One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on December 16, 2008, 10:34:49 AM
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:o
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Does anyone know anything about this guy?
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Small quick forward. Played with Port melbourne.
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Robin Nahas - details?
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Date of birth: 10/11/87
Height: 176cm
Weight: 67kg
Club: Port Melbourne
Bio: A small midfielder who is a proven goalkicker. Nahas displays a fierce competitiveness and is very quick with excellent evasive skills. He had an outstanding 2008 season for Port Melbourne, which saw him represent the VFL at state level against the SANFL.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=70199
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I actually dont mind Nahas as a rookie selection, adds a type of player we needed. Not a bad pick.
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I think the Bombers were keen on him, potentially at Pick 5 in the PSD so no surprise that we pounced on him early in the rookie draft if we wanted him
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he is very skinny Nahas.
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67kg :o
Cant be too much of him, but as Ramps said we dont have too much of that type of player
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We can use Nahas as an impact player, in a forward pocket, its a long shot that he would play alot of games, but giving him a chance isnt bad at all. Good luck to him.
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He would be replacing the sneaky sneak Clayton Collard on the list wouldn't he?, I think they were the same type of player, well until Collard porkied it on that is.
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(http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/73883037.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934AEA4ECF4B436E776DB5B409160BCD56284831B75F48EF45)
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Thanks OE.
His physique doesn't look as bad as I thought it may given his stats.
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Nahas was a smart choice, hes not guarantee of making of it or playing alot of games, but we dont have enough of his type of player. Nahas and Gilligan fill a need, its up to them to make a career from it. Richmond supporters should get behind these two boys and support them, Nahas because he is older may pinch some senior games in 2009.
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Here's some video from the AFL site:
http://bigpondvideo.com/afl/90250 (http://bigpondvideo.com/afl/90250)
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Not Sure on this guy, is good at VFL level but I'm not sure if he will cut it at senior level. I guess we need to but a bit of faith in our recuiters.
I would personally have considered a couple of kids like De- Borg (sic) Sidoasa (sic) but lets hope our recruiters have done their research.
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Not Sure on this guy, is good at VFL level but I'm not sure if he will cut it at senior level. I guess we need to but a bit of faith in our recuiters.
I would personally have considered a couple of kids like De- Borg (sic) Sidoasa (sic) but lets hope our recruiters have done their research.
Have seemed to make all the right decisions with the trades and draft choices over the last few years so I have faith they did with Nahas too. Have to agree with you regarding size etc though. Seems an outside chance at best at first glance. Time will tell Paddyboy! ;)
Stripes
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ROBIN NAHAS - PICK 8
Height: 176cm
Weight: 67kg
Age: 21
From: Port Melbourne
A 21-year-old from the Port Melbourne Football Club. As an 18-year-old, Nahas played for Vic Metro in the National Carnival and represented Oakleigh Chargers in the TAC competition. He represented the VFL against SA in Adelaide this year where he kicked four goals. He had an outstanding season with Port Melbourne, kicking 50 goals. He has very good defensive skills and is an excellent tackler.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=70905
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Rockin Robin off to Richmond
Caulfield-Glen Eira Leader
16 Dec 08 by Paul Amy
AS he contemplated his future as a Richmond rookie on Tuesday morning, an emotional “Rockin” Robin Nahas took care to praise Port Melbourne’s contribution to his rise to AFL ranks.
“It wouldn’t be possible, it wouldn’t be happening, without Port,’’ Nahas, 21, told the Leader 30 minutes after his selection.
“(Coach) Gary Ayres, (senior player) John Baird, they really got on to me this year, pushed me up, they were fantastic.
“‘Bairdy’ pulled my head in halfway through the year and said, ‘Do you want to play AFL football?’ Well, OK, you’ve really got to step it up and do this and this and this.
“He’s a massive part of this. Everyone at Port is. That’s the sad part, that I’ll have to leave Port.’’
Nahas watched the rookie draft on the Internet and said he sat stunned when the Tigers took him at Number 8.
He had spoken to Richmond officials last Thursday.
“This is ridiculous. I really don’t know what to say. Speechless, to be honest.
“My mum, she’s over the moon. She’s so happy right now.’’
Nahas joined Port Melbourne from the Oakleigh Chargers three years ago, immediately impressing with his explosive pace and poise.
This season under the experienced Ayres he took his game to a loftier level, winning the Frank Johnson Medal as Victoria’s best player in the state game against the SANFL and the VFL’s Fothergill Round Medal as the “most likely’’ player in the league.
Ayres said Nahas’s selection was a reward for his diligence.
“We’re just rapt for him,’’ he said.
“People away from the football club wouldn’t know how hard he’s worked to get to this point. He thoroughly deserves this.’’
At 174cm, Nahas will be among the shortest player on AFL lists next year.
But Ayres said that in his discussions with AFL recruiters this year, his right-footer’s size had never been mentioned.
“We worked extremely hard on putting out a profile on what he could actually do well,’’ he said.
Nahas will play for Richmond’s affiliate, the Coburg Tigers, in the VFL next year.
http://caulfield-glen-eira-leader.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/rockin-robin-off-to-richmond/
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Rookie Robin's need for speed
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
3:14 PM Thu 12 February, 2009
SMALL, but lightning quick. Good eye for a goal. What's not to like?
Robin Nahas was selected by Richmond with its first pick at last year's NAB AFL Rookie Draft, but would have gone even earlier in the day if not for a certain B. Cousins taking the Tigers' only pre-season draft pick.
A stellar 2008 saw the 21-year-old clock the half-ton for Port Melbourne in the VFL, win the Frank Johnson Medal as Victoria's best player in the state game against the SANFL and also snare the VFL's Rising Star equivalent, the Fothergill-Round Medal.
The year was capped off when the Tigers took him at number eight overall in the rookie draft.
Nahas said his time at Port under coach Gary Ayres was the catalyst for selection into AFL ranks.
"Ayresy was really good to me this year – he played me as a small forward," he told richmondfc.com.au. "I kicked 50 goals this year, and I think most of it has to do with Gary and the way he coached – he played me to my strengths.
"It was good to get nominated and end up winning it (the Fothergill-Round Medal), but all year it was mainly due to the success of the team that let me come through.
"The better the team plays, the better the individual plays, especially if you're a forward.
"My asset is my leg speed – he played me up forward and [I was] pretty lucky."
Nahas has played in the midfield, but says his natural position is as a small forward.
"I'm definitely a forward – I really enjoy chasing and tackling, and it's the sort of thing that anybody can do, so it's a good thing to have.
"It's my consistency – I'm not there to get 20 touches a game – I'm there to chase and tackle and take my opportunities."
At 176cm and 67kg he's clearly in the smaller bracket, but he's lightning quick, another speedster in a club that is already blessed with pace, although he's not sure of the actual stats.
"I wouldn't have a clue – I haven't done any testing. I'm just a newbie, but a couple of the boys have said I'm as quick as they've seen.
"But Matty White and Daniel Jackson? They're elite – they're as elite as they come. (Jackson and White ran 10:02 and 10:03 respectively around Princes Park last week.)
"I'm very lucky to get a chance to play AFL football at my size, so I'm going to take it with both hands."
While the VFL has been a terrific environment to play in, Nahas said the opportunities to improve at the top level were much greater.
"You're playing football all week, and that's your job, so there's not outside influences where, in the VFL for instance, you work during the day, and then at five o'clock you go to training and you're a bit tired and not all there.
"But you come here, and you know 'this is what you've got to do', and you do it to the best of your ability every time you're here, because this is your job."
http://richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/default.aspx?newsid=72044
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God I hope this kid gets a chance from the start of the season. The club has to put Polak on the Long Term Injury List to allow Nahas an opportunity to play in our forwardline. We need a Davey-type small forward who can crumb and create goals but most importantly apply defensive pressure and keep the ball inside our F50.
Keeping Polak on the list so he can play a game or two for Coburg and keep his spirits up is not a good enough reason for mine to keep Nahas out of the team. Polak will not play regardless for the first half of the season at the least so why not use the opportunity to elevate Nahas?
We have been crying out for a genuine crumber and here we have possibly found one. Coupled with the fact he can run opposition defenders down, tackle and cause turnovers around our goals, he could be a tremendous asset playing at the feet of our taller forwards.
Hope we make the right decision and he gets a chance. How he plays this Sunday will be a big factor in this decision so for his sake I hope he plays out of his skin!
Stripes
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at just 67 kg :gobdrop he will need to if the freo doctor gets in early he maybe out of the ground and 1/2 way to kalgoorlie before the end of the 1st 1/4 :rollin
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I think Id rather have pettifer on the LTIL than GP
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Robin Nahas i really hope shows something. If he can kick two goals per match. he would be very valuable!
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At 176cm and 67kg he's clearly in the smaller bracket, but he's lightning quick, another speedster in a club that is already blessed with pace, although he's not sure of the actual stats.
How things have changed
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Polak's career in limbo as Tigers look at Nahas
Caroline Wilson | February 17, 2009
RICHMOND is looking to place Graham Polak on its long-term injury list on the eve of the 2009 season and promote its VFL rookie Robin Nahas, whose progress since he came to Tigerland has been likened to that of Aaron Davey at Melbourne.
The prevailing view regarding Polak, who sustained a severe brain injury when he was hit by a tram last year, is that the 24-year-old defender remains unable to play competitive elite football other than in a controlled situation.
Richmond had sought, but was refused, special permission from the AFL Commission to rookie-list Polak in the manner that Essendon had with Adam Ramanauskas while the wingman was recovering from cancer. Although he has progressed better than expected, Polak faces a massive challenge to return even to the Coburg side.
The Tigers' dilemma is that an eight-week stint on the long-term injury list would prevent Polak from even contesting a VFL reserves game. The other obvious choice remains Kayne Pettifer who is recovering from a serious knee injury, but the club believes Pettifer is progressing well and could be available in the opening quartile of 2009.
Nahas, 21, was the player the Tigers had planned to take in the pre-season draft — not rookie David Gourdis as most other clubs believed — before it controversially took a plunge on Ben Cousins. Coach Terry Wallace and his team were quietly elated when the speedy midfielder-forward remained available for the club in the rookie draft.
He came to the club with a groin problem but his quick recovery and impressive pre-season ensured Nahas was selected for Sunday night's NAB Cup clash against Fremantle, in which the Port Melbourne recruit levelled the scores during the third quarter at Subiaco with a running goal from his first kick.
Winner of the Fothergill-Round Medal — the award for the best young player in the VFL — Nahas came heavily recommended to Wallace from his Hawthorn premiership teammate Gary Ayres.
So impressed has Wallace been by the youngster, that Nahas remains a chance for selection in the round one season-opener against Carlton at the MCG on March 26.
Polak began training in November last year after the accident, which saw him placed in an induced coma. He was in hospital for more than a month and remains under weekly scrutiny by Epworth Hospital medical staff.
Although his progress has been remarkable since then — Polak contested an intra-club practice match at Gosch's Paddock earlier this month — his ability to recover from an intense workout remains an issue and significant doubt prevails as to whether he could contest a senior VFL game this year.
Polak flew to Perth with the Tigers for their NAB Cup opener and spoke at the club's function there on Friday night where he received an emotional welcome and more applause than any other player including Matthew Richardson or Ben Cousins.
AFL boss Andrew Demetriou had backed the Tigers' bid to place Polak on the rookie list during the lead-up to the Cousins drafting, but the bid was rejected by the commission and the clubs.
Polak's manager, Paul Connors, would not comment on situation last night.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/polaks-career-in-limbo/2009/02/16/1234632736082.html
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Caro... A good article one day, melodrama the next
There is absolutely nothing in this article that we didn't already know ......
The only person that really needs to "READ" this articel is one D Barrett who maybe just maybe might understand why the Tigers wanted to put Polak on the rookie list.... but then again it's still probably wasted on him
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Caro... A good article one day, melodrama the next
There is absolutely nothing in this article that we didn't already know ......
The only person that really needs to "READ" this articel is one D Barrett who maybe just maybe might understand why the Tigers wanted to put Polak on the rookie list.... but then again it's still probably wasted on him
Thanks WP. Saved me the trouble of launching into another diatribe against that biased wanker. Oh gee, maybe the Tigers weren't being as dishonourable as we reported and gee, maybe they did have a valid point.
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i cant believe they would still entertain the idea of Pettifer in the seniors.
He is fu.... rubbish FFS. I cant stand the sight of him as an AFL footballer.
Some of you talk about BOwden being selfish bla bla bla well if u look up the word in the dictionary there is a photo of Pathetic Pettifer in there.
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Looks like Nahas will play a heap of footy for us this year.
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So Eddie and all those heartless self-serving clubs that blocked it - Polly playing Coburg ressies was a real threat to you wasn't he ::).
Anyway congrats to Robin. He's obviously impressed all those at the club :clapping.
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Nahas will have to wait to round 11 to be promoted....
Richmond's VFL recruit Robin Nahas may have to wait for a long-term injury to play senior football despite showing his class pre-season.
Graham Polak made his comeback on Friday, disproving reports he would go on the long-term injury list to make room for Nahas.
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Port Adelaide is in a similar position with rookies after it put second-round draftee Jackson Trengove on its long-term injury list.
Dynamic indigenous goalsneak Wade Thompson and former Richmond midfielder Danny Meyer have impressed in pre-seasons matches and are candidates for elevation.
Port football manager Peter Rohde confirmed the club had extended the carrot of a senior game for the pair if they continued to impress.
This year all clubs can also elevate a rookie after Round 11 without putting a player on the long-term injured list.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25157517-19742,00.html
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nahas would need to improve 5 fold to warrant promotion ...Im looking to browne and gourdis to lay claims before robin gets a look in...needs to spend more time with the footy , less chasing tail
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nahas would need to improve 5 fold to warrant promotion ...Im looking to browne and gourdis to lay claims before robin gets a look in...needs to spend more time with the footy , less chasing tail
So far Browne has been the most promising of the 3 IMO. Agree BJ Nahas has to get his hands of the footy before he's considered but he's still ahead of Gourdis. Dave's kicking is still a major issue for mine.
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Nahas comes in as Tigers face axe
Michael Gleeson and Adam Cooper | April 1, 2009
SMALL forward Robin Nahas shapes as likely to be among the group of players Richmond turns to repair the damage of its breathtaking opening round loss to Carlton. Nahas was last night promoted to the Tigers' senior list and would likely come into immediate calculation for the side to play the Cats down at Geelong this weekend.
The exciting small forward and midfielder, a mature rookie who had a couple of years at Port Melbourne, impressed the coaching staff over the pre-season and was unlucky not to be promoted to the senior list a fortnight ago when ruckman Andrew Browne was chosen instead.
Richmond had two senior list vacancies with Kayne Pettifer and Graeme Polak both on the long-term injury list.
The Tigers are expected to make a handful of changes this week with running player Jordan McMahon likely to be dropped and full-back Will Thursfield will come under intense pressure to hold his place. Alex Rance, Tom Hislop and Dean Polo are all in contention to play.
Full article at:
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/nahas-comes-in-as-tigers-face-axe/2009/03/31/1238261580149.html
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Richmond had two senior list vacancies with Kayne Pettifer and Graeme Polak both on the long-term injury list.
Polly - that's a surprise
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Richmond had two senior list vacancies with Kayne Pettifer and Graeme Polak both on the long-term injury list.
Polly - that's a surprise
rumour has it sugar will be on the LTIL
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Nahas comes in as Tigers face axe
Michael Gleeson and Adam Cooper | April 1, 2009
SMALL forward Robin Nahas shapes as likely to be among the group of players Richmond turns to repair the damage of its breathtaking opening round loss to Carlton. Nahas was last night promoted to the Tigers' senior list and would likely come into immediate calculation for the side to play the Cats down at Geelong this weekend.
Richmond had two senior list vacancies with Kayne Pettifer and Graeme Polak both on the long-term injury list.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/nahas-comes-in-as-tigers-face-axe/2009/03/31/1238261580149.html
There is nothing on RFC or the AFL website about this. Is it true the he "HAS" been promoted or are they just speculating? I personally cant see it based on the reports from the Couburg game, but hey the coaches know what they are doing (or should at least).
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Richmond had two senior list vacancies with Kayne Pettifer and Graeme Polak both on the long-term injury list.
Polly - that's a surprise
rumour has it sugar will be on the LTIL
Quote your source esp if it just another forum.
and please lay off the racist remarks, they are not wanted here.
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Or is this another one of those 1st of the 4th posts. The other was obvious but this reads well so I am unsure.
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From all reports Nahas has failed to impress during the preseason and coburgs first hitout so this is a surprize move from the Tigers. My only explanation is that the coaches see that our forward defensive pressure is terrible (something like 2 tackles to 13 in the F50 last week!) and our goal crumbing was woeful so they are hoping against hope that Nahas can fill that role regardless of his current form.
What a baptism of fire for any new inclusion given the calibre of the this weeks opposition. Anyone who can perform this week will be a find indeed.
I would imagine that he would be placed straight into the team as the Tigers are reluctant to elevate a rookie, and therefore pay them a higher wage, without getting their money's worth. So, assuming the article is correct, expect Nahas to be in the team this week.
Stripes
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Also just read that conditions will be poor and that with the new stands being built at Skilled it is creating very unpredictable wind blasts. This means ground level play will be very important and skillful delivery very difficult. This could be another reason why Nahas has been elevated because crumbing forwards will be essential in this type of game. Could also be why Hislop, Polo and Rance could get a game over other taller/'skillful' players such as Bowden and McMahon.
Looking forward to seeing the team lists this week
Stripes
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From all reports Nahas has failed to impress during the preseason and coburgs first hitout so this is a surprize move from the Tigers.
Wrong. Apparently Nahas has been very impressive in the preseason (obviously not in the NAB cup though). And he was imo clearly BOG in Coburgs praccy match on the weekend. Had 25+ touches and kicked 4 goals. He was one of the 3 standouts alongside Rance and Polo
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who is racist, probably 90% of people here are just afraid to admit it. But not me , i hate everyone equally lol
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who is racist, probably 90% of people here are just afraid to admit it. But not me , i hate everyone equally lol
You are racist if your actions and words are deemed by others to be racist.
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am i? if you say so! i guess that is because you know me oh so well.
oops, im late for my KKK meeting, naughty me :rollin
best not forget my tar and feathers on the way hey!
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From all reports Nahas has failed to impress during the preseason and coburgs first hitout so this is a surprize move from the Tigers.
Wrong. Apparently Nahas has been very impressive in the preseason (obviously not in the NAB cup though). And he was imo clearly BOG in Coburgs praccy match on the weekend. Had 25+ touches and kicked 4 goals. He was one of the 3 standouts alongside Rance and Polo
Slap! :help
Thanks for the clarification. I did actually mean the preseason cup but good to hear he was one of the standouts playing for Coburg.
Stripes
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First up stick the topic people and stop with the insults and NO I don't care who started it, who said what..... >:( :banghead
I thought Nahas played well for Coburg on the weekend but I just worry about how will go in the AFL - he struggled a bit in the NAB Cup keeping up with the pace of the game...that's my only concern
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First up stick the topic people and stop with the insults and NO I don't care who started it, who said what..... >:( :banghead
I thought Nahas played well for Coburg on the weekend but I just worry about how will go in the AFL - he struggled a bit in the NAB Cup keeping up with the pace of the game...that's my only concern
i do not think nahas struggled that much, i believe he was not used enough when he found space, maybe he was hard to see being so small, but during the nab is was the same old story , bomb it long and not lower the eyes for better options
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Does this mean we are going to replace one skinny kid (Edwards) with another (Nahas).Playing Geelong we will need strong mature bodies -not players who look like they are still in high school..........How close is Thomson to selection?
Give Nahas a go later on by all means but horses for courses
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who is racist, probably 90% of people here are just afraid to admit it. But not me , i hate everyone equally lol
you idiot
apologise for being such a narrow minded bigot
and dont pm again either
racist pri!ck
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Stick to the topic ::)
Does this mean we are going to replace one skinny kid (Edwards) with another (Nahas).Playing Geelong we will need strong mature bodies -not players who look like they are still in high school..........How close is Thomson to selection?
Give Nahas a go later on by all means but horses for courses
Maybe although Edwards was played out of position. He should never have been played in the backline as he had no idea how to play back there.
I know Nahas was one of Coburg's best on the weekend and he kicked 50 goals last year for Port because he is quick and can apply forward pressure but he didn't do anything during the NAB Cup to warrant promotion so from an outsider's view it's a strange decision. Sounds more like we want to swing the axe and this gives us more options to do so.
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Well Nahas be ready for it, if you don't go out there and pick up 30+ possessions, kick 8 goals, 7 goal assists and 10 tackles you will cop the wrath of a few people on this forum!!!
Well done to Nahas I hope he ENJOYS his first game in the seniors.
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who is racist, probably 90% of people here are just afraid to admit it. But not me , i hate everyone equally lol
you idiot
apologise for being such a narrow minded bigot
and dont pm again either
racist pri!ck
take a good haed look at yourself and grow up
btw, look who is breaking forum rules here
would you like me to avoid the swear filter and personally attack you
you are so classy
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Well Nahas be ready for it, if you don't go out there and pick up 30+ possessions, kick 8 goals, 7 goal assists and 10 tackles you will cop the wrath of a few people on this forum!!!
Well done to Nahas I hope he ENJOYS his first game in the seniors.
The good thing for Nahas is everyone expects Geelong to flog us. So even if he has a decent game then he would do far more than most of the side did against Carlton. No pressure on him whatsoever. He just needs to go out play his natural game.
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Totally agre MT, lets hope he doesn't freeze up and get too nervous, he needs to just play his game.
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Totally agre MT, lets hope he doesn't freeze up and get too nervous, he needs to just play his game.
Agree WAT. Let's hope Nahas being slightly older than the usual draftee and all his VFL experience playing open age footy can settle the nerves down quickly. All the best to him on debut.
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Nahas comes in as Tigers face axe
Michael Gleeson and Adam Cooper | April 1, 2009
SMALL forward Robin Nahas shapes as likely to be among the group of players Richmond turns to repair the damage of its breathtaking opening round loss to Carlton. Nahas was last night promoted to the Tigers' senior list and would likely come into immediate calculation for the side to play the Cats down at Geelong this weekend.
Richmond had two senior list vacancies with Kayne Pettifer and Graeme Polak both on the long-term injury list.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/nahas-comes-in-as-tigers-face-axe/2009/03/31/1238261580149.html
There is nothing on RFC or the AFL website about this. Is it true the he "HAS" been promoted or are they just speculating? I personally cant see it based on the reports from the Couburg game, but hey the coaches know what they are doing (or should at least).
I am asking this again . I see nothing on the RFC website or the AFL one to confirm this. HAS he been promoted or not??
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I don't think it's going to matter how often you ask Fluffy, I don't think anyone knows. The original article is the only mention I have seen so I think we are all in the same boat.
The fact that the original article appeared in The Age lends it some credibility but it is not 100% certain it is accurate. Believe it or not papers don't always get it right. (I know that really comes as a shock). If it was the HUN I'd be even more doubtful.
I guess we're just going to have to wait and see.
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Nahas elevated to senior list
Richmond livewire Robin Nahas has been elevated to the Club’s senior list, replacing Kane Johnson.
Johnson injured his knee during the NAB Cup match against Collingwood and has been placed on the long term injury list.
After arriving at the Club via pick eight in the 2008 Rookie Draft, Nahas made an immediate impact on the training track, eventually earning a place in the Tigers’ NAB Cup opener against Fremantle.
The 21-year-old kicked a goal in that match, before playing in the next two NAB series matches against Collingwood and St Kilda.
He has since booted eight goals in two practice match appearances for Richmond’s VFL affiliate, Coburg.
The small forward is renowned for his tackling and goalkicking nous, after his 50-goal performance for Port Melbourne in the VFL last season, which earned him the league’s best young player award.
Nahas is the second Richmond rookie to be elevated so far this season, after ruckman Andrew Browne replaced Kayne Pettifer for a round one debut. for richmondfc.com.au
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/74216/default.aspx
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There you go ;D
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Yeah, hopefully he can mirror his performance at Coburg for Richmond. All the best Robin!
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Richmond livewire Robin Nahas has been elevated to the Club’s senior list, replacing Kane Johnson.
Johnson injured his knee during the NAB Cup match against Collingwood and has been placed on the long term injury list.
So this means Polak isn't on the LTIL :help :pray :clapping
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Looks like Johnson will be out until around mid year then as he now can't play at any level until Round 9 and will need to get match fitness.
I'm sure some people will be happy about that, and Kane at under 100% fitness has often been a liability, however when he's fit he's still a very good player and I think our team will miss his leadership
Haters please form an orderly queue to the left
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I'm sure some people will be happy about that, and Kane at under 100% fitness has often been a liability, however when he's fit he's still a very good player and I think our team will miss his leadership
Haters please form an orderly queue to the left
I agree with that Imfamy.. I know I am in the minoirty but I really do agree with the leadership bit :thumbsup
(haters to Imfamy first thanks ;D)
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Robin Nahas Nickname = Boy Wonder surely?
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Looks like Johnson will be out until around mid year then as he now can't play at any level until Round 9 and will need to get match fitness.
I'm sure some people will be happy about that, and Kane at under 100% fitness has often been a liability, however when he's fit he's still a very good player and I think our team will miss his leadership
Haters please form an orderly queue to the left
Johnson when fit is our best tagger and worth being in our best XXII
Johnson > Jackson
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Johnson when fit is our best tagger and worth being in our best XXII
Johnson > Jackson
Maybe but his time is just about done now, being put on the LTIL is probably the final nail in his coften for his playing career.
Time to move on and develop a better and younger version, be that who it may Jackson, Polo, Hislop, King etc.
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It wasn't the most silky display you'll see (could have kicked 4 if he was on target) but Robin should get a lot of the credit for getting us back into the game early after North jumped us and then kick on in the second qtr with his sheer hard work and desperation. He probably had a quiter second half but he was in everything busting his gut in the first half. I gave him a vote.
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I gave him a vote to MT. I thought his efforts and Jack's efforts in the forward line were pleasing especially once Richo went off. His tackling and second efforts were great. Something we have not been renowned for.
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Rising Star?
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He might be too old. I think he is 21. Not sure GR.
Maybe someone can confirm. If he is eligible why not.
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Rising Star?
I would like to think that Rance is our next most likely nomination. Nahas has shown glimpses and enough to justify a couple of chances, and last night showed a good deal, but Rance has been great since his first game and getting better with each one. Not sure where Thursfield fits in now to be honest.
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Small Tiger bares claws to make big impression
Martin Blake | April 26, 2009
CUSTOMARILY, it is a piece of Matthew Richardson's eccentric brilliance that turns the tide for Richmond. It has been so for years. But last night it was a boy from Melbourne who has spent three years in the VFL trying to prove that size does not matter who did the business.
Robin Nahas is 172 centimetres tall and weighs just 67 kilograms. He looks like he should be riding trackwork at Flemington rather than bouncing up against the gladiators of the AFL and being tossed around like a rag doll. Yet he refuses to bow to any logic.
Nahas, 21, has played three fine seasons for Port Melbourne and only cracked it for a senior AFL game when he was rookie listed by Richmond, and elevated to the primary list upon the injury to Richmond's former captain, Kane Johnson. Last night he played like it mattered in just his third game, burrowing into contested situations, sticking his tackles, attaching himself to bigger men like a gadfly, a 21st century version of Tony Liberatore.
The man-child inspired Richmond, especially in the first half, as it rolled over North Melbourne. Richardson twanged a hamstring early in the second quarter and was largely invisible. But Richmond found another way to break the ice and relieve the pressure on Terry Wallace.
Of course, there was some luck involved. The Tigers would argue they were overdue, but in any event, 13 minutes into the game Daniel Jackson buried North's captain and best player Brent Harvey in a tackle on the half-forward flank, and Harvey stayed down. Harvey would jog off with help from a trainer, his face contorted in pain, and not return. A dislocated left elbow was the diagnosis, a rare injury in football and a serious one.
Harvey's absence hurt North Melbourne badly. The Roos also had Michael Firrito under duress with a leg injury, suffered a minute after the Harvey incident, when the Roos had kicked the first three goals of the game. Lachie Hansen went down later clutching a hamstring in the final quarter, and North ran out of players.
But it would be wrong to downplay Richmond's effort too much. Wallace had lost his best player, Richardson, for a big stretch of the game with a leg injury, too, and while Richo was able to come back on to the ground in the third quarter, he had no impact.
With hindsight it is so clear. The Tigers were never as bad as they were playing in rounds one to four, which is the nature of football. Teams can lose their collective mojo and then the pressure is suffocating, especially at this level.
Last night the pressure valve eased open and suddenly Richmond found that it had some run and carry (through Brett Deledio and Jordan McMahon and newcomer Andrew Collins). It found that the back six, led by Joel Bowden and hard-as-teak tackling and pressure from Chris Newman, could stand up, holding North to just seven goals. It found that Jack Riewoldt (three goals) could present and pack mark and turn around and kick straight up forward and that a pair of inexperienced ruckman (Adam Pattison and Angus Graham) could be competitive.
The Tigers surged to the lead in the second quarter and were never headed.
By three-quarter-time they were 27 points up and then it became a celebration, the breaking of the drought. Deledio, who rose as the game wore on, sprinted through the middle of the ground early in the final quarter on a two-bounce run, looped a handball to Bowden, who drilled it. Bowden, who has seen the worst of times at Punt Road, arched back with both fists outstretched.
Richmond's fans exulted. For now, their pain has eased, and you would not read about it. The Tigers are only a game or so out of the top eight.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/small-tiger-bares-claws-to-make-big-impression/2009/04/26/1240606660223.html
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Small Tiger bares claws to make big impression
Martin Blake | April 26, 2009
With hindsight it is so clear. The Tigers were never as bad as they were playing in rounds one to four, which is the nature of football. Teams can lose their collective mojo and then the pressure is suffocating, especially at this level.
Hallelujah! The first piece of truthful and insightful journalism in the past weeks of trash. Well done Martin Blake. Now, if only some posters on here could be so rational.
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i like him
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His first half was fantastic. For a bloke of 67kgs he is an outstanding tackler IMHO
I gave him a couple of votes
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Was fantastic in the first half and only dropped off slightly in the 2nd half because he rolled an ankle. Great signs for him and our forwardline!
Stripes
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Looks like Johnson will be out until around mid year then as he now can't play at any level until Round 9 and will need to get match fitness.
I'm sure some people will be happy about that, and Kane at under 100% fitness has often been a liability, however when he's fit he's still a very good player and I think our team will miss his leadership
Haters please form an orderly queue to the left
Johnson when fit is our best tagger and worth being in our best XXII
Johnson > Jackson
do you mean at same age partner ::)...not in 2009 , there's no way KJ would displace whako Jacko from the side now avg 21 possies a game , he's fast becoming an important player for us
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Pocket dynamos
Brent Diamond | May 7, 2009
Small players are making a big impact on the game, writes Brent Diamond.
RICHMOND forward Robin Nahas took it in his stride during a visit to Craigieburn Primary School when a year-five student shouted to him: "You look like one of us!"
Tiger teammates — including Graham Polak, Luke McGuane, Jake King and Dean Polo — broke into broad grins. Said Nahas: "Yeah, I've heard it all before."
"A few of my mates give me a lot of stick for being so small," Nahas said. "Obviously the bigger bodies make a major impact, but I have to be smart enough and quick enough to not let it worry me."
At 176 centimetres and 67 kilograms — he put on four kilos during the pre-season — Nahas, 21, is one of the smallest players in the AFL, but a trend in the modern game to take a chance on smaller, faster players led to him being selected in last year's AFL rookie draft.
In his third season at Port Melbourne in the VFL last year, Nahas was inspired to play an attacking forward role by the likes of Cyril Rioli at Hawthorn and speedy duo Lindsay Thomas and Matt Campbell at North Melbourne. Then there's Carlton's Eddie Betts, Geelong's Mathew Stokes, Essendon's Alwyn Davey and Leroy Jetta and Melbourne's Aaron Davey — it seems as if almost every team has a "little fella" these days.
"Those players have really paved the way for little guys like myself to get a chance and that defensive forward (role) is really big in the AFL at the moment. Hopefully, I can model my game around those guys who have been doing it for a few years and really get that aspect of my game up with a lot of tackling and chasing," Nahas said.
Richmond recruiting manager Craig Cameron was at the Demons and part of the brainstrust that selected Aaron Davey in the 2003 AFL rookie draft and five years later selected Nahas at the Tigers. Cameron said the game had swung, with more defensive mechanisms than ever before, making a small defensive forward a key part of the team.
"That (2003) was the time when the Brisbane Lions won the third of their three premierships in a row and everyone was probably looking for bigger bodies and that's why fellas like Aaron (Davey) missed out in the first cut," Cameron said. "But in the end, his leg speed, his decision-making and his ability to kick the ball meant that you couldn't completely ignore him.
"I think the game has shifted to having more defensive mechanisms inside forward 50 … the smaller player, because of their pace, … can cause rundown tackles and cause a bit more defensive pressure on kicks. I think that's what has brought about the need for the small forwards."
Nahas is Cameron's latest small-forward experiment.
"Robin was recruited for exactly that. He can kick the goals, as we saw last year in the VFL, but he's always great at running down and tackling and chasing guys inside 50. Whether he actually gets to a tackle or just the leg speed causes the kick to be under pressure, he's very effective to help our forwards defend," he said.
Hawthorn's list manager, Chris Pelchen, recruited goalkicking dynamo Rioli and Cameron Stokes as part of the "premiership model".
He believes every club needs at least one of these types to win a flag in the current game.
"I think it would be fair to say that you need at least one of those types to fulfil what is the ideal structure of a premiership side over the last decade," Pelchen said.
"I think players like Phil Matera and Aaron Davey probably in the modern era have made it somewhat fashionable to be a small elusive forward."
Pelchen said Rioli added "that electricity to the forward line". His instant effect on the Hawks also had a lot to do with the arrival of another dashing indigenous forward, Cameron Stokes.
"He had a very close relationship with Cyril and they were very, very close friends from childhood. We saw the natural advantage of having the two together which would help them both settle in Melbourne."
Gold Coast's Guy McKenna said the small-forward type was one of the top positions on his shopping list over the next year.
"I think what the game's demanding is for players to win their own ball," McKenna said. "I've obviously worked closely with Alan Didak. He's a great small forward, he's got a great work ethic and he's probably one of the best kicks on his left side that I've seen in the game for a long time."
AFL talent manager Kevin Sheehan said recruiting managers were looking far and wide for "the next Eddie Betts" in under-18 competitions. "I think it's swung around. It's clearly a genuine AFL position and most clubs have got nearly two in the side that have got great creative goalkicking ability and the ability to keep the ball in the forward line," Sheehan said.
"It's a spot, to some degree, the indigenous players have made their own. When you look across the competition, a lot of the smaller forwards are very quick indigenous players who have got freakish abilities around goal and the pace to run down opponents.
"I think it was a lot harder for those players to get a spot in the team before Aaron Davey arrived."
Nahas, who was one of the Tigers' best in their first win of the season against North Melbourne, was elevated from the rookie list — replacing Kane Johnson, who was placed on the long-term injury list — after impressing during the pre-season.
He made his debut against Geelong in round two, but found the going tough against some of the bigger-bodied Cats defenders.
"I played a couple of NAB Cup games and obviously there's a big step up from NAB Cup to round two. It was what I expected — bigger bodies, faster-paced. You really have to be switched on and I was a bit reactive. I've learnt a lot of lessons from that game. It doesn't get much harder than Geelong," he said. "I really want to set myself up to be a consistent footballer. It's going to take a bit of time for me to get used to the pace but I think it's just a matter of time … There's a lot of areas that I have to work on and I think that's the good thing. I've been given an opportunity."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/pocket-dynamos/2009/05/06/1241289239396.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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credit to the guy he's showed tremendus improvement in 3-4 games...hope it catches on :pray
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I was pretty harsh on Robin after his first game....mainly because of his size-not his endeavour.He deserves his spot in the team now.
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Nahas is finding his feet at this level. First time today we got scoreboard damage on top of the forward defensive pressure. Well done Robbie :clapping.
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Superstar in the making. Great to see him being rewarded on the scoreboard with his crumbing after all his relentless defensive pressure.
Team orienated and hard working. The goal he feigned a handball before sidestepping and kicking a goal showed his class not to mention his goal line snap.
Brilliant :bow
Stripes
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if everyone in our team run's, chases and tackles like this guy i would be a very happy man.
He is a great find and once again whoever it was that found him should be thanked.
His following is starting to gather momentum. The supporters love him as do the commentators.
he creates a bit of excitement whenever he goes near the ball. Lets hope it doesn't get to his head. i dont think it will. He looks like someone who is so happy and hungry to succeed after been given a miracle to play at this level.
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Love this kid just keeps getting better, has a real never give up attitude and a big heart, imagine next year after a full pre-season..... :) :)
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Can somebody please tell me the last time we had a small forward who created as much defensive pressure as Nahas.He was Bloody Brilliant today......His work ethic puts all the other forwards to shame.
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At the very least he will ensure pressure is kept on our other forwards to apply defensive pressure.
Great games like yesterday are a huge bonus and a just reward for someone who just keeps going.
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At the very least he will ensure pressure is kept on our other forwards to apply defensive pressure.
Great games like yesterday are a huge bonus and a just reward for someone who just keeps going.
Rodan was the last excitment machine as a small forward but he certainly didn't give the same defensive pressure as Nahas. Even our last great small forward 'Hungry Bartlett' didn't work as hard both offensively and defensively.
He just needs a tall forward to bring it to ground. :help We desperately need a big strong full forward!
Stripes
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Was sensational yesterday
Team orienated and hard working.
Got it in one
The goals were great but the defensive pressure inside our F50 = BRILLIANT
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Small is beautiful
Martin Blake | May 19, 2009
RICHMOND, and league football, almost missed Robin Nahas. Which is a story in itself.
When the Tigers changed plans at the last minute and selected Ben Cousins with its only pick in the December pre-season draft, it handed a lifeline to Cousins that had previously been earmarked for Nahas, a VFL star with Port Melbourne for the previous three seasons. A fine junior player with Oakleigh in his teens, he had been overlooked by recruiters because of his miniature size.
Nahas had spent the 2008 season changing his game to fit the modern AFL style. He had kicked 50 goals as a small forward for the Borough and, more to the point, he had developed a ferocious tackling style that created goals for teammates as Port went to the grand final. He was also best afield for Victoria in an interstate game.
But at the end of all that, he had just a morsel. Richmond took him with pick eight in the rookie draft on the same day the Tigers selected Cousins, and still, the boy from Chadstone would have to wait.
Richmond tried to get a medical exemption to rookie-list Graham Polak so that it could elevate Nahas to the primary list, but the AFL would not allow it. Then, a breakthrough of sorts. Former skipper Kane Johnson went down with an injury, Nahas was elevated, and in just his sixth senior game against Port Adelaide last Sunday he booted five goals. The fifth of those, inside the last minute, came from a tumbling over-the-shoulder snap that put the Tigers in front and should have been the matchwinner; Warren Tredrea had other ideas.
But clearly Nahas can play, which provides another example of how the orthodoxy about small men in AFL football is merely that. Nahas, 21, is just 176 centimetres and a spindly 64 kilograms (four kilos, incidentally, heavier than when he arrived at Punt Road), against a league average of 188 centimetres. Nahas would need a trampoline to ruck against Aaron Sandilands, but he tackles like Tony Liberatore and knows where the goals are.
Gary Ayres, who coached him at Port Melbourne, believes it is more than a good footy story. He believes that too many AFL recruiters are missing diamonds such as Nahas because they look at their size first.
"People (recruiters) were ringing and there was always one doubt, and that was his size," said Ayres yesterday. "The philosophy for us was: it didn't matter, because he got himself into a good form and fitness line. It was a matter of him getting a chance and Richmond gave him that chance. It's no surprise to me he's doing what he's doing."
Ayres had Nahas for a year, and was struck by the player's drive to get better. When they first met at the end of 2007, they had a heart-to-heart where they tossed around ways that he could make himself an AFL player, and a plan was hatched to make him into an Eddie Betts/Alwyn Davey type small forward who would apply tackling pressure. "Defence has to start at full-forward, really," said Ayres. "You get more opportunities to score, it buys time for your defenders so they can have a break. From a defender's point of view, you feel that someone's at you every time you get the ball. Robin's excellent in that area."
Port Melbourne moved him to the goal square, where he flourished. "Robin was very good at getting himself front-and-square and turning players inside out, accelerating away from opposition players. He was just a smart player and his finishing became very, very good."
Ayres had to do some hard work with the recruiters. He believes they spent too much time thinking about his size. "I saw him every week as not being too small, but a lot of (other) people would only see bits and pieces of him. It's easy to identify something now that is supposedly a hindrance. But the great thing about our game is you can be all shapes and sizes, provided you've got footy smarts, you know the game, you get yourself fit."
Actually, it's been a good year for rookies from the VFL. Liam Picken is tagging with uncommon courage for Western Bulldogs, and Zac Dawson his holding down full-back for St Kilda. Ayres believes that with new clubs entering the AFL from Gold Coast and Sydney, the recruiters ought to take some more notice of Victoria's top competition.
"It would be very silly if they don't take a bigger interest in the VFL. You're talking about body-size, you're talking about development and the size of the pool you have. It's really disheartening for the VFL that not many players were looked at last year. That's a shame."
As for Nahas, the next challenge is extra attention. Ayres was encouraged to see that he returned to Port Melbourne several times this season to watch his former teammates. "It's a great story and now he's got an opportunity to fulfil his dream."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/small-is-beautiful/2009/05/18/1242498700106.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Richmond's Rising Star
richmondfc.com.au
By Adrian Ceddia 5:46 PM Tue 19 May, 2009
Richmond rookie Robin Nahas has missed out on a potential NAB AFL Rising Star nomination by just seven weeks, following his five-goal performance on the weekend.
The exciting small forward turned 21 on October 10 last year, making him ineligible for the award.
To qualify for the NAB AFL Rising Star nomination, a player must be under 21 years of age as at January 1 of that year and must not have played more than 10 games to the start of that season.
Nahas has been a revelation for the Tigers this year, after securing his chance on the senior list when Kane Johnson succumbed to a knee injury.
He made his debut in Round Two against Geelong at Skilled Stadium, and has kicked nine goals in six matches.
His five-goal haul against Port Adelaide last Sunday was the most kicked by a Richmond player this year, and catapulted him to equal second place on the Tigers’ goalkicking list behind Mitch Morton.
Nahas was snared by Richmond from Port Melbourne in the 2008 Rookie Draft, after winning the Fothergill-Round Medal as the best young player in the VFL last year.
He also represented the VFL against South Australia in Adelaide last year, kicking four goals. He had an outstanding season with runner-up Port Melbourne, kicking 50 goals.
As an 18-year-old, Nahas played for Vic Metro in the National Carnival and represented Oakleigh Chargers in the TAC competition.
Brett Deledio won the AFL’s Rising Star Award in 2003, while Ben Cousins picked up the honour in 1996 playing for West Coast.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/77168/default.aspx
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Does anyone know what nationality/background is Nahas? (dont' say Australian - he has something in him)
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the name is of israeli origin. but im pretty sure he is turkish
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The something he has in him is Lebanese. So I've read somewhere from someone who spoke to him about it, anyway.
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Does anyone know what nationality/background is Nahas? (dont' say Australian - he has something in him)
Unless you are 100% native indigenous Julz, we all do. It's just the location and generational 'years since' that differs. ;) ;D
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The something he has in him is Lebanese. So I've read somewhere from someone who spoke to him about it, anyway.
If we want to tank this year, perhaps we should get his 30 cousins to dress up in Richmond jumpers and run onto the field to bash anyone who lays a hit on Robbie. That way we'll get done for too many on the field and our score will be reset to 0.
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a couple of not so good signs last night. needs to always understand that he needs to always be a team player and not always look for the individual goal and hilight reel. id almost drop him for a couple of efforts last night ...
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a couple of not so good signs last night. needs to always understand that he needs to always be a team player and not always look for the individual goal and hilight reel. id almost drop him for a couple of efforts last night ...
you got that one right Ramps :thumbsup
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a couple of not so good signs last night. needs to always understand that he needs to always be a team player and not always look for the individual goal and hilight reel. id almost drop him for a couple of efforts last night ...
I was gonna mention the same thing, he seemed a little selfish.
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a couple of not so good signs last night. needs to always understand that he needs to always be a team player and not always look for the individual goal and hilight reel. id almost drop him for a couple of efforts last night ...
I was gonna mention the same thing, he seemed a little selfish.
Yep, learning curve for a young newbie who was part of a team that had been told to go out and take the game on. Not surprised and confident he will learn - if he was a selfish player he would not be nearly as effective with his defensive pressure.
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Bake brings out best in Nahas
By Scott Beveridge Sun 05 July, 2009
A MIDWEEK blast by caretaker coach Jade Rawlings was the inspiration behind Robin Nahas’s four-goal effort against Adelaide on Saturday night.
Both coach and player admit that his attitude to training wasn’t up to scratch.
The 21-year-old responded with a 19 disposal game that almost pinched the game for the Tigers.
“I got a bit of a kick up the backside during the week,” Nahas said.
“My training habits didn’t improve. It’s my first year in the AFL system so yeah it was sort of a bit surreal so I’ve obviously got to improve a lot of areas, coming from the VFL.”
Nahas has already made a list of the areas he needs to improve on, including getting fitter and learning better recovery techniques.
“My fitness base needs a fair bit of improvement, I missed a couple of pre-seasons,” Nahas said
“I’ve got a lot of improvement to go, I’m still missing a few targets which I’ve really got to work on. I’ve got to really work on my disposal and my efficiency.”
Rawlings said the turnaround in attitude has been marked, with Nahas now having 14 goals to his name from 11 games.
“He was sensational,” Rawlings said.
“I had a bit of a chat to him during the week. We’ve got pretty high expectations for Robin Nahas. He’s worked very hard to get himself onto an AFL list and there’s no room for comfort for him.”
Kicking goals is clearly a delight for the small forward, but he says accuracy in front of the big sticks has been a major problem for him this season.
“I’ve missed a lot this year so I’m pretty disappointing with my kicking for goal,” Nahas said.
“Tonight it was good to kick straight, I love kicking a goal but I love tackling more.”
Nahas paid credit to Adelaide’s pressure which forced a number of Richmond turnovers.
However he believed the Tigers five-goal final quarter showed they had plenty to be positive about for the future.
“Obviously our hands weren’t that clean tonight so the boys know what areas they have to improve and we’re definitely going to work harder on the track to fix up those fundamentals,” Nahas said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/80029/default.aspx
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Nahas didn't kick a goal yesterday but the last few weeks he's starting to push into the centre of the ground to provide us with defensive pressure and pace across the middle of the park and not just around the goals. His possession numbers are also up and more consistent over the last 6 weeks (in the mid-high teens). He's just an example of the modern footballer who can contribute both with and without the footy and a type of player we've missed for such a long time. When Essendon were coming at us in the 3rd quarter I thought he gave us the momentum changing play which allowed us to steady with that chase on Welsh where Robin kept persisting and smothered Welsh's handpass on his third effort which gave us back possession and set up a badly needed goal IIRC. You've just got love such persistence to do the team things :thumbsup.
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As Peter McKenna would say. He's a goer that kid. :thumbsup
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Nahas looking for improvement
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen | Tue 06 October, 2009
A GOOD first year, but plenty of improvement to come.
That was the basic summation by Robbie Nahas of his first year at the Tigers, which was capped off with him claiming the "best first-year player" award at the Richmond best-and-fairest presentation.
Nahas went to the Tigers with their first pick in the 2008 NAB AFL Rookie Draft as a mature-age recruit, but played 19 of a possible 22 games after impressing in the pre-season and NAB Cup.
The quicksilver small forward kicked 21.21 for the season, third on the Tigers' list of goalkickers and had 147 scoring contributions, behind only Jack Riewoldt (219) and runaway winner Mitch Morton (272).
But Nahas didn't seem all that thrilled by his output in his first year.
"I missed a lot of opportunities this year, which I'm not too happy with," he told richmondfc.com.au.
"I kicked a fair few behinds, which I've really got to work on in the pre-season, but the chasing and tackling aspects, I think I got to the areas I wanted to.
"Obviously you can always be better and can always improve, and hopefully with a good pre-season under my belt I can lay a couple of extra tackles, and chase a couple of extra players out of the forward 50."
Nahas kicked in excess of 50 goals for Port Melbourne in the VFL in 2008, but said the extra scrutiny this year came from within, not without.
"It's just added pressure on myself in front of the big sticks – I thought 'I've got to kick these' and with that bit of pressure on yourself, you start missing a few.
"When you miss a few it just gets bigger and bigger.
"But I think I've just got to get the routine right, and it should be fine."
With that in mind, the 21-year-old said he was looking forward to his second pre-season.
"(New coach Damien) Hardwick looks fantastic – he's obviously going to change a few things, it's going to be pretty hard on the boys, but we're looking forward.
"We can't wait for 2010 to start."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/85790/default.aspx
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Nahas looking for improvement
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen | Tue 06 October, 2009
A GOOD first year, but plenty of improvement to come.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/85790/default.aspx
Gee I hope he puts on a bit of weight in the off season. He is such a little guy. But I'm pretty happy with him as a pick up so far.
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Lucky Robin Nahas has stolen Tiger hearts
* Sam Edmund
* From: Herald Sun
* December 21, 2009
ANDREW Demetriou had reached Round 8 of this year's Brownlow Medal count when his vaudeville-style pronunciation of a particular surname sparked chuckles in the Crown Palladium ballroom.
"R. Naaaahaaas," Demetriou excitedly yelled. "Two votes."
When the TV broadcast then cut to footage of the next round's highlights, the AFL chief was overheard asking: "Did you like my Nahas?"
"I just heard he enjoyed saying my name," Nahas said.
"I like that, actually."
It's difficult to find anyone who doesn't like Robin Nahas.
How can you not admire a 22-year-old kid who has been made to fight for everything he has achieved in the game.
Too small, not good enough - Nahas has heard it all.
Winning last year's Fothergill-Round Medal as the best young player in the VFL finally broke down a door that had been shut for three years. After playing a starring role for Port Melbourne under Gary Ayres, Richmond decided to give the electrifying goalsneak a chance with its first pick in the rookie draft.
What came next was a debut season of enormous promise.
Despite missing a large chunk of pre-season because of groin problems, Nahas played 19 of 22 games, kicked 21 goals, ranked third for scoring contributions and won the club's best first-year player award.
The diminutive Tiger of Lebanese descent is not your typical young footballer.
You won't get him talking up his graduation to AFL.
"I just got lucky," is how Nahas explains it.
"Gary Ayres was just fantastic. He put me in a position where I had a chance to get drafted. He told me what areas I needed to work on, what area of the ground I should play and what role I needed to play."
His first training session at Richmond was watched by just a few more than the typical handful of Punt Rd diehards. It happened to coincide with the circus that was Ben Cousins' arrival.
"I've come in and there's thousands of people there. It was pretty surreal walking into that," Nahas said.
Suddenly the kid from Salesian College found himself beside the most talked-about bloke in the game, Tigers great Matthew Richardson and a coach who would be fighting a losing battle to save his career.
But any temptation for Nahas to get swept away with his new life was quashed by a normal home life. He lives with his mum Hiam, who moved to Australia from Lebanon 30 years ago, and brother Ronnie, 24, in an Oakleigh house where the door is always open.
"My mum loves having my mates over. They come over every day, it's like a halfway house and even when I'm not there they're there," he said.
"(Teammates) Shane Edwards and Daniel Connors were there having something to eat the other day and a truck load of my mates just came in, grabbed some food and went to watch TV in the other room and they were like, 'What's going on here?'
"I'm lucky I've got a really close group of mates that I'm always around and they take my mind off football. Actually, they don't know too much about football to be honest."
Outside the game Nahas is your typical 22-year-old male who loves his PlayStation.
Soccer game FIFA 10 and war epic Call of Duty:Modern Warfare 2 occupy Nahas' time away from the club as he does battle with opponents from across the globe over the internet.
"I do play a bit of PlayStation," he said. "I play a bit too much I get told. My mates say I'm addicted and that I've got a problem."
He certainly doesn't have a problem finding the footy.
This year's Round 4 clash against Melbourne at the MCG saw Nahas gather 12 disposals, four marks, lay four tackles and kick his first goal.
But more importantly, his second game told him he could survive at AFL level.
"Against Melbourne I laid a couple of tackles, my defensive side of the game was up and I think it just went from there. I just felt a bit more comfortable," Nahas said.
But he claims good fortune. "I think I got a bit lucky with the opportunity at Richmond this year," he said.
"Obviously I fitted a need as a small forward and at the time we didn't really have any and I got an opportunity when I probably didn't warrant it."
Nahas was rewarded with elevation to the senior list at last month's national draft and is determined to prove season No. 1 was no fluke.
He has added strength and size - now topping the scales at 71kg compared to 63kg 12 months ago - on his way to repaying the faith.
"I've just got to make sure I don't slack off now," he said.
And he says coach Damien Hardwick has already left his mark on the players.
"He's been fantastic so far. The whole coaching staff has been extremely positive with the group," Nahas said.
"I think it's just about continuing to enjoy it. I don't go out there with any great expectation. I just go out there and try to have as much fun as possible."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/lucky-robin-nahas-has-stolen-tiger-hearts/story-e6frf9jf-1225812237088
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PS3 a great way to put weight on lol really looking forward to watching the boy wonder rip it up in reason 2010
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PS3 a great way to put weight on lol really looking forward to watching the boy wonder rip it up in reason 2010
;D
Still better than Fiora's favourite past-time of sleeping lol.
Good to hear Robbie has put on 8kgs. A big test for him next year as opposition clubs will know a lot more about him.
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Little man makes the big time
MICHAEL GLEESON
February 3, 2010
IT IS a cruel and unusual punishment for one of the smaller, slighter players in the AFL to be sent to a primary school to address students some of whom are almost as tall.
Some don't even believe that Robin Nahas is an AFL player. Twelve months ago it was not just primary school kids thinking those thoughts. AFL recruiters were equally sceptical of Nahas' ability to make the grade.
Nineteen games later in his debut season, including two Brownlow Medal votes extravagantly announced by Andrew Demetriou, and Nahas has delivered on the idea that short does not mean small and confronted the modern football truism that size matters. He is short, but is a considerable handful.
He started 2009 on Richmond's rookie list after winning the Fothergill-Round Medal as the best young player in the VFL for his impressive 2008 season at Port Melbourne. Then there were no doubts on his talent - only on whether he could take that game to the elite level against bigger bodies. He had similar doubts himself.
"I have come into AFL and everyone is saying I am so much smaller, but to me I am used to being smaller than everyone else,'' Nahas said yesterday at Richmond's community camp in Craigieburn. ''It wasn't a massive thing for me, the only thing was knowing whether I was capable at that level.
''I knew I could play VFL football but I was very nervous going into AFL football based on the fact I finally got given an opportunity it had taken me so long to get, and I was going to take it and that was the scariest thing.
"People say you did it the tough way but obviously being small you need to prove yourself a lot more based on the fact they are going to see if you can play against the bigger bodies. I accept that but I was lucky enough last year to get picked and I probably got a spot when I didn't warrant it. I'll be honest about that, they gave me a couple of games to grow at the top level and I got the opportunity, which was the main thing, and everything went from there."
Nahas is doubtless already sick of stories such as this that dwell on his size. Brent Harvey tired of it years ago. But it is the most eye-catching thing about his game. His boyish size looks out of place, but his ability does not.
The son of Lebanese parents he has crafted a position for himself in the role dominated at AFL level by lightly-framed Aboriginal players - the fast, aggressive-tackling forward pocket.
"I think my tackling and chasing ability is an asset. It means I might not get as many kicks but I might get the ball back for my teammates, which is important," he said.
"I think I am lucky that I am playing AFL because I can just hold on and they can run with me hanging on, where if I was playing rugby I don't think I would be doing much damage.
''But in footy I can just hold on and get the free. Sometimes they fall to the ground and it looks like I have done something but I am just holding on.''
Nahas was given his chance last year by Terry Wallace as the team struggled, and caretaker Jade Rawlings continued to push the young forward. Now he has a new coach in Damien Hardwick to win over.
"I have not established myself and have not achieved anything of what I want to achieve. I just go into this year with the same determination I went into last year, with no room for being comfortable or complacent. I just want to play to Dimma's [Hardwick's] structure and my role in the team.
"Obviously I have worked hard to be at AFL level so I know what it is like not to be playing AFL football. I am not as gifted as some people, I don't have the body size where I can rely on that, so I have to keep on working," Nahas said.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/little-man-makes-the-big-time-20100202-nb2q.html
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So much LMAO in this article.
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So much LMAO in this article.
And yet so much of what is missing in much of the rest of our list. :-[
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Go Cockrobin :thumbsup ;)
:gotigers
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VFL stint fires up Nahas
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Wed 28 April, 2010
RICHMOND forward Robin Nahas says being dropped to the VFL for a couple of weeks was the wake-up call he needed.
Nahas played the first two rounds of the AFL season, but was then sent back to Coburg to work on his game.
He made his return in last weekend's clash with Fremantle, and while 18 touches and three goals was clearly his best return for the season, Nahas said it was just a start.
"I've been very very disappointing so far, so obviously the weekend was just a stepping-stone, and that's probably the bare minimum to keep me in the side each week," he told richmondfc.com.au.
"Defensively I've let the team down, and the weekend was obviously a step in the right direction.
"I obviously want to improve from last year, and the way I started this year was not exactly what I wanted. But it's time to respond now, and hopefully I can continue to do that."
The 22-year-old, who finished third at the club in 2009 for tackles laid, said coach Damien Hardwick was very clear as to why he was being given a run in the VFL.
"Dimma was extremely positive, but he just said the defensive side of my game - which is very important to the side - wasn't up to scratch, and it wasn't impacting games, and I had to go away and work at that.
"I said to him that he was spot-on, and so that's what I tried to do at the VFL, just get the defensive side of my game up.
"Hopefully I can bring that to the AFL, but the weekend was just one game, so I'm not hanging my hat on that at all."
It's often said that most footy is played above the shoulders, and Nahas agreed that his attitude needed adjustment, which two weeks in the VFL made a start on.
"I think it's just an attitude thing, tackling - it's definitely an attitude thing, and it's just intent.
"For whatever reason, for those first two weeks, as much as I wanted to put on that defensive pressure, I wasn't getting myself in the right position offensively to be able to impact defensively at the same time.
"On the weekend it was just a massive focus to be very ruthless defensively and luckily enough, I reaped a few rewards. But like I said, it's only one week."
Richmond has won only won three quarters for the year, but Sunday's Anzac Day clash with a rampaging Fremantle was clearly its best game of the year.
The Tigers booted six goals to one in the first term and still led at the long break before being outscored 11 goals to five in the second half.
But despite the Tigers still looking for a win after five rounds, Nahas said supporters shouldn't lose hope.
"It was really good to play out there on the weekend - in the first half, the way we moved the footy was just like we were at training, we were moving the ball exactly how we wanted and how the coaches had implemented the structures," Nahas said. "Obviously, after half-time we went away from that a bit, but we're a young side, we're going to be up and down a bit throughout the game.
"But I thought it was a very pleasing sign to see us move the ball that way, and each week we're going to get better.
"Our tackles have gone up every week, we've had less missed tackles, and I think we won the possession count in that first quarter.
"Richmond fans have got to understand that it's going to take a bit of time with a new group, but hopefully they can see the improvement, because we definitely can."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/93198/default.aspx
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They always say this - lmao.
"It's what i really needed".
WTF did u need it after such a lengthy pre season?
BS.
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They always say this - lmao.
"It's what i really needed".
WTF did u need it after such a lengthy pre season?
BS.
kicked more goals that frekin Jack .. send him back to coburg
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he deserves a backslap for the way he responded, id pretty well written him off after his woeful start to the year, the tackling he showed on sun night was non existent earlier, and that is a key to his game...he is dead right in that he needs to take that to ea game as a minumin to remain a senior player
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Cuz just confirmed that the "rumours" about Nahas and his massive bananhas in his pyjamhas
"Not taken Nahas to the Brownlow 'cause I can't compete, all the rumours are in fact true"!!
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Little wonder Nahorse has trouble kicking straight.
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The pyramid of giza is a little wonder in comparison
i could murder a kebab right now
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Cuz just confirmed that the "rumours" about Nahas and his massive bananhas in his pyjamhas
"Not taken Nahas to the Brownlow 'cause I can't compete, all the rumours are in fact true"!!
what is this about
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Cuz just confirmed that the "rumours" about Nahas and his massive bananhas in his pyjamhas
"Not taken Nahas to the Brownlow 'cause I can't compete, all the rumours are in fact true"!!
what is this about
Nahas. Wang. Huge.
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Cuz just confirmed that the "rumours" about Nahas and his massive bananhas in his pyjamhas
"Not taken Nahas to the Brownlow 'cause I can't compete, all the rumours are in fact true"!!
what is this about
Nahas. Wang. Huge.
got it. but how would cousins know???
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Athletes shower together. I could have told you Nahas was huge. Used to play basketball with him.
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yes we all know nahas has a big bazuca, schlong meat mallot screw driver johnson salami .....C O C K
but can he use it!, does he have enough blood to fill it, lol,
cos really wgaf how big his manhood is, he cannot play footy at this level and thats what is the issue
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Agree, should be traded. Not up to it
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Nahas gives it a crack
richmondfc.com.au
By Nat Edwards
Fri 25 Mar, 2011
RICHMOND may have lost its opening round clash with Carlton, but there was plenty to smile about for Tigers' fans with full-forward Jack Riewoldt starting the season with six goals.
Riewoldt had 11 kicks and took six marks, four of which were contested. At times he was three-defenders deep, yet incredibly the ball managed to land on his chest.
Teammate Robin Nahas delivered a couple of spearing passes to Riewoldt and says if the full-forward's stellar form continues, the Tigers will be a winning side in 2011.
"A couple of marks he took tonight I just laughed," Nahas told afl.com.au.
"I saw the ball in the air and I thought he's got no chance but somehow it ended up in his hands. His goal kicking has improved out of sight [since] midway through last year.
"He's a great asset to our side and if he keeps firing we'll win a lot more games than we'll lose this year."
Nahas was also impressive throughout the game, spending more time in the midfield and stepping it up a notch in the third term along with Riewoldt.
He was instrumental in the Tigers' six-goals-to-nil comeback, using his speed to create space for his side, and his performance caught the eye of coach Damien Hardwick.
"I thought he was terrific. He showed his capabilities as a player and set himself a standard that I think he needs to live up to," Hardwick said.
"He was really disappointed with his year last year, but I thought when he pushed up into the midfield he looked really, really lively. Granted he takes the game on and causes some blues, but at least he has a crack."
The 23-year-old's work rate all game was outstanding and he finished the match with 13 disposals and four tackles, but despite earning praise from the coach, Nahas tried to talk down his form.
"You know I don't like to talk about myself," Nahas said.
"I think I was okay; consistency is probably the key for me. I'd love to have the four points though. If I didn't get a kick but we got the four points tonight, I'd rather that to be honest."
Last season Nahas struggled to recapture his impressive debut-season form of 2009, playing only 14 senior games.
In round three he was dropped to the VFL and it made the former rookie, who was drafted from Port Melbourne, realise he had fallen behind.
"Last pre-season I didn’t actually work hard enough and I expected things to just roll on from my first year," Nahas said.
"A lot of people say the second year is a lot harder than the first and you can’t expect things to just happen."
But Richmond fans can expect to see Nahas back to his best this year with a move into the midfield an added motivation for the pocket-sized forward.
"Obviously I went away this pre-season and worked extremely hard and got my fitness to where it should be and I hoped I'd be lucky enough to get the chance to play a bit more in the midfield," he said.
"I just had to put down a better work rate, unlike last year. I was very lazy and my form showed that."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/109946/default.aspx
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Nahas was one of the shining lights of the team last night. His run and carry and chases were terrific. The best part was that he had the fitness to continue to do that all game through. Lets pray it shall continue Robby!!
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Nahas played a very good game against Carlton
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Nahas got brushed aside too easily, too many times. He can chase, tackle, harass and run around the outside, but he won't win too many one-on-one contests and he isn't any good in traffic.
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Nahas got brushed aside too easily, too many times. He can chase, tackle, harass and run around the outside, but he won't win too many one-on-one contests and he isn't any good in traffic.
He is not an inside midfielder and never will be but as a wing man running into space he was terrific.
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I would love to see him hang around the forward 50 more, maybe rest him in the pocket and use him as a burst player up the field. Hopefully he can keep up the intensity he showed last night.
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Nahas got brushed aside too easily, too many times. He can chase, tackle, harass and run around the outside, but he won't win too many one-on-one contests and he isn't any good in traffic.
He is not an inside midfielder and never will be but as a wing man running into space he was terrific.
I respect your view, Stripes, and I agree that he is not an inside mid, but he is still too small and gets brushed aside too easily in any sort of traffic. We need an upgrade on him and we need it fast. He lost out in too many contests last night and cost us around stoppages, regardless of where he was supposed to be playing.
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Nahas got brushed aside too easily, too many times. He can chase, tackle, harass and run around the outside, but he won't win too many one-on-one contests and he isn't any good in traffic.
He is not an inside midfielder and never will be but as a wing man running into space he was terrific.
I respect your view, Stripes, and I agree that he is not an inside mid, but he is still too small and gets brushed aside too easily in any sort of traffic. We need an upgrade on him and we need it fast. He lost out in too many contests last night and cost us around stoppages, regardless of where he was supposed to be playing.
I agree regarding his size around stoppages but he showed he was a valuable commodity for our side last Night when we desperately needed players with pace, endurance and elusive capabilities. Perhaps you are right we do need a player with greater size and strength who can fufill this role as well but at the moment I'm happy to keep his around on a wing or forward pocket until that young player come along.
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Thought his contest one on one marking with Heath Scotland when Nahas was out of position was a highlight.
Did some good things.
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Nahas got brushed aside too easily, too many times. He can chase, tackle, harass and run around the outside, but he won't win too many one-on-one contests and he isn't any good in traffic.
He is not an inside midfielder and never will be but as a wing man running into space he was terrific.
I respect your view, Stripes, and I agree that he is not an inside mid, but he is still too small and gets brushed aside too easily in any sort of traffic. We need an upgrade on him and we need it fast. He lost out in too many contests last night and cost us around stoppages, regardless of where he was supposed to be playing.
I agree regarding his size around stoppages but he showed he was a valuable commodity for our side last Night when we desperately needed players with pace, endurance and elusive capabilities. Perhaps you are right we do need a player with greater size and strength who can fufill this role as well but at the moment I'm happy to keep his around on a wing or forward pocket until that young player come along.
Fair enough point, Stripes. I thought, on balance, and I wasn't at the game, he cost us as much as he contributed, by being unable to do his share of blocking the stampede of the Carlton midfielders.
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Nahas was fantatic last night.
All those who continued to heap poo on him (in an utterly boring and repetitive manner) before the season had even begun, need to grow a backbone and acknowledge his good work. Instead of constantly seeking out mistakes from our fringe players.
great work Nahsty. Keep it up! :thumbsup
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Nahas was fantatic last night.
All those who continued to heap poo on him (in an utterly boring and repetitive manner) before the season had even begun, need to grow a backbone and acknowledge his good work. Instead of constantly seeking out mistakes from our fringe players.
great work Nahsty. Keep it up! :thumbsup
Well said! :thumbsup
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Nahas seems to have been given the role to run and carry at every opportunity. It's a high risk/high return role and during the pre season games he was not that effective. He has though got better each outing and the other night he was very good.
Playing this type of role he will at times get caught and look bad or selfish but it is one of the most effective ways of breaking up defensive zones.
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I prefer our young side running and trying to take the game on. Its better than us chipping it around the backline until we cough it up.
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26 touches is a
bloody good effort. On top of all the 1%ers.
Might be the birth of robin tripod nahas.
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26 touches is a
bloody good effort. On top of all the 1%ers.
Might be the birth of robin tripod nahas.
Best game for a while, made a couple of clangers but went hard all day.
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Would be a soooo much better player if he fumbled less. Doesn't go to ground as often as he did and that's why he's improved. Needs a little more composure and cleaner possession and he'll be a real weapon. I think he can learn and improve. Looks better around the midfield. He is not the small forward we are looking for.
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he's improving, is the little big man.
From the diabolical port game last year he has come a long way and may yet be a serviceable player.
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Thought he was fantastic last night. Kept running all night, provided run and was clean by foot. Was a major reason we won last night. :cheers
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Doesn't go to ground as often as he did and that's why he's improved
Nason is the new Nahas, plays like he's doing the 100m backstroke
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Doesn't go to ground as often as he did and that's why he's improved
Nason is the new Nahas, plays like he's doing the 100m backstroke
Full credit to Nahas was told he needed to improve or will be gone by years end.
Must be his new mrs he has aquired, which may i add is an absolute piece.
Nason well how many times can he get thrown to the ground before it gets embarrassing. Too skinny for my liking. I put him in the Edwards category, although his left foot is pretty descent.
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nahas has clearly been told for him to have any impact at the level he needs to attack the pill at full pelt and then carry it at full pelt. to that end he is doing very well, to critisise 1 or two errors as a result is a bit unreasonable. at the rate he ahs worked for the most part of this year he has made a contribution, NO DOUBT
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Credit where is due, he was very good last night
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Doesn't go to ground as often as he did and that's why he's improved
Nason is the new Nahas, plays like he's doing the 100m backstroke
Full credit to Nahas was told he needed to improve or will be gone by years end.
Must be his new mrs he has aquired, which may i add is an absolute piece.
Well we all know what she's in the relationship for
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The anaconda
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The anaconda
Reports are that it's so big, it has to shed it's has to skin every 5-6 days...
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There's still question marks over his size (or rather lack of it) but credit where's it due the past two weeks have been very good from Robbie. He's attacked the footy and his express pace and running through the lines has been needed at crucial times.
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There's still question marks over his size (or rather lack of it)
After following this thread for the previous few posts I'm not sure what question marks you could still have MT? ;D
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Been great last 2 weeks.
Actually in the first 1/2 against north I was calling for his head and wanted him subbed, he must have heard me over the fence.
Needs to bring close to the last 2 weeks consistently.
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Thought he was BOG last night. Surprised with the media reports that had a few in front of him in the bests. Just goes to show that you can learn gut running - I didn't think he had it in him but his 2-way running last night was eye-opening. Something his team mates could learn from.
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Saw this guy play probably his best game for the club last night. Great to see. :o Took the game on and it paid off. Can cement his spot if he keeps it up.
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Great game. Kicked a critical goal in 3rd. Hard work paid off. Keep it up
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has been very good all year with exception of hawks game where everyone was terrible
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Thought he was BOG last night. Surprised with the media reports that had a few in front of him in the bests. Just goes to show that you can learn gut running - I didn't think he had it in him but his 2-way running last night was eye-opening. Something his team mates could learn from.
well said. :thumbsup
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can't fault his work ethic, and like kingy, with it are coming the goals :thumbsup
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Robbie was great tonight. His pace early on was crucial in getting through the free zone plus his two goals helped keep us in it on the scoreboard and then as the game opened up in the second half and we got on top he kept racking it up. He's still very small but Robbie has had his best two games for us in the past fortnight so credit where it's due :clapping.
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Yeah dead on MT.
He was superb. He is tiny but seems to be stronger in the contest and keeping his feet a bit more. I think even though he hasn't put on noticeable mass he has certainly improved his strength. Probably a perfect example of how the new facilities can help improve a player.
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Daniel is very quiet on this thread. Nothing to complain about the fantasy island boy lately.
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Rockin Robin is just the latest player to have his career resurrected by Hardwick.
All of a sudden he is my wife's favourite player. ( and she hasn't even heard the rumours of his large appendage ;D)
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played 90+% game time
ran hard from the start untill the end of the match. looked just as quick at the end of the match.
credit to nahas for getting very fit
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Daniel is very quiet on this thread. Nothing to complain about the fantasy island boy lately.
daniel is a knob, and ppl are all over nahas atm, but one cant forget edwards game, with 14 goal score involvements
great games by nahas and titch
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Some of our much maligned players are stepping up.
Great to see.
Robbie has been nothing short of inspirational these past couple of weeks.
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Some of our much maligned players are stepping up.
Great to see.
Robbie has been nothing short of inspirational these past couple of weeks.
yep add king to that and rance and grimes down back, just shows dimma is a coach unlike wallet
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Some of our much maligned players are stepping up.
Great to see.
Robbie has been nothing short of inspirational these past couple of weeks.
yep add king to that and rance and grimes down back, just shows dimma is a coach unlike wallet
Ain't that the truth.
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Rocket Robin
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Tue 10 May, 2011
Robin Nahas’ form, over the first seven rounds of the 2011 season, has catapulted him into the front line as an early contender for the title of most improved player in the AFL competition.
The speedy small man, who was selected by Richmond in the 2009 Rookie Draft, and subsequently promoted to the senior list, has played a pivotal role in the Tigers’ hat-trick of wins over the past three rounds, across the forward line and through the midfield.
After a promising start to his AFL career in ’09, culminating in him winning Richmond’s Best First Year Player award, Nahas’ form fell away in 2010 and he was seemingly at the football crossroads. But a huge pre-season enabled him to reach the best fitness levels of his playing career, and he’s now reaping the benefits.
In his 2009 debut season, Nahas kicked 21 goals and averaged 14 disposals per game in his 19 appearances. The following year, his figures dropped to 14 games, 13 goals and an average of 12.5 disposals.
This season, however, in seven matches, Nahas is averaging 19 disposals per game, with seven goals to his credit. He is ranked No. 3 at the Club for handballs with 68, No. 8 for total disposals with 133, and No. 2 for tackles with 38.
Nahas has been in the Tigers’ top three players on the ground during the past three weeks, gathering 26 disposals, with six marks and four tackles against North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium in Round 5; 26 disposals, with nine marks, seven tackles and three goals against Brisbane at the MCG in Round 6; and a career-high 30 disposals, with seven marks, four tackles and four goals against Fremantle at the ‘G’ in last Saturday’s Round 7 clash.
Gut-running has been a real feature of his game this season, along with his trademark pace, tackling pressure and goal sense.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/113511/default.aspx
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Gee he has really proved some people wrong hasn't he.
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Gee he has really proved some people wrong hasn't he.
He is playing really well but I don't think we can say he's proved people wrong. Needs to be consistent (which he has been so far this year). Hopefully he is still playing well come the end of the season
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Gee he has really proved some people wrong hasn't he.
He is playing really well but I don't think we can say he's proved people wrong. Needs to be consistent (which he has been so far this year). Hopefully he is still playing well come the end of the season
Yep agree but a lot of people were calling for him to be dropped every week and Hardwick persisted with him and look now, so that would prove a few wrong. But he does need to be consistent.
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Up until 3 weeks ago he was still on the verge IMO, massive improvement in workrate since then.
Needs to keep it up, not necessarily at the current level but close to it and show the workrate and he keeps his place no worries.
Funny game footy & Sport in general actually, so much above the shoulders if you have the base to work with.
2 Players I thought would be the big movers in Conners and Morton, HELLO! You guys around or what?
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Up until 3 weeks ago he was still on the verge IMO, massive improvement in workrate since then.
Needs to keep it up, not necessarily at the current level but close to it and show the workrate and he keeps his place no worries.
Funny game footy & Sport in general actually, so much above the shoulders if you have the base to work with.
2 Players I thought would be the big movers in Conners and Morton, HELLO! You guys around or what?
Yeah I thought Morton would be a massive part of our wing/forward line this year with cameo's in the midfield....just hasn't stood up. Lets hope he can.
Connors I thought would have been a real asset down back.....I will still reserve my judgement on him at the moment.
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COnnors has been injured with a quad injury - well that's what he said last week pre-match
Due to play for Coburg this weekend, he also said he expected to play 2-3 games at Coburg to get match fitness
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Robin Nahas
Rocking Horse ;D
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COnnors has been injured with a quad injury - well that's what he said last week pre-match
Due to play for Coburg this weekend, he also said he expected to play 2-3 games at Coburg to get match fitness
Ahh, thats right!!
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COnnors has been injured with a quad injury - well that's what he said last week pre-match
Due to play for Coburg this weekend, he also said he expected to play 2-3 games at Coburg to get match fitness
How very impartial of you WP. ;D
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Daniel is very quiet on this thread. Nothing to complain about the fantasy island boy lately.
daniel is a knob, and ppl are all over nahas atm, but one cant forget edwards game, with 14 goal score involvements
great games by nahas and titch
the only fools on here on you both.
Lets look at Nahas come round 22 shall we
Only have to look back on the Tambling remarks of last year to know you have no absolutely no idea.
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I can't remeber tambling having 3 weeks of form equal to nahas
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I can't remeber tambling having 3 weeks of form equal to nahas
We received overs in the Tambling trade.
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well over :thumbsup
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Nahas over the past 3 weeks has the 2nd most dreamteam points (124 per game) in the whole comp. Matthew Boyd has only done better.
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Nahas was tagged tonight by Slattery. Hardly a superstar but still hard to get touches when being locked down by even a dribbler.
19 touches and 2 goals. Pretty good effort when being tagged. Slattery only had 9 tackles himself.
Stringing multiple good games together is Robin. :clapping
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'Beep, beep': Richmond's Road Runner Robbie Nahas
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
May 28, 2011
WHEN Robbie Nahas' career reached a plateau last season, the Tiger rover decided it was time for actions to speak louder than words, writes Jon Ralph.
ROBBIE Nahas doesn't want a shred of complacency to enter his psyche, and you can understand why.
Back in 2009, when he was Richmond's best first-year player, AFL boss Andrew Demetriou sealed his status as a cult figure by gushing "R Nahaaaaaassss" on Brownlow Medal night.
Then the music stopped.
"I didn't play anywhere near good enough football to get close to a Brownlow vote last year," Nahas says.
"He must have been disappointed."
Think labels such as "flash in the pan", "VFL regular" and "career in crisis".
So now, just two months into the best season of his career, Nahas doesn't even really want to do an interview in case his astounding form slips away like last time.
Doesn't want to jinx the type of form that has some people labelling him the AFL's most improved player.
But, as it turns out, he is warm and engaging, happy to chart his rise and fall in the football cauldron.
"I thought last year it would just evolve after my first year, but you find out pretty quickly it's not how it works," he tells the Herald Sun.
"Last year this wasn't a good place for me. The AFL isn't a good place when you are not playing well.
"I wanted to be part of the team when we had that great patch of wins, and I wasn't, and it was all my fault because I wasn't playing well enough to be in the side. I got extremely complacent.
"I just thought things would roll on, that everything would continue from the previous years.
"I guess I learnt the hard way that it doesn't work like that."
Ten rounds into this season, Nahas, 23, is second at Richmond for tackles, third for marks and loose-ball gets, fifth for scoring assists and sixth for disposals and handballs.
He averages 20 touches, five tackles and a goal per game - career-best numbers.
What it adds up to is a player not just on the rise, but also determined to stay there.
If you haven't caught this week's Fox Sports promo for Richmond's clash against Port Adelaide, don't expect to hear about Brett Deledio or Trent Cotchin.
The commercial exhorts you not to miss Richmond's stars in Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin and (cue deep, booming voice) "Robbie Naaahaass".
But if the hype is building, Nahas knows he can't get ahead of himself again.
"I have only played nine games of consistent footy this year," he says. "It's not even half a season. It's absolutely nothing. Some guys play years of consistent footy."
So how did the former Oakleigh Charger, recruited from VFL team Port Melbourne, get his bounce and vitality back?
Four simple words from Tiger assistant coach Wayne Campbell.
"Wayne Campbell told me to enjoy the hard work," Nahas says. "I knew I could get extremely fit and so did (fitness coach) Matt Hornsby, and he pushed me hard and set some goals.
"It was hard to enjoy (the pre-season) but that stayed with me, and luckily enough I did end up enjoying it a bit.
"I just tried to stay with the top group - Daniel Jackson, Shane Edwards and Matt White - just sit on them.
"I couldn't early in the pre-season because they were fitter but, as it went on, I still couldn't catch Jacko and Whitey but I stayed with Shane and that helped me.
"I knew it was a make-or-break year. I had one year left on this contract, and I knew I wanted to be here. If I worked hard enough I could produce good footy."
Richmond forwards coach Danny Daly was with North Melbourne scrutinising prospective draftees when he first heard of Nahas.
Nahas had not done enough to push for selection with TAC Cup club Oakleigh - "Size had a bit to do with it, but I just wasn't good enough," 176cm Nahas says - but he was starring with Port Melbourne.
"We had a rookie pick three after him and we were looking at having him based on a midfield role," Daly says.
"He spent a lot of time at Port Melbourne as a winger, but we wanted to use him in that Aaron Davey role.
"Now footy has changed with the press and it gives small blokes a chance to run the lines. He has that lateral movement and he can ease through packs.
"Basically we are playing him as a high forward who gets up the ground and plays as a second winger who can run through the lines, find space, then work his way back inside 50m to equalise numbers and put pressure on in there."
Nahas is doing that with telling effect, all of it based on one elementary plan.
"It's pretty simple. I tell myself before every game - just run. Nothing else. It's all about work rate for me."
Nahas is one of 10 rookies on the Tigers' primary list, with more rookies successful in AFL football from 2001 than players picked above selection 40.
Daly says it is about the determination of VFL players and rookies to make up for lost time.
"They train two nights a week (in the VFL) and work or go to uni, and you never know how much upside they have in them.
"They understand hard work already. Some of the kids you draft at 40-plus think they have made it already and don't work as hard, and maybe that has something to do with it."
As well as that lift in intensity, Nahas spent the summer working on the clean ball-handling that makes good midfielders elite.
When it comes to elite speed he was already packing heat. Now he has all the weapons to sustain his improvement.
Nahas says he has finally found the balance between hard work and the right type of play. He admits he used to spend too much time at home on his mum's couch.
"I played a lot of PlayStation but I don't play it any more, which has helped. It's not banned, but Dimma (coach Damien Hardwick) said to me last year, jokingly, 'Mate, no more PlayStation'.
"Dimma is really big on balance outside footy and this year I have been doing a bit of property (work) and that makes things easier."
Richmond is playing winning football this year, making it a great place to be.
"Footy is a fun game when you win," Nahas says.
"We are a really tight-knit group and we spend a fair bit of time with each other away from footy and I think it shows. Most supporters would see we really care for each other."
Contract talks have already started for Nahas, but he won't even consider that as a security - there is too much to achieve this year, and too many traps he has fallen into before.
"I don't want to leave this club," he says. "It has given me my opportunity. I owe them a lot. Hopefully I can repay them with plenty of years of consistent football.
"I don't want to come in, have a little go and then say, 'See you later'. I want to stay and hopefully build towards a succesful era for the Richmond Football Club."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/beep-beep-richmonds-road-runner-robbie-nahas/story-e6frf9jf-1226064500876
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Seeing the bad habit of losing his feet re-appear at times tonight.
Still put together a good half though.
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It's most likely pure garbage but here's the latest BF rumour:
"Now guys, dont hate me. It's just a rumour so dont go bashing me here. I have a good friend of mine who has inside information about Robin Nahas being a done deal to GWS. Will we get anything for him? And if so, what? Discuss."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21393103&postcount=1
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It's most likely pure garbage but here's the latest BF rumour:
"Now guys, dont hate me. It's just a rumour so dont go bashing me here. I have a good friend of mine who has inside information about Robin Nahas being a done deal to GWS. Will we get anything for him? And if so, what? Discuss."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21393103&postcount=1
wouldnt be suprised at all.
Infact hope it happens if we get one of the 16 yr olds in play
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Makes sense, he would be a good fit for GWS demographics.
Wouldn't worry me in the slightest, I'd back a draft pick to become a better player for longer.
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It's most likely pure garbage but here's the latest BF rumour:
"Now guys, dont hate me. It's just a rumour so dont go bashing me here. I have a good friend of mine who has inside information about Robin Nahas being a done deal to GWS. Will we get anything for him? And if so, what? Discuss."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21393103&postcount=1
wouldnt be suprised at all.
Infact hope it happens if we get one of the 16 yr olds in play
True he would be a option as he's not an untouchable. Robbie has been in a very good form for us this year after looking gone in 2010 but his slight body is likely to be exposed in finals intensity where there is less time and space.
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It's most likely pure garbage but here's the latest BF rumour:
"Now guys, dont hate me. It's just a rumour so dont go bashing me here. I have a good friend of mine who has inside information about Robin Nahas being a done deal to GWS. Will we get anything for him? And if so, what? Discuss."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21393103&postcount=1
wouldnt be suprised at all.
Infact hope it happens if we get one of the 16 yr olds in play
True he would be a option as he's not an untouchable. Robbie has been in a very good form for us this year after looking gone in 2010 but his slight body is likely to be exposed in finals intensity where there is less time and space.
Then he'll be perfect as GWS won't be ready for finals until 2016 the earliest. By then we'll be on the cusp of realising Benny Gale's 3-0-75 dream. ;D
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Robbie had an ordinary game (not robinson crusoe there) despite getting a heap of footy especially early on. Credit to him for trying to get some flow into the team but he just tried too many baulks and fancy stuff too often and turned over the footy. In high pressure situations his light frame doesn't enable him to break from tackles. My question mark on him thinking ahead to eventually when we make the finals and if he can stand up to finals pressure.
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Lost his mojo, playing like a Lebanese cucumber at th moment
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I reckon he needs to do a few more u-turns. 267 yesterday was simply not enough.
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I reckon he needs to do a few more u-turns. 267 yesterday was simply not enough.
REMINDED me of David Rodan yesterday. If he goes down this track then hes Richmond career should be brought to an end.
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I reckon he needs to do a few more u-turns. 267 yesterday was simply not enough.
REMINDED me of David Rodan yesterday. If he goes down this track then hes Richmond career should be brought to an end.
Craig Cameron probably slapped an extra 3 years on his contract when he had a purple patch a while back
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Not big enough, tries but that's it.
Trade him to GWS. Makes too many errors. Fact that he has found a new niche should serve us well at the trade table and possibly make him more tradable to other clubs.
Notice Hawthorn Geelong and Collingwood have all traded their own players over the last few years and traded for players who have been huge contributors to flags.
Memo to Dimma trade players for picks and invest unless its a definite win for straight player swap.
Nahas= trade bait.
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Robbie had an ordinary game (not robinson crusoe there) despite getting a heap of footy especially early on. Credit to him for trying to get some flow into the team but he just tried too many baulks and fancy stuff too often and turned over the footy. In high pressure situations his light frame doesn't enable him to break from tackles. My question mark on him thinking ahead to eventually when we make the finals and if he can stand up to finals pressure.
And I thought I was the only one thinking this yesterday ;D
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on such a dark day with an all round poo performance Robbie is the only player who could go close to holding his head high.
Yeah, he made some mistakes but this is probably due to the laziness of the majority of the side in not backing up or working hard to create options.
he worked hard all day and many players could take a leaf out of his book in this aspect
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Clearly our best player today. :thumbsup
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on such a dark day with an all round poo performance Robbie is the only player who could go close to holding his head high.
Yeah, he made some mistakes but this is probably due to the laziness of the majority of the side in not backing up or working hard to create options.
he worked hard all day and many players could take a leaf out of his book in this aspect
Thought Rance put in as well.
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Rance was outstanding. He was one of the very few to take a mark in the backline. His disposal was good as was his desperation. Agree Nahas tried hard. Jack was good. Kicking four goals with so little supply. Cotchin never gave up and was one of the few he won contested ball.
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I thought Robbie was one of few better players who actually tried his guts out and tried to get some run and flow to our game. My only criticism of him is he doesn't have a left foot and constantly needs to circle back to get on his right when cornered on the left wing which gives the opposition those extra 5 seconds to get numbers back.
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Speaking of which, I noticed dusty was constantly kicking off the outside of his right foot ( the few times he actually kicked it) rather than kicking on his left. It's not like he doesnt have a left foot ???
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Robbie interviewed after the game...
"Damien [Hardwick] has been working with me over the last three weeks to change my role a bit," he said.
"He's wanted me to run harder into the forward 50 - probably not get as much of the ball but try and impact on the scoreboard a lot more.
"It's great coaching to be honest."
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/120981/default.aspx
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LMAO! "It's great coaching to be honest."
Little stuffin habibi gets to kick goals-of course he loves it. :lol
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:lol
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Nahas was interviewed on Radio Sport National (the old Sport 927) yesterday. Here's the full audio:
http://www.radiosportnat.com.au/audioplayer/1314233487.mp3 (http://www.radiosportnat.com.au/audioplayer/1314233487.mp3)
The 23-year-old has played all 20 games this season, kicking 21 goals and averaging nearly 20 possessions per game.
He attributes his improvement in 2011 to a huge pre-season, which provided his fitness levels with a significant boost.
“Coming off the rookie list, you don’t get too many chances to impress, and my year last year was pretty bare, so I knew that I had to come in this year and give everything I had,” Nahas said.
“I knew I had to get myself super-fit and really impress because when you get your chances at AFL level you’ve got to take them . . .
“Fitness is one of the massive keys to playing AFL football . . . being able to run from contest to contest puts you in many more positions to get the football.
‘If you’re continually running all day, sometimes, by luck, you get the ball because you just seem to be in the right spot.
“That seemed to happen to me this year, where I was capable of getting from contest to contest, and the more contests you get to, the more ball you can win.”
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/121908/default.aspx
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Robbie looks enthralled to be at MMM today lol.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/428222946.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1319094237&Signature=3ipF6jp%2F43eJ2le%2F%2BHwKLkCbge4%3D)
http://twitpic.com/72yaxu
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saw robbie today at the club. He was the only one in the gym. ::)
My friend decided to go up to him and give him some ideas of how to improve his game. :banghead :banghead
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You blokes normally highlight the points in interviews. Not sure how many here listen to triple M so I'll try and do the same thing. I've always got Triple M on at work and in the car. I'm the leading hand in my section of the workshop which also happens to be where the radio is so I have final say, but I can't handle SEN all bloody day. I need to zone out to some cool bogan tunes :p anyway:
*Nahas grew up a mad Geelong supporter.
*Lives with his mum rent free.
*Shouted his mum to Lebanon last year.
*his mum calls him 'mum.' He said it's a 'Leb' thing.
*Favourite food is garlic prawns...
*He said he is unsure if he, Kingy or Grigg will get a short break after the International Rules matches or will be straight into preseason.
*he said the plan is consistency and to not have those mid year slumps where it's like the team ventured off into the wilderness.
*enjoys playing in the forward line because he reckons the different chants for each player from the cheer squad give him a laugh.
Yeah they aren't as regimented on the Ms with the interviews :lol. Especially when it's Wilba doing the questions. Brayshaw said he was stoked to finally get Nahas in the studio because Nahas, Jack and King are their favorites. When Brayshaw first introduced Nahas he made mention to the new feel of the Tigers including the new logo but didn't ask for Robbie's thoughts on it.
There ya go. A little light hearted :p
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Cheers dwaino :cheers
*enjoys playing in the forward line because he reckons the different chants for each player from the cheer squad give him a laugh.
His chant is pretty simple - Rob-bie Na-has Rob-bie Na-has Rob-bie Na-has lol.
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Robbie turns 24 today :birthday
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Small Tiger shows bite
By Nick Bowen
7:42 PM Sat 14 Apr, 2012
AT HIS best, Robin Nahas is as captivating as any small forward playing the game.
The 49,826 people who attended Richmond's 59-point win over Melbourne at the MCG on Saturday were lucky enough to see the 24-year-old Tiger at his very best.
Against the Demons, Nahas kicked 2.2, had three scoring assists, 21 possessions and six inside-50s.
Yes, these are good numbers for a small forward. But they don't truly capture the extent to which Nahas ran Melbourne's defence ragged, or the way he was able to create scoring chances out of nothing, with his speed, evasive trickery and selfless passing.
In Richmond's match-winning nine-goal third quarter, Nahas had a direct hand in two.
First, he shimmied his way around several Demons defenders and hit Shaun Grigg with a well-weighted pass. Four minutes later, he won a free kick after pinging Melbourne defender Colin Garland in a tackle, then - not for the first time - left everyone in his wake, playing on and goaling unopposed in the goalsquare.
In the last quarter, Nahas was at his brilliant best again, making Demons defenders look like witches hats as he ran along the boundary line and set up a Trent Cotchin goal with a banana-kick that hit his teammate on the chest.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick enjoyed Nahas' performance almost as much as the fans. But he said after the game Nahas had to learn to produce his best more often.
"He's probably had an inconsistent build-up to the year, but I think today when he plays genuinely inside that forward half of the ground, and when we get the ball in to that level, he certainly can cause some sides some trouble," Hardwick said.
"His tackle pressure I thought was enormous ... but that's a thing that keeps those (small forwards) in the game.
"He's still got some work to do, Robbie, he's still got to learn to work his way through quiet patches. But we're certainly happy with the way he's going at the moment."
Nahas, himself, was even more reserved about his performance after the game. Like most modern footballers, he deflected the credit elsewhere, praising Richmond's defenders for their pressure and his midfielders for their "very deep" inside-50 entries in the second half.
Nahas also said he was just as happy to be dishing off goals to teammates as he was scoring them himself.
"It's always good to assist your teammates, either way it's six points, so it really doesn't matter who kicks it," Nahas said.
"So if the guys are in a better place than me, I'm definitely going to kick the ball to them."
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/newsId/133096/Default.aspx
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Loved some of his clever evasive work today, he got out of traffic that should not of been possible on multiple occasions
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it's a shame he cant kick on his left though. that would round his game off nicely
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Return to form for Nahorse. As the article suggests, he's a quality player when he's up and about.
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His chasing and his energy was top notch. Played a great game. Good on him. Really exposed a top heavy Melbourne which he had to do
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Vision of Nahas' weave and pass ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/440089/Nahas%20weave%20and%20pass/
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Sthpeshal!
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why he was in the red jacket against the skunks has me stumped when we had Jackson running around like a headless rooster making mistakes
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Must have had a shut down job on an eagle today. Did anyone see who it was?
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Must have had a shut down job on an eagle today. Did anyone see who it was?
Has he ever played well at Etihad????? I think the tighter ground and deep pockets don't suit him at all......but then again Milne seems to do ok there :-\
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Well, if he didn't have a shutdown job, he's had a shocker. Can't recall seeing him rove one attacking contest. Our tall forwards didn't do too bad a job bringing the ball to the ground, but Nahas didn't get near too many.
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Was horrible, his opponent was running off him at will in the first half
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Our small forwards are just about worst in league.
Nahas wouldn't get a game anywhere.
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Our small forwards are just about worst in league.
Nahas wouldn't get a game anywhere.
Yp theyve probably been let off the hook whilst the blow torch was on you know who....too right theyve given us zippo
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Was terrible today. Too small and doesn't lead to space enough. A midget who tries to body taller opponents :wallywink
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yes i thought robin had a poor game this evening too
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Cost us two goals in a tight game with poor disposal and ring a ring a rosey.
Unless Ellis was injured Hardwick stuffed up subbing him off and not Nahas.
Woeful. WOuld rather have Webberley in the side atm.
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1 good game out of 5.
Today was poot again :banghead
We just cant afford to carry 4-5 players each round who are ineffective. Neman, white, Vickerys, Nahas, Jackson, etc etc etc No wonder we can't beat the better teams, and trust me they aren't even playing that good. We have been lucky.
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Whaever Dimma said to Robbie after his shocker in Essendon game seems to have worked. He's been very good in our past two wins.
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had to laugh when he jumped on the players back like a jockey in applying a tackle. Umpire paid a free for in the back against him. He never pushed him in the back :banghead just jumped on for a ride ;D
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probably the most dangerous small forward last night.
Wish he was more consistent.
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I loved it when he got the too high free in the last. Was giving it too the St Kilda player all the way back on to their feet.
Nice dish off to Dusty for his goal too.
Was glad he wasn't going to be selfish and try to kick it himself as the distance was beyond him from a set shot perspective.
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Robbie was on the Sunday Footy Show today.
* The show started with a flick back to the Eagles lost with images of the players after the game devastated and Dimma saying it was our most disappointing loss and that our season starts now (round 6). They then showed highlights from our wins since, the Tiger Army going nuts and the commentators saying the sleeping giant has awoken. It was great stuff to get the Tiger blood pumping :thumbsup
* Barrett asked Robbie what has changed since that Eagles loss in round 5? Robbie said we lost both to Geelong and the Eagles by just 10 points so we knew we had improved as both sides beat us comfortably last year. Since then we've just continued to improved and work on our structures.
* Robbie was then asked do you feel you're now on your way and the belief is there? He said yep the belief is there. We're 5-5 so we just need to keep on improving and keep on playing with the same intensity week in week out.
* He was asked 'did you think you had lost it when the Saints came back and hit the front in the last quarter?' Robbie replied the old Richmond would have but we now feel we are still in the game no matter the position and can win.
* Robbie knew he was going to be asked about big Ivan so he asked Ivan how would you describe yourself. Big Ivan told him he describes himself as 'ethnic' :lol
* He praised all our defenders - Rance, Grimes, Griffs, Houli, Newy, Morris, Dea, .... Griffs came in for Grimes and has done his role well. Morris is the hardest footy player he's ever played with.
* Of our mids his favourite is Cotch. Cotch is vice captain now so becoming our future captain will be a natural progression.
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Nahas at his slick, quick best
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Mon 09 Jul, 2012
Richmond’s dangerous small forward Robbie Nahas underlined his value to the team with a lively four-goal display against Melbourne at the MCG last Saturday.
On a day where the Tigers found it extremely difficult to steer the ball between the big sticks, Nahas’ goalkicking effort was invaluable.
He kicked 4.1 out of Richmond’s total of 13.23, to help lift the side to a crucial 23-point victory.
Read the whole article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/140902/default.aspx
VIDEO: Nahas kicks 4
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/466973/default.aspx
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ivan loves him so he stays on the list
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ivan loves him so he stays on the list
have heard it's robbie's job to pick the nits out of the mullet after playing collingwood, carlton and essendon
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:lol
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One of the few who kicked straight. Showed alot of courage. Couple of times in 3rd quarter should have got free kicks for high tackles. Good game. Seems to like playing against Melbourne
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just thought id bring this thread up.
some having a go at me because i continue to criticise this bloke despite him kicking a few goals.
what i see.
1/ skills - has no penetration in his kicking.
hes so one sided its not funny lost count of the times this has cost us goals. totally lacks polish for a little guy.
2/ always falling over its a constant.
3/ size- well that encompases several things.
is constantly brushed aside, hes just not strong enough one on one or when over the ball.
4/ just does not get involved in games enough. a common theme is him going missing for huge chunks of games.
all these things and more have been and remain constants with this bloke. he is not a afl quality small and despite him bobbing up in the odd game kicking goals we must do better than him.
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Consistency a big issue
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Would rather Nahas than King.
Yep one sided and tries to beat the same man twice too much dancing and prancing before disposing of the footy but as I said if we had to play one would rather play Nahas than King.
Need someone more solid yet nippy who can play both sides of the body.
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Would rather Nahas than King.
Yep one sided and tries to beat the same man twice too much dancing and prancing before disposing of the footy but as I said if we had to play one would rather play Nahas than King.
Need someone more solid yet nippy who can play both sides of the body.
has so much more in the kit bag than kingy who really is lucky to be getting a game to be frank....yes he may be a past master at the 1%ers but sheesh dropping chest marks. and failing to kick goals as a FP..cashes in most of them ::)
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Would rather Nahas than King.
Yep one sided and tries to beat the same man twice too much dancing and prancing before disposing of the footy but as I said if we had to play one would rather play Nahas than King.
Need someone more solid yet nippy who can play both sides of the body.
has so much more in the kit bag than kingy who really is lucky to be getting a game to be frank....yes he may be a past master at the 1%ers but sheesh dropping chest marks. and failing to kick goals as a FP..cashes in most of them ::)
Not all of them BJ.
Nahas can tend to go missing in games against the real elite sides. Memo to Collingwood Geelong W Coast games this year and a special mention to both Nahas and King in the Essendon game and throw in Miller who played that night how we got that close with those 3 and the petulance of Jack who kicked 1 goal was quite remarkable. If only one of those three as Miller footy wise is not much had stood up well I won't go into the variables.....
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trade him. maybe therell be a club who has seen that he has kicked afew goals this season and we can pinch a draft pick for him.
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Reckon Robin cops a raw deal. Not many small forwards have been better than him this year.
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Both robin and jake play their role well.but both play under the limitation at the moment of not having a big "pack splitter" centre half forward
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nahas has kicked near 30g hasnt he...nice work if you can get it ::)
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Some facts for balance
- Robbie is equal 5th for small forwards in goals kicked to date. Only Milne, Jetta, Rioli and Betts have kicked more.
- Of the top eight (by goals kicked) small forwards he has laid the 3rd highest amount of tackles.
- He's our second highest goal kicker.
Earning his pay based on that.
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Some facts for balance
- Robbie is equal 5th for small forwards in goals kicked to date. Only Milne, Jetta, Rioli and Betts have kicked more.
- Of the top eight (by goals kicked) small forwards he has laid the 3rd highest amount of tackles.
- He's our second highest goal kicker.
Earning his pay based on that.
Consistency a big issue
good points with both of these posts. also agree with claw.
No use Robbie kicking 5 when it doesn't matter. I want to see him kick goals in big games (which he is capable of). It just comes down to consistency. If he's not kicking goals then he's not providing us anything that is of great value
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The stats say it all, RN has heaps of go, tackles and creates goals, if JW had his work ethic....
for me I think Robbie is the least of our worries at Tigerland. He created 2 goals on his own against North while Jack was sulking.
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just thought id bring this thread up.
some having a go at me because i continue to criticise this bloke despite him kicking a few goals.
what i see.
1/ skills - has no penetration in his kicking.
hes so one sided its not funny lost count of the times this has cost us goals. totally lacks polish for a little guy.
2/ always falling over its a constant.
3/ size- well that encompases several things.
is constantly brushed aside, hes just not strong enough one on one or when over the ball.
4/ just does not get involved in games enough. a common theme is him going missing for huge chunks of games.
all these things and more have been and remain constants with this bloke. he is not a afl quality small and despite him bobbing up in the odd game kicking goals we must do better than him.
There you go Claw we agree again. :thumbsup
I think Nanas has done a great job for himself but let's face it he's never gonna be big enough, skillful enough or have enough impact for finals footy.
I think he'd definately be a great option for trade.
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I worry long term how many smalls can fit in the side.
Nahas and king might be one too many. Let alone white. A maric. Foley etc.
That said nahas has tricks and he's proven at vfl level.
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The secret is not how many smalls you have but how good they are!
Example: Geelong
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If i was opposition list manager and Nahas came up for trade would take him in a heartbeat
Might wanna watch the 3rd quarter against the saints again that was 30 minutes of cream
Does go missing not consistant but he does impact games in small amounts of time
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people wonder why we missed finals again too many like nahas. the lack of quality is screaming at us.
yes hes kicked some goals, and in that one regard hes done well. by seasons end 30 or more small/med players will have kicked at lest 20 25 goals. the good ones like milne lecras betts will kick 50 plus again and again this is what we should be aiming at.
he chases he applies tackles every single sml forward good poor or average must do these things. theres one thing laying a tackle and another laying an effective tackle.
someone said hes our second biggest goal scorer what does that mean, andy collins was our second highest scorer one yr.
i can categorically say this bloke will let us down time and time again when we need players to stand up the most, i can say this because of his weaknesses they will always crumble under pressure.
arent people sick and tired of seeing players with poor skillsets wearing the richmond jumper.
the work load and weight of the club has been on the shoulders of the likes of deledio cotchin tuck grigg and will continue to be when the likes of king nahas white edwards are getting a regular game. these blokes should be making a significant contribution thru the midfield yet most of the time they struggle to get their hands on the ball to compound matters they have little polish or class and usually waste opportunities when you need them to stand up and be clean and concise with their skills.
we cant continue to play these types if we wish to takle the next step. we must find players who are more well rounded and whos skills wont crumble under pressure.
i for one have been waiting far too long for us to become a good side im sure oeveyone else has too. we need to go to the next level and the simple facts are some players are not going to take us there.
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If i was opposition list manager and Nahas came up for trade would take him in a heartbeat
Might wanna watch the 3rd quarter against the saints again that was 30 minutes of cream
Does go missing not consistant but he does impact games in small amounts of time
Like nearly all good small forwards.
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people wonder why we missed finals again too many like nahas. the lack of quality is screaming at us.
yes hes kicked some goals, and in that one regard hes done well. by seasons end 30 or more small/med players will have kicked at lest 20 25 goals. the good ones like milne lecras betts will kick 50 plus again and again this is what we should be aiming at.
Like all of our weaker players claw, until we have someone who can take him place he is our best option by a large margin. We have no one else who has the pace or skills to crumb and earn us opportunist goals. Perhaps this is an area we need to look into. Could our PNG rookie fill the role?
We are very light on in the crumbing forward department particularly now that the role includes time in the midfield :-\
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The secret is not how many smalls you have but how good they are!
Example: Geelong
Not many teams win flags with a fleet of midgets
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people wonder why we missed finals again too many like nahas. the lack of quality is screaming at us.
yes hes kicked some goals, and in that one regard hes done well. by seasons end 30 or more small/med players will have kicked at lest 20 25 goals. the good ones like milne lecras betts will kick 50 plus again and again this is what we should be aiming at.
Like all of our weaker players claw, until we have someone who can take him place he is our best option by a large margin. We have no one else who has the pace or skills to crumb and earn us opportunist goals. Perhaps this is an area we need to look into. Could our PNG rookie fill the role?
We are very light on in the crumbing forward department particularly now that the role includes time in the midfield :-\
stripes it been shown time and time again with us that we keep them and the tmptation is to play them regardless. if they arent there you cant play em.
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ive pointed out his weaknesses how does he stack up against his peers at other clubs.
just about every small/med forward at other clubs id prefer to nahas based mainly on their strengths and weaknesses. just some that spring to mind
adelaide - porplysia, knights who cant get a game.
carlton - betts and garlett. garlett has had a lousy season but kicked 21 goals to date.
collingwood - dont really have small forwards, their genuine small forwards are expected to be a significant part of their midfield rotations beams sidebottom thomas blair fasolo are all infinatey better players than nahas, add krakouer as well when fit a bloke we cut and rightly so is better than our so called best small forward.
essendon - geez hands up who think alwyn davey is a good player i certainly dont. hes kicked 26 goals so far this yr they have monfries and jetta as well all better options than nahas.
freo - fyfe mayne and ballantyne.
geelong - chapman motlop varcoe menzel johnson even stokes all better players than nahas and they give something in the midfield. they rotate thru and takee the load of their mids they dont drop away when these blokes rotate thru
gcs - harley benell comes straight to mind.
hawthorn - rioli, bruest, osborne, lewis all come to mind. all better than nahas.
melbourne - green yes green hes an infinately better player than nahas.
north - harvey harper edwards id take over nahas every day of the week. i dont include thomas because hes too like nahas with his skills and other areas yep hes kicked 30 goals as well.
port - robbie gray comes straight to mind ebert as well both are better than nahas.
stkilda milne saad scnieder i would take all three in front of nahas.
sydney - jetta mcglyn okeefe
wce - lecras and nicoski who they havent had this yr hill and hams are either better in hills case and hams is skill wise as well. these are their 3rd and 4th stringers
wb - you woulld take higgins every day of the week.
simply put if we want to catch and pass most clubs in this area we must do better than nahas king white and company.that is what we are about atm catching and passing other clubs in all areas.
its only my opinion but nahas does not have the skillset or physical attributes for the level and he does not stack up against his peers.
yes he kicks a few goals but fails in nearly every other area needed to play at the level. sheesh including talls there must have been 90 odd players last yr kick 20 or more goals.
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ive pointed out his weaknesses how does he stack up against his peers at other clubs.
just about every small/med forward at other clubs id prefer to nahas based mainly on their strengths and weaknesses. just some that spring to mind
adelaide - porplysia, knights who cant get a game.
carlton - betts and garlett. garlett has had a lousy season but kicked 21 goals to date.
collingwood - dont really have small forwards, their genuine small forwards are expected to be a significant part of their midfield rotations beams sidebottom thomas blair fasolo are all infinatey better players than nahas, add krakouer as well when fit a bloke we cut and rightly so is better than our so called best small forward.
essendon - geez hands up who think alwyn davey is a good player i certainly dont. hes kicked 26 goals so far this yr they have monfries and jetta as well all better options than nahas.
freo - fyfe mayne and ballantyne.
geelong - chapman motlop varcoe menzel johnson even stokes all better players than nahas and they give something in the midfield. they rotate thru and takee the load of their mids they dont drop away when these blokes rotate thru
gcs - harley benell comes straight to mind.
hawthorn - rioli, bruest, osborne, lewis all come to mind. all better than nahas.
melbourne - green yes green hes an infinately better player than nahas.
north - harvey harper edwards id take over nahas every day of the week. i dont include thomas because hes too like nahas with his skills and other areas yep hes kicked 30 goals as well.
port - robbie gray comes straight to mind ebert as well both are better than nahas.
stkilda milne saad scnieder i would take all three in front of nahas.
sydney - jetta mcglyn okeefe
wce - lecras and nicoski who they havent had this yr hill and hams are either better in hills case and hams is skill wise as well. these are their 3rd and 4th stringers
wb - you woulld take higgins every day of the week.
simply put if we want to catch and pass most clubs in this area we must do better than nahas king white and company.that is what we are about atm catching and passing other clubs in all areas.
its only my opinion but nahas does not have the skillset or physical attributes for the level and he does not stack up against his peers.
yes he kicks a few goals but fails in nearly every other area needed to play at the level. sheesh including talls there must have been 90 odd players last yr kick 20 or more goals.
cant beleive you not mention a brownlow medallist who does the most damage in thier forward line DANE SWAN
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Fyfe a small forward? :huh
A lot of medium forwards and mids in that list Claw
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The kid's produced 3 improving & consistent years - goals, goal assists, tackles. Though his average disposals is down from last year he has already beaten last year's goal tally by one and has 4 games to go.
There are times when he gets smashed ( i.e last few minutes against Roos) and he struggles the following week - but he shows courage despite not being built. I suppose those are the occupational hazards of the lightly built types - and most teams have them.
PS Collingwood will have Andrew Krakouer in a similar role when he gets back.
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Fyfe a small forward? :huh
A lot of medium forwards and mids in that list Claw
well i did say mediums and smalls. i include mediums because if we had any at all we would play em instead we play 3 or 4 smalls that have no polish.
fyfe started as a forward and has quickly shown he can be a big part of their midfield. much like sidebottom thomas beams have.
did not mention swan as i consider him a mid but your right monk he does go forward and do a bit of damage. didnt mention didak either.
this is just opinion we all have em im just letting people know after people have ahd a dig what i think of nahas where i rate him and what i think is wrong with his game.its opinion its no more right or wrong than the next blokes.
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The kid's produced 3 improving & consistent years - goals, goal assists, tackles. Though his average disposals is down from last year he has already beaten last year's goal tally by one and has 4 games to go.
There are times when he gets smashed ( i.e last few minutes against Roos) and he struggles the following week - but he shows courage despite not being built. I suppose those are the occupational hazards of the lightly built types - and most teams have them.
PS Collingwood will have Andrew Krakouer in a similar role when he gets back.
did mention krakouer bpb.
but lets not get caught up in who should or should not be ranked as a forward what for me is plain as day is nahas is well down the pecking order when copared to his peers.
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Fyfe a small forward? :huh
A lot of medium forwards and mids in that list Claw
well i did say mediums and smalls. i include mediums because if we had any at all we would play em instead we play 3 or 4 smalls that have no polish.
fyfe started as a forward and has quickly shown he can be a big part of their midfield. much like sidebottom thomas beams have.
did not mention swan as i consider him a mid but your right monk he does go forward and do a bit of damage. didnt mention didak either.
this is just opinion we all have em im just letting people know after people have ahd a dig what i think of nahas where i rate him and what i think is wrong with his game.its opinion its no more right or wrong than the next blokes.
:thumbsup
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Fyfe a small forward? :huh
A lot of medium forwards and mids in that list Claw
:yep
Some rubbish comparisons in there, Craw.
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The kid's produced 3 improving & consistent years - goals, goal assists, tackles. Though his average disposals is down from last year he has already beaten last year's goal tally by one and has 4 games to go.
There are times when he gets smashed ( i.e last few minutes against Roos) and he struggles the following week - but he shows courage despite not being built. I suppose those are the occupational hazards of the lightly built types - and most teams have them.
PS Collingwood will have Andrew Krakouer in a similar role when he gets back.
did mention krakouer bpb.
but lets not get caught up in who should or should not be ranked as a forward what for me is plain as day is nahas is well down the pecking order when copared to his peers.
Based on what criteria. Facts backed up by stats or your opinion ?
Rant about McDonald not wanting it/making it. Rant about TT not making it/wanting, but when a player squeezes the talent out of himself and is doing well compared to his peers is well ...
Oh and his possessions are down because he is not rotating through the midfield. He proved he could rotate through the midfield but Our gameplan wants/needs a deep crumber. He's equal 5th in the AFL as a crumbing forward for goals kicked. That's FACT. Not an OPINION a FACT.
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What does that mean? He's ranked 5th for goals he has got by getting front and centre or he is just ranked 5th in goals for crumbers?
WGAF :lol
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Tradebait
30 goal a year fwd
ethnic flavour
substantial inheritance
Lock it in CC
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again to all its only my opinion based on nahas strengths and weaknesses.
geez it was not that long ago we were having a similar debate about a bloke called pettifer. he was another chronic glass half full who supporters defended to the hilt for yrs on end because he managed to kick a few goals here and there but the weaknesses in his game prevented him from ever being a good afl player.
because we hung on so long to him and his type his weaknesses prevented us from ever raising the bar enough to become a finals side. we not only did it with pettifer but many players.
pettifer should have been axed after about 3 or 4 yrs but lasted for what 8 or so.
robbie nahas plays some decennt footy at times but he is a glass half full and we must be looking for better. yes hes kicked some goals but struggles in every other aspect of the game.he is not the answer.
we have been here before under wallace making 9th with mainly average players and a shedload of glass half fulls who promise much but never deliver because their weaknesses means playing at afl standard on a consistent basis is not possible.
we cant get over the top of good sides because of the jacksons nahas kings etc etc they are the bottom 5 or 6 in the 22 and they fall away too much.
we have been here at this point before do we learn or do just make the same mistakes again.
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I wasn't Pettifer's biggest fan but he was a better player than Nahas (and a lot of the duds we still have and had in Kayne's time at the club). Petts was soft and had average efforts defensively but the bloke worked hard and was a good hit up forward with great hands. From 05 to early 08 he played 70 odd consecutive games and kicked over 100 goals. In 2006 he was very good.
The year he should have been sacked was 2008.
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I shall declare my hand and state that I know the Robin via playing cricket with his older brother. They are both very feisty and fighters, and give it their best at all times on the pitch. But they are always prepared to do the right thing by the team. Last time I spoke with Robin he said that he had actually been told to drop weight from last year so he could maintain pace as the game will be getting quicker and quicker.
I reckon the kid knows his weakness and is doing his best to improve. Basically he has no control over his training - it is all scheduled - even the amount of kicking for goal he is allowed to do. Another year under his belt and I reckon he will improve again. If he doesn't then others will be waiting in the wings to take his place and I shall be with you Mr Claw - but in the scheme of things he deserves another year.
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petts prob was between the ears
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we cant get over the top of good sides because of the jacksons nahas kings etc etc they are the bottom 5 or 6 in the 22 and they fall away too much.
Put Jackson aside. He gives nothing. Youve mentioned Edwards as well before. Get rid of him, has zip going for goal but no poise and always sprays the ball. Has no zip going the other way. Doesn't like physical contact. Throw in white, no zip for a supposedly quick player and has had plenty of opportunities to prove himself. Should be a good player but isn't.
Nahas and King have been our best small forwards. They are in the top dozen players in the list. Not the bottom half a dozen.
When King fires up, we usually win games. Unlike more fancied players like Vickery who fold the moment they get a knock to their shoulders, King is still out there despite his injuries putting his body on the line. You won't win a flag with players who don't like physical contact. Thats guaranteed.
In terms of skill. Nahas is a very interesting player. Sometimes he can only kick 30m. But we have all seen him kick goals from outside 50. He is a very capable footballer. There is a gap between his best and his worst. But then, you could make that argument for Riewoldt and the rest of the forward line. You could make that argument for RIOLI. Thats a common trait amongst small forwards. Big part of it is delivery and performance of their bigger cousins. Plenty of players to delist or trade before you look at your best small forward. That is just common sense.
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we cant get over the top of good sides because of the jacksons nahas kings etc etc they are the bottom 5 or 6 in the 22 and they fall away too much.
Put Jackson aside. He gives nothing. Youve mentioned Edwards as well before. Get rid of him, has zip going for goal but no poise and always sprays the ball. Has no zip going the other way. Doesn't like physical contact. Throw in white, no zip for a supposedly quick player and has had plenty of opportunities to prove himself. Should be a good player but isn't.
Nahas and King have been our best small forwards. They are in the top dozen players in the list. Not the bottom half a dozen.
When King fires up, we usually win games. Unlike more fancied players like Vickery who fold the moment they get a knock to their shoulders, King is still out there despite his injuries putting his body on the line. You won't win a flag with players who don't like physical contact. Thats guaranteed.
In terms of skill. Nahas is a very interesting player. Sometimes he can only kick 30m. But we have all seen him kick goals from outside 50. He is a very capable footballer. There is a gap between his best and his worst. But then, you could make that argument for Riewoldt and the rest of the forward line. You could make that argument for RIOLI. Thats a common trait amongst small forwards. Big part of it is delivery and performance of their bigger cousins. Plenty of players to delist or trade before you look at your best small forward. That is just common sense.
Excellent post!
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we cant get over the top of good sides because of the jacksons nahas kings etc etc they are the bottom 5 or 6 in the 22 and they fall away too much.
Put Jackson aside. He gives nothing. Youve mentioned Edwards as well before. Get rid of him, has zip going for goal but no poise and always sprays the ball. Has no zip going the other way. Doesn't like physical contact. Throw in white, no zip for a supposedly quick player and has had plenty of opportunities to prove himself. Should be a good player but isn't.
Nahas and King have been our best small forwards. They are in the top dozen players in the list. Not the bottom half a dozen.
When King fires up, we usually win games. Unlike more fancied players like Vickery who fold the moment they get a knock to their shoulders, King is still out there despite his injuries putting his body on the line. You won't win a flag with players who don't like physical contact. Thats guaranteed.
In terms of skill. Nahas is a very interesting player. Sometimes he can only kick 30m. But we have all seen him kick goals from outside 50. He is a very capable footballer. There is a gap between his best and his worst. But then, you could make that argument for Riewoldt and the rest of the forward line. You could make that argument for RIOLI. Thats a common trait amongst small forwards. Big part of it is delivery and performance of their bigger cousins. Plenty of players to delist or trade before you look at your best small forward. That is just common sense.
theres about a dozen players out of contract of which about 7 will be cut this yr. nahas is neither out of contract or one of the first 7 or 8 on the list that needs to go so we are not talking about this yr.
all im saying though is we need to do better than this glass half full that sums him up perfectly glass half full so so many deficiencies in his game. in time he does indeed need to go. we need to be actively looking for much better than the likes of king nahas white and edwards who i think has had a solid 8 or 10 weeks. imo theres a spot for just one of these 4 atm that would be edwards until he drops off again and he will.
sorry but i disagree about both king and nahas being top 12. kings performances have been in the main terrible for over a yr but hey we love battlers who have a dip.
the analogy i have for why they get games is they are the best of a poor bunch.
they are in the top 16 - 22 only because atm we dont have players good enough or developed enough to force them out.
when you think about it we only have three specialist sml/med forwards on the list who can push them out, and they are either worst performing maric,, walked out the door macdonald, sacked connors, rookie and not ready turner, or just not developed ohanlon. imo they are getting games by default. the simple fact we have such deficient players who lack any sort of polish in our regular 22 regardless of where you rate them is the reason why we fail to get over sides.
we also should look at why we cant find a quality sml/med forward. thats simple look at where every single one on the list has been taken. they are either late picks or rookie picks you never get much polish from there. edwards is the only one taken in the first two rounds and he was taken as a mid with a huge tank failed as a mid and now on his last chance as a forward.
the glass half full who does a bit then regresses then does a bit then regresses again are the exact types we have failed to cut and improve on over the yrs. we have regularly given them 7 8 9 yr careers hence we have remained mired in mediocrity. nahas atm may be a better option than others but he sure as hell is not the answer. if these types are on your list the temptation is to play them instead of develop another because at the time you get a bit more out of them yes they are in the best 22. cut them may mean a little bit of short term pain dont cut them and in the long term yoiu remin mired in mediocrity.
matt white does not have the ability to make it he never did. 7 yrs of not making a decision about his weaknesses which are the things that prevent him from ever being a good afl player we have to be better than that.
with nahas and king their deficiencies will always be there they will always revert to being vfl players because of them far too often with them too much of load will be left to other to carry which is what happens now.
again its just my opinion but imo now is the time to really start making some hard decisions on the glass half fulls.
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theres about a dozen players out of contract of which about 7 will be cut this yr. nahas is neither out of contract or one of the first 7 or 8 on the list that needs to go so we are not talking about this yr.
again its just my opinion but imo now is the time to really start making some hard decisions on the glass half fulls.
In a year or now? Do you even know what you are saying?
30+ goals in a side that's under performing isn't a glass half full performance by any stretch of the imagination. Why don't you go into the Jackson and Edwards threads and stick the boot into them and come back here when and if Nahas performances ever reaches their levels on a consistent basis.
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we cant get over the top of good sides because of the jacksons nahas kings etc etc they are the bottom 5 or 6 in the 22 and they fall away too much.
Put Jackson aside. He gives nothing. Youve mentioned Edwards as well before. Get rid of him, has zip going for goal but no poise and always sprays the ball. Has no zip going the other way. Doesn't like physical contact. Throw in white, no zip for a supposedly quick player and has had plenty of opportunities to prove himself. Should be a good player but isn't.
Nahas and King have been our best small forwards. They are in the top dozen players in the list. Not the bottom half a dozen.
When King fires up, we usually win games. Unlike more fancied players like Vickery who fold the moment they get a knock to their shoulders, King is still out there despite his injuries putting his body on the line. You won't win a flag with players who don't like physical contact. Thats guaranteed.
In terms of skill. Nahas is a very interesting player. Sometimes he can only kick 30m. But we have all seen him kick goals from outside 50. He is a very capable footballer. There is a gap between his best and his worst. But then, you could make that argument for Riewoldt and the rest of the forward line. You could make that argument for RIOLI. Thats a common trait amongst small forwards. Big part of it is delivery and performance of their bigger cousins. Plenty of players to delist or trade before you look at your best small forward. That is just common sense.
theres about a dozen players out of contract of which about 7 will be cut this yr. nahas is neither out of contract or one of the first 7 or 8 on the list that needs to go so we are not talking about this yr.
all im saying though is we need to do better than this glass half full that sums him up perfectly glass half full so so many deficiencies in his game. in time he does indeed need to go. we need to be actively looking for much better than the likes of king nahas white and edwards who i think has had a solid 8 or 10 weeks. imo theres a spot for just one of these 4 atm that would be edwards until he drops off again and he will.
sorry but i disagree about both king and nahas being top 12. kings performances have been in the main terrible for over a yr but hey we love battlers who have a dip.
the analogy i have for why they get games is they are the best of a poor bunch.
they are in the top 16 - 22 only because atm we dont have players good enough or developed enough to force them out.
when you think about it we only have three specialist sml/med forwards on the list who can push them out, and they are either worst performing maric,, walked out the door macdonald, sacked connors, rookie and not ready turner, or just not developed ohanlon. imo they are getting games by default. the simple fact we have such deficient players who lack any sort of polish in our regular 22 regardless of where you rate them is the reason why we fail to get over sides.
we also should look at why we cant find a quality sml/med forward. thats simple look at where every single one on the list has been taken. they are either late picks or rookie picks you never get much polish from there. edwards is the only one taken in the first two rounds and he was taken as a mid with a huge tank failed as a mid and now on his last chance as a forward.
the glass half full who does a bit then regresses then does a bit then regresses again are the exact types we have failed to cut and improve on over the yrs. we have regularly given them 7 8 9 yr careers hence we have remained mired in mediocrity. nahas atm may be a better option than others but he sure as hell is not the answer. if these types are on your list the temptation is to play them instead of develop another because at the time you get a bit more out of them yes they are in the best 22. cut them may mean a little bit of short term pain dont cut them and in the long term yoiu remin mired in mediocrity.
matt white does not have the ability to make it he never did. 7 yrs of not making a decision about his weaknesses which are the things that prevent him from ever being a good afl player we have to be better than that.
with nahas and king their deficiencies will always be there they will always revert to being vfl players because of them far too often with them too much of load will be left to other to carry which is what happens now.
again its just my opinion but imo now is the time to really start making some hard decisions on the glass half fulls.
some good points in there claw
small fwd/mid we should be looking at in this year's draft with our first pick is ben kennedy, real class, can mark & tackle, play fwd as a pocket or lead up, in/out mid
i will say though that some of the small fwds above nahas from other clubs have come from late picks and off the rookie list, betts, milne, etc. and i think there was a study done of all the rookie picks from all clubs ever taken and the highest hits in terms of getting AFL contributors was small fwds – obviously there is a scale of class there but it has proved a successful pathway so we dont necessarily need to use early picks to get an upgrade on nahas
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theres about a dozen players out of contract of which about 7 will be cut this yr. nahas is neither out of contract or one of the first 7 or 8 on the list that needs to go so we are not talking about this yr.
again its just my opinion but imo now is the time to really start making some hard decisions on the glass half fulls.
In a year or now? Do you even know what you are saying?
30+ goals in a side that's under performing isn't a glass half full performance by any stretch of the imagination. Why don't you go into the Jackson and Edwards threads and stick the boot into them and come back here when and if Nahas performances ever reaches their levels on a consistent basis.
how hard is it to comprehend he cant be cut now but hes not a long term keeper because of his many many deficiencies.
if you think we cant do better than nahas and king fine talk em up. just kicking goals is not enough in todays game remember pettifer or morton lots of ordinary players kick 25 odd goals a yr geez morton kicked 50 odd in a season did that make him a good well rounded footballer.
i tell ya what lets keep all the glass half fulls lets not change the list obviously in your opinion we have no need to do this.
the bar is set very low for some it seems.
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If he can't be cut now, what is the point of bagging him for playing good footy. Most footballers have deficiencies. You need to look at the other side of the ledger. Great tackler, electric pace, fierce determination and ability to kick goals from anywhere. That more than makes up for any perceived deficiencies. If he stopped doing these things, then you would have a platform to whine.
If I used your method of assessing the list, I reckon Bartlett wouldn't have played a game. Too small. Too light. CULATER.
You don't need 22 superstars to win a flag. You need 22 players and a coach that perform better than their opponents on the day. Nahas does that more often than not.
You keep hammering the Morton/Pettifer angle like it means anything. They rarely tackled, never chased. Completely different players. But following your logic. Did getting rid of them win us a flag? Did getting rid of Bowden make us more flag friendly? Did playing Tuck in the reserves last year make us more of a flag contender? Cost us a finals series. Did getting rid of Knights help Richmond or Essendon? How many glass half full players have Melbourne cleared out. The glass is completely empty now. Is that what you want for Richmond.
What this club needs is a winning mentality. Little guys like King and Nahas are winners. We need more winners. Edwards and Jackson and co are losers. Doesn't really matter where they were picked in the draft. They must go.
The problem with Richmond is, nothing has changed. They will keep wasting their draft picks recruiting more junior duds who will dissapear into one of the worst development systems in the league. The only real hope is free agency and the brand of the football club luring ready made talent.
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isnt this the robin nahas thread where we talk all things nahas not just the pretty rose coloured things. isnt this where you either rate him or or you dont.
for you well you rate him good for you. me hes not good enough and never will be. hes another chapter or part of the glass half full culture that people think will get us to finals but it never happens. hes capable of playing some good footy but he invariably doesnt stack up and drops away.
if you were to judge him only on his strenghts and lets face it they are few and his weaknesses which are many he would never ever get drafted.
you your happy to keep a player who you think, tackles well lol, electric pace no quicker than any other small worth his salt and if wanted get picky could complain about it., determiation i will grant you that one he sure tries hard, lol kicks goals from anywhere now the blinkers are really on. for everyone he gets lucky with his onesidedness and lack of penetration or precision costs us two or three.
me i fully expect him to have all of the above and.
not be the most one sided player in the comp his left foot is non existant, especially for a small player relieng on making the most of every opportunity he really needs to be classy and hes far from that.
. i expect his tackles to actually be effective, your not looking to close if you dont see the numerous times hes just brushed aside.
i expect the foot skill he has on the right to be exemplary because he has no left but it lacks penetration and lets him down far too often.
i expect him to hold his own in one on ones and when over the ball which does not happen and never will. i expect him to stay on his feet, and i expect as i do with any player like him to be a significant part of midfield rotations and we dont drop away to much.
as a 25 yo i expect him to be more involved and consistent in a game rather bobbing up now and then and in the main kicking a cheap goal.
all of these i consider basics and certainly expect them of most players let alone a small we have on the list whos supposed to be mature and in his prime.
nope its your preogative to rate him and think we cant and shouldnt be aimimg for better its exactly that kind of thinking that has seen us mired in mediocrity.
finally there are plenty of good small players in the comp but in the main they are not anyhere near as limited as nahas with his skillset or his output. if you used my method of assesing the list you wouldnt be satisfied with the mediocre nahas but aiming for a better more rounded player.
you obviously get your knickers in a twist if anyone dares criticise a player you like. well tough, he deserves criticism and i wont be changing my assesment of him ive seen more than enough of him to know if we want to improve as a side we need to do better then players with so many weaknesses in his game.
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theres about a dozen players out of contract of which about 7 will be cut this yr. nahas is neither out of contract or one of the first 7 or 8 on the list that needs to go so we are not talking about this yr.
again its just my opinion but imo now is the time to really start making some hard decisions on the glass half fulls.
In a year or now? Do you even know what you are saying?
30+ goals in a side that's under performing isn't a glass half full performance by any stretch of the imagination. Why don't you go into the Jackson and Edwards threads and stick the boot into them and come back here when and if Nahas performances ever reaches their levels on a consistent basis.
how hard is it to comprehend he cant be cut now but hes not a long term keeper because of his many many deficiencies.
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From what you post, nearly impossible.
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Robin Nahas is your classic kebab half-eaten type.
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Robin Nahas is your classic kebab half-eaten type.
The last half being the best due to all the sauce dripping down to the bottom, suggesting Nahas' best is still to come :cheers
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Robin Nahas is your classic kebab half-eaten type.
The last half being the best due to all the sauce dripping down to the bottom, suggesting Nahas' best is still to come :cheers
FFS, even Dwaino can see it :lol
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The last half always ends up on your chest
therefore Cleve Hughes Mk II
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
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Didnt Stevie Milne have that problem for most of his career? (not sure now however) but recall Grant Thomas saying that was his weakness year in year out and funnily enough Milne will go down as one of the great small fwds. Small fwds tend to struggle against the better sides which is perfectly understandable
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
He averages 1.5 goals a game. He betters that against 2 sides and just below against 3. Not sure you're stats actually support your argument too much. So 5 of 8 he's actually going to average.
The better sides are the better sides coz they win more games. Thus they stop all our forwards not just Robbie.
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
He averages 1.5 goals a game. He betters that against 2 sides and just below against 3. Not sure you're stats actually support your argument too much. So 5 of 8 he's actually going to average.
The better sides are the better sides coz they win more games. Thus they stop all our forwards not just Robbie.
when 1.5 is the total a .5 drop off is enormous thats a 33.3% drop off against the better sides.
unbelievable the length supporters will go to defend their favorites.
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
He averages 1.5 goals a game. He betters that against 2 sides and just below against 3. Not sure you're stats actually support your argument too much. So 5 of 8 he's actually going to average.
The better sides are the better sides coz they win more games. Thus they stop all our forwards not just Robbie.
when 1.5 is the total a .5 drop off is enormous thats a 33.3% drop off against the better sides.
unbelievable the length supporters will go to defend their favorites.
And in 2 games way above average. And we also won the hawks game.
And btw: You need to learn comprehension. No where in any of my posts have I claimed he's a favourite. All I'm trying to do is create some objectivity. I don't have to agree with you. Didn't realise that was a site rule. I assumed that one could have a discussion and post a differing point of view without being derided.
Pot-kettle-black at all.....
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
He averages 1.5 goals a game. He betters that against 2 sides and just below against 3. Not sure you're stats actually support your argument too much. So 5 of 8 he's actually going to average.
The better sides are the better sides coz they win more games. Thus they stop all our forwards not just Robbie.
when 1.5 is the total a .5 drop off is enormous thats a 33.3% drop off against the better sides.
unbelievable the length supporters will go to defend their favorites.
I don't have to agree with you. Didn't realise that was a site rule. I assumed that one could have a discussion and post a differing point of view without being derided.Pot-kettle-black at all.....
Gee that is rich coming from you :cheers
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I have absolutely no stuffing idea what you're on about.
Persecution complex much....
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I have absolutely no stuffing idea what you're on about.
Persecution complex much....
You never could understand others or their opinions. Although I am sure you have a stat that proves me wrong here. :lol
Luke McGuane's career highlight = giving Kurt Tippett a bath. Even though Tippett kicked 4.4....
;D
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Whatever floats ya boat...
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I have absolutely no stuffing idea what you're on about.
Persecution complex much....
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I have absolutely no stuffing idea what you're on about.
Persecution complex much....
Why are you such a smart person all the time?
:wallywink
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hey HEY HEY! whats with the foul language old man?
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hey HEY HEY! whats with the foul language old man?
Foul language?
:lol
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This thread has degenerated, the only dick is Robbie - damn big one too. One, two, three goals a games and a few tackles is all you can and could ever ask of a small forward. That's Robbie. A small, big forward. Get a grip people. And if Robbies nearby, you'll need both hands >:(
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
He averages 1.5 goals a game. He betters that against 2 sides and just below against 3. Not sure you're stats actually support your argument too much. So 5 of 8 he's actually going to average.
The better sides are the better sides coz they win more games. Thus they stop all our forwards not just Robbie.
when 1.5 is the total a .5 drop off is enormous thats a 33.3% drop off against the better sides.
unbelievable the length supporters will go to defend their favorites.
Thats rich coming from you, the lengths you will go to to show up players as mediocre is pee funny
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At this point in time Robbie,jake ,Bacha,edwards,jacko etc get games and fair enough too.If we are going to challenge for a premiership then our depth will be so much better,and probably some of these guys will be kicking the dew off punt road.I hope thats what Dimma has in mind
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
He averages 1.5 goals a game. He betters that against 2 sides and just below against 3. Not sure you're stats actually support your argument too much. So 5 of 8 he's actually going to average.
The better sides are the better sides coz they win more games. Thus they stop all our forwards not just Robbie.
when 1.5 is the total a .5 drop off is enormous thats a 33.3% drop off against the better sides.
unbelievable the length supporters will go to defend their favorites.
And in 2 games way above average. And we also won the hawks game.
And btw: You need to learn comprehension. No where in any of my posts have I claimed he's a favourite. All I'm trying to do is create some objectivity. I don't have to agree with you. Didn't realise that was a site rule. I assumed that one could have a discussion and post a differing point of view without being derided.
Pot-kettle-black at all.....
i dont see where ive used derision at all. if i were to rip into you there would be no mistaking it.
you certainly come across as a person who likes nahas you certainly are defending him. look i will concede and say perhaps of saying favorites i should have said players.
we have a total of 8 games against the current top 8 sides where 8 goals have been scored at 1.0 ave a game.
the only way to look at it is as a whole with such a small number base..
i can easily say hes below his overall ave in 6 games and above it in just two against top 8 sides. or how about i say lets take the high of 3 against the roos and the low of 0 against collingwood out and work it out from there which is a done thing in a lot cases. his average against top 8 sides then drops even further.
what we are actually seeing is nahas kick 1 goal a game on average against the better sides and 2 goals a game on average against the poorer sides. there really can be no arguing that. with such low numbers that is a massive differential. that is the overall view.
you can point to a game here or a game there and paint a pretty picture i can do similar and paint a poor picture.
believe it or not on this thread im not complaining about goals being kicked. what i do complain about is his overall game and the chronic weaknesses in it. it is these things that have me saying we should be looking for much better long term as nahas imo is a very ordinary player despite managing to kick 1.5 goals a game this yr.just my opinion but i think what he does poorly detracts too much from what he does well.
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
He averages 1.5 goals a game. He betters that against 2 sides and just below against 3. Not sure you're stats actually support your argument too much. So 5 of 8 he's actually going to average.
The better sides are the better sides coz they win more games. Thus they stop all our forwards not just Robbie.
when 1.5 is the total a .5 drop off is enormous thats a 33.3% drop off against the better sides.
unbelievable the length supporters will go to defend their favorites.
Thats rich coming from you, the lengths you will go to to show up players as mediocre is pee funny
if simply pointing out a players weaknesses is going to great lengths then yes i go to great lengths. as far as i can see all i have done is stick to the facts and my own observations.
not my problem if you cant handle a bit of reality or constantly fail to see players deficiencies. i really do suggest you take those coloured glasses off.
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
He averages 1.5 goals a game. He betters that against 2 sides and just below against 3. Not sure you're stats actually support your argument too much. So 5 of 8 he's actually going to average.
The better sides are the better sides coz they win more games. Thus they stop all our forwards not just Robbie.
when 1.5 is the total a .5 drop off is enormous thats a 33.3% drop off against the better sides.
unbelievable the length supporters will go to defend their favorites.
And in 2 games way above average. And we also won the hawks game.
And btw: You need to learn comprehension. No where in any of my posts have I claimed he's a favourite. All I'm trying to do is create some objectivity. I don't have to agree with you. Didn't realise that was a site rule. I assumed that one could have a discussion and post a differing point of view without being derided.
Pot-kettle-black at all.....
i dont see where ive used derision at all. if i were to rip into you there would be no mistaking it.
you certainly come across as a person who likes nahas you certainly are defending him. look i will concede and say perhaps of saying favorites i should have said players.
we have a total of 8 games against the current top 8 sides where 8 goals have been scored at 1.0 ave a game.
the only way to look at it is as a whole with such a small number base..
i can easily say hes below his overall ave in 6 games and above it in just two against top 8 sides. or how about i say lets take the high of 3 against the roos and the low of 0 against collingwood out and work it out from there which is a done thing in a lot cases. his average against top 8 sides then drops even further.
what we are actually seeing is nahas kick 1 goal a game on average against the better sides and 2 goals a game on average against the poorer sides. there really can be no arguing that. with such low numbers that is a massive differential. that is the overall view.
you can point to a game here or a game there and paint a pretty picture i can do similar and paint a poor picture.
believe it or not on this thread im not complaining about goals being kicked. what i do complain about is his overall game and the chronic weaknesses in it. it is these things that have me saying we should be looking for much better long term as nahas imo is a very ordinary player despite managing to kick 1.5 goals a game this yr.just my opinion but i think what he does poorly detracts too much from what he does well.
Sorry but Nahas is not a favourite player in particular. I'm not heavily defending him. I'm trying to provide some objectivity. A different view to yours. I agree with some of your views of Robbie and not others. I don't see the players in a binary sense (i.e. good/bad). I watch for roles, I watch for team performance. I am very comfortable with 5 or 6 stars (A grade players to use one of your terms) and a heap of role players. I can see a team, even in the future, where Robbie plays a role. Get a better 3rd and 4th string forwards and Robbie gets an even poorer defender. He may or may not improve.
Some very ordinary footballers have played in premiership sides. Some have even done well.
I don't have Robbie in the immediate vicinity of getting upgraded. There are more pressing concerns imo.
You "claim" chronic weaknesses and have been stating he's a poor tackler. He lays more effective tackles than most players that play the small forward role. He's 3rd in the league from small forwards for effective tackles. 5th for goals. so stats don't support your argument. I disagree. Yeah I see a guy who get knocked off the ball a bit (a bit too much) but his tackles stick. He's too right sided, but it still works.
One of thing that he adds that I think that we as a team are getting chronically weak on is speed. We are, imo, becoming a slow side. I see that of greater concern.
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
He averages 1.5 goals a game. He betters that against 2 sides and just below against 3. Not sure you're stats actually support your argument too much. So 5 of 8 he's actually going to average.
The better sides are the better sides coz they win more games. Thus they stop all our forwards not just Robbie.
when 1.5 is the total a .5 drop off is enormous thats a 33.3% drop off against the better sides.
unbelievable the length supporters will go to defend their favorites.
Thats rich coming from you, the lengths you will go to to show up players as mediocre is pee funny
if simply pointing out a players weaknesses is going to great lengths then yes i go to great lengths. as far as i can see all i have done is stick to the facts and my own observations.
not my problem if you cant handle a bit of reality or constantly fail to see players deficiencies. i really do suggest you take those coloured glasses off.
:lol Your powers of perception are rooted. Anybody that knows me, knows Im far from a glass half full marker when it comes to the RFC players, I can handle the reality that players are deficient, Im not their mother... I also dont have a problem with facts, I merely like to point out that contrary to what you claim, you have a tendency to largely embellish weaknesses to prove ur point. They are not facts, they are your opinion which I see as being overly zealous and skewed to a fault.
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I have absolutely no stuffing idea what you're on about.
Persecution complex much....
Why are you such a smart person all the time?
:wallywink
Pull your head in, old man. HK and I are mates, so mind your own business.
:lol
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been talking about how these glass half full types let us down because of their deficiencies. got me thinking people are hanging their hat on the fact nahas has kicked 30 goals this yr and ignore everything else.
i asked myself what has he done against the current top 8 sides as far as impacting the goals goes.
co - o goals
syd - 0 goals we won that game
adel - 1 goal
wce - 0 goals
haw - 1 goal
gee - 2 goals
ess- 1 goal
nm - 3 goals.
total 8 goals against top 8 sides.read into that what you will.
we complain about not getting over the line against the better sides we complain about our forward line not working well nahas is a part of those problems at least against the better sides it seems
He averages 1.5 goals a game. He betters that against 2 sides and just below against 3. Not sure you're stats actually support your argument too much. So 5 of 8 he's actually going to average.
The better sides are the better sides coz they win more games. Thus they stop all our forwards not just Robbie.
when 1.5 is the total a .5 drop off is enormous thats a 33.3% drop off against the better sides.
unbelievable the length supporters will go to defend their favorites.
Thats rich coming from you, the lengths you will go to to show up players as mediocre is pee funny
if simply pointing out a players weaknesses is going to great lengths then yes i go to great lengths. as far as i can see all i have done is stick to the facts and my own observations.
not my problem if you cant handle a bit of reality or constantly fail to see players deficiencies. i really do suggest you take those coloured glasses off.
:lol Your powers of perception are rooted. Anybody that knows me, knows Im far from a glass half full marker when it comes to the RFC players, I can handle the reality that players are deficient, Im not their mother... I also dont have a problem with facts, I merely like to point out that contrary to what you claim, you have a tendency to largely embellish weaknesses to prove ur point. They are not facts, they are your opinion which I see as being overly zealous and skewed to a fault.
lol on this thread thus far what have i embellished.
fact against top 8 sides he averages just 1 goal a game,
fact he is one of the most one sided players in the comp how many little men do you see who have no opposite foot at all.
fact he constantly falls over.
fact he goes missing for huge chunks of games in particular this yr.
fact hes not getting a lot of ball.
opinion he is costing us when he goes into the midfield.
fact hes lousy one on one pushed aside very easily
fact he is poor over the ball
fact his lack of polish and one sidedness has cost innumerable goals this yr.
finally i disagree with hk i see so many tackles that are ineffective but lets call that opinion.
i havent complained about him kicking goals this yr but i have complained that kicking 1.5 a game which is a decent return has papered over just how poor hes been in other areas.
its been others who keep telling me because hes kicked 30 goals to date hes a good player. in reply to that i pointed out he hasnt kicked to many against the better sides and hes been very poor in most other areas.
ive even said he not as bad as some on the list and is safe this yr. but if we want to improve we need to weed out the glass half fulls.
now you point out the embellishments and id be more than happy to debate them with you. in pointing them out you may actually have to tell us all exactly what he does so well and doesnt do well.
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You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with Champion Data.
They only count effective tackles and only register the dominant tackler, not second man in.
Nahas ranks 3rd in the AFL for small forwards in effective tackles laid. Not my stats, not my opinion. Something independent.
I'm just trying to provide some objective facts. Not opinion. Facts. Hard numbers. Quantifiable data. Comparative data.
I thought that would be easy to understand and then discuss. Well that was a wasted thought.
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You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with Champion Data.
They only count effective tackles and only register the dominant tackler, not second man in.
Nahas ranks 3rd in the AFL for small forwards in effective tackles laid. Not my stats, not my opinion. Something independent.
I'm just trying to provide some objective facts. Not opinion. Facts. Hard numbers. Quantifiable data. Comparative data.
I thought that would be easy to understand and then discuss. Well that was a wasted thought.
do they count missed tackles and then average em all out. one other thing be just a little bit wary of stats. his high tackle count may mean nothing more than hes second to the ball too often.
look im prepared to concede he tackles but thats not enough he tackles and kicks a few goals as a small forward rotating thru midfield. i expect much more. at the end of the day i dont rate him and people on here do.
i dont see an upside with him because of the many weaknesses that have been mentioned.
i think hes a type that is easily replaceable you only nee to look at shane edwards heshas kicked 19 goals in the last 10 11 games since hes played as a forward.
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another sublime game of falling over fumbling and running past the ball by robbie only today there were no goals. have i mentioned hes vfl standard only before, im sure i have.
if he had kicked three goals today people would be telling me he had a good game. how far from the truth would that be.
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another sublime game of falling over fumbling and running past the ball by robbie only today there were no goals. have i mentioned hes vfl standard only before, im sure i have.
if he had kicked three goals today people would be telling me he had a good game. how far from the truth would that be.
I thought he kicked one in the last......
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another sublime game of falling over fumbling and running past the ball by robbie only today there were no goals. have i mentioned hes vfl standard only before, im sure i have.
if he had kicked three goals today people would be telling me he had a good game. how far from the truth would that be.
I thought he kicked one in the last......
thats it then his game was great.
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I am sick of watching this guy in a Tiger jumper, so soft and always goes to ground.
Get rid of him.
Edwards, King and White are all better IMO.
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Thought matty white was ordinary today
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I am sick of watching this guy in a Tiger jumper, so soft and always goes to ground.
Get rid of him.
Edwards, King and White are all better IMO.
would have king white and nahas in the same boat the lack of polish for these types is mindboggling. there are better skilled wafl players running around.no let me rephrase there are better skilled u12s running around.
edwards imo has at least had a good consistent 10 12 weeks. i ask myself will he slip back i hope not, hes where he needs to be and stay, at a minimum.
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I thought we were bagging Post this week?
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another sublime game of falling over fumbling and running past the ball by robbie only today there were no goals. have i mentioned hes vfl standard only before, im sure i have.
if he had kicked three goals today people would be telling me he had a good game. how far from the truth would that be.
If he kicked 3 goals his game would have been totally different and you'd have to judge it on that
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another sublime game of falling over fumbling and running past the ball by robbie only today there were no goals. have i mentioned hes vfl standard only before, im sure i have.
if he had kicked three goals today people would be telling me he had a good game. how far from the truth would that be.
If he kicked 3 goals his game would have been totally different and you'd have to judge it on that
what we judge it solely on the goals he kicks do we. isnt there other areas of the game that he should be proficient at. he could have kicked 5 today and it would not have covered over how fumbly ineffective and ordinary skillwise this bloke is.
take cotchin and deledio out of the team today and that reserves team would have kicked our arses. we need blokes like nahas king white jackson houli etc to step up and give these blokes a chop out. every time they were rested the dogs bit back. the depth is scary the simple fact we have so many who are basically role players is killing us. would have been a real interesting exercise today to see both teams at full strength.
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another sublime game of falling over fumbling and running past the ball by robbie only today there were no goals. have i mentioned hes vfl standard only before, im sure i have.
if he had kicked three goals today people would be telling me he had a good game. how far from the truth would that be.
If he kicked 3 goals his game would have been totally different and you'd have to judge it on that
what we judge it solely on the goals he kicks do we. isnt there other areas of the game that he should be proficient at. he could have kicked 5 today and it would not have covered over how fumbly ineffective and ordinary skillwise this bloke is.
take cotchin and deledio out of the team today and that reserves team would have kicked our behinds. we need blokes like nahas king white jackson houli etc to step up and give these blokes a chop out. every time they were rested the dogs bit back. the depth is scary the simple fact we have so many who are basically role players is killing us. would have been a real interesting exercise today to see both teams at full strength.
You missed my point. If he did kick 3 goals as the example you used then he would've had to be involved in some other way. What if those 3 goals were from crunching tackles that resulted in holding the ball?
I think we both agree but your to busy trying to make everyone out as stupid and yourself as a footy genious.
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another sublime game of falling over fumbling and running past the ball by robbie only today there were no goals. have i mentioned hes vfl standard only before, im sure i have.
if he had kicked three goals today people would be telling me he had a good game. how far from the truth would that be.
If he kicked 3 goals his game would have been totally different and you'd have to judge it on that
what we judge it solely on the goals he kicks do we. isnt there other areas of the game that he should be proficient at. he could have kicked 5 today and it would not have covered over how fumbly ineffective and ordinary skillwise this bloke is.
take cotchin and deledio out of the team today and that reserves team would have kicked our behinds. we need blokes like nahas king white jackson houli etc to step up and give these blokes a chop out. every time they were rested the dogs bit back. the depth is scary the simple fact we have so many who are basically role players is killing us. would have been a real interesting exercise today to see both teams at full strength.
You missed my point. If he did kick 3 goals as the example you used then he would've had to be involved in some other way. What if those 3 goals were from crunching tackles that resulted in holding the ball?
I think we both agree but your to busy trying to make everyone out as stupid and yourself as a footy genious.
nope im a pretty and i should not say this because i can see people having fun with it but im a pretty simple person with no complications. i can assure you im not big noting im just driving home a point as hard as i can.
you know we talk finals even now. my thinking all yr and now has been we are a bottom 6 side. its blokes like nahas and king white jackson mcguane etc that makes me think we are a bottom 6 side. on this thread ie done all i can do to show how ordinary this bloke is. ive compared him against his peers he doesnt stack up. ive gone thru his numerous weaknesses and strengths and on top of that his overall performances. in any mans language he does not stack up.
i dont see many defenders of him talking strengths and weaknesses. because the weaknesses far outweigh the strengths. in fact if he was 18 in a nd you wouldnt touch him wioth a barge pole.
i dont see to many talking about over all performances. in the main they have been below standard.
i dont see any comparing him against his peers and giving an opinion where he sits. why because any honest person will have him well down the pecking order.
some things are obvious but not to rfc supporters it seems.
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Thought matty white was ordinary today
Thought Matty White played his role on Murphy well today. Murphy didn't has his normal impact or cut to ribbons like he normally does. His job was shut down one and he did well IMO
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another sublime game of falling over fumbling and running past the ball by robbie only today there were no goals. have i mentioned hes vfl standard only before, im sure i have.
if he had kicked three goals today people would be telling me he had a good game. how far from the truth would that be.
I thought he kicked one in the last......
thats it then his game was great.
He also dished off two. :lol :rollin :lol
Today he had 8 touches of the highest quality. :thumbsup
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i dont see any comparing him against his peers and giving an opinion where he sits. why because any honest person will have him well down the pecking order.
some things are obvious but not to rfc supporters it seems.
Statistically and end result wise he stands up very well against his peers.
All sides play 1 small forward and many play 2. For argument's sake I'll go with half the teams in the league.
That means 27 small forwards. Statistically he's 5th for goals (or was last week) and 3 rd for tackles.
As I said previously, he aint the problem.
I don't need a battering ram to be offered a differing view to my own. But you offer no statistics no comparisons, just criticise him based on your own view and opinion. Publicly available KPI's and stats would indicate he's performing his role. Then you don't even accept them. You argue compare him to his peers and he stacks up OK.
It get's pointed out that you're wrong on his tackling and it becomes "he's second to the ball". I see lots of intense chases where he shouldn't even be in the contest but wills himself to it. (Remember the 4th quarter vs Lions.)
You claim it's obvious but wont accept counter arguments and deride people with a different view. Given the facts (note: facts not opinions, not perceptions) it's no where near as obvious as you make out. I could suggest the obvious bit...
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i dont see any comparing him against his peers and giving an opinion where he sits. why because any honest person will have him well down the pecking order.
some things are obvious but not to rfc supporters it seems.
Statistically and end result wise he stands up very well against his peers.
All sides play 1 small forward and many play 2. For argument's sake I'll go with half the teams in the league.
That means 27 small forwards. Statistically he's 5th for goals (or was last week) and 3 rd for tackles.
As I said previously, he aint the problem.
I don't need a battering ram to be offered a differing view to my own. But you offer no statistics no comparisons, just criticise him based on your own view and opinion. Publicly available KPI's and stats would indicate he's performing his role. Then you don't even accept them. You argue compare him to his peers and he stacks up OK.
It get's pointed out that you're wrong on his tackling and it becomes "he's second to the ball". I see lots of intense chases where he shouldn't even be in the contest but wills himself to it. (Remember the 4th quarter vs Lions.)
You claim it's obvious but wont accept counter arguments and deride people with a different view. Given the facts (note: facts not opinions, not perceptions) it's no where near as obvious as you make out. I could suggest the obvious bit...
i actually took the time to do a detailed response to this then thought no bugger it i cant be bothered.. i hve an opinion on this bloke and ive been on the roudabout about the nahas types for yrs with those who just dont want to see. nahas is a big part of the problem regardless of what your stats say.
needless to say i will continue post what i see with nahas and voice my opinion. needless to say we will disagree on just how good or poor a player nahas is especially in regards to stats.
to you the stats say hes a good tackler to me they lie i see every game where he is just run over.
again stats dont measure the lack of polish or the one sidedness or the times you fall over fumble run past the ball etc etc etc. hes a very ordinary small player you can agrree or disagree but i will continue to point out the things that matter and most of the time stats dont measure.
as i said earlier he could have kicked 5 today, he could have laid 4 boine crunching tackles lol all that would have done is cover up just how poor he was in every other area. some times you have to use your eyes.
anyway we disagree and we always will when it comes to this hack.
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Can you actually read or comprehend anything except your own view.
I disagree he's a hack.
I agree he has limitations. They're his limitations. Sometimes they hinder him sometimes he can play well despite them. Sometimes it works to his advantage. He also has some AFL traits. He has enough to get him a gig and enough so that compared to his peers (comparable players) he would have a minimum of a pass mark (equal 5th for goals and 3 rd for tackles (BTW: He had 3 today, on his season average)).
I've acknowledged his limitations twice now. I've taken the time to compare him to his peers.
From an overall list management issue he aint a burning problem imo at the moment. He produces to a degree and in a team role. I actually prefer that. That emphasises team over individual. A preference of mine. I understand the limitations due to the draft and trading how many roles you can upgrade at one time. So he is not a focus for now. We have more pressing needs. At some stage he may become a focus. That may or may not before we become contenders. Lots of guys who are not as good as Robbie have premiership medallions.
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Can you actually read or comprehend anything except your own view.
No need to write crap like that, guy.
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:fishing
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Don't act like you were fishing, guy. ;D
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Don't act like you were fishing, guy. ;D
Robbie Nahas is a gun, if you can't see it, it your own individual fault.
Stop acting like your fishing an acting fisherman :shh
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If nahas and Edwards are in the team long term is there spots for white and king?
How many smalls can you play
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Believe room in team for Edwards, Nahas and King. Not sure about White. Nahas and Ellis didn't have good games against the bulldogs. Believe Ellis only needs to bulk up over summer and he has the potential to be a very good player.
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facts
white is crap
nahas is crap................too bloody soft , too light falls over, too easily tackled
edwards must stay is our best small
king must stay is our toughest small
no room for nahas and white in the team
end of story
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Edwards needs to be traded. 23 Goals 26 behinds. How many more were out on the full or didn't make it? Most within 25m of goal. Couldn't hit a barn door at 5 feet unless he was blindfolded and pushed in the wrong direction. Will be good trade value because he does have pace.
White obviously useless. King is a champion. He won't be around forever. Nahas 31 Goals 15 Behinds. Still our best forward. Unless we find someone better, moot discussion.
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bs
nahas is crap
edwards creams him, deledio has missed many this yr too as has martin so do we trade them too u dimwit
edwards is an opportunistic small fwd and is much better than nahas
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nahas is crap
edwards creams him, deledio has missed many this yr too as has martin so do we trade them too u dimwit
edwards is an opportunistic small fwd and is much better than nahas
How many have they missed from 5m out? LOL. I reckon Edwards has missed at least 10 this year alone.
Deledio and Martin have both been more accurate and many of their shots have been 50m running goals from the midfield.
Edwards just runs around loose in the forward line picking up cheap possessions. He is 50/50 running into an open goal. Its laughable.
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Nahas < Edwards.
Nahas has missed goals from the goal line because he has no left foot and falls to ground more often with less pressure. Edwards has been great since moving to the forward line.
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Don't act like you were fishing, guy. ;D
Robbie Nahas is a gun, if you can't see it, it your own individual fault.
Stop acting like your fishing an acting fisherman :shh
HEY! HEY!...:(
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Nahas < Edwards.
Nahas has missed goals from the goal line because he has no left foot and falls to ground more often with less pressure. Edwards has been great since moving to the forward line.
dont worry jvt u cant argue with unplugged as he is unplugged , we know nahas chokes is weak and misses very easy shots, edwards misses are mostly under pressure in reflex shots with tight angles
edwards is so much better than nahas its not even funny
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Don't act like you were fishing, guy. ;D
Robbie Nahas is a gun, if you can't see it, it your own individual fault.
Stop acting like your fishing an acting fisherman :shh
The Coach can fish, I've seen him first hand slow role the old Strike Tiger and boat more fish than you coule ever imagin! And if you think that's good you should see what he can do with a Tassie Devil :shh
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You should see him with a bag of quolls
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Saturday's were awesome back then. Bag of goals and then a bag of quolls.
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Don't act like you were fishing, guy. ;D
Robbie Nahas is a gun, if you can't see it, it your own individual fault.
Stop acting like your fishing an acting fisherman :shh
HEY! HEY!...:(
;D
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HEARD ON SEN HE WANTS A FIVE YEAR DEAL WORTH 2 MILLION
TOO MUCH FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN BE EASILY REPLACED
PEOPLE ARE TRIPPING OVER SMALL FORWARDS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM AROUND
STILL THINK HES PRETTY GOOD BUT NOT WORTH 400K ARE YEAR
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HEARD ON SEN HE WANTS A FIVE YEAR DEAL WORTH 2 MILLION
TOO MUCH FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN BE EASILY REPLACED
PEOPLE ARE TRIPPING OVER SMALL FORWARDS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM AROUND
STILL THINK HES PRETTY GOOD BUT NOT WORTH 400K ARE YEAR
:lol gotta be a pisstake.
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i hope youre right
in afl money is getting splashed all over the place and often wasted
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would not be surprised in the least if craig cameron does not give him what he asks.
personally would shop him around for a packet of crispy cremes and a can of fanta, would take the crispy cremes though as i dont want to get too greedy.
if we are to keep hacks like nahas white king jackson mcguane graham etc they should be on 1 yr performance based contracts only. if they dont like it show em where the door is and tell em to feel free to try and get better elsewhere.
would gladly give state league players like sundberg dwyer lee a game in their place.
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so you reckon if all the other blokes on the committee that make list management decisions thought it was too much, cameron could override the lot of them?
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HEARD ON SEN HE WANTS A FIVE YEAR DEAL WORTH 2 MILLION
TOO MUCH FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN BE EASILY REPLACED
PEOPLE ARE TRIPPING OVER SMALL FORWARDS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM AROUND
STILL THINK HES PRETTY GOOD BUT NOT WORTH 400K ARE YEAR
Im pretty certain he's under contract, signed for 2 years last year....stand to be corrected....but sounds like a load of BS to me
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HEARD ON SEN HE WANTS A FIVE YEAR DEAL WORTH 2 MILLION
TOO MUCH FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN BE EASILY REPLACED
PEOPLE ARE TRIPPING OVER SMALL FORWARDS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM AROUND
STILL THINK HES PRETTY GOOD BUT NOT WORTH 400K ARE YEAR
Im pretty certain he's under contract, signed for 2 years last year....stand to be corrected....but sounds like a load of BS to me
Yep, good (re)call.
Posted in contract thread at top of page.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/123082/default.aspx
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Nahas will stay and play for free because Dimma said so.
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so you reckon if all the other blokes on the committee that make list management decisions thought it was too much, cameron could override the lot of them?
No one questions Helmut.
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sorry, i forgot
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we need to upgrade this bloke.
swat. :thumbsup
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One year left that's good to hear
Harford got it wrong on SEN
Thanks for easing my mind
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Yet another BF rumour (posted by a Collingwood fan):
"Can confirm this is true.. [Nahas] Will be moving interstate on $400+ over 4 years.
QLD based.. It'll come out after finals anyway."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/nahas-poll-added.967219/page-7#post-25258283
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sorry, i forgot
STFU and pull your head in then . Helmut
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:lol
Yes dear
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:bluesbros
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true or rumor they can have robin for 400k
we ca go shopping then :cheers
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Trade him for a 2nd rounder
Pick up Ben Kennedy with 1st Pick in the National Draft to replace Nahas
And use the 2nd rounder from Nahas to get in another player via a trade.
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Why trade a consistent player over the past 3 years?
Nahas numbers stack up - so don't think he would be traded unless another club makes a "great" offer - and given the availability of players in his position it is not likely to happen.
Barring injury he will be playing 1oo games
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Robby has been servicable.
Has currency would prefer an upgrade.
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...and the upgrade is?
certainly no one our list at the moment
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6 more goals this year and he's averaged 25 a season for 4 years
fun fact of the day :sleep
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...and the upgrade is?
certainly no one our list at the moment
I can make a strong case for Edwards but I'm pretty bloody lazy. So just take my word for it.
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Keep them both if they're both cheap and not nasty
They're of about equal ability
Edwards could be better if he stepped up in the midfield and if his kicking improved
Looks like 400k each then
:cheers :birthday :santa
I would give them 200k each but afl footy has gone mad with the new expansion clubs
ie Tom Scully should be on 150k a year tops
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...and the upgrade is?
certainly no one our list at the moment
I can make a strong case for Edwards but I'm pretty bloody lazy. So just take my word for it.
I think when you upgrade someone you bring someone new in, someone to take his spot in the side.
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If he and pushup could both work on not falling over themselves at every contest i would be really happy.
Otherwise last 2 seasons have been pretty good from Robin. But we want great dont we??
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...and the upgrade is?
certainly no one our list at the moment
I can make a strong case for Edwards but I'm pretty bloody lazy. So just take my word for it.
I think when you upgrade someone you bring someone new in, someone to take his spot in the side.
Al, we have so many good players on our list surely we can assume there is a burger waiting in the wings to step straight in?
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Why trade a consistent player over the past 3 years?
Nahas numbers stack up - so don't think he would be traded unless another club makes a "great" offer - and given the availability of players in his position it is not likely to happen.
Barring injury he will be playing 1oo games
No doubt he's done well for himself and has done a pretty good job.
.... But he'll never win you a final. Players like him (who get blown over by a strong breeze) tend to go missing against good teams that play regular finals footy. Just too easily pushed off the ball by a bigger bodied defender.
Trade him now before it's too late. He's got currency.
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you trade players that are not required, not because they have currency.
you need someone on your list remotely looking like taking over. That we dont have.
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Trade him for a 2nd rounder
Pick up Ben Kennedy with 1st Pick in the National Draft to replace Nahas
And use the 2nd rounder from Nahas to get in another player via a trade.
Are you suggesting we use our first r pick on a fella 5ft 4 has history taught you nothing ::)
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Only has to be half as good as the prodigy maric and he'll be worth it ::)
Stuffing whoa
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Trade him for a 2nd rounder
Pick up Ben Kennedy with 1st Pick in the National Draft to replace Nahas
And use the 2nd rounder from Nahas to get in another player via a trade.
Are you suggesting we use our first r pick on a fella 5ft 4 has history taught you nothing ::)
1. That it's not about how big you are but how you use it or
2. size doesn't matter? (Or so I was told. :shh)
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After four seasons of AFL football, the now 25-year-old Nahas has scored a total of 97 goals from 77 games, and he’s rightfully being acclaimed as another success story of the AFL’s rookie-list system.
This year, Nahas again played all 22 games, and he booted a league career-high 34 goals, to finish second (behind Jack Riewoldt) on the Tigers’ goalkicking table.
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/152146/default.aspx
VIDEO: Best of Nahas
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/152146/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer
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His graph is undoubtedly going in the right direction, but his major flaw of being such a one sided player I think means that he will be the first to lose his fwd pocket spot if and when a better option presents itself. There is of course the problem of him getting bumped off the ball so easily. This is something I can cope with if the player is a genuine speedster which I think Nahas is. I can't believe people are saying that Aaron Edwards should get a game in front of him. But until someone better comes along, it's Nahas' spot, I actually hope the graph keeps going and he kicks 50 goals and shoves it up critics like me.
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Should've traded him whilst he has currency.
He's done very well for himself but he's not a finals player. He struggles against the big bodied backs.
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Should've traded him whilst he has currency.
He's done very well for himself but he's not a finals player. He struggles against the big bodied backs.
Doesn't mean he isn't useful.
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Should've traded him whilst he has currency.
He's done very well for himself but he's not a finals player. He struggles against the big bodied backs.
Doesn't mean he isn't useful.
No he's very useful doubt about it. But he goes missing against the better teams. I think clubs would've jumped at the prospect of having Nahas on their list. He's mature he's a team player and he has a lot of upside. I would think his currency would be peaking about now.
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Should've traded him whilst he has currency.
He's done very well for himself but he's not a finals player. He struggles against the big bodied backs.
Doesn't mean he isn't useful.
No he's very useful doubt about it. But he goes missing against the better teams. I think clubs would've jumped at the prospect of having Nahas on their list. He's mature he's a team player and he has a lot of upside. I would think his currency would be peaking about now.
I've never understood the logic of trading a player that is doing well with upside. Particularly in a team that hasn't played finals for 11 years. I'd have expected you keep every decent player and top up until you play finals. The you might trade for the sake of list balance.
I know we worry some clubs with our pace in the forward line - it's a strength that Nahas compliments.
Plenty of players who are on sided in the AFL, stop raising stuff because its suit a flawed arguement.
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read a few posts here that proclaims nahas upside. could someone please tell us what that supposed upside is.
hea a small no let me rephrase. hes a tiny who is very very limited. so one sided its not funny. he lacks polish and he is forever being outbodied and falling over. his over all skills for a small are ordinary.
kudos to him hes got every skerrick of talent out of himself but there is no upside not a small at age 25 with his deficiencies.
After four seasons of AFL football, the now 25-year-old Nahas has scored a total of 97 goals from 77 games, and he’s rightfully being acclaimed as another success story of the AFL’s rookie-list system.
This year, Nahas again played all 22 games, and he booted a league career-high 34 goals, to finish second (behind Jack Riewoldt) on the Tigers’ goalkicking table.
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/152146/default.aspx
VIDEO: Best of Nahas
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/152146/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer
i agree with these comments as far as a rookie pick goes hes a success story hes actually a mature rookie pick and the comparison against young rookies is not so glamorous. to be a success story he only had to be one of the about every 6 rookies who play for a decent period. as a rookie we have got a decent return out of him thing is just because hes a rookie success story it doesnt mean hes a good footballer.
hes the perfect example of value adding its time to value add again.
you trade players that are not required, not because they have currency.
you need someone on your list remotely looking like taking over. That we dont have.
hmm a little fella called shane edwards had abetter yr than nahas who despite kicking 34 goals was quite deplorable in a lot of games.
we just drafted aaron edwards who is a medium and a different type of player. we also took chris knights who has spent a lot of time as a forward. i dont see the point in comparing them.
to me nahas is in competition with two other sml forwards for a spot. they are s edwards and kingy. we also took a far more skilled and polished player than any of them in mathew mcdonough who by all reports is ready to go.
imo we can afford to play only 1 limited sml forward that player atm has to be s edwards.
for me the sooner a kid like mcdonough shows enough to play the glass half fulls like nahas and king would go to coburg.
sml forwards - mcdonough, s edwards, king, nahas, leading contender for me s edwards.
med forwards - a edwards, o'hanlon, with martin knights deledio and cotchin all mids who play forward very well. they should rotate thru there. martin imo because of a lack of areobic capacity atm should again spend significant time forward.
so there are plenty who look more than capable of taking over his role the sooner the better imo.we cannot go with a similar sort of forward setup to last yr. simply put it was a massive failure the way our forward line functioned.
what will pee me off is if we take maric again there really is no need at the moment to target what has been a very ordinary player whos had 4 yrs in the afl and done nothing.
still think we need to play a genuine 2nd ruck/for in a pocket vickery. we need to play two genuine kpfs riewoldt and one of griffiths / astbury / elton. rotate the likes of martin cotchin deledio and knights thru there. play a genuine medium sized player who gives you the option of going smaller if you wish thru a game but he plays tall. and finally one small who for me atm is s edwards but im hoping the better skilled mcdonough can force his way in later in the yr.
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all well and good claw.
you reckon you could redo your essay only including blokes who were actually on the list when i posted that comment?
don't forget that nahas and edwards were playing alongside each other, as was king when fit
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He's a gun
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pigs arse he is a gun
he will play in the first 4 to 6 games because he will be given a chance to harden up, then he wont be seen again
no room for him edwards and king in the team and nahas is way way way behind king and edwards and with chris knights in the team and teh kids we have , bye bye nahas
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He's not a gun but he is currently our 2nd highest goal scorer. If someone beats him out of his role well and good but he's in my best 22 come round 1.
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We might just find that as both Edwards and Nahas get into their mid 20s ,we might get even better performances from both.
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He's not a gun but he is currently our 2nd highest goal scorer. If someone beats him out of his role well and good but he's in my best 22 come round 1.
Better than Edwards.... ;D
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Needs to work on consistency both in a game and through out the season and to learn to step up against quality opposition. Pace and tackling and ability to kick goals are real assets of his as is his attitude
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I don't think his as bad as some make out. Can do better but there are a few teams he'd be first up in and a few he'd be depth. Need to improve on him but his not a major concern
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all well and good claw.
you reckon you could redo your essay only including blokes who were actually on the list when i posted that comment?
don't forget that nahas and edwards were playing alongside each other, as was king when fit
apologies i didnt look at the date.
anyway look how well the forward line went with them. no wonder we targeted knights and edwards something has to change in the forward half.
what i dont get is most of us can see and acknowledge that we desperately need to find and play a second ruckman to help big ivan.
most say that person is vickery but name him at chf i really dont get it. in fed up with the roundabout that is our tall forwards. we need a chf to play with jack and we need a ruck/forward who can give ivan a decent chop out. one bloke cannot be expected to do both roles im sick of structure going out the window every time ivan needs a break.
as for sml forwards well imo theres room for just one especially if your sml forwards are poor in the midfield and you lose too much in rotations. there is no way in hell we can afford to play nahas king and edwards and any or none of them not making a reasonable midfield contribution.
our structure and player type is deplorable in the forward half its certainly not a set up that will win tough high pressure games of footy. its been a set up that places inordinate amounts of pressure on our limited supply of genuine mids to play well every week.
as i have said as far as forward line set up and type goes nahas is in a fight with only king and edwards for a spot in the 22. we cannot afford to play 2 of the 3 take your pick which one you prefer.
robbir e nahas is not in a fight with a edwards for a spot they are entirely different players. hes not in a fight with knights hopefully knights can also spend significant time as a mid without the side losing too much.
we finished 12th we finished 12th for damn good reasons. doing something about why we finished 12th means limited players like nahas king and edwards will have to miss out.
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Nah he's Italian
Nope Lebanese Christian from the look of it
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/lucky-robin-nahas-has-stolen-tiger-hearts/story-e6frf9jf-1225812237088
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Snip! Stick to the football discussion on Nahas here ppl. The general discussion board is for social-political talk.
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Good small fwd with some tricks, not many but some.
Has a tendancy to fall over often, needs to rip out that long third leg and put a wheel on it to stay balanced.
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Was sharp when the game was on the line.
Borderline 22 player - doing good things
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Has no left foot.
His tackling has been impressive this pre season.
Has goal sense but for me goes missing in action against the bigger clubs.
No shoe in for 20 or so games this season.
Will at least play against Port at AAMI in round 7. ;D
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Has no left foot.
His tackling has been impressive this pre season.
Has goal sense but for me goes missing in action against the bigger clubs.
No shoe in for 20 or so games this season.
Will at least play against Port at AAMI in round 7. ;D
He actually has used his left foot a few times this pre-season.
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Yep, he even nearly kicked a goal on his left yesterday. I nearly fell of my perch.
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Went alright last night, worked very hard off the ball, ran his guts out to!
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Still can't lay a tackle on actually, he "attempts" to tackle but is easily pushed away.
He is lacking that "hungry" goal sense.
When the match was in the balance he finally used his greatest asset: His pace. Took the match on with at least four running plays including two or three bounces which was great.
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Kudos to Nahas for developing his game, I noted twice he used his left foot yesterday and both kicks were reasonable. Last year he would have just used the bannana off the outside of the right foot.
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Centered the ball down McGuanes throat with his left cannon :shh
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too weak to soft
goes to ground too easy
runs sideways aka rodan
wont be in our 22 with edwards and king as they are way ahead
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King is nor way ahead.
When we were losing it was nahas, not king. That took the game on and pumped it deep 3 times
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King is nor way ahead.
When we were losing it was nahas, not king. That took the game on and pumped it deep 3 times
it was kingys first run for ages after coming back from inujry
and yes king is ahead of nahas
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Both will struggle.to be best 22.
At best each.is.16/18-25+.
Different pro and cons. It will be interesting to.see what's happens. The kids could.force them both out.
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At least one of King and Nahas will always play. What kid do you suppose will force them out? McDonuts? we dont exactly have a plethora of small livewire forwards.
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The PNG-Train :shh
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Go Bananahas!
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Was disappointed with his effort on Thursday. After watching the replay he struggled to get near it after coming on late. i was really looking for an impact, but didnt get that. He had fresh legs and iirc only used them once.
i'm worried for Robbie and i'm struggling to see him stay in the team with some of the talent wanting his spot.
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Hard to see Robbie being at Punt Rd next year. After being dropped tonight he has probably played his last game too unless a number of our smalls get injured.
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Hard to see Robbie being at Punt Rd next year. After being dropped tonight he has probably played his last game too unless a number of our smalls get injured.
Agree, he has just lost the plot, maybe he should be tried at Coburg further up the ground outside the 50, getting the ball in and floating down. He is completely lost at the minute.
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Hard to see Robbie being at Punt Rd next year. After being dropped tonight he has probably played his last game too unless a number of our smalls get injured.
x 2
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never rated him
dont care
fact is he is weak and overrated and should never have been on our list
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Dimma in todays press conference has him in his top 26!!!!!
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Hard to see Robbie being at Punt Rd next year. After being dropped tonight he has probably played his last game too unless a number of our smalls get injured.
Reckon we could get something tangible for him too.
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LMAO he has probably played his last game, it's round 6
should have traded him last year but :shh
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Dimma in todays press conference has him in his top 26!!!!!
Yer nice way of saying you're not in the best 22. :lol
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Thought he played crap today and his stats when I looked backed that up.
Will be lucky to be in the side next week
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For all of those who argue that you must earn your selection in the seniors, this guy has been our worst player this year.
How does he get a gig ahead of Arnot? Even Aaron Edwards has shown more up front.
Thoughts?
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Aarnott Edwards
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Aarnott Edwards
X24
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Last chance
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N O M O R E
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12 minute mark qtr 2, I regret to advice the following redundancies in alphabetical order - Nahas, Robin. That is all.
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oooooooooommmmmmmmmmggggggggggggg
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Get the prick off >:(
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Surely Aaron Edwards deserves a crack at it over this waste of space.
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He plays again and I'm not going.
I've had it with the rubbish!
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No wonder Arnot is getting frustrated at Coburg!......actually Arnot or McDonough (on recent form) would be a massive upgrade.
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Eff this its time to turn furniture over
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Nahas should stick to the Xbox.
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Classic display of fumbles and slips from nanas
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I tell you why cause Dimma a rewarding games to players that dont even deserve to be selected.Has happen all year.For some reason some players get more chance then others in our list.
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I tell you why cause Dimma a rewarding games to players that dont even deserve to be selected.Has happen all year.For some reason some players get more chance then others in our list.
Wake up sonny our listisn't that good, go watch some coburg games
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Hey Chuck
Hows Ivan travelling by the way ??
Got murdered tonight by Ryder who couldnt get game 2 weeks ago
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Been saving that one up for 18 months? :lol
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Been saving that one up for 18 months? :lol
Pointless having a ruckman who cant jump.
Ryder killed him tonight
We have been getting murdered in the clearances this year ,except for Dogs game, I wonder why ?? Any internet nuffers care to guess ?
Give you a clue, it helps if your ruckman can get his hand on the ball first, Ivan can get near it, at least 6 inches from it, Vickery misses by 12 inches
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Yeah has stunk it up this year but was terrific last year. Goes to show if you bag a player long enough you can claim omniscience when they eventually slip up.
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Kid is playing like he does not want to be there.
Slides, falls, can't break a tackle. Gift wraps it for the opposition.
Play Arnot for the rest of the year.
Should have played Aaron Edwards would have meant Fletcher would not have been third man up against Jack and Ty and made them more accountable.
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If I was arnott and saw thus poo I would not be buying in.
if I was floss and was publicly aired I had to earn my spot by the leadership group including dan bloody Jackson I would prob not be buying in.
If I was Ellis I would be shaking my head re early season
if I was Batchelor and was expected to play KPD whilst rance and chaps play loose at various stages I would not be buying in.
one rule for some another for the noobs
Cracks are appearing, Dimmas losing it
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If I was arnott and saw thus poo I would not be buying in.
if I was floss and was publicly aired I had to earn my spot by the leadership group including dan bloody Jackson I would prob not be buying in.
One rule for seasoned regulars one rule for the noobs.
Goes back to Dimma.
He adopted the mantra when he took the job.
Now that he has 35 games to save his job he will throw his adoptive mantra out the window.
Tonight was a perfect opportunity to bring in Arnot or Edwards and reward someone with form at Coburg. Instead in Nahas, White my kolotripa every week.
We are at 1999 in Gieschen last season
Out Blurton in Powell
Out Powell in Blurton
In Sampson out Blurton.
We are rooted.
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Not just Nahas whom ain't up to it.......he's go plenty of buddies. It's not they don't try. I can't question that but they just ack the skill. Jackson, Mcguanne and even rance. These blokes are flat track bullies but when the pressure is on then they Re found wanting. For all their hard work for which I applaud, they will not take us to finals.
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Where is da Donut King? >:( At least the kid has some meat on his bones and can break a tackle. Added bonus of being able to kick over a jam tin.
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If I was arnott and saw thus poo I would not be buying in.
if I was floss and was publicly aired I had to earn my spot by the leadership group including dan bloody Jackson I would prob not be buying in.
One rule for seasoned regulars one rule for the noobs.
Instead in Nahas, White my kolotripa every week.
We are at 1999 in Gieschen last season
Out Blurton in Powell
Out Powell in Blurton
In Sampson out Blurton.
We are rooted.
lmao :bow
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So true :cheers
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Hey Chuck
Hows Ivan travelling by the way ??
Got murdered tonight by Ryder who couldnt get game 2 weeks ago
Ivans been crap all this season.
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Hey Chuck
Hows Ivan travelling by the way ??
Got murdered tonight by Ryder who couldnt get game 2 weeks ago
Heya Jackstar.
I am glad you finally got to use that line even though it took so long, keeping the bitterness inside for so long can't be good for a persons state of well being.
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Some of the selections have left me wondering. Did believe Arnot deserved a chance. Concerns include our depth, Coburg's woeful form and playing players that shouldn't be in seniors eg White.
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Hey Chuck
Hows Ivan travelling by the way ??
Got murdered tonight by Ryder who couldnt get game 2 weeks ago
Heya Jackstar.
I am glad you finally got to use that line even though it took so long, keeping the bitterness inside for so long can't be good for a persons state of well being.
Hey Chuck
I bleed yellow and black and those who know me would vouch for that
We aint going to play finals with players like Nahas and Ruckman who cannot touch the ball at centre bounces.
I like Ivan but he probably aint the answer.
I cringe when he kicks the ball 15 metres to a team mate and its drops a metre short, as was the case twice last night
If you think thats up to AFL standard, good on you
I DONT !!!!!
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Hey Chuck
Hows Ivan travelling by the way ??
Got murdered tonight by Ryder who couldnt get game 2 weeks ago
Heya Jackstar.
I am glad you finally got to use that line even though it took so long, keeping the bitterness inside for so long can't be good for a persons state of well being.
Hey Chuck
I bleed yellow and black and those who know me would vouch for that
We aint going to play finals with players like Nahas and Ruckman who cannot touch the ball at centre bounces.
I like Ivan but he probably aint the answer.
I cringe when he kicks the ball 15 metres to a team mate and its drops a metre short, as was the case twice last night
If you think thats up to AFL standard, good on you
I DONT !!!!!
I'm just concerned for you Jack, you seem to hold a lot of anger and bitterness inside you and I am worried for your soul.
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I started this post before the ball was bounced on my iPhone at the ground.
Nothing I saw during the game changed my mind.
If anything, the more I watched the more I realized how wrong the decision to play him was!
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His 2 goals for essington were really good.
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Too small.
As is King.
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Nahas becomes the third wheel as Tigers' wheel turns
Jesse Hogan
The Age
June 21, 2013
He was a mainstay of Richmond's forward line in the past two seasons, outscored only by spearhead Jack Riewoldt. But as the Tigers have dragged themselves into finals contention this season, Robin Nahas has been a notable casualty.
The lively small forward played every match in 2011 and 2012. As well kicking 63 goals (29 in 2011 and then 34), Nahas was renowned for his tackling in the Tigers' attacking half.
But in 2013, Nahas has conspicuously dropped in Richmond's pecking order. His first two appearances were as a substitute – he was dropped after each of those matches – and has not been selected since round nine, despite ranking in Coburg's top two players in his past two VFL matches.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick reckons the change in Nahas' status is due more to the quality of alternative small-forward options rather than a drop in his training or playing standards.
"I think the competition's definitely increased. Robin, to his credit, is actually playing some reasonable football. He's just got to wait for his opportunity to come. I've got no doubt he'll take it [when it occurs]," Hardwick said.
"He's a player that's certainly got some things in his game that we really like. He's a noted goalkicker. At the moment he's basically competing with Shane Edwards and Jake King for a spot, and we think those two guys have got him at the moment."
Of those two preferred small forwards, King is proving to be the primary scoring threat – he has 16 goals in 10 matches, compared with Edwards' seven from 11 – while Edwards ranks fourth at the club for tackles, with 35.
King was this week rewarded with a one-year contract extension.
While Nahas' goalscoring record in the VFL is not dazzling – he has kicked 10 in six matches – Hardwick said he had no qualms with his efforts while out of the senior team.
"He's a quality kid. He's training just as hard as last year, if not harder," he said.
Hardwick also suggested injury-plagued defender Dylan Grimes was not a realistic chance of returning to the seniors before the last month of the regular season.
Grimes is in his fourth season at Richmond but has managed only 22 matches. In 2011 and 2012 he suffered serious hamstring injuries. He overcame those issues to play five of the first six matches this year, until an unrelated foot injury emerged.
Hardwick said Grimes had been cleared on Wednesday to discard his protective moonboot, but was still at least a fortnight away from being able to join his teammates in general training sessions.
"It's just one of those periods where we've got to make sure we don't push him too hard, to make sure it heals appropriately. Then it's probably 3-4 weeks after that to see how he progresses through VFL to AFL," Hardwick said.
"We're not going to rush him at any stage. If he comes back in for the last five or six games of the season that'd be a great result for us."
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/nahas-becomes-the-third-wheel-as-tigers-wheel-turns-20130620-2olyp.html#ixzz2WoX3yz3B
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"Richmond coach Damien Hardwick reckons the change in Nahas' status is due more to the quality of alternative small-forward options rather than a drop in his training or playing standards."
And I thought it's because he's slow and doesn't look remotely threatening when he goes near the ball....
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slow? lmao good one coconut
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Slow relatively speaking. Sure he can run down the average purse snatcher, but he hasn't exactly burnt any one off with his 'pace' this year
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Slow relatively speaking. Sure he can run down the average purse snatcher, but he hasn't exactly burnt any one off with his 'pace' this year
I thought it had something to do with this
(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Robin+Nahas+AFL+Rd+8+Essendon+v+Richmond+8_hg-NusRwvl.jpg)
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NAHAS IS SLOW
slo in mind
slow in courage
slow to get off the ground and back in the contest
and slow at running, maybe his legs move fast but so did fred flinstone, running on the spot does not count
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Who cares what he is, he should be gone end of season and never wear our jumper again :police:
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Ease up folks, the tripod has always played to the best of his abilities, problem has always been he is a little light, don't poo on him because he may not be in the best line up anymore sheesh.
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I remember when he was our best player in 2009
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I remember when he was our best player in 2009
When he had currency some of us were of the opinion to trade him for someone decent.
Now we wouldn't get a chocolate paddle pop for him.
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I remember when he was our best player in 2009
When he had currency some of us were of the opinion to trade him for someone decent.
Now we wouldn't get a chocolate paddle pop for him.
Trade him to the porn industry for a sexy land voucher and purchase a Dr and nurse outfit? :shh
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Slow relatively speaking. Sure he can run down the average purse snatcher, but he hasn't exactly burnt any one off with his 'pace' this year
I thought it had something to do with this
(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Robin+Nahas+AFL+Rd+8+Essendon+v+Richmond+8_hg-NusRwvl.jpg)
What is that projecting from his pants behind the ball?
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Yesterday you would imagine will end up being Robbie's last game for Richmond. It will now be up to another club if Robbie is continue his AFL career.
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Robbie was 'Bronx' cheered when he was subbed off yesterday. Bad form by those involved, we have to be above that rubbish.
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Robbie was 'Bronx' cheered when he was subbed off yesterday. Bad form by those involved, we have to be above that rubbish.
I cheered for Tuck as he was running on as did a number of ppl from my side, I can't speak for other ppl but I was cheering for yucky coming on. He us my fav player, it also seemed other people were excited for him to come on.
Just on Robbie yesterday, I thought he was poor but I believe it was a confidence issue and it is shot at the moment. Just hasn't been a season for him to remember
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Just couldn't get into the game. Had no impact. This season has been a disaster for him
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I thought the cheer was for Tuck coming on. That's certainly what the applause was for in my area.
As for Nahas, stood out when we were poo 2-3 years ago. But now seems to be the only bloke who hasn't improved. Done like a dog's dinner IMO.
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Migrated into list blocker territory
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Robbie was 'Bronx' cheered when he was subbed off yesterday. Bad form by those involved, we have to be above that rubbish.
I cheered for Tuck as he was running on as did a number of ppl from my side, I can't speak for other ppl but I was cheering for yucky coming on. He us my fav player, it also seemed other people were excited for him to come on.
Just on Robbie yesterday, I thought he was poor but I believe it was a confidence issue and it is shot at the moment. Just hasn't been a season for him to remember
I wasn't there so there may have been a misinterpretation by the commentators....if so I'm happy to be wrong.
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People where I was sitting were calling for Tuck to come on and I believe the cheer was more to do with Tuck coming on and a sense of about time
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Robbie was 'Bronx' cheered when he was subbed off yesterday. Bad form by those involved, we have to be above that rubbish.
I cheered for Tuck as he was running on as did a number of ppl from my side, I can't speak for other ppl but I was cheering for yucky coming on. He us my fav player, it also seemed other people were excited for him to come on.
Just on Robbie yesterday, I thought he was poor but I believe it was a confidence issue and it is shot at the moment. Just hasn't been a season for him to remember
I wasn't there so there may have been a misinterpretation by the commentators....if so I'm happy to be wrong.
May not be wrong at all, depends where the sound was coming from at the time. Im on the punt road end and when I saw tucky about to come on the cheers had started. At that stage we were looking very flat and perhaps people were hoping he was the answer to fire up the boys, at least I was. But I was mistaken :thumbsup
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I cheered for both. Nanas was rubbish again and it's bloody frustrating to see him get games in front of others. Should be the end of him at Richmond, he was good while we were crap.
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AFL Off Season Information. Trades, Delistings, Retirements facebook page
Tigers player Robin Nahas will walk out on Richmond at the end of this season. He is a wanted player and the Western Bulldogs has very high up on their target list.
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That's a shame the Bullflogs are doing OK lately
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AFL Off Season Information. Trades, Delistings, Retirements facebook page
Tigers player Robin Nahas will walk out on Richmond at the end of this season. He is a wanted player and the Western Bulldogs has very high up on their target list.
We won't stop him walking out as Robbie would be delisted anyway. Too small and light in the body which means he gets pushed off the ball too easily against the other top sides with their bigger stronger bodies. Add to that he's totally one-sided and even on his kicking leg he fluffs too many kicks under no pressure.
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In all honesty has probably conceded more goals directly from his turn overs than he's actually been involved in our way this year. His last game and the Dreamtime game spring to mind.
Was serviceable when we were crap but the team has lifted and left him behind and he looks horribly exposed.
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Will laugh if we get a reasonable pick for him :D
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You cant walk out of a club if youve already been shown the door.
So Whats he walking out of? The front garden? Time to kick the dog off the front lawn.
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Straight swap for Howard would do me just fine.
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proven gun VFL players and has shown abit in AFL
gotta be worth something
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Richmond has told out-of-contract small forward Robin Nahas that it will test the trade market with him and would not stand in his way if he found another home. The Tigers are unlikely to re-sign Nahas should no other club be tempted by the lightly framed forward.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/watts-set-to-stay-at-melbourne-20130910-2tid8.html#ixzz2eVTpfZRy
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Colonwood
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Correct decision to move him on
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No surprise there ;D
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Nahas is a very good VFL player. l have enjoyed his time at the club. he gave it 100% considering his size. thanks for the service
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Nahas is a very good VFL player. l have enjoyed his time at the club. he gave it 100% considering his size. thanks for the service
Agreed, but it is frustrating that they have decided to try and trade him now as opposed to 1-2 years ago when he had a little more currency. Would be surprised if we got anything more than a 4th rounder for him.
Other scenario is they trade him to a club for a player that we want (like Aaron Edwards) and then we all go mental at the trade :rollin
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Nahas is a very good VFL player. l have enjoyed his time at the club. he gave it 100% considering his size. thanks for the service
Agreed, but it is frustrating that they have decided to try and trade him now as opposed to 1-2 years ago when he had a little more currency. Would be surprised if we got anything more than a 4th rounder for him.
Other scenario is they trade him to a club for a player that we want (like Aaron Edwards) and then we all go mental at the trade :rollin
Actually thanks to that article he is unlikely to be traded. It says if he doesn't get traded then he is unikely to be re-signed; meaning he will get de-listed and head into the drafts. Some teams will just use a late pick (say 4th ot 5th rd) on him
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Nahas is a very good VFL player. l have enjoyed his time at the club. he gave it 100% considering his size. thanks for the service
Agreed, but it is frustrating that they have decided to try and trade him now as opposed to 1-2 years ago when he had a little more currency. Would be surprised if we got anything more than a 4th rounder for him.
Other scenario is they trade him to a club for a player that we want (like Aaron Edwards) and then we all go mental at the trade :rollin
Actually thanks to that article he is unlikely to be traded. It says if he doesn't get traded then he is unikely to be re-signed; meaning he will get de-listed and head into the drafts. Some teams will just use a late pick (say 4th ot 5th rd) on him
In fact, they can just grab him as a delisted free agent. However, it's just media speculation. I'm sure the club didn't say they'll delist him.
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no club would trade for nahas,
maybe last 2 years they would have, not now
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I hear the dogs want him and might trade a low pick, maybe 3rd round.
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I find that hard to believe but if true Id take it in a second
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lol at the he was good when we were crap comments.
this bloke has never been good and there are others getting games just like him.
he should never ever have been drafted. too many weaknesses that have bit him hard on the arse and just didnt tick enough boxes.
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In fairness to Nahas, he had a good half of a season in 2011.
He was playing really good footy and working hard up the ground and losing his opponents on the way back.
Unfortunately he only sustained this for a short period of time and got way to far ahead of himself.
Having been involved with Coburg for a few years in the past, IMO Robin has a very opinion of himself and has a terrible attitude towards team mates and fails to do the team thing on most occasions.
Dont let the door hit you on the way out :wallywink
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Bit of a flog this guy. Has posted on an internet forum defending himself before too :lol
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Bit of a flog this guy. Has posted on an internet forum defending himself before too :lol
If anyone can dig that up Bents could
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In 2011 a mutual friend of our's told me he was after a 5-year contract on the back of his good form which made me laugh.
Was also told he was one of the best FIFA players on Playstation - a claim backed up at least twice afterwards lol.
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Buggering him off now would be impeccable timing then with FIFA 14 around the corner.
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He ll find himself a home, proved himself to be no slouch with 0ver 60 goals in successive seasons. No shame in not being able to break into RFC side in 2013. 2-3 r draft pick beckons or maybe jarred grant :shh
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^
No more skinny kids!
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2-3 r draft pick beckons or maybe jarred grant :shh
For the love of all things humane BJ, not Grant, he's a spud of the highest order (and a damn ugly one at that). :nope :nope :nope
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West Coast and Carlton have shown some interest in Richmond small forward, Robbie Nahas - Herald Sun
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Pick 28 for Nahas? :lol
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How much interest would we get in Foley or Newman if we chucked them on the trade table?
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Nahas for Metch Robinson & Dennis Armfeld
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How much interest would we get in Foley or Newman if we chucked them on the trade table?
Foley a little, Newman none.
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:pray
Getting something for nahas white mcgaune would be excellent
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There has been some interest in Robbie Nahas from West Coast, none from Carlton. It's early interest at this stage and they expect more enquiries over the next week or so.
http://www.afl.com.au/trade-period/trade-radio
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:pray
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Tom Petroro said West Coast had been in discussion with him on Tiger Robbie Nahas as he considers better opportunities elsewhere
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I'm assuming that we're waiting to see the compensation that we get for White and McGuane (if he leaves). Reckon we'll try and upgrade that 2nd rounder (assuming) to the Eagles' 2nd rounder.
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I'm assuming that we're waiting to see the compensation that we get for White and McGuane (if he leaves). Reckon we'll try and upgrade that 2nd rounder (assuming) to the Eagles' 2nd rounder.
Surely adding Nahas into any deal will downgrade it, not upgrade it ;D
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Take a 3rd or 4th round draft pick for him!
GET IT DONE RICHMOND!
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Take a 3rd or 4th round draft pick for him!
GET IT DONE RICHMOND!
Would trade him for two cheeseburgers and a gold class movie ticket.
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Take a 3rd or 4th round draft pick for him!
GET IT DONE RICHMOND!
Would trade him for two cheeseburgers and a gold class movie ticket.
Would take the cheeseburgers only
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Wouldn't surprise to see nahas bob up at. WC , his game is made for the fast tracks of. Subi and with his innate tackling pressure I50 to compliment his ability as a goal sneak , I can see him as a walk up start into their side. I'd be prepared to release him for a r3 selection to further his career, he was never going to force his way back into a winning side :clapping
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Take a 3rd or 4th round draft pick for him!
GET IT DONE RICHMOND!
Would trade him for two cheeseburgers and a gold class movie ticket.
Would take the cheeseburgers only
Fries?
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Take a 3rd or 4th round draft pick for him!
GET IT DONE RICHMOND!
Would trade him for two cheeseburgers and a gold class movie ticket.
Would take the cheeseburgers only
Fries?
Would take it as a bonus
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West Coast also interested in bongs
The chesseburger and fries untouchable
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just goes to show. one mans trash is another mans treasure.
wce 3rd rounder would be great thanks. please no jumping for joy before the deal is done, we dont wont to let the cat out of the bag.
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West Coast also interested in bongs
The chesseburger and fries untouchable
History shows West Coast are interested in something harsher than a bong. ;D
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Richmond set to trade or delist small forward Robin Nahas
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
October 15, 2013 4:50PM
RICHMOND has told Robin Nahas it will not offer him another contract if it cannot secure a trade for the talented small forward.
West Coast is believed to be the only team with any interest so far and even the Eagles are lukewarm at best about the 83-game veteran.
The Tigers decided not to bid for Geelong small forward Paul Chapman and believe they have enough cover if 25-year-old Nahas departs.
Richmond has given up pick 28 for Carlton's Shaun Hampson, and with picks 11 and 46 still in hand will do little more in the trade period.
Greater Western Sydney's Dylan Shiel is not a target, with Richmond likely to bolster their midfield with another talented onballer in November's national draft.
The Tigers have stocked up with Nick Vlastuin, Brandon Ellis, Reece Conca and Dustin Martin in recent seasons with all of them showing great promise.
It came as Richmond development coach Mark Williams lauded the improvement of recently re-signed Tiger Dustin Martin.
Martin came close to walking away from the club but Williams said he had become extremely close to the controversial Tiger.
"Our family’s been really close with him. He’s come over every week, enjoyed spending time with my kids and wife, and having dinner with us,” Williams told the club website.
“I’ve also seen the development (in Martin) that others wouldn’t have. He’s been at Caulfield Grammar and presented to the Year 9 group, for my son Louie, and he was outstanding.
“There were some concerns going into it, but straight away afterwards, the headmaster said, can he come back every year.
"He had 55 shots on goal (this season), and midfielders don’t (usually) have that, so that’s brilliant. He also had the second most possessions for us and, something that people wouldn’t realise, he was No.2 in the AFL for score involvements.
"So, he’s touched the ball somewhere in us scoring, the second most in the whole AFL, which is just unbelievable."
Despite Nahas moving on after playing just six games this year, the Tigers will back in Shane Edwards, Jake King and second-year flanker Matthew McDonough as small forwards.
They are also keen to play their midfielders as resting forwards including Trent Cotchin and Martin, with Chris Knights to return from knee surgery in time for the pre-season.
Richmond has lost Matthew White to Port Adelaide on a three-year deal and Luke McGuane has left for Brisbane.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-set-to-trade-or-delist-small-forward-robin-nahas/story-fndv8t7m-1226740438268#mm-breached
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McGuane officially to Brisbane?
So compensation for White and McGuane???
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McGuane officially to Brisbane?
So compensation for White and McGuane???
McGuane has three days left to sign with Brisbane or we loose him for nothing.
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Who'd trade for him now it's apparently common knowledge he'll be delisted? Are we after another Morton type deal for a token pick we won't use?
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Back in Edwards and King. Give me a break
Ones a spud who should've been traded years ago and the other is on his last legs
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Good news for Richmond going forward. :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Was always at risk of being listed after the season he had. Would be a win for the club and player we would could trade him to West Coast
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Greater Western Sydney's Dylan Shiel is not a target,
Of course he isn't a target for us. He's a gun player. We only go after players who can't get a game at their present club :banghead
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with all these gun players GWS have, its amazing they never made the top 4
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good he was clearly never happy after round 1 when he was a sub for most of the game his attitude after that game lost a lot of people.
I still cant believe we wont take chapman come on guys if chapman is not better then nahas and king put together then ill go he :banghead
Chpaman is after 300k a year combined nahas and king would have been on that
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with all these gun players GWS have, its amazing they never made the top 4
Owl I would say GWS only have half a dozen genuine future stars (Cameron, Greene, Adams, Shiel, Treloar and possibly Smith) mixed in with some pretty ordinary players. Patten has done nothing yet and Whitfield is still too raw to tell if he will take the next step. All their other early picks are developing quite slowly.
They do have one young guy which we should keep a close eye on and his name is Zac Williams (no he is not off Wayne's mates fantasy list, he is a real player ;D). This kid will be a gun. From Country NSW. Playing style reminds me very much of Kieren Jack. Averaged about 18 disposals in the last 6 rounds that he played. Not sure of his contract status but Richmond if you are listening, have a good look at this kid and see if we can entice him to Tigerland before he gets too good.
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with all these gun players GWS have, its amazing they never made the top 4
Give it some time
Hard to imagine gas / GC not top four and years if raping talent ed drafties
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We are gonna lose him for nothing. Should've kept him for depth :banghead
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Trade Radio @traderadio twitter:
"Damo [Damian Barrett] says as far as he can tell, there isn't another club out there interested in Robbie Nahas"
No surprise.
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... years if raping talent ed drafties
Jeepers, can't see them finishing anywhere but last if this is what goes down. :o
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with all these gun players GWS have, its amazing they never made the top 4
im pretty certain in two yrs time you will going oh stuff why did all the clubs allow the afl to give them so much.
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with all these gun players GWS have, its amazing they never made the top 4
im pretty certain in two yrs time you will going oh stuff why did all the clubs allow the afl to give them so much.
Or the other clubs use them as a feeder club. :lol
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Yum. They need to get some experienced players though, kids, no matter how talented can't learn much from other kids.
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set too lol Nahas was chopped longtime ago ;D
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set too lol Nahas was chopped longtime ago ;D
Sure was. Likewise X-man.
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set too lol Nahas was chopped longtime ago ;D
Sure was. Likewise X-man.
who is X man, you been watching cartoons ;D
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Monkey I think he mean't Derickx was also given the chop early.
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set too lol Nahas was chopped longtime ago ;D
Sure was. Likewise X-man.
who is X man, you been watching cartoons ;D
Derickx. Plays like a cartoon character.
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Oh ok ;D he never made a roar this year so l thought he was chopped last year ;D
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Nahas keen to continue his journey
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
October 26, 2013 11:02 AM
ROBIN Nahas is committed to continuing his AFL career despite not finding a home during the trade period, and is prepared to go anywhere to do it.
The 25-year-old is expected to be delisted by Richmond this week after he didn't move from the Tigers during the Gillette AFL Player Exchange Period.
He will now decide whether to enter next month's NAB AFL Draft or the pre-season draft in a bid to continue his AFL journey.
West Coast has expressed some interest while there have been a few other clubs who have made preliminary enquiries about the 83-game forward.
Nahas could be recruited by another club as a delisted free agent once the Tigers have made their call, with the first window opening on Friday, November 1.
He is also open to taking on a rookie list spot and moving interstate if it became an option.
The pacy goal-kicker has been holidaying overseas but will return this weekend.
Nahas started his career at Punt Road as a rookie after being taken by the Tigers with their first selection in the 2008 rookie draft.
He had caught their eye during his third season with VFL club Port Melbourne with a 50-goal year, which won him the Fothergill-Round medal for being the most promising young talent in the competition.
He made his AFL debut in round two, 2009, after being elevated to the senior list for former captain Kane Johnson, and went on to play 19 games in his first year.
He won Richmond's best first-year player award for his efforts.
Nahas played just six games this season after falling behind the likes of Jake King and Shane Edwards at the selection table.
The Tigers were quiet during the trade period overall, bringing in Carlton ruckman Shaun Hampson early and losing Matt White to Port Adelaide via free agency.
Luke McGuane will also leave the club and is keen to join former Richmond assistant coach Justin Leppitsch at the Brisbane Lions in the next few weeks.
The first list lodgement deadline is Thursday, October 31 at 2pm.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-26/nahas-keen-to-go-on
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This isn't the end, insists Nahas
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
November 1, 2013
ROBBIE Nahas believes he hasn't reached the end of his AFL journey and says he has plenty to offer a club willing to offer him a second chance.
The 25-year-old was delisted by Richmond this week but knew his days as a Tiger were over before the Gillette AFL Player Exchange Period began.
He knew the Tigers were going to try to trade him, and failing that, would cut him loose.
He has since returned from a two-and-a-half week US holiday but has been training since the end of the season in the hope of earning a lifeline.
The durable small forward says he will move anywhere and even take a rookie spot for the second time in his career if it means he can keep playing football.
"I've played the majority of games since I've been on an AFL list. I haven't missed too many and my stats haven't been too bad," Nahas told AFL.com.au in an exclusive interview.
"You don't really know what's going to happen. You just hope for the best and keep training and that's all I can do at the moment."
Nahas played every game in 2011 and 2012 before the Richmond team structure changed this season.
Shane Edwards and Jake King were picked ahead of Nahas, meaning he was relegated to the VFL for much of the season and finished with six senior appearances.
He was played across half-back in the second half of the season for Coburg, which he said was an experiment that allowed him to play good football and demonstrated his versatility.
He came second in Coburg's best and fairest despite playing just 14 games.
Even though his last year at Richmond didn't go to plan, Nahas has left the Tigers in a positive frame of mind, with his relationships with coach Damien Hardwick and good friends Edwards and King intact.
"The change of structure just hurt my position," he said.
"There became less positions available for my type of player in our side and that was the way it went.
"I did whatever I could to get back in the side and it was a tough year but one you learn a lot from to be honest, and you mature as a player and a person.
"You realise how quickly this can be taken away from you."
Nahas attended the Richmond best and fairest in early October despite knowing his fate, and has remained positive about adding to the 83 AFL games he played between 2009 and this year.
His manager Tom Petroro is handling enquiries and Nahas is yet to personally speak to any clubs having just returned from his holiday.
There have been links to West Coast and murmurings of other interest but nothing concrete.
Nahas will enter the NAB AFL Draft and NAB AFL Rookie Draft – where he got his start at Richmond in 2008 – if he isn't picked up as a delisted free agent next week.
But he remains sure he can offer someone something and is determined to repay any faith shown in him.
"I was understanding [this year]. You're understanding but you don't accept the position; no one should, especially at this level where everyone is pretty competitive for spots," he said.
"As understanding as you are, you shouldn't accept that. I never did.
"I'm 25 years old and I've still got plenty of football ahead of me and I've still got plenty to offer. I just know that for me this isn't the end.
"I haven't even packed up my locker yet. Until I'm moving to a new club, I'm not taking anything out of my locker."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-01/this-isnt-the-end
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Lol
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Hasn't packed his locker lol.
Go girl! You tell 'em...
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im still doing cartwheels hes gone. good yr for old claw. mcguane . white and nahas all gonski reckon me face will crack if im not careful.
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im still doing cartwheels hes gone. good yr for old claw. mcguane . white and nahas all gonski reckon me face will crack if im not careful.
Easy up there Claw don't want to go overboard on the postiveness
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Claw was being positive?...where
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"I haven't even packed up my locker yet. Until I'm moving to a new club, I'm not taking anything out of my locker."
Oh boy. Got a feeling locker #26 will still have a lot of Robbies stuff in it when a new draftee gets given the locker.
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stuff off nahas
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Claw was being positive?...where
I thought we was applauding the club for getting rid of some spuds, I could be wrong
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"I haven't even packed up my locker yet. Until I'm moving to a new club, I'm not taking anything out of my locker."
Oh boy. Got a feeling locker #26 will still have a lot of Robbies stuff in it when a new draftee gets given the locker.
Lucky we are retiring the number
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"I haven't even packed up my locker yet. Until I'm moving to a new club, I'm not taking anything out of my locker."
Oh boy. Got a feeling locker #26 will still have a lot of Robbies stuff in it when a new draftee gets given the locker.
few packets of extra large ones that I'm unsure a new draftee could use tbh.
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Good luck to him. Tried hard. Right decision to let him go.
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stuff off nahas
x2
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Good luck to him. Tried hard. Right decision to let him go.
"Moving forward, the services of Robbie have become somewhat redundant. The RFC coaching staff, players and administration wish Robbie all the best in his future endeavours."
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stuff off nahas
x2
class
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He can take is crap out of the locker
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He played a bit of good footy but was always gonna be punching out of his weight.
No hard feelings....now.
Good luck.
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He played a bit of good footy but was always gonna be punching out of his weight.
No hard feelings....now.
Good luck.
Our forward line was too small with Edwards white king and nahas. He played some good footy, tough little fella, saw him wear some big hits, always got straight back up...hope he gets a chance
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Just stuff him off. I dont log on here to indulge in good intentions.
Clear your effint locker out and stuff off fooltard.
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Monday nights are rawkus up in this chat roozle. :clapping
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Lmao Willy's avatar strikes again. :lol
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Whispers that Robbie could be picked up by Williamstown if all AFL clubs overlook him in the upcoming drafts.
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There are rumours this morning that delisted Richmond small forward, Robbie Nahas is set to sign with North Melbourne as a delisted free agent.
Facebook rumour, but hilarious none the less.
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Brayshaw getting all his mates in.
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Brayshaw getting all his mates in.
Imagine Nicky Dal showering in between Nahas and Daw :lol
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He can take is crap out of the locker
He did it this morning
There was a swedish pe n is pump, a fifa edition PSP and a half eaten chook wrapper from northcote :shh
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official.
Norf!
lmao
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He can take is crap out of the locker
He did it this morning
There was a swedish pe n is pump, a fifa edition PSP and a half eaten chook wrapper from northcote :shh
:lol
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Nahas to join the Kangaroos
Mark Macgugan
afl.com.au
November 7, 2013
NORTH Melbourne has declared its intention to sign discarded Richmond forward Robin Nahas as a delisted free agent.
The Kangaroos announced on Thursday they had met with the 25-year-old, and would lodge paperwork with the AFL on Friday morning.
Nahas' recruitment will fill the need for a small forward partner for Lindsay Thomas after the club was unsuccessful in its chase for free agent Eddie Betts in October.
Betts chose to leave Carlton and sign with Adelaide.
Nahas played 83 games for the Tigers and kicked 100 goals, but managed only six senior games in 2013.
He is set to join his new teammates on North Melbourne's pre-season training camp in Utah, departing on November 15.
Kangaroos list manager Cameron Joyce said the 176cm livewire would be a strong addition to the club's list.
"He'll bring some more speed to our forward-line and just as important, some more defensive pressure in our forward half," Joyce told nmfc.com.au.
"Robin is known for his pace, energy and tackling pressure and we feel he will be a very solid contributor."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-07/nahas-joins-north
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Nahas to join the Kangaroos
NORTH Melbourne has declared its intention to sign discarded Richmond forward Robin Nahas as a delisted free agent.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Will someone now grab all the crap out of his locker and donate it to Vinnies. The stuff will eventually find its way to Arden St through natural progression.
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I hope he doesnt crack it at Norf when he is made sub....dont think Brad Scott is too different from Dimma in his no $%^heads policy.
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probably a better option for north than chris the greek
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I hope he doesnt crack it at Norf when he is made sub....dont think Brad Scott is too different from Dimma in his no $%^heads policy.
The difference is Brad Scott's policy is "no d---kheads apart from the coach".
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I hope he doesnt crack it at Norf when he is made sub....dont think Brad Scott is too different from Dimma in his no $%^heads policy.
The difference is Brad Scott's policy is "no d---kheads apart from the coach".
It depends on what he cracks, he might poke Brads eye out
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Looooooll thread is gold :lol :clapping
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He still lives!
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Nahas to join the Kangaroos
NORTH Melbourne has declared its intention to sign discarded Richmond forward Robin Nahas as a delisted free agent.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
whats funnier is that we kept Edwards and dumped Nahas. They are both the same in my eyes.
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Edwards has hands quicker than an Porteguese swamp rat though
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Nahas article in the Herald-Sun...
"You understand that it's a business and things change pretty quickly. There's no grudges towards the Richmond Football Club, they've been fantastic to me over my five years there, I've got great memories.
"But a change of structure last year hurt my position, so you just move on."[/u]
Read more at: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/robin-nahas-excited-about-getting-second-chance-at-north-melbourne/story-fndv8rij-1226755998814#mm-breached
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So North rate Nahas higher than Azza in front of goal?
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Nae they rate black higher than azza
Taking a punt on a talented highly rated kpf... unlike us
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if we were smart we would have asked about kieren harper struggled to get a game last yr could have offered up something with nahas as steak knives.
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Nae they rate black higher than azza
Taking a punt on a talented highly rated kpf... unlike us
no punt taken the kid could always play. bastinac, black and carlisle was the straw that broke the camels back and in no small way led to me getting banned over at pre.
i was adamant we take bastinac if we were to take a mid. if was to be a tall it had to be carlisle or black. geez we got griffiths and i think i was one of few who voiced displeasure.a pretty astute poster called tiger bob and i had some real heated arguments over this which got me into a bit of strife.. geez ben griffiths put another one down to francis jackson it was a risk he took and it has bitten him hard.
most richmond people love francis jackson but i cant work out why. yep hes had some decent 1st round selections but really if you cant get 95% of your first rounders right you should not be in the caper.
its the 2nd and 3rd rounders the griffiths picks where hes failed abysmally.
hughes 24 , casserley 40 , s edwards at 26, rance at 18, post 26, griffiths19, astbury 35 , dea 44, batchelor 30 , helbig 47, elton 26, mcintosh 31, mcbean 33, mcdonough 42 .thats every 2nd and 3rd round pick by jackson. leave out the last 2 drafts as its way too early it does not make for pretty reading. in his time at the club i can only attribute one decent pick to him in the second or third rounds thats rance and even hes had issues.
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Nae they rate black higher than azza
Taking a punt on a talented highly rated kpf... unlike us
no punt taken the kid could always play. bastinac, black and carlisle was the straw that broke the camels back and in no small way led to me getting banned over at pre.
i was adamant we take bastinac if we were to take a mid. if was to be a tall it had to be carlisle or black. geez we got griffiths and i think i was one of few who voiced displeasure.a pretty astute poster called tiger bob and i had some real heated arguments over this which got me into a bit of strife.. geez ben griffiths put another one down to francis jackson it was a risk he took and it has bitten him hard.
most richmond people love francis jackson but i cant work out why. yep hes had some decent 1st round selections but really if you cant get 95% of your first rounders right you should not be in the caper.
its the 2nd and 3rd rounders the griffiths picks where hes failed abysmally.
hughes 24 , casserley 40 , s edwards at 26, rance at 18, post 26, griffiths19, astbury 35 , dea 44, batchelor 30 , helbig 47, elton 26, mcintosh 31, mcbean 33, mcdonough 42 .thats every 2nd and 3rd round pick by jackson. leave out the last 2 drafts as its way too early it does not make for pretty reading. in his time at the club i can only attribute one decent pick to him in the second or third rounds thats rance and even hes had issues.
I agree with most of that Claw and have said so for a long while regarding FJ. But if you still think Rance has issues than you have issues. Alex Rance is one of the better young backman in the game. He is strong, athletic, brave, consistent, gets heaps of the footy, and his disposal has improved out of site! Whatever your gripe with him is, get over it! It's ok to have been massively wrong about him and it takes a man to admit it. Alex Rance is a class act and is a huge reason why we have improved from being a middle to low ranked side to a good and on the up finals side.
I don't know why it gets up me so much but I just cannot handle when people have NFI about players like Rance. Credit must go where credit is due!
Any team in the AFL would love a player of Alex's abitly and character.
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Nae they rate black higher than azza
Taking a punt on a talented highly rated kpf... unlike us
no punt taken the kid could always play. bastinac, black and carlisle was the straw that broke the camels back and in no small way led to me getting banned over at pre.
i was adamant we take bastinac if we were to take a mid. if was to be a tall it had to be carlisle or black. geez we got griffiths and i think i was one of few who voiced displeasure.a pretty astute poster called tiger bob and i had some real heated arguments over this which got me into a bit of strife.. geez ben griffiths put another one down to francis jackson it was a risk he took and it has bitten him hard.
most richmond people love francis jackson but i cant work out why. yep hes had some decent 1st round selections but really if you cant get 95% of your first rounders right you should not be in the caper.
its the 2nd and 3rd rounders the griffiths picks where hes failed abysmally.
hughes 24 , casserley 40 , s edwards at 26, rance at 18, post 26, griffiths19, astbury 35 , dea 44, batchelor 30 , helbig 47, elton 26, mcintosh 31, mcbean 33, mcdonough 42 .thats every 2nd and 3rd round pick by jackson. leave out the last 2 drafts as its way too early it does not make for pretty reading. in his time at the club i can only attribute one decent pick to him in the second or third rounds thats rance and even hes had issues.
I agree with most of that Claw and have said so for a long while regarding FJ. But if you still think Rance has issues than you have issues. Alex Rance is one of the better young backman in the game. He is strong, athletic, brave, consistent, gets heaps of the footy, and his disposal has improved out of site! Whatever your gripe with him is, get over it! It's ok to have been massively wrong about him and it takes a man to admit it. Alex Rance is a class act and is a huge reason why we have improved from being a middle to low ranked side to a good and on the up finals side.
I don't know why it gets up me so much but I just cannot handle when people have NFI about players like Rance. Credit must go where credit is due!
Any team in the AFL would love a player of Alex's abitly and character.
Claw said Rance was a decent pick, so no worries there. Of course he still has issues, but they're minor compared to those before Dimma and Leppitch came to our club.
Fully agree with how FJ is overrated. He's treated like a ghod by those who aren't in the loop of our recruiting department.
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Fully agree with how FJ is overrated. He's treated like a ghod by those who aren't in the loop of our recruiting department.
And how do those "in the loop of our recruiting" think of him?
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Fully agree with how FJ is overrated. He's treated like a ghod by those who aren't in the loop of our recruiting department.
And how do those "in the loop of our recruiting" think of him?
That he's overrated, of course.
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so all those in the loop of recruiting at Richmond think he's overrated, yet they still keep him in the job?
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Fully agree with how FJ is overrated. He's treated like a ghod by those who aren't in the loop of our recruiting department.
And how do those "in the loop of our recruiting" think of him?
That he's overrated, of course.
so all those in the loop of recruiting at Richmond think he's overrated, yet they still keep him in the job?
And here I thought I was the only one left doing this :huh3 and was wondering how he keeps his job
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Making sense is overrated, you guys. Anyone in the loop knows that.
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:lol
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How do people feel Robin Nahas has been going at North?
Do you think that it was a good idea dumping him now? ;D
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Done more than banfield that's for sure
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Gone & forgotten, no-one cares what his doing anymore ;D
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Nahas played well for us in his first year to, then we we were treated to many years of crap
Will be delisted next year
Read it here first
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Don't feed the troll
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Don't feed the troll
At least you can pick them! :clapping
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Robin Nahas showing Richmond how to have some heart and play some football, along with his mate Matty White!
I love this club
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Nahas has been poo tonight and will continue to be poo in the future.
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Put this topic in the bin section
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No loss.
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Nahas played well for us in his first year to, then we we were treated to many years of crap
Will be delisted next year
Read it here first
Told you all
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/superfooty-lists-all-the-players-who-have-hung-up-the-boots-or-are-seeking-afl-new-homes-in-2015/story-fni5f22o-1227043936463
The Kangaroos cut Robin Nahas after just one injury-interrupted season at Arden St along with Taylor Hine, Liam Anthony, Cameron Delaney, Tom Curran and Mitch Wilkins.
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Robin Nahas showing Richmond how to have some heart and play some football, along with his mate Matty White!
I love this club
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, grass is always greener on the other side isnt it
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Robin Nahas showing Richmond how to have some heart and play some football, along with his mate Matty White!
I love this club
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, grass is always greener on the other side isnt it
We should rookie him again....
(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/113447/2544610-9677265894-12292.jpg)
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Being a small player & then suffering a serious shoulder injury, The Roos have made a excellent decision after just 1 year. Took us a few year too many like always to get rid of a player. ;D
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Robbie did ok for a VFL level player with one foot. He was a bit of a dick in my meetings with him but still best of luck to him.
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Poor bloke, only bloke at n0rf that wasn't homeless
Probably penis envy or something :shh