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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on February 05, 2009, 01:58:44 AM
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We'll be having back-to-back trips to Perth if the Eagles beat Collingwood and we also win ::)
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A similar accommodation has been agreed to should Victory host the A-League grand final a week later, on February 28. The AFL has a round-two match of its pre-season competition, to be played between the winners of Collingwood and West Coast and Fremantle and Richmond, scheduled for the venue on the same day.
An AFL spokesman said yesterday if either or both of the Western Australian teams win through to the second round the match will be transferred to Subiaco Oval.
Should the game be between Collingwood and Richmond, who could be putting Ben Cousins in a Tigers jumper for the first time, it will be transferred to another Victorian venue.
The Victory takes on Adelaide this Saturday at Hindmarsh Stadium in the first of a two-legged semi-final that will decide which team hosts the grand final.
Melbourne won the 2006-07 A-League grand final at Telstra Dome before a capacity crowd of 55,000.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25009250-5012432,00.html
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We'll be having back-to-back trips to Perth if the Eagles beat Collingwood and we also win ::)
Should the game be between Collingwood and Richmond, who could be putting Ben Cousins in a Tigers jumper for the first time, it will be transferred to another Victorian venue.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25009250-5012432,00.html
Not 2 trips to Geelong in the year please.
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Not 2 trips to Geelong in the year please.
Seems like the only other possible suitable "Victorian" venue as Princes Park isn't an option
Would be bearable seeing we wouldn't have to put up with the Geelong ferals down there
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If we beat Freo then we could be playing Collingwood at Princes Park even though it's a construction site :-\
http://sportal.com.au/AFL-news-display/afl-to-face-a-dilemma-64654
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Looks like thats where we be playing.. :thumbsup
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The word at training yesterday was the Collingwood game will be played in Canberra if we beat Freo.
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The word at training yesterday was the Collingwood game will be played in Canberra if we beat Freo.
Well that makes sense in the AFL scheme of things as Cwood haven't played at Geelong since 1999.
Why make 'em play there now. ::)
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play at Victoria Park! ROFLMFAO!
play in Canberra i think.
just so Canberra can get some AFL into the state.
what better then two "BIG" Victorian clubs.
and can be on Free-TV. :thumbsup
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Tigers, Pies could play on a Thursday
February 13, 2009
IF RICHMOND wins this week against Fremantle, its second-round NAB Cup match with Collingwood will probably have to be played on a Thursday night in order to find an available venue.
Melbourne Victory is likely to host the A-League grand final at Telstra Dome and the MCG is unavailable for football until late March due to the strong possibility that Victoria will also host the Sheffield Shield final.
With that soccer grand final staged on Saturday, February 28, and with a NAB Cup match already slated for the Friday night beforehand the AFL is short of a suitable venue.
The Age understands the match will be scheduled on Thursday, February 26.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/tigers-pies-could-play-on-a-thursday/2009/02/12/1234028205775.html
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this sounds so silly (playing thurs night). If the tigers win...why cant the game be played at TD on Sunday 1st of march?????
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this sounds so silly (playing thurs night). If the tigers win...why cant the game be played at TD on Sunday 1st of march?????
Because the prelim for whoever wins out of us and COllingwood (assuming we win) is slated for the next Friday which means we would only have a 5 day break.
A Thursday game wouldn't be so bad . . .
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this sounds so silly (playing thurs night). If the tigers win...why cant the game be played at TD on Sunday 1st of march?????
Because the prelim for whoever wins out of us and COllingwood (assuming we win) is slated for the next Friday which means we would only have a 5 day break.
A Thursday game wouldn't be so bad . . .
yes true....oh and just realised that we dont play the following weekend feb 20-22. So the thurs would be perfect :thumbsup
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Seriously WTF is the world coming to when that game for pooftaz takes precedence over AFL in Victoria, absolutely wrong dudes. ::)
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The word at training yesterday was the Collingwood game will be played in Canberra if we beat Freo.
If we lose against the Dockers then we will be playing in Canberra on Saturday 28th Feb at 4.00pm against either Carlton or North Melb....
I just read that in the pre-season footy record :thumbsup
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It looks like we'll be playing Collingwood on Thursday week.
February 26th, 7.40pm @ Telstra Dome
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Itll be interesting to see what team we put out for this clash. Quite afew players disappointed IMHO and some changes need to occur, I also think chances have to be given to some kids like Rance and Putt because they havent been given a go yet. Just a quick look at a side:
Newman Thursfield White
McMahon Rance Moore
Richardson Thomson Deledio
Morton Riewoldt Cousins
Brown Putt Edwards
Simmonds Tuck Foley
Graham Nahas Post Pattison Tambling McGuane Raines Vickery
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It looks like we'll be playing Collingwood on Thursday week.
February 26th, 7.40pm @ Telstra Dome
so a Thursday Night match ... ?
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Itll be interesting to see what team we put out for this clash. Quite afew players disappointed IMHO and some changes need to occur, I also think chances have to be given to some kids like Rance and Putt because they havent been given a go yet. Just a quick look at a side:
Newman Thursfield White
McMahon Rance Moore
Richardson Thomson Deledio
Morton Riewoldt Cousins
Brown Putt Edwards
Simmonds Tuck Foley
Graham Nahas Post Pattison Tambling McGuane Raines Vickery
Ramps, I've noted what you said about Hughes in other posts and understand where you are coming from. However I think we need to play Cleve for an extended period and see exactly what he is made of, a decision will need to be made on him in the near future but he needs an uninterrupted good shot at it IMO.
You cut my man Jackson out too :)
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It looks like we'll be playing Collingwood on Thursday week.
February 26th, 7.40pm @ Telstra Dome
so a Thursday Night match ... ?
Correct-a-mondo.
Cant play it at the G as there is another NAB cup game on Friday night, the A-League GF on Saturday and since whoever wins plays the next Friday night, Sunday is out of the question.
Thursday. :thumbsup
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what match is playing on the MCG on Friday 27th Feb?
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what match is playing on the MCG on Friday 27th Feb?
Nothing, but I don't think the players will want to play on a cricket pitch. ;)
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Itll be interesting to see what team we put out for this clash. Quite afew players disappointed IMHO and some changes need to occur, I also think chances have to be given to some kids like Rance and Putt because they havent been given a go yet. Just a quick look at a side:
Newman Thursfield White
McMahon Rance Moore
Richardson Thomson Deledio
Morton Riewoldt Cousins
Brown Putt Edwards
Simmonds Tuck Foley
Graham Nahas Post Pattison Tambling McGuane Raines Vickery
Perfect team for this one Ramps. :thumbsup
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Read a recent article on Edwards where TW said he will be playing more off the HB this year where his pace will be utilized....
so even though I like your team Ramps I have made the following changes -
Newman Thursfield McGuane
McMahon Edwards Moore
Richardson Thomson Deledio
Morton Riewoldt Cousins
Brown Putt Nahas
Simmonds Tuck Foley
Graham White Post Jackson Tambling Polo Raines Vickery
Stripes
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We are really going to have to lift 10 fold if we are going to beat the Pies.
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We are really going to have to lift 10 fold if we are going to beat the Pies.
I agree WA tiger .Pies looked sharp...we played one good quarter.
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I think the game will be closer than we think.
Pies played a W Coast side who will be as poor as they were last year and we despite how badly we played, beat a side whose mental frailties in last quarters were horribly exposed once again. So although winning form is technically good form the quality of the opposition leaves alot to be desired.
If Ben plays he will be fired up and so will we and it will create tremendous interest in the match. Ben would love to prove to those Skunks how good he is and we have not forgotten Eddie and Collingscums vehement veto to the Polak saga in December. There is plenty of spice in this one. Could be the biggest ever crowd for a second round NAB cup game ever.
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NAB Cup winner odds from Luxbet.com. We're into $7.
Geelong 5.75
Collingwood 6.25
Essendon 7.00
Richmond 7.00
Carlton 9.00
Brisbane 10
Hawthorn 12
Port Adelaide 13
Adelaide 16
North Melb 17
Melbourne 34
Sydney 41
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Cant play it at the G as there is another NAB cup game on Friday night, the A-League GF on Saturday and since whoever wins plays the next Friday night, Sunday is out of the question.
Apparently the AFL is saying they get preference over Melbourne Victory for Telstra Dome and want the Rich v Coll game on the Saturday night. I feel a shiitfight coming on. :o
ps. The MCG is unavailable due to Victoria hosting the final of the Sheffield Shield. ;)
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AFL, soccer stage turf war over Telstra Dome
Damian Barrett | February 17, 2009
FOOTBALL and soccer are in pitched battle over who can use Telstra Dome on Saturday week.
The AFL says it has the rights to the venue on February 28, and wants Collingwood to play Richmond, with Ben Cousins expected to make his Tigers debut, in a NAB Cup fixture.
But Football Federation Australia says it has set aside the stadium that night for the A-League grand final between Melbourne Victory and the winner of the Queensland Roar-Adelaide United preliminary final.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou told the Herald Sun his organisation had locked in the venue on that date when it released its NAB Cup fixture in October.
"At this stage we have a dilemma as it (the Collingwood-Richmond game) is due to fall on a Saturday night, which the Victory might be playing as well," Demetriou said.
"It could be Ben Cousins' first game, so there could be a dilemma there for all concerned. It is scheduled for Saturday night, Telstra Dome.
"It is in our fixture, and we put that NAB Cup draw out in October. So we will see what happens."
FFA chief executive Ben Buckley said he had received an assurance from Telstra Dome management that the A-League grand final would be played there on February 28.
"We have been advised from Telstra Dome that we can, and are able to play the match on that night," Buckley told the Herald Sun last night.
Asked if the AFL's stance was a sign of it going head-to-head against soccer, Demetriou said: "You're using those words.
"The MCG is not available. It's not about staking a claim, but we have got a booking priority (at Telstra Dome), under our agreement."
Told that FFA had announced Telstra Dome as the venue for the A-League grand final on that night, Demetriou said: "They are playing at a venue we normally play football at."
The MCG can not stage the NAB Cup match because drop-in wickets required for cricket would still be in place.
Telstra Dome chief executive Ian Collins could not be contacted, but the venue's communications manager Bill Lane said talks with the AFL were continuing.
"As far as we are concerned, we are still in communications with the AFL," Lane said.
"We would have thought staging the (NAB Cup) game on a Thursday night, or a Monday, would have been a reasonable outcome, and we think the matter can be resolved amicably."
Asked the stadium's preferred outcome on the standoff, Lane said: "We are aware the Football Federation has announced the game, the A-League grand final, will be played here on the Saturday, and we are happy with that announcement."
Telstra Dome management was convinced the AFL would move the Collingwood-Richmond match, but it is believed the AFL was asked by Channel 10 to keep it in its original timeslot.
Melbourne Victory's use of Telstra Dome has become part of legal action taken by the AFL against management of the Docklands venue.
Also crucial to that action was a decision by the venue management to name airline Etihad as the ground's new naming rights sponsor, because the AFL has Qantas as a major sponsor.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25065018-19742,00.html
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IMO this has nothing to do with Aussie rules vs Soccer directly. The AFL want better stadia deals for their clubs and are sick of subsidising other sports (in this case the Victory at the Dome) while a number of AFL clubs get screwed. The Victory average a crowd around 25k yet make a nice profit but if an AFL only got 25k they would make a loss or at best barely break even ::). I think the AFL will hope Ian Collins will cave in to their stadia deal demands by holding this gun to his head and then they'll relent and let the A-league GF go ahead on the Saturday night. If AFL plays Brisbane vs Essendon at Carrara on the Saturday night they can satisfy Ch 10's demands.
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Itll be interesting to see what team we put out for this clash. Quite afew players disappointed IMHO and some changes need to occur, I also think chances have to be given to some kids like Rance and Putt because they havent been given a go yet. Just a quick look at a side:
Newman Thursfield White
McMahon Rance Moore
Richardson Thomson Deledio
Morton Riewoldt Cousins
Brown Putt Edwards
Simmonds Tuck Foley
Graham Nahas Post Pattison Tambling McGuane Raines Vickery
Nice side Ramps.
It'll be interesting to see if Blingers plays if he isn't quite right to play a full game yet. Also will Cousins play if the game is played on the Thursday night rather than the Saturday night (?).
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If we can beat the pies the membership bandwagon is gonna be full steam ahead. The Tigers are on the march :thumbsup
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According to SEN there's apparently been a deal done on the venue and day with the A-league GF being played on the Saturday night. An announcement will be made soon.
Sportal saying it'll be either Thursday or Monday night with the Pies wanting Thursday "because it would then give them more time to prepare for a NAB Cup semi-final clash the following weekend in the event it wins."
http://sportal.com.au/football-news-display/dome-will-host-a-league-65200
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According to SEN there's apparently been a deal done on the venue and day with the A-league GF being played on the Saturday night. An announcement will be made soon.
Sportal saying it'll be either Thursday or Monday night with the Pies wanting Thursday "because it would then give them more time to prepare for a NAB Cup semi-final clash the following weekend in the event it wins."
http://sportal.com.au/football-news-display/dome-will-host-a-league-65200
Agree with the Pies. It has to be Thursday to allow the winning team a decent break between the following 2 games.
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Just mentioned on Channel 10 as confirmation
we are playing the Pies on Thursday Feb 26 at the Dome and the Victory is playing at the Dome on the Saturday.
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Just mentioned on Channel 10 as confirmation
we are playing the Pies on Thursday Feb 26 at the Dome and the Victory is playing at the Dome on the Saturday.
Cheers for that Tucky :). Commonsense prevails. Ch 10 will be showing the game on Thursday anyway.
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Commonsense prevails. Ch 10 will be showing the game on Thursday anyway.
yeah but I don't think it will be live....seeing the game starts at 7.10pm
Would say it is going to be on delay :banghead
But I'll be at the game so I suppose that doesn't matter :rollin :lol
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Thursday night for Tigers and Pies
By Matt Burgan 6:02 PM Tue 17 February, 2009
RICHMOND and Collingwood will meet in a second round NAB Cup clash on Thursday, February 26 after the AFL reached an agreement with Telstra Dome to move the fixture.
The Tigers and Magpies were set to play at Docklands on Saturday, February 28, but a clash of codes came when A-League soccer team Melbourne Victory secured a home grand final, scheduled for the same venue on the same day.
It forced the League to negotiate a solution with its commercial partners – including Telstra Dome and Channel Ten – which ultimately led to Tuesday afternoon's switch.
"We spoke to our clubs, who were able to change their arrangements to the Thursday night and also consulted with our broadcast partner in Channel Ten who were able to show the game on the Thursday night, ensuring that AFL fans would be able to watch the game on television if they couldn't get to the ground," AFL commercial and broadcasting officer Gillon McLachlan said.
"We thank them for their support."
The game is expected to be recruit Ben Cousins' first game in Tigers colours, with his last competitive match West Coast's 2007 qualifying final against Port Adelaide.
Bounce-down is set for 7.10pm AEDT.
http://afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=72230
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Start time is 7:10 pm
So that would make it delayed by a minimum of 1 hr 20 mins i would imagine.
Unfotuniately i can't get to this one, although i've been waiting to see a game since round 22 last year.
My son was asked to toss the coin for a Footy club V Cricket club Bush Fire Appeal 20/20 match 2 weeks ago.
Being for a good cause i couldn't imagine myself cancelling.
The Mighty Tigers will just have to win this one so my family and i can attend Round 3 versus Lions / Bombers.
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Start time is 7:10 pm
So that would make it delayed by a minimum of 1 hr 20 mins i would imagine.
I hope so, the little noisy ones will be in bed by then :thumbsup
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Start time is 7:10 pm
So that would make it delayed by a minimum of 1 hr 20 mins i would imagine.
Yep the Ch 10 telecast starts at 8.30pm.
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why couldn't the AFL have it on Friday Night?
last week they had Western v Essendon on Friday Night, then Melbourne v Adelaide on Saturday Night?
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why couldn't the AFL have it on Friday Night?
last week they had Western v Essendon on Friday Night, then Melbourne v Adelaide on Saturday Night?
Essendon vs Brisbane is on the Friday night and another game from the winners this weekend will be on the Sunday so it had to either the Thursday night or Monday night. Thursday was chosen so it gives us if we win a longer break before the semi-final.
Kel Moore was interviewed at training and he alluded to Cousins playing.
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Based on who was left in the main group at training today I would take a guess and say the following rough changes for the Collingwood game:
IN:
Cousins
Vickery
Thursfield
McMahon
JON
Johnson (maybe)
OUT:
Hughes
Silvester
Post
Collins
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The weather bureau is predicting it to be 34 degrees on Thursday :P.
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Based on who was left in the main group at training today I would take a guess and say the following rough changes for the Collingwood game:
IN:
Cousins
Vickery
Thursfield
McMahon
JON
Johnson (maybe)
OUT:
Hughes
Silvester
Post
Collins
I wouldnt drop Post, Id rather see Post play than JON.
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Based on who was left in the main group at training today I would take a guess and say the following rough changes for the Collingwood game:
IN:
Cousins
Vickery
Thursfield
McMahon
JON
Johnson (maybe)
OUT:
Hughes
Silvester
Post
Collins
I wouldnt drop Post, Id rather see Post play than JON.
dont' see hughes getting dropped.
talk is that terry says it suits richo more if he has a week on, week off, so we could see him rested this week.
hence i'd say post and hughes both ought to be playing.
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Ch 10 tonight are promoting this game as Ben Cousins return to AFL game.
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Based on who was left in the main group at training today I would take a guess and say the following rough changes for the Collingwood game:
IN:
Cousins
Vickery
Thursfield
McMahon
JON
Johnson (maybe)
OUT:
Hughes
Silvester
Post
Collins
I wouldnt drop Post, Id rather see Post play than JON.
dont' see hughes getting dropped.
talk is that terry says it suits richo more if he has a week on, week off, so we could see him rested this week.
hence i'd say post and hughes both ought to be playing.
I don't want Post dropped either but I was just passing on who was in which group at training. It seems Post is staying in the team for Thursday so it'll be good to see how he, Vickery and Rance all go. The Pies are taking the NAB Cup seriously.
Sounds like we'll have more cubs in the team this week. You could be right about Richo peggles. He only trained for a short while. The main thing is to have our best side fresh and ready to go for round 1 as much as it would be great to beat the Pies and boost memberships even more.
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Yep the Pies are going in with a full strength side and we are taking youth in, it will be interesting to see if the press call our side this week "strong" or "our best side" just because Cus is playing!!
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Id like to see Rance start on a wing. His a big unit but his a fit kid. Id play him there for the 1st quarter, hopefully he'll get the footy afew times and his confidence will grow. Giving kids confidence early is important for there development. Vickery should play up forward, hopefully he can kick a couple of goals and give himself some confidence as well.
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Id like to see Rance start on a wing. His a big unit but his a fit kid. Id play him there for the 1st quarter, hopefully he'll get the footy afew times and his confidence will grow. Giving kids confidence early is important for there development. Vickery should play up forward, hopefully he can kick a couple of goals and give himself some confidence as well.
The Collingwood rucks aren't much chop so they may give Ty some time in the ruck as well as up forward. He's got the leap and his tapwork is pretty good for an 18 year old.
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Hey fellas
Just wanted to confirm to you all that Post is not playing this thursday. Says it is due to rotating the likes of Rance and Ty into the team. Also Conners will be back in the team next week ;D
Source? ...Spoke to the boys at the family day ... unfortunantly no inside links ... :lol
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Ch 10 news showed David King watching Collingwood training yesterday.
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Id like to see Rance start on a wing. His a big unit but his a fit kid. Id play him there for the 1st quarter, hopefully he'll get the footy afew times and his confidence will grow. Giving kids confidence early is important for there development. Vickery should play up forward, hopefully he can kick a couple of goals and give himself some confidence as well.
Rance is filling out very nicely and has apparently put on a cm or 2 to be 194 according to a few die hard black ducks. Could be a big unit the a big engine. :cheers
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I was told today there's going to be 9 changes.
Cousins, Jordie, Sugar, Rance, JON, Thomson and Vickery I believe are seven of them. Gilligan could be another as he stayed behind at training to do some goalkicking. Not sure who the ninth one is. Maybe Kingy I'm guessing.
Out:
Hughes - in rehab today
Post - they were pleased with what they saw in Perth and know he can play.
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Out:
Hughes - in rehab today
Bugger
I haven't seen too much to get excited in over Hughes and have concerns over his ability to make it as a KPP forward, but I think it is important to find out by playing him as much as possible before the season proper starts.
In my mind I am starting to pencil Schulz in there.
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I was told today there's going to be 9 changes.
Cousins, Jordie, Sugar, Rance, JON, Thomson and Vickery I believe are seven of them. Gilligan could be another as he stayed behind at training to do some goalkicking. Not sure who the ninth one is. Maybe Kingy I'm guessing.
Out:
Hughes - in rehab today
Post - they were pleased with what they saw in Perth and know he can play.
i believe cleve has a groin strain, sufferd in the game against the dockers
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Thompson may be interesting.
I'll definitely be keeping a close eye on him
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I'm all for resting Richo for this game, there's no need for him to play.
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Thommo is definitely playing. Straight from the horses mouth. Hopefully his kicking has improved since he's left Port.
i believe cleve has a groin strain, sufferd in the game against the dockers
Ta blaisee. Hopefully the injury isn't too bad.
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Thommo is definitely playing. Straight from the horses mouth. Hopefully his kicking has improved since he's left Port.
You go to training mt. How has Thomson's kicking been at training??
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You go to training mt. How has Thomson's kicking been at training??
It's been okay at training Gracie. I guess I want to see how it is under game pressure against a real opposition as will happen to a degree on Thursday night (it's still only NAB Cup). Thommo was a bit of a clearance king in 2007 when he actually got a game for Port but his kicking was ordinary. He compensated for it by handballing a lot more than he kicked. I also know his role at Richmond will be as a protector/blocker for Foley and our top mids at stoppages just as Geelong players do for Ablett.
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The forecast for Thursday has come down a touch to 30 degrees.
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this is just another post by another confessed drug addict.....
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i believe cleve has a groin strain, sufferd in the game against the dockers
Bad luck but it's the beginning of what's going to be a very long final year for Cleve Hughes.
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Richo is no certainty to play according to Plough. They may rest him....
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Ben Cousins will start on ground
AAP | February 24, 2009 03:35pm
BEN Cousins will start on the field in Thursday night's match against Collingwood, but Matthew Richardson is no certainty.
Richmond coach Terry Wallace said Cousins will play more than half the round-two NAB Cup match at the Telstra Dome.
Cousins last played any form of AFL for West Coast in the 2007 finals before the league suspended him for bringing the game into disrepute.
The self-confessed drug addict has endured plenty of drama since then, but has had a solid pre-season with the Tigers.
"Others have been ahead of what he's done at this stage, so what you're looking for is him getting through safe and sound and that he gets a kick and starts to gain a bit of confidence," Wallace said.
"There's probably been enough razzamatazz - get out there and just play would probably be the best idea.
"I'd suggest we'd be more likely to just throw him out there and get on with playing.
"He'll play a reasonable amount of game time ... certainly I see 60-plus per cent."
When asked about Richmond's expectations of Cousins in his comeback match, Wallace said they would not be as great as the Brownlow Medallist's demands on himself.
Apart from the obvious attention Cousins will attract, another issue for Richmond on Thursday night will be managing the workload of their senior players.
Wallace admitted it is particularly important to keep star utility Matthew Richardson on a tight leash.
Richardson worked like a 20-year-old in the round-one win over Fremantle - the only problem is, he is nearly 34.
"You're never going to stop him, whether it's on the training track or game day, from what he does naturally," Wallace said.
"The answer to that ... is you've got to restrict his game time through that pre-season period.
"Last week, we had 1000 games worth of players out of our side, we won't be selecting our very, very best side for this week.
"We'd have probably 700 games still out this week in rotation."
Wallace added they would probably rest Richardson at some point during the pre-season.
It could happen against the Magpies, with former captain Kane Johnson and Jordan McMahon likely to come into the side.
Richmond trained on Tuesday morning and the two clubs will announce their 29-man squads on Wednesday
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25100344-19742,00.html
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Cousins to be kept safe and sound by Richmond
Martin Boulton | February 25, 2009
RICHMOND fans expecting a vintage Ben Cousins display against Collingwood could be disappointed, with coach Terry Wallace admitting he'll be happy to see his star recruit "safe and sound" in the rooms after the game.
The 30-year-old will play tomorrow night at Telstra Dome — his first match since being sacked by West Coast, deregistered by the league and then thrown an AFL lifeline by the Tigers with the last pick in the pre-season draft.
Wallace said the Brownlow medallist and recovering drug addict's first game had "created a lot of interest" but expectations from the coaching staff were modest.
"We're looking forward to it (and) he's looking forward to playing," Wallace said. "We haven't rushed his (pre-season) and that was going to be the case the whole way through. He's slowly built up his progress and he'll be pretty keen just to get out there and get a kick."
Wallace said the six-time All-Australian, who played 238 games with West Coast, would get about 60 per cent of ground time against the Magpies.
"He'll play a reasonable amount of game time depending on how the game's going. It's his first genuine hit-out … so what you're looking for is him getting through safe and sound and that he gets a kick and starts to gain a bit of confidence.
"His expectations on himself will be stronger than ours."
Wallace said there was already "enough razzamatazz" without starting Cousins on the bench and he would probably make his Tigers debut on the ground.
"We'll be more likely to throw him out there and let him get on with playing."
Former captain Kane Johnson and Jordan McMahon are expected to play their first pre-season games, with Wallace planning to rotate players through the squad.
"We won't be selecting our very best side for this week's game," he said. "It is a NAB (Cup) round-two game and a few of the boys who played in round one won't play round two … you need to develop a few of your younger boys."
He said the large crowd expected was "even more reason" to pick young players who can "learn and understand what the game is about". More than 7500 tickets have been pre-sold for the match.
Wallace said midfielder Mark Coughlan was still "a couple of weeks" off playing following surgery to repair a slightly torn meniscus in his right knee. Trent Cotchin (ankle) has not resumed full training.
"If he's not ready by round one (and) we're reliant on an 18-year-old to be a key player in our line-up this early then we're kidding ourselves," Wallace said. "We've got to get him right and make sure he's 100 per cent."
A countdown clock will be used at the stadium for Thursday's match, which has not been met with enthusiasm from Channel 10.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/cousins-to-be-kept-safe-and-sound/2009/02/24/1235237650123.html
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Terry Wallace says zip the Ben Cousins razzamatazz
Mark Robinson | February 25, 2009
TERRY Wallace, and just about everyone else, is jack of the "razzamatazz" that is Ben Cousins. The time has come to stop chasing Cousins and, instead, watch Cousins chase the ball.
It's why Wallace will start Cousins tomorrow night against Collingwood.
And because it is Cousins, it's why there were 15 reporters - radio, TV, newspaper and net - and five cameras to record Wallace reveal exactly that at Victoria Park yesterday.
Ben is playing, he said.
Ben will start, he said.
Ben is not the only player at Richmond, he wanted to say.
"I think there's been enough razzamatazz, I think probably get out there and just play would be the best idea," the Tigers coach said.
"Look, we haven't finalised our side yet, we've got to get through training today before we do that, but I'd suggest that we'd be more likely to just throw him out there and let him get on with playing.
"He'll play a reasonable amount of game time."
How much game time will be determined by the run of the game, and how much Wallace wants to experiment with his younger players in the middle.
A fair estimate would be 70 per cent, which would satisfy Cousins, Wallace and the manically optimistic Tigers fans.
If 9000 fans will turn up to Richmond's family day, at least three times that will turn up tomorrow night.
Throw in the mighty Maggies and 45,000-50,000 is not out of the question.
Cousins will be nervous, no doubt.
Just how much we'll never know because he's not talking to any media until his doco is sold and on the box.
When Wallace was asked how Cousins was feeling, he said: "You'd have to ask him that question."
Only if we could. Maybe, fingers crossed, Benny might open up after the game.
As it is, Wallace was low-key yesterday.
"We haven't rushed him, we've slowly built up the progress over a period of time and so obviously, first game, I think he would be pretty keen to get out there and get a kick."
His expectations for Cousins were "not a lot".
"His expectations will be stronger than what ours are," he said.
"The game is a practice game, (we're) getting ready for Round 1.
"It's his first genuine hit out and others are ahead of what he's done to this stage.
"What you're looking to is him getting through safe and sound, gets a kick and starts to gain a bit of confidence."
Confidence is not Cousins' alone.
The Tigers beat Fremantle on the road in the first week, which is pleasing whether its NAB, practice match or the season proper, and a win over Collingwood tomorrow night will stoke the fans' faith even more - if that's possible.
It's unclear if Matthew Richardson will play - he will be named in the 29-man squad - but mop-top first-rounder Tyrone Vickery and promising defender Alex Rance will, as is likely the former skipper, Kane Johnson and running defender Jordan McMahon.
Vickery looks the athlete. He stood next to ruck coach Damian Monkhorst yesterday and was two inches taller and perhaps 20kg lighter.
He'll play mainly forward and maybe get a burst in the ruck.
"Last week we had a thousand games worth of players out of our side, we won't be selecting our very, very best side for this game," Wallace said.
"A few of the boys who played in Round 1 won't play in Round 2."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25103013-19742,00.html
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We want the win, says Jackson
richmondfc.com.au
By Jason Phelan
4:41 PM Wed 25 February, 2009
DANIEL Jackson knows pre-season form can often count for little in the middle of winter, but the Richmond tagger is still keen to register a win in Thursday night's NAB Cup match against Collingwood.
Competition for spots, as well as a desire to build some momentum within the club, should ensure the Tigers come out roaring against a traditional rival.
"It is only late February … but having such a young group everyone wants to have a win and go out and make a name for themselves," Jackson said on Wednesday.
"Coming off last year [when we] had a good second half, we want to just keep that going … [and] I think any game when its Richmond-Collingwood is always going to be a big game."
The match is likely to be played in front of a large crowd for this time of year with many of the Tiger faithful expected to turn out to see the wraps come off prized recruit Ben Cousins, but Jackson said there would be plenty of other players worth watching.
"Alex Rance is also debuting and you probably won't see him or Tyrone [Vickery] on the front or back cover [of the paper] with Ben being there, but they're both very good players”, he said.
"We've had such a good summer in regards to keeping blokes injury-free that we've had to have a rotation system. It will still be a very competitive side and obviously all the guys will have a real crack."
Adam Thomson will also play his first game since crossing from the Port Adelaide in the off-season with Kane Johnson, Will Thursfield and Jordan McMahon among those taking the field for the first time this campaign.
Cousins' first appearance in the yellow and black has given the match a prominence rarely afforded to pre-season hit-outs, but Jackson said the 30-year-old had remained unaffected by the hype.
"I think he takes everything in his stride," he said.
"He's been doing it for so many years and he never looks like he's out of his comfort zone. He epitomises how you should train, he's been such an asset to have out on the track, and it going to be seen by a greater audience tomorrow night how he's actually had a great impact on us."
The match kicks off at 7:10 pm AEDT at Telstra Dome.
http://afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/72553/default.aspx
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Young talent ready for Pies v Tigers clash
Matt Windley | February 26, 2009
IF IT'S possible to somehow look away from the Ben Cousins frenzy, then some pre-season gold can be found at Telstra Dome tonight.
This is not your everyday late-February encounter when you cast your eye down the playing lists.
Both Richmond and Collingwood have left little in reserve for this second-round NAB Cup clash.
The Tigers are rolling out the top-10 placegetters in last year's best-and-fairest award, with the Pies just falling slightly behind with nine.
Some much-hyped youngsters will also be on display for the first time.
The Tigers are unveiling first-round draft pick Tyrone Vickery and defender Alex Rance, while Collingwood has included four highly regarded debutants.
Steele Sidebottom, Dayne Beams, Brent Macaffer and Jaxson Barham, son of club great Ricky, have been named in the Pies 29-man squad.
Former Port Adelaide midfielder Adam Thomson is expected to make his first Richmond appearance.
While there is no bigger name than Cousins, the other Richmond "ins" are fairly handy, with former skipper Kane Johnson, half-back Jordan McMahon also stepping out for the first time this year.
Tigers midfielder Daniel Jackson said the coaching staff had warned the players about being over-hyped for what looms as a finals-like atmosphere at Telstra Dome.
"I think any game when it's Richmond and Collingwood is always a big game," Jackson said.
"It is only late February though and we've addressed that, but having such a young group everyone wants to get out there and win and make a name for themselves."
The introduction of some exciting young talent was what had the Pies excited, key forward Travis Cloke said.
"Beamsy's got the full-length tattoo like Dane Swan and Sidebottom's a very smiley, happy young kid," Cloke said.
"They are all very unusual players, all different. We're looking forward to seeing them out in the game, just to see what they do."
Like everyone, Cloke couldn't hide away completely from the topic of Cousins.
"I think it's such a great honour for Ben to be able to come back from where he has been the last few years," he said.
"It's actually been a bit different (the lead-up), especially playing for Collingwood (the attention is) normally always on us."
Cloke, who turns 22 next Thursday, will be the most experienced tall in the Magpies' forward structure tonight.
Last year's leading goalkicker Paul Medhurst (foot hot spot), Sean Rusling and Anthony Rocca are all absent.
Magpies football manager Geoff Walsh said Medhurst trained strongly yesterday and was close to a return, though.
"I'd expect that our next game, wherever that may be, that Paul would be very close to knocking on the door and playing," Walsh said.
"We did have a number of players who played reasonably well first round, so there's no sense rushing Paul back given that he's had an interrupted summer."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25107545-19742,00.html
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Winning is all Richmond fans really want
Cheryl Critchley | February 26, 2009
BRING it on! Richmond and Collingwood fans can't wait for tonight's big clash of the traditional rivals at Telstra Dome.
Supporters on both sides want fallen Eagle Ben Cousins to do well in his first game for the Tigers.
Richmond and Collingwood both began their NAB Cup campaigns in Perth, so tonight is the first chance for most fans to see their teams in the flesh.
Not to mention the Cousins show, which starts at 7.10pm.
Fans have been urged to book tickets or arrive early to avoid a crush. Last night 17,000 tickets had been sold.
Collingwood cheer squad member Tracey Cox, 44, was happy Cousins received a second chance with the Tigers after battling drug abuse.
But she hopes his first game back is not his best.
"It's great that they've given him the opportunity," she said. "Let him prove himself. He looks great. He looks the best I've ever seen him. But I still want to beat them."
Ms Cox, whose daughter Cheyanne, 11, also loves the Pies, said the Magpie cheer squad was raring to go after a controversial clean-out.
Fifty of its 200 members were purged this year, and 70 did not reapply.
"It's all settled down," she said. "The cheer squad's more about family. Everyone's really excited about the new start.
"We want to be the best cheer squad in the league."
Richmond cheer squad's Nikki Verso, 33, is rapt to have Cousins in black and yellow.
"If it helps Richmond it's great," she said. "Everybody deserves a second chance. I just want the season to start . . . and let's make the eight."
Tiger cheer squad leader Gerard Egan was excited, but insisted Cousins was just one player. "I'm looking forward to just getting out there and watching the team again. My main concern is for the rest of the team," he said.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25107425-2862,00.html
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It'd be nice to win but the main thing for me is everyone gets through the game tonight without any injuries :pray and to watch how the newbies go (especially Vickery).
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Finally, the circus is ready to roll onto football's centre stage
Michael Gleeson | February 26, 2009
WHEN Ben Cousins arrived at Punt Road, Daniel Jackson, a tagger, asked the star what it was about taggers that annoyed him most, and therefore what he could do to better unsettle opponents.
Cousins spoke of the standard niggling, grappling behaviours. He might better have suggested he not act like other taggers but like some media. That would annoy him more.
The carnival that is the footballing rebirth of Ben Cousins continues tonight when he actually plays in a match somewhat akin to that which he left almost forever nearly two years ago.
Cousins plays Collingwood in the NAB Cup match at Telstra Dome in the game shifted out of concession to soccer's A-League grand final. Oh, and Richmond's also playing.
But it is not about the Tigers tonight, it is about Cousins. He and his club might not want it that way, but that is how it is. They knew that when they took him but hope that after tonight's game, and more likely after round one, it becomes less about Cousins and more about Richmond.
So after acute interest in how he fared in an intra-club match without a genuine opponent, interest will be keener in how he goes playing another side. And who plays on him.
Who that will be partly depends on where he starts. And he is expected to start the game.
Cousins will play his half-forward/midfield role and would probably be expected to start forward rather than in the square. If he did, Marty Clarke, Collingwood's best endurance runner, would likely get the task. A quiet fellow, Cousins would at least likely be saved from verbal sprays on one side of the boundary line.
When Cousins goes on the ball Clarke might go with him, though more likely Ryan Cook, Collingwood's new preferred tagger, could shift onto him.
Jackson said the pleasure of tonight was that the football world would see what Richmond players and officials had witnessed for several months. Of course, Cousins has hardly been ignored, a point that riled the young Tiger and had him anxious to defend his new teammate.
"I think it is fair to say what happened on the weekend was crossing the lines of decency," Jackson said, referring to a newspaper report and photographs of Cousins moving into a new house and observations of what he wore inside his house. The matter was taken up by the AFL Players Association with the newspaper.
"I am not talking from experience — it has not happened to me — but to have journos floating around in front of his house, I think a lot of the people out there … would agree it was a little bit too much. But we get this week out of the way and move forward. He is a fantastic addition to our side. He has taught us all a lot over the summer."
Apart from Cousins, the game is notable for the fact that Tyrone Vickery and Alex Rance will play their first games. For the Magpies, Steele Sidebottom, Dayne Beams, Brent Macaffer and Jaxson Barham appear for the first time.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/circus-is-ready-to-roll/2009/02/25/1235237738725.html
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Preview: Collingwood v Richmond
afl.com.au
By Nathan Schmook Thu 26 February, 2009
PRE-SEASON FORM GUIDE
Collingwood: The Magpies are through to the quarter-finals for the first time since 2006. Heavy losses to Adelaide (81 points) and North Melbourne (51) have sent them packing in the first round in recent years. However, this campaign was started in the best possible fashion – a strong Collingwood outfit smashed West Coast by 62 points at Subiaco Oval.
Richmond: The Tigers have also broken a recent NAB Cup drought, getting past the first round with a nail-biting three-point win over Fremantle at Subiaco. Losses to St Kilda (40 points), Geelong (43) and Hawthorn (10) have seen Richmond make a first-round exit the past three years.
PREPARATION
Collingwood: There's no doubt Collingwood was in great early-season shape against West Coast after three gruelling intra-club matches to kick off its campaign. Alan Didak and Heath Shaw should get the chance to back up their stunning returns in Perth, while Scott Pendlebury and Tarkyn Lockyer showed they are well and truly ready for the season proper.
Richmond: The Tigers probably got a better preparation than they bargained for when they travelled to Perth a fortnight ago. The victory brought out the best in Matthew Richardson, Nathan Foley and Brett Deledio – all top performers over the pre-season. And with Richardson up the ground, Jack Riewoldt and Nathan Brown made telling contributions on the scoreboard. High-profile recruit Ben Cousins was never going to play that game but he watched from the stands – adding to the build-up for this one.
PLAYERS TO WATCH
Collingwood:
Leon Davis: Dangerous wherever he went against West Coast, Davis read the ruckmen's work better than anyone (seven clearances) and pushed forward for two goals.
Scott Pendlebury: It's hard to believe it's so early in the year when you watch this gun midfielder play football. Of his 31 possessions against West Coast, Pendlebury missed the target just twice in a supreme performance.
Nick Maxwell: The great bump debate isn't over, but Maxwell is free to captain the Pies after escaping a four-week ban. His physical approach is an integral part of his leadership and he won't be discouraged from playing that way against the Tigers.
Richmond:
Ben Cousins: It seems like the champion midfielder's every step has been watched since his time expired at West Coast. Finally football fans can watch the Brownlow Medallist doing what he does best on the football field.
Daniel Jackson: Flying under the radar thanks to some of his big-name midfield teammates, Jackson managed 29 possessions against Fremantle while keeping an eye on NAB AFL Rising Star Rhys Palmer.
Adam Thomson: Port Adelaide fans were disappointed to lose this former first-round draft pick, but greater opportunities led the inside midfielder to Tigerland. It will be interesting to see what he offers in this clash with Collingwood and beyond.
SUMMARY
Both sides have named strong squads and Jackson says the Tigers are set on hitting round one in good touch. They'll run out against the Pies without Trent Cotchin and Kayne Pettifer, while Collingwood is still missing Anthony Rocca (ankle) and Paul Medhurst (foot). Collingwood's pre-season form coupled with the health of its list suggests a semi-final appearance against either Essendon or the Brisbane Lions. However, expect the Tigers to push the Pies on emotion alone as Cousins resumes his career.
PREDICTION
Collingwood by 15 points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/72565/default.aspx
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So we are missing Kayne Pettifer.....oh no what will we do!!!!lol
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Well good luck Tiges, I won't be back on this site until tomorrow night as I will see the game at 9pm WST on Fox and will only catch the first half and tape the rest. Well thats what I am hoping, bet I watch it all though.
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Pretty pleased with Ben's first half! Richo...what are you doing? I'm liking the look of Thompson and Vickery(As it should be for a young ruckman) still needs plenty of work. Pretty happy with first half...... i have a suggestion for the rules committee, lets ban the the flood in pre-season games. This is perhaps the most exciting build up ever to a pre season game and it is being ruined by a flood! (and some suspect skills)
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Tonight we werent flash but we had our opportunities in the 3rd quarter and we didnt take them. Adam Thomson will be good for us, Rance and Vickery will be long term players IMHO. Both had very good moments in the game. Its disappointing we lost but we tonight we found some new players and thats good.
Now why we lost, we lost because we turnover the footy and our disposal by hand and foot is below sides like collingwood, for me, its not our key mids that are the problem, nor the kpp, our problem is the flanker type players we have. They turnover the footy to much and it kills us. We also need to find a key forward. Key forwards and a couple of mids who can kick the footy (taking into account that Cotchin was missing) to play in flanker roles would help our cause. You cant really have all of Jackson, White, Edwards, Tambling etc etc in the same side. Anyway thats just my opinion.
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Shocking game.
Same old Richmond with such poor disposal. WTF have we got the same problems every f.uckin year.
Tackle count someone??
Handball Count someone?
Tambling and Johnson might as well head down Commercial Road. They both got better chance of scoring down there.
Johnson 10 metres out................result straight into the man
Tambling.......Ooh my godness if this guy isn't the next Andrew Krackour(the player) then i am not here right now.
Not only is he a waste of space but he is not even in our best 30.
Bag bowden all you like but Bowden played a big part in 3 wins last year, Tambling is just a number just like Krackour was. Rubbish!!
The only reason why TW keeps playing him is to save face to the public about how terribly wrong he got this pick.
Vickery and Thompson good. The former will be some player i reckon.
Hislop rubbish
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Whats with the man crush every commentator has for Raines? Are we watching the same bloke? They showed highlights at half time but cut away before it reached its target each time...because he MISSED his target each time. Its all well and good to look flashy, but stuff me...HIT A TARGET!
Also, can we stop the handball to stationary targets? There are signs of improvement, and straight kicking would have helped, but there is still plenty of work to do before round 1.
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Adam Thomson will be good for us, Rance and Vickery will be long term players IMHO.
Agree Ramps.
You've been pushing Thompson since we traded for him and you can count me in now.
Vickery should get a few games this year.
Hislop I thought struggled, Raines got a lot of it, but did nothing with it. Raines has got an awful problem for an AFL footballer, he can't kick a drop punt on the run, his handballing is below par also, it drops short too often, I love his endeavor Raines but his poor disposal is selling his team mates down the river.
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ooh yeah and dont get me started on Raines.
Ooh dear me if we are relying on fools like this to take us to the next level then we are in real strife
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Tambling.......Ooh my godness if this guy isn't the next Andrew Krackour(the player) then i am not here right now.
Bag bowden all you like but Bowden played a big part in 3 wins last year, Tambling is just a number just like Krackour was. Rubbish!!
I thought Tambling was in our best tonight. But then again I was at the game, sounds like you watched it on telly Daniel. His tackling was great, his workload is what earned him his 'cheap' stats, and he did more than his fair share of the hard work tonight, in fact when he got caught with it by Maxwell at CHB in the 3rd quarter, did people actually realise that 1) Tambling was on his 3rd or 4th effort for that passage of play and 2) He was outnumbered by about 5/1 and even after he trapped the ball in after a couple of efforts there was still no one there to help.
About Bowden, yes I thought at times tonight that we could have used his poise, but on second thoughts, would he have really helped us with our main problem tonight, which was overusing the ball and getting stuck on a HBF with it? Can Bowden help us with that or will he make the problem worse?
One things for sure our kicking needs to improve and he is one of the best at the club, so er what I think I'm saying is that he will be welcomed back with open arms into the side.
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Tambling.......Ooh my godness if this guy isn't the next Andrew Krackour(the player) then i am not here right now.
Bag bowden all you like but Bowden played a big part in 3 wins last year, Tambling is just a number just like Krackour was. Rubbish!!
I thought Tambling was in our best tonight. But then again I was at the game, sounds like you watched it on telly Daniel. His tackling was great, his workload is what earned him his 'cheap' stats, and he did more than his fair share of the hard work tonight, in fact when he got caught with it by Maxwell at CHB in the 3rd quarter, did people actually realise that 1) Tambling was on his 3rd or 4th effort for that passage of play and 2) He was outnumbered by about 5/1 and even after he trapped the ball in after a couple of efforts there was still no one there to help.
About Bowden, yes I thought at times tonight that we could have used his poise, but on second thoughts, would he have really helped us with our main problem tonight, which was overusing the ball and getting stuck on a HBF with it? Can Bowden help us with that or will he make the problem worse?
One things for sure our kicking needs to improve and he is one of the best at the club, so er what I think I'm saying is that he will be welcomed back with open arms into the side.
To answer your question i haven't missed a game in 4 years in melbourne so yes i was at the game.
Tambling is a nothing player, never has been and never will be.He simply does not have the talent. 35 metres out and WTF is with him not having a shot.
It really is a disgrace how we can never lead the tackle count in any game we play. I blame the coaching stuff for that. A big emphasis should be placed on that in our defensive 50 but its not and teams just run out with ease.
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Yes I wondered why Tambling didn't go for the shot. Lack of confidence there.
Too many handballs and not enough tackles.
Missed shots cost us as well. Riewoldt needs to practise his kicking. Too late to expect anything else from Richo. Thought Vickery did well. We were competitive till the last quarter.
Is it true Cousins got some knock to the head? Didn't see it on the tv but they said they wanted to interview him after the game but couldn't because of the AFL ruling on head injuries.
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To answer your question i haven't missed a game in 4 years in melbourne so yes i was at the game.
Fair enough I just thought you would've seen his work off the ball if you were at the game.
Obviously he should have had that shot from 35, that was terrible.
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Can't agree with you about Nahas ramps, hasn't shown enough yet, nice centring ball in the first and showed nice dash a couple of times, but there are other smalls ahead of him IMO, even if they have got less 'tricks' in the bag.
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had some mates over from WA for the match (new members), they reckon Ben looked a million $$, he just needs more match practice, not too concerned it is the mickey mouse cup.
impressed with Rance.
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the biggest problem with our club in this game and most games i have seen is our tackling.
It is terrible. I just dont get why the coaching staff do something in this area. we are always bottom in this stat every stuffin year.
Every team just runs it out of defence because they know our tackles do NOT stick. useless
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We supposedly have done tackling training with the Melbourne Storm but you'd never know.
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Wow, you would swear the sky is falling. :help It was a NAB cup game but I'd expect nothing less from some slags on here. ::)
We kicked awfully and when the pies gained momentum after plenty of our points, they couldn't miss.
Get a grip, Chicken Littles. It's the preseason.
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Too many turnovers, :banghead
Too many kicks/handballs falling short of the target, :banghead
Too much indecision, :banghead
Too many kicks straight to the player on the mark. :banghead
Too many behinds, :banghead
Too many passengers, :banghead
Too much like the Tigers of early 2008, :banghead
cuz isn't the only one with a sore head
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Wow, you would swear the sky is falling. :help It was a NAB cup game but I'd expect nothing less from some slags on here. ::)
We kicked awfully and when the pies gained momentum after plenty of our points, they couldn't miss.
Get a grip, Chicken Littles. It's the preseason.
Couldn't give a rats about the result...just amused by the commentary team gushing over Raines as he committed turnover after turnover. If we'd kicked straight we were up by 6 or 7 goals, not 6 points...There was improvement, and there are a few more weeks to fine tune too. :gotigers
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Wow, you would swear the sky is falling. :help It was a NAB cup game but I'd expect nothing less from some slags on here. ::)
We kicked awfully and when the pies gained momentum after plenty of our points, they couldn't miss.
Get a grip, Chicken Littles. It's the preseason.
Couldn't give a rats about the result...just amused by the commentary team gushing over Raines as he committed turnover after turnover. If we'd kicked straight we were up by 6 or 7 goals, not 6 points...There was improvement, and there are a few more weeks to fine tune too. :gotigers
I've got no problem with people analysing individual players performances, but those lamenting the entire team as basically useless and in a practise game we had a stranglehold for at least half the game but couldn't kick straight for the life us and it well and truly bit us on the arse is very bloody rich.
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Repeat of last year's GF and our centenary game against Carlton as far as the scoreboard. We dominated play from midway through the first to midway of the third quarters but couldn't kick bloody straight :banghead. When you have the momentum you need to put it on the scoreboard otherwise you pay when the momentum switches. IIRC Jack missed 3 set shots, Morton 2, Richo 2 and we missed a couple of others that should've been gimmes at this level. Bloody pathetic goalkicking to be honest ::) :banghead.
I thought when the game was alive our defence and play defensive side of the centre was very good for this time of the year. It must have been frustrating for them working their guts out all game only for the forwards to screw it up.
Our centre square pretty much spanked Collingwood when we were on top up until midway through the 3rd. Still got Tucky, Cotch and hopefully Cogs to add to it.
Thankfully only a NAB Cup so no damage done come round 1. The margin is of no concern as we switched off once it got to 20 points.
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Is it true Cousins got some knock to the head? Didn't see it on the tv but they said they wanted to interview him after the game but couldn't because of the AFL ruling on head injuries.
Yep he did Julz. A mild concussion. They'll rest Cuz next week anyway.
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Shocking game.
Same old Richmond with such poor disposal. WTF have we got the same problems every effin year.
Tackle count someone??
Handball Count someone?
Tambling and Johnson might as well head down Commercial Road. They both got better chance of scoring down there.
Johnson 10 metres out................result straight into the man
Tambling.......Ooh my godness if this guy isn't the next Andrew Krackour(the player) then i am not here right now.
Not only is he a waste of space but he is not even in our best 30.
Bag bowden all you like but Bowden played a big part in 3 wins last year, Tambling is just a number just like Krackour was. Rubbish!!
The only reason why TW keeps playing him is to save face to the public about how terribly wrong he got this pick.
Vickery and Thompson good. The former will be some player i reckon.
Hislop rubbish
Tackle count down due to our dominant possesion count
Poor skills/decision making due to the flood
Collingwood=full strength Richmond= rested players
NAB = practice game
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Pics from the game:
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Herald-Sun (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/gallery/0,22010,5037630-5006020,00.html)
The Age (http://www.realfooty.com.au/photogallery/2009/02/26/1235237829598.html?page=3)
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NAB = practice game
SO true... a glorified practice game at a decent venue = NAB cup
Who cares about the result
I went wanting to see some of the newbies and I got that.
Liked Vickery, impressed with thompson, thought Hislop tried hard was OK with his defensive pressure in the fwd 50. Thought Rance was a overawed in the first qtr and a bit but settled down (agree with Ramps long term prospect). And some bloke called Cousins wasn't too bad either.
Look there were some players who disappointed but that's the nature of the game
You kick 5 goals 15 behinds - you aint gonna win many games of footy IMHO.
We were right in it until the late in the 3rd qtr... final qtr was disappointing but he the world is still turning and the real stuff is still a month away.... round 1 is what matters ....REALLY IT IS
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Your right MT rnd 1 is what matters - As a whole we were level in the match to the end and that is at the minimum what I wanted.
Skunks are gunna be a hard team to beat this year and Blingers better extract the digit.
MELTDOWN
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Wow, you would swear the sky is falling. :help It was a NAB cup game but I'd expect nothing less from some slags on here. ::)
We kicked awfully and when the pies gained momentum after plenty of our points, they couldn't miss.
Get a grip, Chicken Littles. It's the preseason.
Thing is TA its the same mistakes, same culprits, same excuses every year ie. Its only pre season, but even me, the eternal optimist is geeting a little sick of it.
Why cant we come out one year and start laying tackles, hitting targets, kicking majors, finding space, like other clubs do. We all are so confident until our team hits the ground :banghead
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Wow, you would swear the sky is falling. :help It was a NAB cup game but I'd expect nothing less from some slags on here. ::)
We kicked awfully and when the pies gained momentum after plenty of our points, they couldn't miss.
Get a grip, Chicken Littles. It's the preseason.
Thing is TA its the same mistakes, same culprits, same excuses every year ie. Its only pre season, but even me, the eternal optimist is geeting a little sick of it.
Why cant we come out one year and start laying tackles, hitting targets, kicking majors, finding space, like other clubs do. We all are so confident until our team hits the ground :banghead
Now thats a very sensible comment.
Every year we are the bottom 2 in the tackle count and its unnacceptable. We are a very weak side on the field. Opposition players seem to break our tackles with ease.
Yes its a practice match but outside of Rance, Thompson, Cuz and Vickery i saw nothing pleasing about Tambling and Edwards amongst others, missing targets from 15 metres out. Johnson missing a goal from 15 metres out. Raines running around in circles as per usual.
Different year same old players doing the same old things.
So many Pies players who have been in the system for a few years, were hitting those targets.
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I watched the game and in the beginning I thought we were in for a chance at it. As the game progressed I though that we had even less of a chance to win and in the end we were pumbled.
I thought that right throught the match the pie's were able to move the ball out of the defence to easy while we struggles to get get it out of their forward line.
The ball was passed to many time to a player in a worse position then the ball carier was and this ended up in us losing contriol of the ball all night.
I know we will improve and this is one thing to look forwards to this season. And we had some good players that are showing they are ready to make the next step fully.
We will lose a few games, but I still will place us in the top 8.
I really like Jackson's game last night followed by Raines and Deledio. We are going places this year. we might have a few bumps in the road but it was encouraging to see the youger ones standing up.
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In the end the mustard was not cut. We lost the knife !
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Very good point, but at lease us in the country go to see some of our new lads on the feild for the forst time.
I enjoyed the game for that part of it.
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Thing is TA its the same mistakes, same culprits, same excuses every year ie. Its only pre season, but even me, the eternal optimist is geeting a little sick of it.
Why cant we come out one year and start laying tackles, hitting targets, kicking majors, finding space, like other clubs do. We all are so confident until our team hits the ground :banghead
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fair comment
and to add to it sure we will impove before Rd 1 but so will the other teams
so reality is we are behind other teams that we need to beat
if we are to show that we are a better team than last season then we need to win and win well
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History lesson
Last year we lost to St Kilda in the Nab cup by 40+ points.When we played them in the season proper there wasn't a bees d*ck in it.
I dont think anyone should be pressing the PANIC BUTTON just yet.
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I don't think anyone has hit the panic button yet. What we are all worried about is the crappy way the ball was delivered thoughout the match. Well that is what I am worried about as I would have thought this would have been done and dusted by this time.
And the bad desicion's that were made thoughout the match to. And this was by close to all players.
I think we all were hoping to see us being able to do a decent job but that wasn't so last night.
So there is haeps of work to do before we get to the season proper.
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Collingwood were pretty scrappy at times too and they had 3 full pre-season practise matches where we only had the one. I find it quite funny how many Chicken Little types there are around at this time of the year.
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It really is a disgrace how we can never lead the tackle count in any game we play. I blame the coaching stuff for that. A big emphasis should be placed on that in our defensive 50 but its not and teams just run out with ease.
Maybe you could assist by going down to training and volunteering to be a tackle bag.
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I thought Tambling was in our best tonight. But then again I was at the game, sounds like you watched it on telly Daniel. His tackling was great, his workload is what earned him his 'cheap' stats, and he did more than his fair share of the hard work tonight, in fact when he got caught with it by Maxwell at CHB in the 3rd quarter, did people actually realise that 1) Tambling was on his 3rd or 4th effort for that passage of play and 2) He was outnumbered by about 5/1 and even after he trapped the ball in after a couple of efforts there was still no one there to help.
Glad to hear that DC, I watched it on TV and I was disspaointed with Richie, however as you said you do miss a lot on TV :thumbsup.
One incident in the 3rd quarter had me riled though where it appeared he shirked a contest. If I remember correctly there was also an incident last year were a similar sort of thing happened. However he could have been wrong footed or off balance I just wouldn't like to see that thing happen too regularly.
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Collingwood 4.2 (26) 5.4 (34) 9.5 (59) 14.10 (94)
Richmond 2.5 (17) 3.9 (27) 5.12 (42) 5.15 (45)
Goals: Richardson, Vickery, White, Brown, Newman
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Can't say I am too dissapointed with the game.
Our kicking was woeful and over the whole of last season was fairly good overall I thought. I wouldn't expect this to be a problem in the season proper.
We got shown a football lesson in tackling and defensive pressure by the Skunks. As has been noted this is one of the areas we lack in and I'm sure remedial steps are being taken inside RFC.
Good to see some of the newbies and very impressed with Rance and pleased with Cuz's game. Also with Foley I think he will benefit so much by the other midfield talent coming along in our side this year.
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Sloppy skills aside I thought we looked in control for atleast half the game.Terrible kicking for goal from set shots cost us badly.We could of been 20 points up halfway in the third.Disappointing Collingwood kicked the last 7 or 8 goals and it became a blow out.
Overall two very scrappy performances by Richmond in the pre season but who wants to be "March Premiers" anyway. :gotigers
Well done Benny.....Cant wait to see you with afew more games under your belt :clapping
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Both teams found it hard to break through the zones which caused much of the scappy play and poor decision making throughout the game. Around the packs and in congestion we were the superior team but unfortunately they were better when moving the ball into their F50. They seemed to have more forward options and space to kick around the 50m arc.
Our biggest problem was that we struggled to first move the ball into and then find space in the area between the center square and the F50 arc. This is why we resorted to kicking it long to a contest so frequently and had problems spotting up a leading forward. On many occasions Vickery made an excellent lead but we could not kick it to him because of their zone or the pressure that was being placed on the ball carrier. Collingwood had more experienced players of size to break through and shepherd there way into this area which allowed them to find lead-up targets more.
If anything we should have followed the Pies lead and created an even bigger zone. The zones are ugly and will be our biggest bugbear this year given our fast style of play. We may need to bring in more taller marking players to get through the congestion in the middle with smaller crumbers at their feet.
Collingwood had a full strength team in. Medhurst was the only notable absentee (Yes 'Rocker' too but he is no given) but they were determined to win and win the NAB Cup as a whole. They are further ahead than us this year given there additional full match practice to build up their match fitness. But we are not attempting to peak early in the season like the Pies appear to be, we are attempting to get better as the year progresses.
There was a lot to like about Rances game and Vickery and Nahas show glimpses of brilliance. Cousins will be better for the run as will all our players.
I think there is a lot of positives to take away from the game rather than just negatives
Stripes
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Dear o Dear...
NAB is never about the result nor how the game is played, has different rules for a start. We missed some key players that will play when the real stuff starts:
Tuck
Bowden
Coughlan
Cotchin
McGuane
Schultz
Hughes
Pattison
and Johnno only played a half after what I thought was not a bad game from him, and I'm one of his biggest knockers. He's our general in the middle that we sometimes really need. We also missed Tucks physical presence in the guts with McGuane hardness in the backline as well.
Pies also had a full strength side missing only Rocca who is junk and Medhurst, Rusling. Credit where credit is due they were pretty disciplined and played strict to there zoning game plan.
So many players haven't had time to gel in matches with the rest of teh side.
Cousins, Thompson, Rance, Graham, Nahas, Hislop, Vickory all very raw in the Richmond side. Anyone whose played the game knows it takes more than training and time to really know your team mates games and to link and gel with each other. It will take time.
Its all about the new players and what they can add to the side in pre season.
Just chill and relax, besides if Browny snap kicked that goal when we were 10 points down, who knows what the result could have been.
Lets not tear the memberships up yet.
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History lesson
Last year we lost to St Kilda in the Nab cup by 40+ points.When we played them in the season proper there wasn't a bees d*ck in it.
You're right, I think that game was even more disgraceful than last night.
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Maybe people are just tired of us losing.
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Maybe people are just tired of us losing.
You could say that
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The criticisms we've all mentioned are least acknowledged by the coaching staff....
Tigers must clean up their act
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Fri 27 February, 2009
IF CLEANLINESS is next to Godliness, then Richmond is a long way from heaven.
The Tigers played some reasonable football in the first half and early in the third term, but Collingwood then grabbed the momentum and kicked nine of the last 11 goals to win their NAB Cup quarter final by 46 points at Telstra Dome on Thursday night.
Tigers coach Terry Wallace saw some positives out of the game, mostly the young or returning players, but he was clearly underwhelmed with his side’s ball use, with the Tigers losing the ‘goals from turnovers’ count 11-4.
“Look, it was a strange game – I thought at half time it was game-on, and I thought six or seven minutes into the third quarter I thought we were slightly starting to get some sort of ascendancy,” he said after the match.
“But it’s a game of momentum, and when you keep having opportunities … if you have a look at scoring shots, there’s not that much between them, you have a look at stoppages, you have a look at contested balls, you have a look at inside 50s, there’s not that much between them.
“But cleanliness of ball use was the difference between the two sides.
“Shots at goal, we went at 25 per cent for the night, we’re missing them from 35 or 40 metres out in front or 45 degree angles, and they’re kicking boundary line shots.
“We went at 25 per cent, they went at 58 percent, last year we kicked at 62 per cent.
“You’re not going to beat anyone if you’re kicking at 25 per cent on goal.
“The other area that we’ve still got to work on is our tackle intensity – I think we were 20 tackles down on the opposition.
“When we had the momentum, we didn’t make the most of the opportunities, and when you do that, you leave the door open.”
The talking point of the final term was the first ever free kick for a deliberately rushed behind. Tigers defender Jordie McMahon handball crossed the goal-line as he was being tackled.
“We’re not allowed to talk about umpire’s decisions, unfortunately, but I’ll speak to Jeff (Gieschen, AFL umpires boss) about it, just to get clarification with it,” Wallace said.
“I was surprised with the call, but that’s OK – everyone’s got to get used to what goes on.
“It’s one goal in the game, it didn’t make any difference to the game, so we don’t get carried away by any of those sorts of things.
“The first thing we’ve got to know is was the umpire’s call right?
“If the call’s incorrect, they’ve got to deal with that side of it and we’ll just deal with the rule as it is.
“If the call was correct, well we probably need some explanation on why it was a correct call.
“No drama, we’ll just have a chat.”
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/72612/default.aspx
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Maybe people are just tired of us losing.
I know I am Julz, i just want to win a few and have people stop laughing at us, I wouldn't mind being "March premiers". I have noticed the only people who say "it's only pre season" are the ones who lose.
I dont mind trying out the newbies and youd expect them to make a few mistakes , but with our seasoned players...I'm sorry, it's unacceptable. I dont care who was missing and I dont care so much about the score, but I do care when our seasoned players make the same old mistakes, because when youve been making the same mistakes time and time again, its not a mistake anymore, its lack of skill.
I'm not about to tear my membership up, but I'm sure Terry would like to tear some players a new one! :banghead
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I've been saying "it's only preseason" to non-Richmond supporters. I was disappointed as a friend of mine has come out from England and his mate and I had talked him into supporting the Tigers and he goes to the game and this happens. We don't seem to be learning from our mistakes.
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While I think we will have a good 2009 I think the first six weeks will be tough.
I know I wont be making any judgements until the season is just about over.
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i must say i am already feeling better about last night watching the bumbers and the lions butchering the ball.
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Going by the game tonight, I see relly no difference between the ball handling in that game to our game. So it has to be a early year thing. And I think this should give us a lot of heart as far as i can see we are as equal with the Bombers and the Lions in the skills area.
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lol :lol cant beleive some supporters take the preseason serious Hello No1 Cares its practice games
anyone who thinks the club was going hard in this game needs to go get a life ;D
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Yep preseason results meaning nothing. Compared to our NAB Cup against St Kilda this time last year Thursday night was still 100 times better despite the mistakes and problems up forward. At least there were positives to take out of this game - our backline worked well both defensively and rebounding and our midfield at centre bounces I would've thought watching live won more than their fair share of clearances (without Tucky there) which makes a pleasant change from last year. Gus at least gives us a 2nd ruck option than Patto did. After the St Kilda NAB game last year I was thinking back-to-back spoons. As Chucky said let's wait till round 6-7 before going ape.
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I thought some of our youngsters were okay and to me the result was irrelevant. (Although it would have been nice to win). Also 8-10 regulars out of the side so nothing to really worry about. If anything I think the Skunks are where they were last year 5-8 and ultimately barring injuries to us we can be there too.At his stage Pies have no injuries and are taking the nab seriously as opposed to other sides. Hawks have overtaken them in memberships need to build a smokescreen to the fact they are skata and no longer number 1 on and off the field. Pies winning nab may buy them a few thousand more with all the friendly Magpie Media outlets jumping on the bandwagon to plug them. On a humorous note to see Joffa and about 200 ferals post match singing Pies song and chanting Collingwood Collingwood outside Gate 2 was just a sight in itself and why they take it so seriously as the hard core Skunk Fan who lives on the result rather than focusing on the content.
Vickery very raw but loved the way he ran his opponent under the ball to centre to Jack in the 3rd.
Thompson looked good and hard at it also.
I also liked the look of Rance also.
I thought Newman was good and Foley was good too.
My biggest beef is with Tambling. 3rd quarter heard the footsteps did not go for it when the ball hung in the air for abit. Very disappointing. He does try but he is not good enough and you'll find if Wallace is not coach at the end of the season Tambling won't be here either. No Wallace to justify him. Will be fodder to Gold Coast for draft picks whilst he is still young.
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Maybe people are just tired of us losing.
I know I am Julz, i just want to win a few and have people stop laughing at us, I wouldn't mind being "March premiers". I have noticed the only people who say "it's only pre season" are the ones who lose.
I dont mind trying out the newbies and youd expect them to make a few mistakes , but with our seasoned players...I'm sorry, it's unacceptable. I dont care who was missing and I dont care so much about the score, but I do care when our seasoned players make the same old mistakes, because when youve been making the same mistakes time and time again, its not a mistake anymore, its lack of skill.
I'm not about to tear my membership up, but I'm sure Terry would like to tear some players a new one! :banghead
I very much agree with most of this. Can sombody please explain to me why a professional football player would loose skills in the 6 weeks they have off and have to regain them in practice matches. Match fitness I could understand but they have been training for 4 months and any rustness should be gone it that time. They cant have forgotten how to kick and handball in 6 weeks can they.
The skills were horrible but what was even worse was the decision making. How many times did somebody handball to a teamate that was going nowhere. Do they loose football thinking in that 6 weeks off too ?
I dont care about the result, I would of just liked to see improvement in those areas and didnt. Least I get to see them in Shepperton :)
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I think the butchering of the ball has been a "feature" of the entire NAB competition thus far.
Apart from Geelong last week.... though after watching them yesterday they seemed to have joined in on the "feature"
This new game style of everyone trying to copy Hawthorn or stop Hawthorn (happy handball anyone :banghead) means all skills need to be spot on. When there is a skill error the turnovers are just killing sides... Perhaps teams should start playing to their own strengths (and I am not just talking about Richmond here) as opposed to trying to copy something that may not or isn't in their best interests
Having re-watched Thursday's game I've come away thinking that it wasn't as bad as what some people think. We were in that game up until the 8-10 minute mark in the final qtr. Having said the way the Ch 10 commentators were carrying on you'd think we had been non-competitive for the entire game. At times the Pies skills and the execution of them were as woeful as ours
And just on this feature/obsession of butchering the ball ::)
I will admit I find it (this obsession with Hawthorn's style) strange.... my take is that we (RFC) won 8 out of the final 11 (I think that was the number) games in 2008 including being the last team to beat Hawthorn playing a very deliberate game style.... Personally I think we should stick to that but hey that's just me
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I have to agree with the above as I too have watched what we do get on the tele and all the games seem to have this feature of bad ball use. So I'm not too worried about it as if it is a trend then we are on the ball with other teams.
And I did see the Pies making errors just like we did to. So I will bet all this is ironed out before the season proper.
I hope anyway I wouldn't want to pay money to watch scrappy games all year long.
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I very much agree with most of this. Can sombody please explain to me why a professional football player would loose skills in the 6 weeks they have off and have to regain them in practice matches. Match fitness I could understand but they have been training for 4 months and any rustness should be gone it that time. They cant have forgotten how to kick and handball in 6 weeks can they.
I have wondered if it has anything to do with the preseason weights that they've done to bulk up. Adding size can alter the way you move and it may just be an adjustment period. I think some forwards lose a bit of accuracy they had while they get used to their new larger bodies too.
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I thought some of our youngsters were okay and to me the result was irrelevant. (Although it would have been nice to win). Also 8-10 regulars out of the side so nothing to really worry about. If anything I think the Skunks are where they were last year 5-8 and ultimately barring injuries to us we can be there too.At his stage Pies have no injuries and are taking the nab seriously as opposed to other sides. Hawks have overtaken them in memberships need to build a smokescreen to the fact they are skata and no longer number 1 on and off the field. Pies winning nab may buy them a few thousand more with all the friendly Magpie Media outlets jumping on the bandwagon to plug them. On a humorous note to see Joffa and about 200 ferals post match singing Pies song and chanting Collingwood Collingwood outside Gate 2 was just a sight in itself and why they take it so seriously as the hard core Skunk Fan who lives on the result rather than focusing on the content.
Vickery very raw but loved the way he ran his opponent under the ball to centre to Jack in the 3rd.
Thompson looked good and hard at it also.
I also liked the look of Rance also.
I thought Newman was good and Foley was good too.
My biggest beef is with Tambling. 3rd quarter heard the footsteps did not go for it when the ball hung in the air for abit. Very disappointing. He does try but he is not good enough and you'll find if Wallace is not coach at the end of the season Tambling won't be here either. No Wallace to justify him. Will be fodder to Gold Coast for draft picks whilst he is still young.
Hard not to agree with 100% of this statement.
Thompson and Vickery i enjoyed watching the most.
Tambling continues to dissapoint though and i believe he is only getting a game because Wallace has to justify to the football public how this fraud gets a senior gig week in week out.
Wow he took an overhead mark, wow he nabbed 5 goals against the eagles. I rate him as i rate JON and Fiora. Weak and pathetic and any other club but freo would have him playing reserves.
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Can sombody please explain to me why a professional football player would loose skills in the 6 weeks they have off and have to regain them in practice matches. Match fitness I could understand but they have been training for 4 months and any rustness should be gone it that time. They cant have forgotten how to kick and handball in 6 weeks can they.
The skills were horrible but what was even worse was the decision making. How many times did somebody handball to a teamate that was going nowhere. Do they loose football thinking in that 6 weeks off too ?
I think it's just getting use to the tempo of the game again which you can't replicate at training or even in intraclub scratch matches. They get 8 weeks off then 3 months training of which most of it is running and weights training. That's almost 5 months without playing a real game. You'd expect them to be rusty and needing a little while to get that split second timing back as far as execution of skills, decision making and functioning as a team rather than as 18 individuals. Add new faces and trialing new positions and tactics and error-riddled performances aren't surprising. Playing with all these experimental rules in the NAB Cup which no one is use to doesn't help either.
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Have to agree with that as it isn't just our team that has played badly, and won or lost it has been close enough to them all.
So thing's can only improve, well I hope so.
The games that they have shown on the idiot box have shown teams need a lot of fine tuning, and this is all the way around.
So this isn't a bagging session on our team but on the lot of them.
And I wouldn't hold much on the games in the preseason. Some teams go all out for it, and some try new kids in new positions. We were one of those, while the Pies, I think have gone all out to get the money in their pocket.
But still showed they need to work on their skills to.
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The quarter-finals saw Collingwood belt Richmond ....
http://afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/72751/default.aspx
A preseason game that was even on the scoreboard for 3 quarters is a belting ???
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Caro said on 3aw tonight that we (Richmond) have admitted we were taken aback by how well prepared and drilled Collingwood were for this time of the year. The Pies are clearly ahead in terms of preparation than other clubs.
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From what I have seen of our game and other teams playing we are just as good as half of tehm or 3 quarters of them.
So if she has watched other teams play and thinks we were the worste of them all. I think she has a paper weight as a brain.
We did play scrappy but so have many others.
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Caro said on 3aw tonight that we (Richmond) have admitted we were taken aback by how well prepared and drilled Collingwood were for this time of the year. The Pies are clearly ahead in terms of preparation than other clubs.
And it'll all mean diddly squat in over 3 weeks time. The Pies can be March premiers all they want :sleep.
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Exactly MT. Pies could be a couple of injuries away from being brought back to the pack and furthermore who can recall those Skunks when they went winless in June for a few years in succession not so long ago. Overrated footy team. If anyone did not know any better they'd think they have made the last 10 grand finals and won 8 of them.
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Inside Football says 10 of the Pies 14 goals came directly from Richmond turnovers :P.
Player ratings...
BROWN, Nathan Picked up by O'Brien. Did few things without taking charge 5
COUSINS, Ben Did OK in much-vaunted return to footy. Concussed by knock late in game 7
DELEDIO, Brett Won a lot of ball early around the ground then to full forward. 8
EDWARDS, Shane Used mainly in defensive role 4
FOLEY, Nathan Consistent ball winner all night. 7
GRAHAM, Angus Substitute came on late in third quarter. Not a big factor 2
HISLOP, Tom Ran hard early and bobbed up a few times. 4
JACKSON, Daniel Run with role on various midfielders and won his share of the footy. 7
JOHNSON, Kane Left field in third quarter with knee-injury. OK til then. 6
KING, Jake No impact 1
McMAHON, Jordan Covered ground but game was punctuated by turnovers and other errors 5
MOORE, Kelvin Had a hard job on the quick-moving Cloke 4
MORTON, Mitch Didn't get much of the ball. 3
NAHAS, Robin Clever at ground level early but then disappeared. 2
NEWMAN, Chris On Lockyer early. Showed the way with a strong game. 6
POLO, Dean Mopped up well and definitely an improver . 7
RAINES, Andrew Ran and delivered beautifully from half back 8
RANCE, Alex Secured uncontested touches. Hard adjusting to tempo and rushed disposal. 3
RICHARDSON, Matt Mixed bag from the Richmond favorite. Ran hard as ever. 5
RIEWOLDT, Jack Missed two gettable goals in third term. Differing approaches to shots 4
SIMMONDS, Troy Toiled in ruck but no influence around ground. 4
TAMBLlNG, Richard Often hurried disposals which reduced effectiveness. 4
THOMSON, Adam Bright start and covered a lot of ground as a forward. 4
THURSFIELD, Will Low key job in defence 4
VICKERY, Tyrone Big ask for kid to start as forward focal point. Still learning. 3
WHITE, Matthew Got amongst it in second quarter and had a fair game. 5
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Well what a terrible game to watch, still can't get over our over use of the ball, bad really bad level of skill and decision making and lack of intensity in the forward line. Also forgot to mention lack of forward pressure, tackling, run and carry..... etc, I think you get the picture.
I hope this is not the Tigers we will be watching all year, pre-season or not I did expect more than I saw, but I am used to that with this club.
Rance & Raines were good and with the exception of the regulars you could throw a blanket of poo over the rest IMO.
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Well what a terrible game to watch, still can't get over our over use of the ball, bad really bad level of skill and decision making and lack of intensity in the forward line. Also forgot to mention lack of forward pressure, tackling, run and carry..... etc, I think you get the picture.
I hope this is not the Tigers we will be watching all year, pre-season or not I did expect more than I saw, but I am used to that with this club.
Rance & Raines were good and with the exception of the regulars you could throw a blanket of poo over the rest IMO.
your opinion is pretty much spot on, althought i thought thompson and Vickery were good. Moore also
The rest were for the tip.
Ill say this though we need some serious pace in our forward line or it will be same old as far as out club in concerned.
Opp teams run it coast coast so easily when they play us. WTF is up with that and why isn't that idiot D.King and Royal onto it. 2 fools they are.