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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: julzqld on September 25, 2004, 05:21:31 PM
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I would say congratulations to Port if I hadn't heard Treadea's "stick that up your a***" - and Chocco's carrying on. Humility in winning and defeat goes a long way.
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Well I won't see my dad for a while. He's a happy boy ;D.
The Lions payed for taking injured players into the game against a classy running side unlike last year when they did the same thing against the average Pie plodders. Port have great foot skills, pace and run. Brisbane were brave but were spent of energy half way through the 3rd quarter. Very rare you see Voss, Black, Brown and Lynch have poor games all at the same time.
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I actually though Williams behavour was a disgrace.
His actions will incite something in the future, lets see what happens when they lose a few games next year, watch out mark :o
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Good on him
Should be able to act how u want when u win a grand final,so long as u dont abuse anyone.
Good to see desperation in celebration.
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His day will come - but winners are grinners!
And if you wanna see disgraceful behaviour - come and check me out if the Tiges ever win another lol
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Im predicting major tears for me when we win one followed by a 2 week binge
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roflmfaoooooooo@going on a 20 year bender wen richmond win the flag to make up for lost time.
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Humility in winning and defeat goes a long way.
I have always believed it is harder to be gracious or humble in victory than in defeat. We have it drummed into us at a young age that we must be gracious when we lose but not when we win. I know some people fail miserably at both but ....
I only caught glimpse of the GF but I saw the presentation - did Warren Tredrea thank the people who made the trip - the fans?
If people want lesson in how to be gracious and humble in victory and or defeat have a listen to Andre Agassi - that's class.
If you want to hear a footballer do it really well - listen to Voss' speeches of the last 4 years - excellent
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Yes I agree WP - a true sportsman is one who shows humility - Pat Rafter was like that also.
And the Grand Final pre-game entertainment - :sleep When they had the retired players, you barely got a glimpse of Duncan and didn't see Rogers at all. Thought the whole pregame was a bit of a bore. Now if Hugh Jackman had been able to sing the National Anthem it would have been all worthwhile ;) Kath & Kim and the gay footballing dancers didn't do it for me. And the guy who sang "the impossible dream" - was that an omen for the Lions? One area the NRL does pretty well at is the pregame entertainment. I remember one year, the AFL had some poor indigenous opera singer who was out of key and time and the next week the NRL had Tina Turner singing "Simply the Best". Of course, the best one was when they had Billy Idol make a grand entrance on a hovercraft type of machine and as soon as he bounced on stage, the power went and by the time they got it going again it was too late for poor Billy to sing :lol :rollin
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Yes I agree WP - a true sportsman is one who shows humility - Pat Rafter was like that also.
And the Grand Final pre-game entertainment - :sleep When they had the retired players, you barely got a glimpse of Duncan and didn't see Rogers at all. Thought the whole pregame was a bit of a bore. Now if Hugh Jackman had been able to sing the National Anthem it would have been all worthwhile ;) Kath & Kim and the gay footballing dancers didn't do it for me. And the guy who sang "the impossible dream" - was that an omen for the Lions? One area the NRL does pretty well at is the pregame entertainment. I remember one year, the AFL had some poor indigenous opera singer who was out of key and time and the next week the NRL had Tina Turner singing "Simply the Best". Of course, the best one was when they had Billy Idol make a grand entrance on a hovercraft type of machine and as soon as he bounced on stage, the power went and by the time they got it going again it was too late for poor Billy to sing :lol :rollin
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Sorry to repeat myself - everyone got the point I'm sure. :banghead
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Yes I agree WP - a true sportsman is one who shows humility - Pat Rafter was like that also.
Pat Rafter was a dud who had a good run.
When he stopped to analyse himself as a player he schit himself.
LMAOOOOOO@Arsing 2 US opens.
LMAOOOO@Shaving his head and body cos he sweats too much.
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And the Grand Final pre-game entertainment - :sleep
Say that again Julz. Looked like Demetriou missed going to the Opera last weekend and so he brought the Opera to the footy lol.
It's amazing how every year the pre-game "entertainment is a shocker yet once again they roll out the stiff as a board kiddies in a mass choir and singers hardly anyone knows. The chitter-chatter of the crowd showed they were bored stiff. It wasn't until Kath and Kim came on that they took notice of what was going on.
btw you can't knock a loyal Tiger supporter like Kath :thumbsup. Kim's definitely a Collingwood supporter ;D.
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Yes I agree WP - a true sportsman is one who shows humility - Pat Rafter was like that also.
Pat Rafter was a dud who had a good run.
When he stopped to analyse himself as a player he schit himself.
LMAOOOOOO@Arsing 2 US opens.
LMAOOOO@Shaving his head and body cos he sweats too much.
FLMFAOOOOOOOo Ox. So so sooooo true. lmfaoooooooo@me hating Pat Rafter with a passion.
How's the luck having to face duds like Mark Phillipoussis and Todd Martin in Grand Slam finals.
lmfaoooooooo@quitting sport to become a regular for tacky commercials. lmfaoooooo@acting badly even by commercials' standard.
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ROOOOLIN JohnF.
I'm shocked that we would share a mutual hatred for someone. :thumbsup
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Sorry to repeat myself - everyone got the point I'm sure. :banghead
What about Gay Sebastian's faggotisation of the country's unofficial national anthem.
FFS.
How much more un-symbolic of of our game can u get.
Would much rather prefer a bunch of old wogs dressed in togas,singing excerpts of lyrical interpretation fom Paganini
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I hope the AFL take into consideration that Damian Hardwick, on practically all occasions, provoked/started the fights that occured on Grand Final day. I can just see that horrible little Port so-and-so just needling away at Brown, just waiting for him to snap. Actually Brown reminds me a lot of my son (scary thought! :help) Hardwick should be made to answer for that. Smug jerk - I have hated him since that furore where he deliberately chased down our runner and yet he got off lightly.
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AFL Tribunal Please Explain: What the heck is the charge of "attempting to strike" - is that a penalty for not actually making contact? Alistair Lynch has been booked on 7 counts - 3 for striking, 2 for attempting to strike (?!) and 2 for wrestling. Do you really think he gives a stuff about this now he has retired?
Once again, the Tribunal has shown what a joke it is.
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Once again, the Tribunal has shown what a joke it is.
At least they are consistent ;D.
In tribunal lingo "attempting to strike" must mean throwing a haymaker. I'd reckon Lynch threw more than 2 "attempts to strike" at Wakelin ;).
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So does that mean the Tribunal wants to penalise Lynch for having a bad throw and not connecting? And what's the difference between "attempting to strike" and "wrestling" really?
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Lynch is in trouble no matter what
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Do you think though he really cares? What can the AFL do but slap a fine on him? And really how much can a fine do? Sure James Hird got fined $20,000 but the umpires have been soft on him and the Bombers ever since? Best $20,000 he's ever spent.
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Oh Brian Collis has really excelled himself this time. Hate to think what Lynch would have got if he had actually planted a right hook on Wakelin and hadn't announced his retirement. The thing that gets me (as she constantly goes on about it) is the inconsistency. How come Wanganeen is cleared of striking Chris Scott because Ian Robinson found that "an arm thrown back into Scott's chest and neck does not constitute a strike" (Gold Coast Bulletin Wednesday 29/9) but "Simon Black also remained in Brisbane to fight the two striking charges by video-link to the tribunal sitting in Southbank. He conceded he made contact to the chest and upper shoulder of Power onballer Damien Hardwick.' (Herald Sun today) and copped suspension. Wouldn't the Wanganeen case be considered "attempting to strike". And of course, Jonathon Brown won't stand a chance a)because he has been to the tribunal too many times this year and b)because he got off last time and showed the Tribunal how flawed it really is and now it will be payback time. :banghead Even the $5000 fine Wakelin is a joke - Daryl I'd be hitting Hardwick to contribute towards that. Both him and Lynch fought like girls and yet Hardwick can deliberately run down someone running away from him and only cop - what was it - $1500
The AFL Tribunal is such a joke. No wonder NRL followers think our game is such a nancy-game. :banghead :banghead
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After Jeff Farmer got off for what he did to that Adelaide player, you just wonder about the whole system Julz.
In order to connect, Farmer had to bring his knee from a long way back, with sufficient force that did severe damage to the guy's eye. Yet he gets off. And then we see acts such as "attempting to strike" go up. :help
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juzgold
What penalty would you have given Lynch ?
Ditto Wakelin, Brown and Black.
Just curious - ;)
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Well you've got me there Ronnie. Don't really know - and I'm not saying that they shouldn't be punished for what they did. I'm just mad about the inconsistencies. So good to hear that the Tribunal is going to have an overhaul. Bout time. I don't think the punishment should be harder because it was a Grand Final. I do think that if the AFL are out to "sanitise" the game then they should also look at people who instigate trouble such as Damian Hardwick.
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For what irt's worth I would have given Lynch $10,00 fine (I believe they had to fine him otherwise he really gets off) and four weeks (in case he does do the unlikely and want to play somewhere local)
I'd have given Wakelin the normal fine for wrestling (poor mugs who don't start it, like Richo, always get fined).
I'd have given Black 2 weeks for one strike and not guilty on the other. In a normal game I'd give one week.
I'd give Brown four weeks (not six like most are claiming) In a normal game two weeks.
In my opinion the tribunal do a good job - I always like to listen to Bondy on 3AW - he gets it right most times and I don't think that he is too critical of the system as it operates now.
Oh - and I'd give Ottens 8 weeks for treachery and ingratitude
The only decision that I didn't like this year was the 4 weeks for Baker's strike on Johnson - that was an extremely rare offence imho - he chased him and landed a severe punch that could have caused serious injury. He was extremely lucky.
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If there is a precedent set here, Brown gets 8, exactly the same as Baker incident who got 4, AFL state double penalty for Grand Final, so 8 it should be
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I reckon the tribunal will be out to punish Brown severely because he got off on a technicality last time. The AFL doesn't like being made a fool off and I would say they've been waiting for his next indiscretion. Reckon they'll throw the book at him.
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I'd give the carnts a medal for taking the game back to what it should be .
I hate the gay policing/revenue raising of the AFL
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Bring back the biff eh Oxx?
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ROFLFMAOOOOO@at the fact that Lynch would have copped less weeks if he dropped Wakelin with his first punch.
LMFAOOOOOOOOO@copping ten weeks for being a scchit boxer!
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Put it this way sweet Juelz,
They train and breed champions.
The guys are basically on the edge when it comes to game day,if for no other reason than to get the best out of themselves and thrash their opponent - the objective of the game.
When two guys go toe to toe like lynch and Wakelin did it;s bloody great.
Lets look at the situation:
1)np punches landed.
2)Could be costrued as a customary Grand Final tactic,one that has happened many,many times before.
If not for the fact that Lynch was retiring im sure the AFL would not have fined him such a ludicrous amount.
Its a dog act from the pound itself,a way of saying "u thought u could stuff us cos its ure last game - well stuff you pal!".
Those farken nazi bastards.
They have more power within their monopolised tribunal society than the cops do when arresting someone.
This Bull Schit has got to stop.
These carnts are lining their pockets with everyones money and praising one another for how good they all are.
Only afew elite players can truly admit to receiving any major annual payments while the others earn less than the farken AFL CEOs.
Nothing against my Greek brothers but Dimitriou is just a stubborn,egotistical,lying son of a greek bitch.
The only way that any change can be made is for the teams to go on strike as teams do all over the world.
Clubs should receive all income for all things associated with the club.
Clubs should be allowed to promote and sell product minus any commission to the AFL on any level.
ie -own the rights to all merchandising 100 percent.
Aussie rules is now thw nost policed game in the world and penalising and fining players over wrestling is
just another communist ploy
If thats not hard enough to take add the fact that all the prix behind the scenes are ome of the biggest crooks
in the country,only thing is they have never been caught.
Clubs should not have to attend media conferences just to apease the demands of the AFL.
Basically the AFL is like a big record company
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The fining fiasco also extends into the coaching,media and farken everywhere.
If a player has an opinion as an insider regardin,say,the inconsistency of a certain umpire and chooses to
share his thoughts on Kerry Packers network then what in the hell gives the afl the right to
impose a fine on that particular individual.
What are they afraid of ?
Losing face ? - LMAOOOO
That would just prove that the running of the institution is fuelled mainlly on ego.
Its the afls FAULT if the umpires arent up to an acceptable level(which they aren;t)
With all the folding the priks have u would expect by now that some type of sysytem had been
implemented where game vision and perspective of the players was given as much thought when training umpires
as the current regime of inconsitency seems to bekkon.
Trying isnt good enough.
These apex standards must be met.
LMAO@How an umpire is portayed as an impartial imbicile,not unlike a priest in that we are supposed to believe his intrests are for the best and made without the slightest prejudice.
This is another urban myth we choose to accept.