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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Hes My Hero on March 30, 2009, 06:04:45 PM
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Just a reminder that One Week at a Time is on HD 1 7:30 tonight.
I wonder if Richo is on tonight ?
Considering Judd is a special guest.
If he is, i sincerely hope it's not considered all smiles and giggles between Matthew and Chris.
If it is, he would basically be making a mockery of the pain that Thursday night dealt so many of us passionate supporters.
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One Week at a Time
7.30pm – 8.30pm One HD
Monday 30 March 2009
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Carlton's Chris Judd is special guest on the first episode of ONE's exclusive new weekly AFL show. Hosted by Stephen Quartermain with regular panelist Robert Walls as well as AFL stars Matthew Lloyd, Matthew Richardson and Tom Harley on a rotational panel.
Genre: Sport/AFL
Language: English
Rating: G
Other: High Definition
Duration: 60 mins
http://www.yourtv.com.au/guide/index.cfm?action=session_info&event_id=26580866®ion_id=94&sid=&loc=grid
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Cheers for the reminder HMH.
I think Harley is on the panel tonight but I'm not 100% sure. With Walls and Judd it sounds like it's going to be a Carlton love-fest :-X.
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yeah Harley is on this week
Ch10 news was advertsing it
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Richo is on next week's show. He'll be looking forward to that after this week and playing Geelong :help.
Not a bad show first up. Walls mentioned when he was coaching Richmond at the 'Gabba, Geisch, who was his assistant coach at the time as we know, tripped on the way to the coaches box just before the game started and the magnetic board and all the magnets went everywhere. So they had to coach the game not knowing who was on who while Geisch was picking all the magnets up. Well that explains everything :lol.
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Richo is on next week's show. He'll be looking forward to that after this week and playing Geelong :help.
Not a bad show first up. Walls mentioned when he was coaching Richmond at the 'Gabba, Geisch, who was his assistant coach at the time as we know, tripped on the way to the coaches box just before the game started and the magnetic board and all the magnets went everywhere. So they had to coach the game not knowing who was on who while Geisch was picking all the magnets up. Well that explains everything :lol.
regular occurance i would say.
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Geisch, who was his assistant coach at the time as we know, tripped on the way to the coaches box just before the game started and the magnetic board and all the magnets went everywhere. So they had to coach the game not knowing who was on who while Geisch was picking all the magnets up. Well that explains everything :lol.
Going by Thursdays performance, I think they're still trying to sort the magnets out. :lol
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Going by Thursdays performance, I think they're still trying to sort the magnets out. :lol
lol. :lol :lol :lol
Sadly I agree with your sig too wayne. Joel's day are numbered.
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Just a reminder that Richo is on tonight at 7.30pm on ONE-HD
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Summary of Richo tonight on OWAAT:
* On the Geelong game Richo said it was a fair comment by Quartermain that we probably didn't have the belief in the last quarter after getting a goal in front and went back into our shell a bit. A sign of a side that hasn't won too many games in recent years. Geelong with their winning record probably had that belief to get the job done.
* He's still enjoying his footy although he didn't enjoy it against Carlton last week. Playing as a key forward is becoming more and more difficult as players push back and flood so moving out to the wing has given him a new lease of life given the freedom and ability to stay involved in the game.
* Richo is currently overall 6th in dreamteam points after round 2. Richo said personally he's had a good past 18 months but he'd rather a couple of wins for the team than any dreamteam points.
* Regarding Adam Simpsom's comment that you don't know who you are on when you come back on the ground, Richo said you normally try asking the player who is coming off who they were on and you look at centre bounces to see who from the opposition is on the wing say. With today's game also you need be able to know how to play in various positions just in case you are moved around. If you're playing wing and don't know where you should be standing in the zone you can be in big trouble.
* Walls asked if Ben Cousins has been a distration to the players? Richo replied no he hasn't. We understood what it would be like when we brought Ben to the club and although that period before Christmas was hectic it's been fairly normal and he's just been one of the boys as the media aren't around the club.
* They showed a graphic where there were 161 articles on Cousins in the lead up to round 1 but just 11 prior to round 2.
* Richo said he had to go into the ruck at a centre bounce against Port and once Lade stuck his knee into his ribs that was enough. The boys had a laugh at Richo's expense but he wasn't laughing. Very dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.
* Richo asked Mick Malthouse about Presti and how he enjoyed the challenge of playing against him and that he is a underrated defender.
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Thanks OE!
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Great show, especially with Richo on it
I imagine it will be pretty boring with Lloyd on next week
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It wont be boring Infamy next week because they will be talking about Richmonds great win over the Bulldogs :thumbsup
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* On the Geelong game Richo said it was a fair comment by Quartermain that we probably didn't have the belief in the last quarter after getting a goal in front and went back into our shell a bit. A sign of a side that hasn't won too many games in recent years. Geelong with their winning record probably had that belief to get the job done.
We've got to break out of this lack of confidence mentality somehow against the top sides. It's almost a fear of failure. Not wanting to take risks which got us in front in the first place for fear of stuffing up and losing the game which ironically actually leads to us losing the game. It cost us the win against the Dogs last year in the 5 minutes when we coughed up a 19 point lead. We can't do that again this time around.
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* On the Geelong game Richo said it was a fair comment by Quartermain that we probably didn't have the belief in the last quarter after getting a goal in front and went back into our shell a bit. A sign of a side that hasn't won too many games in recent years. Geelong with their winning record probably had that belief to get the job done.
We've got to break out of this lack of confidence mentality somehow against the top sides. It's almost a fear of failure. Not wanting to take risks which got us in front in the first place for fear of stuffing up and losing the game which ironically actually leads to us losing the game. It cost us the win against the Dogs last year in the 5 minutes when we coughed up a 19 point lead. We can't do that again this time around.
I think there is a fair bit in what you say MT. We do seem to play with stage fright against certain (mostly the better) clubs and it has been that way for a number of years (the same clubs) suggesting that we do have mental blocks playing them. Geelong, Sydney, Nth Melbourne and St Kilda all spring to mind.
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RE Bulldogs game MT-I wish it was 5 min that we coughed up a 19 point lead but it was closer to 3 minutes.Still keeps me up at night. lol
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LOL yep mat that and the Saints games cost us a finals spot last year :scream.
I think there is a fair bit in what you say MT. We do seem to play with stage fright against certain (mostly the better) clubs and it has been that way for a number of years (the same clubs) suggesting that we do have mental blocks playing them. Geelong, Sydney, Nth Melbourne and St Kilda all spring to mind.
We'll find out by round 6 if anything has changed in regard to North and the Swans. After losing our first two games we can't afford the same old stagefright and being so easily outmuscled :-\.
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Did anyone watch OWAAT tonight?
I only caught a glimpse of what Walls was saying about us but did he have a cross against Cotch's name in that list of 12 Tigers missing from the side ???. I think he had crosses for Cogs and Cousins I think too. He had just two ticks but they took the graphic down before I got a decent look. Can anyone fill in what was said?
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Did anyone watch OWAAT tonight?
I only caught a glimpse of what Walls was saying about us but did he have a cross against Cotch's name in that list of 12 Tigers missing from the side ???. I think he had crosses for Cogs and Cousins I think too. He had just two ticks but they took the graphic down before I got a decent look. Can anyone fill in what was said?
It was probably a flow on from what they were talking about on 3AW yesterday. In that they listed senior players who are currently not playing for Richmond and if they were playing would they make any difference. Yesterday Walls said only Cotch, Thursfield and perhaps Cogs would. tony Shaw said only Cotch and Thursfield would and the jury was out on Edwards- he then went onto say that he has been saying for 3 years he doesn't rate our list and now everyone else was agreeing with him
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Did anyone watch OWAAT tonight?
I only caught a glimpse of what Walls was saying about us but did he have a cross against Cotch's name in that list of 12 Tigers missing from the side ???. I think he had crosses for Cogs and Cousins I think too. He had just two ticks but they took the graphic down before I got a decent look. Can anyone fill in what was said?
It was probably a flow on from what they were talking about on 3AW yesterday. In that they listed senior players who are currently not playing for Richmond and if they were playing would they make any difference. Yesterday Walls said only Cotch, Thursfield and perhaps Cogs would. tony Shaw said only Cotch and Thursfield would and the jury was out on Edwards- he then went onto say that he has been saying for 3 years he doesn't rate our list and now everyone else was agreeing with him
tony shaw has the same brain matter as one particular person on here. :lol
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tony shaw has the same brain matter as one particular person on here. :lol
Sadly tony is basking in his self appointed glory at the minute
Geez if that isn't enough to inspire the blokes on the field to stick it right up the little twirp I dont' what more can be done ;D
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Too bad Shaw didn't have this foresight when he was coach and while being Spud's mentor ::).
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Richo's turn again tonight on the show with Quartermain and Walls.
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Good on them starting the show with Cogs and the boys singing of the song :clapping. They showed it twice. Great stuff :thumbsup
Richo is very comfortable on tellie now. Well spoken and freely offers his opinion. A big change to his early days on the footy show where he'd hardly say boo.
One thing Richo did say was we've stripped the gameplan right back to the basics. Whitey mentioned something similar on the radio earlier tonight. Why didn't we start the season with this simpler style of play as it suits us and it's what we used successfully in the second half of last year :-\.
Btw Quarters thinks we will still make the Eight as we're only a game out and we still have Cotch, Cuz, Raines to come back. Walls looked at him like his was an idiot. Said we need them plus Simmo and Browny to rediscover their best footy. Richo smartly stayed out of it.
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why can't we make the finals?
seriously! it is like Richmond's 09 is over!
its not, five more losses and its over!
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A reminder Richo is on tonight's show at 7.30pm.
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Summary of tonight's show
* They showed 3 incidents in the last 5 minutes that cost us the game: Twice Port forwards left on their own goal side of the pack as the ball came in and was contested and then Morton running around the man on the mark and kicking it out on the full.
* Richo said Crawf is in the media now and is entitled to his opinion. He was disappointed Crawf didn't provide examples and some substance to his view. Richo defended Sugar and Cuz specifically as team players. Sugar's been injured and was voted captain by the players while Ben was obviously a team player at the Eagles. Richo said you could similarly defend all the 30+ year olds.
* His recovery is going as planned so he won't be going to Germany. We'll look again at how he's going in a couple of weeks. They cut right along the groove under his bum so he still needs a cushion to sit down and he stood during the ad breaks.
* They got onto Josh Fraser (who was the guest) and Grant Thomas' 'dogging' comment. Richo said every player sometime during their footy career hasn't gone as hard as they could. Sometimes you think that must look really bad but when you see it on TV it doesn't look as bad. They showed Polo running off his line and allowing Surgan to take that mark running back with the flight for which Deano got dragged by Terry. Richo defended Polo saying Dean would know he did wrong and he's actually known for being a tough player.
* When Walls was coach Richo would stare out of the window to look at the Nylex clock and then cop a spray for not paying attention.
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Not too much about us tonight....
* Walls said Newman was very good and lead from the front in that first half. Richo and everyone at Richmond respects him so Walls said he would go again with Newman.
* They played a grab from Luke Darcy after the game saying all 6 oldies should go. They compared it to Blight walking into Adelaide and clearing out their old club favourites.
* Lloyd brought up our goal celebrations (Morton, Petts, Polo). Walls said although Petts celebrates kicking a goal whether we are 10 goals up or down he said it was noticable it was manufactured to get the crowd going. Emotion only takes you so far. Lloyd added that they thought they had us even when we were in front by 3 goals. You could sense the momentum change. Richmond had 14-1 clearances in the first half. Essendon's midfield coach ripped into the Bombers at half-time and they turned it around.
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..he said it was noticable it was manufactured to get the crowd going.
Bloody mind readers - I love 'em.
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Emotion only takes you so far. .......
Essendon's midfield coach ripped into the Bombers at half-time and they turned it around.
Obviously emotion worked that time ?
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Lloyd added that they thought they had us even when we were in front by 3 goals. You could sense the momentum change
what a dumb idiot.
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It should be all about Richmond tonight.
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hahahahaha
They showed all our draft picks since 2004. All but Tambling, and the jury is still out on him, have FAILED.
yet some of you still persist he has done a good job.
stuff HIM
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hahahahaha
They showed all our draft picks since 2004. All but Tambling, and the jury is still out on him, have FAILED.
yet some of you still persist he has done a good job.
eff HIM
So are you saying Danny that they said Deledio has failed?
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the recruiting that the showed looked poor, thanks Terry
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hahahahaha
They showed all our draft picks since 2004. All but Tambling, and the jury is still out on him, have FAILED.
yet some of you still persist he has done a good job.
eff HIM
So are you saying Danny that they said Deledio has failed?
no not Lids he is and will be a Gem but the rest of them come on. He cant be appluaded for bringing that rubbish to our club
WP WHY DOES HE BRING UP THE BULDOGS, SERIOUSLY THAT IS SO TERRY. LIVING IN THE PAST.
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What?
Jon and Hughes prob have failed
Cotchin, Riewoldt, Polo, McGuane, Collins, Rance have all been positive for mine.
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They only included what they considered "misses" so Lids, Cotch and rookies weren't put up in the graphic. Everyone carries on about 2004 but it was the 2005 draft that really hurt Plough. Gus (rookie) and Whitey (PSD) may give us something from that year in the long run but it was a disaster of a National draft. We had too few picks to begin with for a rebuilding club so we couldn't afford any mistakes in selections. In the end all 3 selections have been misses so effectively it was a missed draft. 14 of the top 20 that year have cemented themselves now in their club's best 22. We were on of the few clubs who struck out :P.
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we dont get that channel here ;D us poor bush people cant afford HD ;D
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Richo is guest co-host on One Week At A Time tonight at 7.30pm.
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Brief Summary
* Walls was critical of Jacko making public his thoughts on who should be the next coach. Richo said it's better as a player not to get involved in who the club chooses as coach.
* Walls believes the Richmond Board genuinely doesn't know yet who'll be coach next year and will go through the process.
* Richo has no doubt Joel Bowden will work hard at Coburg and be back. Anthony Hudson brought up Joel is 3rd in disposals yet 13th or something around that mark in tackles. Richo wouldn't comment on why Joel was dropped.
* Richo didn't get into the rooms after the game for the song because he didn't have an official player/club official pass lol.
* Jackson would be leading our B&F. He was our best performer over preseason winning all the runs. He's obviously got himself big and strong now and is reaping the benefits. They showed a graphic of all Jacko's opponents and scalps - from Judd, Selwood, Cooney, Pavlich and then Kerr on Saturday night.
* Richo said Cuz is teaching our young guys to be selfless. If you work hard off the ball for the team you'll be rewarded. Richo said Cuz has outshone even Richo's expectations being a team player. You always knew Ben was a team player as an opponent but you don't get a full insight into how much he is until you see it first hand. On current form you'd think he'll go round again next year. Richo said Ben always has a footy in his hands - at team meetings, etc - everywhere. That probably explains why he has such good ballskills. Walls said Buckley was the same. Walls said he wishes Ben well but he wouldn't have taken Ben in the first place if he was Richmond as we won't be a top 4 side over the next 4-5 years and as a 31 year old he's obviously taking the spot of a young kid who is part of the future.
* They showed vision of Cuz walking into the Dome and the changerooms and looking up at the camera and having a wry grin on his face.
* Richo saw the surgeon today and he was rapt with how the hammy is going. It's now expected Richo will play the last 3-4 weeks of the season. He's progressing well with the running and working on a bit of acceleration now. A final decision on next year won't be made until the end of the season.
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* Richo didn't get into the rooms after the game for the song because he didn't have an official player/club official pass lol.
Damn security ;D
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* Walls said he wishes Ben well but he wouldn't have taken Ben in the first place if he was Richmond as we won't be a top 4 side over the next 4-5 years and as a 31 year old he's obviously taking the spot of a young kid who is part of the future.
Geez Wallsy, don't you see the value that Cousins is having on the kids we have??
We have an elite mid-fielder teaching our boys how to play in the middle!!
Tossa!
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* Walls said he wishes Ben well but he wouldn't have taken Ben in the first place if he was Richmond as we won't be a top 4 side over the next 4-5 years and as a 31 year old he's obviously taking the spot of a young kid who is part of the future.
Geez Wallsy, don't you see the value that Cousins is having on the kids we have??
We have an elite mid-fielder teaching our boys how to play in the middle!!
Tossa!
Exactly.
Saw Ben having a chat to Jacko in the rooms just before they ran out Sat night, it was reasonable to think he was telling Dan how to play Kerr......and it worked.
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Richo is on tonight's show now with Quartermain and Walls.
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Richo said he's ahead of schedule in his comeback. He's expecting to be back around round 18 where he'll play first up with Coburg. He's been sprinting for the past 7 days and so far so good with the hammy.
As far as playing on next year he just has to first wait to see how he gets through the last few rounds this season and then what is happening with the Club (re: new coach).
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Richo is on tonight's show with Quartermain and Walls.
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Steve Quartermaine must have got a promotion. He's got epaulets on his shirt.
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Richo said tonight he's two weeks away. Needs to get through the next 2 weeks of training and he'll play round 18.
He said we went into our shell after half-time. Rawlings encourages us to play on and play with natural flair but we simply stopped running. He also believed Crocker was playing North players out of position in the first half with Petrie and Harvey in the backline, Gibson in the midfield, and Rawlings in a forward pocket on Nahas. Richo expected Gibson to play on our current No.1 forward in Riewoldt. Once Gibson went onto Jack after half-time Jack was quietened down.
Quarters mentioned that Post reminded him of a young Richo which made Richo grin. Richo just said our supporters would be happy to see the young guys like Post and Vickery playing. The future isn't looking too bad.
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Just a reminder that Richo is on the panel tonight with Quarterman and Walls at 7.30pm on ONE.
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Richo said he's just having scans tomorrow as a precaution to make sure the tendon he had the operation on is still 100%. He won't play this week obviously and they'll assess it from there.
Richo also supports a lottery system for the bottom 4 teams in the draft and no priority pick.
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Just a heads up that Chris Newman will be on next week's show.
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Good lord. :o
Next thing you know "Before the Game" will have run out of Carltank players to drool over and will have a Tiger on.
Oh hang a pig just flew past my window......
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Just a heads up that Chris Newman will be on next week's show.
Bump.
Newy coming up on One HD at 7.30pm
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i am a bit worried!
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Summary:
* Joel - terrific clubman and family man. Learnt a lot from him playing in the backline with him. The one guy I could turn to in footy and in life.
* Maxwell - Disappointed in his comments. He should have showed some humility given they won by 93 points but he chose to rub our noses in it. Disappointing to accuse us of going out and go for the man. We didn't and as captain he wouldn't allow it. Not sure if he was trying to be controversial on gameday to grab attention. You wouldn't see Lloyd or Judd make those comments as captain.
* Captaincy - been a few kicks in the guts this year but in saying that it's accelerated his leadership abilities. Lloyd said something similar happened to him in his first year winning just 3 games.
* Culture - going to take time to change it to a winning one. Right people and things in place now to go forward into the future. Personally as captain he needed to stay strong. The team doesn't need a captain who doesn't perform on the field. Lloyd said you feel you need to be everything to everyone. Just stay true to yourself and be yourself.
* Cousins - Never experienced something like that getting a Cousins to the club. We felt we had made strides last year so we were excited. Momentum came to a grinding halt in round 1. Not a reflection on Ben. He's been a great addition.
* Round 1 - yeah it didn't get the season off to the way we wanted after coming into the seeason with great expectations but we played fairly well the following week against Geelong. So he doesn't believe it impacted on the rest of the season.
* Sugar, Cambo and Cuz he's learnt the most from. Feels he's developed himself more as a person. Never forget the sensation down your spine leading the boys on the MCG.
* New coach - Not sure. names such as Hardwick, Hinkley and Rawlings been thrown up.
* Rawlings vs Wallace - don't want to compare. Jade has handled the role well given the situation and pressures.
They then put up a graphic - failed early picks?
schulz - #12
gilmour - #21
tambling - #4
Meyer - #12
Polo - #20
JON - #8
Newy doesn't think all those on that list are lost.
Walls said it's also what you do to develop them.
* Development coaches? Newy feels we have the people and resources now. The off-field has improved.
* Sheedy? Newy hasn't see him around the club apart from a few functions.
* Browny, Richo's future? Waiting game. Great players to have around the club. Hopefully they get to stay around. Thought Browny had put his hand up and played some good footy.
* Needs going forward? Need someone up forward but whichever guys are around at that stage (our picks) we need to go with best available.
Walls:
Cuz - keep
Richo - they would burn the grandstand down if the new coach got rid of him.
Browny - career over.
Walls - When Blight took over the crows and got rid of much loved senior players they won two flags straight away. They already had the talent there. So a different scenario to Richmond which doesn't have the talent. Richmond won't win a flag in 5 years.
Newy said Browny's had problems with his groin all year but he's done his most to get back on the park.
* Steve Wright - he's done a terrific job. With the redevelopment. He was a big part of that.
* Fev - they brought up the chat after Fev kicked that goal and that Newy and Fev are best mates.
* Petts' dad - Found out midday. Kayne is doing it tough. Had a shocker of a year (with the kneecap). Newy knew Mike Pettifer personally as well.
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A little bit more....
* Last two weeks? - Need to show some spirit. Pretty lifeless the last two weeks. Show the supporters we are developing as a group.
* Yep expecting a tough preseason from the new coach. Need it too.
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I'm impressed with Newmans comments regarding Maxwell. He is right, a real captain would not have made those comments. Just makes you hate the Pies even more now doesn't it! >:(
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I'm impressed with Newmans comments regarding Maxwell. He is right, a real captain would not have made those comments. Just makes you hate the Pies even more now doesn't it! >:(
Yes!
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Richo - they would burn the grandstand down if the new coach got rid of him.
I don't think this would the case anymore.
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Thought Chris Newman was sensational tonight, well done :clapping
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Thought Chris Newman was sensational tonight, well done :clapping
Is that sarcasm i detect ? ::)
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Thought Chris Newman was sensational tonight, well done :clapping
Is that sarcasm i detect ? ::)
No idiot, thought the interview was really good.
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he did handle himself quite well considering I commented just recently that he never looked comfortable in the role...he was cool and measured in his response...I think he has alot of respect out there...prob more than I gave him credit for...still wouldn't suprise if new coach appointed a NEW captian
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Thought Chris Newman was sensational tonight, well done :clapping
Is that sarcasm i detect ? ::)
No idiot, thought the interview was really good.
Are you for real ?
1 simple question only requires 1 simple answer, no need for name calling.
But then i suppose it's a quiet night.
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Thought Chris Newman was sensational tonight, well done :clapping
Is that sarcasm i detect ? ::)
No idiot, thought the interview was really good.
Are you for real ?
1 simple question only requires 1 simple answer, no need for name calling.
But then i suppose it's a quiet night.
I must apologiize then, sorry.
I thought you were just another NUFFER ;)
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Newy said he's had problems with his groin all year but he's done his most to get back on the park.
Just to clarify, pretty sure he was talking about Browny here, not himself
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Newy said he's had problems with his groin all year but he's done his most to get back on the park.
Just to clarify, pretty sure he was talking about Browny here, not himself
Ta Infamy. Yeah he was talking about Browny. I've edited the original summary.
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I'm impressed with Newman's comments regarding Maxwell. He is right, a real captain would not have made those comments. Just makes you hate the Pies even more now doesn't it! >:(
No. Hating more not possible on a quantum level.
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First show for 2010. The only mention of Richmond on tonight's show has of course been on about Cousins.
Walls said Matty White who was an emergency should have played instead of Cousins. This is Cousins' last year of footy whereas White will be around in 5-6 years time when Richmond will be up there. There's no point playing 30 year old players when you'll be a bottom two side for the next 2-3 years. Same goes for Simmonds. Vickery should be given as much time to become first ruck.
Darcy said Richmond's list is in such a mess it won't be just a 2-3 year job. There's a lot of pain to come for Tigers' fans and it'll be 5-6 years before they become any good because it's the wrong time to be down the bottom and rebuilding with the new teams coming in.
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If White is still around in 5-6 years time god help us.
Also, in regards to what Darcy is saying, 5-6 years time? Most of Geelongs guns will be retired or close to it, Dogs, Saints, Pies etc. They won't be the same teams as they are now.
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If White is still around in 5-6 years time god help us.
Thought the same thing wayne. I almost spilled my cuppa when Walls said Whitey should have played instead of Cuz. I think we've got too many dodgy kicks who can't find a target in the senior side as it is without adding another :help.
This talk about it being the wrong time to be down the bottom is garbage. The bottom side still ends up with pick 4 and pretty much draft picks not so different from a normal draft ( 4, 27, 44, etc). The key is to trade for another decent pick and of course our recruiters doing their job and selecting the right kids. We heard the same armageddon talk from the media about the 2009 draft and how weak it was to be with a third of the kids missing. Early days but yeah the 2009 kids like Martin are such duds ::). Free agency will also alter things and smart clubs especially those paying just 92.5% of the salary cap will take advantage of it to add more quality and experience to their list to help kick along the rebuild. There's too many variables to know what will happen in 3 years time let alone 5-6 years.
I remember walking out of Waverley after our loss to North in round 1, 1992 thinking sheesh we'll be a bottom side forever yet 3 years later we won 11 of our first 12 games and played finals. Footy can change quickly if the right people in charge make the right decisions (which we've never had for 30+ years). 5 years worth of draft picks alone (done properly) is at least 30 new players which is practically a new list. Even 3 years is around 15-20 new players. 3 years ago Bomber Thompson was close to getting the sack, reigning premiers West Coast had Judd and Cousins, and Hawthorn was playing this handball ring-a-rosy crap with the media bagging Clarkson.
We've got a young inexperienced list. We're going to struggle big time this year and most likely next year as well. However if we are still a bottom side in 4 years time then those in charge will not have done their job.
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Good post MT. I think those sentiments all the time. The footy landscape changes all the time and sometimes very quickly. AS we know todays newspapers are tomorrows fish and chip wrappers, it is such a pity that journalists in this town are now trying to be bigger than rock stars, how did so many of them end up on television and on radio?
Anybody would think the bottom teams won't be drafting anybody and actually it is an insult to the kids coming along in the next two drafts because the media are basically saying anybody not in the top 10-15 will be duds.
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It should be a pretty strong draft year this year too given they keep increasing the draft age. I know the Gold Coast got some bottom agers last year in advance, but there will be others who develop over this season who weren't on the radar before.
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Could be a gold mine with some mature age rookies this season with shrewd scouting.
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Luke Darcy wants a midseason draft reintroduced and they had a pic of Jordie in a Saints guernsey as he won't play again for Richmond. Most Tiger supporters would probably be happy with that :yep
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Most Tiger supporters would probably be happy with that :yep
For a first round pick :yep
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Walls sooking tonight that Stephen Baker received 12 weeks while Jack Riewoldt didn't get reported for knocking Tayte Pears hand once.
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Walls can not stand the Tigers and seems to have something against Jack. This is the second week in a row he has ignored Jacks mark over an inferior one where other panel members have voiced there obvious surprize at his choice. :o
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Walls sooking tonight that Stephen Baker received 12 weeks while Jack Riewoldt didn't get reported for knocking Tayte Pears hand once.
Also didn't want to give Jack mark of the week.
Must have a bee in his bonnet that we're on the up.
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Walls sooking tonight that Stephen Baker received 12 weeks while Jack Riewoldt didn't get reported for knocking Tayte Pears hand once.
Mark Fein on sen was brooding like a spoilt child... :wallywink
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For what it's worth......
Quartermain tonight reckons Cuz has played his last game. Darcy doesn't see him going on after this year. Walls said he's contributing but given 16 of his 21 possessions were handballs he can't break away from packs anymore and is more setting up others now. Long term it won't matter as the future is Martin and co.
Walls said our win was the best win by any team this year. They showed the key moments of the comeback - Martin's goal from the stoppage, Jack's mark running back with the flight of the ball, Collo being knocked out and then coming back to kick the last two winning goals.
The gameplan is now kick longer and why wouldn't you with Reiwoldt up forward, hunt the ball on the ground, they have a settled defence - Astbury looks comfortable back there, Thursty is playing well again and the captain Newman had a great last quarter kicking two goals.
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Walls can not stand the Tigers and seems to have something against Jack. This is the second week in a row he has ignored Jacks mark over an inferior one where other panel members have voiced there obvious surprize at his choice. :o
Jeff Geishien & Robert Walls hate the Tigers cause they both got the ass when they thought the club (RFC) really needed them.
Sour Grapes. ;D
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Walls loves Jacko though so I guess that's something.
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The media are loving rubbing in that Essendon bypassed Hardwick as coach lol. Although Darcy said Essendon's list is better than Richmond's. Hmmm that's not what the ladder says Luke with 5 wins a piece and with the Tiges likely to jump above the Dons after this weekend.
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The media are loving rubbing in that Essendon bypassed Hardwick as coach lol. Although Darcy said Essendon's list is better than Richmond's. Hmmm that's not what the ladder says Luke with 5 wins a piece and with the Tiges likely to jump above the Dons after this weekend.
Some people in the media can not get past their hated of Richmond and/or deep seated belief we will never be successful.
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The media are loving rubbing in that Essendon bypassed Hardwick as coach lol. Although Darcy said Essendon's list is better than Richmond's. Hmmm that's not what the ladder says Luke with 5 wins a piece and with the Tiges likely to jump above the Dons after this weekend.
yeah right....
How does their HB line compare to Lids Newy and Connors, where do I look to see an equivalent to Cotch, martin and Foley, and I havent even mentioned Jack the Ripper....they have us in the rucks but Gus is closing the gap
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The media are loving rubbing in that Essendon bypassed Hardwick as coach lol. Although Darcy said Essendon's list is better than Richmond's. Hmmm that's not what the ladder says Luke with 5 wins a piece and with the Tiges likely to jump above the Dons after this weekend.
Some people in the media can not get past their hated of Richmond and/or deep seated belief we will never be successful.
Some media can see the quality of kids we have, others, like Darcy, think we're winning on the back of some Richmond equivalent to 'shinboner spirit'.
The Dons list is atrocious.
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Walls' brief [ed. understatement] summary of Richmond's season
* Enthusiasm and unity. Happiest bottom 4 side he's seen.
* Poor skill level. It killed the Tigers yesterday. Something Hardwick will obviously work on.
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Walls' brief [ed. understatement] summary of Richmond's season
* Poor skill level. It killed the Tigers yesterday. Something Hardwick will obviously work on.
I put it down to poor decision making as well.
When we follow the game plan and make the right decisions, our skills look fine.
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Walls was just asked by Quartermain who out of the Eagles, Demons and Tigers could make the Eight this year and he said us :o.
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Walls was just asked by Quartermain who out of the Eagles, Demons and Tigers could make the Eight this year and he said us :o.
I would put Eagles chances higher then ours. I think we have just as much chance as demon's do.
But I personally dont think we'll make the finals this year and I wouldn't think thats a bad thing. If we do people could get ahead of them selfs with where we are at.
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Walls has sh|t for brains, and quarter brain wouldn't know which end of his torso to wipe
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Walls was just asked by Quartermain who out of the Eagles, Demons and Tigers could make the Eight this year and he said us :o.
I would put Eagles chances higher then ours. I think we have just as much chance as demon's do.
But I personally dont think we'll make the finals this year and I wouldn't think thats a bad thing. If we do people could get ahead of them selfs with where we are at.
Agree tiger. West Coast would now be the more fancied out of the three clubs. They still have a number of their old premiership players still around and this year back in form.
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* Poor skill level. It killed the Tigers yesterday. Something Hardwick will obviously work on.
Agree there were bad skills at times but they're 100% on what we were dishing up this time last year. Slowly but surely.
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Walls was just asked by Quartermain who out of the Eagles, Demons and Tigers could make the Eight this year and he said us :o.
I would put Eagles chances higher then ours. I think we have just as much chance as demon's do.
But I personally dont think we'll make the finals this year and I wouldn't think thats a bad thing. If we do people could get ahead of them selfs with where we are at.
Agree tiger. West Coast would now be the more fancied out of the three clubs. They still have a number of their old premiership players still around and this year back in form.
They also have more of a home ground advantage throughout the season.
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I think we'll beat the Eagles. Whether we can make the 8 though I'm not sure.
If we have some luck on the injury front it's definitely possible.
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Walls has sh|t for brains, and quarter brain wouldn't know which end of his torso to wipe
He is just hilarious Walls. One week he'll declare a team premiership contenders, the next he'll say that they'll struggle to make the 8. He really is that pathetic.
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Walls has sh|t for brains, and quarter brain wouldn't know which end of his torso to wipe
He is just hilarious Walls. One week he'll declare a team premiership contenders, the next he'll say that they'll struggle to make the 8. He really is that pathetic.
as much as I liked channel 10 coverage of footy I cant stand Walls. I hope noone picks him up in the new deal.
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I think we'll beat the Eagles. Whether we can make the 8 though I'm not sure.
If we have some luck on the injury front it's definitely possible.
Watching Perth on the weekend, their zone and forward pressure was very, very good, at least in the first half. Even Priddis got a few possies forward of centre. We cannot afford to play crazy fast football in the first quarter against them, they'll carve us up with forced turnovers.
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I think we'll beat the Eagles. Whether we can make the 8 though I'm not sure.
If we have some luck on the injury front it's definitely possible.
Watching Perth on the weekend, their zone and forward pressure was very, very good, at least in the first half. Even Priddis got a few possies forward of centre. We cannot afford to play crazy fast football in the first quarter against them, they'll carve us up with forced turnovers.
The whole point of the fast moving game plan is to get through the zone. When you move the ball quickly the opposition cannot move towards the player quick enough. A ball moving through the air will always be faster than a player running.
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Walls has sh|t for brains, and quarter brain wouldn't know which end of his torso to wipe
He is just hilarious Walls. One week he'll declare a team premiership contenders, the next he'll say that they'll struggle to make the 8. He really is that pathetic.
He is the biggest idiot commentator going around Shaw is a close second. I recall the year after we lost to Port in the NAB cup GF we were playing in round 1 and Walls was commentating and stating throughout the call that Richo needs to be plonked in the square and is wasted playing up the ground. Funnily enough straight after that game it showed a replay of the Richmond Port game from the previous year when Richo was a stay at home bulkier FFF and Walls was bemoaning the fact that Richo needs to run and be free and shouldnt be left to rot in the goal square *facepalm* lmfaooooo ;D
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I think we'll beat the Eagles. Whether we can make the 8 though I'm not sure.
If we have some luck on the injury front it's definitely possible.
Watching Perth on the weekend, their zone and forward pressure was very, very good, at least in the first half. Even Priddis got a few possies forward of centre. We cannot afford to play crazy fast football in the first quarter against them, they'll carve us up with forced turnovers.
Pretty sure Dimma said on SEN that we were in the top3 or thereabouts for opposition turnovers in our Forward Half, so our Zone/Pressure is working a treat when we get it right, it's when they get it through that we get caught out and scored easily against.
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Not sure if we should be worried but Walls is on the Tiger bandwagon now. He praised our win and said tonight we are the most enthusiastic side in the AFL right at the minute.
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Not sure if we should be worried but Walls is on the Tiger bandwagon now. He praised our win and said tonight we are the most enthusiastic side in the AFL right at the minute.
I can't stand Walls. Should never have been @ Richmond and whoever was responsible for convincing him should never be allowed back @ the club.
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I can't stand Walls. Should never have been @ Richmond and whoever was responsible for convincing him should never be allowed back @ the club.
You want to ban Leon Daphne from the Club after everything he did for it? :o ::)
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maybe just hit him in the head with a black pudding?
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Walls was asked to rate the teams up to round 10:
A: Collingwood, Geelong
B: Hawthorn, Geelong
C+: Essendon, Sydney, Bulldogs, St Kilda, West Coast
C: Richmond, Fremantle, Melbourne, Adelaide, Port, North, Brisbane and Gold Coast.
Just shows what one bad loss does to your reputation :-\.
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Walls was asked to rate the teams up to round 10:
A: Collingwood, Geelong
B: Hawthorn, Geelong
C+: Essendon, Sydney, Bulldogs, St Kilda, West Coast
C: Richmond, Fremantle, Melbourne, Adelaide, Port, North, Brisbane and Gold Coast.
Just shows what one bad loss does to your reputation :-\.
there goes serial flip flopper Wallsy again ;D last week we are likely to play finals :lol
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haha umpires now appear in footy cards.
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Walls was asked to rate the teams up to round 10:
A: Collingwood, Geelong
B: Hawthorn, Geelong
C+: Essendon, Sydney, Bulldogs, St Kilda, West Coast
C: Richmond, Fremantle, Melbourne, Adelaide, Port, North, Brisbane and Gold Coast.
Just shows what one bad loss does to your reputation :-\.
St. Kilda and the Bullflogs should have gotten F's. They were meant to be top 4, challenging for a flag.
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Walls was asked to rate the teams up to round 10:
A: Collingwood, Geelong
B: Hawthorn, Geelong
C+: Essendon, Sydney, Bulldogs, St Kilda, West Coast
C: Richmond, Fremantle, Melbourne, Adelaide, Port, North, Brisbane and Gold Coast.
Just shows what one bad loss does to your reputation :-\.
St. Kilda and the Bullflogs should have gotten F's. They were meant to be top 4, challenging for a flag.
LOL...absolutely they should have. Why is Geelong in there twice...A and B...what a tool Walls is. He jumps on and off teams like a low price hooker but one thing is for sure...he always hates Richmond and he finds it hard when we win.
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Walls was asked to rate the teams up to round 10:
A: Collingwood, Geelong
B: Hawthorn, Geelong
C+: Essendon, Sydney, Bulldogs, St Kilda, West Coast
C: Richmond, Fremantle, Melbourne, Adelaide, Port, North, Brisbane and Gold Coast.
Just shows what one bad loss does to your reputation :-\.
St. Kilda and the Bullflogs should have gotten F's. They were meant to be top 4, challenging for a flag.
LOL...absolutely they should have. Why is Geelong in there twice...A and B...what a tool Walls is. He jumps on and off teams like a low price hooker but one thing is for sure...he always hates Richmond and he finds it hard when we win.
And apparently doesn't rate Carlton at all! :lol
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A little bit on the Tigers tonight.
* Martin is worth his weight in gold. Can get a bag of possies in the midfield and then play across HF/FF and kick a bags of goals even from long distances given he's a whopping great long kick.
* Lids having his best year. Walls said it helps Lids that he's playing in the best Richmond team he's played in and now can burst and run through the lines away from opponents and run forward and kick goals.
* They asked Petrie who out of Cotch, Martin and Lids do you worry about at North when we got hold of them earlier in the season. He said they all got hold of them in the last quarter. North knew we would be running hard in the last quarter but there wasn't anything they could do about it thanks to those 3 players.
* They then showed that dopey ump pinging Jacko for holding because he went in to help Nahas wrestle against 4 Lions. Quartermain said it was the worst umpiring decision of the year.
* The last thing they showed was Jonathan Brown sliding into the nether region of BrownE and big Andy going down like a sack of potatoes lol.
ps. Lloyd is dressed from the wardrobe of the 70s movie Saturday Night Fever :laugh: