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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 27, 2009, 07:43:02 AM
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Fire away :-\
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Forfeit?
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The team that is in our town is looking to be closing down after 99 years.
Due to the fact they can't get players.
I thik I would have prefered them on the feild last night.
I am not a happy person today, like a bear with a toothache.
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Whatever changes are made are academic inasmuch as it is the best club in the competition at home againat a poohouse rabble so the result is a foregone conclusion.
I would shield the kids from the mauling. Play the old hands and just accept the hammering. At least few of us will be there to see it.
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I think it was practically our best team out there which is frightening, I dont think we have a lot of options.
Rance in for Raines.
Thompson in for Cuz
Maybe Polo in for someone
I wouldn't be making too many changes, I would be challenging every player (apart from Morton) to redeem themselves.
I think it is more our structure that needs to be worked on, if McMahon is not delivering it out of the backline he shouldn't be in the side, I think the job was given to Raines and it was terrible to watch the pressure he placed our other players under. If Richo's man is hurting us then Richo needs to be played at FF, we cant have players like Waite carving us up. Also a defender who can play on the small forwards would be appreciated, eg Betts.
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Forfeit?
lol
Out: Bowden, Brown, McMahon, Browne, Schulz, Cousins (inj.), Raines (inj.)
In: Rance, Collins, Polo, Vickery, Post, Hislop, Thomson (if fit)
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Out : CUB
In : Anyone else that wants to take my spot amongst the ferals :(
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NO CHANGE
Theres no need for likes of Rance, Post, Thomson et all to get slaughtered for no reason. Keep all the experienced players in and let them cop it instead.
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Its all about redemption next week and after that poo we put together nothing but a win will suffice.
Make the palyers that played that crap earn their redemption.
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out bowden mcmahon edwards
in rance polo collins
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out bowden mcmahon edwards
in rance polo collins
Why slaughter the kids Blaisee. We're going to lose anyway...and badly. Theres no need to put the kids in next week.
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out bowden mcmahon edwards
in rance polo collins
i agree with those changes and throw in Schulz but it wont happen.
Wallet is saving what little time he has left, so what you will see is
OUT
Raines
Cuz
Mcguane
IN
Rance
Polo
Thompson
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Out: Richmond
In: Coburg
Can't do any worse!!
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Out: Cousins, Raines, McMahon, Bowden
In: Polo, Rance, Collins, Thompson
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Out: Cousins, Raines, McMahon, Bowden
In: Polo, Rance, Collins, Thompson
yep although, I'd swap edwards for Bowden...gee we need to be competitive...would hate to be in TW shoes if ths ends in misery
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With two injuries on top of the ones we already have it'll mean a few who should be dropped won't be :-\.
In: Polo, Rance, Hislop
Out: Raines (inj), Cousins (inj), McMahon
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Out. Raines Cousins Edwards ,Tambling ,McMahon and Schulz
In. Anyone who wants to attack the football and not zone off and get uncontested possesions, and anyone who is prepared to kick the ball more than 20 metres
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Tambling was one of our best against Carlton and was repeatedly going in hard for the ball (he injured two Carlton players doing so), so why drop him?
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With thompson not playing for Coburg yesterday
I'd be bringing in Hislop
I could make about 8 changes without batting an eyelid but I reckon at a minimum there has to be at least 4 possible 5
Actually if we could I'd promote Silvestor to the senior list and drop Thursfield after Thursday night - he was shocking
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Tambling was one of our best against Carlton and was repeatedly going in hard for the ball (he injured two Carlton players doing so), so why drop him?
Was he ?????
Mate you must of been at the wrong game.
seen him twice pull out of contests. poo himself
Got pushed off the ball by Simpson twice.
One thing is for certain, you cannot play 3 lightweights in the same team
Tambling ,McMahon and Edwards.
forget about uncontested possesions too
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Tambling was one of our best against Carlton and was repeatedly going in hard for the ball (he injured two Carlton players doing so), so why drop him?
And until now I thought I was the only one that saw some positive in Tambling's game on Thursday night. :thumbsup
Was one of our only players who put it all in to competing for the footy and winning it while about 18 others were as a whole, both non-committal or desperate.
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With two injuries on top of the ones we already have it'll mean a few who should be dropped won't be :-\.
In: Polo, Rance, Hislop
Out: Raines (inj), Cousins (inj), McMahon
spot on , perhaps add edwards to that list also ::)
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Tambling was one of our best against Carlton and was repeatedly going in hard for the ball (he injured two Carlton players doing so), so why drop him?
And until now I thought I was the only one that saw some positive in Tambling's game on Thursday night. :thumbsup
Was one of our only players who put it all in to competing for the footy and winning it while about 18 others were as a whole, both non-committal or desperate.
Yep, and i seen him refuse to pick up apponents, stand in the middle of the ground with his hands on hips and walking to contests, hey, no wonder we got flogged.
Might also add the Cousins busted his arse and ran down the ground to try and pick up apponents and stand in defensive zones and actually ran past Tambling doing it.
How many years to do people want to give Tambling??? Give him another 3 years say the faithful on OER :lol
Calton had 4 new players the other night and they do they right things. Didnt you notice no 12 Mitch Robinson.?? :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Tambling was one of our best against Carlton and was repeatedly going in hard for the ball (he injured two Carlton players doing so), so why drop him?
Was he ?????
Mate you must of been at the wrong game.
seen him twice pull out of contests. poo himself
Got pushed off the ball by Simpson twice.
One thing is for certain, you cannot play 3 lightweights in the same team
Tambling ,McMahon and Edwards.
forget about uncontested possesions too
Mcmahon and/or tambling dropped. You must be joking Jack. Our Terry will not drop either under his tenure. It would show what everyone in the football world already knows in what a terrible choice Mcmahon was.
I actually feel sick when i watch him play his uncontested crap. So weak and skinny like most of his mates.
People bag Bowden but at least Bowden has helped win some games.
I would rather see James Manson back there in our defense than Mcmahon
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Out
McMahon, Bowden, Edwards, Cousins, Raines, Jackson
In
Rance, Polo, Collins, Post, Thomson, King
* Richmond lacks a 'small quick defender' that can go with small forwards.
* Jake King, Tom Hislop, Matthew White - should be those 'small defenders'.
* They are 'tough at the Football, and quick'.
Geelong v Richmond
King, Moore, Thursfield
Rance, McGuane, Newman
Richardson, Foley, Collins
Deledio, Post, Riewoldt
Morton, Schulz, Brown
Simmonds
Tuck
Thomson
Browne, Tambling, Polo, White
* Deledio - should be playing on the Half-Forward Flank, where he is very dangerous! Midfield with him is useless! He gets tagged!
* Unlash Thomson on ball against Geelong.
* Running out of patience with Schulz, Brown!
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Out- Raines, Cousins, Edwards, McMahon and Jackson
In- Rance, Thompson, Polo, Hislop and King (all of which are hard and have ago)
Collinsis simply not ready to play AFL yet!
Go Tiges!
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Out: Cousins, Raines, McMahon, Jackson, Bowden, Schultz, Edwards
In: Thomson, Rance, Collins, Hislop, Post, Polo, Nahas
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Cotchin + Coughlan soon i hope too :-\
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Tigers consider four changes for clash with Geelong
Caroline Wilson | March 31, 2009
RICHMOND is expected to take a punt on two debutants in Saturday's clash against Geelong at Skilled Stadium and make at least four changes to the side that was humiliated by Carlton last Thursday night.
And former Western Bulldogs defender Jordan McMahon will come under heavy scrutiny in the coming days as Terry Wallace looks to wield the axe upon at least one member of the errant backline that failed dismally against the Blues.
Alex Rance is likely to play, along with former Bomber Tom Hislop, who came to the Tigers at the end of last season via the national draft. Dean Polo, whose 2008 season never recovered from a damaging shoulder injury, could also return to the senior side.
With Wallace and the entire club under massive scrutiny, the soon-to-be-out-of-contract senior coach has spent several soul-searching days reviewing last week's game and looking ahead to what is looming as a high-pressure fortnight in which the Tigers will take on the premiership favourite Geelong followed by the highly fancied Western Bulldogs in round three.
Wallace and his entire match committee spent last Saturday afternoon watching Coburg, the team's VFL affiliate, take on the Northern Bullants. Rance, 20, the son of former West Australian star Murray, came to the club last year but could not make the senior team, and Hislop — who played seven games in two seasons at Essendon — both starred along with Polo. With first-gamer Andrew Browne expected to return to the VFL this weekend, Wallace also scrutinised the performances of Adam Pattison and Angus Graham. Both put in solid performances in the ruck with Graham the more likely starter against Geelong given Pattison's lack of match fitness.
In a crucial clash for the Tigers, in which Tom Hawkins will likely make his 2009 debut for Geelong, Wallace has continued to keep a low profile, with Richmond president Gary March attempting to defuse speculation regarding his future by stating that he believed the coach would see out the season.
Richmond is also expected to talk with controversial recruit Ben Cousins in the coming days in a bid to set down a series of media guidelines, following his decision to reach media agreement with two outlets without the club's permission.
With Cousins and Andrew Raines both out of the side for at least three to four weeks, at least two changes will be forced upon the Tigers this weekend and at least a further two players are expected to be dropped.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/tigers-consider-four-changes/2009/03/30/1238261514075.html
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Seems all the other sides in the league manage to spring one from the box and usually against us.
I think Rance may be 1 for us, here's hoping.
Agree with the consensus too - Thompson Hislop and Polo have some of the qualities this side needs right now.
Out Edwards McMahon Raines (Inj) Cuz (Inj)
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Out: Weakness and laziness.
In: Ticker and a bit of mongrel.
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Out: Cousins, Raines, McMahon, Jackson, Bowden, Schultz, Edwards
In: Thomson, Rance, Collins, Hislop, Post, Polo, Nahas
Nahas cant play or are you thinking someone else may be put on the LTI list
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5 changes
Out:
Bowden, McMahon, Jackson (omitted)
Cousins, Raines (inj)
In:
Rance, Collins, Polo, Thompson, Hislop
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Out: Cousins, Raines, McMahon, Jackson, Bowden, Schultz, Edwards
In: Thomson, Rance, Collins, Hislop, Post, Polo, Nahas
Nahas cant play or are you thinking someone else may be put on the LTI list
Hoping
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we cannot over react, if we drop all the poor players from rnd 1 then only morton, jack, and tambling will play and the rst will all be dropped.
we need some changes but should give some players a chance to redeem themselves
imo out: mcmahon, edwards, browne and cousins(inj)
in : polo, rance, hislop and patto
if patto is not fit enough, give ranga browne another go
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we cannot over react, if we drop all the poor players from rnd 1 then only morton, jack, and tambling will play and the rst will all be dropped.
we need some changes but should give some players a chance to redeem themselves
imo out: mcmahon, edwards, browne and cousins(inj)
in : polo, rance, hislop and patto
if patto is not fit enough, give ranga browne another go
Has Raines made a miraculous recovery?
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sorry forgot raines, cos he is insignificant
out raines in collins or cogs
we know cogs isnt 100% but just for his in and under work in the packs he may be very useful. at least when cogs gets the ball he does not waste it like that foley pretender, foley may as well wear an opposition jumper, he has always had a skill and disposal problem. never had an issue winning the ball, just using it
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we cannot over react, if we drop all the poor players from rnd 1 then only morton, jack, and tambling will play and the rst will all be dropped.
we need some changes but should give some players a chance to redeem themselves
White was decent also.
But we must drop at least the crappest 6 players
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we cannot over react, if we drop all the poor players from rnd 1 then only morton, jack, and tambling will play and the rst will all be dropped.
we need some changes but should give some players a chance to redeem themselves
imo out: mcmahon, edwards, browne and cousins(inj)
in : polo, rance, hislop and patto
if patto is not fit enough, give ranga browne another go
Agree with your changes here with the exception of the rucks department. Patto is now considered a forward to allow the 'pure' ruckmen a chance to develop. I would expect Gus will get the nod.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that mcmahon will stay in and rance will stay out unfortunately. :(
Stripes
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we cannot over react, if we drop all the poor players from rnd 1 then only morton, jack, and tambling will play and the rst will all be dropped.
we need some changes but should give some players a chance to redeem themselves
White was decent also.
But we must drop at least the crappest 6 players
white i dont rate , another list clogger, another foley, nice pace but pathetic disposal but we cannot drop them all at once. but if white and foley both have games where there disposal lets us down, they should be dropped for rd 3
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we cannot over react, if we drop all the poor players from rnd 1 then only morton, jack, and tambling will play and the rst will all be dropped.
we need some changes but should give some players a chance to redeem themselves
imo out: mcmahon, edwards, browne and cousins(inj)
in : polo, rance, hislop and patto
if patto is not fit enough, give ranga browne another go
Agree with your changes here with the exception of the rucks department. Patto is now considered a forward to allow the 'pure' ruckmen a chance to develop. I would expect Gus will get the nod.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that mcmahon will stay in and rance will stay out unfortunately. :(
Stripes
true about patto, but if he is fit enough, at least he gives a contest all the time and never drops his head.
re mcmahon, you may be correct because it is no secret that he is a favorite of wallace and wallace cannot see all his faults..wallace is making the same mistakes here that he did at the doggies, he has 15 more weeks to prove himself, if we somehow make finals and become damn good, he will stay, but if by rnd 15 or so , once we have played every team once, if we have no chance to make finals, wallace can rejoin foxtel
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we cannot over react, if we drop all the poor players from rnd 1 then only morton, jack, and tambling will play and the rst will all be dropped.
we need some changes but should give some players a chance to redeem themselves
White was decent also.
But we must drop at least the crappest 6 players
white i dont rate , another list clogger, another foley, nice pace but pathetic disposal but we cannot drop them all at once. but if white and foley both have games where there disposal lets us down, they should be dropped for rd 3
White was the one player with decent disposal on Thursday night.
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white i dont rate , another list clogger, another foley, nice pace but pathetic disposal but we cannot drop them all at once. but if white and foley both have games where there disposal lets us down, they should be dropped for rd 3
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Foley is our best midfielder hands down and White is quickly proving he will be a big part of our future. Foley came second in our B&F in 2007 and made the Victorian team last year so he is not only rated by our club but the football world in general. White has pace to burn and has developed into a strong midfielder with good hand and foot skills.
If you are going to pinpoint players with questionable desposal skills in the team Tuck, Simmonds and even Richo would come well before Foley and White.
You're certainly not pulling any punches considering you are only new to the forum TT! I hope you don't mind me doing the same. :thumbsup
Stripes
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You're certainly not pulling any punches considering you are only new to the forum TT! I hope you don't mind me doing the same. :thumbsup
Stripes
Hmmmm!!!
new name maybe
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white i dont rate , another list clogger, another foley, nice pace but pathetic disposal but we cannot drop them all at once. but if white and foley both have games where there disposal lets us down, they should be dropped for rd 3
:o
Foley is our best midfielder hands down and White is quickly proving he will be a big part of our future. Foley came second in our B&F in 2007 and made the Victorian team last year so he is not only rated by our club but the football world in general. White has pace to burn and has developed into a strong midfielder with good hand and foot skills.
If you are going to pinpoint players with questionable desposal skills in the team Tuck, Simmonds and even Richo would come well before Foley and White.
You're certainly not pulling any punches considering you are only new to the forum TT! I hope you don't mind me doing the same. :thumbsup
Stripes
foley .......great at winning the ball, and bluffing us all
may be new here, but followed the tigers all my life, post on pre a fair bit...............am i allowed to say that here :shh
yes we were embarrassing last week, but we cannot panic. it is only round 1 long way to go, even if geelong pump us
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we cannot over react, if we drop all the poor players from rnd 1 then only morton, jack, and tambling will play and the rst will all be dropped.
we need some changes but should give some players a chance to redeem themselves
White was decent also.
But we must drop at least the crappest 6 players
white i dont rate , another list clogger, another foley, nice pace but pathetic disposal but we cannot drop them all at once. but if white and foley both have games where there disposal lets us down, they should be dropped for rd 3
White was the only player which could hitplayers in the forward 50 with the ball
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it is just my opinion, white, just like many of our players , would not get a game at any other club bar melbourne if they are lucky
i would love to be proven wrong
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it is just my opinion, white, just like many of our players , would not get a game at any other club bar melbourne if they are lucky
i would love to be proven wrong
How exactly do you wish us to prove it even though it was partly proved considering he hit targets all night on Thursday, one of our few players to do so. ::)
And across all of last season his disposal was continually improving.
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How exactly do you wish us to prove it even though it was partly proved considering he hit targets all night on Thursday, one of our few players to do so. ::)
And across all of last season his disposal was continually improving.
Yep cant fault his disposal based on last Thursday, I remember three breaks he made form the centre with perfect passes that hit the mark.
Cant remember that happening too often for anyone else.
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Caro just said McMahon and Thursty should get the chop. Jordie because he hasn't been in form for a while and Thursty because he showed no defensive side to his game.
She would bring in first gamers as they are in vogue and show effort - Rance and Hislop. Healy is a massive fan of Rance. Reckons he's a great kick. Caro would also bring in Gus for Browne as well as Polo.
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Caro just said McMahon and Thursty should get the chop. Jordie because he hasn't been in form for a while and Thursty because he showed no defensive side to his game.
She would bring in first gamers as they are in vogue and show effort - Rance and Hislop. Healy is a massive fan of Rance. Reckons he's a great kick. Caro would also bring in Gus for Browne as well as Polo.
caro said thursty shows no defensive side to his game?? she should get a life
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Caro just said McMahon and Thursty should get the chop. Jordie because he hasn't been in form for a while and Thursty because he showed no defensive side to his game.
She would bring in first gamers as they are in vogue and show effort - Rance and Hislop. Healy is a massive fan of Rance. Reckons he's a great kick. Caro would also bring in Gus for Browne as well as Polo.
caro said thursty shows no defensive side to his game?? she should get a life
my thoughts exactly, when fit thursty is by far our best defender
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caro said thursty shows no defensive side to his game?? she should get a life
my thoughts exactly, when fit thursty is by far our best defender
based on last thursday he certainly wasn't and I would have no hesitation in dropping based on last week's effort. If he wasn't fit he shouldn't have played, Rance should have IMHO
Certainly wouldn't drop Browne, he deserves another chance, he showed a bit to suggest he is worth persisting with. And FWIW based on Gus' efforts on Saturday he doesn't deserve to be gifted a game, you'd better off playing Patto who's very underdone
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I always thought that it would take at least 5 or 6 weeks for TW to settle on our best 22.Fortunatly with the injuries we sustained last Thursday he has no choice but to give others a go.Looking forward to seeing the new faces in the team this week.......Polo & Rance.
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And Nahas. ;) :cheers
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I miss Connors.
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send him a Hallmark card
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In: Nahas, Rance, Polo (should have played last week), Hislop.
Out: Raines (should have been dropped anyway), Cuz, McMahon & Edwards (both Terry's pets).
Leave Browne there, he did nothing wrong.................
Richo I think may have had his day on the wing. Think its time to settle him at FF again. Teams have done a lot of homework on him and are hurting us offensively.
When you look at Geelong team you really worry how bad this game may get.
Ablett, Bartel, Ling, Selwood, Corey, Milburn, Chapman, Kelly, Johnson. Oh dear !!!!
For the first time ever I may just go and do some gardening and not even get a score check
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we cannot over react, if we drop all the poor players from rnd 1 then only morton, jack, and tambling will play and the rst will all be dropped.
we need some changes but should give some players a chance to redeem themselves
White was decent also.
But we must drop at least the crappest 6 players
white i dont rate , another list clogger, another foley, nice pace but pathetic disposal but we cannot drop them all at once. but if white and foley both have games where there disposal lets us down, they should be dropped for rd 3
White was the only player which could hitplayers in the forward 50 with the ball
agree with you on white
skills have improved a heap this year on that performance. Was running flat out and nailed stab passes to the leading forwards. Very unrichmond like. Hopefully he builds on this performance this week. As is usually the case with young players, an improvement in his endurance and overall fitness has resulted in less fatigue in the game, and in turn resulted in a better overall skill level
Keep it up whitey
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In: Nahas, Rance, Polo (should have played last week), Hislop.
Out: Raines (should have been dropped anyway), Cuz, McMahon & Edwards (both Terry's pets).
Leave Browne there, he did nothing wrong.................
Richo I think may have had his day on the wing. Think its time to settle him at FF again. Teams have done a lot of homework on him and are hurting us offensively.
When you look at Geelong team you really worry how bad this game may get.
Ablett, Bartel, Ling, Selwood, Corey, Milburn, Chapman, Kelly, Johnson. Oh dear !!!!
For the first time ever I may just go and do some gardening and not even get a score check
I THINK RICHO SHOULD PLAY HFF, give him room to move up the ground and be damaging up fwd, in his early days , richo played his best footy as a floating hff'er
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Richo I think may have had his day on the wing. Think its time to settle him at FF again. Teams have done a lot of homework on him and are hurting us offensively.
I'd play Richo at FF to free up Jack and/or Jay
With Richo ar FF he gets Scarlett, their number 1 defender
Harry Taylor would then likely go to Jack or Jay - gives them an easier match up
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Richo I think may have had his day on the wing. Think its time to settle him at FF again. Teams have done a lot of homework on him and are hurting us offensively.
I'd play Richo at FF to free up Jack and/or Jay
With Richo ar FF he gets Scarlett, their number 1 defender
Harry Taylor would then likely go to Jack or Jay - gives them an easier match up
Like you're thinking WP. Makes us unpredictable again which was one of the strengths of moving Richo to the wing in the first place. Just need to ensure the midfielders are instructed to look for other options OTHER than Richo up forward before they go to hime. His kicking has been terrible this year and this will keep the defenders guessing too.
Stripes
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if richo plays FF, scarlett wil own him again. scarlett would also run off him and become a loose man for the cats as we know richo wont run with him in hope a turnover eventuates and he gets a cheap goal.
richo must play hff, finish his career where he began, with a licence to run . richo needs room to move, he hates being bottled up at ff. also when richo plays at ff, we just bomb it long to him without looking at other options, richo get triple teamed and very frustrated.
ff is a bad spot for the cho imo
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Waite did well on Richo last year too in our centenary game. It appears he is the one opposition player who has the athleticism and height to go with the big fella on the wing. So I wouldn't be throwing out the idea of Richo on the wing based on one game and one opponent. We know Richo permanently at FF doesn't work as our mids ignore our other forwards.
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Waite did well on Richo last year too in our centenary game. It appears he is the one opposition player who has the athleticism and height to go with the big fella on the wing. So I wouldn't be throwing out the idea of Richo on the wing based on one game and one opponent. We know Richo permanently at FF doesn't work as our mids ignore our other forwards.
Good post MT.
Yeah let's panic and revert to kick it to Richo again. It's been so successful for the past 15 years. :P :P
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The problem with Richo now is that, despite he being a massive offensive weapon for the team, he is also a major defensive flaw. Opposition teams are now exploiting his lack of accountability and hurting us the other way. Of course the opposition needs a player that would hurt us in the first place that can line up on Richo but in effect Richo is becoming a loose player allowing the opposition to have a loose player in return.
Last year when Bowden and Petts were dropped, they were sent to the Burgers as an example because they did not tackle. Richo was another player who was equally poor defensively who did not tackle at the time. The excuse was made for Richo though that he was such an offensive weapon that he brought more to the team that way so compensated for the defensive downfall. I don't feel this is right. Everyone from the oldest and/or best player all the way to the youngest should follow the same standards IMO.
I don't think Richo should become our sole FF for rotating him through the position and freeing up players such as Riewoldt and Schulz would not be a bad thing. If Scarlett runs off him then Richo will have to run with him, full stop or our loose man in defence will have to make up the slack but I think this is once again sending the wrong message.
Regardless of where he plays Richo needs to be more accountable for the teams sack.
Stripes
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Waite did well on Richo last year too in our centenary game. It appears he is the one opposition player who has the athleticism and height to go with the big fella on the wing. So I wouldn't be throwing out the idea of Richo on the wing based on one game and one opponent. We know Richo permanently at FF doesn't work as our mids ignore our other forwards.
Generally I would agree but Buddy can do it for Hawthorn, Pavlich can do it for Freo, Geelong dont need to worry about Richo cos their midfield is supreme, Bombers may use a Ryder, Bulldogs may use an Everitt doing the same thing....etc...Anyone who is tall and athletic and can run.
I do agree that we dont go back to richo at FF...the hff is a better possie probably...or just leave him there on the wing and instruct him to chase and tackle like the other 21 guys in the team...If his man starts doing a "Waite" on him, tell the Cho to go to FF (as much as we dont like it - Waite would have been out of his element at FB)
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Regardless of where he plays Richo needs to be more accountable for the teams sack.
He's never played that way and is not about to start. WYSIWYG.
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Out. Raines Cousins Edwards ,Tambling ,McMahon and Schulz
In. Anyone who wants to attack the football and not zone off and get uncontested possesions, and anyone who is prepared to kick the ball more than 20 metres
Damn
I thought you were calling me up Jack, until i saw the part about being able to kick more than 20 metres
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We know Richo permanently at FF doesn't work as our mids ignore our other forwards.
I am not suggesting we play richo at FF from now until he hangs up his boots
I am suggesting it for this week. It is also about how we play Richo at FF and what plan we use
Now if it was up to me the plan would be this:
Plonk the big bloke at FF. Instruct our mids to honour the first 2 Richo leads no matter what, ensure that our crumbers are somewhere around these contests. two things are likely to happen Richo marks the bloody thing or brings it ground (actually there is 3 - it could be kicked over his head ;D) As is usually the case with the opposition they are likely then to stick 2 blokes on Richo for all contests, this should free up others to create other leading targets, our mids should then use the other options, Richo becomes an decoy option only until the opposition cottons on ... and then we can go back to kicking it to Richo in a one on one contest which he is liklely to win 8 times out of 10...
Simple really ;D
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We know Richo permanently at FF doesn't work as our mids ignore our other forwards.
I am not suggesting we play richo at FF from now until he hangs up his boots
I am suggesting it for this week. It is also about how we play Richo at FF and what plan we use
Now if it was up to me the plan would be this:
Plonk the big bloke at FF. Instruct our mids to honour the first 2 Richo leads no matter what, ensure that our crumbers are somewhere around these contests. two things are likely to happen Richo marks the bloody thing or brings it ground (actually there is 3 - it could be kicked over his head ;D) As is usually the case with the opposition they are likely then to stick 2 blokes on Richo for all contests, this should free up others to create other leading targets, our mids should then use the other options, Richo becomes an decoy option only until the opposition cottons on ... and then we can go back to kicking it to Richo in a one on one contest which he is liklely to win 8 times out of 10...
Simple really ;D
HF: Brown Jack White/Tambling
FF: Nahas Richo Morton
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We know Richo permanently at FF doesn't work as our mids ignore our other forwards.
I am not suggesting we play richo at FF from now until he hangs up his boots
I am suggesting it for this week. It is also about how we play Richo at FF and what plan we use
Now if it was up to me the plan would be this:
Plonk the big bloke at FF. Instruct our mids to honour the first 2 Richo leads no matter what, ensure that our crumbers are somewhere around these contests. two things are likely to happen Richo marks the bloody thing or brings it ground (actually there is 3 - it could be kicked over his head ;D) As is usually the case with the opposition they are likely then to stick 2 blokes on Richo for all contests, this should free up others to create other leading targets, our mids should then use the other options, Richo becomes an decoy option only until the opposition cottons on ... and then we can go back to kicking it to Richo in a one on one contest which he is liklely to win 8 times out of 10...
Simple really ;D
It does sound so logical WP ;D. The problem is our mids have never known how to use Richo as a decoy when they should do. They still kick to Richo when he has 4 opponents hanging off him :P.
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Generally I would agree but Buddy can do it for Hawthorn, Pavlich can do it for Freo, Geelong dont need to worry about Richo cos their midfield is supreme, Bombers may use a Ryder, Bulldogs may use an Everitt doing the same thing....etc...Anyone who is tall and athletic and can run.
I do agree that we dont go back to richo at FF...the hff is a better possie probably...or just leave him there on the wing and instruct him to chase and tackle like the other 21 guys in the team...If his man starts doing a "Waite" on him, tell the Cho to go to FF (as much as we dont like it - Waite would have been out of his element at FB)
I can see what you Con and WP are getting at and they are fair points but IMO Carlton were able to exploit Richo because our whole midfield and backline were getting smashed and kept turning over the ball especially when under no physical pressure which gifted goals to the Blues. We could not get the ball forward in a coherent fashion to make Waite or any of the Carlton mids accountable. They didn't need to be as they were getting first to the ball. Why run back when the opposition are only getting the ball inside 50 eight times a quarter and the ball is in your forward half for majority of the game as it was for Carlton.
If we find by round 5 that even with us lifting our game as a team to the standard required that Richo's direct opponent each week is creating havoc then obviously a change will have to be made but I wouldn't do it yet based on the debacle of round 1. That's all I'm saying.
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from what has been said so far ...
Bowden will play ... (he did the media interviews, would look silly if he was dropped)
Nahas In, Graham In (i think Browne should play)
i would like to see Thomson play before Hislop, but looks like Hislop will play.
great to see Rance, looks like Rance is In.
Happy to hear McMahon under pressure, and looks like he will be dropped.
Cousins and Raines we know about.
In: Nahas, Graham, Rance, Hislop
Out: McMahon, Browne, Cousins, Raines
would like to see Polo in for Edwards, and Thomson in for Jackson.
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i would like to see Thomson play before Hislop, but looks like Hislop will play.
Thompson didn't play for Coburg on the weekend torch..... obviously some sort of injury so he isn't an option
I reckon Polo will get a gig ...well he should get a game..
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from what has been said so far ...
Bowden will play ... (he did the media interviews, would look silly if he was dropped)
Nahas In, Graham In (i think Browne should play)
i would like to see Thomson play before Hislop, but looks like Hislop will play.
great to see Rance, looks like Rance is In.
Happy to hear McMahon under pressure, and looks like he will be dropped.
Cousins and Raines we know about.
In: Nahas, Graham, Rance, Hislop
Out: McMahon, Browne, Cousins, Raines
would like to see Polo in for Edwards, and Thomson in for Jackson.
Mcmahon out. I will believe it when i see it.
Rance deserves a game and Mcmahon i hope never plays for our club again.
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from what has been said so far ...
Nahas In, Graham In (i think Browne should play)
Happy to hear McMahon under pressure, and looks like he will be dropped.
would like to see Polo in for Edwards, and Thomson in for Jackson.
What makes you think Graham is definately in? Was something said?
I think Rance will come in for McMahon and Polo for Raines. Nahas will come in for Cousins and Hislop for Edwards.
Jackson played a relatively good game. He will remain in his current role babysitting Ablett.
Stripes
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Jackson played a relatively good game. He will remain in his current role babysitting Ablett.
I feel for Jacko a bit here, first up Judd then Ablett and with these elites they are going to have an impact no matter how well tagged. This is expecially so when your team is kicking A.
Oh well if he is to be our No1 tagger this is what he has to put up with.
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Jackson played a relatively good game. He will remain in his current role babysitting Ablett.
I'd go with Jacko on Bartel and Polo on Jnr Ablett :thumbsup
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Jackson played a relatively good game. He will remain in his current role babysitting Ablett.
I'd go with Jacko on Bartel and Polo on Jnr Ablett :thumbsup
Selwood has almost jumped ahead of Bartel recently.... :-\
Stripes
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i think we should be more positive
tell our players to be first at the ball always and let them chase us for a change.
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Jackson must not play :-X
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Dean Polo is definitely in :thumbsup
The others going by training are Gus and Hislop. I'm presuming Nahas is in given he's been promoted. Not sure on Rance.
I don't know the outs apart from Cuz and Raines of course and Browne has been dropped.
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Not sure on Rance.
Geez, what does he have to do? :scream
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Not sure on Rance.
Geez, what does he have to do? :scream
Kick better ;)
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Not sure on Rance.
Geez, what does he have to do? :scream
Kick better ;)
You're right, it could be better, but he doesn't do any worse than half the blokes who played last week.
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Nahas cant play or are you thinking someone else may be put on the LTI list
Hoping
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You must have been a good boy to get that wish :)
Wont be hard for him to improve on the 20-3 tackle count in the F50 against us
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Polo is in.
Source - his mum
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Polo is in.
Source - his mum
His mum's an accurate source ;D
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Polo is in.
Source - his mum
His mum's an accurate source ;D
Clearly not.
RICHMOND
B: Chris Newman, Kelvin Moore, Jake King
HB: Joel Bowden, Luke McGuane, Matthew White
C: Shane Edwards, Shane Tuck, Daniel Jackson
HF: Nathan Brown, Matthew Richardson, Jack Riewoldt
F: Mitch Morton, Jay Schulz, Richard Tambling
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Brett Deledio, Nathan Foley
Int: Angus Graham, Tom Hislop, Robin Nahas, Alex Rance, ,
Emg: Andrew Collins, Dean Polo , Will Thursfield
In: A.Rance, J.King, T.Hislop, A.Graham, R.Nahas.
Out: B.Cousins (hamstring), A.Raines (knee), A.Browne, J. McMahon, W. Thursfield
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Polo is in.
Source - his mum
His mum's an accurate source ;D
You'd think so..... :whistle
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Polo is in.
Source - his mum
Give his mum the pimp-hand.
stuff me, what does he have to do. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Mcmahon has been dropped
BIGGEST WASTE OF SPACE TO EVER BE RECRUITED.
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Polo is in.
Source - his mum
His mum's an accurate source ;D
You'd think so..... :whistle
Well she probably was only saying what she was told :whistle
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Polo is in.
Source - his mum
His mum's an accurate source ;D
You'd think so..... :whistle
Looks like someone has to apologise to Dean's mum!! ;D
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Polo is in.
Source - his mum
His mum's an accurate source ;D
You'd think so..... :whistle
Looks like someone has to apologise to Dean's mum!! ;D
Not sure why the Club would pretend to hide the fact when everyone knew there'd be a change.