Paul.
Agree JT, I reckon he cops itmore from the Mike Sheahans of the world than tiger fans.
It's just another shallow article by a journo who needs to fill a content quota. It barely has a conclusion
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From Robbo's 'The Tackle':
9. Smothers
Countless examples, ...., Two by Richmond's Brett Deledio in the final quarter yesterday which not helped ensure victory, but also dismissed critics who still believe Deledio doesn't like getting his shorts dirty.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/blues-deserve-an-mcg-final/story-fn5937w8-1226114984574
:thumbsup
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Lids rapping with others to promote Draftstar (AFL junior draft camps)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqKpPxty84M&feature=player_embedded
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Lids is now on twitter:
http://twitter.com/brettdeledio3
He also has a website:
http://http://brettdeledio.com.au/
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That website hasn't been updated since June last year ;)
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Lids is now on twitter...
http://twitter.com/BrettDeledio03
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Deledio's VO2 max test to test his endurance...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/402060/default.aspx
Lids says Edwards and Helbig have put on size since coming back.
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Need to borrow a cap?
Just ask Lids for one :o ....
(https://p.twimg.com/Ad8lrE6CEAAOcuV.jpg)
https://twitter.com/?photo_id=1#!/BrettDeledio03/status/134867935821959168/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/?photo_id=1#!/BrettDeledio03/status/134867935821959168/photo/1)
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Imelda Deledio
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Is Lids on twitter yet?? ;D
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Lids is now on twitter.
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do they test for that?
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No mention of Lids in the Herald-Sun story today about GWS now courting - and potentially signing - a host of AFL stars for 2013. Hopefully it stays that way.
"Possible GWS targets include Collingwood's Scott Pendlebury, St Kilda's Brendon Goddard, Essendon's Michael Hurley and North Melbourne's Ryan Bastinac."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/greater-western-sydney-hunting-afls-biggest-stars/story-e6frf9jf-1226200160013
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could everyone please relax
lids won't be going anywhere, but has quite rightly positioned himself to receive a nice payday with his next contract coinciding with free agency and gws' 2nd year of taking uncontracted players
having said as a restricted free agent there will be some stressful negotiations for our list manager(s)
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RICHMOND star Brett Deledio will return to the midfield next year after several seasons playing across the half-back line.
Coach Damien Hardwick said the recruitment of a number of quality ball users meant Deledio, 24, would get his wish to play in the middle.
"With the players who we've brought in - with the addition of Steven Morris, Brandon Ellis has come in there and we've got Bachar Houli and Matty Dea - we probably think Brett will play more midfield next year than he has previously," Hardwick said yesterday at the Richmond training camp in Tucson, Arizona.
"But the challenge is well and truly there. He would like to play midfield, and he's going to get his opportunity, but he needs to show that he's capable of playing with Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Nathan Foley and the players we've got in there.
"Because the one thing we have got is reasonable midfield depth, so he's got to earn his stripes.
"But the great thing about Brett ... as great a player as he is, he still wants to get better and that's exciting for our footy club. He's always ringing, he's always driven, he always wants to get better at everything he does.
"The scary thing about it is he's only 24 years of age, he's won two or three best-and-fairests and was probably a little bit stiff not to be All-Australian last year."
Deledio, a former No.1 draft pick, comes out of contract at the end of next season and is likely to attract interest from Greater Western Sydney, which has one more year to lure uncontracted players.
He also becomes eligible for free agency at the end of 2012 when the AFL introduces new rules regarding player movement.
Deledio will become a restricted free agent, forcing the Tigers to match the monetary offer of rival suitors if he was inclined to leave.
Earlier this year he said he wanted to finish his career at Richmond.
"Whenever the good players are out of contract you're always a little bit concerned," Hardwick said.
"But the thing about Brett is, he knows where we're going and he wants to be a winner. And I think that's where we are headed."
The Tigers yesterday took to the mountains surrounding Tucson for a four-hour hike before a weights session at the University of Arizona.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-brett-deledio-set-for-return-to-midfield/story-e6frf9jf-1226212661356
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:clapping :clapping :clapping
About bloody time....said it in another post, this is why IMO we picked up old mate at 15, Lids in the centre..... :thumbsup......Brownlow... :shh
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:clapping :clapping :clapping
About bloody time....said it in another post, this is why IMO we picked up old mate at 15, Lids in the centre..... :thumbsup......Brownlow... :shh
WATs 2 from 2. :thumbsup
We owe you a drink old son.
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:clapping :clapping :clapping
About bloody time....said it in another post, this is why IMO we picked up old mate at 15, Lids in the centre..... :thumbsup......Brownlow... :shh
WATs 2 from 2. :thumbsup
We owe you a drink old son.
Mate just about to celebrate with a wee glass of 18 year old....... :lol
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:cheers
Many things are starting to fall into place ;)
It does not guarantee anything, however They are all steps in the right direction and im sure many of us are very happy about this move in particular ;D
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Mate just about to celebrate with a wee glass of 18 year old....... :lol
:gobdrop
whatever floats your boat. at least they are of legal age
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gee, LOOK out opposition with the likes of Lids entering whats already a gilt edged midfield :shh
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Like everyone else I'm very excited about Lids going to the midfielder.
However, it remains to be seen if he can actually succeed in this position. Last 2 years Lids has been in the extended AA squad as a half bank flanker, and I suspect this is his best position. As a midfielder Lids doesn't read the play like a Cotchin, Mark Murphy, Selwood, etc...
i know this view won't be popular, and i really hope I'm wrong
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I am really concerned with Deledio's contract and don't understand why we are not in talks with his management to extend his contract?
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gee, LOOK out opposition with the likes of Lids entering whats already a gilt edged midfield :shh
Your lucky Im not a mod with your whoa partner and your gee wiz and gee gimmick ;D
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I am really concerned with Deledio's contract and don't understand why we are not in talks with his management to extend his contract?
coz they're too busy organising constitutional changes :lol
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:clapping :clapping :clapping
About bloody time....said it in another post, this is why IMO we picked up old mate at 15, Lids in the centre..... :thumbsup......Brownlow... :shh
WATs 2 from 2. :thumbsup
We owe you a drink old son.
Mate just about to celebrate with a wee glass of 18 year old....... :lol
Do you drink an 18 yo's wee with ice or neat?
Weelly nice either way hey WAT :thumbsup :shh
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Mate just about to celebrate with a wee glass of 18 year old....... :lol
I prefer 16 year old, personally, there's a bit more of a tang to it. But its all just delicious urine, really. :thumbsup
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Like everyone else I'm very excited about Lids going to the midfielder.
However, it remains to be seen if he can actually succeed in this position. Last 2 years Lids has been in the extended AA squad as a half bank flanker, and I suspect this is his best position. As a midfielder Lids doesn't read the play like a Cotchin, Mark Murphy, Selwood, etc...
i know this view won't be popular, and i really hope I'm wrong
Didn't Lids win his 2 B&F's playing in the midfield?? Must have done something right.
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I am really concerned with Deledio's contract and don't understand why we are not in talks with his management to extend his contract?
who said we aren't ::)
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who said we aren't ::)
Torch did. :huh
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Tell you what, when WAT says hes taking the pee he doesnt stuff around
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who said we aren't ::)
Torch did. :huh
I'm assuming that coz we havent signed him yet torch thinks we aint talking...perhaps we're negotiating and waiting on response from management...pretty big decision for Lids considering free agency et al...his worth has prob added 200k
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who said we aren't ::)
Torch did. :huh
I'm assuming that coz we havent signed him yet torch thinks we aint talking...perhaps we're negotiating and waiting on response from management...pretty big decision for Lids considering free agency et al...his worth has prob added 200k
This post is disgraceful BJ. Have more faith in Richmond and Lids. I'm not seeing enough positivity in your post here mate
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who said we aren't ::)
Torch did. :huh
I'm assuming that coz we havent signed him yet torch thinks we aint talking...perhaps we're negotiating and waiting on response from management...pretty big decision for Lids considering free agency et al...his worth has prob added 200k
I think he might hold out for a bigger piece of pie for a little bit, but im confident he will eventually resign with us. We are finally getting our poo together. He would be silly to leave us now.
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Mate just about to celebrate with a wee glass of 18 year old....... :lol
I prefer 16 year old, personally, there's a bit more of a tang to it. But its all just delicious urine, really. :thumbsup
Neat on ice......Scotch BTW..... :lol
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I hope Lids doesn't leave and he can see that a decent core is slowly being built up around him, but if he were to go then I think it will be more as a free agent to a contending club rather than being poached by GWS. After being at a Club that hasn't played finals in his whole 7 year career I can't see him wanting to go to GWS to spend another 5 years in the football wilderness and turning 30 before he sees any potential finals action. If he left for GWS then it would purely be for the $$$.
As for playing in the midfield, Lids' biggest challenge will be overcoming hard tags such as pesky little twerps like Picken from the Dogs who in the past have always got the better of Lids. Hopefully will the quality we have at the top end of our midfield and more harder bigger bodies to block and shepherd in traffic, opposition sides will find it harder to tag all of Cotch, Dusty and Lids at once. Lids like Dusty can also rest up forward so the two could rotate in and out of the centre which also helps to break a tag.
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I found that article highly amusing especially the bit about Lids having to do some work to break into the midfield :lol
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I t hink Deledio will sign a 3 year deal with us but if we dont improve substantially in that period of time he'll be gone to Carlton at the end of that period.
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I t hink Deledio will sign a 3 year deal with us but if we dont improve substantially in that period of time he'll be gone to Carlton at the end of that period.
Another 3 years and Judd will be in the twilight of his career.
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I t hink Deledio will sign a 3 year deal with us but if we dont improve substantially in that period of time he'll be gone to Carlton at the end of that period.
what for half what he's earning at RFC ::)...he'll be on 800-900k pa on his next contract with us...No side currently in the top 8 could accomodate that, I repeat NO side currently in the top 8...now reload and try again :lol
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I t hink Deledio will sign a 3 year deal with us but if we dont improve substantially in that period of time he'll be gone to Carlton at the end of that period.
what for half what he's earning at RFC ::)...he'll be on 800-900k pa on his next contract with us...No side currently in the top 8 could accomodate that, I repeat NO side currently in the top 8...now reload and try again :lol
Carlton have a number of high paid players who will be finishing in or around the next 3 years. Waite, McLean, Simpson, Betts and one or two others. The salary cap will not be the issue the issue is whether or not Deledio feels that Carlton will be in a better position to win a flag and with Judd indeed getting on then yes it may be that we can keep Deledio under those circumstances IMO.
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Hey Ramps, you may need to repeat that then re load ;D
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I t hink Deledio will sign a 3 year deal with us but if we dont improve substantially in that period of time he'll be gone to Carlton at the end of that period.
Another 3 years and Judd will be in the twilight of his career.
Correct. He's 28 now. Hopefully the bustard starts to lose some leg speed, and injuries catch up with him.
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My concern is that GWS still have a ton of cash they can offer him because basically they could pinch him with no compensation to us under the free agency rule next year if we can't match it. Then Owl will have to go fairdinkum ape scat, cover their stadium in human hair and pig fat and set fire to it.
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Hardwicks kidding himself if he reckons we have midfield depth although to be fair he didn't rate the quality of that midfield depth.
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My concern is that GWS still have a ton of cash they can offer him because basically they could pinch him with no compensation to us under the free agency rule next year if we can't match it.
You honestly don't think the RFC wont match it ;D
Lids wont be going anywhere
Free agency or no free agency
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I am sure we will, what I am worried aobut is just how much they can throw at him though and of course don't like the idea of the salary cap getting pressured just as we are getting our crap to start gelling.
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If he goes he goes, so what? we'll get 2 first rounders in a super draft and besides most ppl in here surprisingly dont rate him that high anyhow judging by comments made about him
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So then we all agree.......Lids will be great in the centre, actually I would have him play very much like Martin and Cotch....as in 3-4 goals a game... :thumbsup
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TFTF = Keep Deledio
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TFTF = Keep Deledio
Yep in part because they have made it clear that a portionof the monies to enable to the club to compete in the FA market
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My concern is that GWS still have a ton of cash they can offer him because basically they could pinch him with no compensation to us under the free agency rule next year if we can't match it. Then Owl will have to go fairdinkum ape scat, cover their stadium in human hair and pig fat and set fire to it.
we chopped our oldest highest payed players a couple year ago
Have a very young list and our best players are young
we'd have as much money as gws, gc, anyone to throw at lids
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I think Lids will be a better outside mid than in. His desposal, speed and decision-making is excellent so coming in from the wing would be my starting location for him. He'll need to do his fair share of hard yards at the bottom of the pack but I don't see this aspect of his game as a natural component. Dusty, Cotch and even Foley seem to have more edge to them and the 'getting down and dirty' is part and parcel of their games.
I agree with MT about the tag. Lids struggled with this big time in the past but then again, so did Martin last year when he was first faced with it. I think the difference though now is 1) Lids knows more strategies and has the physical strength (always had the speed/endurance) how to beat a tag, 2) Lids is not the best midfielder in the team by a significant margin in fact, currently, he sits well below Cotchin, 3)there is multiple players to assist and take the pressure off Lids - if he has a bad day we don't lose the stoppages contests outright.
I think the biggest influencing factor for the move is Houli's form at the end of last season coming off the HB. He was excellent. With Morris and Dea ready to play here, the additional depth in the area gives us far more flexibility to move around our better players in the areas where they can have the greatest influence on the game.
Overall I'm very excited about the move because, if for no other reason, it shows us that we are finally building up the depth that we have all craved for years. :thumbsup
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Right on Stripes. I'd love to see Lids on a wing, carrying the ball and kicking a few goals.
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Would personally love to see him play alongside Reiwoldt alternating between FF and HF.
Could kick 60 goals a season easy with Jack kicking 80 and Ty 40, throw in Nahas, Maric (A), Martin kicking a few we become pretty potent.
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if deledio goes anywhere doubt it will be gws.
It will be to play in finals...now. Carlton or Hawthorn would be my bet
Not a bad time to lose him if he does go as it is a very strong draft in 2012.
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agree with stripes. He is a great kick of the football. Has the potential to be a very damaging wingman
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Find it amusing that Richmond tell the media every little thing they do.
This gives other clubs that advantage to set a strategy against our players. This is why clubs like Carlton come out and belt us because we have no element of surprise come gameday cause every F on the planet knows whats happening down there. :lol :lol
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I t hink Deledio will sign a 3 year deal with us but if we dont improve substantially in that period of time he'll be gone to Carlton at the end of that period.
what for half what he's earning at RFC ::)...he'll be on 800-900k pa on his next contract with us...No side currently in the top 8 could accomodate that, I repeat NO side currently in the top 8...now reload and try again :lol
Carlton have a number of high paid players who will be finishing in or around the next 3 years. Waite, McLean, Simpson, Betts and one or two others. The salary cap will not be the issue the issue is whether or not Deledio feels that Carlton will be in a better position to win a flag and with Judd indeed getting on then yes it may be that we can keep Deledio under those circumstances IMO.
Id reckon his gloss may begin to wane in 3 years time, ...yes if judd retired theyd have a gap, would they wanna spend it on a 28yo...Im not so sure but hey funnier things have happened they spent 400k on brock mclean :shh
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I reckon Deledio is goneski after 2012.
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If he goes he goes, so what? we'll get 2 first rounders in a super draft and besides most ppl in here surprisingly dont rate him that high anyhow judging by comments made about him
No we get nothing, they can just outbid us at the end of 2012 because he is a restricted free agent.
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pretty sure there is still compensation for the club
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surely not. what the eff is the point of it if a club has to give up something? that's exactly the same as trading for a bloke who is out of contract.
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The AFL hand out the compensatory draft picks from their magic hat.
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I reckon Deledio is goneski after 2012.
Why? :-\
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The AFL hand out the compensatory draft picks from their magic hat.
:yep
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The AFL hand out the compensatory draft picks from their magic hat.
Correct.
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The point is that he becomes a restricted free agent at the end of 2012 so he comes under different rules, he isn't being poached under the out of contract rules, he is being grabbed under the restricted free agent rules which means, we get sweet FA if they did make a play but yeah I see the point about the magic hat and it would be up to the AFL but I don't know what they would rule on it and would prefer not to test the water frankly. We could argue that if they are using their magic bucket of money for the start up then he should come under the magic compensation draft pick hat...
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The point is that he becomes a restricted free agent at the end of 2012 so he comes under different rules, he isn't being poached under the out of contract rules, he is being grabbed under the restricted free agent rules which means, we get sweet FA if they did make a play but yeah I see the point about the magic hat and it would be up to the AFL but I don't know what they would rule on it and would prefer not to test the water frankly. We could argue that if they are using their magic bucket of money for the start up then he should come under the magic compensation draft pick hat...
I was under the impression that they would use the same rating system as they did for the out of contract players the went to the GC and GWS??
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Correct :thumbsup
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Spot on. :cheers
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I reckon Deledio is goneski after 2012.
Why? :-\
Just get that feeling.. You'd think he would've extended by now?
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If you were contracted to work for your employer till October 2012, had the option to extend your stay for another 3 years for an extra $50,000 now or wait until October and extend for an extra $150,000, what would you choose to do? :whistle
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If you were contracted to work for your employer till October 2012, had the option to extend your stay for another 3 years for an extra $50,000 now or wait until October and extend for an extra $150,000, what would you choose to do? :whistle
And the AFLPA are still throwing tantrums. Isn't that why a heap of AFL players across the comp only signed one year deals recently?
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I reckon Deledio is goneski after 2012.
Why? :-\
Just get that feeling.. You'd think he would've extended by now?
Not really ... with Free Agency on the horizon the landscape's changed, tohugh in Lids case we hold all the aces ;D
Logic tells me that his management will insist that he looks at all offers
I'd be very surprised if he leaves ;D
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Lids 150 games turns 25 in April next year.
He has potentially 10 years left in him so could get 300 - 350 games for Richmond (higher still if there are multiple finals).
Depends what floats his boat about playing AFL. If it is money then another club is going to come along and offer him more than we can especially if we do become a top 4 side.
But he has set himself up to spoken about with the best players this club has had. Does that mean anything to him?
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I thought you people were taught not to think negative thoughts?
Deledio will stay. Daniel Jackson will make sure of it.
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I thought you people were taught not to think negative thoughts?
Deledio will stay. Daniel Jackson will make sure of it.
Who do you think you are, making such comments.
This is a disgrace >:(
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Reported :police: :police:
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Lids has gone the crew cut....
From Shaun Grigg's twitter:
"Finally got him!! @BrettDeledio03 is an official towball brother. #towballbrothers"
http://lockerz.com/s/167564854
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Tigerland’s Mr Consistency
By Adrian Ceddia
richmondfc.com.au
Wed 28 Dec, 2011
The following article was featured in the 2011 Fighting Tiger Yearbook.
Richmond’s star rebounding defender, Brett Deledio, has made a habit of being at the business end of Jack Dyer Medal counts.
Deledio already has two Best and Fairests to his name, in what has been a decorated career so far in the Yellow and Black.
His continued excellence over a sustained period has Tiger fans expecting to see him standing on the podium every year.
In seven seasons at Richmond, Deledio has finished in the top five of the Jack Dyer Medal five times, to go with an AFL Rising Star Award, three nominations for All-Australian selection and 32 Brownlow Medal votes.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/127588/default.aspx
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Lids has gone the crew cut....
From Shaun Grigg's twitter:
"Finally got him!! @BrettDeledio03 is an official towball brother. #towballbrothers"
http://lockerz.com/s/167564854
He could win a brownlow with that doo
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His would be the perfect contract to front load - starting with 2012 and then extending it until end 2014.
While he may want to wait and see how we perform this year, if its money he wants he will
get it by extending at a club which has room in its salary cap (us). If he wants success, to be frank a contract wont matter if the trade is good enough and because we can easily match any contract from a top 5 or 6 club free agency simply isnt an option. So re-sign Lids negotiate a front ended contract to get a nice bonus this year and prepare to be traded to a club willing to deal if you ever decide to leave - contract or not
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@ClarkyHeraldSun Jay Clark twitter:
"Great news for a Melbourne-based afl club re-signing one of its biggest names to long term deal. #nofreeagent Tomorrow's herald sun."
I hope it's Lids :pray
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God yeah, now that would be great if they get him signed up now so we don't have to go through the Ablett crap.
Please let it be :gotigers
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Out of the possible GWS targets Hurley is one but he hasn't been in the system long enough to be a free agent. Pendelbury signed a one-year deal and he can't be a free agent either so it's not him. So I'm thinking it has to be either Goddard or Deledio. Please be it Lids :pray.
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Thinking a bit more about who it is - it can't be St Kilda (Goddard) as they aren't a big Melbourne club ;D.
I've got my hopes up now it's Lids :pray
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It doesn't say big Melbourne club, just Melbourne based. I bet it's Goddard :(
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It's Ryan Griffen from the scraggers.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-lock-up-ryan-griffen/story-e6frf9jf-1226241206762
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It's Ryan Griffen from the scraggers.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-lock-up-ryan-griffen/story-e6frf9jf-1226241206762
He's about their only player these days, s it's no wonder they tied him up. Probably offered him the keys to the castle and a few virgins to boot.
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It's Ryan Griffen from the scraggers.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-lock-up-ryan-griffen/story-e6frf9jf-1226241206762
He's about their only player these days, s it's no wonder they tied him up. Probably offered him the keys to the castle and a few virgins to boot.
Dont you mean derelect fibro shack when you say castle, and tattooed 13yo pog-a-log when you mean virgin? This is the Footscray we are talking about, no?
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No surprsie it wasn't Lids :rollin :rollin
If it was we'd nothing to talk about Tiger contract wise for the next 6 months & that wouldn't be fair :jump
:outtahere :outtahere
:eyebrow :eyebrow
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No surprise it wasn't Lids because Craig Cameron is poo.
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No surprise it wasn't Lids because Craig Cameron is poo.
He isn't poo, he is working extremely hard on new 5 year deals that will solidify success for the RFC. Graham and Connors, my source tells me in the range of $400-$600,000 a year each. :rollin :wallywink
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Now we know this thread title is not relevant, can we close it? Its a bit misleading now
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Not the most reliable of footy news sources but SNF reckons Lids will most likely stay at Tigerland.
Franklin could be biggest free agent
By Kim Hagdorn
SportsNewsFirst
12 January 2012 01:45PM EST
HAWTHORN sensation Lance Franklin is looming as the biggest superstar on the market when the AFL introduces free agency transfers for players later this year.
Franklin turns 25 in late January and is of contract at the end of the 2012 season.
The goal-kicking superstar and one of the most influential game breakers in the AFL will complete his eighth season this year and become eligible for what the league’s new system will call “restricted” free agency.
The 2008 Hawks premiership hero and Coleman medallist will be a red-hot top priority to any club on the verge of winning a flag and with salary cap space to target such a potential match-winner.
It is understood that Franklin’s management has already indicated to Hawks heavyweights that the game’s most dominant scoring force is most likely to delay any new contract talks until the end of the season.
Franklin will be a player who is in Hawthorn’s top 25 per cent of earnings and cannot simply head to a new club of his choice without Hawks management being allowed to make a counter offer.
If the Hawks can match any other offer to Franklin within their salary cap and additional services agreements to pay their superstar big man, then the powerhouse left-footer would stay with Hawthorn.
Players who have given 10 years of service to their existing club will be allowed to move without any restriction.
That category is deemed by the league as an "unrestricted" free agent and can move to any club of thei choice irrespective of their deal.
Any player who has given eight years of service but is not being paid inside his club’s top 25 per cent, which is about nine players on a list, is also declared as an “unrestricted free” agent.
A player like Franklin who has played eight seasons and is out of contract will be subjected to a counter offer from his existing club Hawthorn to any new deal available to move to another franchise.
St Kilda hard-nut veteran Brendan Goddard will be a top priority free agent who can move to any new club of his choice without any counter offer from the Saints.
The league’s new free-agency system has three categories for players to potentially move with less restriction than ever before under the draft and trade process.
The new free-agency agreement will only apply to players who have served at least eight seasons at the same club, while a decade on the one list will allow unrestricted free movement.
Goddard, 26, has constantly been linked with a switch to new club Greater Western Sydney when he is out of contract.
The 185-game veteran also continues to be closely tied with his former coach Ross Lyon, who has switched to Fremantle after a five-year stint at the Saints.
Classy Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio also continues to be touted as a possible target to leave the Tigers as a “restricted” agent if any new offer isn’t matched.
Deledio, 25, is most likely to agree to a new deal and stay at the emerging Tigers.
Franklin or Goddard will be top priorities for negotiation with Fremantle in the west as Lyon makes his mark on the previously under-achieving Dockers who continue to maintain their premiership potential within the next two to three years.
The Dockers still have significant room in salary cap juggling to confront any bidding war for an ace forward after failing in a bitter battle last October for out-of-contract Brisbane big forward Mitch Clark.
The power-forward ended up at Melbourne on a lucrative four-year contract package.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/01/12/franklin-could-be-biggest-free-agent/
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God, how ironic would that be if we picked up Buddy.... ;D
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Trade Riewoldt and bring in Buddy.
I love it!
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Trade Riewoldt and bring in Buddy.
I love it!
Won't have to trade anyone..
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Can we do it anyway?
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Can we do it anyway?
Yes - throw Cotch and Martin in the deal too... ::)
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Can we do it anyway?
Yes, so long as he fits in our salary cap and we can offer him a better deal, of course he has to choose us too.
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Franklin will be a million dollar a year player (my estimate $1.0 million -1.2 million a year. Question is which club can afford it in the cap without stuffing up salary management.
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Trade Riewoldt and bring in Buddy.
I love it!
Excuse me, but this isn't some backwater site where you can state anything >:(
Where's your integrity?
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I would suspect his first preference would be hawkers obviously imo they are getting closer to premiership contender.
Only other clubs he would go? Pies?? And they wouldn't offer the money considering the list they have. Maybe a move to the sunshine coast ina couple of years??
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Franklin will be a million dollar a year player (my estimate $1.0 million -1.2 million a year. Question is which club can afford it in the cap without stuffing up salary management.
Obviously GWS could with their concessions and even if they couldn't the AFL would make sure the rules were changed to accommodate the move if Buddy wanted to head north for the $$$. Only a Ablett or Judd switching clubs would be bigger news.
As for Lids I'm hoping he stays. Except for the $$$, I can't see the point of him moving to a new franchise that will struggle for the next 5 years. It would mean a whole career without playing finals.
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I'm happy with Goddard and Franklin being the $cully/Ablett news this season.
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Agree dwaino. Based on the rumoured names linked to the Suns in 2010 and GWS last year being on the money, it's a positive that Lids' name isn't in the news on that front. The rumour mill will continue to be focussed on Goddard and Pendelbury this year.
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Franklin will be a million dollar a year player (my estimate $1.0 million -1.2 million a year. Question is which club can afford it in the cap without stuffing up salary management.
Us Ramps. We have made no secret of the fact that we are positioning ourselves to be able to do this very thing and we have bucketloads of room in our cap already. Our challenge will be to get as many of our 'required' players onto frontloaded contracts so we can sustain a period of success. Either that or get some of them an after hours tree-hugging job with Visy.
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Watch Carlton magically have room to snatch Franklin from under everyone's noses.
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Watch Carlton magically have room to snatch Franklin from under everyone's noses.
Dead right.....happens all the time, why can't we do it and why can the big teams with surely NO room left in the salary cap... :huh
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Franklin will not be leaving the Hawks. The talk of this happening is laughable :lol I guess we have nothing more to talk about, so let's imagine:
Frankline, Riewoldt, Vickery, Griffths all in our forward line! :gotigers Premiers in 2013-14-15-16-17 :birthday
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Franklin will not be leaving the Hawks. The talk of this happening is laughable :lol I guess we have nothing more to talk about, so let's imagine:
Frankline, Riewoldt, Vickery, Griffths all in our forward line! :gotigers Premiers in 2013-14-15-16-17 :birthday
I suspect that Franklin will end up being a Richo style one club player. He even has similar characteristics to our Beloved Richo as he makes the impossible look easy and the easy look impossible. ;D
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I agree, he will be a one club player. Franklin though will go down as a better player in the books than Richo. He has also already won 2 Coleman's and a Premiership medallion. From a fan's and Tigers perspective though, there will never be an equal to Richo! :bow :cheers
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I agree with whoever suggested trading Riewoldt for Buddy.
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From a fan's and Tigers perspective though, there will never be an equal to Richo! :bow :cheers
Cheers to that!
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I agree, he will be a one club player. Franklin though will go down as a better player in the books than Richo. He has also already won 2 Coleman's and a Premiership medallion. From a fan's and Tigers perspective though, there will never be an equal to Richo! :bow :cheers
I think it's unfair to include premierships won when comparing players as that is a reflection of the team they play for rather than the player them self.
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I agree, he will be a one club player. Franklin though will go down as a better player in the books than Richo. He has also already won 2 Coleman's and a Premiership medallion. From a fan's and Tigers perspective though, there will never be an equal to Richo! :bow :cheers
I think it's unfair to include premierships won when comparing players as that is a reflection of the team they play for rather than the player them self.
I wasn't so much comparing the players based on the Premieship medallion, moving more towards Buddy is in a successful team. If we were going down that path you would have idiots claiming Mooney was the bees knees as he has 3 Premiership medals. :rollin
So just to clarify, in the books Buddy will be better because he has won 2 Coleman's, is a freak of a player and is in successful side as opposed to Richo.
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:lol agrree about Mooney.
it just seems to be a habit of people to include premiership medallions when comparing players.
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Franklin will not be leaving the Hawks. The talk of this happening is laughable :lol I guess we have nothing more to talk about, so let's imagine:
Frankline, Riewoldt, Vickery, Griffths all in our forward line! :gotigers Premiers in 2013-14-15-16-17 :birthday
Yep, laughable...just like Ablett, Judd and Scully not leaving eh......
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I could find good reason for both of them to leave, but not so much Franklin.
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I could find good reason for both of them to leave, but not so much Franklin.
Its all about the money nowdays Al, Scully left for it and so did Judd...Judds mum was looked after Scullies Dad was too.
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franklin will be on good money anyway.
scully is being overpaid for an unproven player and there were whispers he wasnt happy with the way the club was being run.
judd wanted to return to his home state.
Martin could have left for more money, so It's not always about the money, but it does play a part. In Franklins case I cant see too many reasons for him to leave besides the money and unlike Ablett, you couldnt say that he has pretty much achieved everything you could expect. I doubt he would be offered captaincy like ablett either.
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C'mon al, 90% is about money these days, unfortunately. Remember, he has just broken up with his missus too, he might want a fresh start....
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I agree with whoever suggested trading Riewoldt for Buddy.
I agree with whoever suggested swapping tbr for dubstep dookie in this thread
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:lol
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C'mon al, 90% is about money these days, unfortunately. Remember, he has just broken up with his missus too, he might want a fresh start....
If that was the case we'd see a lot more players changing clubs for money but most top line players get pretty good coin as it is.
Only time will tell on this anyway.
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If he does leave he will absolutely cop it from Richmond supporters for the rest of his career. We are the most feral.
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he will mop up his tears with wads of cash.
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I'll be gobsmacked if Lids leaves. He can see we're building..
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I agree with whoever suggested trading Riewoldt for Buddy.
I agree with whoever suggested swapping tbr for dubstep dookie in this thread
You assume we are not one and the same.. :huh
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If he leaves he'll go to Carlton. :banghead
The blues will find a way to magically fit him into the salary cap.
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If he leaves he'll go to Carlton. :banghead
The blues will find a way to magically fit him into the salary cap.
Well I have photographic evidence below as to how they do it. The photo shows a recent meeting between Andy D and Carlton's CFO.
Every meeting between the pair seems to end with the phrase "321, you're back in the room." ;D
(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/9587/kennycandyd.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/kennycandyd.jpg/)
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Contract talks have been delayed - probably until well in the season. >:(
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Contract talks have been delayed - probably until well in the season. >:(
How do you know this?
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Balmy, here's the article about it from the Herald-Sun ...
Brett Deledio's Tiger deal on hold
by: Jay Clark and Michael Warner
From: Herald Sun
January 25, 2012
RICHMOND star Brett Deledio has put contract talks on hold, subjecting the Tigers to an excruciating wait.
Deledio, 24, is a prime target for Greater Western Sydney and also qualifies for free agency when his deal expires in October.
The dual best-and-fairest winner has said he wants to stay at Punt Rd, but is eager to play finals.
It means a miserable season for the Tigers, who haven't played off in September since 2001, could cost the club his signature.
Richmond opens its season against Carlton, Collingwood and Melbourne and could be forced to wait until mid-season to learn of Deledio's decision.
It is understood Deledio's management, led by Anthony McConville - who also handles Tigers vice-captain Trent Cotchin - is prepared to delay talks despite the speculation.
Finals a sticking point in Deledio deal Deledio is shaping as the biggest fish in the free agency war, with Collingwood and Geelong set to play hard ball in the chase for marquee talent.
Under the rules of free agency, uncontracted players with eight years of service can be poached by any club for a bumper price.
The Tigers are prepared to pay top dollar to keep the 2004 No.1 draft pick, but Deledio is certain to be heavily pursued.
Richmond greats Tom Hafey, Francis Bourke and Tony Jewell have backed him to stay.
"I'm hoping he'll sign because he's a very important player," Hafey said.
Asked what he would say if he was coaching Deledio, Hafey said: 'I'd say to him, 'You've done all the hard stuff with the teams that have had to struggle.
"And now we look like being a reasonable sort of team, it would be good if you could be there and want to further your football'. Sometimes a lot of these players go to other clubs and they regret it. It is a difficult one."
Bourke said: "It's a difficult time for the administrators because it seems that maybe the negotiation advantage has changed in the players' favour.
"And you can't blame Brett for wanting to maximise his commercial value.
"I feel sorry for both parties. But I've never seen any sign or any lack of commitment by Brett towards the Richmond footy club, and he's been through some dark times. So I take my hat off to him on that score."
Premiership coach Jewell said: "He has put a lot of hard yards into the club and you would hope he'd want to see some sort of success for them after what they've been through - because there is a ray of sunshine there."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledios-tiger-deal-on-hold/story-e6frf9jf-1226252896692
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There is little other than speculation about this story.
He has every right to take a wait and see approach.
If it's finals he wants, we hold the whip hand as there is no way any top 4-6 team could out bid us.
Which means a trade as worse case scenario.
And Geelong proved with Leigh Colbert and now Gary Ablett that no individual is bigger than the club
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There is little other than speculation about this story.
He has every right to take a wait and see approach.
Especially when he has a manager who will be personally better off with "the wait & see approach"
But as I 've said many times with Free agency coming in we still hold all the aces regarding Lids as the Age confirms in their story today:
"Under free agency, a player who is out of contract for the first time since serving eight years at the one club and is among the top nine or 10 paid in his final season can be offered a contract by rival clubs. But this offer can be matched by his current club. Richmond's Brett Deledio falls into this category."
From: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/clubs-grapple-with-free-agency-20120124-1qfqo.html#ixzz1kOiNvbg5
He wont be going anywhere. Personally I'm not worried ;D
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Yes we may want to match it but ultimately if he chooses to leave for Carlton then we have no chance.
If a player wants to go a player wants to go
To be honest no finals this year I would leave also.
8 years of rubbish and he deserves better
As has been hinted for weeks the club wants finals and now IMO this must be surely be one of the reasons why
No finals = No Lids
Blues will take him in a heartbeat ESP with Judd nearing the veterans list
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No finals = No Lids
It's really as simple as that.
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Yes we may want to match it but ultimately if he chooses to leave for Carlton then we have no chance.
If a player wants to go a player wants to go
daniel Bottom line is under the AFL's free agency rules he will be a restricted free agent.
This means as long as the RFC chooses to match any offer made by any other club he he has to stay; we keep him no "ifs, buts or maybes". They are the rules.
If the Club chooses not to match the offer then he gets traded to the club that offers us the best deal again; they are the rules
So how if he chooses Carlton are we "no chance"?
IMHO:
1/ we still have the upper hand under these new FA rules
and
2/ I honestly believe he wont be choosing anywhere but the RFC.
No finals = No Lids
It's really as simple as that.
That simple? Are you saying if we miss finals in 2012 by say 1 game or percentage then he's simply going to walk out the door :huh
And BTW just on the HUN article can anyone tell me what relevance mentioning Cotchin in the article has seeing Cotch is contracted for next season? trying to stir the masses it would seem ;D
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Y&B hit the nail on the head. If he goes , he goes.
To me this probably more about his manager recommending he wait to get a better deal than anything else., but i wont be getting my knickers in a knot over it
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I reckon hes off fellas !
Clearly wants to play finals every year, I reckon the blues are a huge chance.
Funny isn't it considering most of us would PAY the tigers to play for them.
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Uh oh spaghettio!
Kinda siding with those saying no finals = no Lids.
I understand we hold the cards and all that, but if he wants to go then there isn't much good in keeping him around if he would rather be somewhere else.
I'll try to stay optimistic though. Different kettle of fish, but Thomas didn't resign to Collingwood until late.
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I understand we hold the cards and all that, but if he wants to go then there isn't much good in keeping him around if he would rather be somewhere else.
Sydeny did it with Ryan O'Keefe 4 or so years ago. He wanted to come home to Melb,they couldn't do a trade and he stayed and has since (last year IIRC) signed another long term contract that will ensure he is a Swan for life.
Tigers can do the same
and FWIW there's not a doubt in my mind that the Tigers will match any offer Lids receives, they cannot afford not too ;D
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Contract talks have been delayed - probably until well in the season. >:(
How do you know this?
I knew the bad news beforehand and besides it was in the herald sun ;D
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Can I ask a question and it's probably directed at those who reckons he's goneskis no matter what?
Which part of the Free Agency rules don't you understand?
Because I would think the rules are pretty clear cut especially seeing the media keep using Lids as example of how "restricted free agency" will work. They are not grey, pink, yellow or tangerine they are crystal clear. But it seems to me poeple don't want accept it or perhaps even want to understand them :-\
So I will repeat it based on the Free Agency rules as they currently stand in the case of Lids the rules clearly mean as long as the RFC chooses to match any offer made by any other club Lids stays; we keep him no "ifs, buts or maybes".
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That simple? Are you saying if we miss finals in 2012 by say 1 game or percentage then he's simply going to walk out the door :huh
Yes. Whilst the chances would be amplified by a poor year for the club, another heartbreaking 9th again would likely do it anyway.
I hope he and the team have a great season and this becomes a non issue but I am very concerned that he hasn't signed at this stage.
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Can I ask a question and it's probably directed at those who reckons he's goneskis no matter what?
Which part of the Free Agency rules don't you understand?
Because I would think the rules are pretty clear cut especially seeing the media keep using Lids as example of how "restricted free agency" will work. They are not grey, pink, yellow or tangerine they are crystal clear. But it seems to me poeple don't want accept it or perhaps even want to understand them :-\
So I will repeat it based on the Free Agency rules as they currently stand in the case of Lids the rules clearly mean as long as the RFC chooses to match any offer made by any other club Lids stays; we keep him no "ifs, buts or maybes".
It's clear to me WP but I think some are confusing the 8 year conditions with the 10. As a betting proposition, Lids staying would be at short odds for a number of reasons but none more so than the Free Agency conditions that apply to him.
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Is anyone concerned that we could end up in strife regarding salary cap.
We paid probably overs to keep Martin away from GWS. We will do the same to keep Deledio.
Just concerns me we've copped 2 extreme circumstances in Free Agency and new franchise poach that are unlikely to happen to other clubs. This will put us behind them in terms of affording the best possible list.
Just sign Brett, if you want to have a proper push for finals then sign a 1-2 year deal if your worried about long term. Don't pee away the season with the circus about Free Agency stuff that could ruin our season. Some players/agents can be too self absorbed, and live for a bit of limelight and drama off field.
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Also as fair as I understand with what Brett has achieved we'd be compensated with 2 high first round picks for Lids, including number 1 pick.
Wouldn't be the end of the world.
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Can I ask a question and it's probably directed at those who reckons he's goneskis no matter what?
Which part of the Free Agency rules don't you understand?
Because I would think the rules are pretty clear cut especially seeing the media keep using Lids as example of how "restricted free agency" will work. They are not grey, pink, yellow or tangerine they are crystal clear. But it seems to me poeple don't want accept it or perhaps even want to understand them :-\
So I will repeat it based on the Free Agency rules as they currently stand in the case of Lids the rules clearly mean as long as the RFC chooses to match any offer made by any other club Lids stays; we keep him no "ifs, buts or maybes".
If he wants to go he will go irrespective of the rules IMHO.
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If he wants to go he will go irrespective of the rules IMHO.
Cannot agree as I said under FA we hold the aces here
The rules are the rules Flags and I know I sound like a broken record but again we
As I see it there are 2 scenarios here
Under free agency as restricted free agent if the Tigers match ANY offer he receives then he has to stay. End of story. Not open to any discussion
If the Club chooses not match an offer then he gets traded - again those are the rules
So under FA if "he wants to go" he can only go if we don't match the offer and then he gets traded to club that gives us the best deal.
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Yes. Whilst the chances would be amplified by a poor year for the club, another heartbreaking 9th again would likely do it anyway.
So in your view Magic the FA rules that favour the RFC are redundant in your case as well? :huh
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Is anyone concerned that we could end up in strife regarding salary cap.
Absolutely not
We've been paying under the salary cap for the last couple of years around 92.5%
Granted in 2012 we must pay for memory a minimum of 95% of the cap but I doubt we'd be over that so we have plenty of room
And also don't forget alot players re-signed for 2012 were only given 1 year deals for the very reason that allows us to free up space for the marque players
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If he wants to go he will go irrespective of the rules IMHO.
Cannot agree as I said under FA we hold the aces here
The rules are the rules Flags and I know I sound like a broken record but again we
As I see it there are 2 scenarios here
Under free agency as restricted free agent if the Tigers match ANY offer he receives then he has to stay. End of story. Not open to any discussion
If the Club chooses not match an offer then he gets traded - again those are the rules
So under FA if "he wants to go" he can only go if we don't match the offer and then he gets traded to club that gives us the best deal.
He could also just ask to be traded billy. Of course the club would play hardball but if he really wants out he can get out. The question is does he really want out and why?
Frankly I dont care one way or the other as we should get adequate compensation. Unless the club of his choice trades into first pick of the ND, he isnt going to just walk if it is success he is after.
My feeling is that his manager will field offers from rival clubs to up his contract value and as others have pointed out, we would have more room in our salary cap than the top sides
God , roll on the season proper :help
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I agree with WP he will stay. I'm not fussed about him holding off from signing before the season. He most likely wants to see what his market rate is so he can get the most money he can get(from us). I won't criticize the man for doing that.
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He could also just ask to be traded billy. Of course the club would play hardball but if he really wants out he can get out. The question is does he really want out and why?
Not disputing that for a minute al
If he asks for a trade then, yep he's a good chance of going but if it is based solely on matching offers he stays
If he does ask for trade (and I don't believe he will) then the club again does the best deal it can for the Club.... again we win
Can I just add that I think people are forgetting the Club has worked bloody hard to position itself to be in strong position for FA. They hired Hartley who seems to across the various scenarios regarding not only FA but uncontracted players from other clubs.
They appear to have made sure that salary cap wise they are ready to go in the FA market with they way they've gone about list management heading into 2012.
I reckon the club are across all the possible outcomes and would see this latest posturing by a player manager (going by the article) as just part and parcel of how the FA market is going to work
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He could also just ask to be traded billy. Of course the club would play hardball but if he really wants out he can get out. The question is does he really want out and why?
Not disputing that for a minute al
If he asks for a trade then, yep he's a good chance of going but if it is based solely on matching offers he stays
If he does ask for trade (and I don't believe he will) then the club again does the best deal it can for the Club.... again we win
Can I just add that I think people are forgetting the Club has worked bloody hard to position itself to be in strong position for FA. They hired Hartley who seems to across the various scenarios regarding not only FA but uncontracted players from other clubs.
They appear to have made sure that salary cap wise they are ready to go in the FA market with they way they've gone about list management heading into 2012.
I reckon the club are across all the possible outcomes and would see this latest posturing by a player manager (going by the article) as just part and parcel of how the FA market is going to work
at some point the club will have to make a decision as to whether to match $1m a year offer from a competitor , or let him walk for 2 first round draft picks in a super draft.
Either way at this point it is fair to say that he hasn't shown the loyalty that Jack, Cotch and dusty have shown.
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I understand we hold the cards and all that, but if he wants to go then there isn't much good in keeping him around if he would rather be somewhere else.
Sydeny did it with Ryan O'Keefe 4 or so years ago. He wanted to come home to Melb,they couldn't do a trade and he stayed and has since (last year IIRC) signed another long term contract that will ensure he is a Swan for life.
Tigers can do the same
and FWIW there's not a doubt in my mind that the Tigers will match any offer Lids receives, they cannot afford not too ;D
I understand restricted agency and completely understand where you're coming from in your previous posts, but if (hypothetically) Carlton were chucking something stupid at him and he was keen as mustard, do we match it even though his heart isn't in it? I see your O'Keefe example, but this is different in that we're talking about a league star being head hunted.
Just my 2 cents anyway. I'm going to try and stay optimistic.
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Either way at this point it is fair to say that he hasn't shown the loyalty that Jack, Cotch and dusty have shown.
He hasn't? Why because hasn't signed a contract extension now?
The fact that since he was drafted he has re-signed twice I think shows he's been very loyal, especially considering last time (2009) he knocked back some pretty decent offers from other clubs to remain at the tigers
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All this means is-"I want to stay but I want us to play finals or I'm going"
Lids is feeling older and is desperate for finals action so is Newy.
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fair enough call on his behalf
if we continue to make progress and head in the right direction this year he will stay regardless of whether we actually play finals or not - if we go backwards and challenge for the spoon, things may get interesting...
Either way Im happy, Love Lids as a player but 2 x 1st round draft picks if he leaves is fine by me also
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Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
Shame on you Deledio, if he goes so does my membership and AFL all together for mine, its just not worth trying to rebuild time and time again after losing players like this...if we do. Clubs like the Blues or the Pies get stronger because players like Lids go there (example) while clubs like us get weaker......
Not happy Jan... :banghead :banghead :banghead
RFC and Deledio should of had this sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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speaks volumes ....
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Good to see Lids following on from the examples of Cotchin & Martin..
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So in your view Magic the FA rules that favour the RFC are redundant in your case as well? :huh
How so?
If he wants to go, the club won't match a motza to keep him. Why would you pay top dollar for a disgruntled player?
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If he wants to go, the club won't match a motza to keep him. Why would you pay top dollar for a disgruntled player?
But who said and where does it say he's disgruntled?
That seems to be the assumption because he hasn't re-signed.
Perhaps he like a number of others in this "restricted FA market" & under advice from their managers they are waiting to see what offers out there before committing. I don't think anyone can blame him or any other player for that.
Good to see Lids following on from the examples of Cotchin & Martin..
As I said since he was drafted he has re-signed twice turning down offers from other clubs so I am not quite sure how anyone can suggest he hasn't been loyal to the club.
And there is also a massive difference in the Lids case -v- Cotch/Martin and that is both Cotch/Martin weren't eligible for FA. But when Cotch's next contract comes around he likely will be a FA and are there is distinct possibility we will going through this again.
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If he wants to go, the club won't match a motza to keep him. Why would you pay top dollar for a disgruntled player?
But who said and where does it say he's disgruntled?
That seems to be the assumption because he hasn't re-signed.
Yes it is based purely on an assumption, hence the 'if'.
I see the Doggies signed Griffen last week BTW..what did you think about that?
"I am over the moon, as soon as it came up I wanted to sign straight away," the 25-year-old said.
"I love this place and I love the boys and it is fantastic that the club wanted to sign me."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bulldogs-resign-midfield-star-griffen-20120111-1pui9.html
And there is also a massive difference in the Lids case -v- Cotch/Martin and that is both Cotch/Martin weren't eligible for FA.
Martin could have been set for life.
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I see the Doggies signed Griffen last week BTW..what did you think about that?
I don't really care about the Doggies to be honest and I don't particularly rate Griffen.
But well done to the Doggies but have probably paid over the odds for him ;D
And I don't think Lids will be leaving
What was it 18 months ago everyone was worrying about Cotch leaving and I said at the time I didn't believe he would go anywhere and guess what he didn't. And for memory that speculation went on for what 3-6 months before he re-signed
See this Lids scenario the same way.
Don't know why but just like with Cotch and last year with Dust my gut feeling is he wont be leaving
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Martin could have been set for life.
He still will be.
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The article is a little ironic saying he wants finals but then mentions GWS. He will never play finals if he plays there.
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The article is a little ironic saying he wants finals but then mentions GWS. He will never play finals if he plays there.
Don't bet on it. They said the same thing about Brisbane in the late 90s when Buckley wanted and got out. :thumbsup
Oh how sweet that turned out ;D
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:clapping
I tell you what JVT, I'd hate to share a trench on the front line with some of these blokes. Wouldn't last 10 seconds when the poo really hit the fan.
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Worried we paid overs for Martin to keep him and will pay overs for Deledio to keep him.
Effectively we pay the equivalent for these 2 players the same as say a Franklin and Hodge.
Cbf going into detail but when you start using your salary cap up with paying overs for players it gets full quickly.
There is also a 3rd scenario he can decide not to sign and go in PSD? Or is that gone now
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Noone could ever post that Carlton will throw bucketloads of money at Lids in one breath and We cant match in the other breath.
It doesnt make sense as 1 club will have no salary cap room and the other is actually front ending contracts to stay at the minimum.
If anyone should worry, it is that Richmond will be coming after their players and if we win10+ games this year i reckon some decent players might take the bait.
Lid stays, we pay top dollar, if he goes he get traded and we probably use that money in the cap to get a uncontracted gun who sits under 10 year free agency - ie Goddard or trade for Pendles.
Think about it, we could do a mini gws.
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good call HRT.
It could be to our advantage.
Get compensation picks for delidio and then snare another good player to replace him.
the sky is is still falling though. :help
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Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
Shame on you Deledio, if he goes so does my membership and AFL all together for mine, its just not worth trying to rebuild time and time again after losing players like this...if we do. Clubs like the Blues or the Pies get stronger because players like Lids go there (example) while clubs like us get weaker......
Not happy Jan... :banghead :banghead :banghead
RFC and Deledio should of had this sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:lol
you pushing for the title of drama queen WAT?
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:lol
:clapping
I tell you what JVT, I'd hate to share a trench on the front line with some of these blokes. Wouldn't last 10 seconds when the poo really hit the fan.
There would be no sharing Dooks, your trench would be manned solo at the first hint of a problem. :-[
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:lol
they'd be AWOL when the trenches were being dug, let alone manning them.
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Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
Shame on you Deledio, if he goes so does my membership and AFL all together for mine, its just not worth trying to rebuild time and time again after losing players like this...if we do. Clubs like the Blues or the Pies get stronger because players like Lids go there (example) while clubs like us get weaker......
Not happy Jan... :banghead :banghead :banghead
RFC and Deledio should of had this sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:lol
you pushing for the title of drama queen WAT?
Bet you will be one of the drama queens if he goes al, my major problem is how it will affect the team during the season and it will affect them, don't be naive and think it won't.
So he is obviously putting himself before the club and its obviously about money and if he goes he dosn't have much faith we will be plaing finals, so that will be another reason......as I have mentioned before.
Honestly if he does go forget NO EXCUSES......we will be rebuilding forever because it shows we can't keep our best.
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:lol
:clapping
I tell you what JVT, I'd hate to share a trench on the front line with some of these blokes. Wouldn't last 10 seconds when the poo really hit the fan.
There would be no sharing Dooks, your trench would be manned solo at the first hint of a problem. :-[
Your probably right, I'd pre-bayonet the lot so they wouldn't be a liability to the cause. :cheers
People don't realise fans of other clubs read these websites. HTFU.
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Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
Shame on you Deledio, if he goes so does my membership and AFL all together for mine, its just not worth trying to rebuild time and time again after losing players like this...if we do. Clubs like the Blues or the Pies get stronger because players like Lids go there (example) while clubs like us get weaker......
Not happy Jan... :banghead :banghead :banghead
RFC and Deledio should of had this sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:lol
you pushing for the title of drama queen WAT?
Bet you will be one of the drama queens if he goes al, my major problem is how it will affect the team during the season and it will affect them, don't be naive and think it won't.
So he is obviously putting himself before the club and its oobviously about money.....as I have mentioned before.
Honestly if he does go forget NO EXCUSES......we will be rebuilding forever because it shows we can't keep our best.
:lol
I dont think he will go.
I'm on record as saying I don't care if he goes.
seriously WAT, one man does not maketh the team..... and you cannot back out of No Excuses now.
As long as the players at the club do not allow the media to wind them up like supporters do, then it will be a non issue. The ablett issue really only became what it was because Thompson made comments publicly about it and at the end of the day Geelong won a premiership in the first year he was gone.
If the players performance is affected by the contractual negotiations of one player then they don't have fortitude to be successful anyway.
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So under FA if "he wants to go" he can only go if we don't match the offer and then he gets traded to club that gives us the best deal.
The way I read the rules your statement is incorrect.
If a player gets an offer that is not matched then he goes to that club regardless of the deal for the disadvantaged club.
The only compensation Richmond would receive would be what the AFL deems fair on the balance of free trade movement.
These picks are another example of the "magic" picks that the AFL make appear. They are not paid by the receiving club.
So if we lost Lids but picked up Pendlebury we would probably not get any compensation for losing Lids.
The positive side is we would not have to pay any picks out for Pendlebury.
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So under FA if "he wants to go" he can only go if we don't match the offer and then he gets traded to club that gives us the best deal.
The way I read the rules your statement is incorrect.
If a player gets an offer that is not matched then he goes to that club regardless of the deal for the disadvantaged club.
The only compensation Richmond would receive would be what the AFL deems fair on the balance of free trade movement.
These picks are another example of the "magic" picks that the AFL make appear. They are not paid by the receiving club.
So if we lost Lids but picked up Pendlebury we would probably not get any compensation for losing Lids.
The positive side is we would not have to pay any picks out for Pendlebury.
I think the key point here is "if we did not match another clubs offer"
I would find it very difficult to believe any club playing finals could make an offer that we couldn't match in theory.
Which means those same clubs are probably better off just shrugging shoulders and engineering a trade.
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Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
Shame on you Deledio, if he goes so does my membership and AFL all together for mine, its just not worth trying to rebuild time and time again after losing players like this...if we do. Clubs like the Blues or the Pies get stronger because players like Lids go there (example) while clubs like us get weaker......
Not happy Jan... :banghead :banghead :banghead
RFC and Deledio should of had this sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:lol
you pushing for the title of drama queen WAT?
Bet you will be one of the drama queens if he goes al, my major problem is how it will affect the team during the season and it will affect them, don't be naive and think it won't.
So he is obviously putting himself before the club and its oobviously about money.....as I have mentioned before.
Honestly if he does go forget NO EXCUSES......we will be rebuilding forever because it shows we can't keep our best.
:lol
I dont think he will go.
I'm on record as saying I don't care if he goes.
seriously WAT, one man does not maketh the team..... and you cannot back out of No Excuses now.
As long as the players at the club do not allow the media to wind them up like supporters do, then it will be a non issue. The ablett issue really only became what it was because Thompson made comments publicly about it and at the end of the day Geelong won a premiership in the first year he was gone.
If the players performance is affected by the contractual negotiations of one player then they don't have fortitude to be successful anyway.
I know one man doesn't al, but a player like Lids in a team like ours is crucial to our success, wouldn't you say?
We have a very young team, Geelong had and has a very mature team, media speculation and internal rumors will affect them, I would be more surprised if it didn't.
I hope he stays because I believe he is just about as important to our success as Judd is to the Blues......but thats IMO...
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is he in the leadership group?
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is he in the leadership group?
I thnk so, but so was Maric....wouldn't matter, Judd was Captain too....
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no WAT, i don't believe that one man is important to success. Perhaps in the short term, but if you are banking on one man to win you a premiership then you are in trouble, just look at st kilda and the lesser reiwoldt . To do so you really are only one injury away from disaster.
Good teams can overcome the loss of one player and if you are after sustained success then that's where you want to be as team
FWIW, Hardwick didnt seem too concerned about it on radio just before.
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the sky is is still falling though. :help
As long as it doesn't hit me on the head ;D
I know one man doesn't al, but a player like Lids in a team like ours is crucial to our success, wouldn't you say?
But WAT in your "No excuses" thread when I said that with our list being so young if we were to lose one or two of our best players to injuries then we'd struggle you told me that was just another excuse and that we should & have the depth to cover it - NO EXCUSES
You now seem to have cottoned onto an excuse
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get a load of some of these drama queens :lol
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I see the Doggies signed Griffen last week BTW..what did you think about that?
I don't really care about the Doggies to be honest and I don't particularly rate Griffen.
But well done to the Doggies but have probably paid over the odds for him ;D
And I don't think Lids will be leaving
What was it 18 months ago everyone was worrying about Cotch leaving and I said at the time I didn't believe he would go anywhere and guess what he didn't. And for memory that speculation went on for what 3-6 months before he re-signed
See this Lids scenario the same way.
Don't know why but just like with Cotch and last year with Dust my gut feeling is he wont be leaving
I sure hope you're right as I am a massive fan of Lids on field work to date. I guess we'll see..
As an aside my sense is that Dimma won't suffer a bloke who's heart is not in it, so Brett had better give his all this year.
He'll be pushing Deledio every inch of the way this year to be the best he can be. It's primetime.
There will be no favours and you want the coin you're gonna earn it.
Midfield playmaker or bust.
Bet you will be one of the drama queens if he goes al, my major problem is how it will affect the team during the season and it will affect them, don't be naive and think it won't.
We're not the Cats though. We're mediocre, not at the top already.
If Lids wants finals that badly as rumoured, in an odd way this could be a very positive message to the group. If he's popular and they want to keep him then his team mates will hopefully do their darndest to make his wish happen.
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the sky is is still falling though. :help
As long as it doesn't hit me on the head ;D
I know one man doesn't al, but a player like Lids in a team like ours is crucial to our success, wouldn't you say?
But WAT in your "No excuses" thread when I said that with our list being so young if we were to lose one or two of our best players to injuries then we'd struggle you told me that was just another excuse and that we should & have the depth to cover it - NO EXCUSES
You now seem to have cottoned onto an excuse
Hang on, go and have another look, I did agree with Davey in the end that injuries would be an excuse, so don't be so selective.
My NO EXCUSES thread was based on the current team we have this year......But if contract negotiations with lids goes on all year it will affect the team, its not an excuse, but it will affect them.
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get a load of some of these drama queens :lol
Tell me about it Anth....
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get a load of some of these drama queens :lol
No way Jose, not interested in any queen's load.
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get a load of some of these drama queens :lol
No way Jose, not interested in any queen's load.
That's not what I hear crown hound :o
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If he stays we will be ok, If he leaves we will still be ok
Deledio isn't an "ONLY" one, we have enough development going on down there to cover him.
I personally believe he would love to get to CARLTON. But that's going to be hard.
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get a load of some of these drama queens :lol
No way Jose, not interested in any queen's load.
That's not what I hear crown hound :o
you shouldnt listen to idle gossip through the glory hole
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FHO. Hate players who hold the club for ransom
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Jack Riewoldt's tweet to Lids yesterday
"@BrettDeledio03 slow news day???"
;D
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I think Lids likes being at Punt Rd with his current group of teammates and will stay but if we fail to make ground this year then you can see a professional footballer walk after 8 years without finals. In this case the manager is clearly trying to maximise Lids' new deal. If we do better than expected this year then Lids will more than likely play a major part in that improvement as one of our A-graders so his new contract will then be pumped up further.
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I would love to see Lids stay,.However i can understand if he wants to leave for success.We as a club just have to achieve success,For way too long now we have been barely mediocre,and i mean on and off field..if we want to keep and lure stars we need sucess...simple
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Forget Free Agency.
GWS.
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Lids has to lift and become a game breaker otherwise let's get two first rounders for him
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I don't understand how given the way Richmond have managed the list from 2004/05 onwards, the amount of senior players Moved on in recent years. The lack of talented older footballers + rumors recently we were struggling to pay min 92.5% salary cap...
How we cannot afford as much as any other afl team. For lids.
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Lids has to lift and become a game breaker otherwise let's get two first rounders for him
To be fair more importantly Lids team mates also have to lift and a lot more significantly than he does.
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Worried we paid overs for Martin to keep him and will pay overs for Deledio to keep him.
Effectively we pay the equivalent for these 2 players the same as say a Franklin and Hodge.
Cbf going into detail but when you start using your salary cap up with paying overs for players it gets full quickly.
There is also a 3rd scenario he can decide not to sign and go in PSD? Or is that gone now
I'm with you on this one. Free agency could be the permanent death knell for clubs like the Tiges who have a bad reputation for making finals or clubs that are somehow on the nose.
Every 2 years we may have to pay over the odds for a player and it will kill us.
What about in 2 years if we have to pay over for Batchelor, he won't be available for free agency but he could nominate, once the culture of club swapping for a bigger cheque comes along, well look at rugby league, players leave mid season.
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Richmond only ever had success when there was free agency. We have been the worst club in the AFL since the draft began. Instead of looking at Free Agency as a negative the club and supporters should see it as our opportunity to once again rule the AFL jungle. Its kill or be killed in free agency. The clubs that adapt will be winners the clubs who are negative will flounder. Its time for some heavy handed and ruthless administration against our opponents. Its time for us to be a success again. Free Agency will be Tiger Time Again!
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Great post 10 flags :thumbsup
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It's all in the timing.
A young team on the way up with smart offield management has shown to be enticing to good players, ie. North Melb in the 70s with the 10year rule.
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Richmond only ever had success when there was free agency. We have been the worst club in the AFL since the draft began. Instead of looking at Free Agency as a negative the club and supporters should see it as our opportunity to once again rule the AFL jungle. Its kill or be killed in free agency. The clubs that adapt will be winners the clubs who are negative will flounder. Its time for some heavy handed and ruthless administration against our opponents. Its time for us to be a success again. Free Agency will be Tiger Time Again!
good point 10fl...the sun will continue to rise and Ive got two words to say to Lids.."Nathan Buckley"...he walked out on the Liosn for supposedly better prospects and denied himself 3 flags, wouldnt suprise me in the least to see history repeat itself here :shh
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Richmond only ever had success when there was free agency. We have been the worst club in the AFL since the draft began. Instead of looking at Free Agency as a negative the club and supporters should see it as our opportunity to once again rule the AFL jungle. Its kill or be killed in free agency. The clubs that adapt will be winners the clubs who are negative will flounder. Its time for some heavy handed and ruthless administration against our opponents. Its time for us to be a success again. Free Agency will be Tiger Time Again!
good point 10fl...the sun will continue to rise and Ive got two words to say to Lids.."Nathan Buckley"...he walked out on the Liosn for supposedly better prospects and denied himself 3 flags, wouldnt suprise me in the least to see history repeat itself here :shh
Only 3 - I can see at least 5 on the horizon. These other clubs wont know where to hide when our administration gets a hold of them during free agency. Where gonna ream those barstards and its their fault so we will have nothing to feel guilty about. Its Tiger Time Gentlemen!
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Richmond only ever had success when there was free agency. We have been the worst club in the AFL since the draft began. Instead of looking at Free Agency as a negative the club and supporters should see it as our opportunity to once again rule the AFL jungle. Its kill or be killed in free agency. The clubs that adapt will be winners the clubs who are negative will flounder. Its time for some heavy handed and ruthless administration against our opponents. Its time for us to be a success again. Free Agency will be Tiger Time Again!
good point 10fl...the sun will continue to rise and Ive got two words to say to Lids.."Nathan Buckley"...he walked out on the Liosn for supposedly better prospects and denied himself 3 flags, wouldnt suprise me in the least to see history repeat itself here :shh
Only 3 - I can see at least 5 on the horizon. These other clubs wont know where to hide when our administration gets a hold of them during free agency. Where gonna ream those barstards and its their fault so we will have nothing to feel guilty about. Its Tiger Time Gentlemen!
:gotigers
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No freedom yet for loyal Tiger Deledio
Jake Niall
The Age
January 29, 2012
BRETT Deledio was able to choose football over cricket, but, unlike the willow-wielders who can play for whichever state or Indian Premier League outfit that will have them, Deledio had no say in his choice of club. As the No. 1 pick, he was sentenced to play for Richmond.
Much has already been made of the fact that Deledio and fellow No. 1 draft pick Brendon Goddard will be eligible for free agency at season's end. Yet, as the rules and club landscape stand today - and there is the prospect of a slight fiddle with those complicated rules - that pair have fairly limited options. At year's end, they are restricted free agents, which allows their clubs to retain them by matching the best offer.
Deledio is entering his eighth year. Given the circumstances, the best course for him is: Sign a two-year deal with Richmond this year and make himself an unrestricted free agent at the conclusion of 2014.
Richmond couldn't match any offer then. He could simply walk to whichever club - Essendon, Carlton, Geelong - could accommodate him under its salary cap. If he left the Tigers after 2012, as a restricted free agent, however, his choices narrow greatly, because few top eight teams will have the scope to pay any player the $650-700,000 or more that Richmond mightn't match.
Deledio would be giving the Tigers another two years in which to demonstrate that they're really building a team that can contend. Should Richmond fail to make the finals by 2014, few - besides rusted-on, fundamentalist Punt Rd-enders - would deny him the opportunity to ply his talents at a team that has premiership prospects. After 10 years for zero finals, no one could say that he hadn't given Richmond a fair go.
In 2012, Essendon and Sydney might be the only top-eight teams with the capacity to pay that type of dollar, $650,000-plus, for a gun player. Collingwood, Hawthorn, Geelong and Carlton certainly can't afford that - they're finding it hard enough to retain everyone, much less recruit A-graders. One doubts West Coast would bid and the Saints want to reduce their high-player payments.
The internet speculation about Goddard becoming a Blue, thus, is ridiculous. How can Carlton pay Chris Judd almost a million dollars, accommodate Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs et al and find an additional $700,000 or more to purloin Goddard? Even if he had no restrictions on his movement, the stronger teams don't have the room for him, or for Deledio for that matter, unless they are willing to jettison expensive players or lose them.
Goddard and Deledio can consider Greater Western Sydney, which can sign anyone. To move there, however, would be entirely about money, since the Giants won't contend for four or five years.
The year 2012 won't be as cataclysmic as the very bad John Cusack movie about that year (the earth's crust explodes, Cusack tries, but cannot save the film). Free agency (FA) is a labour market reform, a limited loosening of a heavily regulated work place, rather than a revolution. The unfettered older players with 10 years' service might well end up as the most heavily traded commodity.
Even now, there's some important fine print in the FA system that the league and the AFL Players' Association are clarifying. By one reading of the rules, the likes of Deledio, Travis Cloke, Harry O'Brien and others from the draft/rookie class of 2004 would jeopardise their chances of becoming unrestricted free agents from the end of 2014 if they signed contracts during this coming season.
Yes, this can be confusing to journalists, too. In essence, the rule says that a player isn't unshackled and totally ''free'' until he has completed a) eight years and b) another, subsequent contract of at least two years, making him a 10-year player.
By the letter of the law, Deledio and Cloke have no incentive for re-signing until the season is over, even if they want to stay - a scenario that invites unseemly, potentially destabilising speculation. If they re-signed mid-season - as Richmond and Collingwood would prefer - then it could be argued, on a literal interpretation, that they can't be unrestricted, go-anywhere free agents once that contract expires.
Goddard, technically speaking, is restricted because he signed a three-year deal late in 2009, his seventh season. If he had signed 12 months later, he would be free to play anywhere now. The Saints believe that his movements are restricted.
One would imagine that the AFL will cede to the players' request and allow players to sign mid-season, without risking their future freedom; otherwise, there is a huge anomaly that doesn't help the players, the clubs or the league. The one party it might assist is the media, since it fuels speculation about the players' intentions.
Whatever course Deledio, Goddard, Cloke and company choose, they aren't truly free yet. Eight years isn't enough. Unless you've got 10 years service, or are willing to shift to a club that's down the ladder, free agency could be seen as, literally, sweet FA.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/no-freedom-yet-for-loyal-tiger-deledio-20120128-1qn9t.html#ixzz1kqjjOIUw
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'no freedom' hey Jake?
Go bite my arse
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Lids isn't the only one prepared to wait to re-sign. Patrick Dangerfield is also coming out of contract and has put off signing a new deal until later this year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-no-rush-ill-sign-later/story-e6frf9jf-1226258910629
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There will be a large number of players that wait to re-sign this year.
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Newman said on SEN he's been trying to convince Lids to sign since reading the article. Felt that he didn't want Lid's signature hanging over the Tigers season ala Scully.
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Lids isn't the only one prepared to wait to re-sign. Patrick Dangerfield is also coming out of contract and has put off signing a new deal until later this year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-no-rush-ill-sign-later/story-e6frf9jf-1226258910629
Wouldn't mind this bloke in a Tigers jumper :p
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Newman said on SEN he's been trying to convince Lids to sign since reading the article. Felt that he didn't want Lid's signature hanging over the Tigers season ala Scully.
Dead right this is what I said from the start. Ala Scully and Ablett.......not good enough, this will affect the team all year, the press will ensure this..
I actually think he will go if not signed up by seasons end, he will look at others players going where and where the premiership option is.....
See you Brett, thanks for f.... all.
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Newman said on SEN he's been trying to convince Lids to sign since reading the article. Felt that he didn't want Lid's signature hanging over the Tigers season ala Scully.
Dead right this is what I said from the start. Ala Scully and Ablett.......not good enough, this will affect the team all year, the press will ensure this..
I actually think he will go if not signed up by seasons end, he will look at others players going where and where the premiership option is.....
See you Brett, thanks for f.... all.
Don't panic WAT, Edwards will step up and take his place, we won't need Lids by seasons end anyway :lol
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Newman said on SEN he's been trying to convince Lids to sign since reading the article. Felt that he didn't want Lid's signature hanging over the Tigers season ala Scully.
Dead right this is what I said from the start. Ala Scully and Ablett.......not good enough, this will affect the team all year, the press will ensure this..
I actually think he will go if not signed up by seasons end, he will look at others players going where and where the premiership option is.....
See you Brett, thanks for f.... all.
Don't panic WAT, Edwards will step up and take his place, we won't need Lids by seasons end anyway :lol
:help :thumbsup
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See you Brett, thanks for f.... all.
That is so low. Even worse than normal.
The sooner people work out that football is now a professional BUSINESS, the better.
This situation is so simple its infuriating that people cant understand the logic.
1 - He waits till end of year, get offered a big amount by another club. Richmond match his market WORTH. Smart BUSINESS by Lids, and more to the point, fair BUSINESS. He signs this contract for 2 years.
2 - The 2 years is completed and 10 yrs up, again Lids waits to sign, smart BUSINESS. He finds out his un-restricted value, and again chooses to stay at Richmond for his market WORTH. Thus showing loyalty and smart BUSINESS.
All you people on your high horse criticise Lid's for lack of loyalty. When has he ever shown a lack of loyalty, when has he ever not put in 100% for the yellow and black.
I think its only fair that Brett gets paid what he is worth. You would do exactly the same in your chosen BUSINESS.
The loyalty part for lids will come after 10 yrs.
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Good post Damo but if Deledio walks for more coin you can hardly blame supporters for being angry.
This is the conflict.
For the players sport is a professional business but for supporters it's still it's an emotional roller-coaster where passion has little room for logic.
Richo will always be loved by the Tiger faithful but he's a dying breed.
In an age where cash talks and loyalty walks, supporters will lose connection with footballers/mercenaries.
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See you Brett, thanks for f.... all.
That is so low. Even worse than normal.
The sooner people work out that football is now a professional BUSINESS, the better.
This situation is so simple its infuriating that people cant understand the logic.
1 - He waits till end of year, get offered a big amount by another club. Richmond match his market WORTH. Smart BUSINESS by Lids, and more to the point, fair BUSINESS. He signs this contract for 2 years.
2 - The 2 years is completed and 10 yrs up, again Lids waits to sign, smart BUSINESS. He finds out his un-restricted value, and again chooses to stay at Richmond for his market WORTH. Thus showing loyalty and smart BUSINESS.
All you people on your high horse criticise Lid's for lack of loyalty. When has he ever shown a lack of loyalty, when has he ever not put in 100% for the yellow and black.
I think its only fair that Brett gets paid what he is worth. You would do exactly the same in your chosen BUSINESS.
The loyalty part for lids will come after 10 yrs.
This
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Here's the funny thing.
If a player is an old fashioned battler who gives his all, or if a good player is getting on a bit, supporters will still call for him to be given the ahrse.
No place for sentiment, we must move on and do what is best for the club.
Yet if a good player wants to leave for money of better chances of success, to do what is best for him, he is a mongrel dog.
Loyalty is a two way street, but many supporters want it one way.
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Loyalty is a two way street, but many supporters want it one way.
Maybe we should all switch to a team that's more successful and brings us more joy too.
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Dead right this is what I said from the start. Ala Scully and Ablett.......not good enough, this will affect the team all year, the press will ensure this..
What was interesting is on SEN this morning Benny Gale said this sort of stuff it isn't the distraction the media portrays it to be. Media likes to make it one but within a club it isn't. Benny's view on this carries more weight in my eyes than the media and "nervous nellie" supporters ;D
Perhaps instead of locking into the media frenzy people should show a little bit more faith in the Club
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Good post Damo but if Deledio walks for more coin you can hardly blame supporters for being angry.
That's "if" Mr Magic and yes I agree supporters will be angry and that's fine I don't blame them
However, at the moment he hasn't walked so I don't understand why any supporter(s) would be telling/saying to him "See you Brett, thanks for f.... all.".
No need for it, no need for the hysteria, save the venom and vitirol for "when" not an "if"
There's alot of water to go under the bridge as they say ;D
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Good post Damo but if Deledio walks for more coin you can hardly blame supporters for being angry.
However, at the moment he hasn't walked so I don't understand why any supporter(s) would be telling/saying to him "See you Brett, thanks for f.... all.".
No need for it, no need for the hysteria, save the venom and vitirol for "when" not an "if"
WAT's words are his own Powelly. 8)
Lids has my support until 'if' he decides to head elsewhere. I'm a fan of his work and hope he stays to finish what he started, even 'if' the coin is better.
That doesn't stop me being a little disgruntled though. It may very well be the best business move for him but that doesn't prevent me disliking the distraction that he hasn't signed on yet when others have shown their commitment. Sorry but I find that a bit selfish in a team sport.
The Cats would give me better value for my membership money and more personal joy too but you don't see me switching. Maybe I'm the fool.
Stay Lids & sign sooner rather than later.
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Newman said on SEN he's been trying to convince Lids to sign since reading the article. Felt that he didn't want Lid's signature hanging over the Tigers season ala Scully.
Dead right this is what I said from the start. Ala Scully and Ablett.......not good enough, this will affect the team all year, the press will ensure this..
I actually think he will go if not signed up by seasons end, he will look at others players going where and where the premiership option is.....
See you Brett, thanks for f.... all.
you're a big stuffen girl :moi
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Here's the funny thing.
If a player is an old fashioned battler who gives his all, or if a good player is getting on a bit, supporters will still call for him to be given the ahrse.
No place for sentiment, we must move on and do what is best for the club.
Yet if a good player wants to leave for money of better chances of success, to do what is best for him, he is a mongrel dog.
Loyalty is a two way street, but many supporters want it one way.
Supporters want whats best for the club first, irrespective. Everything else is secondary.
I think we are making the same point....but you cant blame supporters. If supporters followed players over a club, you'd have people changing teams on a yearly basis.
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Dead right this is what I said from the start. Ala Scully and Ablett.......not good enough, this will affect the team all year, the press will ensure this..
What was interesting is on SEN this morning Benny Gale said this sort of stuff it isn't the distraction the media portrays it to be. Media likes to make it one but within a club it isn't. Benny's view on this carries more weight in my eyes than the media and "nervous nellie" supporters ;D
Perhaps instead of locking into the media frenzy people should show a little bit more faith in the Club
* Maher asked Benny about Lids not re-signing being a distraction and how much time does Benny spend dealing with it. Benny said he doesn't spend as much time on it as you would think. Both parties are frank and candid about where they want to go. Media puts petrol on it which can be a distraction.
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Lets wait and see then eh...I do think some of you need to take your heads out of the sand...
What happens when us supporters say we will leave the club, wont be members again, tear up our tickets etc..... we are called disloyal, weak, discusting etc.....
When a player does it, its ok, if Deledio goes he is a peice of poo IMO same as Ottens was...think what you want, Ottens got his premiership/s and we went further downhill when he left, we still dont have a proven ruckman....
Same will happen when and if Lids goes.
WP, lets watch the media circus as the year develops and the weekly and/or daily questioning about Lids contract, then lets watch the ensuing game after that...
By the middle of the season the players will have had enough of the attention on Lids...is he or isnt he....just like Ablett, dont tell me that didn't affect the GF result, even Bomber said that it did.
Damo....your comment :"That is so low. Even worse than normal"....is it or is Deledio leaving the club (if it happens) that developed him and the supporters and kids following him, wearing his number and wanting to be like him in a RFC jumper lower.....think about it.
Business yes....but where does it end, we cant keep rebuilding pal, if we cant keep players like Lids we are stuffed, then what, Cotch goes when he can, Martin, Riewoldt......where does it end. Look at the Pies, the Blues, Bombers.. they stick fat....something we need at the club.
There is only talk about a player like Lids going to Essendon, Pies, Blues.......who is wanting to come to us from them.....no one...I wonder why!!!!!
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Can see what you're saying WAT but reckon you're getting ahead of yourself. I know you are saying IF but we should have a solid season and I reckon Lids will sign for a few more years. IF we're struggling this year and Lids hasn't signed then the media will start to fire up. Surely we're strong enough to ignore that poo though? If we're not then we are mentally weak
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Wat, comparing a supporter to a player is like comparing apples and pears.
as a player you have a very limited time to achieve success and/or make good money
as a supporter you have a lifetime.
you only want lids to stay because you believe that is best for the club and ultimately best for you. If he decides it is best for him to go elsewhere what's the difference?
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Wat, comparing a supporter to a player is like comparing apples and pears.
as a player you have a very limited time to achieve success and/or make good money
as a supporter you have a lifetime.
you only want lids to stay because you believe that is best for the club and ultimately best for you. If he decides it is best for him to go elsewhere what's the difference?
It might be in your book al but not in mine...
They all make good money, more than I will see and they do it in that short time frame....
My lifetime is fading and I have been waiting since 1980 for more success....so am I asking too much as a member????
I want Lids to stay for the longivity of the club...not for me, I want him to stay for me so I can see that success again....is that too much to ask from a 20+ year member...I think not.
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as member that it is not too much to ask for success, but you admit you want him to stay so YOU can get what you want.
He will make a decision that he thinks is best for him.
same/same
Ultimately, we all do what is best for us and we really shouldn't expect someone else to make sacrifices for our benefit.
the other point is, he is only one man. if we got two first round draft choices for him it may end up increasing your chances of seeing the ultimate success we all crave.
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Wat, comparing a supporter to a player is like comparing apples and pears.
as a player you have a very limited time to achieve success and/or make good money
as a supporter you have a lifetime.
you only want lids to stay because you believe that is best for the club and ultimately best for you. If he decides it is best for him to go elsewhere what's the difference?
Default golden rule of footy, the club is bigger than any player.
It settles all arguements, and rightly so.
As you were Citizens :police:
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Look if he goes he goes, I sure as hell won't influence what he decides either way.
But those are my thoughts of him if he does, maybe I am too loyal for my own good, I am the same in my personal life towards family and friends and at work, to my company and work collegues...thats me.
DD, good point, the club is but without players like Lids the club becomes less, the more we lose the less we become, look at the Saints in the early days, then they lost Lockett......how many years of rebuilding......
I want him to stay so the CLUB and the SUPPORTERS get what we wan't ...not just me, or am I the only one that wants a GF cup??
Regardless of picks we get for him, thats not the point.
If he leaves yes it will be for what is best for him, based on money, perks, endorsements,......overall MONEY MONEY MONEY.......yes he will follow a GF win chance but in the end its MONEY!!!!!
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i dont think so what. i reckon if he leaves it will be for playing in a successful team rather than money.
as an eight year player or restricted free agent if we match whatever offer is presented, he cant just go.
most likely only bottom clubs could offer a larger salary, than us due to salary cap restraints, so it is unlikely he will leave at years end.
in another 2 years though he can just up and go. if we havnt made finals and dont really look like it, could you blame him for going?
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Look if he goes he goes, I sure as hell won't influence what he decides either way.
But those are my thoughts of him if he does, maybe I am too loyal for my own good, I am the same in my personal life towards family and friends and at work, to my company and work collegues...thats me.
DD, good point, the club is but without players like Lids the club becomes less, the more we lose the less we become, look at the Saints in the early days, then they lost Lockett......how many years of rebuilding......
I want him to stay so the CLUB and the SUPPORTERS get what we wan't ...not just me, or am I the only one that wants a GF cup??
Regardless of picks we get for him, thats not the point.
If he leaves yes it will be for what is best for him, based on money, perks, endorsements,......overall MONEY MONEY MONEY.......yes he will follow a GF win chance but in the end its MONEY!!!!!
Pretty much what Ive been thinking big fella. Pretty much.
Any hoot it is what it is.
I'd be more jaded if Cotch or Martin left, that's my personal line in the sand, coz Lids IMHO is yet to show he can blow a game open.
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yeah, agree with that dooks.
lids has also been tainted by wallace........
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I'd be more jaded if Cotch or Martin left, that's my personal line in the sand, coz Lids IMHO is yet to show he can blow a game open.
It's a fair criticism too.
Lids is a fine player but he's not often shown he is a matchwinner in his 150 games. Yes that's a touch unfair given many of the spuds around him previous, not so much now..
Hardwick is giving him a midfield role and he's on show this year. If he's any good he should play a big part in our push to the 8.
You want to play finals bud? Make it happen.
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Lets wait and see then eh...I do think some of you need to take your heads out of the sand...
What happens when us supporters say we will leave the club, wont be members again, tear up our tickets etc..... we are called disloyal, weak, discusting etc.....
When a player does it, its ok, if Deledio goes he is a peice of poo IMO same as Ottens was...think what you want, Ottens got his premiership/s and we went further downhill when he left, we still dont have a proven ruckman....
Same will happen when and if Lids goes.
Head out of the sand? I would suggest you do the same
Why don't you actually read what I wrote!
If you bothered you will see that I actually said that if he leaves then supporters have the right to be angry & bag him. They can call him every name under the sun
But guess what right now @ Feb 3rd 2012 he still plays for the RFC.
You said "See you Brett, thanks for f.... all" based simply of what might happen. Do you understand he asn't left yet so in the context fo what you wrote Damo was spot on - it's a low comment based on an something that may happen not something that has happened.
I will repeat I don't understand why some supporters have turned on him with the venom based simply on a media story that's sole purpose was to get the masses fired up. Will say it again there is no need for it, no need for the hysteria, save the venom and vitirol for "when" not an "if"
Can I make it any clearer for you
WP, lets watch the media circus as the year develops and the weekly and/or daily questioning about Lids contract, then lets watch the ensuing game after that...
By the middle of the season the players will have had enough of the attention on Lids...is he or isnt he....just like Ablett, dont tell me that didn't affect the GF result, even Bomber said that it did.
The media circus will continue because of the reaction of supporters. Bet you they are loving reading this forum and many others. Today in media it was C'woods turm as they were talking about Pendlebury. Every club will go through it people need to get used to it.
And quite frankly if your assertion of the players having enough of the circus by mid season then to me it will mean we haven't improved one iota in the last 2 years because it will just mean they are mentally weak and looking for an excuse to fail because it is all too hard
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I'd be more jaded if Cotch or Martin left, that's my personal line in the sand, coz Lids IMHO is yet to show he can blow a game open.
It's a fair criticism too.
Lids is a fine player but he's not often shown he is a matchwinner in his 150 games. Yes that's a touch unfair given many of the spuds around him previous, not so much now..
Hardwick is giving him a midfield role and he's on show this year. If he's any good he should play a big part in our push to the 8.
You want to play finals bud? Make it happen.
This is it. :thumbsup
We are waiting. Make it happen
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Lids hasn't shown he can blow a game open????????
:rollin
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Lids hasn't shown he can blow a game open????????
:rollin
No he hasn't. Is more consistent than a Wells but lacks the X factor that would have turned a few of our games...
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Lids hasn't shown he can blow a game open????????
:rollin
He's just a very good half back flanker atm TBR. Let's see him have a great year in the centre and revisit this.
"But the challenge is well and truly there. He would like to play midfield, and he's going to get his opportunity, but he needs to show that he's capable of playing with Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Nathan Foley and the players we've got in there. - Hardwick
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Lids hasn't shown he can blow a game open????????
:rollin
wait till he's let loose in the midfield :shh
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Lids hasn't shown he can blow a game open????????
:rollin
wait till he's let loose in the midfield :shh
Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Can someone remind me where he played during his 2 B and F's?
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i dont think so what.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Can someone remind me where he played during his 2 B and F's?
Midfield Boss
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Lets wait and see then eh...I do think some of you need to take your heads out of the sand...
What happens when us supporters say we will leave the club, wont be members again, tear up our tickets etc..... we are called disloyal, weak, discusting etc.....
When a player does it, its ok, if Deledio goes he is a peice of poo IMO same as Ottens was...think what you want, Ottens got his premiership/s and we went further downhill when he left, we still dont have a proven ruckman....
Same will happen when and if Lids goes.
Head out of the sand? I would suggest you do the same
Why don't you actually read what I wrote!
If you bothered you will see that I actually said that if he leaves then supporters have the right to be angry & bag him. They can call him every name under the sun
But guess what right now @ Feb 3rd 2012 he still plays for the RFC.
You said "See you Brett, thanks for f.... all" based simply of what might happen. Do you understand he asn't left yet so in the context fo what you wrote Damo was spot on - it's a low comment based on an something that may happen not something that has happened.
I will repeat I don't understand why some supporters have turned on him with the venom based simply on a media story that's sole purpose was to get the masses fired up. Will say it again there is no need for it, no need for the hysteria, save the venom and vitirol for "when" not an "if"
Can I make it any clearer for you
WP, lets watch the media circus as the year develops and the weekly and/or daily questioning about Lids contract, then lets watch the ensuing game after that...
By the middle of the season the players will have had enough of the attention on Lids...is he or isnt he....just like Ablett, dont tell me that didn't affect the GF result, even Bomber said that it did.
The media circus will continue because of the reaction of supporters. Bet you they are loving reading this forum and many others. Today in media it was C'woods turm as they were talking about Pendlebury. Every club will go through it people need to get used to it.
And quite frankly if your assertion of the players having enough of the circus by mid season then to me it will mean we haven't improved one iota in the last 2 years because it will just mean they are mentally weak and looking for an excuse to fail because it is all too hard
My comment "Thanks for F.... all" Brett was a conclusion to a post, should he leave the club, not based on a post that he has left the club so not a low comment unless you have just finished watching Steel Magnolias WP.......which going by your post you may of.. ;D
"And quite frankly if your assertion of the players having enough of the circus by mid season then to me it will mean we haven't improved one iota in the last 2 years because it will just mean they are mentally weak and looking for an excuse to fail because it is all too hard"
Geelong GF day, Abletts last game and they were much stronger mentally than us mate!!!!!
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Lets wait and see then eh...I do think some of you need to take your heads out of the sand...
Pot, kettle, black, over..............
What happens when us supporters say we will leave the club, wont be members again, tear up our tickets etc..... we are called disloyal, weak, discusting etc.....
When a player does it, its ok, if Deledio goes he is a peice of poo IMO same as Ottens was...think what you want, Ottens got his premiership/s and we went further downhill when he left, we still dont have a proven ruckman....
One significant difference is that we pay money to barrack for a club in the hope of success. AFL players don't get to choose where they play (otherwise Lids would be at Carlton) and they are employed by their club to do a job - not barrack.
Same will happen when and if Lids goes.
Only if we fail in providing the right environment that encourages top line employees to stay.
WP, lets watch the media circus as the year develops and the weekly and/or daily questioning about Lids contract, then lets watch the ensuing game after that...
By the middle of the season the players will have had enough of the attention on Lids...is he or isnt he....just like Ablett, dont tell me that didn't affect the GF result, even Bomber said that it did.
Lids doesn't come close to having the stature or presence in the AFL that Ablett did. Pendlebury and a couple of others yet to be 'outed' will demand far more media scrutiny than Lids as the season progresses.
Damo....your comment :"That is so low. Even worse than normal"....is it or is Deledio leaving the club (if it happens) that developed him and the supporters and kids following him, wearing his number and wanting to be like him in a RFC jumper lower.....think about it.
Deledio has done exactly what he has been paid to do, you can easily mount a case for 'exceeded'. Kids and supporters will follow the very next player that dons the #3 - don't get mistakenly romantic about what that means.
Business yes....but where does it end, we cant keep rebuilding pal, if we cant keep players like Lids we are stuffed, then what, Cotch goes when he can, Martin, Riewoldt......where does it end. Look at the Pies, the Blues, Bombers.. they stick fat....something we need at the club.
We can keep rebuilding if we have to and if thats what it takes to win a flag then so be it. Some club stalwarts missed out on out '67 flag after 23 years in the wilderness - should we have handed the flag back in sympathy? Here's a novel thought - how about supporting the club as a whole in their efforts to make up the huge gap between where we've come from and where we need to be?
There is only talk about a player like Lids going to Essendon, Pies, Blues.......who is wanting to come to us from them.....no one...I wonder why!!!!!
There is only media talk WAT and if you are foolish enough to believe even a small portion of what you read in the sports media then I fear that no-one can save you from yourself.
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Ok Smokey, read your fist quote of what I said......just try it....
People like you accept players leaving for money and glory it and I don't thats it in nutshell, but like I said what will be will be.....
I am loyal in personal and professional life but thats me...
I think football has lost that loyalty aspect and thats a result of the AFL and money, its a shame because most team sports are becoming lost in the almighty dollar because of this. Other than cricket and individual sports.
I won't follow AFL in a few years if it continues down this path, whats the point, years ago you could have a team poster framed up on your wall for years with the same team....These days you cant even put up a photo of the team for a week...
Loyalty.....where is it, where has it gone, money, thats where it's gone!!
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I think football has lost that loyalty aspect and thats a result of the AFL and money, its a shame because most team sports are becoming lost in the almighty dollar because of this. Other than cricket and individual sports.
Loyalty.....where is it, where has it gone, money, thats where it's gone!!
Did you just start watching the game yesterday?? Players have chased the dollar and have been swapping clubs from from day dot!! There are hundres of big name players who have walked out for the mighty dollar it's just hasn't been the last couple of years!
Lmao.......it was only a few months ago you were criticizing the club for not perusing a "Big Fish" during trade week and if we had of landed one you would have been hailing this new player (or dirty club defector) as a hero :wallywink
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I think football has lost that loyalty aspect and thats a result of the AFL and money, its a shame because most team sports are becoming lost in the almighty dollar because of this. Other than cricket and individual sports.
Loyalty.....where is it, where has it gone, money, thats where it's gone!!
Did you just start watching the game yesterday?? Players have chased the dollar and have been swapping clubs from from day dot!! There are hundres of big name players who have walked out for the mighty dollar it's just hasn't been the last couple of years!
Lmao.......it was only a few months ago you were criticizing the club for not perusing a "Big Fish" during trade week and if we had of landed one you would have been hailing this new player (or dirty club defector) as a hero :wallywink
Did you??
Money is nowhere near as important back then as it was now.....why was Polly Farmer selling his Brownlow....no money, these days they are loaded, massive deals etc...so money these days takes importance more so over loyalty...do you get that???
Yep I sure did, because we usually get screwed over so I thought it was about our time to come up on top, if Lids goes we have been done over again.
It's just getting worse thats what I am saying, every year it gets worse.
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I think football has lost that loyalty aspect and thats a result of the AFL and money, its a shame because most team sports are becoming lost in the almighty dollar because of this. Other than cricket and individual sports.
Loyalty.....where is it, where has it gone, money, thats where it's gone!!
Did you just start watching the game yesterday?? Players have chased the dollar and have been swapping clubs from from day dot!! There are hundres of big name players who have walked out for the mighty dollar it's just hasn't been the last couple of years!
Lmao.......it was only a few months ago you were criticizing the club for not perusing a "Big Fish" during trade week and if we had of landed one you would have been hailing this new player (or dirty club defector) as a hero :wallywink
Did you??
Money is nowhere near as important back then as it was now.....why was Polly Farmer selling his Brownlow....no money, these days they are loaded, massive deals etc...so money these days takes importance more so over loyalty...do you get that???
Yep I sure did, because we usually get screwed over so I thought it was about our time to come up on top, if Lids goes we have been done over again.
It's just getting worse thats what I am saying, every year it gets worse.
I honestly can't be bothered arguing with mate but it has become very clear to allot of us that you are slowly loosing the plot :lol
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I think football has lost that loyalty aspect and thats a result of the AFL and money, its a shame because most team sports are becoming lost in the almighty dollar because of this. Other than cricket and individual sports.
Loyalty.....where is it, where has it gone, money, thats where it's gone!!
Did you just start watching the game yesterday?? Players have chased the dollar and have been swapping clubs from from day dot!! There are hundres of big name players who have walked out for the mighty dollar it's just hasn't been the last couple of years!
Lmao.......it was only a few months ago you were criticizing the club for not perusing a "Big Fish" during trade week and if we had of landed one you would have been hailing this new player (or dirty club defector) as a hero :wallywink
Did you??
Money is nowhere near as important back then as it was now.....why was Polly Farmer selling his Brownlow....no money, these days they are loaded, massive deals etc...so money these days takes importance more so over loyalty...do you get that???
Yep I sure did, because we usually get screwed over so I thought it was about our time to come up on top, if Lids goes we have been done over again.
It's just getting worse thats what I am saying, every year it gets worse.
I honestly can't be bothered arguing with mate but it has become very clear to allot of us that you are slowly loosing the plot :lol
Likewise, you have your opinion and I have mine, glad to hear you are still trying to speak for others or gain the backing you need to debate subjects because you are incapable of doing it yourself................a lot by the way not "allot".....who is losing the plot??? :wallywink
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WAT, leave Tassie alone. Spelling has never been his strength
Can someone remind me where he played during his 2 B and F's?
He played in the guts but obviously didn't do very well if he only brought home a couple of B&Fs. Not good enough. ;D
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Yep I sure did, because we usually get screwed over so I thought it was about our time to come up on top.
Really? The last player of any note we lost was probably Ottens and then he had just had back surgery. It took him two years at geelong to recapture close to his best form.
before that you probably have to go back to stuey maxfield.
very few top players change clubs in general, in modern footy, possibly due to to the big money being spread around further than say the early eighties where it was more tempting for players to switch just for money.
As I've already said, i dont believe that deledio will leave for money as it will be hard for most clubs except the bottom ones to outbid us. IF he goes, it will be because he wants to taste some success and i dont see how anyone could begrudge him that.
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Yep I sure did, because we usually get screwed over so I thought it was about our time to come up on top.
Really? The last player of any note we lost was probably Ottens and then he had just had back surgery. It took him two years at geelong to recapture close to his best form.
before that you probably have to go back to stuey maxfield.
very few top players change clubs in general, in modern footy, possibly due to to the big money being spread around further than say the early eighties where it was more tempting for players to switch just for money.
As I've already said, i dont believe that deledio will leave for money as it will be hard for most clubs except the bottom ones to outbid us. IF he goes, it will be because he wants to taste some success and i dont see how anyone could begrudge him that.
Pretty simple logic, never ceases to amaze that people still dont get we can match any club in $$$ b c of the way we have front loaded contracts and still pay minimum salary cap. If he leaves it wont be for more money, it will be bc hes had enough of playing for a perenial hack club and wants success. If we continue improving he stays.
simple as that
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Comparing eras for loyalty is so silly.
These days players are full time professional athletes who rely on football to pay the bills and potentially raise a family.
Can't see a difference between this and the days when players worked 9-5?????
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Comparing eras for loyalty is so silly.
Can't see a difference between this and the days when players worked 9-5?????
Ok, thats fine, I can, like I said before get a poster of team from years ago and see how long you could keep it on your wall for, do the same now......
Really, what about when they used to drink a 6 pack and smoke Winnie reds before a game.......yep no difference at all......
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The full interview is in the other thread but here is the snippet of what Gary March said about Lids not re-signing yet ....
Tony Greenberg: Let’s cut to the chase . . . are you concerned that Brett Deledio has put contract talks on hold?
Gary March: Brett has been a great player for the Club in the past and we obviously want that to be the case into the future. He was recently made a life member, is a dual Jack Dyer Medallist, and a valuable member of our leadership group. We clearly want him to remain with the Club and I am confident that will be the case. He wants to play finals and there isn’t one person at Tigerland who doesn’t feel the same way. We are all working towards making that happen.
Link (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/128644/default.aspx)
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Deledio needs free agent clarity
By Kim Hagdorn
Sports News First
8 February 2012
COMPLICATIONS in finer details of AFL free agency regulations could delay any potential new contract for Richmond star Brett Deledio.
The league, AFL Player’s Association and some of the game’s top managers are attempting to complete a full understanding of free agency fine-print matters with Deledio’s case apparently especially relevant.
The veteran Tiger is out of contract at the end of the 2012 AFL season and looms as one of the biggest targets for other clubs to lure if Deledio goes onto the open market.
Deledio, 24, could wait until the end of the season to complete any negotiations with Tigers management if uncertainty on his free agency qualifications continues.
AFL football operations boss Adrian Anderson will release a full list of free agency candidates late into March, expected to be within days of the new premiership season launch.
Deledio will have played eight seasons at Richmond and under proposed rules would become what will be designated as a ‘restricted’ free agent.
A ‘restricted’ free agent will be able to switch to another club of his choice, if his original club is unable to match any new financial package on offer.
A player that has served 10 years or more at the one club will be able to move to any new outfit totally unrestricted.
St Kilda ace Brendon Goddard is out of contract at the end of 2012 after 10 seasons with the Saints and shapes as the biggest free agent on the poaching market.
Player agents and a number of league clubs are seeking a clearer clarification on whether a player in Deledio’s case will be considered an ‘unrestricted’ free agent at the completion of any contract he may sign before the end of his eighth season.
An uncertainty appears to be that if the star Tiger signs a deal before the end of this season, he will still be considered a ‘restricted’ free agent at the end of that agreement.
It is unclear that if Deledio signed a new Tigers agreement before the end of his eighth season, that when his newest contract expired he would still fall in a ‘restricted’ player category.
Logical argument calls for Deledio to be considered a totally unrestricted agent and free to move wherever he might choose at the end of a 10-year term with the Tigers, regardless of when he signs his new contract.
It is understood the classy midfielder and Tigers management could agree to a new two or even a three-year deal, if the league and AFLPA can confirm that Deledio would be a free agent and not restricted at the end of an 11-year career based at Punt Road.
Deledio is already a proven Tigers servant with 150 games as well as a two-time fairest-and-best winner from 2008-09 and was runner-up to the club’s top award last season, behind brilliant young gun Trent Cotchin.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/02/08/deledio-needs-free-agent-clarity/
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RICHMOND star Brett Deledio is hopeful of signing a contract extension in coming months, saying he is a Tiger at heart.
The 150-game player last night revealed his manager Anthony McConville was set to meet with the club to talk about a long-term deal.
Asked about his passion for the club, he told Fox Footy: "I love the Tigers."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-reece-conca-to-come-under-scrutiny-for-off-ball-hit/story-e6frf9jf-1226274290089
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:thumbsup
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RICHMOND star Brett Deledio is hopeful of signing a contract extension in coming months, saying he is a Tiger at heart.
The 150-game player last night revealed his manager Anthony McConville was set to meet with the club to talk about a long-term deal.
Asked about his passion for the club, he told Fox Footy: "I love the Tigers."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-reece-conca-to-come-under-scrutiny-for-off-ball-hit/story-e6frf9jf-1226274290089
Seriously and I will be shot to pieces here but I don't care, I would offer Deledio a 4-5 year deal.... :o.....obviously with certain clauses based around performance, injuries...etc...
We really need this guy to stay not only for the club but to encourage others to stay as well.
We stuffed up many years ago signing Gasper for that many years but he is not one 3rd of the player Deledio is.
Big player...big contract!!!!!
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RICHMOND star Brett Deledio is hopeful of signing a contract extension in coming months, saying he is a Tiger at heart.
The 150-game player last night revealed his manager Anthony McConville was set to meet with the club to talk about a long-term deal.
Asked about his passion for the club, he told Fox Footy: "I love the Tigers."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-reece-conca-to-come-under-scrutiny-for-off-ball-hit/story-e6frf9jf-1226274290089
Seriously and I will be shot to pieces here but I don't care, I would offer Deledio a 4-5 year deal.... :o.....obviously with certain clauses based around performance, injuries...etc...
We really need this guy to stay not only for the club but to encourage others to stay as well.
We stuffed up many years ago signing Gasper for that many years but he is not one 3rd of the player Deledio is.
Big player...big contract!!!!!
I've read everyones posts here WAT and yeah it is a worry but to me not a big one. I think he will sign up and yep I am sure it will be a long term deal front ended of course and he will be a Tiger for life just like Cotch Dusty Jack and any other boys who make the top grade at our club.
The media like rattling a few cages on slow news days. :thumbsup
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RICHMOND star Brett Deledio is hopeful of signing a contract extension in coming months, saying he is a Tiger at heart.
The 150-game player last night revealed his manager Anthony McConville was set to meet with the club to talk about a long-term deal.
Asked about his passion for the club, he told Fox Footy: "I love the Tigers."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-reece-conca-to-come-under-scrutiny-for-off-ball-hit/story-e6frf9jf-1226274290089
Seriously and I will be shot to pieces here but I don't care, I would offer Deledio a 4-5 year deal.... :o.....obviously with certain clauses based around performance, injuries...etc...
We really need this guy to stay not only for the club but to encourage others to stay as well.
We stuffed up many years ago signing Gasper for that many years but he is not one 3rd of the player Deledio is.
Big player...big contract!!!!!
I've read everyones posts here WAT and yeah it is a worry but to me not a big one. I think he will sign up and yep I am sure it will be a long term deal front ended of course and he will be a Tiger for life just like Cotch Dusty Jack and any other boys who make the top grade at our club.
The media like rattling a few cages on slow news days. :thumbsup
Yeah true....be great to have those 4 together for the football lives!!!!
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seems genuine does Lids, not cagey like others! Confidant he will stay.
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The free agency rules could end up holding up Lids re-signing until the end of this season...
Destiny to be free?
Jake Niall
The Age
February 23, 2012
ON THE eve of the 2012 season, the AFL has not finalised a key element of free agency that holds major ramifications for St Kilda's Brendon Goddard, Collingwood's Travis Cloke, Richmond's Brett Deledio and their clubs.
For Goddard, there remains a doubt about whether he is a restricted free agent - who St Kilda can retain by matching the best offer - or a completely ''unrestricted'' free agent, who can cross to the club of his choice. Others entering their 10th season could be in a similar position, with a doubt about their status and ability to move to the club of their choice.
For Cloke and Deledio, who are entering their eighth season and are therefore restricted free agents, discussions between the AFL and the AFL Players Association will determine whether they have a strong disincentive for re-signing with their clubs during the 2012 season.
The AFL's head of legal affairs, Andrew Dillon, said the rule had not been finalised and there was still a question of the qualifying rules for unrestricted free agents. ''We've got to come down one way or the other, but we're still discussing it with the players' association.''
The heart of the issue is the timing of contracts signed.
Goddard's management recently sought clarification. The initial ruling was that he was restricted, but the AFLPA believes that he should be unrestricted, according to the spirit of the rules it negotiated.
Concerned clubs also have been seeking clarification about the rules, which have to be finalised soon given that the league is scheduled to release the names of all free agents - restricted and unrestricted - on March 20.
For Collingwood and Richmond, the ruling could affect their chances of recontracting Cloke and Deledio in the course of the season. The same would apply to all clubs with a well-paid player in his eighth season who is coming out of contract.
Players who rank in the top 25 per cent for payments at their club are restricted free agents after eight seasons and can be eligible for unrestricted free agency - completely free - after completing 10 seasons. Players who are in their eighth season, but aren't in the top 25 per cent, are unrestricted.
The issue at stake is whether, to become an unrestricted free agent in his 10th season, a player must have signed his previous contract after the completion of his eighth year. Or, whether he would qualify
if he signed during his eighth season - as Goddard technically did, and as Cloke and Deledio would if they signed with their clubs during the course of the 2012 season.
If the rule went against the players' wishes, then Cloke and Deledio would have a good reason to wait until season's end before re-signing. They would not become unrestricted free agents in two years if they signed during this season, according to this strict reading of the rules. In that case, Goddard would be restricted and St Kilda could keep him by matching the best offer.
There has been no suggestion that Goddard has any interest in leaving the Saints, but he is the best example of a player in that position.
The clubs are keen for this rule to follow the AFLPA view, since it helps them to recontract players, and the AFLPA believes it benefits no one for the rule to be interpreted along those lines.
Goddard signed a three-year deal at the end of the 2009 season, in November. Technically, this counts as during his eighth season, because it was after October 31.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/destiny-to-be-free-20120222-1toc7.html#ixzz1n8MYRS9W
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Was very pleased to catch that interview with Lids the other night.
4 year deal on very good money sounds fair for a player of his ilk.
Sign Lids, sign!
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So lets say he is offered more money by another club then he is with us, do we have to match the offer or can Lids turn around and say I want to stay at the Tigers and take the offer from us which is less....??
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So lets say he is offered more money by another club then he is with us, do we have to match the offer or can Lids turn around and say I want to stay at the Tigers and take the offer from us which is less....??
Why do you care? In your eyes he allready gone :wallywink
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So lets say he is offered more money by another club then he is with us, do we have to match the offer or can Lids turn around and say I want to stay at the Tigers and take the offer from us which is less....??
Why do you care? In your eyes he allready gone :wallywink
Oh God, where did I say he was gone.... ::)......I said he had better bloody stay and he should of signed up by now if he were loyal and if he leaves its for money....so get your facts right.
Now can you answer my question or not... :help
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I have no idea? But I would imagine he could stay for whatever likes? I doubt it could matter someone offered him more.
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So lets say he is offered more money by another club then he is with us, do we have to match the offer or can Lids turn around and say I want to stay at the Tigers and take the offer from us which is less....??
Why do you care? In your eyes he allready gone :wallywink
Oh God, where did I say he was gone.... ::)......I said he had better bloody stay and he should of signed up by now if he were loyal and if he leaves its for money....so get your facts right.
Now can you answer my question or not... :help
Oh God.
If we match the deal he has to stay. If we don't he can leave.
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The more I think about it, any club with the $850-900k+ minimum needed to lure Lids wouldn't be one with a star studded line up in consistent finals.
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So lets say he is offered more money by another club then he is with us, do we have to match the offer or can Lids turn around and say I want to stay at the Tigers and take the offer from us which is less....??
Why do you care? In your eyes he allready gone :wallywink
Oh God, another knob, where did I say he was gone.... ::)......I said he had better bloody stay and he should of signed up by now if he were loyal and if he leaves its for money....so get your facts right.
Now can you answer my question or not... :help
Oh God.
If we match the deal he has to stay. If we don't he can leave.
READ MY QUESTION...if he wants to stay and we can only offer less money does he have to leave for the bigger package or can he stay for less, of his own accord.....get it... :wallywink
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So lets say he is offered more money by another club then he is with us, do we have to match the offer or can Lids turn around and say I want to stay at the Tigers and take the offer from us which is less....??
Why do you care? In your eyes he allready gone :wallywink
Oh God, another knob, where did I say he was gone.... ::)......I said he had better bloody stay and he should of signed up by now if he were loyal and if he leaves its for money....so get your facts right.
Now can you answer my question or not... :help
Oh God.
If we match the deal he has to stay. If we don't he can leave.
READ MY QUESTION...if he wants to stay and we can only offer less money does he have to leave for the bigger package or can he stay for less, of his own accord.....get it... :wallywink
If he wants to stay and is happy with what we offer then it doesn't matter a wooden nickel what anyone else offers :thumbsup
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So lets say he is offered more money by another club then he is with us, do we have to match the offer or can Lids turn around and say I want to stay at the Tigers and take the offer from us which is less....??
Why do you care? In your eyes he allready gone :wallywink
Oh God, another knob, where did I say he was gone.... ::)......I said he had better bloody stay and he should of signed up by now if he were loyal and if he leaves its for money....so get your facts right.
Now can you answer my question or not... :help
Oh God.
If we match the deal he has to stay. If we don't he can leave.
READ MY QUESTION...if he wants to stay and we can only offer less money does he have to leave for the bigger package or can he stay for less, of his own accord.....get it... :wallywink
It's up to him. Hence 'free agency'.
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So lets say he is offered more money by another club then he is with us, do we have to match the offer or can Lids turn around and say I want to stay at the Tigers and take the offer from us which is less....??
Why do you care? In your eyes he allready gone :wallywink
Oh God, another knob, where did I say he was gone.... ::)......I said he had better bloody stay and he should of signed up by now if he were loyal and if he leaves its for money....so get your facts right.
Now can you answer my question or not... :help
Oh God.
If we match the deal he has to stay. If we don't he can leave.
READ MY QUESTION...if he wants to stay and we can only offer less money does he have to leave for the bigger package or can he stay for less, of his own accord.....get it... :wallywink
If he wants to stay and is happy with what we offer then it doesn't matter a wooden nickel what anyone else offers :thumbsup
Thank you, easy answer....
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:lol
How are you going mate?
YSC.
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Leave out the personal insults ppl! ::)
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Holy moly. Everyone is on the crazies tonight. :outtahere
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Holy moly. Everyone is on the crazies tonight. :outtahere
Season proper is so near and yet so far. Understandable if not funny. :)
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Now this sounds a bit more positive........just sign Brett, get you Manager to get his ass moving before the season starts...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/bryce-gibbs-and-brett-deledio-vow-to-stay-with-their-clubs/story-e6frf9jf-1226285611250
Bryce Gibbs and Brett Deledio vow to stay with their clubs
by: Sam Edmund
From: Herald Sun
March 01, 2012
OUT-of-contract stars Bryce Gibbs and Brett Deledio have pledged their futures to their clubs, rejecting potential million-dollar offers to move.
Carlton young gun Gibbs and Richmond's dual best and fairest Deledio are among several big-name players vulnerable to raids by Greater Western Sydney, with Deledio shaping as the test case for free agency.
The pair told the Herald Sun they were going nowhere and planned to put that in writing as soon as possible.
Deledio, the youngest player to reach 150 games in Richmond history, said talks had started on a new deal.
He said there had been no offer made by GWS.
"It's in the hands of my manager. He's in the midst of contract talks with the club," Deledio said.
"I love the place. They've always been really good to me and I'm hoping to have it all sorted out in the not-too-distant future, but these things take time and I can't expect it to be rushed.
"If something comes up and it's right to go, then we'll be right to go. It's definitely not the case that I want to wait until the end of the season to get it done. It's all about getting the right deal and making sure everything is done right."
Gibbs and Deledio were talking at a demonstration of the miCoach Speed Cell - the latest digital training technology that measures athletic performance and sends it wirelessly to a smartphone or PC via a chip implanted in a boot.
The adidas product allows all footballers to record and review their data just like AFL players.
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Here's the video of Lids talking about his contract with Gibbs...
http://video.heraldsun.com.au/2203445931
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I wonder if some of the "nervous nellies" who got caught up with the media's hysteria who implied Deledio was goneskis, disloyal and told him to just "f" off are satisfied and prepared to apologies for over the top rants ;D
Probably not............silly me
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You would think so... ;D
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Hopefully the deal is done sooner than later
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I wonder if some of the "nervous nellies" who got caught up with the media's hysteria who implied Deledio was goneskis, disloyal and told him to just "f" off are satisfied and prepared to apologies for over the top rants ;D
I must have missed the part in the video where he said he'd signed. ;D
Until both Gibbs and Lids sign on the dotted line then anything is possible.
Their managers are chasing the best deal for their clients.
If the club comes to the party great and there is no issue, if not they might fall in love with some other club.
Tom Scully wanted to be a one club player too and was very happy at Melbourne..
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Deledio did not "VOW" to stay at richmond at all. He's only said he will stay if what is offered by the club is in agreement with what he expects.
Vow my arse. He's NOT over the line yet, but he has squarely put the pressure back on the administration.
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smooth operator is the Lid :shh
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smooth operator is the Lid :shh
:thumbsup
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I must have missed the part in the video where he said he'd signed. ;D
Really need one of those "fishing" smileys because obviously this one ;D isn't doing the trick ;D :santa :cheers
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I must have missed the part in the video where he said he'd signed. ;D
Really need one of those "fishing" smileys because obviously this one ;D isn't doing the trick ;D :santa :cheers
(http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/msn-emoticons/msn-emoticon-fishing-175.gif) (http://freesmileyface.net)
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I must have missed the part in the video where he said he'd signed. ;D
Really need one of those "fishing" smileys because obviously this one ;D isn't doing the trick ;D :santa :cheers
Unlike a fish I have a long memory William. I'll save that one up. ;) 8)
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IDGAF. Really, if he wants to go let him and we will get compensated. If he wants to stay, thats fine, so long as his contract is fair to all parties. End of story.
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Deledio did not "VOW" to stay at richmond at all. He's only said he will stay if what is offered by the club is in agreement with what he expects.
Vow my behind. He's NOT over the line yet, but he has squarely put the pressure back on the administration.
I wouldnt be quite so melodramatic RR, whilst it's not usually my policy to play a shot before the balls been bowled, im pretty comfortable with how Lids responded. indeed its bad news if players arent prepared to negotiate during the season...REF: Ablett, Scully et al to the contrary its good news if players are prepared to talk turkey. id be tabling Lids a 900k flat rate with a 600k Norm smith BONUS...beat that and play fair GWS :shh
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safe as houses. :thumbsup
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I wonder if some of the "nervous nellies" who got caught up with the media's hysteria who implied Deledio was goneskis, disloyal and told him to just "f" off are satisfied and prepared to apologies for over the top rants ;D
Probably not............silly me
Yep should of believed you WP...you are ALWAYS right..... :whistle ::) ::)
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I wonder if some of the "nervous nellies" who got caught up with the media's hysteria who implied Deledio was goneskis, disloyal and told him to just "f" off are satisfied and prepared to apologies for over the top rants ;D
Probably not............silly me
BTW I think if you go back through my posts you will find I said IF...IF...IF he left.......silly you... ;D
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BTW I think if you go back through my posts you will find I said IF...IF...IF he left.......silly you... ;D
Fuuny there's no IF in this one:
Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
The only IF in the rest of the post of yours BTW was "If he goes so does my membership"
Silly me ;D
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Deledio did not "VOW" to stay at richmond at all. He's only said he will stay if what is offered by the club is in agreement with what he expects.
Vow my behind. He's NOT over the line yet, but he has squarely put the pressure back on the administration.
I wouldnt be quite so melodramatic RR, whilst it's not usually my policy to play a shot before the balls been bowled, im pretty comfortable with how Lids responded. indeed its bad news if players arent prepared to negotiate during the season...REF: Ablett, Scully et al to the contrary its good news if players are prepared to talk turkey. id be tabling Lids a 900k flat rate with a 600k Norm smith BONUS...beat that and play fair GWS :shh
You must have read a different post to what I wrote, because there was absolutely no melodrama in my post what so ever. I just stated what actually happened.
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Wouldn't be the first time Bojangleburg has responded to a perfectly reasonable post as if it was written by Tony Shaw.
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BTW I think if you go back through my posts you will find I said IF...IF...IF he left.......silly you... ;D
Fuuny there's no IF in this one:
Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
The only IF in the rest of the post of yours BTW was "If he goes so does my membership"
Silly me ;D
Yep silly you again....you missed another one.... :thumbsup
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BTW I think if you go back through my posts you will find I said IF...IF...IF he left.......silly you... ;D
Fuuny there's no IF in this one:
Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
The only IF in the rest of the post of yours BTW was "If he goes so does my membership"
Silly me ;D
Yep silly you again....you missed another one.... :thumbsup
Really
Twisting what you said it would seem
You said: "Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. "
Nowhere did you say "he can stuff off now if he choses to leave".
You said if you were asked in your opinion what he was doing was pretty crappy and he either needed to commit to club NOW or he could stuff off
Or is it case of what you typed then wasn't exactly what you meant but is now what you are trying to say ;D
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BTW I think if you go back through my posts you will find I said IF...IF...IF he left.......silly you... ;D
Fuuny there's no IF in this one:
Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
The only IF in the rest of the post of yours BTW was "If he goes so does my membership"
Silly me ;D
Yep silly you again....you missed another one.... :thumbsup
Really
Twisting what you said it would seem
You said: "Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. "
Nowhere did you say "he can stuff off now if he choses to leave".
You said if you were asked in your opinion what he was doing was pretty crappy and he either needed to commit to club NOW or he could stuff off
Or is it case of what you typed then wasn't exactly what you meant but is now what you are trying to say ;D
Hey Willy....simply, you missed the IF mate. :thumbsup
BTW thats was the was I felt IF he left or was going to leave or did not committ to the club, which BTW he hadn't indicated up to that point he was going to....
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Deledio did not "VOW" to stay at richmond at all. He's only said he will stay if what is offered by the club is in agreement with what he expects.
Vow my behind. He's NOT over the line yet, but he has squarely put the pressure back on the administration.
I wouldnt be quite so melodramatic RR, whilst it's not usually my policy to play a shot before the balls been bowled, im pretty comfortable with how Lids responded. indeed its bad news if players arent prepared to negotiate during the season...REF: Ablett, Scully et al to the contrary its good news if players are prepared to talk turkey. id be tabling Lids a 900k flat rate with a 600k Norm smith BONUS...beat that and play fair GWS :shh
You must have read a different post to what I wrote, because there was absolutely no melodrama in my post what so ever. I just stated what actually happened.
oh sorry, i interpreted "VOW" as being overly emphatic, were the caps by accident then ::)
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I'm confident he'll stay.
Scully and Ablett didn't commit and toed the same line when asked "I'll sit down with my manager at the end of the season and I will talk about it then"
At least Lids has been more open. I know it means squat but I just feel that he is being genuine about his desire on staying and committing to us. :thumbsup
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I'm confident he'll stay.
Scully and Ablett didn't commit and toed the same line when asked "I'll sit down with my manager at the end of the season and I will talk about it then"
At least Lids has been more open. I know it means squat but I just feel that he is being genuine about his desire on staying and committing to us. :thumbsup
Thats right, at least he has NOW come out and said he will stay....
Wouldn't wan't to change his mind though hey WP......IF he does...... :police:
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[Hey Willy....simply, you missed the IF mate. :thumbsup
BTW thats was the was I felt IF he left or was going to leave or did not committ to the club, which BTW he hadn't indicated up to that point he was going to....
But's that not what you typed/said ... but IF it makes you feel better and IF that's what you meant then good for you but IF you feel like changing the meaning of what you typed then who am I to try and follow your multiple meanings
You really should be in Canberra, you'd fit right in :thumbsup
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Got to love this forum :rollin.
:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
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(http://www.sadanduseless.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/679.jpg)
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[Hey Willy....simply, you missed the IF mate. :thumbsup
BTW thats was the was I felt IF he left or was going to leave or did not committ to the club, which BTW he hadn't indicated up to that point he was going to....
But's that not what you typed/said ... but IF it makes you feel better and IF that's what you meant then good for you but IF you feel like changing the meaning of what you typed then who am I to try and follow your multiple meanings
You really should be in Canberra, you'd fit right in :thumbsup
I am sure we would both fit right in in Canberra WP, I obviously change my stories to suit and you are never wrong.....what a team.... :thumbsup
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every team needs a moron, so throw in dumbstep dookie
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But's that not what you typed/said ... but IF it makes you feel better and IF that's what you meant then good for you but IF you feel like changing the meaning of what you typed then who am I to try and follow your multiple meanings
You really should be in Canberra, you'd fit right in :thumbsup
I am sure we would both fit right in in Canberra WP, I obviously change my stories to suit and you are never wrong.....what a team.... :thumbsup
:thatsgold
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But's that not what you typed/said ... but IF it makes you feel better and IF that's what you meant then good for you but IF you feel like changing the meaning of what you typed then who am I to try and follow your multiple meanings
You really should be in Canberra, you'd fit right in :thumbsup
I am sure we would both fit right in in Canberra WP, I obviously change my stories to suit and you
are never wrong.....what a team.... :thumbsup
:thatsgold
I think what WAT is trying to say is that he did smoke but in fact did NOT inhale.
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smooth operator is the Lid :shh
:thumbsup
Diamond life, lover boy
He move in space with minimum waste and maximum joy
City lights and business nights
When you require streetcar desire for higher heights
No place for beginners or sensitive hearts
Sentiment is left to chance
No place to be ending but somewhere to start
No need to ask
He's a smooth operator
Smooth operator
Smooth operator
Smooth operator
Coast to coast, L.A. to Chicago, Western male
Across the North and South, to Key Largo, love for sale
Face to face, each classic case
We shadow box and double cross
Yet need the chase
A license to love, insurance to hold
Melts all your memories and change into gold
His eyes are like angels, his heart is cold
No need to ask
He's a smooth operator
Smooth operator
Smooth operator
Smooth operator
...
;D
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[Hey Willy....simply, you missed the IF mate. :thumbsup
BTW thats was the was I felt IF he left or was going to leave or did not committ to the club, which BTW he hadn't indicated up to that point he was going to....
But's that not what you typed/said ... but IF it makes you feel better and IF that's what you meant then good for you but IF you feel like changing the meaning of what you typed then who am I to try and follow your multiple meanings
You really should be in Canberra, you'd fit right in :thumbsup
Snip the insults, you should know better!
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Snip the Sade :chuck
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RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says star Brett Deledio is poised to follow him by signing a new contract with the Tigers.
Hardwick last night ended months of speculation by signing a new deal until the end of 2014.
The deal leaves the re-signing of Deledio as the Tigers' No.1 priority.
Deledio comes out of contract at the end of this season and would be high on the wish-list of GWS and other clubs under free agency.
But Hardwick said this morning he expected the dual Jack Dyer medallist to sign soon.
"We think he's going to be a Richmond footy club player for life and I don't think that's far away," Hardwick said on SEN.
"He knows how important he is to our footy club and for him to become an elite AFL player, I think he'll be a Tiger legend one day, which will be great for Brett and for the Richmond footy club going forward."
http://m.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/tigers-close-to-brett-deledio-signature-says-re-signed-coach-damien-hardwick/story-e6frf9jf-1226300859883
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i think its not far away. :thumbsup
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i think its not far away. :thumbsup
Hopefully before that first bounce!
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No Comment ;D
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No Comment ;D
WP is that sauce or chutney on your collar? ;D
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No Comment ;D
speakkkkk....
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No Comment ;D
WP is that sauce or chutney on your collar? ;D
No sauce or chutney
Chutney knows nothing so by extension I know nothing...
No Comment ;D
speakkkkk....
No comment
I've decided not to make anymore comments on the Deledio contract because it seems I upset people when i do so it's better to just shut up ;D
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Hark!! Is that a fat lady singing??
Not yet me laddies, not yet
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in the manilla envelope. :cheers
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No Comment ;D
WP is that sauce or chutney on your collar? ;D
No sauce or chutney
Chutney knows nothing so by extension I know nothing...
No comment
I've decided not to make anymore comments on the Deledio contract because it seems I upset people when i do so it's better to just shut up ;D
Bring out the Kleenex...
Are you part of his negotiations are you, so did you know for sure all along??????
Great he is going to sign, like I said yesterday it would be great to see him sign a week or a few days before the game against the Blues...but the earlier the better.
Now we know when he signs he is committed to the RFC...thats all I ever wanted him to do!!!!!!!
Edited to correct the quote
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Didn't you want him to bugger off as he hadn't signed when you posted your original thoughts? :huh He still hasn't signed . . . so what has changed?
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Bring out the Kleenex...
Are you part of his negotiations are you, so did you know for sure all along??????
What are you on about ? :-\
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:lol
I think WAT has a crush on you, billy
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:lol
I think WAT has a crush on you, billy
:gobdrop :gobdrop
:outtahere
:outtahere
I think WAT needs to loosen up ;D :rollin
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Didn't you want him to bugger off as he hadn't signed when you posted your original thoughts? :huh He still hasn't signed . . . so what has changed?
Another one that takes my posts out of context, no I said if he couldnt commit to the club and he wanted to leave then he could bugger off. At no time did I WANT him to leave.
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:lol
I think WAT has a crush on you, billy
:gobdrop :gobdrop
:outtahere
:outtahere
I think WAT needs to loosen up ;D :rollin
Don't play dumb, actually I argue with you just as much as the missus, but deep down we all know your real true love is Jackstar.... :-*
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Don't play dumb, actually I argue with you just as much as the missus,
"Dont' play dumb" :huh :-\
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Soooooooooo......how's about those tigers? :whistle
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Soooooooooo......how's about those tigers? :whistle
:rollin :lol
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Soooooooooo......how's about those tigers? :whistle
who? :rollin
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:lol
I think WAT has a crush on you, billy
:gobdrop :gobdrop
:outtahere
:outtahere
I think WAT needs to loosen up ;D :rollin
Don't play dumb, actually I argue with you just as much as the missus, but deep down we all know your real true love is Jackstar.... :-*
I actually know WP.
Mate, you have no idea at all.
See WP at most games and actually sit near by.
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Its ok Jackstar, there is plenty of WP to go around, you can share him with Wat.
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:lol
I think WAT has a crush on you, billy
:gobdrop :gobdrop
:outtahere
:outtahere
I think WAT needs to loosen up ;D :rollin
Don't play dumb, actually I argue with you just as much as the missus, but deep down we all know your real true love is Jackstar.... :-*
I actually know WP.
Mate, you have no idea at all.
See WP at most games and actually sit near by.
You sit 'near by'?
Sheesh you must know WP real well :lol
Is there any WP for the rest of us?
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:lol
I think WAT has a crush on you, billy
:gobdrop :gobdrop
:outtahere
:outtahere
I think WAT needs to loosen up ;D :rollin
Don't play dumb, actually I argue with you just as much as the missus, but deep down we all know your real true love is Jackstar.... :-*
I actually know WP.
Mate, you have no idea at all.
See WP at most games and actually sit near by.
Well thats fantastic news thanks for sharing.... :clapping :whistle
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:lol
I think WAT has a crush on you, billy
:gobdrop :gobdrop
:outtahere
:outtahere
I think WAT needs to loosen up ;D :rollin
Don't play dumb, actually I argue with you just as much as the missus, but deep down we all know your real true love is Jackstar.... :-*
I actually know WP.
Mate, you have no idea at all.
See WP at most games and actually sit near by.
You sit 'near by'?
Sheesh you must know him real well :lol
Is there any WP for the rest of us?
Yeah 400 rows near by, they are practically related now.. ;D
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N6 and N7.Hardly 400 rows away
Try 10 metres at tops
Mightytiges as well
Maybe just maybe some people should start going to the footy
It's played at the MCG you know
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Sounds great
Maybe just maybe we can play hide the sausage in the thermos
thanks.
gg
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I enjoy the polarizing nature of WAT posting although, at times, it can be quite polarizing.
I think the hassling of someone who actually makes this forum function is out of line.
It's fine to disagree but you are just making a knob of yourself.
Pull your head in WAT and show some basic respect mate.
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I enjoy the polarizing nature of WAT posting although, at times, it can be quite polarizing.
I think the hassling of someone who actually makes this forum function is out of line.
It's fine to disagree but you are just making a knob of yourself.
Pull your head in WAT and show some basic respect mate.
Actually Y&B pull your own head in and stop being a suck. WP is even joing in, while I do enjoy your posts at times, rarely I might add you are out of line here....
Anyone that takes our banter for more than it is, must be a fool.
WP runs a forum with MT he is not the President of the USA........
Back on topic is about all you can say mate so go away.
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N6 and N7.Hardly 400 rows away
Try 10 metres at tops
Mightytiges as well
Maybe just maybe some people should start going to the footy
It's played at the MCG you know
So does he need a restraining order, you know his seat number.....look out WP..... :police:
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Pointless discussing with idiots
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no worries rainman
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I thought this thread was about Lids contract situation. :whistle
Cmon lads FFS. :help
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no worries rainman
:lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :lol
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Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
Shame on you Deledio, if he goes so does my membership and AFL all together for mine, its just not worth trying to rebuild time and time again after losing players like this...if we do. Clubs like the Blues or the Pies get stronger because players like Lids go there (example) while clubs like us get weaker......
Not happy Jan... :banghead :banghead :banghead
RFC and Deledio should of had this sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm only playing Devils advocate but is this the post in question.
Very passionate past with a million thoughts running through WAT's mind at the time he wrote down what was most pertinent to him regarding the matter hence the rush of the post and the glaring spelling mistakes but that is not the issue just trying to create the panic and passion and thought process of WAT.
Nothing wrong with it BTW and fair enough, however reading through the post again I go back to the top line where it reads
Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now.
The way I read it and how I interpret it means commit to the Tigers or leave now. Now close the door behind you and never come back. Leave see you later that sort of meaning.
Now lets take the word "now" a little further when I say I'm hungry now I mean now I want to eat. Not in an hour not tomorrow "now".
When I say to someone come here now I want them this instant immediately not in 5 minutes not after they go to the toilet not an hour from now. In other words "now".
When I read the word now and it says commit to the club now it means pick up a pen and give me your autograph on a thin piece of paper known as a contract where all your demands and the clubs wants are met and your autograph makes this contract a legitimate and binding piece of paper and when you then end the statement with the words or stuff off now it means sign that contract or legitimate and binding piece of paper that will secure your services for the predisposed period of time notated on this contract or legitimate and binding piece of paper which is indicating the securing of your services for the predisposed period of time or leave now go away now see you now I don't care where you go and what you do.
Now I am not by profession or Education and English Teacher nor a Lawyer nor a Politician but I do know what I read.
Now that I have cleared this matter can we please go back to reading posts regarding Lids contract situation because just like we heard this good news about Dimma I am more than happy to read posts that will hypothesise why he will or will not stay and all the rumour innuendo and banter that goes with it until such time that Lids does sign a contract or legitimate and binding piece of paper securing his services for a predisposed period of time for someone.
I like most are hoping this gets done prior to round 1 as to me this will culminate in the RFC's most fruitful pre season campaign for as far back as this mid to late 30's RFC fan can remember and if he does not sign by then, then I am sure Lids services will be secured by the RFC by the middle of the year.
I believe I have not been personal to anyone and I find for the most part the posts on here from all posters intelligent passionate witty opinionated which is what a forum is and of course pro active to the cause of the RFC.
Thanks lads. :thumbsup
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Now I am not by profession or Education and English Teacher
clearly :lol
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Now I am not by profession or Education and English Teacher
clearly :lol
Only you could get away with such frivolity gerks. :thumbsup
Its always a cavalcade of whimsy with you. :lol :rollin :lol
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Now I am not by profession or Education and English Teacher
clearly :lol
Only you could get away with such frivolity gerks. :thumbsup
Its always a cavalcade of whimsy with you. :lol :rollin :lol
If i've learned one thing from being a Catholic priest it's not to take things too seriously
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no worries rainman
u r offending rainman lol :cheers :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Now I am not by profession or Education and English Teacher
clearly :lol
Only you could get away with such frivolity gerks. :thumbsup
Its always a cavalcade of whimsy with you. :lol :rollin :lol
If i've learned one thing from being a Catholic priest it's not to take things too seriously
Then go out and enjoy St Patrick's Day, drink all the guiness that is available b/c I heard supplies are low and sober up in time for Sunday mass. :thumbsup
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Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now. Look at how Abblet affected Geelong...all bloody year, thats all we herad. How the hell can the rest of the players concerntrate on finals or week to week aith this poo goiung on.
Shame on you Deledio, if he goes so does my membership and AFL all together for mine, its just not worth trying to rebuild time and time again after losing players like this...if we do. Clubs like the Blues or the Pies get stronger because players like Lids go there (example) while clubs like us get weaker......
Not happy Jan... :banghead :banghead :banghead
RFC and Deledio should of had this sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm only playing Devils advocate but is this the post in question.
Very passionate past with a million thoughts running through WAT's mind at the time he wrote down what was most pertinent to him regarding the matter hence the rush of the post and the glaring spelling mistakes but that is not the issue just trying to create the panic and passion and thought process of WAT.
Nothing wrong with it BTW and fair enough, however reading through the post again I go back to the top line where it reads
Pretty crappy on Bretts behalf if you ask me, commit to the club now or stuff off now.
The way I read it and how I interpret it means commit to the Tigers or leave now. Now close the door behind you and never come back. Leave see you later that sort of meaning.
Now lets take the word "now" a little further when I say I'm hungry now I mean now I want to eat. Not in an hour not tomorrow "now".
When I say to someone come here now I want them this instant immediately not in 5 minutes not after they go to the toilet not an hour from now. In other words "now".
When I read the word now and it says commit to the club now it means pick up a pen and give me your autograph on a thin piece of paper known as a contract where all your demands and the clubs wants are met and your autograph makes this contract a legitimate and binding piece of paper and when you then end the statement with the words or stuff off now it means sign that contract or legitimate and binding piece of paper that will secure your services for the predisposed period of time notated on this contract or legitimate and binding piece of paper which is indicating the securing of your services for the predisposed period of time or leave now go away now see you now I don't care where you go and what you do.
Now I am not by profession or Education and English Teacher nor a Lawyer nor a Politician but I do know what I read.
Now that I have cleared this matter can we please go back to reading posts regarding Lids contract situation because just like we heard this good news about Dimma I am more than happy to read posts that will hypothesise why he will or will not stay and all the rumour innuendo and banter that goes with it until such time that Lids does sign a contract or legitimate and binding piece of paper securing his services for a predisposed period of time for someone.
I like most are hoping this gets done prior to round 1 as to me this will culminate in the RFC's most fruitful pre season campaign for as far back as this mid to late 30's RFC fan can remember and if he does not sign by then, then I am sure Lids services will be secured by the RFC by the middle of the year.
I believe I have not been personal to anyone and I find for the most part the posts on here from all posters intelligent passionate witty opinionated which is what a forum is and of course pro active to the cause of the RFC.
Thanks lads. :thumbsup
Gee TB, pretty wanky after all the posts on the subject for you to only use mine as the example, but I would expect no less.
Let me try to clarify that one sentence out of aboutt 100,000,000 others.
If Brett had it in his mind to wait until the end of the year to not re-sign and he then left I would rather him of buggered off now and don't do what Abblet did, that is what I meant.
I couldnt be stuffed reading the rest of your post either, why some have to write novels on this forum is beyond me, perhaps it makes them feel important....
Anyway, Brett will or should re-sign, so great lets move on then.
Good on you Brett, thanks for the loyalty, loyalty that I have shown to the club for 35 years..... ;D
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Now I am not by profession or Education and English Teacher
clearly :lol
Only you could get away with such frivolity gerks. :thumbsup
Its always a cavalcade of whimsy with you. :lol :rollin :lol
If i've learned one thing from being a Catholic priest it's not to take things too seriously
So that's your new job :clapping
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That's okay WAT it was your post where all this debate on the forum was being brought up.
Call it wanky call it whatever that's fine by me also and if that's how you see it also that's fine too. I don't take it personally.
Important: hardly my posts are no less or more important than anybody's. Neither their length, or lack of should deteriote from that.
All part of the discussion on this forum but I just would like to read some legitimate talk on Lids and the probabilities of him staying or going which personally I think he will be doing the former. :gotigers
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I enjoy the polarizing nature of WAT posting although, at times, it can be quite polarizing.
I think the hassling of someone who actually makes this forum function is out of line.
It's fine to disagree but you are just making a knob of yourself.
Pull your head in WAT and show some basic respect mate.
WP runs a forum with MT he is not the President of the USA........
Or is he? :clapping
Lids will stay. He loves the Tiges. Gus told me.
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Did you pop your head in to Turtle Headquarters again?
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That's okay WAT it was your post where all this debate on the forum was being brought up.
Call it wanky call it whatever that's fine by me also and if that's how you see it also that's fine too. I don't take it personally.
Important: hardly my posts are no less or more important than anybody's. Neither their length, or lack of should deteriote from that.
All part of the discussion on this forum but I just would like to read some legitimate talk on Lids and the probabilities of him staying or going which personally I think he will be doing the former. :gotigers
Very good TB, well looks like he is staying so all good.
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Now I am not by profession or Education and English Teacher
clearly :lol
Only you could get away with such frivolity gerks. :thumbsup
Its always a cavalcade of whimsy with you. :lol :rollin :lol
If i've learned one thing from being a Catholic priest it's not to take things too seriously
So that's your new job :clapping
I understand he's cut out a small hole in the confession box....
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If I may point something out for a brief moment.....
no worries rainman
;D
THIS, is champagne comedy :clapping
Ok now where were we.....
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I thought this thread was about Lids contract situation. :whistle
Cmon lads FFS. :help
Yep back to the topic ppl!
AFL clubs rushing to sign up free agents
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
March 17, 2012
Richmond president Gary March yesterday said the Tigers were "hopeful and confident" of re-signing unrestricted Brett Deledio in coming months.
Richmond believe their facilities give them a chance to lure players and secure existing talent.
Newly re-signed Tigers coach Damien Hardwick believes Deledio will commit soon.
"I give him a cuddle every day, (and tell him) how much I love him and want him at our club," Hardwick said.
March agreed: "We are all giving him a cuddle and are all hopeful and confident of signing him up.
"Our guys (football manager) Craig Cameron and (list analysis manager) Blair Hartley have done a really good job of securing all our key players and we are hopeful we can lock away all our guys this year. We have put ourselves in the best position to not only retain our players, but maybe go out and get one."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/afl-clubs-rushing-to-sign-up-free-agents/story-e6frf9jf-1226302195602
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Lids is a restricted free agent :wallywink
Ralphy, can't even get the basics right
Stopped reading after that
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"I give him a cuddle every day, (and tell him) how much I love him and want him at our club," Hardwick said.
:lol
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Oh he has the facts but thought he would just generate some interest with his bs misinformation.
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Im pretty sure they'll be some good news soon on this, everything points to a re-sign :shh :gotigers :clapping
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I read in the Age report this morning that the condition in the rules about Free Agency that may have been causing problems with Lids contract has now been massaged.
The Age reports that the rules now say "has already come out of contract once in the period after March 1 in his eighth season". Note the change is highlighted in yellow.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/130820/default.aspx
This allows Lids to sign immediately a new contract from end of this seaason till 2104 and retain Unrestricted staus at that time. He can't technically sign an "extension" of his current contract but i don't think that's a problem - just pre-sign a new one running from end 2012 till end 2014.
All good news and sensible though I note the AFL has not as yet updated the rules.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/130820/default.aspx
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lids stated not that long ago that, that particular issue, was not actually an issue for him in resigning.
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Fair enough Al.
I'm just happy they've sorted what to me was a silly phrase in the original rules, regardless of who was affected.
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just another half ahhsed job by the AFL
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just another half ahhsed job by the AFL
Yep another superficial rule by that lawyer Adrian Anderson. ::)
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A few games like this in the real stuff and you can't blame Lids holding off a touch. A few more $$$ added to his new contract and a few more cuddle from Dimma ;D.
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Did you pop your head in to Turtle Headquarters again?
Yeah mate, went round to his old mans joint the other night. bit of fun. Talked with Gus via skype. Deledio is a tiger for life
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Lids had 33 disposals and 4 goals which is an impressive return in itself but it was all done in just 65% gametime :o. So he only played 2/3s of the match lol.
33 disposals ( 73% efficiency, 14 contested so not all soft possies out the back )
5 marks with 3 inside forward 50
3 tackles
6 clearances
7 inside 50s
4 goals 3 behinds
65% T.O.G.
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If he keeps this up I might just have to take back all those 'orrible comments.
:lol
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Lids had 33 disposals and 4 goals which is an impressive return in itself but it was all done in just 65% gametime :o. So he only played 2/3s of the match lol.
33 disposals ( 73% efficiency, 14 contested so not all soft possies out the back )
5 marks with 3 inside forward 50
3 tackles
6 clearances
7 inside 50s
4 goals 3 behinds
65% T.O.G.
Don't know about the last 2 seasons off half back but I recall when he was primarily a midfielder, his % of contested vs uncontested ball was always high by afl standards and a lot higher than the perception he's a cherry picker...
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If he leaves he'll go to Carlton. :banghead
The blues will find a way to magically fit him into the salary cap.
Careful, you will be hung, drawn and quatered for comments like this......oh no it's only my posts that are focused on.... :whistle :whistle :'( :'( :-* :-* ;D ;D
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Hanged, not hung. The latter wouldn't be so bad. :lol
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lawl
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Heard a whisper yesterday @ Coburg, lids re signing to be announced Wednesday
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thats my expectation
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:pray
Hopefully a very "good" deal for him and us!
Five year deal worth $750,000 per year ...
$3.75 million ...
Jack, Trent, Dustin need to be looked after too ...
I think Trent's contact is coming up too isn't it?
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If I was Lids, Id take something like that 3.5-4mn BANKED for a 5 year deal...sets the lad up for life :pray
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I have a feeling he is staying.
Lets just see what happens......... :thumbsup
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Play the bhoyas a full tine forward :gotigers
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I think Trent's contact is coming up too isn't it?
End of next season
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I would hope its only a 3 year deal @ around the $700k + incentives.
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Would think a 2 year deal is more likely, taking him through to 10 years = unrestricted free agent ;D
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Lids and Jack mucking around tonight on twitter ...
Brett Deledio @BrettDeledio03
"Hoohoo nearly at 7k followers. Get me more followers than @JackRiewoldt08 and I'll resign straight away. #massivechallenge"
Brett Deledio @BrettDeledio03
"Make that re-sign. My bad."
Jack Riewoldt @JackRiewoldt08
"@brettdeledio03 I might unfollow you mate your clogging mine and your almost 7k of followers twitter feeds up with junk! #longwaytoogo"
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Lids and Jack mucking around tonight on twitter ...
Brett Deledio @BrettDeledio03
"Hoohoo nearly at 7k followers. Get me more followers than @JackRiewoldt08 and I'll resign straight away. #massivechallenge"
Brett Deledio @BrettDeledio03
"Make that re-sign. My bad."
Jack Riewoldt @JackRiewoldt08
"@brettdeledio03 I might unfollow you mate your clogging mine and your almost 7k of followers twitter feeds up with junk! #longwaytoogo"
Talk like that openly even in jest to me indicates Lids has every intention of re-signing with the club. :thumbsup
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Lids and Jack mucking around tonight on twitter ...
Brett Deledio @BrettDeledio03
"Hoohoo nearly at 7k followers. Get me more followers than @JackRiewoldt08 and I'll resign straight away. #massivechallenge"
Brett Deledio @BrettDeledio03
"Make that re-sign. My bad."
Jack Riewoldt @JackRiewoldt08
"@brettdeledio03 I might unfollow you mate your clogging mine and your almost 7k of followers twitter feeds up with junk! #longwaytoogo"
Talk like that openly even in jest to me indicates Lids has every intention of re-signing with the club. :thumbsup
thinking same thing TB :shh
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shouldnt be any panic he will be a true tiger. :thumbsup
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5 year deal he has signed
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5 year deal he has signed
you little beauty, Ive just footloosed around the floor on hearing that, whoa, sweet dreams tonight :shh
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Caro's gone with the Story
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Deledio a Tiger until 2017
March 26, 2012 - 9:52PM
Richmond star Brett Deledio has agreed to a new five-year deal worth up to $3m, meaning he will stay at the club until at least 2017.
"I'm rapt to have signed up. It really was the deal I was looking for, and it pretty much makes me a Tiger for life now," Deledio said.
"It just shows the faith I have in the club and the direction we're heading under Dimma, and I'm just really looking forward to hopefully creating something special.
Advertisement: Story continues below "We're starting to build a good group, and hopefully we can get the success that I think the Club deserves."
Deledio made his senior league debut with Richmond at 17, in the opening round of the 2005 season. He was the No. 1 pick in the 2004 National Draft.
He was the AFL's Rising Star in 2005 and was Richmond's club champion in 2008 and 2009.
"To have Brett commit to Richmond for a further five years is an outstanding outcome for the Club," said Richmond football manager Craig Cameron.
"Brett is held in the highest regard among the playing group, is one of our strongest leaders, and has a record that speaks for itself.
"His commitment is a clear indication of his belief in the direction the club is heading."
Deledio became the youngest player in Richmond's history to reach the 150-game milestone, and has played 92 consecutive games.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/deledio-a-tiger-until-2017-20120326-1vus8.html#ixzz1qDfOb8i9
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Was never in doubt ;D
I'll leave it at that :rollin :rollin
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Decided it deserved it's own thread ;D
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Deledio a Tiger until 2017
March 26, 2012 - 9:52PM
Richmond star Brett Deledio has agreed to a new five-year deal worth up to $3m, meaning he will stay at the club until at least 2017.
"I'm rapt to have signed up. It really was the deal I was looking for, and it pretty much makes me a Tiger for life now," Deledio said.
"It just shows the faith I have in the club and the direction we're heading under Dimma, and I'm just really looking forward to hopefully creating something special.
"We're starting to build a good group, and hopefully we can get the success that I think the Club deserves."
Deledio made his senior league debut with Richmond at 17, in the opening round of the 2005 season. He was the No. 1 pick in the 2004 National Draft.
He was the AFL's Rising Star in 2005 and was Richmond's club champion in 2008 and 2009.
"To have Brett commit to Richmond for a further five years is an outstanding outcome for the Club," said Richmond football manager Craig Cameron.
"Brett is held in the highest regard among the playing group, is one of our strongest leaders, and has a record that speaks for itself.
"His commitment is a clear indication of his belief in the direction the club is heading."
Deledio became the youngest player in Richmond's history to reach the 150-game milestone, and has played 92 consecutive games.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/deledio-a-tiger-until-2017-20120326-1vus8.html#ixzz1qDfOb8i9
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I'll leave it at that - was never in doubt ;D
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Ahhhh yyeeeaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring on the filth!!!!! :gotigers
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FANTASTIC NEWS!! great show of faith by brett. :gotigers
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I'll leave it at that - was never in doubt ;D
Neither was I.
Shame on the rest of you vultures who were, you of little faith :police:
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Woot woot! :birthday
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Thing is he could have got more $$$ if he left, especially from GWS
Hopefully people will never question his loyalty again ;D
A Tiger for Life
Like all of us :thumbsup
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I'll leave it at that - was never in doubt ;D
Like Hardwick this deal was in the bag weeks before it was announced. RFC has become a very professional outfit, they run timelines and announces when it best suits the overall strategy. Its very good. PS - I think we got him really cheap 600k a year is cheap IMHO. A great deal for everyone IMHO. :clapping
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Confirmed on the Club's website
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Deledio signs for five years
richmondfc.com.au 10:01 PM Mon 26 Mar, 2012
Richmond star Brett Deledio has agreed to a new five-year deal with the Club.
The contract extension means Deledio, who turns 25 next month, will stay at Tigerland at least until the end of the 2017 season.
It’s excellent news for the Tigers, who rate the silky-skilled, versatile, dual Jack Dyer Medallist so highly.
“To have Brett commit to Richmond for a further five years is an outstanding outcome for the Club,” said Richmond General Manager of Football Craig Cameron.
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/131487/default.aspx
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:) :) :) :) :)
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Fantastic news. :clapping
Congratulations to Brett Deledio and the Richmond Football Club. :cheers
Timing is great. :thumbsup
Richmond Football Club in the pre season has the momentum of a runaway freight train. :bow
Lets carry that on and off field momentum into Round 1 and lets destroy the filth. :gotigers
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New it ! made my night - Let's stick together boys and take this club back where it belongs! A great sign :thumbsup
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fantastic news, ill sleep like a baby tonight :clapping
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I'll leave it at that - was never in doubt ;D
Like Hardwick this deal was in the bag weeks before it was announced. RFC has become a very professional outfit, they run timelines and announces when it best suits the overall strategy. Its very good. PS - I think we got him really cheap 600k a year is cheap IMHO. A great deal for everyone IMHO. :clapping
Can you believe I've read a post elsewhere saying that we only re-signed Hardwick because Clarkson and Walls said we should?
:lol
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(http://magazine.ucla.edu/exclusives/print/brain-hand-gestures.jpg)
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I'll leave it at that - was never in doubt ;D
Like Hardwick this deal was in the bag weeks before it was announced. RFC has become a very professional outfit, they run timelines and announces when it best suits the overall strategy. Its very good. PS - I think we got him really cheap 600k a year is cheap IMHO. A great deal for everyone IMHO. :clapping
Can you believe I've read a post elsewhere saying that we only re-signed Hardwick because Clarkson and Walls said we should?
:lol
:lol
great news!!! well done tigs and Brett :gotigers
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5 year deal he has signed
you little beauty, Ive just footloosed around the floor on hearing that, whoa, sweet dreams tonight :shh
The "s" and one "e" are obsolete
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I'm waiting for WAT to find out..... Will be priceless!!
We can now say NO EXCUSES- EAT EM ALIVE TIGES!
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Omg. Amazing news
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All the cards falling into place. We have had more stability and less negative speculation surrounding the club in the past few years than I can remember for decades. We are a different club now :thumbsup The media must hate it. :santa
Well done RFC and well done Lids :cheers
Now play out of your skin on Thursday night!!!
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Great news and great deal! Well done again Tigers :thumbsup
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What is it with this club and 5 year deals????
Just joking. Awesome news. Two of our best players, lids and Martin, both stay for less $$ than what others could offer. Shows the club has turned a significant corner. Now start chats with cotch, vickers and reiwoldt.
Well done tigers, especially keeping it in house.
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Great news for the club and shows the players really believe we are building towards success.
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I'll leave it at that - was never in doubt ;D
Like Hardwick this deal was in the bag weeks before it was announced. RFC has become a very professional outfit, they run timelines and announces when it best suits the overall strategy. Its very good. PS - I think we got him really cheap 600k a year is cheap IMHO. A great deal for everyone IMHO. :clapping
Can you believe I've read a post elsewhere saying that we only re-signed Hardwick because Clarkson and Walls said we should?
:lol
:lol
great news!!! well done tigs and Brett :gotigers
Thanks mate. Did my best. Got it done in the end :thumbsup
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All our big name players are tucked away from restricted and unrestricted free agency now. Gale and co. have protected the club well and the best part is that the failures in the draft in 2004 and 2005 etc mean that we can concentrate on nailing a big name player from another club without any consequence coming back our way. From the 2005 National Draft players like Murphy (CFC), Thomas and Pendlebury (Coll) Birchall (Haw) are just some of the decent names that may be available. In 2006 the likes of Gibbs (Carl) Leuenberger (Bris) Boak (Port) BEN REID (Coll) J. Frawley (Melbourne) and even Todd Goldstein may be available. I dont know the respective contract situations of these players, but as I said, we have no consequences for the short and medium term, so I would be hoping that Gale and co. are already trying to get us a big name player.
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I'll leave it at that - was never in doubt ;D
5 yrs instead of 2 :shh
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Not normally a fan of 5 year deals based on past history and the risk of one serious injury but clearly the longer deal meant we got Lids for $600p.a. which will probably be front-loaded so he won't be taking up much salary cap space in 3-5 years time when we should be challenging if all goes to plan. Well done RFC and Lids :thumbsup
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All our big name players are tucked away from restricted and unrestricted free agency now.
Axel out of contract at end of this year I think.
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Great news. I never doubted Lids for a minute, even if his father played a game or two at carltank and some posters here saying he might be off to carlton.
Good luck Lids, and hope Richmond goes only up from here on in.
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All our big name players are tucked away from restricted and unrestricted free agency now.
Axel out of contract at end of this year I think.
Yeah he is. But pretty safe with this one :thumbsup Considered a required player by the club and probably too far under the radar to warrant any large offers. Can't see him wanting to leave anyway ;D
Now to resign McGuane and Moore :banghead :banghead :banghead
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:laugh:
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All our big name players are tucked away from restricted and unrestricted free agency now.
Axel out of contract at end of this year I think.
Yeah he is. But pretty safe with this one :thumbsup Considered a required player by the club and probably too far under the radar to warrant any large offers. Can't see him wanting to leave anyway ;D
Let's hope so. We've stuck by him whike he's got over his ankle/achilles injury and like Lids I would be surprised Axel left a club now on the cusp to go elsewhere and go through the whole rebuilding process again at the bottom of the ladder.
Now to resign McGuane and Moore :banghead :banghead :banghead
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:laugh:
;D
The Club has always said it was confident of holding onto all our required young guns from the clutches of GC and GWS. Reading that another way we don't seem to really care if a fringe player with deficiencies heads to one of the expansion clubs.
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Brett Deledio's done deal with Tigers
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
March 27, 2012
RICHMOND has re-signed star midfielder Brett Deledio on a five-season deal, and will now turn its sights on the rest of the club's big four.
Deledio, 24, agreed to the contract yesterday afternoon, keen to erase any distraction about his playing future before Thursday night's clash against Carlton.
Richmond will switch its attention to vice-captain Trent Cotchin, star full-forward Jack Riewoldt and third-year dynamo Dustin Martin.
All three come out of contract at the end of next season, but Richmond hopes to secure them well before then.
Tigers president Gary March was confident of keeping the playing list together.
"We are pretty thrilled. This effectively makes Brett a Tiger for life. By the end of his contract he will have been here for 13 years and will be 30," he said yesterday.
"I think it's a pretty massive vote of confidence in the direction the club is heading.
"Cotch, Dustin and Jack are all out at the end of 2013. We will be talking to them now.
"There is a really strong resolve with this group to stick together.
"We will start turning our attention to them, even though they still have two years to run," March said.
"I think there is an incredibly strong resolve to stick together. They are a very close-knit group and we have done a good job in managing when they come out and we are in pretty good shape to keep all of our key players."
Deledio's deal, which runs until the end of 2017, is believed to be upwards of $3 million, given his value to the club.
March lauded his maturity and leadership after arriving at the club as a No.1 draft pick more intent on his own development.
"I have seen a real change, and that's the commitment he has got to the group and the club," March said.
"With that added respect and the chance to go back into the midfield, you are going to see a very special player for us.
"He is very close to Wayne Campbell and 'Cambo' played 297 games but didn't get much success.
"We would love Brett to play 300 games for Richmond, but we would love him to be a premiership player, too."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/brett-deledios-done-deal-with-tigers/story-e6frf9jf-1226310760203
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Richmond Tigers make Brett Deledio a one-club man
by: Greg Denham and Courtney Walsh
From: The Australian
March 27, 2012
BRETT Deledio is effectively a Tiger for life after yesterday signing a five-year deal that will keep him at Richmond until the end of 2017.
A week after extending coach Damien Hardwick's contract for another two years, Richmond's move on the former No 1 draft pick will keep him at Punt Road until he is 30, a time when he would be entering his 14th season.
Richmond football manager Craig Cameron said Deledio and his manager, Anthony McConville, had initiated discussions about the contract's length, with the Tigers satisfied after subjecting the star to a thorough medical.
Deledio's signing continues a reversal in attitude towards signing lengthy deals, with Michael Hurley inking a similar contract at Essendon only a week ago. Sydney's Sam Reid also signed a similar deal last December.
Hurley's was the first of that length signed at Essendon in more than a decade.
Former ruckman Troy Simmonds was the last player to sign a similar contract at Punt Road when lured from Fremantle in 2004.
Such lengthy contracts were viewed as too risky during the early part of this century because of the potential for either serious injury or a drop in form.
Since the introduction of free agency, list managers are more willing to take a risk on their stars - particularly given the poaching threat posed by Greater Western Sydney - though all three clubs will argue that the gamble is minimal given the players involved.
Essendon, for example, last week nominated Hurley's durability and ability to both play and perform with distinction in the second half of last year despite a foot injury as a positive when opting for the long-term deal.
Richmond, too, can point to Deledio's consistency and durability.
In his past four seasons, the 24-year-old has twice been named the Tigers' best and fairest and has placed in the same award for the past two years.
Deledio, who has been named in a 40-man All Australian squad three times, also became the youngest Tiger to earn life membership when playing his 150th match last season.
His signing follows that of another former first-round draft pick, Tyrone Vickery, who last week agreed to a two-year deal.
Fellow Richmond stars Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin and Jack Riewoldt are also contracted until at least the end of next season.
Those players loom as key figures in Richmond's season-opening game against Carlton at Etihad Stadium on Thursday night.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-tigers-make-brett-deledio-a-one-club-man/story-fnca0u4y-1226310693983
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Great news, called it, Monday or Tuesday...... ;D
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Great news. Congrats to both club and Brett. Takes speculation away and allows Brett to concentrate on his football
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Absolutely brilliant!
What I like most is that the Administration are moulding this club we love into one of the most desirable for players to play for! A far cry from the club we've known for the last 30 years. Stable on field, stable off field.
Now for Thursday night!
Go tiges!
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This is awesome news!! Lets have the favorite player game again! I know would would win right at this moment. :thumbsup :clapping :gotigers
Whats really funny now is that Lids is on the same money as Folau. :lol I went to the game on Saturday night and the best phrase I can think of regarding Folau's current ability is "Lost at Sea" whereas Lids is an out and out Champion and a Tiger for life!! How they are on the same money is baffling.
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Did you pop your head in to Turtle Headquarters again?
Yeah mate, went round to his old mans joint the other night. bit of fun. Talked with Gus via skype. Deledio is a tiger for life
Should have listened to me, WP and the Grahams.
Love you, Brett. Play 300 for us, grab a few more Jack Dyer's and a premiership or three. stuff yeah! :cheers
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Best thing is this take free agencyt right out of the question.
Lid's is top shelf and uber consistent so can handle 5 years.
Injury the only risk here.
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Absolutely brilliant!
What I like most is that the Administration are moulding this club we love into one of the most desirable for players to play for! A far cry from the club we've known for the last 30 years. Stable on field, stable off field.
Now for Thursday night!
Go tiges!
My feelings exactly. The whole place (even this website) has a different feeling about it. Makes me nervous as I have seen false dawns before but never like this when everybody seems to be going in one direction. Im liking it. :gotigers
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Have just re-read this thread in its entirety - yep all 21 pages
In light of last night's announcement I've got to say when you re-read it there is some really funny stuff ;D :thumbsup
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Did Coach say anything interesting? I normally forget what I have posted about 24 hours later.
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God bless lids 8)
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Did Coach say anything interesting? I normally forget what I have posted about 24 hours later.
:yep :yep
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I went back and had a look and I have made 4 posts in this thread. All pro Lids. What's interesting about that Will ;D
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I'll leave it at that - was never in doubt ;D
Like Hardwick this deal was in the bag weeks before it was announced. RFC has become a very professional outfit, they run timelines and announces when it best suits the overall strategy. Its very good. PS - I think we got him really cheap 600k a year is cheap IMHO. A great deal for everyone IMHO. :clapping
On the timelines, i expected to hear something tomorrow or perhaps today, but with the announcement on monday, it gives the club a couple of days before the game to use it to re-sign more members;
Text received this morning
BDeledio: Alistair, there's nothing more i want to do than play for the Tigers and have signed on to be a tiger for life. I would love for for you to sign on and help us to 50,000 members.
and a short while later;
Lids has signed on for the next 5 years and we want you to sign as well. Text "Lids" for one of our memberships staff to call you to renew your membership
smart marketing!
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I went back and had a look and I have made 4 posts in this thread. All pro Lids. What's interesting about that Will ;D
thought this one was a funny one Coach ;D
Wouldn't be the first time Bojangleburg has responded to a perfectly reasonable post as if it was written by Tony Shaw.
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Cameron Mooney thinks five years is too long for Brett Deledio contract
Tim O'Rourke
From: Herald Sun
March 27, 2012
FORMER Geelong premiership player Cameron Mooney has questioned Richmond's decision to sign Brett Deledio to a five-year contract, claiming it may lead to future salary cap pressure for the Tigers.
Speaking on Melbourne radio, Mooney was adamant that long, lucrative contracts like Deledio's were risky propositions for AFL clubs.
"It's such a long time and a lot of money to be locking away on one player," Mooney told SEN.
"What are they going to do with Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt when they come out of contract? Give them all five-year deals?"
The Tigers have recently been busy securing key personnel before the start of the 2012 season proper, with Deledio joining key forward Tyrone Vickery and senior coach Damien Hardwick having signed long-term deals.
While Mooney said the Tigers were right to look for stability at the club, he questioned the merits of giving such a long contract to just one player.
"At Geelong we had to look at the team as a whole and say 'do we want money or premiership glory?'"
"Blokes could have been paid a lot more than what they were earning, but we wanted to share the money around and keep everyone together."
Cotchin, Riewoldt and Martin are all out of contract at the end of 2013, however the club will be looking to secure them well before then.
The Tigers take on the Blues in their blockbuster season opener on Thursday night and many tipsters, including Mooney, have jumped on the yellow and black bandwagon.
"I saw them down in Geelong a couple of weeks ago and they were very impressive. Carlton has some big outs down back so on current form you would have to go with the Tiges."
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/cameron-mooney-thinks-five-years-is-too-long-for-brett-deledio-contract/story-e6frg1x3-1226311446499
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i could see his point if it was a 5 yr deal worth 5 million, but its not its a 5 yr deal at 2.5-3 million , so i think mooney should rethink all he said
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yep, his argument hinges on how much we are paying Lids. Fact is he's coming relatively cheap so Mooney's argument is void.
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Mooney is just bitter because Bartel, GAJ, Selwood, Chappy, Scarlett, Ottens, & Stevie J took all the coin and told the b & c graders to pull their heads in if they want to play in a flag side
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tbh I thought the dollar value would have been higher ...on open market lids could command 700k+...heck if scully is 1.2 than perhaps lids is 2.5. :shh..anyhow...by stretching the term meant we indeed do have more remaining in the cap as the 3m is stretched alot further than say 2.5 over 3 . Mooney probably needs to put the teeth in and brain into gear before he comments in the future :lol
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No doubt great news now but I wonder how happy everyone will be about the term of this contract if Lids does a knee this year..
Please smile on us injury gods. Browny and Cogs were surely penance.
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Deledio took less than what he could. I expect Cotchin, Riewoldt and Martin will also take unders when the time comes, I think we will be big players when Free Agency is in full swing and I expect that we will be big winners from free agency.
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Selwood just signed a 5 yr deal at Geelong lmfao :lol
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Deledio took less than what he could. I expect Cotchin, Riewoldt and Martin will also take unders when the time comes, I think we will be big players when Free Agency is in full swing and I expect that we will be big winners from free agency.
I dont think we well see much action for a few years.
With Delidio taking under what he could and if the others do to, as you suggest, then to bring in someone from the outside on big dollars, as you would need to for unrestricted free agents, could cause distension amongst these guys.
I reckon in 2-3 yeatrs time, when we are close we will target unrestricted free agents from clubs that have missed or are a long way off their "window".
The bait would not be money, but a chance to play in a premiership before they reetire
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Brett Deledio dark on Cameron Mooney
Confidential reporters
From: Herald Sun
March 29, 2012
FIVE-year deals are suddenly the vogue in the AFL but there were a few sparks flying yesterday over Richmond's decision to sign Brett Deledio to one.
Retired Geelong premiership player Cameron Mooney questioned the decision and Tiger fans saw red.
Deledio was none too pleased with Mooney's stance either until the "Big Hairy Cat" offered an olive branch that his comments were not intended to be directed at Deledio personally.
Mooney said that long, lucrative contracts like Deledio's were risky propositions for AFL clubs.
"It's such a long time and a lot of money to be locking away on one player," he said on SEN.
"What are they going to do with Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt when they come out of contract? Give them all five-year deals?"
Mooney said the Tigers were right to look for stability, but questioned the merits of giving such a long contract to just one player.
"At Geelong we had to look at the team as a whole and say 'do we want money or premiership glory?'
"Blokes could have been paid a lot more than what they were earning, but we wanted to share the money around and keep everyone together."
Deledio hit back on Twitter wondering what Big Moons thought of Geelong captain Joel Selwood's five-year signing yesterday.
"Didn't rate me doing it," he tweeted. "More room to move after he retired maybe?"
Mooney quickly replied that he meant no offence and it was "a big f------ beat-up mate".
He said he was sure he had said the contract was great for Deledio and the Tigers.
Richmond fans reacted strongly to the report of Mooney's comments, many of them pointing out the irony after Selwood's deal.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/brett-deledio-dark-on-cameron-mooney/story-fn9eu7in-1226312788271
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In hardwicks latest presser someone asked him about the lids deal.
The question was something about how some question the deal with young bloke like cotch and martin coming through , bla bla, can you understant that view.
With out a pause Dimma said,
"No. In a nutshell, No. No i cant"
:clapping
He then made a very good point about how players like deledio dont go backwards.
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worthy of the contract?
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worthy of the contract?
I think so but bloody hell he needs to learn to shake a tag. It has plagued him his entire career. Maybe he just doesn't have the mental fortitude but I think we give him half the season to prove he can make a impact in the middle then, if he doesn't' tell him his position is of half back.
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You want to play finals? Prove it!!!!
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i was so wanting to see this bloke really step up
and take a game by the scruff of the neck last night
alas wasnt to eventuate, left disappointed again.
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i was so wanting to see this bloke really step up
and take a game by the scruff of the neck last night
alas wasnt to eventuate, left disappointed again.
same rog, felt it was his time to shine, but on reflection its no surprise he looked a little flat and stuffed, missed most of the preseason and didnt get enough miles into the legs, saw Murphy punishing him with running bursts a few times last night - he simply couldnt keep up. Should have played a half game before the GWS game. But Im a fan, hes quality and will be better for the run
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Will be better Lids. I expect that.
He got the big deal now he needs to step up into elite class.
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Yep. He was only serviceable at best last night. But i think he will settle into the role. First game in the guts for a while.
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Gibbs has his measure. Always has.
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Gibbs has his measure. Always has.
Not sure what the point of your comment is but I'll bite, both have played off hb, one is allowed to play loose, one gets tagged off hb. Nuff said
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Gibbs has his measure. Always has.
he was lined up v Judd at times we were playing well
wouldnt swap Gibbs for Deledio. Do you have any idea how Squibby
gibbs would look playing alongside Edwards A Maric Jackson and friends>
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Can someone clarify that Lids is okay?
A bit of talk on BF today about Lids cramping in the 3rd qtr. and whether he is injured again or not.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=926593
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Can someone clarify that Lids is okay?
A bit of talk on BF today about Lids cramping in the 3rd qtr. and whether he is injured again or not.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=926593
He looked ginger after he intercepted a marc murphy pass in the centre square, took the mark and seemed ginger after that, if it was a hammy surely they would have pulled him straight off and not risk doing further damage, prob cramp, he was run into the ground by Judd and Murphy
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Can someone clarify that Lids is okay?
A bit of talk on BF today about Lids cramping in the 3rd qtr. and whether he is injured again or not.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=926593
He looked ginger after he intercepted a marc murphy pass in the centre square, took the mark and seemed ginger after that, if it was a hammy surely they would have pulled him straight off and not risk doing further damage, prob cramp, he was run into the ground by Judd and Murphy
Cheers TM. Yep let's hope it was only cramp given Lids was probably underdone with just the GWS under his belt before round 1.
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Can someone clarify that Lids is okay?
A bit of talk on BF today about Lids cramping in the 3rd qtr. and whether he is injured again or not.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=926593
He looked ginger after he intercepted a marc murphy pass in the centre square, took the mark and seemed ginger after that, if it was a hammy surely they would have pulled him straight off and not risk doing further damage, prob cramp, he was run into the ground by Judd and Murphy
I actually noticed before that for a second the camera showed him hobbling around, then I noticed that mark later on and looking sore.
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Lids trained with the main group today so he must be fine:
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560403_10150718348613276_298686323275_9424554_751067228_n.jpg)
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Lids showed why he got the 5 year deal tonight. When we could have dropped our heads and let the game just blowout to a big loss he lead by example to get the side back up and fighting and believing again with those two goals and winning contested footy.
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Kept the flag flying didn't he. :bow
Don't tell me no RFC fan in the crowd 10 mins into the last quarter when we were 4 goals down on the back of Lids class were not believing in some sort of miracle regardless of the way we played.
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He should have gone the barrel in the last, it's those types of moments that can propel players from very good to elite status, you'll never know if you don't have a crack!
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Tony he reminded me of that set shot goal he kicked from outside 50 against St Kilda last year and against Collingwood last year at that point in time.
Has real polish and class even when he does not rack up the stats.
Fantastic game by Lids tonight. :thumbsup
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Love Brett, just want him to be at his best all the time. Has everything you can ask for at his best. No1 can go with him
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Lids also made the AFL site's team of the week named in the followers :thumbsup.
Brett Deledio (Richmond) - Now that Deledio has been released from Richmond’s backline, the football world waits to see whether his ability will translate into the Tigers’ midfield. The signs against Collingwood on Saturday night were overwhelmingly positive - Deledio could not have done more to get his side over the line with 35 disposals (13 contested) and a pair of quality goals. No matter where he plays, he needs others to jump on boar
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/132805/default.aspx
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Lids trained with the main group today so he must be fine:
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560403_10150718348613276_298686323275_9424554_751067228_n.jpg)
Tell you what, people bag Dan Jackson but he goes alright for a bloke who only has 1 leg
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Lids trained with the main group today so he must be fine:
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560403_10150718348613276_298686323275_9424554_751067228_n.jpg)
Tell you what, people bag Dan Jackson but he goes alright for a bloke who only has 1 leg
:lol And an oversized knee on that one leg.....
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Lids turns 25 today.
:birthday
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yeah great
hopefully now he's old enough to make an impact in games from the first bounce rather than being just a solid contributor until junk time :shh
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Shares a birthday with my father-in-law who turns 80 today. :birthday
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It's also Addam Maric's birthday. ooooooh who plays favourites :shh
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It's also Addam Maric's birthday. ooooooh who plays favourites :shh
:clapping
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It's also Addam Maric's birthday. ooooooh who plays favourites :shh
Blame RFCO for that ;D. I was just going by what he tweeted earlier today. He posted about mini Maric later on. Anyway it's easy to play favourites with Lids being one of our guns and a RFC life member at just 25 :thumbsup.
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Lids will be on the footy show tommorow night, according to an ad I just saw. Hopefully he plays a good game on sunday as imo most that go on the show don't play well that week... ::)
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Brett Deledio will have scans this week after he injured his knee in the second quarter, playing on with a heavily strapped leg.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/tigers-vow-to-rise-after-another-heartache/story-e6frf9jf-1226342119072
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If Lids get through the Port game unscathed then he'll bring up his 100th consecutive game against the Swans [touchwood].
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That's 99 consecutive games down for Lids. His 100th next week.
Ch 7 showed a pre-recorded interview with Lids at half-time today. Lids spoke about the captaincy and how he wasn't that interested in it as one of his long-term aims earlier in his career as he didn't want the added responsibility. Now however as he's matured, he wouldn't say no to the captaincy [after Newy obviously].
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Newman should have handed the captaincy to Lids after he told Wallace to resign. :lol what a joke that was
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Interesting to see Dimma call all the leaders over yesterday at 3qtr time (did they show it on the tellie)
Dimma had his arms crossed and you just felt he was putting it on these blokes to get us back on track and make sure we won that bloody game
Lids had been doing it all day but in the final qtr he was THE LEADER
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Interesting to see Dimma call all the leaders over yesterday at 3qtr time (did they show it on the tellie)
Dimma had his arms crossed and you just felt he was putting it on these blokes to get us back on track and make sure we won that bloody game
Lids had been doing it all day but in the final qtr he was THE LEADER
No I didn't see that on the TV. Great coaching and leadership really. Lids is such a great player but the rap on him was that he was always a bit individualistic. An introvert and not a great fan of putting himself out for supporter either. Cotch on the other hand is always talking and bringing in his team mates. Lids seems to have changed but I would still believe Cotch is ahead of him as our next leader at this stage.
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Chimp is next captain for sure. Hopefully Deledio is vice and Riewoldt isn't near ever captaining a game for us.
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Cotch is making Deledio climb to new levels as a player and person at the club imo. Think he was in a comfort zone and cruising as he was clearly our best player early on in his career(with the exception of richo) all of a sudden Cotch(amongst a few others) goes to another level last season and looks to be lifting again this season. Its almost like this has given Lids a wakeup and challenged him to go to another level. His numbers may not show any difference but he is influencing games a whole lot more this year, become a much more damaging player
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Cotch is making Deledio climb to new levels as a player and person at the club imo. Think he was in a comfort zone and cruising as he was clearly our best player early on in his career(with the exception of richo) all of a sudden Cotch(amongst a few others) goes to another level last season and looks to be lifting again this season. Its almost like this has given Lids a wakeup and challenged him to go to another level. His numbers may not show any difference but he is influencing games a whole lot more this year, become a much more damaging player
The big difference is that the opposition now need to choose who to tag. When Lids used to play off the wing/midfield he was always the target of the tagger now the opposition see Cotch as our most damaging ball winner. I think Cotch should be our next Captain but I believe Lids is more damaging with the ball is hand....imo ;D
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Last week ling said lids was our best player. Due to the abilty to kick over the zone.
During the 3rdQ when we were under the pump. Deledio moved the ball 150m starting in the back pocket ending with griggs goal.
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he is our rolls royce and i love how now he even wins and gets a hard ball. complete player
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It's great to see the Italian stallions rise to the top. Deledio is proving this year how Italian he really is by his dominating performances. Add to this the improvement of Conca and it's plain to see the recruiters are finally on to something.
Forza Italia!
P.s. Our young guns Cotchini and Martini aren't bad players either.
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Deledio now elite: Hardwick
By Nick Bowen
11:52 PM Sat 19 May, 2012
BRETT Deledio has elevated himself to elite status with his vastly improved contested play, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick says.
Deledio won the Yiooken Award as the best player on the ground in the Tigers' 19-point loss to Essendon in Saturday night's Dream Time at the 'G clash.
After the match Hardwick said the hardness Deledio displayed in laying an equal game-high 10 tackles against the Bombers and winning five clearances had not always been a strength of his game.
"His contested ball work has come on in leaps and bounds," Hardwick said.
"That was probably the one area of his game that I thought needed work but he's just been enormous in that area this year. He's become an elite player of the competition."
Deledio sat alongside his coach as he made his comments at an after-match press conference - Hardwick joked that the Tiger midfielder had kicked him under the table for suggesting he hadn't previously been an elite player.
But when asked if he had ever had 10 tackles before in a game, Deledio said: "Probably not … there's a first for everything I suppose."
Another area of Deledio's game Hardwick said had improved was his ability to be "really damaging" when resting up forward, Hardwick said.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/136276/default.aspx
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He was brilliant last night.
I feel sorry for him and cotchin every game they play. We have still too many hacks that shouldn't be in the team.
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At times he looked a class above any essendon fstick out there.
Looking at the stats in todays paper. Zero errors..
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I feel sorry for him and cotchin every game they play. We have still too many hacks that shouldn't be in the team.
I think many of can relate to that, when we read your contributions to this forum
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BRILLIANT....best player we have by a country mile.
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I feel sorry for him and cotchin every game they play. We have still too many hacks that shouldn't be in the team.
I think many of can relate to that, when we read your contributions to this forum
:lol
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Awesome player. Has proven he is a complete player.
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Lids has certainly stepped up another cog this year..Anyone here seriously rate him for the brownlow?
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Has become Judd like, looks to be shaking off tags as well :pray
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VIDEO: Highlights of Deledio from Saturday night; 35 touches, 10 tackles, 7 In50s, 5 clearances, 13 score involvements and a goal
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/451768/default.aspx (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/451768/default.aspx)
Deledio was a worthy recipient of the Yiooken Award for best-on-ground in last Saturday night’s Dreamtime game.
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/136417/default.aspx
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Jet
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Absolute jet! :bow :bow :bow :bow :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers
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He was brilliant last night.
I feel sorry for him and cotchin every game they play. We have still too many hacks that shouldn't be in the team.
How true
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He was brilliant last night.
I feel sorry for him and cotchin every game they play. We have still too many hacks that shouldn't be in the team.
How true
I feel sorry for Lids too! Being a part of a club that he obviously feels is headed in the right direction. That being the reason for signing a new contract recently instead of taking bigger bucks somewhere else. Not that he would be on peanuts with us.
I feel sorry for him having to play along side of Foley, Martin and Cotch. Watching the development of Rance, Grimes and seeing the arrival of players such as Houli and Grigg must be truly heartbreaking.
Training on a ground when you can see the new ME Bank centre being built must have made his guts churn.
There are plenty of players that have graced the Punt Road Oval before Lids did that have plenty more reasons to feel sorry for themselves. Back then nearly the whole team were hacks.
Having said that, Lids has stamped himself as a true A-Grader :thumbsup
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/richmond-star-brett-deledio-says-tough-love-gave-him-a-reality-check/story-e6frf9jf-1226389570731
Richmond star Brett Deledio says tough love gave him a reality check
Brett Deledio From: Herald Sun June 09, 2012 12:00AM
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RICHMOND STAR BRETT DELEDIO SAYS COACH DAMIEN HARDWICK IS A COACH, MATE AND TEACHER TO HIM AND HIS TEAMMATES. PICTURE: COLLEEN PETCH HERALD SUN
DAMIEN Hardwick didn't take long to make an impression on me.
It was late in 2009 and he had just been appointed as Richmond's senior coach.
Back then my hair was long and scruffy and I had a beanie on when we crossed paths.
Dimma hit me up straight away: "What are you doing with your hair, man?" was the opening line.
Then it came to my contract. I was out of contract and so he was straight to the point.
"Now what are we going to do with your contract, Brett."
My reply was, "I have no intention of leaving, I want to stay, I want to play under you, and I want to see what it's like".
And then he said something that has stuck with me.
"Give me a hug," he said. "I am going to give you a hug right now."
And that's Damien Hardwick, my senior coach.
He is an extremely emotional man, and one that can well up at the drop of a hat. But he can also call a spade a spade.
He is our coach, our mate, and our teacher, and someone who almost always gets that delicate balance right.
No doubt, he is just one of the reasons Richmond is where it is right now.
Where is that?
Well, it's 5-5 ahead of a huge game against Fremantle at the MCG today.
We aren't anywhere near where we would like to be, but after a period of massive change at Richmond we believe we have made significant ground on many levels.
It has been three coaches, a cultural change, some massive tough love doled out in my direction, and finally some reward for effort.
But to chart that period - 160 games for me - it's probably worth starting at the beginning.
ARRIVING at Richmond as a No.1 draft pick I just lapped up everything at the club.
Senior games came early and I just loved being around the stars - Matthew Richardson, Kane Johnson, Wayne Campbell and Nathan Brown.
Arriving as a kid with attitude meant at times I played games on my own terms.
People ask me why that has changed, and they think it must have been all about Dimma.
To be honest, all of my coaches have played a part, including Terry Wallace, who was great for me.
But one particular incident stands out.
When Jade Rawlings came in as a caretaker coach at the end of 2009 it was a rude shock.
I have never been dropped, but in his first weeks it was so close, and it would have been well deserved. We were playing St Kilda one day - Round 12, 2009 - and I was standing next to Jason Gram.
He went one way and I went the other, and the ball was going their way.
I was just lazy. I wasn't interested. We were being smashed (we lost by 56 points) and I wasn't interested in doing the hard work.
The club got me in front of the leadership group and said: "We are not sure you can sacrifice for the team."
It was so embarrassing to be in front of the whole team that week. The leadership group had told me they didn't think I could do the right thing out on the field.
It rocked me.
The Thursday before we played Adelaide, Jade rang me up and said, "We are going to go with you".
My reply was simple: "I am rapt, I will buy in", and my role changed into tagging for the last half of 2009.
It turned into my first best-and-fairest trophy later that year.
Great outcomes can come from pretty severe reality checks.
Then Dimma came in, and hopefully my game has gone to a new level with him.
But you build the foundations, and certainly that happened with Terry and Jade.
Frank feedback has always been welcome. My old man once suggested I consider playing netball if I didn't like it tough, and Dimma is the same.
It has been three coaches, a cultural change, some massive tough love doled out in my direction, and finally some reward for effort.
Now wanting to play well is a must, but I always hang my hat on tackles.
You know you have played a real game when you are getting plenty of them. Even against St Kilda I was hopefully damaging offensively, but I had only one tackle and I felt funny about it.
It is the defensive stuff that wins flags and makes you play well.
HOW has the culture changed at Richmond?
Chris Newman has played a huge part in that.
His first year was one of the toughest initiations you could ever have. But he genuinely cares for people, and is one of the nicest people you could meet.
Ben Cousins played his part too, and that might sound funny to mention him and leadership in the same breath.
But although we know Ben has had his troubles, I have never seen someone so focused on team performance.
The first time he spoke up in a midfield meeting, when he arrived for the 2009 season, everyone's jaw dropped.
It was like, "This bloke seriously knows his s---".
You wish we had taped it.
He was all about working for your teammates and blocking for them, and making them better. One day a tagger was really riding me and he just came in and fairly sat this bloke on his bum.
His advice also helped me to back myself on the field.
One day he showed me some vision where I had just taken a mark.
He said: "Why didn't you just run around this bloke?" And I thought: "Why didn't I?"
To tone down his profanity-laden expression, he would say, "Stuff those guys".
But it was about maximising the potential you were born with by hard work.
His best piece of advice, though: "Look good, feel good, play good, and in that order."
For Ben, you needed to feel good about yourself before everything else flowed.
Now myself and Jack Riewoldt are in the leadership group, and we are working hard to build that aspect.
BECOMING the captain of Richmond would be amazing, but the best thing is that there are so many leaders: Newy, and vice-captain Trent Cotchin, and myself and Jack (Riewoldt) and Daniel Jackson, as well as plenty of others outside the official five-man group.
Wayne Campbell has really helped me build my leadership.
He told me that you can't expect to be best mates with everyone at the club, but you need to build relationships.
Whether it's getting the young blokes around for a feed, or getting them back to Kyabram, that's where it starts, and you try to build respect.
There is no doubt Jack Riewoldt has leadership.
He has come a long way since he first came into the leadership group and he was being questioned and the young blokes were questioning him.
He has learnt to bite his tongue, both on the field and in meetings.
When Dimma first came in we would call him the Big Wig in team meetings, sitting up the back and answering every question.
Because he knew the game plan so well, he knew every answer.
Dimma would eventually say, "Jack, shut up, let someone else have a go".
Now he listens as well as speaks.
His body language still sometimes spills over on the field, but that is something we are all guilty of.
Now we have spoken about doing it for the right reason.
Spray someone for ignoring you because that was the way the ball was supposed to move, not because they didn't give it to you.
On the field the recruits have made a difference, too.
Steven Morris dies for you in every contest, Shaun Grigg and Bachar Houli have been great, and Ivan Maric is just something special.
He is brilliant; such a competitor and someone who just loves hitting bodies.
The mullet is great, and he just doesn't care what people think of it.
But for me he is a mad man, and you know it when you look into his eyes. Fans see someone charging back to the centre square so quickly, while us midfielders are trying to catch our breath.
But he is high-kneeing it back, just anticipating the next bounce.
He has a point to prove, and he's just continuing to prove it every single game.
THE finals are a goal for us, but we won't get too far ahead of ourselves.
At 160 games without a final it puts me second on the current-day list of players, and it's killing me.
Finals means everything to me, and it's what drives us to improve as a club.
But it will happen at some stage, because we believe in this club.
Early in the year the club and myself committed to a five-year deal, which, to be honest, was never in doubt.
It was about the pride of being a one-club player and also wanting to show the young boys I am committed, so they should sign up too.
But the biggest thing was that it felt like we were starting to build something very special at Richmond.
You could jump ship and get on the coat-tails of a team that had been successful.
But you don't get the same feeling of satisfaction if you haven't come on the shared trip from where we have been.
There might be some more pot holes and diversions on that journey, but we believe we are heading in the right direction.
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great read
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I'm glad he mentioned culture. It's so important in success and it sounds as though it's becoming a real factor in our climb up the ladder.
:gotigers :thumbsup
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That article will completely turn to poop if we lose tomorrow:D
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That article will completely turn to poop if we lose tomorrow:D
In before someone claims Lids should spend more time training less time being a journo. :whistle
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This is no 'puff-piece' - Lids is speaking from the heart......what a great article :clapping
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That article will completely turn to poop if we lose tomorrow:D
Why? It turn to the schiezen if we dont play finals in the next couple of years. Every side loses games they should win, especially this year.
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"Stuff those guys"
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Makes you proud to follow this great club! Fantastic read!! :gotigers
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stick to playing footy brett and just leave the journalism alone for now :cheers
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Stop going on the footy show ya clown!!!!!!! Focus on football!!
Pathetic display today.
Will probably have 40 possesions next week.
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Stop going on the footy show ya clown!!!!!!! Focus on football!!
Pathetic display today.
Will probably have 40 possesions next week.
What would be the point of getting them against the Giants - we needed a big performance today and it never arrived. I cant see us making the finals now.
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Stop going on the footy show ya clown!!!!!!! Focus on football!!
Pathetic display today.
Will probably have 40 possesions next week.
What would be the point of getting them against the Giants - we needed a big performance today and it never arrived. I cant see us making the finals now.
Spot on Ramps but like I was told many years ago never expect too much as eventually they will let you down. You will hear because it was wet bla bla bla
Facts are once again they start believing their own crap and look what happens
il say it now we will finish 9th
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there are so many leaders: Newy, and vice-captain Trent Cotchin, and myself and Jack (Riewoldt)
There is no doubt Jack Riewoldt has leadership.
He has come a long way since he first came into the leadership group and he was being questioned and the young blokes were questioning him.
He has learnt to bite his tongue, both on the field and in meetings.
When Dimma first came in we would call him the Big Wig in team meetings, sitting up the back and answering every question.
Because he knew the game plan so well, he knew every answer.
Dimma would eventually say, "Jack, shut up, let someone else have a go".
Now he listens as well as speaks.
ahha that Davey kid will be fuming
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I think Ryan Crowley gave him a 'reality-check' today 8)
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Stop going on the footy show ya clown!!!!!!! Focus on football!!
Pathetic display today.
Will probably have 40 possesions next week.
What would be the point of getting them against the Giants - we needed a big performance today and it never arrived. I cant see us making the finals now.
Thats a bit reactionary Ramps
Not excuses but:
- No Sandi made Freo unpredictable and made us too tall, was even more obvious when the rain came
- poo weather brought the game into a scrap which was doubled with Ross Lyons cancerous type of game style
- Players were off, Freo were on.
- Umpires were having a mere all day.
Wouldn't read to much into the loss. Break the season up into parts before Haw, St.K, Fre, GWS if you said we'd win 3 of them - You'd take it. We beat GWS and we're on par.
Shoulda won today but we are still on the path.
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I think Ryan Crowley gave him a 'reality-check' today 8)
Big time.
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Crowley has taken some huge scalps this year. In all honesty no players had any impact on the game whatsoever, which is a huge win for Fremantle. We played 21 vs 21 today, because of the Crowley tag who touched the ball 10 times with 100% game time. Complete shut down role.
Freo are going no where with that list and gameplan, can't play shut down footy and have your tagger not getting possessions.
Not a panic loss but one of those ones you just brush off and move on. Wont be playing Freo again till next year so they can get stuffed.
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Crowley has taken some huge scalps this year. In all honesty no players had any impact on the game whatsoever, which is a huge win for Fremantle. We played 21 vs 21 today, because of the Crowley tag who touched the ball 10 times with 100% game time. Complete shut down role.
Freo are going no where with that list and gameplan, can't play shut down footy and have your tagger not getting possessions.
Not a panic loss but one of those ones you just brush off and move on. Wont be playing Freo again till next year so they can get stuffed.
we are flying over to perth in rd 21
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Crowley has taken some huge scalps this year. In all honesty no players had any impact on the game whatsoever, which is a huge win for Fremantle. We played 21 vs 21 today, because of the Crowley tag who touched the ball 10 times with 100% game time. Complete shut down role.
Freo are going no where with that list and gameplan, can't play shut down footy and have your tagger not getting possessions.
Not a panic loss but one of those ones you just brush off and move on. Wont be playing Freo again till next year so they can get stuffed.
Play them again in Round 21 in Perth. One of those games we need to get back in the second half of the year if we are to play finals. A must win.
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Crowley has taken some huge scalps this year. In all honesty no players had any impact on the game whatsoever, which is a huge win for Fremantle. We played 21 vs 21 today, because of the Crowley tag who touched the ball 10 times with 100% game time. Complete shut down role.
Freo are going no where with that list and gameplan, can't play shut down footy and have your tagger not getting possessions.
Not a panic loss but one of those ones you just brush off and move on. Wont be playing Freo again till next year so they can get stuffed.
Play them again in Round 21 in Perth. One of those games we need to get back in the second half of the year if we are to play finals. A must win.
Tucker il give you a tip. Dont expect much from them and they might deliver in one of these winnable games.
Im not even convinced we will beat the Suns in Cairns. We have an issue beating teams we should. Suns, Port Adelaide, Freo
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Crowley has taken some huge scalps this year. In all honesty no players had any impact on the game whatsoever, which is a huge win for Fremantle. We played 21 vs 21 today, because of the Crowley tag who touched the ball 10 times with 100% game time. Complete shut down role.
Freo are going no where with that list and gameplan, can't play shut down footy and have your tagger not getting possessions.
Not a panic loss but one of those ones you just brush off and move on. Wont be playing Freo again till next year so they can get stuffed.
Play them again in Round 21 in Perth. One of those games we need to get back in the second half of the year if we are to play finals. A must win.
Tucker il give you a tip. Dont expect much from them and they might deliver in one of these winnable games.
Im not even convinced we will beat the Suns in Cairns. We have an issue beating teams we should. Suns, Port Adelaide, Freo
It's becoming an awful habit losing to sides we should win.Last season as you mentioned and now this season the first game we are expected to win after a horror draw.
Club and players need to deal with the expectation and the carrying of that weight of expectation associated with success.
Let's see how we deal with this over the next week and take it from there. They have done to well and have rewarded the fans with too much good will so far this season. Let our footy do the talking against GWS and lets at least go 6-6 into the break with some positivity.
After Dreamtime at 3-5 to go 6-6 we would have taken it. For this week I am willing to take today as an blip on the radar and with some refocusing and restructuring we should be back on track. :thumbsup
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Lids has made the AFL site's Team of the Week on a wing.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/138892/default.aspx
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The question at the start of the year was if Lids could deliver moving full-time into the midfield. The answer now is YEP!
Lids is No.1 in the AFL for inside 50s with 68 and equal 8th in the whole comp. for most disposals (330).
Lids leads inside-50s (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/139597/default.aspx)
Tiger ball magnets (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/139505/default.aspx)
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I always had questions over his inside work but as a outside midfielder he is one of the best in the game. I said earlier in the thread that when he first began playing he was our most damaging midfielder even at a very young age and therefor had to deal with the number one tagger. I also said that now with Cotch, Martin and Foley playing so well it made it hard to pick who to tag. Unfortunately for Lids, he is now the number one target as the opposition have realised they can't tag Cotchin regardless. Hope he has learnt how to shake the tag better than when he first began his career.
We are very lucky to have such a talent in our side :thumbsup
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Lids takes over from the now injured Kade Simpson as the AFL's leading consecutive games holder (107 games straight). He hasn't missed a game since Round 17, 2007 [touchwood] and has played 164 games out of a possible 168 since making his AFL debut back in round 1, 2005.
Read full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/141193/default.aspx
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You can bid for Lids' boots ...
(https://auctiondesq.imgstg.com/assets/auctiondesq/lots/images/main/lidsboots2300.jpg)
Your chance to own these one of kind Adidas boots, personally designed & signed by Brett Deledio.
Brett wore the boots in Richmond's round 18 clash against Carlton.
All proceeds from the sale going towards the Alannah and Madeline Foundation.
https://auctiondesq.imgstg.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=item&auctionid=33029&orgid=1751
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Lids has pretty much put to bed any criticism prior to this year that he couldn't play midfield in the guts. Some of those bursts from the centre bounces last night including the one that he finished off with a 60m goal were sheer class :bow. Every part of his game has gone up to a new level this year - disposals (avg 28), marks, tackling, etc... :thumbsup
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weapon.
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Lids has pretty much put to bed any criticism prior to this year that he couldn't play midfield in the guts. Some of those bursts from the centre bounces last night including the one that he finished off with a 60m goal were sheer class :bow. Every part of his game has gone up to a new level this year - disposals (avg 28), marks, tackling, etc... :thumbsup
I'm convinced.
:thumbsup
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Because I always expected him to be one of the games elite :clapping
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Lids has pretty much put to bed any criticism prior to this year that he couldn't play midfield in the guts. Some of those bursts from the centre bounces last night including the one that he finished off with a 60m goal were sheer class :bow. Every part of his game has gone up to a new level this year - disposals (avg 28), marks, tackling, etc... :thumbsup
Was a standout last night - Charlie = 3.
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VIDEO: Deledio's long bomb on the run :bow
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/News/Article/tabid/6301/default.aspx?newsid=143736#embedvideoplayer
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Had a mate go to a sportsmans night which one Terence Wallet was a guest speaker. My mate asked him afterward about Lids to which he replied that he would never make a mid fielder which is why he put him on a back flank.
Another example of vomit from the Mr Plow
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Won two B&F's under Wallet as a midfielder.
I reckon Wallet might throw his hat in the ring at Port. They could do with some spin and a 5 year plan. Reunite with DRod.
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Nah Davey I reckon the leatherskin is quite comfortable where he is now, at least he's spuin little puddle of vomit if he went to port he would drown in it. Either that or the mullet wearin, gun totin moccas will blast him to pieces
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Does anyone know the statistics with regards to Richmond wins when Delidio kicks a goal/s - I reckon it's a fairly high percentage
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Apparently Stanton is better than Deledio according to Bummerz fans :rollin
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Boorent Stanton? GTFO
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Lids' 'Ferrari' wheels at training today ...
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg443/scaled.php?tn=0&server=443&filename=9ozv.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg29/scaled.php?tn=0&server=29&filename=48ky.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
http://yfrog.com/0t48kyj
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Apparently Stanton is better than Deledio according to Bummerz fans :rollin
Ahahahaha the Veruka's were booing last year everytime he got the pill and even cheered when he got stretchered off the ground. :stupid
Now he is better than Deledio. :lol :rollin :lol
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:lol
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Ferrari wheels or twisties shrinkies? :huh3
Whoa
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Lids > buddy
:whistle
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According to Hutchy, Lids will be on Ch 9's TAC Cup Future Stars shortly.
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Reckon Lids will be having nightmares about Ryan Crowley for a week. Has been beaten twice by him now.
I thought that when Lids kicked that goal we were going to win - but Lids really got hard tagged out - which is a credit to Crowley's fitness.
We need that mongrel player to help protect Lids, Cotch & co
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Reckon Lids will be having nightmares about Ryan Crowley for a week. Has been beaten twice by him now.
I thought that when Lids kicked that goal we were going to win - but Lids really got hard tagged out - which is a credit to Crowley's fitness.
We need that mongrel player to help protect Lids, Cotch & co
Maybe that's where Maloney could step in? Get a good pre-season with the tiges, get real fit. Just a suggestion.
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NEWS: Jeep, Major Sponsor of the Richmond Football Club, has named a car after Brett Deledio.
http://www.jeep.com.au/grand-cherokee-jet
Take that Cotchy 8)
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A sign that he is new captain 8)
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Why has the poll been left on the top of this thread? As a site veteran and warrior poet i am emplored to say its very poor form from the mods >:(
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NEWS: Jeep, Major Sponsor of the Richmond Football Club, has named a car after Brett Deledio.
http://www.jeep.com.au/grand-cherokee-jet
Take that Cotchy 8)
Those jeeps are to expensive for the poo quality interior.
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Why has the poll been left on the top of this thread? As a site veteran and warrior poet i am emplored to say its very poor form from the mods >:(
No one cares how good you think you are :banghead
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NEWS: Jeep, Major Sponsor of the Richmond Football Club, has named a car after Brett Deledio.
http://www.jeep.com.au/grand-cherokee-jet
Take that Cotchy 8)
But Cotchy is an official Jeep ambassador and is the face of an ad campaign :thumbsup
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Why has the poll been left on the top of this thread? As a site veteran and warrior poet i am emplored to say its very poor form from the mods >:(
No one cares how good you think you are :banghead
Yesss The big Man from Burney :clapping
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I clicked 'get a quote' on the jeep website and it told me to 'go all in!' ....?
:huh3
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big year for lids next year.
i wanna see the bloke take a game
by the scruff of the neck..
still waiting. :bow
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Is it too late to vote "No"?
;D
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Posted by Lids on twitter:
"Rapt to be out of hospital."
It explains why he wasn't at the All-Australian last night. He had a minor knee clean up according to BF.
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Thank god, ive been beside myself waiting on some good news :clapping
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good to see it was only a minor clean up. Big preseason and take the comp by storm in 2013
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If deledio was played full time in the forward line next.season what would the outcome be?
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1000s of pages of interweb arguments
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For the first time (if everyone status fit) I feel.we have the luxury of playing lids fwd.
The backline seems to be stable dispite being Deledio free.
potential mid group: Cotchin. Martin. Foley. Tuck. Conca. Ellis. Knights. #9. Grigg. Edwards.
+ Aarnot. Helbig.
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If deledio was played full time in the forward line next.season what would the outcome be?
Our midfield would be weaker
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If deledio was played full time in the forward line next.season what would the outcome be?
70 goals
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Hell, our engine room isnt that good. We dont have that kind of luxury. Maybe if Concs or Ellis step up massively.
Lids is very damaging in the midfield. Leave him there.
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We would lose more in the midfield than we would gain in the forward line. His run and carry are vital for us and I think our mids rotating through the forward line make them all much more potent than if just one of them (Lids or Dusty mainly) stayed down there.
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Lids can be a 30 possession game player and 30-40 goal midfielder.
Used correctly and with depth in the side he can be more damaging than what he already is. :thumbsup
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Lids' Wedding Day today
Congrats to he and Katie :clapping.
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Lids' Wedding Day today
Congrats to he and Katie :clapping.
He's getting married on a Friday?
Pics or gtfo
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Lids' Wedding Day today
Congrats to he and Katie :clapping.
He's getting married on a Friday?
Pics or gtfo
Grigg posted a pic of Lids and Newy today.
Also, seeing Lids thread at top of the list on last day of trade week nearly gave me heart attack. >:(
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Lids' Wedding Day today
Congrats to he and Katie :clapping.
He's getting married on a Friday?
Pics or gtfo
Grigg posted a pic of Lids and Newy today.
Also, seeing Lids thread at top of the list on last day of trade week nearly gave me heart attack. >:(
Pics or gtfo
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Grigg's in the wedding party. Obviously fitting in nicely down at tigerland
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The Groom himself on the way to his wedding
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256164715
Earlier, Lids with groomsman Newy ....
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256118626
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Lids' Wedding Day today
Congrats to he and Katie :clapping.
He's getting married on a Friday?
Pics or gtfo
Grigg posted a pic of Lids and Newy today.
Also, seeing Lids thread at top of the list on last day of trade week nearly gave me heart attack. >:(
Pics or gtfo
Too lazy. Thank god for OE
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Lids' Wedding Day today
Congrats to he and Katie :clapping.
He's getting married on a Friday?
Pics or gtfo
Grigg posted a pic of Lids and Newy today.
Also, seeing Lids thread at top of the list on last day of trade week nearly gave me heart attack. >:(
Pics or gtfo
Too lazy. Thank god for OE
Praise Geez
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Lids' Wedding Day today
Congrats to he and Katie :clapping.
He's getting married on a Friday?
Pics or gtfo
Grigg posted a pic of Lids and Newy today.
Also, seeing Lids thread at top of the list on last day of trade week nearly gave me heart attack. >:(
Pics or gtfo
Too lazy. Thank god for OE
Praise Geez
:bow
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Newy and Griggy with friends at the wedding ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256213701
Lids' bride Katie with Griggy ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256209768
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Newy and Griggy with friends at the wedding ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256213701
Lids' bride Katie with Griggy ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256209768
What's with all the ray ban wayfarers?
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Newy and Griggy with friends at the wedding ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256213701
Lids' bride Katie with Griggy ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256209768
What's with all the ray ban wayfarers?
Bat smokers
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Newy and Griggy with friends at the wedding ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256213701
Lids' bride Katie with Griggy ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256209768
What's with all the ray ban wayfarers?
Bat smokers
All copying eachother
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Newy and Griggy with friends at the wedding ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256213701
Lids' bride Katie with Griggy ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256209768
What's with all the ray ban wayfarers?
Need some white oakleys like dooks 8)
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Newy and Griggy with friends at the wedding ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256213701
Lids' bride Katie with Griggy ...
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/256209768
What's with all the ray ban wayfarers?
Need some white oakleys like dooks 8)
The yobbo wayfarers
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Stanton >>>>>>>>> Deledio
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Stanton >>>>>>>>> Deledio
You left out [bomberblitz] [/bomberblitz] ;D
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Keep him in the midfield
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Stanton >>>>>>>>> Deledio
You left out [bomberblitz] [/bomberblitz] ;D
loooooooooooooooooooooollllll
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Lids just tweeted this tonight ....
BrettDeledio03: "Been a relaxing week in the Maldives with the wife. Looking fwd to getting back into it with the boys! #gotiges"
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Lurvely spot.
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Hopefully shes preggers already
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Poor mans Foley.
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Lids has also got into the Mo-vember spirit ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7ZGTwjCYAA0rFS.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BrettDeledio03/status/267478533130051584/photo/1
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Bit of Chopper Reid about that. Lids looks badass.
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Bit of Chopper Reid about that. Lids looks badass.
Griggy also has the Chopper Reid look going.
(https://api.plixi.com/api/tpapi.svc/imagefromurl?size=medium&url=http%3A%2F%2Flockerz.com%2Fs%2F260482151)
https://twitter.com/i/#!/ShaunGrigg6/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Flockerz.com%2Fs%2F260482151
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Griggy just looks like a tool.
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What's with all the shaved heads?
[ridiculous rant] maybe they should shave Dustin's head so he can start concentrate on playing a half decent game once in awhile. Shave Jack's ridiculous hair off so he can kick 150 this year. Is that too much to ask? FFS :banghead [/ridiculous rant]
[bomberblitz] Deledio is Stanton's bitch. [/bomberblitz]
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Bit of Chopper Reid about that. Lids looks badass.
Griggy also has the Chopper Reid look going.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdbt-sx5MDc
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What's with all the shaved heads?
[ridiculous rant] maybe they should shave Dustin's head so he can start concentrate on playing a half decent game once in awhile. Shave Jack's ridiculous hair off so he can kick 150 this year. Is that too much to ask? FFS :banghead [/ridiculous rant]
[bomberblitz] Deledio is Stanton's bitch. [/bomberblitz]
:lol
[ridiculous rant]Instead of spending so much time on growing moustaches, they should be out training and learning to ice the clock in the final 5 minutes of a game!! :banghead [/ridiculous rant]
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Not so ridiculous
T2011 Wayne.
edited to correct name. Oops!
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What's with all the shaved heads?
[ridiculous rant] maybe they should shave Dustin's head so he can start concentrate on playing a half decent game once in awhile. Shave Jack's ridiculous hair off so he can kick 150 this year. Is that too much to ask? FFS :banghead [/ridiculous rant]
[bomberblitz] Deledio is Stanton's bitch. [/bomberblitz]
:lol
[ridiculous rant]Instead of spending so much time on growing moustaches, they should be out training and learning to ice the clock in the final 5 minutes of a game!! :banghead [/ridiculous rant]
:lol
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Lids sets a cracking pace
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 07 Dec, 2012
Dual Jack Dyer Medallist Brett Deledio will enter the 2013 season in equal-seventh place on Richmond’s all-time list for consecutive games.
Deledio, 25, has now played 115 games in-a-row, from Round 18, 2007, to Round 23, 2012. He is No. 1 in the competition for consecutive games ...
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/152166/default.aspx
Hopefully it doesn't mozz him but it shows how durable Lids has been.
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Brett Deledio @BrettDeledio03 twitter:
"Rapt to be onboard the @adidasAU wagon for another two yrs. Keep an eye out for my #miadidas inventions this yr."
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Out of the rehab group
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Out of the rehab group
inb4hammy
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:shh
Is it the year lids turns into the hulk and has a year like his fellow wog Kouta ripping the comp from its balls.
May well be. Lids has the internal fire ragging to prove he's the finest player on our list :thumbsup little bit of.Hodge/mitchell
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Out of the rehab group
inb4hammy
Mr B Deledio has the honor of being one of the games most resilient ever footballers in regards to games missed via injury. To this point in time.
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Lids knowing where his bread is buttered lol.
Brett Deledio @BrettDeledio03 twitter:
"Want to say a big thankyou to all my sponsors for looking after me this yr. @adidasAU @OakleyAUS_NZ @QuiksilverAUS @jeepaustralia #gotiges"
Also he and Morris have been training together down in Torquay.
Brett Deledio @BrettDeledio03
"Good running session this morning with @stevemorris38 down at torquay. No sign of @travisboak10, must've been working the 💪. "
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I just voted Yes to the poll question :lol
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I just voted Yes to the poll question :lol
As far as I'm aware he did leave in 09
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Deledio joins the AFL's elite
By Adrian Ceddia
richmondfc.com.au
Tuesday, January 1, 2013
If there were any doubts about Brett Deledio’s potential to push into the AFL’s elite bracket, they were well and truly put to rest in 2012.
Deledio became one of the most accomplished players in the competition, producing the best football of his remarkably consistent league career.
The 25-year-old made the permanent move into the midfield, after spending several seasons establishing himself as one of the game’s most damaging rebounding defenders, and he thrived in the role.
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-01-01/deledio-joins-the-afls-elite
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Lids' new wheels for 2013 ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAIzpaGCcAAOk8R.jpg:large)
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Lids' new wheels for 2013 ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAIzpaGCcAAOk8R.jpg:large)
:spew
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At least he won't lose his shoes in the dark.
Always has had a showy side.
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At least he won't lose his shoes in the dark.
Always has had a showy side.
Aka ****
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Lids' new wheels for 2013 ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAIzpaGCcAAOk8R.jpg:large)
Apprarently the Collingwood ones only come in either slip-on or Velcro models as they are yet to harness the power of the opposable thumb. ;D
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i thought the collingwood ones had no laces so they stopped chucking them over powerlines :huh
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:lol lotsalulz
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Alright yo be showy when you are a gun.
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Alright yo be showy when you are a gun.
No dispute. Just pointing it out.
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Is Lids looking more a beefed up unit this preseason?
(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/74333_10151357073698276_2028442662_n.jpg)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151357073698276&set=a.10151357073163276.503135.298686323275&type=3&theater
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Is Lids looking more a beefed up unit this preseason?
(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/74333_10151357073698276_2028442662_n.jpg)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151357073698276&set=a.10151357073163276.503135.298686323275&type=3&theater
Not really
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Is Lids looking more a beefed up unit this preseason?
Not last year or two.
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Lids has gone for the No.1
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/02/15/275472.jpg) (http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/02/15/275470.jpg)
http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202013%20Training%20-%20Richmond%20Intra%20Club%20Match&image_id=275463
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Lids has gone for the No.1
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/02/15/275472.jpg) (http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/02/15/275470.jpg)
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Looks tough as nails. Hope he does it all year
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Lids has gone for the No.1
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What if the first picture is him trying to catch the ball, and the second is the ball bouncing away?
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Deledio on the job
Emma Quayle
The Age
February 16, 2013
BRETT Deledio didn't want to be Richmond's next captain. He really didn't. He knew people wanted the job for him, that they were sure it was what he would become. He knew what they believed: that it was meant to be. He had tried to think the same things, but four years ago he didn't even want to stay in the club's leadership group, let alone assume any greater responsibilities. There were too many meetings, too much talking. He wanted to be off in other places, working on other things. “I knew what you had to do and what you had to give,” he said, “but I couldn't work out what the reward was.”
He has changed. The night before Deledio and Trent Cotchin were called in to see their coach late last year, to find out which of them would replace Chris Newman as captain, Deledio told his younger teammate that no matter what happened, he would do all he could to help him out. He meant it, absolutely, and knew what a good choice Cotchin would be. But that didn't mean he was relieved to miss out, and hear Damien Hardwick say he would be vice-captain instead. As it turned out, he did want the job.
“I did, I really did. I remember saying to Cotch: I'm going to support you no matter what happens, and I'm going to do it wholeheartedly, and this decision isn't going to change any of that,” said Deledio. “Even now, I know there are things he does well that I'm still working on, and ways that I can cover off on other things and do the things I'm good at. That's still going to happen, but at the same time I was disappointed, because I really wanted the job. I really wanted to be captain of the footy club.”
Deledio knows when his mind began changing. He started, first, to feel like something other, or something more, than the No.?1 draft pick and a player that people wanted to do and be certain things. He started to understand why they saw those things in him, and like his teammates had begun to understand him. He felt his side start to grow around him, to feel stronger. He was out of contract when Hardwick became coach four years ago and can remember him holding his arms out and asking for a hug when Deledio promised he would stay. He realised that Richmond was where he wanted to be, forever.
As a footballer he has evolved too, learning from the players around him and from the different parts of the ground he has been asked to play in. This year, it will be the midfield again. “I'll probably be out on the wing a bit, but mostly in the middle. I think that's how it'll go,” he said. “Playing in there is a bit different now, for me. I learnt a lot playing at half-back, I learnt a lot about the defensive side of the game, and what defenders go through and what they expect of the midfielders. That's going to benefit me a lot more now. I know how they feel, I know what they want, and how much they love the midfielders getting the ball.”
The people around him have seen other things occur to him. “I reckon when he first came in he was like most super-talented, super-competitive kids. He just battled a little bit with understanding normal players, or less talented players, and with getting his head around the struggles that they had and he didn't,” said assistant coach Wayne Campbell, who runs the leadership program.
“As he's matured, he's realised that not all players have it as easy as he does in terms of talent, but also that if he wants to get the sort of success he's always wanted, then he needs to be able to help those players out. He's started to see that, as he's gotten a bit older and wiser, he's been able to play an extremely high level the whole time, so he's started to think, what's next?
“He's become very good in team meetings, just with asking the right questions and making sure that different situations are cleared up. He's a really good trainer and he's probably been our best trainer for a while, but he's gotten better and better at running sessions, holding it up when things aren't right and he's impatient about getting some success and starting to show that in a positive way. But I really like him in the meetings. He might know the answer already, but he can pick when other people don't.”
For Deledio, another important moment came even before Hardwick became his new boss. Captaining the side for a game at the end of 2009, when Newman was out injured, he enjoyed all the little things that came with replacing him: talking to the players before the game, leading them onto the ground, knowing that they were depending on him and that he could rely on them too.
“I think that, early on, I felt the pressure of everyone wanting me to be captain,” he said. “There were so many other expectations, and people were looking to me to be the one who was standing up, and at times it all felt too much. But with some experience, I started to feel more comfortable with that. I started to feel more comfortable as a leader, speaking in front of the group.
“It was around then that it started, the end of 2009 and definitely 2010. And I couldn't have known everything at 21 or 22, so I've even just gotten a bit older. I started to feel that the boys respected me for who I was and what I'd done, and it takes a lot of pressure off when you look around and you know you can rely on other people to do their job, especially if you're having a bad day. Everyone's different and I think that's important, finding out what those differences are and knowing how people work.”
Still, he is a competitor. He wants to be good at more things, at everything he can be. “There's always something else you want to do. I put pretty high expectations on myself in that way, I think. I look at Trent and he's just a natural-born leader. You watch him play and think I want to do that too, at all costs. That's where I want to take my game, to be that player who kicks that goal or does something special to get the side up and going. It's probably impossible, but I'd love to be that sort of full package, I suppose, where you're not really lagging in any area. And everyone has opportunities for that. It's just whether you take them or not.”
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/deledio-on-the-job-20130215-2ej07.html#ixzz2Kz5CC4Mj
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:shh
Lids
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Deledio’s defensive mindset
By richmondfc.com.au
7:15pm Monday, February 18, 2013
Dual Jack Dyer Medallist Brett Deledio believes he’s a much more rounded player now, due to the time he spent playing across Richmond’s half-back line.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-02-18/deledios-defensive-mindset
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The difference for years is that Lids has been all about Lids. I think the reason for this is multiple including natural talent and arrogance as a result, youth and a bit of introspection (as he eluding to in the article). I believe Lids is one of the those players that could actually grow into leadership later in his career once the penny starts to drop that the sport is team driven and he needs to help those around him to be successful himself.
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The difference for year is that Lids has been all about Lids for much of his career.
You what
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The difference for year is that Lids has been all about Lids for much of his career. I think the reason for this is multiple including natural talent and arrogance as a result, youth and a bit of introspection (as he eluding to in the article). I believe Lids is one of the those players that could actually grow into leadership later in his career once the penny starts to drop that the sport is team driven and he needs to help those around him to be successful himself.
Not sure what you mean Lids being all about himself for most of his career Stripes.
Furthest thing from my mind when i think about Lids the player. Don't think people should mistake a will too be the best you can be and to succeed as arrogance
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Not sure what you mean Lids being all about himself for most of his career Stripes.
Furthest thing from my mind when i think about Lids the player. Don't think people should mistake a will too be the best you can be and to succeed as arrogance
Lids himself stated as much even in that article. Choco Williams also said the same recently. Richo also said the same thing to me a couple of years a go too - told me to also convince as many fans as possible to get his autograph because Lids had little time for such things. Richo liked the idea of stirring him up as much as possible.
By arrogant, I mean self focused and introverted. He was determined to be the best and everything came very naturally too him. If you read the article in the age, he states that he had no interest in leadership as he got nothing out of it. The only attraction to him with leadership is the accolades and individual awards that came with it.
I think he has changed though. I think he is now starting to see the bigger picture, seeing that if he wants success himself he needs those around him to improve and play well too. I believe this is why he now was to lead and why he has changed his attitude recently.
Does this help Coach -
Lids was very focused on his own game and own career for the early part of his playing life. :thumbsup
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Not sure what you mean Lids being all about himself for most of his career Stripes.
Furthest thing from my mind when i think about Lids the player. Don't think people should mistake a will too be the best you can be and to succeed as arrogance
Lids himself stated as much even in that article.
Don't believe everything you read even if it's a quote from the horses mouth. Journos can make stuff up. Just look at the Balmey article. :shh
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as good a player as he is, he struggled having to adhere to a game plan....and probably still will.
As instinctive as he could be, he doesn't play instinctive footy
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I think he struggled having to play with so many numpties.....and probably still will
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The difference for years is that Lids has been all about Lids. I think the reason for this is multiple including natural talent and arrogance as a result, youth and a bit of introspection (as he eluding to in the article). I believe Lids is one of the those players that could actually grow into leadership later in his career once the penny starts to drop that the sport is team driven and he needs to help those around him to be successful himself.
Right, Sigmund.
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I think he struggled having to play with so many numpties.....and probably still will
Agree, althopugh the numpties are slowly being weeded out with one or two being kept for blame deflection purposes
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Brett Deledio twitter:
"Thinking yellow for home games and white for away games? Thoughts? @adidasAU"
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https://twitter.com/BrettDeledio03/status/309193784808325120/photo/1
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Don't give a stuff Lids. Just as long as you put them to good use on game day. :thumbsup
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They're not allowed nice boots at Essendung because they chuck them over power lines.
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Don't give a stuff Lids. Just as long as you put them to good use on game day. :thumbsup
Amen
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Lids, if u wear north melbourne colours on your boots ill huck stubbies at ya
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I liked it when the whole team wore these:
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Brett Deledio twitter:
"Thinking yellow for home games and white for away games? Thoughts? @adidasAU"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEp6G-6CQAABokx.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/BrettDeledio03/status/309193784808325120/photo/1
Don't change your new boots Lids when you're dobbing them from 50m+ :bow. He's going to single-handedly destroy some sides this year now that we can finally rotate him forward during games.
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hands like wheel flaps!
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Gazelle
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Quiet last quarter but took two brilliant contested marks in the last. Sensational last night. :thumbsup
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Stood up and kicked a great goal in the third to stop the rot after judd had an influence in three quick carlton goals. :thumbsup
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Loved that goal al, especially considering he put the burners on and left Judd behind ;D
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Yeah, he stood up when we needed it and curbed their enthusiasms. That could of been the difference right there in the third when they were going to just go reckless on us.
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Which one of you legends was yelling give him the Brownlow all night? :lol peeed off the Carlton fans no end. :lol
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VIDEO: Deledio's 3 goals ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-03-30/round-1-deledios-3-goals
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That running goal Lids kicked in the third quarter was friggen awesome.
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Did he get a touch in the last quarter?
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Couple vital contested marks
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Don't think so
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Don't think so
Think he did take at least one, right near the end. Apart from the "2" he apparently took, nothing
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yeah thought he took 1, point was he had stuff all impact in that qtr, needed to get his hands on it and stop the rot
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Would not swap him fo Judd or ablett. :shh
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Great game by Lids. Excellent.
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gun
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:clapping
And he had a lot of mates. :clapping
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we have some serious star quality now and lids is right up there. :clapping
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gun
Ditto.
Lids is in absolute superstar now he's able to push forward of centre. Goalkicking mids are priceless :thumbsup.
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Love that he now takes the game on and tries to make things happen a lot more. Super game today, between him and Martin for BOG
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gun
Ditto.
Lids is in absolute superstar now he's able to push forward of centre. Goalkicking mids are priceless :thumbsup.
Yep his run and carry forward of the centre has been a critical component of more direct play. Goal kicking mids who on the run after two or three bounces can kick them from outside 50 are priceless. He has now risen to the elite category. :thumbsup
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orgasmic ... that's how mcaveny will describe him
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X, you didnt mention Rance :shh
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X, you didnt mention Rance :shh
I did in another thread... rance again was no good... beaten by a no body.. I don't look at his flashy runs ... facts are he gets beaten on the scoreboard every week... he is our weak link and opposition clubs know this and know be is vulnerable close to goal.. Chaplin and Grimes fantastic today.. rance well he is lucky astbury and Griffiths aren't up to it
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X, you didnt mention Rance :shh
I did in another thread... rance again was no good... beaten by a no body.. I don't look at his flashy runs ... facts are he gets beaten on the scoreboard every week... he is our weak link and opposition clubs know this and know be is vulnerable close to goal.. Chaplin and Grimes fantastic today.. rance well he is lucky astbury and Griffiths aren't up to it
Griffs had a decent pre-season. Beat Kosi in VFL round 1. Had a solid first three quarters yesterday. He is young, huge and being played out of position. Harsh call to call him a failure.
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Dynamic Deledio
By richmondfc.com.au
5:01pm AEST Wednesday, April 17, 2013
New Richmond captain Trent Cotchin has lauded the consistently high output of fellow midfield star Brett Deledio.
In the wake of Deledio’s superb, 27-possession, three-goal performance against the Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium last Sunday, Cotchin poured praise on the No. 1 pick in the 2004 AFL National Draft, who turns 26 tomorrow (Thursday, April 18).
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-17/dynamic-deledio
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VERY disappointed in Deledio, really thought he would break the match open!
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He is a stage pony.
Never looks for a player free, if he sees the goals within 50.
Not a team man.
Cost us 2 easy goals in the first half.
Needs to work on this, our Lids does.
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What a poo thread. Did you miss the half a dozen moments in the first half when he was breaking fwd in space and his teammates missed him every single time, that cost us multiple goals and is the difference between a poo thread like this appearing and not appearing.
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Agree with Tony, Lids is a gun and is often in space, a super kick most of the time and the 1% are awesome! Unlucky that the umps mate Swanny was playing too especially when Lids nabbed him at the 50 in the last quarter which was holding the ball, but play on was the call!
A CHAMPION, happy he is at Tigerland
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LMAO at the trollsters
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Very funny thread
Sad but funny
Let's blame Lids,
might as blame Cotch while your at it, he was a clanger king today not sure using the criteria of this thread not that I'm sure what the criteria is I might add but you could say he didn't stand up either
Could add quite few more.
Please deep breath ;D
BTW good post TM
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Very funny thread
Sad but funny
Let's blame Lids,
might as blame Cotch while your at it, he was a clanger king today not sure using the criteria of this thread not that I'm sure what the criteria is I might add but you could say he didn't stand up either
Could add quite few more.
Please deep breath ;D
BTW good post TM
Very funny post, where did he blame Lids? So annoying when we lose, people seem to not be allowed to criticise a player because "all players played bad." If all players were playing bad, as VC Lids should be one of a couple really standing up.
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lids last 6 games v th epies iirc had over 30 touches
he stands up
he had no support yesterday and cotchin this yr may be getting a lot of touches but his disposal has been jacksonesque
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Very funny thread
Sad but funny
Let's blame Lids,
might as blame Cotch while your at it, he was a clanger king today not sure using the criteria of this thread not that I'm sure what the criteria is I might add but you could say he didn't stand up either
Could add quite few more.
Please deep breath ;D
BTW good post TM
Very funny post, where did he blame Lids? So annoying when we lose, people seem to not be allowed to criticise a player because "all players played bad." If all players were playing bad, as VC Lids should be one of a couple really standing up.
Criticise when its justified, its not in this case. The thread title clearly states will he EVER stand up in big games. So he's never stood up in big games? Really?
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Very funny post, where did he blame Lids? So annoying when we lose, people seem to not be allowed to criticise a player because "all players played bad." If all players were playing bad, as VC Lids should be one of a couple really standing up.
Gee I don't know :-\
would think the title of thread clearly implies that Lids is one of the players to blame for yesterday. Doesn't the thread suggest he NEVER stands up in big games, isn't that apportioning blame for the loss?
No problem with people being critical of players but if you are going to be critical then been critical of all who deserve it rather singling out the odd one or two.
And look at some of the comments. "A show pony", "not a team player" can't help but laugh at those.
Lids was poor yesterday but so were so many others. I question whether any of our leaders really "stood up" yesterday. But the only leader that appears to be copping it is Deledio.
Just believe people are over reacting to this loss that was against a top 4 side.
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lets just close the joint down everyone seems to be depressed :lol
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I was until I read your post Ramps! :lol
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lets just close the joint down everyone seems to be depressed :lol
I'm not depressed Ramps, I have to stay positive I'm flying to Perth on Friday ;D
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VERY disappointed in Deledio, really thought he would break the match open!
No player in the afl would have broke the match open for us.
He's ended withn25 touches...
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lids last 6 games v th epies iirc had over 30 touches
he stands up
he had no support yesterday and cotchin this yr may be getting a lot of touches but his disposal has been jacksonesque
IIRC Richmond has lost the past 6 against Collingwood comfortably and Deledio loves gathering cheap possessions when the match is dead and burried.
If he had another 17 possessions and 3 goals like he did against Carlton, that was more of an impact than Saturday's match! 25 possessions that had no impact.
Deledio should be a Top 5 player in the AFL and his name should be up there with Pendlebury, Judd, Franklin, Ablett as a player that off his own boot can win us a match.
When he takes the game on and breaks the lines he is the best in the game. Good players have disappointing matches, he definitely wasn't alone on Saturday (Martin), just sick of hearing how good he is against below average teams and not producing 30 possession, 3 goal matches against top eight teams.
The Carlton match (expect for the final quarter) he was terrific!
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Very funny post, where did he blame Lids? So annoying when we lose, people seem to not be allowed to criticise a player because "all players played bad." If all players were playing bad, as VC Lids should be one of a couple really standing up.
Gee I don't know :-\
would think the title of thread clearly implies that Lids is one of the players to blame for yesterday. Doesn't the thread suggest he NEVER stands up in big games, isn't that apportioning blame for the loss?
No problem with people being critical of players but if you are going to be critical then been critical of all who deserve it rather singling out the odd one or two.
And look at some of the comments. "A show pony", "not a team player" can't help but laugh at those.
Lids was poor yesterday but so were so many others. I question whether any of our leaders really "stood up" yesterday. But the only leader that appears to be copping it is Deledio.
Just believe people are over reacting to this loss that was against a top 4 side.
No I took the title as he doesn't stand up in big games. Not "Lids lost us this game". The list is to long to single out everyone who cares if they don't, as long as they don't try and argue the fact x player had a shocker when they did and try and place it all on one. Have to laugh at "not a team player" but don't see what that's got to do with my post. Just reckon if he wants to criticise Deledio he has every right to. He has struggled this year when the going gets tough.
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lids last 6 games v th epies iirc had over 30 touches
he stands up
he had no support yesterday and cotchin this yr may be getting a lot of touches but his disposal has been jacksonesque
IIRC Richmond has lost the past 6 against Collingwood comfortably and Deledio loves gathering cheap possessions when the match is dead and burried.
If he had another 17 possessions and 3 goals like he did against Carlton, that was more of an impact than Saturday's match! 25 possessions that had no impact.
Deledio should be a Top 5 player in the AFL and his name should be up there with Pendlebury, Judd, Franklin, Ablett as a player that off his own boot can win us a match.
When he takes the game on and breaks the lines he is the best in the game. Good players have disappointing matches, he definitely wasn't alone on Saturday (Martin), just sick of hearing how good he is against below average teams and not producing 30 possession, 3 goal matches against top eight teams.
The Carlton match (expect for the final quarter) he was terrific!
Believe me. If peddlers, Judd, Franklink played at Richmond they wouldt look half as good.
If deledio played for Pies or hawks he'd be very very highly rated in the football world
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no one in our team except jack is capable of being a big fake player
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what?
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. Have to laugh at "not a team player" but don't see what that's got to do with my post. Just reckon if he wants to criticise Deledio he has every right to.
Just giving expamples of what in part made the thread funny, that and the over reactions ;D
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VERY disappointed in Deledio, really thought he would break the match open!
how didhe play R1 ::)
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IMO cotchin's disposal lately is of more concern than what lids has been doing
I'm tipping this will gain legs when Freo beat us
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He is a stage pony.
Never looks for a player free, if he sees the goals within 50.
Not a team man.
Cost us 2 easy goals in the first half.
Needs to work on this, our Lids does.
I had heard one of our former employees posted on this website and others too. 'Jackstar' is his name, they said. Well what an ordinary man he is. No wonder Plough got rid of you from our staff as he was well aware, loose lips sink ships :shh Unfortunately some of your kind are still about. Just.
Brett Deledio never looks for a free man, JStar? Is that right? Not a team man, JStar? Both of those statements are ridiculous and you would never repeat them to his face. I really hope you've been set up here JStar or should I say..................!!
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At the end of 2004 (when he was drafted) he was the player who gave us hope as others in the supposed fab 5 in his draft year fell away. He's an absolute star when he is on song and he has given us outstanding service, not often missing games. Sure he didnt have a good one against the Pies but he wasnt alone. Lids has been great value and he is in our top 3 players. Cant ask for much more IMHO.
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At the end of 2004 (when he was drafted) he was the player who gave us hope as others in the supposed fab 5 in his draft year fell away. He's an absolute star when he is on song and he has given us outstanding service, not often missing games. Sure he didnt have a good one against the Pies but he wasnt alone. Lids has been great value and he is in our top 3 players. Cant ask for much more IMHO.
Spot on, Rampstar
:clapping
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At the end of 2004 (when he was drafted) he was the player who gave us hope as others in the supposed fab 5 in his draft year fell away. He's an absolute star when he is on song and he has given us outstanding service, not often missing games. Sure he didnt have a good one against the Pies but he wasnt alone. Lids has been great value and he is in our top 3 players. Cant ask for much more IMHO.
I actually thought he was better than most on Saturday. Still got a lot of the ball but let himself down a couple of times with poor decisions. Not sure who else in the 22 you could mark higher on their game last weekend.
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I actually thought he was better than most on Saturday. Still got a lot of the ball but let himself down a couple of times with poor decisions. Not sure who else in the 22 you could mark higher on their game last weekend.
Tend to agree smokey, wasn't his best game but he wasn't our worst
Thing that was of most concern on Satruday for mine was he had more handballs than kicks. Being the best kick in our saide you want him kicking it more than handballing it IMO
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If vickery could catch his kick into the forward line when jack was open wouldn't have Ben mentioned.
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I don't get why he played on at times, usually a good smart player but seemed to get a bit ahead of him self. Got the handball out but as people say, should've been kicking and he couldn't when he plays on straight into a defender.
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I actually thought he was better than most on Saturday. Still got a lot of the ball but let himself down a couple of times with poor decisions. Not sure who else in the 22 you could mark higher on their game last weekend.
Tend to agree smokey, wasn't his best game but he wasn't our worst
Thing that was of most concern on Satruday for mine was he had more handballs than kicks. Being the best kick in our saide you want him kicking it more than handballing it IMO
again he wasnt the only one.
the amount of times they went one too many with a chain of handballs, a player time to kick handballing to someone who got pressured. :banghead
frustrating to watch, particularly as you say , lids is one of the blokes you want kicking the ball.
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we rarely have won big crunch games so you would expect our players to not be dominant....when the collective unit changes this ,then stars like lids will shine
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I don't get why he played on at times, usually a good smart player but seemed to get a bit ahead of him self. Got the handball out but as people say, should've been kicking and he couldn't when he plays on straight into a defender.
I would bet the team instructions was play on at all costs or something similar.
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I don't get why he played on at times, usually a good smart player but seemed to get a bit ahead of him self. Got the handball out but as people say, should've been kicking and he couldn't when he plays on straight into a defender.
I would bet the team instructions was play on at all costs or something similar.
Yeah but just two off the top of my head seemed silly
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Great to see Deledio running hard and collecting possessions!
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Great to see Deledio running hard and collecting possessions!
He is being tagged by the best in the league.
Expect a big 2nd half from him, and he would feel this too.
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Where are his teammates supporting him????
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Great to see Deledio running hard and collecting possessions!
He is being tagged by the best in the league.
Expect a big 2nd half from him, and he would feel this too.
agree Nick, Crowley towels up nigh on every single opponent he takes week in week out, beast of a tagger. Dont know if Lids can break the shackles tbh but I like how he was sacrificing his own game and creating a 2 on 1 by going to Mundy so Cotch could get free. Team play
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Playing great Deledio, tackles hard!
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Playing great Deledio, tackles hard!
You're right torch he's a dud, let's get rid of him
stuff me there are some morons out there
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Playing great Deledio, tackles hard!
You're right torch he's a dud, let's get rid of him
stuff me there are some morons out there
You are saying he is a "dud".
I am just saying how his impact tonight was A grade for an A grade player.
Has played more than 150 matches can't shake a tag.
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Playing great Deledio, tackles hard!
You're right torch he's a dud, let's get rid of him
stuff me there are some morons out there
You are saying he is a "dud".
I am just saying how his impact tonight was A grade for an A grade player.
Has played more than 150 matches can't shake a tag.
You sit there salivating to sink the boots in, bumps a sack hardwick thread 2 mins after the loss, classy bloke :thumbsup
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Some people say moronic things.
Some people write them.
Then there are others who live a moronic life.
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Some people say moronic things.
Some people write them.
Then there are others who live a moronic life.
you left one group out TB
and some that do all 3
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Some people say moronic things.
Some people write them.
Then there are others who live a moronic life.
you left one group out TB
and some that do all 3
you said it for me Tony. :thumbsup
I'm fuming right now and m slightly distracted. :help
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Some people say moronic things.
Some people write them.
Then there are others who live a moronic life.
Im not sure whether or not I should be feeling bad about life just at the minute :lol
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Warrior.
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look injured, groin.
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Hardwick stands up for Deledio
AAP/The Age
May 3, 2013
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick insists that any criticism of another Tigers gun, Brett Deledio, is way off the mark.
As expected, Fremantle coach Ross Lyon sent his gun tagger Ryan Crowley to shadow Deledio last Friday night.
But the two-time Tigers best and fairest winner countered that by going head-to-head with Dockers playmaker David Mundy - a move that was missed by many pundits.
"I was staggered to hear some of the comments that said he should have gone to Mundy, when he was actually going to Mundy for the whole game," Hardwick said on Thursday.
"David Mundy had 14 touches for the game and Brett had 20.
"He's effectively playing on two opponents.
"For us, Lids played his role last week.
"He was always going to get tagged by Crowley and we certainly went in with a plan.
"He delivered on the plan and took out a good player."
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hardwick-stands-up-for-deledio-20130502-2iv5t.html#ixzz2S9Ir7gyY
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:clapping
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Just goes to show why there are often wide gaps between what the club sees in a player and what we see. Almost all of us to a
man person (bloody political correctness) would have had Lids as being down and beaten last Friday night.
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Just goes to show why there are often wide gaps between what the club sees in a player and what we see. Almost all of us to a man person (bloody political correctness) would have had Lids as being down and beaten last Friday night.
Yep stats and highlight reel junkies
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So our best attacking midfielder is now a tagger, and Dimma is happy with his performances. Me thinks Dimma is a bit too friendly and comfortable with the players.
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Ablett gets tagged week in week out gets 30 possessions, so does Swan so does Selwood, we cant stop other teams star midfielders how come they manage to do it to ours so easily? It a mindset and a willingness to run hard and win through adversity, unfortunately its all too easy to sit back and watch the game rather than taking it by the scruff of the neck. Sorry but tonights loss is just a blatant reminder that we haven't really gone far since last year. In fact if anything i think we have gone backwards given the additional midfield depth we are supposed to have.
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How did Deledio go?
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How did Deledio go?
Look at the 'Leadership Group' and tell me who 'stood-up' tonight when it counted. Yes, Deledio is a problem but unfortunately it goes much deeper than that.
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How did Deledio go?
Was B.O.G in the warm up.
But was unlucky after that.He had an opponent.
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20 possessions and none of them dangerous. Get him to the back flank so he can set up some attack. He clearly doesn't work hard enough in the midfield so why kid ourselves and force the issue. Plus, I'm tired of Houli, Rance and co. butchering it out of defence.
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We were smashing the Cats in clearances but still not able to put them away, thats because defensively we give opposition players way too much space. We seem to be playing some sort of zone but for smart teams it just provides too much time for them. Sometimes I think man on man is the best way to go.
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We were smashing the Cats in clearances but still not able to put them away, thats because defensively we give opposition players way too much space. We seem to be playing some sort of zone but for smart teams it just provides too much time for them. Sometimes I think man on man is the best way to go.
like
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Feel sorry for Deledio. Dud coach anchoring this enormous talent in mediocrity. Deledio is far too talented to be tagged by an opposition player. The real tag is coming from Hardwick.
How do you conceive of a plan to make the highest skilled, most athletic footballer in your team a tagger. Where do you find the vision to free up Edwards and Jackson so that they can run rampant turning the ball over at will. The cherry on top of this master plan is to drop your best contested ball winner, Shane Tuck because their is no room left in this dream midfield for another average skilled, average speed player, even if he is effective and wins his own ball. Especially when you are so deluded with your own success after three wins that you think you don't need him anymore.
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Feel sorry for Deledio. Dud coach anchoring this enormous talent in mediocrity. Deledio is far too talented to be tagged by an opposition player. The real tag is coming from Hardwick.
How do you conceive of a plan to make the highest skilled, most athletic footballer in your team a tagger. Where do you find the vision to free up Edwards and Jackson so that they can run rampant turning the ball over at will. The cherry on top of this master plan is to drop your best contested ball winner, Shane Tuck because their is no room left in this dream midfield for another average skilled, average speed player, even if he is effective and wins his own ball. Especially when you are so deluded with your own success after three wins that you think you don't need him anymore.
In all fairness to dimma, he could have left him to it to try and beat Crowley on his own merits but I think we all know how that wouldve gone :whistle
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We know how it did go. He had no impact tagging and he isn't the player we can afford to have no impact.
You can speculate, but at the end of the day, Deledio is one of the best all round players in the AFL. Took forever to get a midfield spot. Then it was given up to a spud the moment the opposition called tag. Coach has zero confidence in him. Its a team game. Teammates should be blocking. Coach should be backing him in, not helping out the opposition.
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We know how it did go. He had no impact tagging and he isn't the player we can afford to have no impact.
You can speculate, but at the end of the day, Deledio is one of the best all round players in the AFL. Took forever to get a midfield spot. Then it was given up to a spud the moment the opposition called tag. Coach has zero confidence in him. Its a team game. Teammates should be blocking. Coach should be backing him in, not helping out the opposition.
Taylor Hunt says hi and he's not half the tagger that Crowley is.
Dimma made the right call against Freo
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I really like Lids but he does go missing in these types of games. That's not to say he hasn't played a good game against decent opposition but it is a problem.
The Freeo game, at stoppages he was concerned where Crowely was and not the pill. You can see it in his face that he is a beaten man.
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Deledio is near on our best player. If the rest of the team pulled their finger out and commanded a little more attention then maybe he wouldn't have 2-3 blokes constantly minding him.
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Feel sorry for Deledio. Dud coach anchoring this enormous talent in mediocrity. Deledio is far too talented to be tagged by an opposition player. The real tag is coming from Hardwick.
How do you conceive of a plan to make the highest skilled, most athletic footballer in your team a tagger. Where do you find the vision to free up Edwards and Jackson so that they can run rampant turning the ball over at will. The cherry on top of this master plan is to drop your best contested ball winner, Shane Tuck because their is no room left in this dream midfield for another average skilled, average speed player, even if he is effective and wins his own ball. Especially when you are so deluded with your own success after three wins that you think you don't need him anymore.
unplugged, that is the problem! Hardwick.
Deledio can play, yes he is soft but he is still good enough to go forward and kick 3-5. But would Mr Hardwick think of that? No. Hardwick WILL NOT "deviate" from his game plan.
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These are his stats, still ranked 52nd in the league, not bad for someone who is out of form??????
17, 27, 27, 22, 20, 20
Go Lids!!!!!!
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Feel sorry for Deledio. Dud coach anchoring this enormous talent in mediocrity. Deledio is far too talented to be tagged by an opposition player. The real tag is coming from Hardwick.
How do you conceive of a plan to make the highest skilled, most athletic footballer in your team a tagger. Where do you find the vision to free up Edwards and Jackson so that they can run rampant turning the ball over at will. The cherry on top of this master plan is to drop your best contested ball winner, Shane Tuck because their is no room left in this dream midfield for another average skilled, average speed player, even if he is effective and wins his own ball. Especially when you are so deluded with your own success after three wins that you think you don't need him anymore.
unplugged, that is the problem! Hardwick.
Deledio can play, yes he is soft but he is still good enough to go forward and kick 3-5. But would Mr Hardwick think of that? No. Hardwick WILL NOT "deviate" from his game plan.
Deledio is a man I am sure he doesn't blame the coach for his form like a little biatch
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More a crucial game after 3 straight losses than strictly a big one but Lids not only stood up today but killed it.
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Legend, knew he was down on form, didnt blame the coach, instead just got on his bike
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Boss.
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BOGd it
I'm off to the largs pier hotel to cold chisel a few more
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torch, when you are going to lay into our best player for not fronting up for big games, you might want to front up yourself when the going gets tough champ. :shh
No doubt you'll have your finger on the pulse the second the siren goes on his next quiet one.
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Close thread for this week, won't be required
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torch, when you are going to lay into our best player for not fronting up for big games, you might want to front up yourself when the going gets tough champ. :shh
No doubt you'll have your finger on the pulse the second the siren goes on his next quiet one.
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Let us see how he goes against top eight teams first.
Essendon and West Coast will tell. Hope he plays great!
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We know how it did go. He had no impact tagging and he isn't the player we can afford to have no impact.
You can speculate, but at the end of the day, Deledio is one of the best all round players in the AFL. Took forever to get a midfield spot. Then it was given up to a spud the moment the opposition called tag. Coach has zero confidence in him. Its a team game. Teammates should be blocking. Coach should be backing him in,
Taylor Hunt says hi and he's not half the tagger that Crowley is.
Dimma made the right call against Freo
whispers in Geelong are Taylor Hunt was a mad tigers fan and want to wear lit bumper next year
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Fair goal to start off the game :shh
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Lids shut up a few of his critics last night. Not only killed it offensively with the ball (25 poss, 84% eff., 7 clearances, 6 in50s, 2 goal assists) and broke away from his tag with his run but just as importantly for the team's sake he hunted as well (racking up 6 tackles). On ya Lids - great game! :thumbsup
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Agreed MT, he was simply sensational last night. :thumbsup
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Lids shut up a few of his critics last night. Not only killed it offensively with the ball (25 poss, 84% eff., 7 clearances, 6 in50s, 2 goal assists) and broke away from his tag with his run but just as importantly for the team's sake he hunted as well (racking up 6 tackles). On ya Lids - great game! :thumbsup
Totally agree
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Lids shut up a few of his critics last night. Not only killed it offensively with the ball (25 poss, 84% eff., 7 clearances, 6 in50s, 2 goal assists) and broke away from his tag with his run but just as importantly for the team's sake he hunted as well (racking up 6 tackles). On ya Lids - great game! :thumbsup
Yep, some are surprisingly silent this morning :rollin
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Id go as far as to say a gun backman is more important than a midfielder. I dont like American terms but the 'quarterback' is vital.
With the like of Vlastuin, Ellis, Conca, Foley etc. we dont really need him in the middle.
Luke Hodges game in the winning grand final was one of the best Ive seen. Lids 8)
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Best game of the year
better competetion, better tagger than in other games and he nailed it.
hope he continues it against Adelaide
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Love Deledio but find it funny some state you must judge from more than one game but are doing the complete opposite here
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Lids is in the top 10 of the official AFL 2013 player ratings ...
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-06/douglas-on-ablettlike-pace-in-player-ratings
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Cyril overtook Pendles despite not playing. :lol
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Re: Brett Deledio (merged)
« Reply #6165 on: June 07, 2013, 05:57:09 PM »
Quote from: 23.21.159 on June 07, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
Just out of curiosity, what is top-4 based on? At the time of each game or where the opposition finished at the end of that season?
Top four at end of h&a season.
Quote from: Leysy Days on June 07, 2013, 05:09:27 PM
The mans a geek, sorry freak!
LTRTR any chance of the same thing over say the past 3 or so years. Lot of those guys may have numbers skewed by early career when starting out.
Note all these figures are to the end of 2012, since 2013 ladder positions obviously aren't known yet.
2010-2012:
Player All 5-18 1-4 %Diff
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Swallow, Andrew 24.2 25.5 20.0 -21.5
Beams, Dayne 24.9 26.4 20.9 -20.8
Anthony, Liam 22.5 23.4 19.4 -16.9
Murphy, Marc 27.1 28.1 23.9 -14.9
Chapman, Paul 24.2 25.1 22.1 -11.8
Harvey, Brent 23.3 23.8 21.3 -10.5
Simpson, Kade 22.7 23.3 21.2 -9.0
Enright, Corey 22.6 23.2 21.1 -8.9
Goddard, Brendon 25.7 26.3 24.3 -7.7
Swan, Dane 32.5 33.1 30.8 -7.0
McVeigh, Jarrad 22.6 23.0 21.5 -6.6
Judd, Chris 26.2 26.6 25.1 -5.5
Stanton, Brent 24.5 24.8 23.7 -4.6
Montagna, Leigh 25.6 25.9 24.9 -3.9
Cooney, Adam 23.2 23.4 22.5 -3.8
Watson, Jobe 27.6 27.9 26.9 -3.5
Pendlebury, Scott 28.5 28.8 27.8 -3.4
Bartel, Jimmy 23.2 23.4 22.8 -2.5
Hodge, Luke 23.5 23.7 23.1 -2.5
Corey, Joel 23.4 23.5 23.0 -2.2
Selwood, Joel 26.7 26.9 26.3 -2.1
Cross, Daniel 25.0 25.1 24.6 -2.1
Thomas, Dale 23.6 23.8 23.3 -1.9
Kelly, James 24.3 24.4 24.1 -1.4
Mitchell, Sam 28.5 28.5 28.3 -0.8
Boyd, Matthew 31.6 31.6 31.6 +0.1
Rockliff, Tom 25.0 25.0 25.0 +0.2
O'Keefe, Ryan 22.8 22.8 22.9 +0.3
Carrazzo, Andrew 23.4 23.4 23.6 +1.0
Boak, Travis 22.6 22.6 22.8 +1.0
Grigg, Shaun 23.4 23.4 23.7 +1.2
Mundy, David 22.8 22.7 23.2 +1.8
Thompson, Scott 28.6 28.5 29.1 +2.1
Black, Simon 25.4 25.4 25.9 +2.2
Dal Santo, Nick 25.3 25.2 25.7 +2.3
Cornes, Kane 25.2 25.0 25.7 +2.6
Priddis, Matt 26.1 25.9 26.6 +2.6
Barlow, Michael 25.3 25.0 25.9 +3.7
Hayes, Lenny 25.9 25.6 26.6 +3.8
Scotland, Heath 25.4 25.1 26.4 +4.9
Deledio, Brett 26.1 25.8 27.4 +6.1
Cotchin, Trent 24.0 23.8 25.4 +6.7
Sewell, Brad 23.3 22.8 24.5 +7.2
Griffen, Ryan 24.9 24.3 26.5 +8.9
Gibbs, Bryce 23.4 22.9 24.9 +9.0
Kennedy, Josh P. 23.5 22.8 25.5 +11.6
Greene, Toby 28.4 27.3 31.4 +15.1
Ablett junior, Gary 31.8 30.5 35.6 +16.7
Tuck, Shane 24.6 23.6 28.8 +21.8
Kerr, Daniel 23.3 21.9 27.3 +24.3
http://puntroadend.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=23120.6165
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Deledio, Brett 26.1 25.8 27.4 +6.1
You need to say sorry Torch.
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Might have afew dollars on Brett for the Brownlow. Another 3 voter today.
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Another great game, starting to gap them in the B&F now
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Yep, Lids is a great half-back flanker.
:cheers
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Yep, Lids is a great half-back flanker.
:cheers
HBF'r and pinch-hit mid I reckon.
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:shh
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Lids doesn't pinch hit...he more often than not dominates
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Love him running of half back in space, what a wonderful sight it is!!!!! :gotigers :clapping :clapping :cheers
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Lids doesn't pinch hit...he more often than not dominates
Description: "Pinch hitters are often used to replace a starting player when the pinch hitter is thought to have a better chance of reaching base or helping other runners to score"......a la.....let him play predominately on the HBF and use him as a mid judiciously when we are being beaten or to bolster rotations...........sheesh......he can 'dominate' to his hearts content.
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Off half back he is sensational.
His 2007-09 in a poor side off half back was great.
The more quality mids and soldiers we have blokes like Lids become a luxury to have. :thumbsup
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Lids is up to 7th now in the AFL Coaches' Award .....
Round 12 Leaderboard
73 Gary Ablett (GC)
54 Daniel Hannebery (Syd)
50 Patrick Dangerfield (Adel)
50 Kieren Jack (Syd)
46 Scott Pendlebury (Coll)
46 Jobe Watson (Ess)
39 Brett Deledio (Rich)
38 Travis Boak (Port)
36 Jarrad McVeigh (Syd)
35 Rory Sloane (Adel)
http://aflca.com.au/
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Solid effort. :clapping
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LMAO look at Gablett, what a freak
can't believe the Watson-Ablett discussions :ROTFL
zombie dong eating essendong followers crack me up
people will look back and wonder HTF anyone won a Brownlow while GAJ was playing, shows the umps have NFI
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LMAO look at Gablett, what a freak
can't believe the Watson-Ablett discussions :ROTFL
zombie dong eating essendong followers crack me up
people will look back and wonder HTF anyone won a Brownlow while GAJ was playing, shows the umps have NFI
:clapping
The best player in the comp by a mile
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yeah gotta hand it to the chrome domed freak
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Outright #2 player in the game after GABlett... big back half of the season comming up for Lids :shh
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Picken will tear lids a new one this week, always does ::)
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And no doubt torch will be here to tell us the minute the final siren goes...
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And no doubt torch will be here to tell us the minute the final siren goes...
lol! nahhh, the North Melbourne match ... hopefully not ... but i'll be ready :)
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Picken will tear lids a new one this week, always does ::)
Might get dropped
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We will win irrespective anyway, I prefer Lids has a massive game against Norf or Freo.
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We will win irrespective anyway, I prefer Lids has a massive game against Norf or Freo.
(http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=why+not+both%3f&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=E38A6B8FD9819CF670E529602359A90DFB194707&selectedIndex=1)
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Dear Brett,
Get a clue mate, get some videos of Dane Swan, Gary Ablett and Jobe Watson and study them.
Learn how to shake a tag, for fudge sake mate.
Going to waste 10 years of amazing talent if you can't harden up and shake a tag.
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You can imagine that he could be stopped by a tagger once in a while. But it seems as though virtually every time he is tagged he is beaten. Mystifying for someone with so much skill......similar to Murphy from Carlton.
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Its called gut running a mental toughness, unfortunately both traits are Lids achilles heel. For a so called elite athlete he struggles compared to the Swans, Abletts and Selwoods. It almost looks like once tagged he sulks and cant be bothered doing anything about it.
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You can imagine that he could be stopped by a tagger once in a while. But it seems as though virtually every time he is tagged he is beaten. Mystifying for someone with so much skill......similar to Murphy from Carlton.
Abblett & Watson or Swan have huge engines and they're are very very strong.
They just run & run & run and tough their way to 30 possies no matter how hard they're tagged.
Lids is an excellent talent but obviously not fit enough to run a tagger ragged and not strong enough to out bully him. Until he addresses this he'll always struggle and so will Cotch.
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Tigra might be better to leave Jobe out of that bunch...his engine might be alien designed..lol
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You can imagine that he could be stopped by a tagger once in a while. But it seems as though virtually every time he is tagged he is beaten. Mystifying for someone with so much skill......similar to Murphy from Carlton.
Yep spot on. In all honesty I cannot recall 1 single game in his career where he was able to beat a tagger.
In one game he went head to head with Goddard and beat him. Other than that he's never been able to beat a tagger.
I argue its the biggest issue at the club. If you can turn Deledio into an Ablett, Swan, Watson type player who is untaggable and can gaurentee a 25+ possesion game every week, we go from mid table to top 6. We don't win games when Brett isn't influencing. Need to rectify this very soon if we are fair dinkum.
Should be smashing him each training session with 2 taggers until he starts beating them on game day
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I ask where are his teammates to help him out more???
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You can imagine that he could be stopped by a tagger once in a while. But it seems as though virtually every time he is tagged he is beaten. Mystifying for someone with so much skill......similar to Murphy from Carlton.
Abblett & Watson or Swan have huge engines and they're are very very strong.
They just run & run & run and tough their way to 30 possies no matter how hard they're tagged.
Lids is an excellent talent but obviously not fit enough to run a tagger ragged and not strong enough to out bully him. Until he addresses this he'll always struggle and so will Cotch.
Sorry I disagree. Swan, Ablett and Watson consistantly get high possession numbers in 1st qtrs where fitness isn't a key factor. Lids has a greater top speed than any of these so you'd expect him to be able to burn off a tagger easily. Aeorbic fitness should only really effect a tagger in 3rd and 4th qtrs. Lids can get tagged out of a game completely in the first half. Ablett, Swan and Watson never do. I couldn't imagine Watsons engine is much bigger than Lids who looks as fit as a Roman soldier.
Its more the contested situations where he can't get his hands on it. Lids is quicker off the mark than all those 3 so his uncontested possessions shouldn't be effected if he has a tagger, cause you'd back him to burn off an opponent.
He's not getting in the right areas, he's not getting help from team mates and generally looks completely uneducated and lost when there is a opponent between him and the ball.
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Deledio blanketed by Hine
Brett Deledio's importance to Richmond is underlined by the fact he entered Saturday's game as the top-ranked Tiger in the Official AFL Player Ratings, at No. 17 overall. North assigned Taylor Hine to Deledio and the former Gold Coast Sun showed why the Roos pursued him so keenly in last year's trade period before snaring him in the national draft. The type of hardnosed run-with player the Roos have lacked at times in recent seasons, Hine gave Deledio barely a moment's peace in the Roos' 62-point win. Apart from a short time in the third quarter when Deledio went forward, Hine stopped him from having any real influence, restricting him to just 16 possessions.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-06/five-talking-points-north-melbourne-v-richmond
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Deledio is as fit as any, it's more that he is complacent, one dimensional and at times a downhill skier.
All the talent an ATHLETE can want but no aggression, especially if he;s being tagged by a guy full of it.
More willing to accept it, probably justifying it by thinking that it's not true football.
poo attitude when the going is tough more often than not
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He'll never be able to play whilst being tagged.
That's why the club places so much emphasis on our perceived midfield depth.
The old "Its great having all these good midfielders.If "x" is having a bad day, then "d and e" step up, is a crock of skata.
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Deledio blanketed by Hine
Brett Deledio's importance to Richmond is underlined by the fact he entered Saturday's game as the top-ranked Tiger in the Official AFL Player Ratings, at No. 17 overall. North assigned Taylor Hine to Deledio and the former Gold Coast Sun showed why the Roos pursued him so keenly in last year's trade period before snaring him in the national draft. The type of hardnosed run-with player the Roos have lacked at times in recent seasons, Hine gave Deledio barely a moment's peace in the Roos' 62-point win. Apart from a short time in the third quarter when Deledio went forward, Hine stopped him from having any real influence, restricting him to just 16 possessions.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-06/five-talking-points-north-melbourne-v-richmond
Who the stuff is Hine.
Seriously, Brett stuff me. You're a superstar of the competetion. Does this not embarrass you to have your pants pulled down week in week out when someone is minding you. Anyone can dominate a game when you are free off half back and Western Bulldogs moron in the coaches box leaves you free without a man. Bloody hell.
Need to beat the leaving poo out of Brett for the next 2-3 years at every single training session to get some bloody mungrel in him so when some dribbler comes to him on a Saturday afternoon he's able to beat them without looking like a deer in the headlights because all of a sudden he has an opponent.
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Deledio is as fit as any, it's more that he is complacent, one dimensional and at times a downhill skier.
All the talent an ATHLETE can want but no aggression, especially if he;s being tagged by a guy full of it.
More willing to accept it, probably justifying it by thinking that it's not true football.
poo attitude when the going is tough more often than not
Here here
None more so evident when he teared up on the Sunday footy show when nafe said he was worst on ground
Lazy downhill skier when a hard tag is placed on him
He is our nikky dal
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Deledio is as fit as any, it's more that he is complacent, one dimensional and at times a downhill skier.
All the talent an ATHLETE can want but no aggression, especially if he;s being tagged by a guy full of it.
More willing to accept it, probably justifying it by thinking that it's not true football.
poo attitude when the going is tough more often than not
Here here
None more so evident when he teared up on the Sunday footy show when nafe said he was worst on ground
Lazy downhill skier when a hard tag is placed on him
He is our nikky dal
100% spot on. My best mate is St.Kilda and if Richmond aren't winning I don't mind seeing Saints beat up on Essendon, Carlton and the like. Nick Dal Santo and Deledio are consistently mentioned in the same sentence. I'd have Lids over Dal any day for the fact that he's more a rounded player and quicker. But he has the same softness that doesn't allow him to shake a tag.
I did see him try a few different things, moving him out of the middle and onto the wing so he's able to run off the tagger into the middle, but that didn't work. Then moving him forward may have worked if we weren't playing like a busted hole.
I accept best players can be tagged from time to time. But Lids gets shut down completely 95% of the time, if not 100%, and not only to the best taggers in Crowley and Cornes etc. but to dribblers like Nick Lower, Taylor Hunt (Mitchell tore him apart tonight) and a stuffing Gold Coast reject Hine. I mean come on, its taking the pee now.
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and it's not as if it's a secret to rival clubs.
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Fellas, he's been in the system for 10 years so its unlikely to change dramatically.
We need to set him up to win - if he gets tagged, put him somewhere on the ground where he can hurt his tagger - ie Full Forward. He's a good height and a great one on one mark.
I'd take 16 possies and 3 or 4 goals.
He has also done a good job tagging in the past - why not put him on a Swallow or a Ziebell or a Boomer?
The coach needs to plan B for rotations through the midfield when Lids goes missing as an offensive midfielder.
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Some good thoughts here
So if the opposition see him as the key play maker and tag him heavily let's change it up. I like the idea of play him up forward, let's start him up at FF one game say against dockers. Force cowley to play in the backline, rotate dusty, catch through the same spot
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Fellas, he's been in the system for 10 years so its unlikely to change dramatically.
We need to set him up to win - if he gets tagged, put him somewhere on the ground where he can hurt his tagger - ie Full Forward. He's a good height and a great one on one mark.
I'd take 16 possies and 3 or 4 goals.
He has also done a good job tagging in the past - why not put him on a Swallow or a Ziebell or a Boomer?
The coach needs to plan B for rotations through the midfield when Lids goes missing as an offensive midfielder.
Agreed he has been in the system 10 odd years and some how I don't think he will ever turn this around. There's no chance he is going to start being more aggressive now. He is what he is- and that is someone who plays well against poo teams and is pathetic against anyone good.
And moving him to FF or across half back or wherever plays into the hands of the opposition just as much as anything else. He is like others have stated a downhill skier.
Now I know he just signed a 5 year deal but I would trade him for pick 1 this year. I know it sounds drastic after a bad lose but it's not just one game it's his whole career. Yesterday he should have stood up and dragged his teammates up but instead he got completely dominated by a virtual known kid.
We play this guy 500K a year to beat up on weaklings. And it's for the next five years.
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he gets tagged at least 20 games a yr but its only when he gets beaten u all sook
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The stats say Deledio plays better vs. top 4 clubs.
big tone - NFI
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Fellas, he's been in the system for 10 years so its unlikely to change dramatically.
We need to set him up to win - if he gets tagged, put him somewhere on the ground where he can hurt his tagger - ie Full Forward. He's a good height and a great one on one mark.
I'd take 16 possies and 3 or 4 goals.
He has also done a good job tagging in the past - why not put him on a Swallow or a Ziebell or a Boomer?
The coach needs to plan B for rotations through the midfield when Lids goes missing as an offensive midfielder.
plays well against poo teams and is pathetic against anyone good.
That's brilliant. Obviously we can't go forward with blokes who don't perform against "anyone good". So I think we have a solution boys......Delist Deledio!!! Or trade him to Port Adelaide for Matt Thomas.
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Fellas, he's been in the system for 10 years so its unlikely to change dramatically.
We need to set him up to win - if he gets tagged, put him somewhere on the ground where he can hurt his tagger - ie Full Forward. He's a good height and a great one on one mark.
I'd take 16 possies and 3 or 4 goals.
He has also done a good job tagging in the past - why not put him on a Swallow or a Ziebell or a Boomer?
The coach needs to plan B for rotations through the midfield when Lids goes missing as an offensive midfielder.
Agreed he has been in the system 10 odd years and some how I don't think he will ever turn this around. There's no chance he is going to start being more aggressive now. He is what he is- and that is someone who plays well against poo teams and is pathetic against anyone good.
And moving him to FF or across half back or wherever plays into the hands of the opposition just as much as anything else. He is like others have stated a downhill skier.
Now I know he just signed a 5 year deal but I would trade him for pick 1 this year. I know it sounds drastic after a bad lose but it's not just one game it's his whole career. Yesterday he should have stood up and dragged his teammates up but instead he got completely dominated by a virtual known kid.
We play this guy 500K a year to beat up on weaklings. And it's for the next five years.
It's now 3.5 years but I digress. This post is too funny thinking he only beats up on weaklings. You obviously don't think he has played good footy in the last 18 months let alone throughout his career but please don't backtrack when you read this I can only laugh this hard once a day. :ROTFL
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That's brilliant. Obviously we can't go forward with blokes who don't perform against "anyone good". So I think we have a solution boys......Delist Deledio!!! Or trade him to Port Adelaide for Matt Thomas.
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While we are at it bring back Adam Thompson too given his ratio for clearances to time spent on the ground is in the top echelon of players in the AFL. :lol :rollin :lol
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:lol
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Just put it on fox and watch Crowley tear niccy dal a new one as that's what's in store for us in a few weeks when we play them.
By the way pope he beat Cornes earlier this year hands down.
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The stats say Deledio plays better vs. top 4 clubs.
big tone - NFI
Want to show me these stats?
Let me guess, you cannot be bothered??
Bentleigh-esque= NFI
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Getting rid of our best player is the answer?
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Fellas, he's been in the system for 10 years so its unlikely to change dramatically.
We need to set him up to win - if he gets tagged, put him somewhere on the ground where he can hurt his tagger - ie Full Forward. He's a good height and a great one on one mark.
I'd take 16 possies and 3 or 4 goals.
He has also done a good job tagging in the past - why not put him on a Swallow or a Ziebell or a Boomer?
The coach needs to plan B for rotations through the midfield when Lids goes missing as an offensive midfielder.
plays well against poo teams and is pathetic against anyone good.
That's brilliant. Obviously we can't go forward with blokes who don't perform against "anyone good". So I think we have a solution boys......Delist Deledio!!! Or trade him to Port Adelaide for Matt Thomas.
Classic Coach. Another attempt of being funny I'm hoping? Hilarious stuff..... again.....
Coach is the comedy on Richmond Rant. I love your wit. I bet you have your family and friends in stitches most of the time. You sound like you would be the life of the party! Funny, funny stuff. :lol
Don't you barick for Port Power??
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Getting rid of our best player is the answer?
No stats big mouth?
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Getting rid of our best player is the answer?
Of course he's a downhill skier Bents.
Whilst we are at it lets get rid of Dusty also for not playing out a full four quarters.
Cotch has been on one knee for most of the season he's a 1 season wonder and Jack had a shocker and despite the fact he's a two time Coleman winner he has won it with 78 and 65 goals so it does not count.
Lets board up the club and start again Bents. :lol :rollin :lol
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Getting rid of our best player is the answer?
No stats big mouth?
2010-2012:
Player All 5-18 1-4 %Diff
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Swallow, Andrew 24.2 25.5 20.0 -21.5
Beams, Dayne 24.9 26.4 20.9 -20.8
Anthony, Liam 22.5 23.4 19.4 -16.9
Murphy, Marc 27.1 28.1 23.9 -14.9
Chapman, Paul 24.2 25.1 22.1 -11.8
Harvey, Brent 23.3 23.8 21.3 -10.5
Simpson, Kade 22.7 23.3 21.2 -9.0
Enright, Corey 22.6 23.2 21.1 -8.9
Goddard, Brendon 25.7 26.3 24.3 -7.7
Swan, Dane 32.5 33.1 30.8 -7.0
McVeigh, Jarrad 22.6 23.0 21.5 -6.6
Judd, Chris 26.2 26.6 25.1 -5.5
Stanton, Brent 24.5 24.8 23.7 -4.6
Montagna, Leigh 25.6 25.9 24.9 -3.9
Cooney, Adam 23.2 23.4 22.5 -3.8
Watson, Jobe 27.6 27.9 26.9 -3.5
Pendlebury, Scott 28.5 28.8 27.8 -3.4
Bartel, Jimmy 23.2 23.4 22.8 -2.5
Hodge, Luke 23.5 23.7 23.1 -2.5
Corey, Joel 23.4 23.5 23.0 -2.2
Selwood, Joel 26.7 26.9 26.3 -2.1
Cross, Daniel 25.0 25.1 24.6 -2.1
Thomas, Dale 23.6 23.8 23.3 -1.9
Kelly, James 24.3 24.4 24.1 -1.4
Mitchell, Sam 28.5 28.5 28.3 -0.8
Boyd, Matthew 31.6 31.6 31.6 +0.1
Rockliff, Tom 25.0 25.0 25.0 +0.2
O'Keefe, Ryan 22.8 22.8 22.9 +0.3
Carrazzo, Andrew 23.4 23.4 23.6 +1.0
Boak, Travis 22.6 22.6 22.8 +1.0
Grigg, Shaun 23.4 23.4 23.7 +1.2
Mundy, David 22.8 22.7 23.2 +1.8
Thompson, Scott 28.6 28.5 29.1 +2.1
Black, Simon 25.4 25.4 25.9 +2.2
Dal Santo, Nick 25.3 25.2 25.7 +2.3
Cornes, Kane 25.2 25.0 25.7 +2.6
Priddis, Matt 26.1 25.9 26.6 +2.6
Barlow, Michael 25.3 25.0 25.9 +3.7
Hayes, Lenny 25.9 25.6 26.6 +3.8
Scotland, Heath 25.4 25.1 26.4 +4.9
Deledio, Brett 26.1 25.8 27.4 +6.1
Cotchin, Trent 24.0 23.8 25.4 +6.7
Sewell, Brad 23.3 22.8 24.5 +7.2
Griffen, Ryan 24.9 24.3 26.5 +8.9
Gibbs, Bryce 23.4 22.9 24.9 +9.0
Kennedy, Josh P. 23.5 22.8 25.5 +11.6
Greene, Toby 28.4 27.3 31.4 +15.1
Ablett junior, Gary 31.8 30.5 35.6 +16.7
Tuck, Shane 24.6 23.6 28.8 +21.8
Kerr, Daniel 23.3 21.9 27.3 +24.3
Deledio, Brett 26.1 25.8 27.4 +6.1
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Fellas, he's been in the system for 10 years so its unlikely to change dramatically.
We need to set him up to win - if he gets tagged, put him somewhere on the ground where he can hurt his tagger - ie Full Forward. He's a good height and a great one on one mark.
I'd take 16 possies and 3 or 4 goals.
He has also done a good job tagging in the past - why not put him on a Swallow or a Ziebell or a Boomer?
The coach needs to plan B for rotations through the midfield when Lids goes missing as an offensive midfielder.
Agreed he has been in the system 10 odd years and some how I don't think he will ever turn this around. There's no chance he is going to start being more aggressive now. He is what he is- and that is someone who plays well against poo teams and is pathetic against anyone good.
And moving him to FF or across half back or wherever plays into the hands of the opposition just as much as anything else. He is like others have stated a downhill skier.
Now I know he just signed a 5 year deal but I would trade him for pick 1 this year. I know it sounds drastic after a bad lose but it's not just one game it's his whole career. Yesterday he should have stood up and dragged his teammates up but instead he got completely dominated by a virtual known kid.
We play this guy 500K a year to beat up on weaklings. And it's for the next five years.
It's now 3.5 years but I digress. This post is too funny thinking he only beats up on weaklings. You obviously don't think he has played good footy in the last 18 months let alone throughout his career but please don't backtrack when you read this I can only laugh this hard once a day. :ROTFL
That's brilliant. Obviously we can't go forward with blokes who don't perform against "anyone good". So I think we have a solution boys......Delist Deledio!!! Or trade him to Port Adelaide for Matt Thomas.
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While we are at it bring back Adam Thompson too given his ratio for clearances to time spent on the ground is in the top echelon of players in the AFL. :lol :rollin :lol
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It's 4.5 years but I digress. Might be worth checking before contradicting people, it only make you look stupid!
Not sure how you get I don't think he has played well over the last 18 months, he has played well, but most of the time it's been against the bottom half of the ladder teams.
I like Lids but the reality is he doesn't 'stand up' enough against the better sides. He consistently gets beaten in the big games. And so do we.
I'm glad you enjoyed your laugh today, :thumbsup but I'm sure 'Coach' makes you laugh continually with his humor. He is a funny man
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Deledio, Brett 26.1 25.8 27.4 +6.1
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Got the arithmetic wrong but anyway at least I'm man enough to admit error unlike others but I digress.
Of course Coach makes me laugh. Just like a lot of other posters for different reasons. :thumbsup
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Deledio, Brett 26.1 25.8 27.4 +6.1
Just so everyone is clear Bents those stats are saying the Lids is better against the top sides?
Unfortunately Big Tone is god and his opinion over rules stats
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Re: Brett Deledio (merged)
« Reply #6165 on: June 07, 2013, 05:57:09 PM »
Quote from: 23.21.159 on June 07, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
Just out of curiosity, what is top-4 based on? At the time of each game or where the opposition finished at the end of that season?
Top four at end of h&a season.
Quote from: Leysy Days on June 07, 2013, 05:09:27 PM
The mans a geek, sorry freak!
LTRTR any chance of the same thing over say the past 3 or so years. Lot of those guys may have numbers skewed by early career when starting out.
Note all these figures are to the end of 2012, since 2013 ladder positions obviously aren't known yet.
2010-2012:
Player All 5-18 1-4 %Diff
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Swallow, Andrew 24.2 25.5 20.0 -21.5
Beams, Dayne 24.9 26.4 20.9 -20.8
Anthony, Liam 22.5 23.4 19.4 -16.9
Murphy, Marc 27.1 28.1 23.9 -14.9
Chapman, Paul 24.2 25.1 22.1 -11.8
Harvey, Brent 23.3 23.8 21.3 -10.5
Simpson, Kade 22.7 23.3 21.2 -9.0
Enright, Corey 22.6 23.2 21.1 -8.9
Goddard, Brendon 25.7 26.3 24.3 -7.7
Swan, Dane 32.5 33.1 30.8 -7.0
McVeigh, Jarrad 22.6 23.0 21.5 -6.6
Judd, Chris 26.2 26.6 25.1 -5.5
Stanton, Brent 24.5 24.8 23.7 -4.6
Montagna, Leigh 25.6 25.9 24.9 -3.9
Cooney, Adam 23.2 23.4 22.5 -3.8
Watson, Jobe 27.6 27.9 26.9 -3.5
Pendlebury, Scott 28.5 28.8 27.8 -3.4
Bartel, Jimmy 23.2 23.4 22.8 -2.5
Hodge, Luke 23.5 23.7 23.1 -2.5
Corey, Joel 23.4 23.5 23.0 -2.2
Selwood, Joel 26.7 26.9 26.3 -2.1
Cross, Daniel 25.0 25.1 24.6 -2.1
Thomas, Dale 23.6 23.8 23.3 -1.9
Kelly, James 24.3 24.4 24.1 -1.4
Mitchell, Sam 28.5 28.5 28.3 -0.8
Boyd, Matthew 31.6 31.6 31.6 +0.1
Rockliff, Tom 25.0 25.0 25.0 +0.2
O'Keefe, Ryan 22.8 22.8 22.9 +0.3
Carrazzo, Andrew 23.4 23.4 23.6 +1.0
Boak, Travis 22.6 22.6 22.8 +1.0
Grigg, Shaun 23.4 23.4 23.7 +1.2
Mundy, David 22.8 22.7 23.2 +1.8
Thompson, Scott 28.6 28.5 29.1 +2.1
Black, Simon 25.4 25.4 25.9 +2.2
Dal Santo, Nick 25.3 25.2 25.7 +2.3
Cornes, Kane 25.2 25.0 25.7 +2.6
Priddis, Matt 26.1 25.9 26.6 +2.6
Barlow, Michael 25.3 25.0 25.9 +3.7
Hayes, Lenny 25.9 25.6 26.6 +3.8
Scotland, Heath 25.4 25.1 26.4 +4.9
Deledio, Brett 26.1 25.8 27.4 +6.1
Cotchin, Trent 24.0 23.8 25.4 +6.7
Sewell, Brad 23.3 22.8 24.5 +7.2
Griffen, Ryan 24.9 24.3 26.5 +8.9
Gibbs, Bryce 23.4 22.9 24.9 +9.0
Kennedy, Josh P. 23.5 22.8 25.5 +11.6
Greene, Toby 28.4 27.3 31.4 +15.1
Ablett junior, Gary 31.8 30.5 35.6 +16.7
Tuck, Shane 24.6 23.6 28.8 +21.8
Kerr, Daniel 23.3 21.9 27.3 +24.3
http://puntroadend.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=23120.6165
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Deledio, Brett 26.1 25.8 27.4 +6.1
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Hardwick backs Deledio
By richmondfc.com.au
Monday, July 8, 2013
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has defended star midfielder Brett Deledio, following criticism arising from his performance against North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium last Saturday.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-07-08/hardwick-backs-deledio-
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Troy Chaplin and Rancer should share vice captain duties because Deledio isn't up to it. Pathetic against good sides. Unlike Chaplin
Chaplin calls the shots we really love him lots
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:lol
how many times did chaplin attempt to spoil but only prevent his teammate from killing the ball on the weekend?
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:lol
how many times did chaplin attempt to spoil but only prevent his teammate from killing the ball on the weekend?
Lost count brother.
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Pee poor excuse making from Dimma.
Seriously hope that comment is a front cause he was poo and had his pants pulled down by a stuffing minion
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Lids is averaging 477.5 metres gained per game which is the best at Richmond ...
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-12/the-metre-men
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Vs Fremantle and the best tagger in the game.
Certainty to go to Lids.
I'd play Lids from the square all game. Won't get a touch on Crawley.
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Deledio is just terrible. Never gets a kick against a good side. Could even say he's pathetic ;D
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Vs Fremantle and the best tagger in the game.
Certainty to go to Lids.
I'd play Lids from the square all game. Won't get a touch on Crawley.
I was thinking the same thing myself today Pope.
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Nah let's just send him to Mundy and let the best turnover merchant not get the ball ::)
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Deconstructing Deledio
Matthew Lloyd
The Age
July 21, 2013
Brett Deledio is the Richmond Football Club's best and most important player. So much so, that Fremantle's No.1 tagger Ryan Crowley wouldn't have even had to ask Ross Lyon who he wants him to put the clamps on at the MCG on Sunday.
Deledio would have gone to bed on Saturday night thinking of Crowley and awakened thinking about him. The Freo man is one of the most aggressive taggers the game has seen. He gets inside players heads before they have even run down the race. Deledio is a very good player but I don't class him as a great player due to his indifferent form when under severe heat from the opposition's best negating player.
Sunday is a huge test.
Richmond hasn't been in such a strong position for well over a decade and, North Melbourne aside, it has beaten all the teams below it - as a finals contender should. The knock on the Tigers is that they are yet to beat a side in the top six and face their bogey side here - Fremantle beat them twice last year because of the way Ross Lyon coaches his teams to play.
The Tigers then meet Sydney and Hawthorn and they need to take at least one scalp out of these three games to justify the improvement that everyone thinks they have made this season.
Make no mistake, Deledio is the barometer for Richmond - the best players usually are but his statistics bear a stark difference in the Tigers' 10 wins compared to their five losses.
When I close my eyes and picture Deledio at his dynamic best, I see him starting his run from the wing, taking three bounces and kicking a goal from 50 metres.
In the Richmond wins, he has had 18 scoring shots for a return of 9.9 and driven the ball inside 50 at an average of six times a game.
In Richmond's five losses, Deledio is yet to kick a goal and his inside-50 entries have been halved from six to three. Deledio's possession rate also drops from 26 to 20 and it is the ability of the better teams to stop his uncontested ball that has most hurt his effectiveness.
Crowley in round five, Taylor Hunt in round six, Heath Hocking in round nine and Taylor Hine in round 15, were all able to stop Deledio from influencing the game with his outside run and carry, which coincided with Tigers losses - and his MCG battle with Crowley will have a huge bearing on the outcome of the game.
I can already see it unfolding: Deledio will start at the back of the square at the first bounce, with coach Damien Hardwick looking to use his run and creativity to hurt the Dockers but knowing full well that Crowley will be running straight to him and going everywhere with him. I love watching the best players in our game prosper under severe heat as Joel Selwood, Chris Judd, Gary Ablett and Scott Pendlebury do, week in and week out, and I also saw Deledio carve up Kane Cornes of Port Adelaide in round seven, which forced Ken Hinkley to move Cornes off him by half-time.
Deledio was at his explosive best that day with dashing runs through the middle of AAMI Stadium combined with strong contested work on the inside, racking up 13 contested possessions and 18 uncontested possessions. It was the perfect game.
I was watching him closely against North Melbourne's Hine two weeks ago and, like most of his teammates, the Tiger had a day he would like to forget but I felt that he didn't throw anything at Hine to change the direction of his performance.
I was looking for him to get aggressive with Hine at stoppages or waiting for him to go on a gut-busting run to make the inexperienced Roo crumple in a heap but I felt that Deledio just accepted his lot.
Deledio went to the goal square late in that game but he has to do it earlier on Sunday and use his explosiveness on the lead and his marking ability to take Crowley out of his comfort zone.
I hope he has watched a tape of the first half between Sydney and Fremantle in round eight. Crowley went to Daniel Hannebery at the opening bounce and started bumping into him as Crowley does.
Hannebery dealt with that by taking Crowley on aggressive runs from the first bounce and was on the wing one minute, in the centre bounce the next and whenever he could, would charge forward to get Crowley having to defend on the last line of defence, which Crowley struggled with.
The end result was that Hannebery had kicked four goals before half-time, Crowley had stopped his niggling tactics and Lyon was looking for a new match-up for Hannebery.
Hardwick has to support Deledio by allowing him space inside forward 50 as he should be too strong for Crowley in the air. I cannot wait to see how that battle unfolds and if Deledio takes the points, it's a feather in his cap and will more than likely see Richmond win the game. Deledio must steel himself for the battle and fight fire with fire in his attack on the ball and by never letting Crowley intimidate him.
That battle will be a game within the game.
The last time Richmond and Fremantle met at the MCG was round eleven last year when Fremantle just suffocated the Tigers, laying over 100 tackles in the wet. Lyon was also able to manufacture countless one-on-one marking contests for Matthew Pavlich, who went on to kick six goals while the Richmond forwards were surrounded by a sea of purple every time they went inside 50.
Pavlich won't be there but a Lyon-led Fremantle will be and if there is any doubt about the Tigers being the real deal in 2013, things will be much clearer by 4.30 in the afternoon.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/deconstructing-deledio-20130720-2qbam.html#ixzz2ZbY3MWaY
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:clapping
Challenge accepted :shh
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There's a very simple solution to this: have Arnott line up Crowley in the centre square at the first bounce, and run through Crowley like a Mack truck ala Yeats on Dermott in the 89 Grand Final. Aim low and break his ribs, or puncture his spleen, that way there's no chance of being pinged for a head high tackle. If Arnott misses on the first attempt, repeat action until successful. Then spit on him as he is stretchered, twitching from the ground.
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ground control to Matty Arnot, first chance you get, stay low, feet on ground, split Crowley down the middle :shh
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There's a very simple solution to this: have Arnott line up Crowley in the centre square at the first bounce, and run through Crowley like a Mack truck ala Yeats on Dermott in the 89 Grand Final. Aim low and break his ribs, or puncture his spleen, that way there's no chance of being pinged for a head high tackle. If Arnott misses on the first attempt, repeat action until successful. Then spit on him as he is stretchered, twitching from the ground.
:lol :rollin
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a moment after the first bounce....
(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab353/esp_eraser/lids1.jpg) (http://s879.photobucket.com/user/esp_eraser/media/lids1.jpg.html)
moments after, Arnott arrives:
(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab353/esp_eraser/lids2.jpg) (http://s879.photobucket.com/user/esp_eraser/media/lids2.jpg.html)
Moments After arnott completes first mission: bye bye Cowley :'(
(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab353/esp_eraser/lid3.jpg) (http://s879.photobucket.com/user/esp_eraser/media/lid3.jpg.html)
:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
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Very astute article
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But a much more entertaining response from OE'ed posters
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There's a very simple solution to this: have Arnott line up Crowley in the centre square at the first bounce, and run through Crowley like a Mack truck ala Yeats on Dermott in the 89 Grand Final. Aim low and break his ribs, or puncture his spleen, that way there's no chance of being pinged for a head high tackle. If Arnott misses on the first attempt, repeat action until successful. Then spit on him as he is stretchered, twitching from the ground.
THATS why we're the best supporter base. Its just never enough to smash some ribs or puncture a spleen we also want so mental disintegration and disrespect thrown in to make sure they know we think that they are just human trash. Go Tigers.
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They reckon Lids had a below average game cos he only got 15 odd touches. I thought he was pretty good seeing he had the leagues premier tagger on him all day. He left the field open for Cotch who carved them up. For my mind it was a top performance from Lids. Well done and stuff your critics
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They reckon Lids had a below average game cos he only got 15 odd touches. I thought he was pretty good seeing he had the leagues premier tagger on him all day. He left the field open for Cotch who carved them up. For my mind it was a top performance from Lids. Well done and stuff your critics
How many FF's get 15 touches and have had a bad game?
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Deledio is like some soft girl.
Outside passenger mid who skates downhill.
Trade Conca too while there is still interest.
He's a nothing player
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Deledio is like some soft girl.
Outside passenger mid who skates downhill.
Trade Conca to while there is still interest.
He's a nothing player
He's like a china doll. How many Deledios are there if you keep opening him up?
Porcelain faced pretender.
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Deledio is like some soft girl.
Outside passenger mid who skates downhill.
Trade Conca too while there is still interest.
He's a nothing player
been saying that for a while re: Conca
I dont rate him at all.
If Eagles want him then lets deal.
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2. Bird keeps Deledio quiet
As Richmond's best midfielder according to the Official AFL Player Ratings, Brett Deledio was always going to be targeted by the Swans. And so it was, with Craig Bird given the task of minding the star Richmond onballer. The 26-year-old struggled to break free of Bird's outstanding close checking and had just 12 touches, four marks and one clearance to three-quarter time and little influence on the game.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-28/double-trouble
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Lids
(http://josephinetalepeddler.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/daffodil_narcissus_flowerl.jpg)
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Lids
(http://josephinetalepeddler.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/daffodil_narcissus_flowerl.jpg)
And not a single footballer amongst em
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Why can't Deledio clean a player up or at minimum shake a tag.
Joyzuz :banghead
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How does he get the tags off new clothes?
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How does he get the tags off new clothes?
He waits for someone else to do it
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Martin cuts them off for him
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;D
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Martin cuts them off for him
;D
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How does he get the tags off new clothes?
given the constant theme we hear of how tight he is with money, maybe he doesnt buy new clothes?
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Meanwhile, the Tigers' midfield was unable to get its running game going against the best on-ball brigade in the competition, with Brett Deledio held in check by Craig Bird.
A bird tagged him out of the game.....a shitman bird
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How does he get the tags off new clothes?
given the constant theme we hear of how tight he is with money, maybe he doesnt buy new clothes?
Maybe the reason he is tight is because he can't break the tag off anything :shh plot thickens :lol
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:lol
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Hmmmm, so in actual fact, he's a tagger who doesn't tag but he's being tagged....
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Weak game from Lids today. :help
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I'm convinced he is mentally weak. This is by far his worst season. Clubs have worked him out and now will get tagged every week.
That clip on the footy show few months ago when Brown discussed his form was proof he can't handle criticism.
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When Jeremy Cameron comes out of contract in two years time he should be put on the table as part of any deal. Lazy, soft bludger.
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Weak game from Lids today. :help
Yep
So Lids is being tagged, here's a tip why don't you run, chase when your opponent has the bloody ball :huh
This is what I mean by running both ways. Perhaps instead of sulking (and that's what it looked liked from where I was sitting yesterday) about being tagged, do the little things, the defensive things and maybe you will cause a turnover = little win for you and then you build from there.
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Weak game from Lids today. :help
Yep
So Lids is being tagged, here's a tip why don't you run, chase when you opponent :huh
This is what I mean by running both ways. Perhaps instead of sulking (and that's what it looked liked from where I was sitting yesterday) about being tag, do the little things, the defensive things and maybe you will cause a turnover = little win for you and then you build from there.
Yes. Deledio has twice the engine of Bird. He could have run him into the ground or at minimum exposed him in positions he's not used to playing. Obviously Deledio chose not to. Mentally weak.
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Weak game from Lids today. :help
Yep
So Lids is being tagged, here's a tip why don't you run, chase when you opponent :huh
This is what I mean by running both ways. Perhaps instead of sulking (and that's what it looked liked from where I was sitting yesterday) about being tag, do the little things, the defensive things and maybe you will cause a turnover = little win for you and then you build from there.
Yes. Deledio has twice the engine of Bird. He could have run him into the ground or at minimum exposed him in positions he's not used to playing. Obviously Deledio chose not to. Mentally weak.
No doubt Deledio has a massive weakness in coping with a tag but surely the coach has to take some responsibility as well after all it is his job to develop his players.
Roos/Healy/King must have mentioned half a dozen possible methods for Deledio to change his role in the side when tagged and yet we never seem to try any.
Hardwick and co just let the game roll on and don't seem to have any ability to present a different set up for an opposition to deal with.
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Maybe Hardwick wants him to grow a pair of balls instead of giving him an easy out. I thought Lids had hardened up and improved from 2009 but he's reverted back to that form. You never hear "maybe Bucks should throw Swanny forward to break this tag". Just doesn't happen and that's because blokes like Swan run their stuffing guts out for 4 quarters. Lids does it occasionally but not enough.
Sook.
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Well said Coach.
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Why isn't the like of Jackson or tuck helping lids by hurting or Shepparding the tagger?
poo team mates
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Maybe Hardwick wants him to grow a pair of balls instead of giving him an easy out. I thought Lids had hardened up and improved from 2009 but he's reverted back to that form. You never hear "maybe Bucks should throw Swanny forward to break this tag". Just doesn't happen and that's because blokes like Swan run their stuffing guts out for 4 quarters. Lids does it occasionally but not enough.
Sook.
Good post, try to think back to when you played football and where having a crap game, did you have your finger up your bum hoping the coach would do something to get you a kick of did you get the stuff moving and get one yourself.
Extremely poor form blaming Dimsum because a player won't work hard, what He should be doing is saying look stuffwit your supposed to be an elite player so stuffing hell act like it
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I think it is a combination of things but the coaches shouldn't escape scrutiny.
A player making the same mistakes and getting the same results over and over again is just as reflective of inadequate coaching as it is inadequate performance.
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All fair points.
He's old enough with the talent and pay for us and the coaching staff to expect more.
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Lids can play so many positions. It's a combination issue for me.
Wing, could run a few taggers to death.
F50, use his good aerial ability and kick goals.
Sometimes I just wish he'd do a Sam Mitchell and punch his tagger in the throat when he's being bear-hugged a la Taylor Hunt.
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Why isn't the like of Jackson or tuck helping lids by hurting or Shepparding the tagger?
poo team mates
its hard for Tucky to sheppard when he doesn't get a game and Jackson well pphhhht?
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Lids can play so many positions. It's a combination issue for me.
Wing, could run a few taggers to death.
F50, use his good aerial ability and kick goals.
Sometimes I just wish he'd do a Sam Mitchell and punch his tagger in the throat when he's being bear-hugged a la Taylor Hunt.
if he cant run a tagger to death starting inside the square why would he be able to from the wing?
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Lids can play so many positions. It's a combination issue for me.
Wing, could run a few taggers to death.
F50, use his good aerial ability and kick goals.
Sometimes I just wish he'd do a Sam Mitchell and punch his tagger in the throat when he's being bear-hugged a la Taylor Hunt.
if he cant run a tagger to death starting inside the square why would he be able to from the wing?
Spot on al
IMV the problem is he wont run, so it doesn't matter where we put him if he is getting tagged and refuse to use a strength that is running to try and break the tag then the position he is playing becomes irrelevant
Only exception to that is if we play him out of the square which means the bulk of the running required is on the lead.
Why we haven't tried that with him I'll never know
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he has been tried out of the sqaure in the past, with a degree of success.
I think that the coaches see him as too talented to hide from taggers up forward and would prefer he learn how to deal with taggers.
I suppose there comes a time where you have to cut your losses and accept that you have to settle for what you can get. it may be time for him to go back to that half back swooper role or play up forward, with perhaps stints in the middle later in the game if needed, which would throw of the oppositions match ups and perhaps free up another player having a down day or he himself do some damage.
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FFS, leave him where he is...to keep moving him would be more detrimental....he will learn.
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I don't understand the obsession with him needing to be a midfielder. He is a very good half back, why not play him there?
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I don't understand the obsession with him needing to be a midfielder. He is a very good half back, why not play him there?
I agree, but he thinks he's a midfielder
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Not that I rate the bombers but I guess in some ways it's like Watson+Stanton.
Stanton can't cope with tag the same way Watson does but having them both firing is essential for the team's success. Whilst not ideal, the coaching staff need to find a way to make Deledio play to his strengths, not try and quench a weakness that is/most likely will always be inherently there.
It's like that old proverb, if you judge a fish by it's ability to play as an inside midfielder.....
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I don't understand the obsession with him needing to be a midfielder. He is a very good half back, why not play him there?
I agree, but he thinks he's a midfielder
Someone needs to have a quiet word to him then.
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Cotchin has been mentoring his former pin-up boy and now teammate Brett Deledio.
Deledio is averaging 23 disposals per game in 2013, compared to 27.5 last year.
The 26-year-old former No.1 draft pick and two-time club champion was held to 21 touches in last week's loss to the Sydney Swans.
"We speak in depth about it every week but more so last week," said Cotchin, who admitted to having a Deledio poster on his wall as a teenager.
"The key to beating a tag is winning your own contested footy and he knows that's an area that he's improved in but still can take it to another level," added Cotchin, 23.
"You feel like you're out there on your own sometimes when you're being tagged, especially against the good ones.
"(Fremantle's) Ryan Crowley is one that stands out."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-02/dustys-house-in-order
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In exchange does Deledio give Cotchin a few pointers in long kicking?
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Hardwick's comments today about Deledio:
"He has been sat on, all good players get sat on the majority of games," Hardwick said.
"We're probably at the stage now where we don't need Brett to have 30 possessions for us to win games. We've shown that over the course of the year.
"Brett changes his position on the field continuously ... he plays a variety of positions and he'll continue to do that."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-08-02/hardwick-press-conference-2nd-august
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"He has been sat on, all good players get sat on the majority of games," Hardwick said.
yeah, but the great players rise above this.
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"He has been sat on, all good players get sat on the majority of games," Hardwick said.
yeah, but the great players rise above this.
Because they are made to realise that is necessary
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i dont think they are made to realise, they just do.
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Its about time Hardwick and some of his team mates looked him in the eye and told him to lift his work rate. It's one thing not getting the hard ball, but why isn't he getting it on the spread. Lack of effort and desire!
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it's about time foley stuffed off
it's about time Cotchin started hitting targets
it's about time Martin started playing footy and stop being a Figjam
deledio is not a problem
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Its about time Hardwick and some of his team mates looked him in the eye and told him to lift his work rate. It's one thing not getting the hard ball, but why isn't he getting it on the spread. Lack of effort and desire!
R u turd spin doctor?
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Much better effort in the second half. Was at the bottom of a number of packs and got his hands on it.
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Went fwd and had an impact
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He puts sides to the sword when the 'soldiers' do their job in the middle.....I guess we'll just have to be happy with that.
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Lids > Cyril lance Luke ...
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deledio was fine today don't know why the Media keep on him
where was Hodge Cyril and bloody today
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Agree user and bents.
People say he played well went we got on top but we got on top because he played well.
Critical player for us.
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Was well below where he should be
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He puts sides to the sword when the 'soldiers' do their job in the middle.....I guess we'll just have to be happy with that.
pretty accurate summary i think
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He puts sides to the sword when the 'soldiers' do their job in the middle.....I guess we'll just have to be happy with that.
x3
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he had 27 touches was very important in the second half and was tagged all day
so the media and his knockers can stuff the right off
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SEN Footy: Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio - 04-08-13
Brett Deledio joins the AFL Sunday team after the Tigers defeated the ladder leaders Hawthorn yesterday at the MCG.
Listen to the AUDIO here: http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/SEN-Footy-Richmond-midfielder-Brett-Deledio/8852
* It comes down to the way Dimma wants us to play our footy – putting our head over it and winning the contested footy. We know that’s what we’d have to do in finals, so we try to emulate that in the home-and-away season, and it paid off for us yesterday [ed. Saturday].
* After we played Essendon in Round 9, in the Dreamtime game, we sat back and we really questioned ourselves, and how we were going with our attack on the footy. From when we went over to West Coast, we set a standard within our group. Pretty much since then, apart from a couple of games, we’ve attacked games pretty well, and attacked the opposition pretty well. It was a great win yesterday [ed. Saturday], but that’s the standard we want to set, and if you don’t live up to that, you won’t play, as Dimma has said.
Full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-05/tough-tigers-thrive
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Tackle like a madman
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six madman tackles yesterday
#2 behind Jacko for the year
1 Daniel Jackson 19 71
2 Brett Deledio 19 69
3 Shane Edwards 18 65
4 Trent Cotchin 18 64
5 Shaun Grigg 19 59
6 Dustin Martin 19 53
7 Reece Conca 13 52
7 Nathan Foley 13 52
9 Nick Vlastuin 14 45
10 Alex Rance 19 44
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Deledio turns tag around
By richmondfc.com.au
4:23pm AEST Monday, August 12, 2013
Dynamic Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio believes he has developed techniques to enable him to overcome the close checking of taggers this season.
“It is tough. You rely on your team-mates a hell of a lot to get you the footy and block for you,” Deledio told Channel 7’s “Game Day” program.
“The thing I worry about is making sure I’m playing my role for the team, and doing my little bit to help us get the win . . . tackling or chasing, or maybe going to someone else to stop them from getting the ball.
“If I’m doing that, and I’ve got the respect of my team-mates and my coaches, I’m happy.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-12/deledio-turns-tag-around
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Deledio turns tag around
By richmondfc.com.au
4:23pm AEST Monday, August 12, 2013
Dynamic Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio believes he has developed techniques to enable him to overcome the close checking of taggers this season.
Is he saving them for the finals?
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Deledio turns tag around
By richmondfc.com.au
4:23pm AEST Monday, August 12, 2013
Dynamic Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio believes he has developed techniques to enable him to overcome the close checking of taggers this season.
Is he saving them for the finals?
:lol :clapping
Best half back flank we have
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Deledio turns tag around
By richmondfc.com.au
4:23pm AEST Monday, August 12, 2013
Dynamic Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio believes he has developed techniques to enable him to overcome the close checking of taggers this season.
“It is tough. You rely on your team-mates a hell of a lot to get you the footy and block for you,” Deledio told Channel 7’s “Game Day” program.
“The thing I worry about is making sure I’m playing my role for the team, and doing my little bit to help us get the win . . . tackling or chasing, or maybe going to someone else to stop them from getting the ball.
“If I’m doing that, and I’ve got the respect of my team-mates and my coaches, I’m happy.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-12/deledio-turns-tag-around
Poor batsard sounds like he's having a tough time accepting the reality of his inability to be as good as he could be
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Agree Ox. It's a bit sad to hear our gun No.1 pick talk about blocks, chasing and tackles, but I think he is on the right track thinking about these basics of the game. If he does these well, he will find that things will happen for him, tag or no tag. He can turn this around pretty quick, then hopefully he will be on channel 7 talking about drilling 5 goals in a match winning finals performance.
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Deledio turns tag around
By richmondfc.com.au
4:23pm AEST Monday, August 12, 2013
Dynamic Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio believes he has developed techniques to enable him to overcome the close checking of taggers this season.
“It is tough. You rely on your team-mates a hell of a lot to get you the footy and block for you,” Deledio told Channel 7’s “Game Day” program.
“The thing I worry about is making sure I’m playing my role for the team, and doing my little bit to help us get the win . . . tackling or chasing, or maybe going to someone else to stop them from getting the ball.
“If I’m doing that, and I’ve got the respect of my team-mates and my coaches, I’m happy.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-12/deledio-turns-tag-around
Poor batsard sounds like he's having a tough time accepting the reality of his inability to be as good as he could be
speaking from experience hey
and deledio is elite end of story
get tagged every week and wins nearly every week, on the odd occasion he gets beaten the media rip into him
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He says he has developed the techniques to overcome tagging.
I don't so much agree he needs "techniques" but more a stuffing harder edge to his overall outlook to rising above a tag.
I see BD as a guy who has always been the best at any sport he chose to play as a kid and as such has developed, for want of a better word, a degree of complacency in his overall outlook.
In tough love terms, it's time for the boy to become a man.
Get stuffen angry son.
As for "doing my little bit to help us get the win" - You're so much better than that boy!!
Don't pee your career up against the wall.
It's you or them pal and of late it's been them.
We all know how good, athletic and naturally talented he is but this soft crap has got to stop.
Tortoise and the hare, brother......
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26 + 3 months
People can judge lids harshly
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26 + 3 months
People can judge lids harshly
i dont
his comment about learning to cope with taggers was to please the media
he gets tagged every week except one game v the crows
and over the yrs has been our best possession gatherer
not bad for a player being tagged and not having much protection
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Deledio turns tag around
By richmondfc.com.au
4:23pm AEST Monday, August 12, 2013
Dynamic Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio believes he has developed techniques to enable him to overcome the close checking of taggers this season.
“It is tough. You rely on your team-mates a hell of a lot to get you the footy and block for you,” Deledio told Channel 7’s “Game Day” program.
“The thing I worry about is making sure I’m playing my role for the team, and doing my little bit to help us get the win . . . tackling or chasing, or maybe going to someone else to stop them from getting the ball.
“If I’m doing that, and I’ve got the respect of my team-mates and my coaches, I’m happy.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-12/deledio-turns-tag-around
Poor batsard sounds like he's having a tough time accepting the reality of his inability to be as good as he could be
speaking from experience hey
and deledio is elite end of story
get tagged every week and wins nearly every week, on the odd occasion he gets beaten the media rip into him
When was the last time he beat a tagger? :lol
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Lids is tagged every game is is going at 23-24 touches a game
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You guys must have low expectations of Lids to think that's good enough
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Still got his best a couple years off
In a young team one of the few leaders
Been in a rubbish team much of his AFL life
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same could be said of Judd at Carlton
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Needs to kick a goal every week
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Nah Judd was born into Kerr cousins cox... wce comparison is more apt
Lids had hacks surrounding him
I think finals might be lids go :shh
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Born into makes no difference to how he has performed at Carlton.
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Were Carlton a better side in 08 than rfx 05?
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Lids should be in his prime now lol
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Prime 26-28
Lids 26
13 - 26
14 - 27
15 - 28
He's not trucking too bad
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The point is not that he's not going so bad, it's that he could be going heaps better.
You disagree?
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I reckon he could be best player in comp
Like kouta when he was unstoppable for a bit
:pray
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I reckon he could be best player in comp
Like kouta when he was unstoppable for a bit
:pray
Right.....but he's not.
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Deledio turns tag around
By richmondfc.com.au
4:23pm AEST Monday, August 12, 2013
Dynamic Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio believes he has developed techniques to enable him to overcome the close checking of taggers this season.
Is he saving them for the finals?
:lol :clapping
Best half back flank we have
Best defense for something like 45 years
Third best in como
No shame in playing lids behind ball at times
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He says he has developed the techniques to overcome tagging.
I don't so much agree he needs "techniques" but more a stuffing harder edge to his overall outlook to rising above a tag.
I see BD as a guy who has always been the best at any sport he chose to play as a kid and as such has developed, for want of a better word, a degree of complacency in his overall outlook.
In tough love terms, it's time for the boy to become a man.
Get stuffen angry son.
As for "doing my little bit to help us get the win" - You're so much better than that boy!!
Don't pee your career up against the wall.
It's you or them pal and of late it's been them.
We all know how good, athletic and naturally talented he is but this soft crap has got to stop.
Tortoise and the hare, brother......
great post
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Deledio turns tag around
By richmondfc.com.au
4:23pm AEST Monday, August 12, 2013
Dynamic Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio believes he has developed techniques to enable him to overcome the close checking of taggers this season.
Is he saving them for the finals?
:thatsgold :lol
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Deledio turns tag around
By richmondfc.com.au
4:23pm AEST Monday, August 12, 2013
Dynamic Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio believes he has developed techniques to enable him to overcome the close checking of taggers this season.
Is he saving them for the finals?
:lol :clapping
Best half back flank we have
What did you make of Luke Hodges game last night?
quarterback is the new midfeild :shh
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So play Lids there? Stop trying to make him play in the guts
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hoping he plays forward today :pray
what did you think of hodge (#1 pick) grand final winning back pocket role and last nights game?
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Didn't see last nights game but I'm assuming he played his role just fine. Why not play Deledio there or forward then? You seem to be looking for an argument because I said he is our best HBF, but then alluding to how well Hodge plays HBF so I'm not quite sure what your point is
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deledio playing much better than Martin. and Cotchin
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baaaa
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VIDEO: Richo and Lids 1-on-1 ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-08-20/richo-and-lids-1-on-1
Tigers learn another valuable lesson
By richmondfc.com.au
Tuesday, August 20, 2013
Richmond star Brett Deledio believes last Saturday’s loss to Carlton at the MCG has “come at a good time”.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-20/tigers-learn-another-valuable-lesson
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If you look at hodge again there is nothing wrong with playing the best player in back pocket / quarter back role
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The dusty saga highlights how much of a good bloke lids is signing till '17 :bow
The bloke that came to the club when we were "worse than fitzory", apparently
Respect
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The dusty saga highlights how much of a good bloke lids is signing till '17 :bow
The bloke that came to the club when we were "worse than fitzory", apparently
Respect
True
But lets not forget that Lids copped the same abuse Dusty is at the minute while we waited for him to sign :rollin :rollin
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The dusty saga highlights how much of a good bloke lids is signing till '17 :bow
The bloke that came to the club when we were "worse than fitzory", apparently
Respect
True
But lets not forget that Lids copped the same abuse Dusty is at the minute while we waited for him to sign :rollin :rollin
WATiger wet himself he was so mad
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:rollin
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:rollin :rollin
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Sign or stuff off was the quote IIRC
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Sign or stuff off was the quote IIRC
:rollin :rollin :rollin
yet with dusty it seems it is the club at fault
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Sign or stuff off was the quote IIRC
:rollin :rollin :rollin
yet with dusty it seems it is the club at fault
When you don't have an actual argument it is usually easier to sling poo at someone.
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true, true.
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We need lids. To be a Hodge
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We need lids. To be a Hodge
yup
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He ain't a Hodge. Never will be.
Has all the physical tools but lacks that mongrel x-factor to lift his team when the pressure is on. Very good player but not a champ.
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Yeah, real looser. Lets trade him... :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Once again, WAT is right on the money. :bow
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I have two questions.
Could someone please explain how this rational post;
He ain't a Hodge. Never will be.
Has all the physical tools but lacks that mongrel x-factor to lift his team when the pressure is on. Very good player but not a champ.
Draws this totaly unrational response;
Yeah, real looser. Lets trade him... :whistle :whistle :whistle
And, why, when on the Internet, where you can be whatever you want, some people elect to be half wits.
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LOL AL
Its WAT, there is no point asking questions or trying to understand
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We need lids. To be a Hodge
Yep a player that can back or the midfield and have an influence where he is needed.
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Not yet but soon vlas will be that man
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He ain't a Hodge. Never will be.
Has all the physical tools but lacks that mongrel x-factor to lift his team when the pressure is on. Very good player but not a champ.
Kills me to say it, but spot on
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Not yet but soon vlas will be that man
Agree!
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He ain't a Hodge. Never will be.
Has all the physical tools but lacks that mongrel x-factor to lift his team when the pressure is on. Very good player but not a champ.
Kills me to say it, but spot on
X2
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He ain't a Hodge. Never will be.
Has all the physical tools but lacks that mongrel x-factor to lift his team when the pressure is on. Very good player but not a champ.
Kills me to say it, but spot on
X2
x3
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Yeah, real looser. Lets trade him... :whistle :whistle :whistle
Didn't you tell him to stuff off because he didn't sign a contract quick enough for your liking?
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Why compare Deledio to Hodge?? Two completely different style of players if you arks me. Its like comparing a F250 with a BMW X5. Sure Hodge may have a bit more mongrel than Deledio, but Lids would burn him off with pace in the first 20m. Plus Lids is arguably a longer kick and has better evasive skills. As others have said, Flossy will be our Hodge, no doubt about it!
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Yeah, real looser. Lets trade him... :whistle :whistle :whistle
Didn't you tell him to stuff off because he didn't sign a contract quick enough for your liking?
:sleep
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wake up Jeff
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:lol
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He ain't a Hodge. Never will be.
Has all the physical tools but lacks that mongrel x-factor to lift his team when the pressure is on. Very good player but not a champ.
He's not yet hung up the boots
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All-time RFC consecutive games list:
Jack Titus 202 (1933-1943)
Kevin Bartlett 173 (1975-1982)
Kevin Bartlett 150 (1966-1972)
Joel Bowden 143 (1998-2004)
Brett Deledio 138* (2007-)
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-23/deledio-keeps-on-keeping-on
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The recruiters of Hawthorn and st kilda never thought Judd would be a Hodge of ball
Deledio is not Hodge but he's not 35 yet. I doubt anyone would call him a champion. But who knows. Who is yo say he won't end up with a couple norm Smiths :thumbsup
In regards to the recent lids is soft trend of of recent which I believe such talk is unjustified.
In regards to the not being hood enough to dominant as a tag breaking mid, I think this is somewhat neieve. The way the sport is changing coaches are not hiding the beat player as a back pocket. But exploitation of the zones, flooding and using the best kick as the quarterback. Attacks commonly start of a hbf. Not the scums of the middle.
McVeigh and lukehodge are not lesser players for playing behind the ball
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lol
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The recruiters of Hawthorn and st kilda never thought Judd would be a Hodge of ball
Deledio is not Hodge but he's not 35 yet. I doubt anyone would call him a champion. But who knows. Who is yo say he won't end up with a couple norm Smiths :thumbsup
In regards to the recent lids is soft trend of of recent which I believe such talk is unjustified.
In regards to the not being hood enough to dominant as a tag breaking mid, I think this is somewhat neieve. The way the sport is changing coaches are not hiding the beat player as a back pocket. But exploitation of the zones, flooding and using the best kick as the quarterback. Attacks commonly start of a hbf. Not the scums of the middle.
McVeigh and lukehodge are not lesser players for playing behind the ball
Bent's, here is an overdue gift from me to you.
(http://tracyindirabadall.edublogs.org/files/2010/02/mavis.jpg)
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:clapping
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Does it come on fool samsun g handheld device? :banghead
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:lol
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The recruiters of Hawthorn and st kilda never thought Judd would be a Hodge of ball
Deledio is not Hodge but he's not 35 yet. I doubt anyone would call him a champion. But who knows. Who is yo say he won't end up with a couple norm Smiths :thumbsup
In regards to the recent lids is soft trend of of recent which I believe such talk is unjustified.
In regards to the not being hood enough to dominant as a tag breaking mid, I think this is somewhat neieve. The way the sport is changing coaches are not hiding the beat player as a back pocket. But exploitation of the zones, flooding and using the best kick as the quarterback. Attacks commonly start of a hbf. Not the scums of the middle.
McVeigh and lukehodge are not lesser players for playing behind the ball
Bent's, here is an overdue gift from me to you.
(http://tracyindirabadall.edublogs.org/files/2010/02/mavis.jpg)
:lol I cried
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So i guess it's our, the supporter's fault, for "expecting too much" from him.
Yeh....'cos none of us know the game well enough to see a young, top 2 draft pick and make a call on his capabilities for the future.
Fact is, his attitude is weak in comparison to his natural talent, in fact, i'd say he needs to get some ATTITUDE!
Only goes at 65-75%.
His 138 games straight,record has shown him that he will get a game without having to exert himself.....so why bust an arse, hey Brett?
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oh my gut is hurting from laughing so much
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Lids at 70% is superior to most blokes in the game....
If he was to ever go at 1oo% for an extended period there wouldn't be many better players
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Lids at 70% is superior to most blokes in the game....
If he was to ever go at 1oo% for an extended period there wouldn't be many better players
exactly
hence the frustration
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Lids at 70% is superior to most blokes in the game....
If he was to ever go at 1oo% for an extended period there wouldn't be many better players
Yet here we are, this far into his career discussing how things would be IF he went at 100%.
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Lids at 70% is superior to most blokes in the game....
If he was to ever go at 1oo% for an extended period there wouldn't be many better players
Yet here we are, this far into his career discussing how things would be IF he went at 100%.
Imagine how good it would be if he went at 120%
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twice as good as he isn't now.....
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VIDEO: Lids' 2013 season review ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-10-28/deledio-season-review
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Lids' new wheels for the 2014 season ....
@BrettDeledio03 - "If last yrs boots were fast, these things are way faster! #nitrocharge #teamadidas @adidasAU"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ4vYk4CcAAR5-E.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BrettDeledio03/status/404813115918798848/photo/1
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Lids' new wheels for the 2014 season ....
@BrettDeledio03 - "If last yrs boots were fast, these things are way faster! #nitrocharge #teamadidas @adidasAU"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ4vYk4CcAAR5-E.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BrettDeledio03/status/404813115918798848/photo/1
What happened to the stealth black?
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#jet
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Looking good.......
:gotigers
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Looking good.......
:gotigers
I'd say Lids looked good from the day he was fired out of his Birth Cannon.
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:lol
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Looking good.......
:gotigers
I'd say Lids looked good from the day he was fired out of his Birth Cannon.
:lol :lol :lol
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“I’m looking forward to getting a lot fitter and a lot stronger again next year, as I always try and do, and build on it,” Deledio said.
“I always look to improve my fitness base. I still feel like I’ve got a lot left in me. I’d like to take more overhead marks, and more pack marks.
“And, I want to build a really strong bond with ‘Cotchy’ (Trent Cotchin), ‘Dusty’ (Dustin Martin), ‘Grigga’ (Shaun Grigg), ‘Jacko’ (Daniel Jackson), and all the boys who play in the midfield.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-12-28/deledio-still-learning
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Might as well give him the charlie now :shh
Trent Cotchin 2012 brownlow winner - deledio 2014. got a nice ring to it
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Lids on MMM's hot breakfast yesterday with Mick Molloy, Eddie and Luke Darcy.
Go to 35 mins in the audio clip. The interview goes for 5 minutes.
http://audioboo.fm/boos/1934663-triple-m-s-hot-breakfast-with-eddie-mcguire-20th-february-2014.mp3?source=rss
or
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/shows/hot-breakfast-eddie-mcguire/podcast/
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Looking good.......
:gotigers
I'd say Lids looked good from the day he was fired out of his Birth Cannon.
Im sure Mrs Deledio would be most impressed with your description ;D
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If we cut away all the crap, Brett Deledio is the best all round footballer we have had in the last 20 years and that includes the likes of Cotchin, Knights and Richo and Campbo and afew others.
Deledio is a star he came to the club when we were poo, he has played game after game, watched others drop off like flies and he is on his way to 400 games as a Richmond player. The boy deserves a premiership and a his rightful place in RFC history :clapping
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If we cut away all the crap, Brett Deledio is the best all round footballer we have had in the last 20 years and that includes the likes of Cotchin, Knights and Richo and Campbo and afew others.
Deledio is a star he came to the club when we were poo, he has played game after game, watched others drop off like flies and he is on his way to 400 games as a Richmond player. The boy deserves a premiership and a his rightful place in RFC history :clapping
x 2 :clapping
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If we cut away all the crap, Brett Deledio is the best all round footballer we have had in the last 20 years and that includes the likes of Cotchin, Knights and Richo and Campbo and afew others.
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If we cut away all the crap, Brett Deledio is the best all round footballer we have had in the last 20 years and that includes the likes of Cotchin, Knights and Richo and Campbo and afew others.
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nup just telling it how it is! Deledio is a star you just have to take the blinkers off and see the reality.
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nup just telling it how it is! Deledio is a star you just have to take the blinkers off and see the reality.
Telling it how you see it you mean ?
He's a good player for sure. Could be better and certainly not the best we've had in the past 20 years. That's the reality I see.
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Id say hes the most consistent player we've had but not the best. Should be a match winner with his overall skillset and ability but isn't.
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If we cut away all the crap, Brett Deledio is the best all round footballer we have had in the last 20 years
Not even close....
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If we cut away all the crap, Brett Deledio is the best all round footballer we have had in the last 20 years
Not even close....
whose been better?
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Id say hes the most consistent player we've had
Wayne Campbell's four JD medals said to say hello. ;D
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Deledio should be the greatest player that ever lived. And I'm not kidding. Kicks 60m bullets with both pegs, brilliant overhead mark, close to the quickest bloke in the comp, one of the fittest and he is 190 cm and 90kg of pure powerhouse. Can play back, forward and as a mid. He is a massive underachiever considering his ability. Is a very good player though and will go down as a Richmond great. But he should be our greatest ever.
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If we cut away all the crap, Brett Deledio is the best all round footballer we have had in the last 20 years
Not even close....
whose been better?
Three of the four blokes you mentioned for a start.
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Id say hes the most consistent player we've had
Wayne Campbell's four JD medals said to say hello. ;D
A tub of butter says hello right back at you
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The time to shine is now for Richmond elder statesman Brett Deledio
Michael Warner
From: Herald Sun
February 22, 2014
BRETT Deledio has two Jack Dyer Medals and an All-Australian jumper tucked away in his cupboard.
He has played 195 of a possible 199 games since Round 1, 2005 and the Champion Data computer rates him “elite”.
But his critics still argue the jury is out.
His former coach Terry Wallace is an unabashed fan, but concedes the next two or three years will define Deledio.
“It’s gone pretty fast,” Deledio, 26, told the Herald Sun before another season of Tiger Army expectation. “You don’t tend to reflect too much while you’re still playing, but we’ve had some ups and downs — more downs so far, but things are looking good at the moment.
“Hopefully the next 50 games can be a lot better.”
Deledio, Richmond’s third longest-serving current player behind Chris Newman and Dan Jackson, has been through rebuilds before. He’s seen the same pre-season headlines and endured numerous false dawns.
But he said the Richmond of 2014 was barely recognisable to the cash-strapped club he walked into a decade ago.
“I suppose early on I was a bit naive to it all, how the club was running,” Deledio said.
“I just thought it was the best place because you were just so excited to be there. You didn’t really look too far outside your own performance and what was going on.
“But certainly since Dimma (coach Damien Hardwick) has come on board and having Brendon Gale as CEO ... it’s a different place. I know Gary March has stepped down as president, but Peggy O’Neal has come on board.
“It’s so professionally run and so warm and welcoming of not only our wives or girlfriends, but your family and extended family.
“We are striving to be a top-four club. We’re a big club — the numbers say that with our members — but we haven’t put the performances on the board at this stage.”
Reflecting on his early years, Deledio said the club just didn’t have the resources to compete.
“I don’t look at it as being less professional,” he said.
“We still trained hard, but we just didn’t have the equipment. The old Punt Rd sheds that we had were just chalk and cheese to what we have now. And certainly off-field things have changed quite a bit.”
Deledio said the Tigers had been at their lowest ebb when Wallace was sacked in June 2009.
“When ‘Plough’ lost his job, the s--- hit the fan pretty much,” he said.
“Everyone thought there was infighting going on with the players and the coach, but it certainly wasn’t that at all. It was just sad to be around the place at that time and to have the media circling around all the time. We were walking on eggshells.
“The game where I thought we had hit rock bottom was after Plough had gone. It was the last game of the season playing West Coast over there.
“We got absolutely trounced by 89 points or something. It was Cogs (Mark Coughlan) and Browny’s (Nathan Brown) last game. You would have thought that we’d be able to do something for them.”
Wallace has watched Deledio’s career with interest since leaving Punt Rd.
“I’ve got to say I’ve probably got a higher opinion of him than your general run of the mill person, because I know how devastating he can be,” Wallace said this week.
“I’d love to have seen him over those early years in a Geelong side to see how people would have considered him, because the sides he played in for a long time really did battle. And as a young player he was targeted.”
Champion Data statistics show Deledio plays his best football at half-back, hitting targets and gaining big metres as a run-and-carry player.
This year he’ll play a number of roles as Richmond’s swingman — in the midfield, off half-back and occasionally in the forward line.
Wallace said where to play him had always been the conundrum.
“I’m an unabashed fan, but I absolutely understand why some people get a little frustrated,” he said.
“It’s fair to say that over his career ... he has really struggled to be able to absolutely beat that one-on-one, tagging-type player in the middle of the ground. That’s where some minor inconsistencies have come.
“My biggest call on him has always been, are those who are coaching him teasing themselves by wanting him to become something he may never become? It’s always an interesting story. Do you just throw him into the guts and make him tough it out and play that sort of style, or is he a Robert Murphy-type, a swingman from end to end, who can play on a wing at centre half-forward or half-back flank?
“We’d have this same conversation at match committee.
“It will come down to how they decide to use him this year. If they decide to use him through the middle of the ground, to me that will make Dustin Martin a better player because Martin won’t get that tag.”
Of footy’s class of 2004 — the infamous Lance Franklin and Richard Tambling national draft — Deledio has played more games than anyone apart from Collingwood’s Travis Cloke. But Cloke’s 196 games, one more than Deledio, include 19 finals.
In nine seasons, the durable Deledio has missed just four games.
“I’ve been pretty blessed. I missed three with a broken hand and one with a knee,” he said.
He got lucky in 2010 when former teammate Shane Tuck crashed through his legs.
“I thought I was in a bit of strife,’’ he said. “I was by myself and he went straight through me, but that was Tucky, he knew no other way, did he? He was just see ball, get ball.
“I’ve been looked after by the big man upstairs, I think.”
Deledio, reinstated as vice-captain this month, said he had matured as a player and a leader.
“I certainly don’t feel old. But you notice it a bit more around the club with a lot more young guys coming through. You feel like you’re an elder statesman, I suppose,” he said.
“I just think about what it was like when I first came down. I used to look up so much to guys like Joel Bowden, ‘Richo’, Nathan Brown and Kane Johnson.
“I used to think, ‘I can’t imagine being at that stage of my career’. But now I’m there, you’ve got to take a step back and say, ‘I can’t be acting like a kid any more’. You’ve got to stand up and be a leader.
Away from football, the 2004 No. 1 pick from Kyabram likes wakeboarding, dirt biking and hunting wild pigs.
“I certainly still like to have some fun and take a few risks outside of footy,” he said.
“I love shooting with my uncle right up to Wilcannia in NSW. We’ve been going every year in my break for five or six nights.”
He’s also started a started a landscaping business, GMac Outdoor Living, with teammate Shaun Grigg.
“We roomed together in New Zealand on a trip and he just started bagging me and I took a liking to it, would you believe,’’ he said.
“And we’ve been pretty good mates ever since. He was in my wedding party with ‘Newy’, my brother and Cam Howat, who used to play at the footy club as well.”
Asked about post-career plans, Deledio said: “Ideally I’d like to stay in footy. I think about it all the time. You never know what can happen the next day or if Tucky might run back through me.
“I really like development and love helping out the young boys. I take great pride and pleasure in seeing them develop and trying things that you’ve told them and seeing if they work or not.
“I’ve been working with Brandon (Ellis) ... he’s a similar type player to what I was when he came in. A really good outside, ball-winning, carrying player who needed to develop their inside.
“So we’ve been doing quite a lot of that with Choco (assistant coach Mark Williams) through the pre-season. It’s been bloody tough, but enjoyable.”
Last year’s finals capitulation to Carlton still cuts deep. Deledio hasn’t watched the game.
“I recorded it on Foxtel. I just wanted to see what happened, but I haven’t got there because I started to get too angry. I turned it off,” Deledio said.
“It was such a blur playing out there. The first half just went like that. I remember getting a couple of kicks and then just fading out. The third quarter came and went and Carlton got on top.
“But we’ve dealt with it and we’ve talked about it and a lot of blokes have watched it.
“And that was the exciting part, we’ve had that taste now of playing in front of a big finals crowd. It was unreal and I want so much more of it.
“That is the thing that has kept us all going through the summer.”
Brett Deledio’s Nissan SuperCoach averages 2005-13
2005 - 75
2006 - 79
2007 - 91
2008 - 102
2009 - 103
2010 - 101
2011 - 104
2012 - 116
2013 - 104
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-time-to-shine-is-now-for-richmond-elder-statesman-brett-deledio/story-fndv8t7m-1226834093377
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If we cut away all the crap, Brett Deledio is the best all round footballer we have had in the last 20 years and that includes the likes of Cotchin, Knights and Richo and Campbo and afew others.
Deledio is a star he came to the club when we were poo, he has played game after game, watched others drop off like flies and he is on his way to 400 games as a Richmond player. The boy deserves a premiership and a his rightful place in RFC history :clapping
Knights and Richo impacted games more. Their best was head and shoulders above lids and they were match winners.
Cotch has more skill and is a smarter footballer.
Lids to me is a above average player but not elite by afl standards.
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Lids has ended up becoming a different player to the one he threatened to become when he started. This doesnt make him less of a player, just different. It is almost laughable to think that some see him below elite.
Being 27, we should be seeing his best years in the next 3-4 seasons.
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Lids has ended up becoming a different player to the one he threatened to become when he started. This doesnt make him less of a player, just different. It is almost laughable to think that some see him below elite.
Being 27, we should be seeing his best years in the next 3-4 seasons.
x 2. He can be frustrating at times when you want him to stand up but all elite players have quiet games (except Gablett maybe).
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Lids is a very good player and a great Richmond man. But with all his strengths I just don't think he backs himself enough and takes the game on enough. IMO he is a very safe footballer. But he is what he is, and that's ok.
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Lids says hello to his critics. The media should write critical articles about him every week.
The only thing you could criticise of his game today is Lids (like a number of his teammates) needs to make the most of his goalscoring chances. He could have kicked 5 today.
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Didn't think the article was critical MT
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The lad is a top-line player in the AFL and an RFC gun.
Anyone who can't see that should put a bib on and sit in the cheer squad.
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Lids says hello to his critics. The media should write critical articles about him every week.
The only thing you could criticise of his game today is Lids (like a number of his teammates) needs to make the most of his goalscoring chances. He could have kicked 5 today.
Not really didnt stand out in the game. Didnt win the game for us.
O
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The lad is a top-line player in the AFL and an RFC gun.
Anyone who can't see that should put a bib on and sit in the cheer squad.
:thumbsup
Interestingly, I saw a lot of movements in and out of heavy traffic that looked very much like the way Cotchy moves.
I think Cotchy is rubbing off on him.
In saying that, yes he is elite so take off ya bibs and get into the world of awesomeness :cheers
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Horse guano this.
Just contibuted with 5-6 others to win the game.
No need to overstate his contribution
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Horse guano this.
Just contibuted with 5-6 others to win the game.
No need to overstate his contribution
No need to poo on a very good player. You struggle, Adam.
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Horse guano.
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Horse guano.
Sounds like mac chucks (maccas) new breaky meal deal :lol
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Horse guano.
Sounds like mac chucks (maccas) new breaky meal deal :lol
McOat burger with Molasses special :lol its funny coz its true :lol.....
Deledio has teeth like a horse too
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Horse guano.
Sounds like mac chucks (maccas) new breaky meal deal :lol
McOat burger with Molasses special :lol its funny coz its true :lol.....
Deledio has teeth like a horse too
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
How disgusting is that.
Could have been what tipped the bombers supplements over the top to get them busted :lol :lol :lol
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Didn't think the article was critical MT
Yeah I thought it was a very positive one TBH,
reckon it was more a little whack the journos who have been critical over the years (Hi Mike Sheahan ;D)
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champion game last night lock him in for the Charlie
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Has an ugly set shot
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How good was that 20 meter handball Lids fired off from on the boundary to set up a goal !
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How good was that 20 meter handball Lids fired off from on the boundary to set up a goal !
Better than any 20 metre Wayne Campbell foot pass in his 4 JDM years ;D
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Better than any 20 metre Wayne Campbell foot pass in his 4 JDM years ;D
Campbell was a great player in a woeful tiger era. Fact.
It was only the blind loudmouth idiot 'supporters' who couldn't see that.
Were you one of them Tony ?
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Better than any 20 metre Wayne Campbell foot pass in his 4 JDM years ;D
Campbell was a great player in a woeful tiger era. Fact.
It was only the blind loudmouth idiot 'supporters' who couldn't see that.
Were you one of them Tony ?
Thought the smiley face would have shown I was kidding?
Was a fan fwiw
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Thought the smiley face would have shown I was kidding?
Was a fan fwiw
Well , my apologies then. Used to really annoy the crap outta me hearing the constant bagging of Campbell in the outer from his own club's supporters when he was one of about 3 decent players we had at the time.
Anyhow , back to Lids. He was great on the weekend but Buckley pretty much let our playmakers have a free reign. That won't happen when the real stuff starts.
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Richmond star Brett Deledio was the best performing player during the NAB Challenge
Herald-Sun
March 13, 2014
EIGHTEEN games in 18 days, a round of practice matches and a pre-season of reconnaissance - the five observations that caught the Field Marshal's eye:
NO RESPECT
BRETT Deledio has a lot in common with the late Rodney Dangerfield. The Hollywood actor used to complain that he got no respect and it would seem the same for the Richmond speedster.
Not deemed good enough for Mike Sheahan's top 50, Deledio was the No. 1 ranked player in the competition over the NAB Challenge. Yes, it was only pre-season, but it was another reminder of the qualities of the 2004 No. 1 draft pick.
The dual best-and-fairest has finished in the top three of the Jack Dyer Medal in four of the past five years. His durability is outstanding, having missed only four games since making his debut in 2005.
How he continues to go underrated is a mystery.
Deledio averaged 123 Champion Data ranking points across his three pre-season games ahead of the Lions' Jack Redden (122) and Bulldogs quartet Luke Dahlhaus (121), Tom Liberatore (119), Macrae (119) and Koby Stevens (118).
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-brett-deledio-was-the-best-performing-player-during-the-nab-challenge/story-fndv8t7m-1226852926736
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Nor one player in afl I'd swap lids for
Martin cotch.. we already got them. Lids IMO is better
Danger. Jet but selfish. Unrefined
Selwood. Good but not skillful enough
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How good was that 20 meter handball Lids fired off from on the boundary to set up a goal !
20?
35
I got excited
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I got excited
« Last Edit: Today at 09:26:33 PM by one-eyed »
Can just imagine what was really said :lol
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I got excited
« Last Edit: Today at 09:26:33 PM by one-eyed »
Can just imagine what was really said :lol
I saw pre-snip.
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Thet'd be right - the first year they stop awarding the Tuck Medal.
Does he at least win a plastic Brownlow replica for being the most awesomest practice match player?
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Thet'd be right - the first year they stop awarding the Tuck Medal.
Does he at least win a plastic Brownlow replica for being the most awesomest practice match player?
Just give him Jobe's. They'd be as meaningful.
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A chocolate easter medallion is worth more than Jab's.
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Heard he did an achilles at training today....... :banghead
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Before or after 12:00pm, Y&BB?
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Before or after 12:00pm, Y&BB?
Before in India…. ;D
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Lids was the 4th worst kick for goal over the past 12 months according to Champion Data stats.
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Glenn’s 10 has taken a look at Champion Data’s worst kicks for goals in terms of legitimate shots — goals, points and clear misses — over the past 12 months, for those with a 30 shot minimum.
4. BRETT DELEDIO (Richmond) — 34.3%
A surprise inclusion in this group because he has often been seen as a reliable kick for goal, especially when on the run. But the Tiger midfielder struggled in front of goal last year, kicking 10.15, as well as missing other shots he could have nailed. Suspect he might be about to turn it around this year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/glenns-10-champion-data-stats-reveal-afls-worst-shots-at-goals-over-past-12-months/story-fni5f067-1226873524128
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As mentioned by wayne in the 'changes' thread, Lids is out this week :(.
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Brett Deledio has exclusiely told Triple M's Rush Hour that he doesn't expect to line up for Richmond against the Bulldogs this weekend.
Deledio is battling an ankle injury but the former number one pick is hoping to be fit to tackle Collingwood in Round 4.
"I'm a little bit ginger at the moment but not to worry, I might spend a week on the sidelines," Deledio told JB and Billy.
"It's sore and it's not allowing me to play the way I'd like to."
"You don't want to be missing at the business end so if I have to miss one it'll have to be this time of year I suppose."
If Deledio does sit out the clash against the Dogs, as he expects, it will bring his record active streak of consecutive games (140) to an end.
http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/afl/news/2014/4/brett-deledio-has-all-but-ruled-himself-out-of-richmond-tigers-match-against-the-western-bulldogs/
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Before or after 12:00pm, Y&BB?
Before in India…. ;D
Seems like you called it early, YBB. My apologies
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Bad luck Lidsy.........
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Knights and Richo impacted games more. Their best was head and shoulders above lids and they were match winners.
Cotch has more skill and is a smarter footballer.
Lids to me is a above average player but not elite by afl standards.
didnot see them winning many matches so calling them match winners is a bit funny ;D
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Gee we miss this bloke!!
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Heard he did an achilles at training today....... :banghead
Even in India I got the correct info!...........
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Just voted in the poll
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Just ruled out of tomorrow nights game and possibly next week too according to SEN newsbreak :(
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Just voted in the poll
What did you vote? ;D
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Good player
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If he has any brains he will quit at the end of the year and try and get to a good club to try and win a flag. He is another one of our players who deserved better ie. Knights Richardson etc but if he doesnt leave he will end his career unfulfilled because we are so far off a premiership its not funny.
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Just voted in the poll
What did you vote? ;D
Yes. But 2009 is a long way away.
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Achilles to our no1 prime mover. Just great.
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IMO champion :bow
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IMO champion :bow
Agree ... that he has survived this long playing so without injuries and fronting up having to play primarily with a bunch of drunks is testament to him. If he was at Geelong or Hawthorn or Collingwood hed be considered a great alas the poor guy got drafted by us and he has had to put with crap for 10 years. A star and a Champion in my Book.
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Agree with above
Adding to that signed a 5 yr deal while our captain and dusty will be holding the club to ransom very soon
200th this week Dimma will build it up again, have to give that extra 5% cause other games don't mean as much
Expecting a loss I am
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“I haven’t won a milestone game yet
Sorry lids
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Doesn't look right.
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Never looks right when he gets a tag.
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Never looks right when he gets a tag.
Doesn't work hard enough
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I don't get this bashing of Brett Deledio and his 'inability to break a tag.' A lot of the top midfielders in the AFL can't break a tag! Sam Mitchell can't. Ryan Griffen was held on the weekend. Cotchin got Macaffered (albeit in a dodgy manner), even Steve Johnson and Joel Selwood struggle with tags. The fact that lids still got his hands on the footy and set up play (was involved in 2 goals if memory served me right) is a testament to the player he is. If lids was out and the tag went to Martin instead we would've kicked no goals by 3/4 time.
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Lids is the team's barometer.
He plays well the side does.
He is below par and either the game is a poor spectacle even though we win or we get thrashed like Sat night.
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5 weeks on sidelines with an archilles, my mail is he still suffers :shh
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Hocking hits Lennon in the head....Deledio, the nearest player, just saunters over and casually picks up the ball, no acknowledgement of the incident as another player from further away runs in to give Hocking a shove.
"Leadership."
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Lids is the team's barometer.
He plays well the side does.
He is below par and either the game is a poor spectacle even though we win or we get thrashed like Sat night.
Disagree not the barometer
More of a wheelbarrow. If he can carry the team they do alright
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5 weeks on sidelines with an archilles, my mail is he still suffers :shh
Certainly playing like it. Having very little impact since he came back. Has the look in his eyes of a player who's NQR.
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Medical report still has him suffering…... :shh
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5 weeks on sidelines with an archilles, my mail is he still suffers :shh
Certainly playing like it. Having very little impact since he came back. Has the look in his eyes of a player who's NQR.
No - hardwick wouldn't play anyone ot 100%
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its a myth that deledio gets easily tagged
all bs
if he did then why does he week in week out get so many touches
the one or 2 games he has a quiet one he cant shake a tag
cotchin is the disgrace and never should have been captain
cannot hit a target and chips the ball to no one too often
i heard from a reliable insider that the playing group as a whole cannot stand hardwick and cotchin
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I don't get this bashing of Brett Deledio and his 'inability to break a tag.' A lot of the top midfielders in the AFL can't break a tag! Sam Mitchell can't. Ryan Griffen was held on the weekend. Cotchin got Macaffered (albeit in a dodgy manner), even Steve Johnson and Joel Selwood struggle with tags. The fact that lids still got his hands on the footy and set up play (was involved in 2 goals if memory served me right) is a testament to the player he is. If lids was out and the tag went to Martin instead we would've kicked no goals by 3/4 time.
Joel Selwood gets tagged and then stands up when it counts and wins crucial clearances and kicks cruical goals, a la' against us a few weeks back.
They tag Brett because they know he cant put up with it. They know he is purely outside. Those types are much easier to stop. Dont worry about the stats, he has no impact when he gerts a heavy tag, as was the case again on Saturday.
With his pace and hands he should be able to go forward and be a real threat, but nope.
Considering his gifts, he doesnt do enough for mine.
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Starting to feel that way about Lids too Willy. :thumbsup
Hardly tagged till last year when we made the 8.
Before that seldom got the tag because noone rated us.
Come to think of it noone does now anyway.
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I don't get this bashing of Brett Deledio and his 'inability to break a tag.' A lot of the top midfielders in the AFL can't break a tag! Sam Mitchell can't. Ryan Griffen was held on the weekend. Cotchin got Macaffered (albeit in a dodgy manner), even Steve Johnson and Joel Selwood struggle with tags. The fact that lids still got his hands on the footy and set up play (was involved in 2 goals if memory served me right) is a testament to the player he is. If lids was out and the tag went to Martin instead we would've kicked no goals by 3/4 time.
Joel Selwood gets tagged and then stands up when it counts and wins crucial clearances and kicks cruical goals, a la' against us a few weeks back.
They tag Brett because they know he cant put up with it. They know he is purely outside. Those types are much easier to stop. Dont worry about the stats, he has no impact when he gerts a heavy tag, as was the case again on Saturday.
With his pace and hands he should be able to go forward and be a real threat, but nope.
Considering his gifts, he doesnt do enough for mine.
When sel gets tagged - Bartel Corey Kelly generally stepup
When lid get tagged - grigg houli Jackson usually poo themselves
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When sel gets tagged Bartel Corey Kelly generally stepup
When lid get taggedgrigg houli jJackson usually poobthemself
So true.
Lids is not the problem.
Too much left to too few as is seemingly forever the Richmond way...
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I don't get this bashing of Brett Deledio and his 'inability to break a tag.' A lot of the top midfielders in the AFL can't break a tag! Sam Mitchell can't. Ryan Griffen was held on the weekend. Cotchin got Macaffered (albeit in a dodgy manner), even Steve Johnson and Joel Selwood struggle with tags. The fact that lids still got his hands on the footy and set up play (was involved in 2 goals if memory served me right) is a testament to the player he is. If lids was out and the tag went to Martin instead we would've kicked no goals by 3/4 time.
Joel Selwood gets tagged and then stands up when it counts and wins crucial clearances and kicks cruical goals, a la' against us a few weeks back.
They tag Brett because they know he cant put up with it. They know he is purely outside. Those types are much easier to stop. Dont worry about the stats, he has no impact when he gerts a heavy tag, as was the case again on Saturday.
With his pace and hands he should be able to go forward and be a real threat, but nope.
Considering his gifts, he doesnt do enough for mine.
When sel gets tagged Bartel Corey Kelly generally stepup
When lid get taggedgrigg houli jJackson usually poobthemself
Thank you! Exactly this. When Cotchin got tagged by Macaffer who was there to back him up? Everyone just stood by and just allowed their captain to get molested
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Hocking hits Lennon in the head....Deledio, the nearest player, just saunters over and casually picks up the ball, no acknowledgement of the incident as another player from further away runs in to give Hocking a shove.
"Leadership."
Was the new appointed Chaplin that came over and gave the shove. Must be his way of showing they made the right choice ;D
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When out marked by Nahas it looked like he'd given up.
Worry about Lids. Looks to be suffering either from injury or depression.
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When out marked by Nahas it looked like he'd given up.
Worry about Lids. Looks to be suffering either from injury or depression.
Injured IMHO
Has no explosive speed when he takes off = a stength of his
Also wouldn't be suprised if he has some sort of shoulder or arm injury. What's with the long sleeve jumper??? Never done that before and has played in some more awful wheather than the geelong, & dreamtime games. And under the roof at Etihad :-\
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My of my main problems with the coach isnpkayong cotch and lids with in jury
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My of my main problems with the coach isnpkayong cotch and lids with in jury
:huh
translation please :help
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My of my main problems with the coach isnpkayong cotch and lids with in jury
My interpretation is "one of my main problems with the coach is playing Cotch and Lids with injury"
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Trade.
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My of my main problems with the coach isnpkayong cotch and lids with in jury
My interpretation is "one of my main problems with the coach is playing Cotch and Lids with injury"
Nothing wrong with a bit of Swahali
On lids though if he is injured why play him, can't see any point in risking any player for this year
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My of my main problems with the coach isnpkayong cotch and lids with in jury
My interpretation is "one of my main problems with the coach is playing Cotch and Lids with injury"
Nothing wrong with a bit of Swahali
On lids though if he is injured why play him, can't see any point in risking any player for this year
Gotta get that 9th spot. :banghead
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Used to be my favourite playing, they way he broke lines and bounced the ball, just speeding past his opponents.
I think hes bulked up too much and lost some speed.
I also think he is definitely injured at the moment/completely over the club and perhaps regretting signing that 5 year deal.
I truely feel for him as he would be an elite player of the competition at Collingwood, Geelong, GC, GWS, Hawthorn, Sydney, Port Adelaide.. but instead he is stuck rotting away at this stuffhole.
Hopefully things improve in the next few years for him.
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Yet Judd and Ablett continue to shine in a field of duds or inexperience.
Fact is, wherever he plays, he wont exude any leadership, therefore, we may as well keep him.lol
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My of my main problems with the coach isnpkayong cotch and lids with in jury
My interpretation is "one of my main problems with the coach is playing Cotch and Lids with injury"
Aye
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Used to be my favourite playing, they way he broke lines and bounced the ball, just speeding past his opponents.
I think hes bulked up too much and lost some speed.
I also think he is definitely injured at the moment/completely over the club and perhaps regretting signing that 5 year deal.
I truely feel for him as he would be an elite player of the competition at Collingwood, Geelong, GC, GWS, Hawthorn, Sydney, Port Adelaide.. but instead he is stuck rotting away at this stuffhole.
Hopefully things improve in the next few years for him.
How could gws make him an elite player of the comp :lol FMD if I'm mistaken but I thought he was aa in 2013, has been playing with an archilles all year :shh
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Used to be my favourite playing, they way he broke lines and bounced the ball, just speeding past his opponents.
I think hes bulked up too much and lost some speed.
I also think he is definitely injured at the moment/completely over the club and perhaps regretting signing that 5 year deal.
I truely feel for him as he would be an elite player of the competition at Collingwood, Geelong, GC, GWS, Hawthorn, Sydney, Port Adelaide.. but instead he is stuck rotting away at this stuffhole.
Hopefully things improve in the next few years for him.
How could gws make him an elite player of the comp :lol FMD if I'm mistaken but I thought he was aa in 2013, has been playing with an archilles all year :shh
You cross that white line...... No excuses if your injured don't play. :help
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Think about it, theres plenty wrong but Lids ain't the problem folks
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3. Crowley/Mzungu take Deledio's scalp
Richmond obviously put plenty of thought into what to do when the AFL's No.1 stopper Ryan Crowley locked onto their prime midfield mover. Brett Deledio started mostly across half-forward, mirroring Patrick Dangerfield's effort to take Crowley forward last round, and struck an early blow by slotting the game's opening goal from a tight angle. But Deledio struggled up forward thereafter, only mustering eight touches and 1.1 to half-time. He kept fighting with Tendai Mzungu as a shadow after half-time to finish with 22 touches and 2.1, but his influence was limited.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-14/talking-points-richmond-v-fremantle
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Get real guys Lids goes missing when things get tuff and team needs him to stand up goes in his shell.
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Get real guys Lids goes missing when things get tuff and team needs him to stand up goes in his shell.
Always has and at his age, always will.
It's all about the $ for this boy. Now.
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Yet Judd and Ablett continue to shine in a field of duds or inexperience.
Fact is, wherever he plays, he wont exude any leadership, therefore, we may as well keep him.lol
Judd is average now and had good help at WCE
Ablett always played with good Geelong side or a side full of top five draft pick
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Deledio is NOT the PROBLEM!
Deledio is a C+ player and at best B player.
NEVER has he stood up when the kitchen is hot.
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Need to swap for one of those 10 better than miles players at Albury
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Need to swap for one of those 10 better than miles players at Albury
You finally got it !!
Lids overated
Doesn't deliver in big games and never will
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Hey Chuck
Will the penny ever drop with you as of today why we are equal bottom ?
Oh and I have a mate gathering the names of 10 better than Miles for you ;)
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Deledio isn't the reason Richmond are last.
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Deledio isn't the reason Richmond are last.
Obiously ?
The last time I remember him really breaking a game open was that dreamtime game a few years ago.
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Deledio isn't the reason Richmond are last.
Obiously ?
The last time I remember him really breaking a game open was that dreamtime game a few years ago.
Forget about season 2012 that was the best 10-11-1 season by any team in the history of football. Given we recovered from a 1-4 start we were moral premiers that year. :lol :rollin :lol
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Deledio isn't the reason Richmond are last.
Obiously ?
The last time I remember him really breaking a game open was that dreamtime game a few years ago.
.....and before that, 2008.
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Deledio isn't the reason Richmond are last.
Obiously ?
The last time I remember him really breaking a game open was that dreamtime game a few years ago.
.....and before that, 2008.
We were just locked and loaded then nothing like 2012. ;D
BTW 2008 was Richo's year everything else was just incidental. :thumbsup
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Deledio isn't the reason Richmond are last.
Obiously ?
The last time I remember him really breaking a game open was that dreamtime game a few years ago.
.....and before that, 2008.
We were just locked and loaded then nothing like 2012. ;D
BTW 2008 was Richo's year everything else was just incidental. :thumbsup
Best. Ninth. Ever.
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Deledio isn't the reason Richmond are last.
Obiously ?
The last time I remember him really breaking a game open was that dreamtime game a few years ago.
Maybe that's the problem.
Why is he continuously expected to be the matchwinner? too much left ton too few perhaps
Kouta would break a game open - but he was I'm a fair team at the time
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Think about it, theres plenty wrong but Lids ain't the problem folks
Agree. We need to add to our handful of good players, not get rid of them.
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Think about it, theres plenty wrong but Lids ain't the problem folks
Agree. We need to add to our handful of good players, not get rid of them.
Well said MM. :clapping
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He's been watered down too much by the RFC
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Think about it, theres plenty wrong but Lids ain't the problem folks
Agree. We need to add to our handful of good players, not get rid of them.
Well said MM. :clapping
Would you swap him for someone like Fyfe?
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Think about it, theres plenty wrong but Lids ain't the problem folks
Agree. We need to add to our handful of good players, not get rid of them.
Well said MM. :clapping
Would you swap him for someone like Fyfe?
Only if I had to. Getting Fyfe would improve the team more than losing Lids but having both would be better. Mind you, Lids would probably win a Brownlow at Freo….. :banghead
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Has been lids most ordinary year, can't help but think he s still hampered by the archilles
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Has been lids most ordinary year, can't help but think he s still hampered by the archilles
Lets hope it's not chronic.
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Has been lids most ordinary year, can't help but think he s still hampered by the archilles
Lets hope it's not chronic.
It is. Hardwick said that they've been managing it for a few seasons now. :(
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Has been lids most ordinary year, can't help but think he s still hampered by the archilles
Lets hope it's not chronic.
It is. Hardwick said that they've been managing it for a few seasons now. :(
This is a valid concern. Lids looks a fraction of the player of previous seasons currently.
Achillies injuries are not what a footballer wants.
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Was always going to happen
A decade of carrying a team of spuds on his back
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If things were black and white I would definitely say "you cross the line, you're fit to play." But let's not be naive and think clubs don't force their players to go on the field injured/not 100% because the coach thinks they're vital to their structure.
Mark Harvey kept sending out a <100% sandildands and expected Pavlich to do everything. Chris Judd tore his hamstring in 6 minutes and they expect us to believe it's unrelated to his previous injury. Let's not forget RFC is a club which allowed Tuck to walk back on the field and play when he had a fractured scapula.
I'm not saying it's OK and I wish the culture would change but to say it's 100% on the players that when they walk onto the field they declare they're fit is naive.
I don't think Lids has a lot of say in the matter. They really should've rested him a lot longer but he was thrown into the side when we played Geelong and has had to play ever since. He has no acceleration and break away speed at the moment which is normally his greatest asset. Hell even Cotchin is a bit slow in congestion these days because his knee needs tweeking constantly.
The club needs other players to shoulder more of the load so our blue chip players can have some weeks off FFS
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" allegedly "
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Was always going to happen
A decade of carrying a team of spuds on his back
Must be why he's never put in a 4 quarter effort.
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If GWS offered pick 1 for Deledio plus k Jacksch I would take it.
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Deledio gets his groove back
richmondfc.com.au
July 3, 2014
“I feel like I’m starting to get my speed back, and some confidence back, in my Achilles,” Deledio told Richmond’s weekly podcast, Talking Tigers.
“I came back and I was right to go, but it wasn’t 100 percent.
“It probably hampers you a bit upstairs as well - you’re thinking about it, and it has you that second or two off. If you miss that second or two, you miss the contest, so to speak.
“It’s been tough, and I’ve played some ordinary footy through that time, but I feel like I’m starting to get my touch back, and my work rate back, and I’m finding a little bit more of the footy.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-03/deledio-gets-his-groove-back
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Oh what a surprise
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Deledio gets his groove back
richmondfc.com.au
July 3, 2014
“I came back and I was right to go, but it wasn’t 100 percent.
So you weren't right to go, just as well the Achilles didn't decide it was time to 'go' like Foley's a couple of yrs back when he tried to push through achilles tendonitis.
But good to hear it's back to normal, people were starting to say it was chronic
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What about not playing the best players until they have recovered
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To be fair in elite sport 'right to go' is never 100% fit.
If players had to be 100% fit to play AFL would be a 5 on 5 game over a three round season.
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Have to respect Deledio. Always honest. Straight down the line. Achilles injury is a hard one to carry.
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To be fair in elite sport 'right to go' is never 100% fit.
If players had to be 100% fit to play AFL would be a 5 on 5 game over a three round season.
Indeed but IMO the line is drawn at 'can playing player x make his body worse long term'
I the answer is yes. And the season is over already. And the person is an exceptional talent - the club are indeed pricks
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Was the master of handballing it to a player directly under pressure. They all did it but Deledio was just sublime :clapping
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Shocking yesterday.
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Most inside 50s yesterday
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was terrible yesterday
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He probably got more possession than I thought, but I was wondering in the third quarter if he was playing or not
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30 odd touches in his awful game xomming back from injury where he's probably not fit but playing anyway so dimma can get to ninth. Almost kicked goal of the year
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30 odd touches in his awful game xomming back from injury where he's probably not fit but playing anyway so dimma can get to ninth. Almost kicked goal of the year
Did he get 30 yeasterday, I honestly thought he barely got 20
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Turning into an average player.
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Just like Judd and nicnat when they play Witt injury too
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and possibly Ablett for the season's remainder
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Brett Deledio gets footy's most extreme tag
afl.com.au
July 24, 2014 8:00 PM
RICHMOND midfielder Brett Deledio got a scare on the club’s flight to Perth on Thursday when he found himself sitting next to Fremantle tagger Ryan Crowley.
The Tigers star posted a picture of himself and his nemesis on Instagram, adding, “Wouldn’t bloody read about it #stillcan’tshakehim #clamp”.
With Crowley by his side, it was likely nuts and soft drinks were hard earned for 'Lids' during the four-hour flight.
When Deledio takes the field against West Coast on Friday night, Richmond fans will undoubtedly be hoping he finds a little more space.
(http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpa1/10549670_667311810026870_248315917_n.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-24/lids-gets-extreme-tag
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Probably no coincidence that we've won our past 4 and Lids has racked up 30, 27, 26 & 26 possies in those games.
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was his best game of the year by a considerable margin - unfortunately he rarely has so much influence on the contest, when he does it just makes you realise how big a player he could've(could?) be..
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I think he's played up to that level sseveral times this year. We all see things differently.
I find it funny when the umpire gives him frees. You can almost see him think I see scragged off the ball 40 times a game. Why do they pick this one
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Hopefully the achilles problem is non-existant now and he can win the ball and drive the ball i50 the way he did last night for all of 2015. I thought his handling and disposal in the wet was fantastic
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Brett Deledio gets footy's most extreme tag
afl.com.au
July 24, 2014 8:00 PM
RICHMOND midfielder Brett Deledio got a scare on the club’s flight to Perth on Thursday when he found himself sitting next to Fremantle tagger Ryan Crowley.
The Tigers star posted a picture of himself and his nemesis on Instagram, adding, “Wouldn’t bloody read about it #stillcan’tshakehim #clamp”.
With Crowley by his side, it was likely nuts and soft drinks were hard earned for 'Lids' during the four-hour flight.
When Deledio takes the field against West Coast on Friday night, Richmond fans will undoubtedly be hoping he finds a little more space.
(http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpa1/10549670_667311810026870_248315917_n.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-24/lids-gets-extreme-tag
no way would i sit next to that idiot.
I'd stuffn belt the dog.
as for #stillcan’tshakehim #clamp”, soft bastard
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Hopefully the achilles problem is non-existant now and he can win the ball and drive the ball i50 the way he did last night for all of 2015. I thought his handling and disposal in the wet was fantastic
Yep was a cut above the rest
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Played a very good game against West Coast.
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If the kids kick on
Miles vlastuin conca etc.
Then you can play, at times, lids chimp martin all forward.
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Miles vlastuin conca etc.
Who are the etc's?
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Dunno
Lennoon
Impressed me with his inside ball vs port.
Mcdonuts.
Arnot.
Generally kids missing out due yo list blockers
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Dunno
Lennoon
Impressed me with his inside ball vs port.
Mcdonuts.
Arnot.
Generally kids missing out due yo list blockers
Ok thought you may have meant the Griiiiiggggggggsssterrrrrrrrrrrr
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A lot of xollingwood fans started to xclaim Pendle bury overrated
Apart for gaz Dangerfield selwod
Who is more has more value, or who'd you rather over lids?
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VIDEO: Showreel: Deledio delivers
Brett Deledio at his damaging best with 31 disposals, 10 marks and two goals ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-08-02/round-19-deledio-delivers
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VIDEO: Showreel: Deledio delivers
Brett Deledio at his damaging best with 31 disposals, 10 marks and two goals ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-08-02/round-19-deledio-delivers
Lids is moving more like his old self in the last couple of weeks. He's got that burst of speed back.
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Best on ground by a country mile
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VIDEO: Showreel: Deledio delivers
Brett Deledio at his damaging best with 31 disposals, 10 marks and two goals ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-08-02/round-19-deledio-delivers
Lids is moving more like his old self in the last couple of weeks. He's got that burst of speed back.
And he is kicking long again.....
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VIDEO: Showreel: Deledio delivers
Brett Deledio at his damaging best with 31 disposals, 10 marks and two goals ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-08-02/round-19-deledio-delivers
Lids is moving more like his old self in the last couple of weeks. He's got that burst of speed back.
And he is kicking long again.....
Love those shots at goal he takes beyond 50. Its his set shot technique i50 which needs improvement. But he was fantastic today. No one from GWS could touch him
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Plays ok once per ten games on average
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High HF is his best and 'natural' position from junior days. Has been playing there the past several weeks and is starting to utilise his other strengths like marking and mismatches against defenders with his pace, marking and all round ability to roam wherever. Keep him there!
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Will kick 100 next season
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watched the replay last night and thought his game was fantastic. His form has been very good of late. Only minor criticism is that his 2.4 could've easily been 3.3 or 4.2 but I like his instinct of taking the game on and he rightly deserved the 10 AFLCA votes for his efforts against the Crows
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Lids on life as a forwrd ....
“I’m loving it. It feels natural,” Deledio said on this week’s edition of Richmond’s official podcast, ‘Talking Tigers’.
“I picked up, I suppose, playing off half-back, and just tried to understand as much as I could.
“That really helped the defensive side of my game, but playing off half-forward, you get a chance to just be one-on-one with your opponent, and really try and test him out with his running ability and his marking ability.
Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-20/lids-loving-life-forward
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High HF is his best and 'natural' position from junior days. Has been playing there the past several weeks and is starting to utilise his other strengths like marking and mismatches against defenders with his pace, marking and all round ability to roam wherever. Keep him there!
Totally agree. Is a very good mark for his size and his long kicking is a very good asset. One of the better decisions made by this club to play him as a half-forward.
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Think he played ff as a kid
And killed it
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Overall I thought he was good tonight. Really liked him breaking away from Montagna in the middle and calmly slotting it though. His contested mark in the 4th? was pretty sensational as well. Just think his set shot kicking is letting him down
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Deledio is NOT the PROBLEM!
Deledio is a C+ player and at best B player.
NEVER has he stood up when the kitchen is hot.
Whoops
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Still an excellent player for us, was outstanding tonight in poor conditions.
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stood up when the game needed him most.
:gotigers
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Deledio is NOT the PROBLEM!
Deledio is a C+ player and at best B player.
NEVER has he stood up when the kitchen is hot.
Whoops
I think I just got a full body cramp laughing
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:bow
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What does claw say?
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What does claw say?
what do you recommend people take after getting on the turps?
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Deledio is NOT the PROBLEM!
Deledio is a C+ player and at best B player.
NEVER has he stood up when the kitchen is hot.
Whoops
:clapping
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What does claw say?
what do you recommend people take after getting on the turps?
More turps!
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speaking of full body cramps, how is the big tross going, is he still listed over at the crows?
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Deledio is NOT the PROBLEM!
Deledio is a C+ player and at best B player.
NEVER has he stood up when the kitchen is hot.
Whoops
I think I just got a full body cramp laughing
Oh my that is funny
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He certainly stood up for us tonight.
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Need to show something...worst first ahlf of footy he has ever played :P
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What about the other 21 guys without the broken face, do something
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Trade to GWS for WH-E.
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Will kick a Crap load of goals if he does gws
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What about the other 21 guys without the broken face, do something
Good point but elite players stand up in big games. Needs to finish off strong, and yes, so do the other 21 players.
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We want our best 6 to be superman
When our bottom sox plays like women
It's unsustainable
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What about the other 21 guys without the broken face, do something
Good point but elite players stand up in big games. Needs to finish off strong, and yes, so do the other 21 players.
Cool?
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And again
It's a team game
He can't beat 22 people himself
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Much better :clapping the other 21 players :help
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Agree bottom 6 are awful.
We topped up to squeeze in the top 8. weve done that to appease the masses. Now get real and build a premiership list please
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Agree bottom 6 are awful.
We topped up to squeeze in the top 8. weve done that to appease the masses. Now get real and build a premiership list please
As I keep saying - you can't when you keep re-signing all the duds....
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Agree bottom 6 are awful.
We topped up to squeeze in the top 8. weve done that to appease the masses. Now get real and build a premiership list please
As I keep saying - you can't when you keep re-signing all the duds....
We hear you Emperor :clapping
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Copped a solid head knock early in the 1st & had to go off. He come back on & had a go
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I didn't think he was horrible today ,definitely one of our better players (although that's not saying much in a 10 goal flogging). I think the HF experiment is over. What really exposed us was our lack of pace in the middle. Deledio being one of the few fast people in our list needs to play in the engine room next year.
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Agree bottom 6 are awful.
We topped up to squeeze in the top 8. weve done that to appease the masses. Now get real and build a premiership list please
As I keep saying - you can't when you keep re-signing all the duds....
We hear you Emperor :clapping
King Dicocleaning
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Agree bottom 6 are awful.
We topped up to squeeze in the top 8. weve done that to appease the masses. Now get real and build a premiership list please
As I keep saying - you can't when you keep re-signing all the duds....
We hear you Emperor :clapping
King Dicocleaning
Damn right - bow down to me, you lowly prol.
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Ando @Tigers_of_Old twitter:
"Young @BrettDeledio03 taking a screamer playing up fwd way back in '05..kicked the goal too. #footyflashback #gotiges"
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/546426930518450177
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Ando @Tigers_of_Old twitter:
"Young @BrettDeledio03 taking a screamer playing up fwd way back in '05..kicked the goal too. #footyflashback #gotiges"
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/546426930518450177
Yeah Thanks for that, I think 15 was Mitch Farmer, been trying to forget him and the trade
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Ando @Tigers_of_Old twitter:
"Young @BrettDeledio03 taking a screamer playing up fwd way back in '05..kicked the goal too. #footyflashback #gotiges"
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/546426930518450177
Yeah Thanks for that, I think 15 was Mitch Farmer, been trying to forget him and the trade
15 is Petts before he went to number 8.
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Ando @Tigers_of_Old twitter:
"Young @BrettDeledio03 taking a screamer playing up fwd way back in '05..kicked the goal too. #footyflashback #gotiges"
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/546426930518450177
Yeah Thanks for that, I think 15 was Mitch Farmer, been trying to forget him and the trade
15 is Petts before he went to number 8.
Ah thanks, Petts is almost as bad a memory but at least we didn't trade For him
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Ando @Tigers_of_Old twitter:
"Young @BrettDeledio03 taking a screamer playing up fwd way back in '05..kicked the goal too. #footyflashback #gotiges"
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/546426930518450177
Yeah Thanks for that, I think 15 was Mitch Farmer, been trying to forget him and the trade
15 is Petts before he went to number 8.
Pettifer started in 8 and moved to 15 to give 8 to Tom Roach when he started at the club. All of that worked out well!
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good player :clapping
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Lids showing off his new wheels for 2015:
brettdeledio03 instagram: "Got my shiny new Ferraris today. Love the colour way of the F50 this year. #therewillbehaters @adidasau @dwyanewade #BD3"
(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t51.2885-15/10755953_369192996594169_1894785594_n.jpg)
http://instagram.com/p/yK8trZIbfT/
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I have watched replays and waited a long time to question one of our worriers but Lids needs to do more for a player of his talent.
I have watched replayes of years gone by and of his latest years and I'm sorry to say he was better 5 years ago.
As a kid he took the game on but but as an adult he has become nervous.
If he continued the way he is going he will be known as a very good AFL footballer winning two B&F's but his best will be lost. He has ball skills to be an out and out star of the league but he is not capable of taking the Tigers further than his position has alowded him to. He is a good follower but is pretending to be a leader of our club.
I know people that know Brett and he is no leader at any level includinding our side as vise captain.
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I know this isn't going to be popular but I have to ask one question, why is Cotch captain and not Lids after years of him being at the club?
Lids is a follower, end of story.
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Don't get me wrong,I love watching Lids winning the footy when we are winning.
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I know this isn't going to be popular but I have to ask one question, why is Cotch captain and not Lids after years of him being at the club?
Lids is a follower, end of story.
Has nothing to do with Lids being a "follower" which BTW I don't necessarily agree with
When it comes to the captaincy....
Cotch was always going to be captain, always, end of that story.
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I know this isn't going to be popular but I have to ask one question, why is Cotch captain and not Lids after years of him being at the club?
Lids is a follower, end of story.
Has nothing to do with Lids being a "follower" which BTW I don't necessarily agree
Cotch was always going to be captain, always, end of that story.
WP, I know people that have grown up with Lids and he is so far off being a leader I can attest to it myself. And I'm talking best friends. If you think Lids was any chance of leading this club do you think he would have been awarded it by his teammates.
Cotch has been chosen as captain ilo Lids because Lids is a child.
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I know this isn't going to be popular but I have to ask one question, why is Cotch captain and not Lids after years of him being at the club?
Lids is a follower, end of story.
Has nothing to do with Lids being a "follower" which BTW I don't necessarily agree
Cotch was always going to be captain, always, end of that story.
WP, I know people that have grown up with Lids and he is so far off being a leader I can attest to it myself. And I'm talking best friends. If you think Lids was any chance of leading this club do you think he would have been awarded it by his teammates.
Cotch has been chosen as captain ilo Lids because Lids is a child.
Not disputing what you know big tone but when it came to the captaincy no-one, not Lids or anyone else had a chance it was always going to be Cotchin. So it wouldn't have mattered what sort of leader lids or anyone else happens to be as I said no one else other than Cotchin was ever gong to be captain of the RFC
I have always thought that one of Lids best games was when he captained the side back in 2004 in Perth, hurt his knee that night but kept gong and was sensational
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Lids is a gun, Spose we all thought he would be our superstar. Hard to do when we've made and lost 2 finals
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I know this isn't going to be popular but I have to ask one question, why is Cotch captain and not Lids after years of him being at the club?
Lids is a follower, end of story.
Has nothing to do with Lids being a "follower" which BTW I don't necessarily agree
Cotch was always going to be captain, always, end of that story.
WP, I know people that have grown up with Lids and he is so far off being a leader I can attest to it myself. And I'm talking best friends. If you think Lids was any chance of leading this club do you think he would have been awarded it by his teammates.
Cotch has been chosen as captain ilo Lids because Lids is a child.
Not disputing what you know big tone but when it came to the captaincy no-one, not Lids or anyone else had a chance it was always going to be Cotchin. So it wouldn't have mattered what sort of leader lids or anyone else happens to be as I said no one else other than Cotchin was ever gong to be captain of the RFC
I have always thought that one of Lids best games was when he captained the side back in 2004 in Perth, hurt his knee that night but kept gong and was sensational
Do you think this club is run by d1c7heads? Don't answer that!! Lids is not captain because he wears poo couloured boots it's because the guys is a child! Not trying to be rude but I have met him. And I'm being nice.
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Lids ain't the dh
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WP, you have shown to me that you are nothing but a supporter,
If you think Cotch was given this job as captain over Lids purely because he got the captaincy because Cotch came along, he got it because Lids had know idea.
Even know to talk to Lids, it's laughable.. I have young guys in my business that are better qualified than Lids to lead people.
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I think Lids has matured over the years. He was far from a leader when he came to the club. He is one of those guys who has grown into a leadership role rather than being a born natural leader.
Now players look up to him to break play open on the field and he leads from example with his actions. He is not a leader that leads with his mouth.
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I have a different perspective on this issue BT.
Brett early on in his career at Richmond "never wanted" to become captain, not because he wasn't any good or would be terrible at the job, but on a personal level did not want to do it.
Newman was not going to last forever in the job, we did not have an adequate replacement for Newman, Brett was the obvious choice but as i said he wasn't the slightest bit interested in it.
When Cotchin came along it was recognized that he had the potential to be the man, to fill the position, to be an adequate replacement for Newman, so Cotchin was primed for it. So that is why he beat Lids into the position, Lids did not want the position and of course Cotch ended up with it.
Of course Deledio has matured a lot since those days and I believe regrets to some extent not taking the position or at least making it known to the officials that mattered most in such decisions that he was willing to assume the role.
I have no doubt that he would except the role today if circumstances warranted it, but he is happy for Cotch to be the captain and would never rock the boat.
From my point of view i think you are being a bit harsh on him BT.
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I have watched replays and waited a long time to question one of our worriers but Lids needs to do more for a player of his talent.
I have watched replayes of years gone by and of his latest years and I'm sorry to say he was better 5 years ago.
As a kid he took the game on but but as an adult he has become nervous.
If he continued the way he is going he will be known as a very good AFL footballer winning two B&F's but his best will be lost. He has ball skills to be an out and out star of the league but he is not capable of taking the Tigers further than his position has alowded him to. He is a good follower but is pretending to be a leader of our club.
I know people that know Brett and he is no leader at any level includinding our side as vise captain.
spot on - Lids is a very good player but hes under achieved, with his skillset he should be a top 5 player in the AFL, instead he has cruised most of his career and unfortunately seems content just being a very good player instead of the best player. Also right regarding leadership, never really seen it, seems like hes happy just being one of the boys
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Fmd could've been summised in one word
Tigeritis :thumbsup
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Lids is a jet. We need more like him.
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I'd like to see a list of Richmond players who have performed better than lids in his time, over the same length of time.
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I'd like to see a list of Richmond players who have performed better than lids in his time, over the same length of time.
Doesn't mean much seeing as though we've absolutely butchered our recruiting and not bought a reasonable standard of talented players into the club.
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WP, you have shown to me that you are nothing but a supporter,
If you think Cotch was given this job as captain over Lids purely because he got the captaincy because Cotch came along, he got it because Lids had know idea.
Even know to talk to Lids, it's laughable.. I have young guys in my business that are better qualified than Lids to lead people.
What exactly is it that I am supposed to show you? Am I supposed to prove something here? :huh3
I would suggest that you re-read what I wrote but I will repeat it yet again.
You are focusing on one person not getting the captaincy over Cotchin. What I said and I will say again was that no other player other than Cotchin was ever going to get the captaincy. End of story.
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I know this isn't going to be popular but I have to ask one question, why is Cotch captain and not Lids after years of him being at the club?
Lids is a follower, end of story.
Has nothing to do with Lids being a "follower" which BTW I don't necessarily agree
Cotch was always going to be captain, always, end of that story.
WP, I know people that have grown up with Lids and he is so far off being a leader I can attest to it myself. And I'm talking best friends. If you think Lids was any chance of leading this club do you think he would have been awarded it by his teammates.
Cotch has been chosen as captain ilo Lids because Lids is a child.
I can only surmise you are taking the P.
Or else posting comments like this is a disgrace. Lids could have gone anywhere and probably done better in a more successful team. He was used as our link man in the back line for what 2 -3 years and he would have been far more effective in another position. His loyalty endurance and skill has been second to none at Richmond. We can't all be leaders and not all of us want to be.
You should really take a good long hard look at your self and not post comments like this about one of our better players.
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Big Tone you obviously do not know lids at all ,some of the rubbish you spout is laughable, these so called mates you quote are achieving exactly what in life ,not that I believe you have heard anything from anybody with credibility. It sounds personal from you and nothing to do with the truth. I know the family well and like I said what you dribble is just laughable. A follower ha ha if you only knew.
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There's no doubt Deledio is a fantastic player.
What is concerning is that he is only on light duties at the moment. I hope he's not impacted by a curbed pre season because he is a big key to our hopes in 2015.
What is wrong with him exactly anyone know?
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There's no doubt Deledio is a fantastic player.
What is concerning is that he is only on light duties at the moment. I hope he's not impacted by a curbed pre season because he is a big key to our hopes in 2015.
What is wrong with him exactly anyone know?
"General soreness".
Maybe his achilles problem flared up again during training.....
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Apologies people, a few to many drinks on Australia Day. :wallywink
Self imposed week ban for me.
Yes I am an idiot. And have a much deserved sore head today.
Apologies again for my dribble. :thumbsup
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Apologies people, a few to many drinks on Australia Day. :wallywink
Self imposed week ban for me.
Yes I am an idiot. And have a much deserved sore head today.
Apologies again for my dribble. :thumbsup
Well done for admitting fault
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Apologies people, a few to many drinks on Australia Day. :wallywink
Self imposed week ban for me.
Yes I am an idiot. And have a much deserved sore head today.
Apologies again for my dribble. :thumbsup
Been out celebrating Prine Phillip's knighthood, have we?
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There's no doubt Deledio is a fantastic player.
What is concerning is that he is only on light duties at the moment. I hope he's not impacted by a curbed pre season because he is a big key to our hopes in 2015.
What is wrong with him exactly anyone know?
"General soreness".
Maybe his achilles problem flared up again during training.....
I bloody hope not. Definitely a concern.
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Apologies people, a few to many drinks on Australia Day. :wallywink
Self imposed week ban for me.
Yes I am an idiot. And have a much deserved sore head today.
Apologies again for my dribble. :thumbsup
Props BT. :thumbsup
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There's no doubt Deledio is a fantastic player.
What is concerning is that he is only on light duties at the moment. I hope he's not impacted by a curbed pre season because he is a big key to our hopes in 2015.
What is wrong with him exactly anyone know?
"General soreness".
Maybe his achilles problem flared up again during training.....
I bloody hope not. Definitely a concern.
I remember reading some time ago that his achilles issue would require management long term, similar to Ivan's groin issue. I'm confident it's just a precautionary thing.
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Apologies people, a few to many drinks on Australia Day. :wallywink
Self imposed week ban for me.
Yes I am an idiot. And have a much deserved sore head today.
Apologies again for my dribble. :thumbsup
It takes a big man.....etc
You ain't Robinson Crusoe on that score, power to you
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I know this isn't going to be popular but I have to ask one question, why is Cotch captain and not Lids after years of him being at the club?
Lids is a follower, end of story.
Has nothing to do with Lids being a "follower" which BTW I don't necessarily agree with
When it comes to the captaincy....
Cotch was always going to be captain, always, end of that story.
Not end of story at all. There has to be reasons why "Cotch was always going to be captain, always" and not Lids and there is no reason why it can't be questioned. I reckon it shows Lids doesn't really have the leadership qualities required. Hell they even had to bring in a new Vice Captain which IMO Lids is lucky they didn't drop him and make Maric the sole VC as they should have, again IMO
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No one is disputing that Lids isn't a gun player, but is there anyone here that actually believes he's gotten anywhere near the best out of himself? He has the capacity to go to a much higher level
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im not going to go here except to say i agree with tm.
while deledio has been very good there are parts of his game that has stopped him becoming an outright superstar in the ablett league. imo he has never ever used his size and speed to the utmost of advantage and just hasnt taken the game on enough.
i dont think he wins enough contested ball hence we have seen him totally eclipsed in games when a hard tag is put on him.he needs a harder edge to his game.
imo he doesnt hunt the player with the ball enough so i have a knock on the defensive side of his game, would love to see him run down players and lay many more tackles or do it more often.. finally imo for the role he performs for us he just doesnt win enough clearances i havent looked but hed be lucky to gey more than 2 or 3 clearances a game.. ive always wanted to see him hit the edges of packs at pace break or evade a tackle and run at the opposition.
look im not saying hes terrible or poor in these areas hes shown he can do all these things well and the odd yr hes done em consistently well. i certainly believe they are areas that can be significantly improved just by doing them more. i suppose thats the frusrating thing we know what hes capable of but we dont get the well rounded version often enough imo.
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No one is disputing that Lids isn't a gun player, but is there anyone here that actually believes he's gotten anywhere near the best out of himself? He has the capacity to go to a much higher level
X2.
If he's such an elite player for our club, where are the string of best and fairests? Only won 2 and that was when there was virtually no competition.
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No one is disputing that Lids isn't a gun player, but is there anyone here that actually believes he's gotten anywhere near the best out of himself? He has the capacity to go to a much higher level
The only person who can truly answer that is Lids.
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No one is disputing that Lids isn't a gun player, but is there anyone here that actually believes he's gotten anywhere near the best out of himself? He has the capacity to go to a much higher level
The only person who can truly answer that is Lids.
Or his coach
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Lids ain't thick enough in the waist. Not enough core strength for that contested ball. Even if he was, he's not tough enough upstairs. He can take a hit, put up with some pain etc, but would never have the balls to get in somebody's face.
Cotch is a better leader but still not good enough.
Captain material for me - Rance or Maric.
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some of the comments on here are quite amusing. really enlightening. NOT
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Very harsh comments in this thread. People have forgotten that Deledio played his first 100 games in a rubbish team that was continually getting flogged by 100 points. Did anyone consider that Brett may have selflessly said to the club that the experience of his first few years of his career may not have shaped him for the job?
On the question of skill, if captaincy went on skill alone Deledio would have won the job hands down then, and still would.
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Very harsh comments in this thread. People have forgotten that Deledio played his first 100 games in a rubbish team that was continually getting flogged by 100 points. Did anyone consider that Brett may have selflessly said to the club that the experience of his first few years of his career may not have shaped him for the job?
On the question of skill, if captaincy went on skill alone Deledio would have won the job hands down then, and still would.
So he's the most skilled player in the team?
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Cotchin would be the best player in the comp if he had Deledio's kicking skills :gotigers
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Cotchin may be a better leader but I honestly believe Deledio is the best player on our list, Jack Dyer medals or not.
He's not immune to criticism but if you bag Lids, you'll bag anyone.
Fantastic skills and highly durable. Every club in the competition would jump at having him on their list in a heartbeat.
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Cotchin & Martin are both better than Deledio and, IMO, Vlastuin will be too.
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Cotchin may be a better leader but I honestly believe Deledio is the best player on our list, Jack Dyer medals or not.
He's not immune to criticism but if you bag Lids, you'll bag anyone.
Fantastic skills and highly durable. Every club in the competition would jump at having him on their list in a heartbeat.
whos bagging anyone.
geez if some of you blokes were coaches your players would never improve because your too afraid to talk about weaknesses or things they could do really well instead of just well.
martins another should be out and out elite. should be one of the best all round mids in the comp but he isnt. there are some areas hes actually poor in mostly defensive issues and the c/p ratio.
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Tigers carefully managing sore Deledio
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
February 11, 2015 12:54 PM
RICHMOND vice-captain Brett Deledio is being carefully managed by the Tigers' fitness staff after developing soreness in his problematic Achilles tendon.
Wary of how much the 27-year-old was affected by the persistent injury when it flared in the early rounds of last season, the Tigers are taking no chances this summer.
Deledio was kept back from this week's community camp visit to East Gippsland, along with captain Trent Cotchin, midfielder Dustin Martin and others dealing with minor ailments.
Cotchin and Martin are managing hamstring soreness and on a specific strength program designed to speed up their recovery.
Deledio was sidelined between rounds three and six last year with the Achilles problem but has admitted he didn't get his speed back until around the round 12 mark.
He was then able to go on and be instrumental in the Tigers' revival, playing a key role forward where he kicked 20 goals for the year.
He's carried the Achilles issue for at least two years and is no stranger to managing it during the summer months.
The Tigers will play their first NAB Challenge match on February 28 against the Western Bulldogs at Whitten Oval.
Coach Damien Hardwick has already said the Tigers would take in a young squad – likely under 23 – for their first game, and bring in the older players later in the series.
Reece Conca (knee), Corey Ellis (foot) and Ben Lennon (hip) are likely to be unavailable for at least the first hit-out.
They're not expecting the hiccups to Deledio, Martin and Cotchin's programs to hinder their preparation for the pre-season competition or round one, which is on April 2 for the Tigers.
"While we understand the importance of engaging with our fans in regional communities, the decision to leave a number of players out of our community camp was made with player welfare and preparation for the season ahead at the forefront of our minds," football manager Dan Richardson told the club's website.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-11/safety-first-for-deledio
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Here we go again....
Star players injured. Star players shopping themselves around...
But don't worry, we are on the up as a club ::)
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why don't these things happen to other clubs?
It's just not worth going on.
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why don't these things happen to other clubs?
It's just not worth going on.
;D
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Good to see all the Debbie downers still residing on here..
No players shopping themselves around except in your heads..LOL
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(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Ignorance+is+bliss_a33ce1_4992841.jpg)
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LOL are you stuffing serious dooks?
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:facepalm
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If he was a racehorse he would have been shot by now.
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They don't look too concerned. While the rest of squad was down in East Gippsland, Lids and Cotch were off shopping together in Chapel St.
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http://instagram.com/p/y6ICI1obXr/?modal=true
http://instagram.com/p/y5zSIcKzza/?modal=true
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Tell me he wasn't wearng that gay stripper piece of material in a public place!
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Unit
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Unit
Would just about turn for him
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If you've got it flaunt it.
Tell me he wasn't wearng that gay stripper piece of material in a public place!
Are you referring to Trent's shorts?
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Lids' singlet is tacky AF, but I still love him
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What's with the hand gesture?
Is he stating how many finals we've won?
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What's with the hand gesture?
Is he stating how many finals we've won?
Nah it's the number of games we are going to lose this year.
Get on board sunshine
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What's with the hand gesture?
Is he stating how many finals we've won?
Nah it's the number of games we are going to lose this year.
Get on board sunshine
8)
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Bent Unit
e.f.a
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Lids' singlet is tacky AF, but I still love him
It's a woman's blouse.
True.
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What's with the hand gesture?
Is he stating how many finals we've won?
No.
How many finals We will win
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Brett Deledio is expected to be fit for AFL season despite ongoing Achilles soreness
Jon Ralph
Herald-Sun
February 20, 2015
RICHMOND has allayed concerns about Brett Deledio’s lingering Achilles soreness, confident it will not delay his start to the season proper.
The 27-year-old missed a month early in 2014 with the problem but returned to put together one of his best seasons for the Tigers.
The issue flared again pre-Christmas and while he has been carefully managed Tigers football boss Dan Richardson says he is now pain-free.
The Tigers this week locked in Dustin Martin until 2017, with Richardson confident the club will sign free agent Alex Rance at some stage in the coming season.
They take on the Western Bulldogs at Whitten Oval next week and will likely play a younger side, but Deledio will play some NAB Challenge games.
“When he is training, he is fine,’’ Richardson said.
“There are no symptoms at all, it is just a management and maintenance issue. He will be right to play NAB Challenge. We feel we have got control of it and are confident it won’t be a problem.”
Richmond have almost a clean bill of health, with Reece Conca back in full training after knee soreness but rookie Matt Thomas held back after post-season knee surgery.
Ruckman Ivan Maric hasn’t missed a beat after surgery for ankle bone spurs forced a late start to 2014, with Chris Knights (knee) also fully fit.
Like many clubs they are in a holding period, anxious for game time but eager to avoid injuries after a horror week for Melbourne’s Christian Petracca and Carlton’s Matthew Kreuzer.
First-round pick Corey Ellis is a month away from full training after foot surgery but fellow draftees Connor Menadue, Nathan Drummond, Dan Butler and even pick No.77 Reece McKenzie have coach Damien Hardwick pleasantly surprised with their progress.
Richardson said some including pacy 67kg wingman Menadue were likely to get some NAB Challenge minutes.
“He has trained well and put himself in the frame. We were criticised through the trade period but it was our strategy to invest heavily and add to midfield depth. We have brought Taylor Hunt in and would expect him to play good senior footy for us and we have achieved our goal.
“Corey Ellis is probably three to four weeks away from full training but he is running and looking fit. Of all our first-year players he is the one that has been restricted the most but he’s not far off being able to resume.”
Richardson said the club was confident in securing Rance’s signature given he had made it clear he was happy at Punt Rd.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledio-is-expected-to-be-fit-for-afl-season-despite-ongoing-achilles-soreness/story-fndv8t7m-1227225919288
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Hardwick said Deledio could have played on Saturday as he manages an ongoing achilles problem, but it was decided to rest him to prevent the issues that beset him last season.
"It's just a management issue," Hardwick said. "We sort of knew from obviously the data we established last year that it was always going to be a situation where he could probably only train twice a week. He'll manage that for the rest of his career.
"It's just really important that Brett gets on track and plays games. That's why we're managing (the) early part of his year.
"He's well and truly up and going. He's in full training now for those two (weekly) sessions and we're excited about the season he's going to have. If you come down and watch our intra-clubs, he's destroying people at the moment."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-26/rance-still-a-chance-hardwick
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Sooks
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Lids was MMM's 'Rush Hour' yesterday arvo ....
AUDIO:
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/shows/rush-hour-with-james-brayshaw-and-billy-brownless/podcasts/the-rush-hour-thursday-19th-march/
or
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-03-20/deledio-on-triple-m-19th-march
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ABC Grandstand @abcgrandstand twitter:
"Brett Deledio says on @abcgrandstand he hopes to return next week for @Richmond_FC as he overcomes a calf injury."
https://twitter.com/abcgrandstand
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I am missing this guy more and more as each round passes
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ABC Grandstand @abcgrandstand twitter:
"Brett Deledio says on @abcgrandstand he hopes to return next week for @Richmond_FC as he overcomes a calf injury."
https://twitter.com/abcgrandstand
No chance of returning this week. It'll be next week or the week after that
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ABC Grandstand @abcgrandstand twitter:
"Brett Deledio says on @abcgrandstand he hopes to return next week for @Richmond_FC as he overcomes a calf injury."
https://twitter.com/abcgrandstand
Hopes = at least another week.
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Hold him back till the Collingwood game. Want to win that one.
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Doc Larkins also said:
- Richmond star Brett Deledio (calf) is "very close" to returning after four weeks on the sidelines and should train at about 80 per cent intensity this week. But he remains in doubt for Saturday's game against North Melbourne at Hobart's Blundstone Arena because of his lack of conditioning.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-04/doc-larkins-injury-update-round-five
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Play him sub
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Badly needed.
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all the more reason to wait at least another week to make sure he is right to go.
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all the more reason to wait at least another week to make sure he is right to go.
'we can break him'
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Deledio could return as a sub against North Melbourne
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
May 5, 2015 4:48 PM
BRETT Deledio says he’s unlikely to play a full game if he returns from a calf injury this week against North Melbourne in Hobart.
The Richmond vice-captain hasn't played since the Tigers' round one win over Carlton and is desperate to face the Kangaroos on Saturday.
However Deledio admitted he would have to "wait and see" how he pulled up from Tuesday's training session before declaring his availability, and said there was a chance he could either start or end the game as a substitute if he played.
"If I pull up really well, then I'll 100 per cent put my hand up," Deledio told the club's website.
"I probably wouldn't play a full game but whether that means I'm vested one way or the other.
"But if that's the way it is, then I'll play my part and I'm happy with that.
"I've got to see how I'll pull up first. Fingers crossed - I'm doing everything right so far."
The 215-game veteran said he would be happy to play for Richmond's VFL side on Saturday at Punt Road against North Ballarat if directed to.
"I'm not above that at all. If I'm required to play there, then I will," he said.
Deledio said he had found it tough being sidelined with the Tigers losing three of their last four games.
He said he expected the team to revert to its pre-season expectation of setting "a high standard" after some costly mistakes in the past month.
"I understand that it is a lot easier (watching) from the stands, but I get very frustrated, more so just with really silly skill errors and things we can control," he said.
"We work so hard to get the ball out of congestion into someone's hands and then they'll drop it or we'll handball to their feet.
"That stuff I can't really accept or cop - not that me coming back is going to change that because you can't control it.
"But I certainly will be expecting a high standard and we've been driving that ourselves as a group the last couple of weeks."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-05/deledio-could-sub-in#sthash.N36PTaUF.dpuf
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That's just saying he should wait another week. If they play him....
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Glad to hear a play say he's not gonna cop basic skill errors like hand balling to feet which we do a lot. Comes back into the side expecting high standards. Maybe he's a better leader than I thiught
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Deledio could return as a sub against North Melbourne
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
May 5, 2015 4:48 PM
The 215-game veteran said he would be happy to play for Richmond's VFL side on Saturday at Punt Road against North Ballarat if directed to.
"I'm not above that at all. If I'm required to play there, then I will," he said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-05/deledio-could-sub-in#sthash.N36PTaUF.dpuf
Chris Newman could learn a thing or two
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Lids' presser today ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-05-18/deledio-press-conference
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Tigers star Brett Deledio owns up to season-opening mistake
Ben Guthrie
afl.com.au
May 18, 2015
BRETT Deledio believes he is over the worst of the calf issues that have hampered the early part of his 2015 campaign.
The star Richmond midfielder aggravated the soleus muscle in his calf in the club's season opener against Carlton, forcing him to miss the next four games.
Deledio played restricted game time in his return against North Melbourne in round six before an outstanding performance against Collingwood on Sunday.
"We're over a bit of a hump now and we can start looking at getting a bit more training under my belt and not missing so many kicks out there like I did on the weekend," Deledio said at a footy clinic at Glen Waverley Secondary College on Monday.
Deledio kicked two clutch final-quarter goals against the Magpies, while helping himself to 30 disposals and 13 marks.
However he conceded he made a mistake in playing against the Blues in round one with a far-from-ideal pre-season preparation.
"I'm still happy I did play because I felt I played my part to help the boys get the win," Deledio said.
"But if I had have known I was going to miss four weeks after that, I probably would've missed."
The Tigers will return to the scene of their elimination final bloodbath, with a meeting against Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval next on the cards on Sunday.
The Power smashed the Tigers by 57 points in September last year, stamping their authority with an eight-goal-to-one opening term.
"It is at the back of your mind because we were embarrassed with how we performed over there, especially on the big stage," Deledio said.
"It's a new year and another game against quality opposition who are coming off a loss."
Trent Cotchin's fateful decision to choose to kick against the wind after winning the toss in that game came back to bite.
"I'll make sure he (Cotchin) knows which way the wind's going," Deledio joked.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-18/tigers-star-brett-deledio-owns-up-to-seasonopening-mistake
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The Deledio difference
Richmond barometer Brett Deledio again proved how influential he is to the Tigers' fortunes. His first quarter was electrifying with 10 touches (5 contested), three marks, two tackles, two clearances and a goal. The hot start meant Richmond was able to control the game. His ability to win the ball in the contest, penetrating kick and clean skills are what make him a star. He finished with 28 possessions (15 contested) and was best afield. Three out of Deledio's four games that he's played this season have been Tigers wins.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-24/five-talking-points-port-adelaide-v-richmond
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Probably our most important player? We are just crap without him.
Need to get another like him in through Free Agency or trade.
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He won't be around forever gotta learn to win without him
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B.O.G. :clapping
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will b a top 10 player in the comp very very soon if they leave him at HF
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he has always been an important cog to RFC and today was no exception. He's been with the club from the absolute darkest days and still his contribution to the club is phenomenal. Really stoked that the rest of the competition and commentators are beginning to see the quality player that is Brett Deledio
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Star forward
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Richmond's Brett Deledio the Robbie Flower of his generation
Michael Gleeson
The Age
May 26, 2015
It's hard to be underrated when you were chosen as the best player of your year. But Brett Deledio is.
Deledio has laboured from the fact he has not proven to be the best player in his draft and has played in a poor team. He has been burdened by an expectation built from his name being called first on footy's true fantasy day.
He has been All Australian only once. Yet Deledio is a star in the truest sense: his team plays significantly better when he is there. They win with him.
If you consider the other No.1 draft picks of this century, Deledio sits comfortably behind Luke Hodge and Nick Riewoldt, but he might well be the next best player. Hodge and Riewoldt have not only talent, ability and class but leadership qualities greater than every other No.1 pick.
It is a matter of taste but Deledio is arguably next, ahead of Brendon Goddard and Adam Cooney. He is a superior player to the Carlton No.1 picks Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs and Matthew Kreuzer, better than Tom Scully but it is unfair to judge him yet against the younger GWS players Lachie Whitfield and Jonathon Patton. Likewise unkind to compare to even younger big forwards Tom Boyd and Paddy McCartin.
David Swallow is in his fifth year and Deledio is the superior player. And of course he comfortably surpasses Jack Watts.
Goddard, and Cooney for that matter, have had the advantage over Deledio that they have played finals and in Goddard's case, grand finals. They have been showcased in the biggest games, they have played in teams of elite ability that help elevate and complement their games.
Deledio has played two finals in 10 years and has not won one. He has been marked according to the company he keeps and the September holidays he has been able to book.
Cooney had a similar burst of speed, but Deledio the superior overhead mark. Like Cooney, Goddard's peak in 2009-10 was at a level higher than Deledio's but the Richmond player has been consistently strong.
Deledio is marked against the fact that while he might be the third or fourth of No.1 picks this century he was perhaps not in the best three players of his draft. Lance Franklin was the best player of that draft, Jarryd Roughead the next best. Deledio might have been the third best but Ryan Griffen and Jordan Lewis could equally have an argument for that place. It is a matter of taste.
Consider what might have flowed if Deledio had been at Hawthorn the past 10 years instead of Lewis.
It is like contemplating whether Marc Murphy, taken at pick one in his year, is superior to Grant Birchall at pick 14 that year. Birchall strikes you as the superior talent but that might in part be because he plays such a crucial role in the best team of this generation and Murphy toils for the poor Blues.
Deledio might be the Robbie Flower of his generation. Flower is the very archetype of the player whose career was not as recognised and decorated as it deserved to be.
Deledio, and Alex Rance, are the Richmond players who more than others affect whether Richmond wins or loses. Their numbers are identical for Tigers players who have played more than 50 games. When Deledio has played, Richmond has won half its games (52 per cent) while without him they have won a quarter of their matches (25 per cent).
His return in the last two rounds has coincided with Richmond turning around their sliding year.
When the game was to be won last week he went forward, took marks and kicked the goals that needed to be kicked. He did it in the clutch moments and had a similar impact against Port on Sunday.
He is a difficult player because of his pace and strength overhead so when he led from the goal square, key defenders could not keep pace and small defenders could not reach to spoil.
This year he has moved forward for longer – 23 per cent of his time now is as a leading target forward and so consequently in the last two games he has had 18 score involvements, which is the most of any Tiger.
He is the first among Tigers.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmonds-brett-deledio-the-robbie-flower-of-his-generation-20150525-gh9aq3.html
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Here we go ::)
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I am starting to believe that Deledio can in fact walk on water.
His game against Collingwood was epic.
His involvement in the match winning Vickery goal was all class and showed incredible strength.
I love Cotch - but maybe a mistake was made - Lids should be captain.
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I am starting to believe that Deledio can in fact walk on water.
His game against Collingwood was epic.
His involvement in the match winning Vickery goal was all class and showed incredible strength.
I love Cotch - but maybe a mistake was made - Lids should be captain.
Maybe they thought Cotch had the all-round package to represent the club on & off the field.
Lids unfortunately isn't the most eloquent speaker going around which never mattered in our day but in today's environment can make a huge difference to the choice of who's captain.
We also support a club that loves to breed the administrator types.
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I am starting to believe that Deledio can in fact walk on water.
His game against Collingwood was epic.
His involvement in the match winning Vickery goal was all class and showed incredible strength.
I love Cotch - but maybe a mistake was made - Lids should be captain.
Best player doesn't have to be your captain.
Matured into an absolute jet on the field, burden of captaincy may have hampered this.
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One of the if not the best contested mark we have in the team, will usually win a one on one contest and most times is reliable and penetrating by foot, very important player, cannot afford for him to be injured as historical win/loss data clearly shows.
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:facepalm
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Comparing Deledio to Robert Flower :snidegrin Seriously you are on something Glesson
Robert Flower was in another above class.
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just always got to be the detractors doesn't there
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I'm just waiting for the heavy tag to move from Cotchin to Lids. Then it will be Cotchins turn to walk on water. Maybe we can compare Cotch to Ian Stewart.
Of course both could work harder under a tag and couple with more protection from our 2nd tier mids be equally elevated to exalted status in the game. It sounds hard but.
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just always got to be the detractors doesn't there
Settle petal....Flower was an all-time great, hardly an insult to say he was a class above Deledio.
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I am starting to believe that Deledio can in fact walk on water.
His game against Collingwood was epic.
His involvement in the match winning Vickery goal was all class and showed incredible strength.
I love Cotch - but maybe a mistake was made - Lids should be captain.
When Cotchin made 'that' goal, at the end, winning it on a wing and working it forward for tyrone
it was deledio that beat 3 people at CHF to handball it back to cotch
lids is a jet :bow
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Can someone let me know when it's time to hate him again. Everyone seems to back flip on and off this block every year :sleep
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Can someone let me know when it's time to hate him again. Everyone seems to back flip on and off this block every year :sleep
Also please advise on Cotchin and Edwards
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Can someone let me know when it's time to hate him again. Everyone seems to back flip on and off this block every year :sleep
Also please advise on Cotchin and Edwards
Some blokes like Vickery should count themselves lucky that they are hated all the time.
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I've always held Deledio in high regard. The guy comes to our club when virtually the rest of the midfield was absolute poo. He endured the Wallace years where game plans changed as frequently as I change underwear and in a team which had no sustained success. Furthermore he was thrown at half back and had to learn that position from scratch.
The fact he chose not to leave the club and still consistently contributes to the scoreboard directly as well as indirectly is a testament to his playing ability and character.
I understand a lot of people are upset he isn't in the same league as Pendlebury and to that I say Pendlebury had Dane Swan in his 4th year to learn from/take the heat off from. Had Lids went to Hawthorn and played along Hodge and Mitchell he would have the Brownlow by now.
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Can someone let me know when it's time to hate him again. Everyone seems to back flip on and off this block every year :sleep
Also please advise on Cotchin and Edwards
:lol
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Star forward
if we had a good mid / backline, he should of been forward last 10 years
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he must have nathan brown 2005 numbers of late
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I've always held Deledio in high regard. The guy comes to our club when virtually the rest of the midfield was absolute pooe. He endured the Wallace years where game plans changed as frequently as I change underwear and in a team which had no sustained success. Furthermore he was thrown at half back and had to learn that position from scratch.
The fact he chose not to leave the club and still consistently contributes to the scoreboard directly as well as indirectly is a testament to his playing ability and character.
I understand a lot of people are upset he isn't in the same league as Pendlebury and to that I say Pendlebury had Dane Swan in his 4th year to learn from/take the heat off from. Had Lids went to Hawthorn and played along Hodge and Mitchell he would have the Brownlow by now.
there is a lot of truth in that. Deledio will rightly go down as a great of our club. 200games plus mostly in crap sides being belted by the opposition because as a kid he was our best player by the length of the Flemington strait. Well done to him hopefully we can manage him through the next 3 to 5 years and we could get another 100 games out of him.
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I've always held Deledio in high regard. The guy comes to our club when virtually the rest of the midfield was absolute pooe. He endured the Wallace years where game plans changed as frequently as I change underwear and in a team which had no sustained success. Furthermore he was thrown at half back and had to learn that position from scratch.
The fact he chose not to leave the club and still consistently contributes to the scoreboard directly as well as indirectly is a testament to his playing ability and character.
I understand a lot of people are upset he isn't in the same league as Pendlebury and to that I say Pendlebury had Dane Swan in his 4th year to learn from/take the heat off from. Had Lids went to Hawthorn and played along Hodge and Mitchell he would have the Brownlow by now.
leave him in the forward pocket next ten years
only guy that doesnt have to chase
there is a lot of truth in that. Deledio will rightly go down as a great of our club. 200games plus mostly in crap sides being belted by the opposition because as a kid he was our best player by the length of the Flemington strait. Well done to him hopefully we can manage him through the next 3 to 5 years and we could get another 100 games out of him.
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Looked quite hampered last night but still was one of our best.
All class.
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should be given the next preseason off IMHO. Rest him bring him back for a shorter 2016 for him and keep him going for another 4 or 5 years. Great player who deserves better from our supporters.
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Highly underrated
As smooth as silk
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Not underrated by me
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Gun.
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Was huge tonight. Kicked an important goal too, straight after the interchange infringement to keep the momentum going. That was critical. :thumbsup
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Better than judd
Cause he got a contested mark
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Highly underrated
As smooth as silk
Only by people who don't know anything about footy. I have him in the Matthew Richardson category in terms of Richmond players. Champions. Lets hope Deledio gets a flag. Richo never got one but deserved one. Deledio is a Richmond Champion and its about time our supporters gave him the recognition he deserves.
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People have questioned his four quarter efforts & consistency over the years and rightly so at times, don't think anyone has ever underrated his ability or importance to the side....often found himself carrying us from virtually the moment he arrived, no surprise it occasionaly wore him down and got the better of him....was never nearly as bad as some of the criticism Cotchin cops from the more clueless of our supporters...
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Can take a great contested mark every week. Shame he has had to be used too plug gaps in the side down defence which has cost his best football IMV
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Highly underrated
As smooth as silk
Only by people who don't know anything about footy. I have him in the Matthew Richardson category in terms of Richmond players. Champions. Lets hope Deledio gets a flag. Richo never got one but deserved one. Deledio is a Richmond Champion and its about time our supporters gave him the recognition he deserves.
Who doesn't rate him????
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Highly underrated
As smooth as silk
Only by people who don't know anything about footy. I have him in the Matthew Richardson category in terms of Richmond players. Champions. Lets hope Deledio gets a flag. Richo never got one but deserved one. Deledio is a Richmond Champion and its about time our supporters gave him the recognition he deserves.
Who doesn't rate him????
Non-richmond fans
I was assuming
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Overhead marking is just tremendous
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I had him B.O.G. for us tonight. Showed his class above in what was mostly a terribly sloppy and error-riddened game by both sides.
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Played solidly tonight. was involved in quite a few scoring chains and kicked a few himself as well. definitely one of our better players tonight
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His class was evident tonight.
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Gun. Complete player
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Gun. Complete player
Well said
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Deledio drives victory ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-07-19/round-16-deledio-drives-victory
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SEN - "Great to chat with @BrettDeledio03 this morning and get all the inside info on his @Richmond_FC team mates, ICYMI:"
AUDIO: https://audioboom.com/boos/3390690-brett-deledio-on-morning-glory
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would probably have won a Brownlow playing for Hawks or Swans, we are very lucky to have him.
:bow :bow
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more likely he would have won a premiership.
he's unlucky we have him
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To much vote stealing in the good teams, more likely to win one with us
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Tim Cahill is on course to be voted Australia's greatest athlete of the last 25 years.
The Everton legend is current leading cricketing legend Shane Warne and Olympic champions Ian Thorpe and Cathy Freeman in the vote launched by Fox Sports,
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-legend-tim-cahill-leads-6113427
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:shh
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How good is this guy?
Amazing player.
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How good is this guy?
Amazing player.
Rolls Royce :cheers
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I'll admit I thought we might be seeing a big drop from him with his calf/achilles issues but so far he's proving me wrong :thumbsup. Let's hope he can still string lots of games together when it counts
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I'll admit I thought we might be seeing a big drop from him with his calf/achilles issues but so far he's proving me wrong :thumbsup. Let's hope he can still string lots of games together when it counts
I think he is making more of getting less possessions in the forward. Seems really suited down there and would be a real headache for opposition to match up on.
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Significantly better than roughead. Franklin. Griffiths. Lewis amd co. for mine
Most silky player in his draft pool
Bit like lebron james class above
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He has got at least another 5 years in him if we play him mostly at half forward. He is just a great player.
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how many 3 vote games has Deledio had?
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how many 3 vote games has Deledio had?
Lids has missed 5 games this year (4 were losses out of interest) which will limit his Brownlow votes. Not sure how many 3 votes he's had but our record this year with Lids in the team is 14-3.
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Absolute rock last night, great team game, BOG.
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Top 10 player in the comp?
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Top 10 player in the comp?
Better ...
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Brett Deledio’s elite numbers present match-up headache for North Melbourne
Herald-Sun
September 10, 2015 2:53PM
WATCHING his finals opponent from behind glass last Friday night, two players stood out to North Melbourne veteran Nick Dal Santo.
“We didn’t really take many notes, just tried to get a feel for their midfield and I got more of an appreciation for particularly Deledio and Martin,” he told Triple M.
“The way they played last night I hope I’m not playing on either of those two guys.”
Ben Jacobs ran with Martin for periods and is likely to get the job again in Sunday’s elimination final.
Deledio is a different story.
His speed, flexibility, strength above his head and skills on the ground make him an almost impossible match-up — for the Kangaroos or any other team.
Luke McDonald spent more time on him than anyone else in Round 23, but he’s every chance to be dropped this week. Michael Firrito could get the assignment, but is he quick enough? The same problem faces Scott Thompson while the likes of Shaun Atley could be exposed overhead.
Since Round 7, when Richmond turned its season around with a win against Collingwood — thanks in no small part to two clutch Deledio goals in the final term — the 2004 No.1 draft pick has produced numbers that rank him in the absolute elite of the competition.
He ranks fourth in that time for average SuperCoach points, behind Todd Goldstein, Patrick Dangerfield and Nat Fyfe.
He is second in the competition for score involvements, behind only Coleman medallist Josh Kennedy. On Friday night he had 14 — anything above 10 is considered outstanding.
His stat line on Friday night read: 26 disposals at 81 per cent efficiency, 10 marks (equal most for Richmond), nine inside-50s, a goal and a game-high 133 SuperCoach points.
Deledio received a perfect 10 coaches’ votes and a few days later was named in the 40-man All-Australian squad, despite missing four games at the start of the year with a calf or Achilles injury, depending who you listen to.
Richmond’s struggles without Deledio in the team have been well documented — since 2008 he has missed nine matches and the Tigers have won just two of them, both against Brisbane.
But that can be explained by a couple of simple factors. The first is that Deledio is remarkably durable, missing just four games in the 10 years after his debut in 2005.
The second is that Deledio is simply one of the competition’s elite players, a fact the footy world is waking up now — six years after he won back-to-back Jack Dyer Medals.
AVERAGE SUPERCOACH POINTS ROUND 7-23
133 Todd Goldstein
127 Patrick Dangerfield
122 Nat Fyfe
119 Brett Deledio
119 Dayne Beams
AVERAGE SCORE INVOLVEMENTS ROUND 7-23
1. Josh Kennedy 8.9
2. Brett Deledio 8.7
3. Jarryd Roughead 8.7
4. Sam Mitchell 8.4
5. Jack Gunston 8.1
WHERE DELEDIO RANKS AT RICHMOND (R7-23)
SuperCoach points 1st
Disposals 5th
Marks on lead 2nd
Inside-50s 2nd
Score involvements 1st
Score assists 2nd
Goals 3rd
Stats: Champion Data
http://www.news.com.au/national/afl-finals-2015-brett-deledios-elite-numbers-present-match-up-headache-for-north-melbourne/story-e6frfkp9-1227521259739
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Who can stop Deledio? Only Deledio mind can stop him.
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the midfield and defenders can stop deledio
if hes playing forward and the ball doesnt go there not much he can do
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Worst game ever. :banghead :banghead
Not good enough and should be ashamed of himself. Great season was wasted in just one ordinary game. If you play ordinary don't do it in a final because youve achieved nothing until you can perform in finals.
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That's right.
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a terrible performance. no where when we needed him.
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forward or back or middle 2016 ?
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left or right
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Flank or pocket?
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left or right
You really need to ask Bent Judge that?
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Floater, hit up forward and at times high HF as an extra mid. Basically what he's been doing the past 18 months - never had more impact on games than he is playing this role
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Floater, hit up forward and at times high HF as an extra mid. Basically what he's been doing the past 18 months - never had more impact on games than he is playing this role
In hind site would you have played him in defense for the elimination finals ? given the unraveling shambles that continues to unfold
if we have a midfield and defense strong enough to have the luxury of playing lids forward thats good. hopefully we do with c ellis, rioli, vlastuin, yarren types , now
one of the lesser hbf options, should come good too - given the number of them ie. Menadue, CantStandYa
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Nah still would've lost, the issue was the ruck and the midfield
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Nah still would've lost, the issue was the ruck and the midfield
yep, and the best player in the team was were the ball was not for most the game
by 100 or so meters
and he also happens to be the best back pocket / sweeper in the game
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The issues you raise is one of the reasons I wanted Ben Crocker with our second pick...
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The way he played he would of pooted himself in the back half. Just didn't do anything
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Nah still would've lost, the issue was the ruck and the midfield
yep, and the best player in the team was were the ball was not for most the game
by 100 or so meters
and he also happens to be the best back pocket / sweeper in the game
Has more impact playing fwd
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*if the rest of the team can make the ball go there
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Deledio targeting Round 1
richmondfc.com.au
February 13, 2016
Star Richmond playmaker Brett Deledio has been on a modified program throughout the pre-season, as he manages on-going issues with his Achilles tendon.
The 28-year-old veteran of 232 league games, however, is confident he’ll be raring to go for the Tigers’ 2016 opening round clash with Carlton on March 24.
“Once we get on top of them and the season starts, it’s a lot easier to maintain what I’ve got to do week to week,” Deledio told Channel Nine.
“I’d be surprised if I wasn’t ready to go at least by NAB 2.
“I hope so. It feels like we’ve been training forever.”
Deledio, who is entering his 12th season of AFL football, missed five games last year through injury – four of them in-a-row from Round 2-5.
Despite that, the dual Jack Dyer Medallist still managed to finish third in the Club’s 2015 Best and Fairest award.
He also gained selection in the All-Australian side for the second time in his league career.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-02-13/deledio-targeting-round-1
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Let's hope he saves his best for finals footy.
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A rare positive last night was Lids getting through a half unscathed. We'll probably need him to spend more time up forward with Titch now out.
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A rare positive last night was Lids getting through a half unscathed. We'll probably need him to spend more time up forward with Titch now out.
At the ground he looked really slow at times but at least he got through
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Seemed very average
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Every time he gives the ball to a team mate
They fumble the ball
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Only a B grader according to Campbell Brown
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Who ironically himself was a c grader
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Omfg what a mark
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Tackling like a boss
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:shh
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Lids on AFL Tonight last night:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-05-26/deledio-on-afl-tonight
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“We knew that the hard work was starting to pay off, and the wheel was starting to turn for us, but we’ve still got plenty of hard work in front of us,” Deledio said on Fox Footy’s ‘AFL Tonight’ program.
“We’ve got a big challenge ahead of us (against Essendon) and we’ve got to play good footy. I think most teams will say that’s what you’ve got to do to win each week,” he said.
“So, (it’s a) big challenge, but nothing better than ‘Dreamtime at the ‘G’ on Saturday night . . .
“We’ve had two good wins, but we need to get the job done this week.
“That’s where all our focus is at the moment.
“We’ll just hopefully get the job done this week, and then we’ll move on to the one after that.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-26/tigers-sole-focus-is-dreamtime
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Is this the key to Richmond’s finals hopes?
News Ltd
May 29, 2016
RICHMOND’S sudden upturn in form should be of no surprise.
It has, once again, coincided with the return of star utility Brett Deledio.
In assessing Deledio’s importance to the Tigers, look no further than to analyse the team’s form when he is not in the side.
Having battled injury issues that limited his pre-season and ruled him out of the first five matches in 2016, Richmond limped to a disastrous 1-6 start.
However, such a disappointing opening to the club’s campaign was no anomaly.
The Tigers were 3-10 before racing into the finals in 2014 and finished fifth despite a 2-4 start last year.
The common trend? Deledio’s absence.
An ankle injury sidelined the experienced Tiger for a month early in 2014, while suspension, achilles and calf injuries kept him out of four games to begin 2015.
It was achilles and quad problems, sustained during pre-season, that hindered Deledio’s start to the club’s current campaign.
Now back and once again in full flight, both Deledio and the Tigers are looking like the prospects the yellow and black faithful had hoped to see in 2016.
While Richmond isn’t entirely dependent on Deledio — the side’s 38-point victory over Essendon had a number of key contributors — his influence is telling.
The 29-year-old adds poise in possession, class in important areas and an ability to impact the match in a range of different positions on the field.
He is the polish the Tigers lacked in the first two months of the season. He is also the player able to swing a game when it counts.
Deledio celebrates one of his three goals.
In Saturday’s Dreamtime match at the MCG, Deledio produced an opening term that went a long way to killing the game as a contest before it had kicked off in earnest.
That was despite illness keeping him from the team’s final training session prior to the game on Thursday.
Spending the majority of his time floating across half forward, Deledio had racked up 10 disposals and kicked two goals by the first change.
Inevitable fears over an upset only Richmond could manage were alleviated before they could even enter the minds of Tiger fans.
He finished with 23 touches, seven marks and three goals.
Although it was only his fifth match for the year, it wasn’t the first time Deledio had produced a significant contribution at a telling time in a game.
In an after-the-siren win over Sydney, the team’s second of the season and one that could still prove to be a defining moment in the club’s year, Deledio had 25 disposals to half time.
It kept Richmond in the contest and enabled them to be in a position to achieve what was an unlikely upset win at the death.
Unable to kick beyond 30m due to quadriceps issues earlier in the year, it took Deledio hardly any time to settle when rushed back into the senior side.
A tidy 22-disposal effort against Port Adelaide in his first match back was perhaps overshadowed by a lethargic team display that resulted in another defeat in Round 6.
On Saturday evening, that wouldn’t be the case, as the Tigers took control of the match from the outset on the back of Deledio’s first-quarter showing.
The performances of Dustin Martin (38 disposals and 10 marks), Trent Cotchin (29 disposals and two goals) and Brandon Ellis (30 disposals) might have been enough to earn the Brownlow votes.
But Deledio’s impact, as it has been throughout the last three years, was the most significant, the most influential and — in the case of Richmond’s season — perhaps the most defining.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/why-star-tiger-utility-brett-deledio-is-the-key-to-richmonds-finals-hopes-after-third-straight-win/news-story/70efb71128692f40150207bf35593ce4
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so can anybody categorically confirm he has a chronic achilles problem?
bc for the past 3 preseason all Im hearing is he has an achilles problem that wont get better hence the soft approach in preseason, he looks like an old man for the first 2-3 games then starts moving like he did last night for the rest of the season. Seems fine to me :huh
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so can anybody categorically confirm he has a chronic achilles problem?
bc for the past 3 preseason all Im hearing is he has an achilles problem that wont get better hence the soft approach in preseason, he looks like an old man for the first 2-3 games then starts moving like he did last night for the rest of the season. Seems fine to me :huh
They've publicly said it it's a recurring type injury that flairs up at certain times which happens to be pre season/early season
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Finey was making the point last night (and this one I actually agreed with) that its just as much that when you have those three A graders playing together it makes it impossible for the opp to cover all three, so one or two is going to get off the leash. I think that's probably got a lot to do with why Deledio's inclusion is so poignant. He frees up our other two A grade players, although he doesn't run through the midfield like he used to.
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I still think Lids can play in the middle. he still hasn't lost his speed and the Sydney game shows he is pretty good in the contest also.
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How good was the fake handball to buy himself another moment when running into goal
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was pretty stock standard tbh
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Our only really classy player….. :shh
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quite happy to see him launch a kick for goal from outside 50. That is the lids we need if we are going to make the 8
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so nobody else thinks it strange that at the beginning of the past 3 seasons hes looked like a struggling 45 year old that can barely get out of second gear and as the season progresses he looks like a ferrari again? I dont think its a chronic injury, i simply think theyre over managing him ie under preparing him each preseason which is then causing these soft tissue injuries. If it was a chronic injury hed be struggling during the rigors of an afl season. Just my 2 cents worth - something doesnt seem right with this one
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was pretty stock standard tbh
Yeh for lids ...
Hamspud or Chaplin would of fallen over
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so nobody else thinks it strange that at the beginning of the past 3 seasons hes looked like a struggling 45 year old that can barely get out of second gear and as the season progresses he looks like a ferrari again? I dont think its a chronic injury, i simply think theyre over managing him ie under preparing him each preseason which is then causing these soft tissue injuries. If it was a chronic injury hed be struggling during the rigors of an afl season. Just my 2 cents worth - something doesnt seem right with this one
Dunno If they should be letting him squat 600kgs tbh
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so nobody else thinks it strange that at the beginning of the past 3 seasons hes looked like a struggling 45 year old that can barely get out of second gear and as the season progresses he looks like a ferrari again? I dont think its a chronic injury, i simply think theyre over managing him ie under preparing him each preseason which is then causing these soft tissue injuries. If it was a chronic injury hed be struggling during the rigors of an afl season. Just my 2 cents worth - something doesnt seem right with this one
Dunno If they should be letting him squat 600kgs tbh
agree that was stuffing ridiculous and I dont buy for a second that that wasnt the cause of the quad injury
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Looked cool but
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Dudes done that 100 times over and if we're going to stop the guys from ever pushing themselves in the gym then we might as well turn it in because we'll never improve.
I also think you're clutching at straws re: over managing him.
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Bloody terrible game from our most gifted player.
Should hang his head in shame. This performance isn't good enough and he should be told that this type of output isnt tolerated at Richmond.
But instead he will get a pat on the back like the rest of them and told well done!
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Bloody terrible game from our most gifted player.
Should hang his head in shame. This performance isn't good enough and he should be told that this type of output isnt toleratedat Richmond.
But instead he will get a pat on the back like the rest of theme song told well done!
:clapping the worst performance i have seen from him.....lazy and scared to fight tonight!
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Bloody terrible game from our most gifted player.
Should hang his head in shame. This performance isn't good enough and he should be told that this type of output isnt toleratedat Richmond.
But instead he will get a pat on the back like the rest of theme song told well done!
:clapping the worst performance i have seen from him.....lazy and scared to fight tonight!
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Think he is shot mentally and physically to be honest. We need to trade him next year while he has a little currency.
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Think he is shot mentally and physically to be honest. We need to trade him next year while he has a little currency.
Must be traded, soft weak performance! Can't stick a tackle and won't run hard enough to chase or create. Just a lazy Prima Donna that's more concerned about how he looks than playing tough honest footy. A product of Hardwicks love ins
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Think he is shot mentally and physically to be honest. We need to trade him next year while he has a little currency.
Must be traded, soft weak performance! Can't stick a tackle and won't run hard enough to chase or create. Just a lazy Prima Donna that's more concerned about how he looks than playing tough honest footy. A product of Hardwicks love ins
you people are amusing, you'd turn on your own mother. Certainly not his best but I'm sure any of you would take 24 possies ,10 contested, 4 tackles and a goal if you were playing.
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Sorry dogged he was terrible tonight
He is our vice captain and his efforts showed no leadership. To allow Petrie to dance around him in the 1st like he did, and let him to break the tackle sent a terrible message
And it went downhill from there..
And most people know i dont get seduced by stats, it isn't always about how many you get but what you do with them . And TBBH he didnt do much with them tonight
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Squats to pee. Always has unfortunately.
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bit harsh - yes I agree 100% with WP that his effort in allowing petrie to dance past him was unacceptable, but reckon somne of you are going OTT here
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bit harsh - yes I agree 100% with WP that his effort in allowing petrie to dance past him was unacceptable, but reckon somne of you are going OTT here
He was poohouse Tone.
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yeah he was
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Think he is shot mentally and physically to be honest. We need to trade him next year while he has a little currency.
Must be traded, soft weak performance! Can't stick a tackle and won't run hard enough to chase or create. Just a lazy Prima Donna that's more concerned about how he looks than playing tough honest footy. A product of Hardwicks love ins
you people are amusing, you'd turn on your own mother. Certainly not his best but I'm sure any of you would take 24 possies ,10 contested, 4 tackles and a goal if you were playing.
Grigg had 38
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....and was even worse....
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Terrible game. Holy poo that was pathetic.
Definitely think about trading
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I've been vocal in the past of how much i love Lids and how much respect I have for him so I think it is only fair to chime in when he has a less than spectacular game. I was on a flight so didn't get to watch it but from the limited highlights i saw he looked a bit flat footed for reasons i can't comprehend. Hoping its an abbberation because like Martin, Cotch really needed him last night.
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Think he is shot mentally and physically to be honest. We need to trade him next year while he has a little currency.
Must be traded, soft weak performance! Can't stick a tackle and won't run hard enough to chase or create. Just a lazy Prima Donna that's more concerned about how he looks than playing tough honest footy. A product of Hardwicks love ins
you people are amusing, you'd turn on your own mother. Certainly not his best but I'm sure any of you would take 24 possies ,10 contested, 4 tackles and a goal if you were playing.
Grigg had 38
FFS, I didn't hardly notice any of them. That's incredible. The invisible 38 possession game!
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bit harsh - yes I agree 100% with WP that his effort in allowing petrie to dance past him was unacceptable, but reckon somne of you are going OTT here
agree. With all the talk of trading players, there will be no-one left
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bit harsh - yes I agree 100% with WP that his effort in allowing petrie to dance past him was unacceptable, but reckon somne of you are going OTT here
He was poohouse Tone.
He was ordinary and that effort on Petrie was poor, however, I would still have had him in our top 6. Players with talent (that hasn't been ripped away from them by the RFC) aren't the issue. I'm not big on this on field leadership issue either. Over played. Poor coaching and development has resulted in poor talent. It's pretty simple.
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So what Deledio had a poor game. That's really the least of our concerns. He's been a champion for the club and would be absolutely fed up with the crap he's had to deal with. Finally we get a promising list, finish top 8 3 years in a row and still nothing changes in the culture. Not enough people wanna get dirty and do the hard stuff on our team.
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Think he is shot mentally and physically to be honest. We need to trade him next year while he has a little currency.
Must be traded, soft weak performance! Can't stick a tackle and won't run hard enough to chase or create. Just a lazy Prima Donna that's more concerned about how he looks than playing tough honest footy. A product of Hardwicks love ins
you people are amusing, you'd turn on your own mother. Certainly not his best but I'm sure any of you would take 24 possies ,10 contested, 4 tackles and a goal if you were playing.
Grigg had 38
FFS, I didn't hardly notice any of them. That's incredible. The invisible 38 possession game!
Deadset spud is grigg
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So what Deledio had a poor game. That's really the least of our concerns. He's been a champion for the club and would be absolutely fed up with the crap he's had to deal with. Finally we get a promising list, finish top 8 3 years in a row and still nothing changes in the culture. Not enough people wanna get dirty and do the hard stuff on our team.
To accept this from a leader is a contributer to the current culture issue. This is why we are where we are currently.
No accountability and constant back slapping doesn't demand the very best at every opportunity.
Leaders should ALWAYS lead by example and there's NO excuse good enough not too. It's what makes middle of the road teams better teams.
Hardwick set the tone for this years standard at Nab cup 3. This gave all the softies in our team an excuse to give up when the chips are down.
If the EF loss to 9th place ScumCheats wasn't enough for everyone to realise Dumma wasn't the One to take us to the promise land or the Tommy Hafey tribute loss debacle, then the sight of him waving his arms on the sidelines vs Port nab 3 should've provided all the evidence required.
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Richmond star Brett Deledio’s name appears on an exclusive list of AFL players after 14 rounds of the 2016 season.
Deledio is one of just 11 players in the competition averaging more than 20 disposals and a goal a game (minimum of five games played).
The 29-year-old veteran of 240 games with the Tigers has an average of 22.9 disposals and 1.1 goals in eight appearances this season, following his delayed start because of a quadriceps injury.
Full article and list of 11 here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-06-29/deledios-elite-status
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Reports on twitter he is out indefinitely.
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Out for year
Lennon injured as well
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Can anyone confirm who is out for the year and can they do it on multiple threads please
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Can anyone confirm who is out for the year and can they do it on multiple threads please
Both out for year
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Gone for the season...
Deledio to miss remainder of 2016
richmondfc.com.au August 10, 2016 3:55 PM
Richmond utility Brett Deledio will miss the remainder of the 2016 season after being unable to overcome the calf injury he sustained in Round 17.
While the 29-year-old hasn’t suffered a setback, the persistent injury has restricted his ability to progress his running program to the point that he’s available to play.
Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Dan Richardson said that while Deledio is disappointed, he’s now focused on preparing for a full pre-season in readiness for the 2017 home-and-away season.
“Brett loves to compete with his teammates each week, but unfortunately he won’t make it back in time to play this season,” Richardson said.
“Brett’s an outstanding leader both on and off the field, and an important player in our team; we look forward to him being available for the start of pre-season.”
“We’re confident with a full pre-season we’ll see Brett playing more consistently next year, after missing a number of games this season due to injury.”
Deledio sustained the injury during Richmond’s Round 17 win over Essendon, he did not complete the match after experiencing calf soreness during the half-time break
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-08-10/deledio-update
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Good news. Let's get him primed for 2017.
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Good news. Let's get him primed for 2017.
:lol
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Will be like a new recruit next year.
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Just lost half his trade value
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Better keep him then
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not necessarily a bad thing. The guy went through an uninjured streak and was carrying a bunch of poo players for a very long time. There is no reason why lids can't hit 350 games if we look after him. If harvey can break the AFL games record then Lids can break 350 as a HF if the club is responsiblein how that manage his body
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The tank is back on
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Damaged him by expecting too much from him & playing him down the halfback line. He should remain up forward
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This just gives the club an opportunity to give someone else a chance.
Yeh.....ok.....
The iceberg cometh
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TRADE
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Richmond star Brett Deledio's Punt Road future uncertain
Sam McClure
The Age
14th September 2016
Brett Deledio's future at Richmond remains in doubt amidst suggestions the veteran is disenchanted with the club following the Tigers' dismal 2016.
Deledio's manager, Anthony McConville, has refused to confirm or deny whether the 29-year-old would consider playing elsewhere in 2017, despite one year remaining on his five-year contract, understood to be worth $3 million.
The shake-up at Tigerland, which accompanied the team's on-field capitulation has placed coach Damien Hardwick under growing pressure and forced a number of significant personnel changes at the club.
While Monday's appointment of Neil Balme to the helm of the football department ended weeks of speculation surrounding those changes, reports of player dissatisfaction have continued.
Fairfax Media understands Deledio has been seriously considering his future having been repeatedly linked to trade talk.
The two-time Jack Dyer Medallist, who turns 30 next April, is believed to have become disillusioned with the club's fortunes and could be open to offers from other clubs.
Deledio played just 11 games this year after more problems with his troublesome Achilles.
When contacted this week, McConville repeatedly refused to make any comment surrounding Deledio's future.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale said he had no knowledge of Deledio's disenchantment and said he expected Deledio would remain at Punt Road next season.
Teammate Jack Riewoldt was emphatic at the Best-and-Fairest count last week that Deledio had no plans to depart the club he has played at for the past 12 seasons.
And yet Deledio's name continues to surface in pre-trade speculation, with preliminary finalists Geelong and Greater Western Sydney believed to be keeping a close eye on the situation.
Riewoldt is another key player who has voiced his dissatisfaction as Richmond's disappointing 2016 moved to an embarrassing finale.
As suggestions of player concern with the Tigers' coaches continue to surround the club, Richmond have already released three assistant coaches with further changes expected.
Daniel Richardson will now report to new football boss Balme in one of a raft of changes, which included a recruiting shake-up and changes to the high performance team.
The club will also put in place a new leadership program, following the acrimonious departure of Gerard Murphy in May.
Deledio played all 22 games in his debut season in 2005 and his body has held up incredibly well for the vast majority of his career.
Despite missing five games in 2015 through injury and suspension, he was named All-Australian for the second time of his career.
He was significantly hampered by injury this season, managing just half the games - a loss that was strongly felt by his club, which has a terrible win/loss record when he's not in the team.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-star-brett-deledios-punt-road-future-uncertain-20160913-grfkkc.html
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Wouldn't blame him, fancy playing that game style under Hardwick, surprised he has any players left.
Hope he leaves and wins a flag somewhere cos the only thing he will win next year at RFC will be a spoon.
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:thumbsdown
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I have heard Deledio scoff at suggestions he may leave tigerland at least 5 times since July .
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We are not supporting an NGO! It is a horribly under-achieving football club! Any half decent recruitment plan would include offloading Deledio for the highest pick we could get, possibly end of 1st round.
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We are not supporting an NGO! It is a horribly under-achieving football club! Any half decent recruitment plan would include offloading Deledio for the highest pick we could get, possibly end of 1st round.
:clapping
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Wouldn't blame him, fancy playing that game style under Hardwick, surprised he has any players left.
Hope he leaves and wins a flag somewhere cos the only thing he will win next year at RFC will be a spoon.
Would win a Coleman elsewhere :whistle
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2017 should be hilarious
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Matthew Richardson questions whether Brett Deledio is 'feeling the love' at Richmond
Jake Bourke
3AW
September 14, 2016 - 6:38PM
Richmond great Matthew Richardson admits he's not convinced Brett Deledio will be at the club next season.
He questioned whether his former teammate was currently "feeling the love" at Tigerland.
Deledio has been thrown up as a possible trade target this summer as the Tigers regroup from an unexpectedly poor season.
Richardson said on 3AW the lack of conviction surrounding Deledio's future at Richmond from both player and club suggested something was going on.
"If you listen to the language coming from his manager – from the footy club – nobody seems to be able to be categorical on it?" Richardson questioned on Sports Today.
"Yet, he's got a contract?
"I'm just wondering whether 'Lids' is just not feeling the love from Richmond at the moment."
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/matthew-richardson-questions-whether-brett-deledio-is-feeling-the-love-at-richmond-20160914-grggsn.html
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Hopefully Balme's appointment will put an end to the speculation.
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Personally I'd hate him to leave, on sen yesterday said he wasn't so I'll take that ATM.
But I really couldn't blame the guy if he did :(
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Hopefully Balme's appointment will put an end to the speculation.
Yep
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Brett Deledio yet to watch Richmond Tigers' grand final win
John Salvado
The Age
19 October 2017
Former Richmond superstar Brett Deledio was unable to bring himself to watch the Tigers' remarkable AFL premiership triumph, fearful of how it would mentally affect him.
The two-time All-Australian and Richmond life member was traded to Greater Western Sydney at the end of the 2016 season, sensing he would have fallen out of love with the game had he remained at the club which drafted him at pick No.1 in 2004.
A serious calf injury meant Deledio did not play his first senior match for the Giants until round 20.
The 30-year-old was largely ineffective for GWS in the 36-point preliminary final loss to the Tigers, a week before they trounced Adelaide in the grand final.
"I probably choked back a few tears at times sitting on the bench ... just knowing that I wasn't going to get the fairytale finish that I was hoping for and playing in a (grand) final," Deledio told sports social content platform 20FOUR.
Deledio and his young family then chose to spend grand final day at Taronga Zoo in Sydney, rather than watch his former teammates break Richmond's 37-year premiership drought.
"I love footy and I've watched every grand final for the last few years for motivation," said Deledio, whose only three playoff matches in a decorated 243-match stint with the Tigers all ended in elimination-final defeats.
"But it was still so raw, the emotion of it all, that I made the decision that I probably shouldn't, just for fear of it really getting to me mentally.
"It was pretty gut-wrenching.
"Also the photos of all the boys celebrating, some of my best mates, that was really tough.
"To go through everything we did in the previous years and then to see them celebrating something I felt I should have been a part of, or could have been a part of, was really tough."
Despite the disappointment, Deledio insisted he had no regrets about joining the Giants on a three-year deal.
"You tell me one person who could have foreseen the Tiges were going to win the flag and mate, I'll call them an absolute bulls--t artist," he said.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/brett-deledio-yet-to-watch-richmond-tigers-grand-final-win-20171018-gz3rje.html
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I would feel the same, dont hold anything against him.
Whilst it was his choice to leave in pursuit of more opportunities im sure there were people advising him the benefits to Richmond should he leave via picks and opportunities for a young richmond player.
Im sure he wouldve weighed up both
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I would feel the same, dont hold anything against him.
Whilst it was his choice to leave in pursuit of more opportunities im sure there were people advising him the benefits to Richmond should he leave via picks and opportunities for a young richmond player.
Im sure he wouldve weighed up both
He's last comment sums up why he had to leave.
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I would feel the same, dont hold anything against him.
Whilst it was his choice to leave in pursuit of more opportunities im sure there were people advising him the benefits to Richmond should he leave via picks and opportunities for a young richmond player.
Im sure he wouldve weighed up both
He's last comment sums up why he had to leave.
Exactly can't believe he said that.
Not one comment about how stoked he is for his ex team mates
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Wouldnt of got a game anyway!
I can understand to a degree, but yeah that last statement stinks .... I loved Lids but on that statement alone it was good he left!
For the record I thought we were stuffed too, but Im not playing or on the list.
Premiers baby wooohooo
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Loved him and had the no. 3 on my back but he's not a team first player and would never have bought into the culture of support and openness the Tigers had this year.
Don't sook about it and be happy for your mates...
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Very disappointed with that last statement. He should be happy for all his mates.
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The universe does move in mysterious ways - blessing in disguise as hes damaged goods .
Wonder how many quality games Lids has left in him ??
Will he do his calf again next pre season ??
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Hopefully someone is thoughtful and gives him the finals box set for Christmas then :cheers :santa
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Last comment is a shocker
But if I am honest, one that doesnt surprise me
Facts he left, he made the choice to keave, could have stayed but decided he didn't want to be part of our club anymore
Sook, moan or make comments like that last one, you bought it on yourself sunshine, get over it
But being the kind hearted soul that I am, I offer the following piece advice I give my nieces ...
Suck it up Princess ;D
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Last comment is a shocker
But if I am honest, one that doesnt surprise me
Facts he left, he made the choice to keave, could have stayed but decided he didn't want to be part of our club anymore
Sook, moan or make comments like that last one, you bought it on yourself sunshine, get over it
But being the kind hearted soul that I am, I offer the following piece advice I give my nieces ...
Suck it up Princess ;D
But not your nephews??? :gobdrop
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Apparently Cotch was commended on some footy show for going to Lids after the Prelim, his response was “maybe I shouldn’t have as Lids didn’t congratulate us after the GF win”
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Last comment is a shocker
But if I am honest, one that doesnt surprise me
Facts he left, he made the choice to keave, could have stayed but decided he didn't want to be part of our club anymore
Sook, moan or make comments like that last one, you bought it on yourself sunshine, get over it
But being the kind hearted soul that I am, I offer the following piece advice I give my nieces ...
Suck it up Princess ;D
But not your nephews??? :gobdrop
Don't think WP has any.
:lol
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No regrets, Lids?
Doesn't sound like it.
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Last comment is a shocker
But if I am honest, one that doesnt surprise me
Facts he left, he made the choice to keave, could have stayed but decided he didn't want to be part of our club anymore
Sook, moan or make comments like that last one, you bought it on yourself sunshine, get over it
But being the kind hearted soul that I am, I offer the following piece advice I give my nieces ...
Suck it up Princess ;D
But not your nephews??? :gobdrop
Don't think WP has any.
:lol
I have nephew who isnt a sook like his sisters ;D
But my advice to him when he was about 14 and sooking about copping a detention went something like this
There's a bridge without a toll, get over it
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Apparently Cotch was commended on some footy show for going to Lids after the Prelim, his response was “maybe I shouldn’t have as Lids didn’t congratulate us after the GF win”
Yep. Heard that.
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Apparently Cotch was commended on some footy show for going to Lids after the Prelim, his response was “maybe I shouldn’t have as Lids didn’t congratulate us after the GF win”
Yep. Heard that.
link?
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Bit of contradiction.One moment saying I should have been there,and hurt and talking about it and next moment no regrets.Strange for player to that you move on and say I'm happy for my mates etc .Sour grapes to me.I think he needed to go never team first and seem like was stirring issues.
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Always been a bit of Me Me Me about Brett. No questions he's going through a rough patch, but its not about you Lids.
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Wow, what a prick.
Hard seeing your mates up there, huh? Was it hard seeing them left behind when you went looking for greener pastures? World doesn't revolve around you and your body fat %.
Utterly selfish, and my understanding is he could have lined up late 2016 but couldn't be F'd anymore.
One of our best trades ever. Traded our damaged goods essentially for Caddy? And poor GWS has to keep paying him for another two years LMAO.
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Apparently Cotch was commended on some footy show for going to Lids after the Prelim, his response was “maybe I shouldn’t have as Lids didn’t congratulate us after the GF win”
Yep. Heard that.
link?
Sorry don't have a link, but a friend was at some sort of QnA thing with Rance and Cotch and apparently Cotch mentioned the above re: Lids.
Very poor if true.
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I have been a fan of Lids for as long as I remember. But his comments are absolutely disgraceful and I am glad he left got traded etc. I am willing to entertain the idea that he might thinks he is more deserving of a medal than Ellis. But how about Cotch, Martin, Jack who could have left as well but stayed on? Why can't he be happy for them?
I can't believe he went to the stuffing zoo. Even Wayne Campbell watched the GF!!!!
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I’ve been in Lids’ corner as he was a great servant of a poo club, but reading his comments and what Cotchin said I think he can go EAD now
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The universe does move in mysterious ways - blessing in disguise as hes damaged goods .
Wonder how many quality games Lids has left in him ??
Will he do his calf again next pre season ??
You find me anyone who thinks he won't and I'll call them an absolute bulls--t artist ;D
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Apparently Cotch was commended on some footy show for going to Lids after the Prelim, his response was “maybe I shouldn’t have as Lids didn’t congratulate us after the GF win”
Yep. Heard that.
link?
Sorry don't have a link, but a friend was at some sort of QnA thing with Rance and Cotch and apparently Cotch mentioned the above re: Lids.
Very poor if true.
Cotch said Lids hadn't even texted him to congratulate him and Rance added something along the lines of 'well he left and missed out' or close to this. It looked to be tounge in check stuff to me.
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Newsflash Derlidio, RFC won the GF, so when you watch it, don't be surprised
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he can always watch reruns of the 2016 trade period
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Lids was a very good player in a pretty ordinary side for a long time. He has played in some shocking losses and some demoralising losing streaks, so you could hardly blame him for having mixed emotions about the success of the Tigers. I think you lot are getting a bit hysterical over a comment that looks like it was made in jest.
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Lids was a very good player in a pretty ordinary side for a long time. He has played in some shocking losses and some demoralising losing streaks, so you could hardly blame him for having mixed emotions about the success of the Tigers. I think you lot are getting a bit hysterical over a comment that looks like it was made in jest.
Hysterical, give me a spell. Are we all supposed to fell bad now, feel like silly little people for having the ability to spot an out point. Who ever you are, get this, Deledio didn't even have the decency to contact the Captain and offer his congratulations after the win, a player who refused to take the field at the tail end of last year because he DIDN'T want to be a part of our club anymore, etc etc. There is more going on here than his self justifying statement at the end of an article that is the icing on his all ready cooked cake. The know best got it wrong.
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Apparently Cotch was commended on some footy show for going to Lids after the Prelim, his response was “maybe I shouldn’t have as Lids didn’t congratulate us after the GF win”
Brilliant :clapping
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The only Richmond player Deledio has had any contact with since the grand final was his close mate Shaun Grigg.
“It’s just a bit raw at the moment and doesn’t feel right texting them to say congratulations,” Deledio said.
“Don’t get me wrong, I’m really rapt for them they’ve won it, but bringing myself to say congratulations is a little bit tough at the moment. The time will come when I’ll reach out.”
There was an added level of pain for the 30-year-old as Richmond beat the Giants in the grand final qualifier one week earlier.
“I faced a lot of mixed emotions during the last quarter, knowing what the result was going to be,” Deledio said.
“I choked back a few tears at times sitting on the bench, just knowing I wasn’t going to get the fairytale finish I was hoping for — playing in a grand final.”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/brett-deledios-pain-of-watching-former-club-win-the-flag-was-too-much/news-story/8218c380c7ca7fff2f65936d871b2d88
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Have been saying for the past few years that he was a problem in the club, his elitist attitude to the younger guys was a real issue
He made the call to leave, and thankfully he did.
Speaks volumes of the guy that he cant even congratulate his mates on their success, only says one thing and that is that the whole world revolves around Brett and Brett alone, such a selfish prick
As someone else said, suck it up princess cause it aint going away any time soon
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Personally hope the Jaffas never win a flag
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disappointing from lids - but not surprising...
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Personally hope the Jaffas never win a flag
If they get their act together and start playing as a team they'll win the next 5..... :shh
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Ty is the true victim here.
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Ty is the true victim here.
Yesssssssssss ol screecharoo
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Quite frankly don't care about how Lids is feeling about all this.
I did post before the GWS game that I hoped he had a good game, but once they were knocked out, it is all done and dusted.
Best of luck to him from here, but we have all moved on.
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“I wish he was there”: Rance saddened by ex-Tiger’s flag miss
By Justin Talent
SEN
20 October 2017
Richmond premiership star Alex Rance says he feels unhappy that former teammate Brett Deledio missed out on the club’s drought breaking premiership this year.
The now-GWS player spoke out of the “raw” feeling of missing out on the Tigers’ emphatic 2017 premiership this week, revealing that he had not watched a single minute of the game due to the fear that it would mentally affect him. Rance says that the Richmond life member’s words leaves him wishing that he was part of their Grand Final victory last month.
“I wish I played in a flag with him,” he told SEN’s The Run Home.
“A lot of my career was played with him. We slogged it out for a long period of time and that is potentially what burns him out a bit I guess.
“Being the number one man and the number one pick who was always relied upon, a multiple best and fairest, and then just said I couldn’t do it anymore.
“It’s sad that he couldn’t get the reward from a team perspective and yeah, it does make me unhappy to know that he missed out.”
The 30-year-old 2004 number one draft pick exited Richmond in the 2016 NAB AFL Trade Period, joining the Giants after 243 games in the yellow and black.
Despite the Giants being widely tipped to win the 2017 premiership, they were one of Richmond’s victims in September, stumbling to the eventual premiers by 36 points in a preliminary final.
The game at the MCG was also Deledio’s 250th AFL game.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/10/20/i-wish-he-was-there-rance-saddened-by-ex-tiger's-flag-miss/
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Would he have got a game? Was playing terrible uninspired ineffective footy leading up to his 250th. Not only that but in the prelim when he had the opportunity to tuck the ball under his arm and kick a team lifting goal from outside fifty he chose to revert to the 2016 thing and chip it sideways which allowed all our boys to flood the defensive 50. :clapping
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Would he have got a game? Was playing terrible uninspired ineffective footy leading up to his 250th. Not only that but in the prelim when he had the opportunity to tuck the ball under his arm and kick a team lifting goal from outside fifty he chose to revert to the 2016 thing and chip it sideways which allowed all our boys to flood the defensive 50. :clapping
Aside from anything else, not sure he would fit our current pressure gameplan.
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I still don't blame him for moving after 2016 and having seen it all before with Wallace I can accept he wanted to go to a team that was going to contend. Still it looks bad to not congatulate the guys.
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Lids at Jack's bucks trip.
(https://instagram.fmel2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/22637709_131979020856852_6842881997820395520_n.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/Baf1MzvFijo/?taken-by=shaungrigg6
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wow he looks about as animated as Weekend at Bernies, someone slip him some happy pills
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Lids at Jack's bucks trip.
(https://instagram.fmel2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/22637709_131979020856852_6842881997820395520_n.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/Baf1MzvFijo/?taken-by=shaungrigg6
Why is the woman holding a bag of speed?
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No flag for Tigers if Deledio played: Robbo
By Alex Zaia
SEN
23 October 2017
Herald Sun Chief Football Writer Mark Robinson says that Richmond wouldn’t have won this season’s premiership had they not have traded 243-game veteran Brett Deledio to Greater Western Sydney.
The Tigers received the Giants' future first and third round draft picks for the midfielder, picks they will use at this year’s draft.
Deledio’s departure saw a number of players step up in his absence as the 30-year-old watched his former club claim its first flag in 37-years in heart-breaking circumstances.
“Richmond fans had an affection for Deledio for such a long time, he was probably their best player,” Robinson told SEN Afternoons.
“Damien Hardwick had to make a really hard decision as to what he thought was in the best interests of the football club.
“It was an emotional decision and we have seen in the last couple of weeks Deledio speaking about how he can’t watch the game and that it really, really hurts him.
“Would they have won the flag if they didn’t make that decision? Who knows? But if I had to make a decision on that or die, then no, I don’t think they would have won the flag because the machinations change.
“They brought players in they brought youth into the team. It allowed them to recruit some players. We all want fairy-tales in football and sometimes they happen and they did happened for Jack Graham and Jacob Townsend.”
Deledio revealed he hasn’t been able to bring himself to watch the 2017 Grand Final and described the feeling on missing out on Richmond’s historic premiership as “gut-wrenching.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/10/23/no-flag-for-tigers-if-deledio-played-robbo/
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I think this dude is right to an extent we were held back by playing Lids and not playing him wouldn't have been an option
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“Damien Hardwick had to make a really hard decision as to what he thought was in the best interests of the football club.
FFS, exactly what decision did Dimma make?
Lids wanted out, he made the call.
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I think this dude is right to an extent we were held back by playing Lids and not playing him wouldn't have been an option
In hindsight I agree.
Was pretty gutted when Lids left, but turned out well for us.
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I'm hchecking in to monitor the poor blokes progress
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Deledio walked out on the club.
He is a dog!
Read between the lines!
Instead of saying he is happy for his old club he has ran away from it all and feels “sick” thinking about it as he knows he walked away from the club that took care of him.
The saying goes through thick and thin.
Anyone who slightly feels for him hasn’t learnt a thing!
He wanted to go to a successful team and went Geelong first then GWS. He shopped himself around!
He knows he should have stayed and for mine, was a player who couldn’t handle the heat in big games!
Richmond believed within themselves throughout the year and now we are Premiers!
No sympathy for traitors!
These 22 Tigers are Premiers and a team of champions now!
Team ... not I wants ...
Dustin Martin handballing to Bulter in Round 1 giving him his first goal in career was a sign of team first not I players like Deledio.
Rumoro about him or Jack fighting with Trent etc ... Deledio clearly was in it for himself.
Anyone who LOVES a club would want his mates to win the Premiership and not feel sick.
You left because you wanted what we now have.
eleven of GWS win the next Premiership, you won with a plastic/test tube club that you don’t belong too.
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Selfish pea heart
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I liken Brett's situation to a bloke that's just divorced his misses that he's been with for more than ten years without any outward animosity from either side, the divorce gets settled completely and a month latter the ex wife wins 20 million in oz lotto and he gets nothing, how would you feel?
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He will be like a new recruit
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-30/deledio-declares-hes-fit-for-final-but-
GREATER Western Sydney veteran Brett Deledio has declared himself fit and available for the club's elimination final clash against Sydney at the SCG on Saturday week.
Deledio missed the last two games of the home and away season with a calf injury, but said he would be right to play this weekend if there had have been a game.
With another week of training under his belt, the 31-year-old said he would be at peak fitness for the game against the Swans.
"I'm ready and raring and it's just going to be up to the coach (Leon Cameron) and whether he's going to make too many changes and whether he's got confidence in my body to get through a full game," Deledio told RSN 927.
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Lids will twang a calf 10 mins into the 2nd quarter
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I'll be surprised if they pick him.
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I'll be surprised if they pick him.
Why?
His finals experience would be invaluable to them :lol
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I'm yet to watch Lids win a final at all, but you don't hear me banging on about it! :santa
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Well cconsidering he played in their semi-final win over West Coast last year and the winner was playing us the prelim I'm guessing you, like most Richmond supporters, would've watched it.... :shh
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Who would want to watch a video of their ex wives getting remarried ??
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GWS have enough finals experience without him and he is not a finals player. He just plays poorly every time
. Must get too nervous and not sleep or something.
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DELEDIO - CAREER REGRETS?
After barely missing a game for most of his 12 seasons at Richmond, Deledio has managed just 16 matches in three years at the Giants.
Despite his cursed run — Deledio is adamant he does not regret his move to Sydney, only his reaction to Richmond winning without him.
“It’s been huge for Katie and myself as a couple more than anything,” said Deledio, who hopes to only miss two weeks with this latest injury.
“We haven’t had any support up here … but we’ve worked it out and learnt how to grow and lean on each other and it’s another chapter to our story.
“I was disappointed in the way I handled all of that (he escaped to Toronga Zoo instead of watching the grand final). I didn’t know how else to handle it. I didn’t know how to remove myself from it.
“(Over time) I started to realise that life is more about your friendships. Those will last forever over my footy career.
“(Now I) text (Richmond mates) about how I’m feeling for them, versus not speaking to them for a week because I was crappy about the result from the year before. Life gets put into perspective. Experience teaches you these things.”
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gws/gws-star-brett-deledio-is-no-longer-a-prisoner-of-richmonds-success-or-his-failing-body/news-story/970dd3b90e652bfab4340b49b588200a
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Deledio on the radio earlier today was saying his calves are feeling the best they have for a number of years and it sounded like he was prepared to make an AFL comeback if it came via a club picking him up in say a midseason draft.
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Wow I suppose if they have extra spots when it all comes back.
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Depending on length of season a shorter season may help him get through. Risk vs reward. On a minimum contract its worth the risk.
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No chance. Clubs are getting rid of players before next season not taking on broken down has beens
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“I want you to win a flag”: Brett Deledio explains Richmond exit, reveals clubs he explored
By Alex Zaia
SEN
24 May 2020
Brett Deledio has detailed how his Richmond exit took place and revealed the clubs he spoke to prior to joining GWS.
The former No.1 draft pick held talks with Geelong and the Western Bulldogs but opted for the Giants who had just played off in a preliminary final.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick encouraged Deledio to experience what he experienced twice as a player – win a premiership.
Hardwick, who just completed his seventh season at Punt Road, was under increasing pressure to retain his job following a disappointing 2016 campaign that yielded just eight wins.
“At the end of the year, I went back and forth I don’t know how many times as to what was I doing to do … am I going to stay, am I going to go?” Deledio told This Is Your Sporting Life thanks to Tobin Brothers Funerals.
“I explored a couple of different options. Initially I tried to get to Geelong; caught up with Chris Scott and Steve Hocking at the time; had a really good meeting with them.
“Their offer came back … we can’t really do this without taking significant pay cut … so we looked at other options.
“I spoke to the Bulldogs … and caught up with Dimma (Hardwick) to tell him that this is what was I was doing, that I was keen to see what else there was out there and he was pretty open and honest with me as well - he was pretty nervous for his own job because of how badly we’ve gone.
“He said, ‘Mate, I want you to win a flag … I want you to experience what I’ve experienced, and I told him, ‘Mate, look to be honest, I’m crapping myself about going up there and moving my whole family up to Sydney – it just scares me’.
“I ended up saying, ‘Right, I’m going to stay’ … and I injured my calf on a run and I went into the club and I was like, ‘I think I’m going to go and explore this (leaving)’ … these thoughts came into my head about being involved at a club where I wasn’t sure where we were going to go.
“So for my own peace of mind and happiness, let’s go and try a new club.”
Former GWS footy boss and Tigers champion Wayne Campbell played a major role in getting Deledio to the club.
“Wayne Campbell had been in my ear for a couple of months since the finish of the season and organised for me to go up there," Deledio said.
“I met Dave (Matthews) and Leon (Cameron), we all went out on a boat on the harbour … ultimately they sold it to me and I knew deep down that they were the best team to go to, but I was just worried about uprooting my young family at the time and getting up to Sydney.”
Deledio was unable to win that elusive flag with GWS and could only watch on as a resurgent Richmond won two premierships in 2017 and 2019.
The two-time All-Australian called time on his 275-game career in 2019.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/05/23/i-want-you-to-win-a-flag-deledio-explains-richmond-exit-reveals-clubs-he/
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The failed move which led to Deledio’s 2008 best and fairest success
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
26 May 2020
Brett Deledio first won Richmond’s best and fairest award in 2008.
It came at the conclusion of a season where things did not quite pan out for him individually from the start. It also came surprisingly in the shadow of a club legend’s best ever season (arguably).
In his fourth year at Punt Road, the former no.1 draft pick put a positional change aside to claim the Jack Dyer Medal at the age of 21, beating Shane Tuck and Matthew Richardson - the latter having made the All-Australian side and finished a close-up third in the Brownlow Medal.
Deledio explained how that year he was set to take up a deep forward role for coach Terry Wallace before quickly aborting the move and shifting up the field where he was far more dangerous for the Tigers who would narrowly miss finals.
“At the end of ’07, ‘Plough’ challenged me to become a bit heavier and become a full-forward,” he said on SEN’s This Is Your Sporting Life.
“So I did. I got up to 92kg, the heaviest I’ve ever been, and was just going to play full-forward for the whole year. To try and be that smaller Brad Johnson type full-forward out of the square.
“It lasted all of about one game. I kicked two in the first week but I wasn’t doing what I thought I could do so I pushed up the ground just as that half-forward. Those were the days when the half-forward went up one side and the half-back went up the other and you sort of had a fair bit of free rein.
“I played on that (flank) for the whole year pretty much. I knew I was going to go ok in the best and fairest (but) I never had any idea (I’d win). That was obviously Matty Richardson’s best year. In the Brownlow he finished third and he was dominating on the wing.”
“I want you to win a flag”: Brett Deledio explains Richmond exit
Deledio recalls the winning moment with great fondness as he had just been crowned the best player at a club with plenty of rich history and a plethora of star players before him.
“The biggest things for me and what I look back fondly on, I had my whole family there,” he added.
“I thought I’d go ok but to have a full table of my immediate family and my cousins, that was the most special thing. And then when a whole crowd of 1500 people give you a standing ovation, it stirs the hairs on the back of your neck.
“It was pretty special because it is such a proud club and a big club with so many proud members.
“That was the brightest part of some darker days that we had earlier on. We’d won a wooden spoon (in 2007) by then and things weren’t going as flash as we though, so that was really nice.”
Deledio kicked 28 goals and averaged more than 24 disposals during the 2008 season in one of his most prolific campaigns.
He would add the 2009 Jack Dyer Medal to his list of accolades before finishing up at Richmond in 2016 after 243 games and 182 goals. He played a further 32 games for the GWS Giants over three seasons prior to retiring at the culmination of last season.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/05/26/the-aborted-move-which-led-to-deledios-2008-best-and-fairest-success/
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Tommy Talks with Brett Deledio! Elite Athlete Turned AFL Player Agent at Mac's Sports Promotions!
Full interview:
Richmond stuff begins at 23:00 min mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgPNjupI9N4
Lids said in 2016 he wanted out by Round 6: https://twitter.com/tigertragic2/status/1681762852565303296
He also talked about a chance to leave at the end of 2009 to go to Collingwood.