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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne on May 19, 2009, 10:16:45 AM
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Wallace, Richmond part ways
EXCLUSIVE: RICHMOND and its coach Terry Wallace may have parted ways after a series of meetings yesterday and last night. It is believed the players were upset about Wallace's post-match critique of the team after Sunday's loss to Port Adelaide.
Wallace did not return calls from the Herald Sun last night.
Players spoke to Wallace about the closed-doors address yesterday.
The veteran coach was not immediately available for comment, failing even to return calls from close friends last night and this morning.
Wallace has been under enormous pressure since an embarrassing loss to Carlton in Round 1, with Richmond languishing in 15th position with just one win.
Wallace did not arrive at the club's Punt Rd headquarters today by his usual time of 8.30am.
Richmond assistant coaches David King, Craig McRae, Wayne Campbell and Jade Rawlings arrived at Punt Rd this morning unaware any decision on the head coach had been made.
Wallace is in the fifth year of a five-year contract and was no chance to coach the team in 2010.
It is known that Wallace met with Richmond chief executive Steven Wright late last night.
Wallace only last week went on radio and declared he wanted to coach out the year.
In the same interview he said he would not put up a fight if the club decided to end his tenure early.
Richmond president Gary March, Wallace and Wallace's closet football friend, Brian Royal, were not answering their phones this morning.
The club is due to train at its Punt Rd home at 11am.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25505197-19742,00.html
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and good riddons to him..
whoever said the players still had faith in him were kidding themselves. Its obvious now he has lost them if you read into Newy's comments
He has left us in a mess
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bit of a shock to happen after all the news suggested we would wait.
Something deep must have happened after Sunday's game in the room.
AND THE WINNER IS........... W CAMPBELL 3 VOTES
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I will wait till it is written on the walls so we really know he is gone.
But I did think after Sunday he might have been shown the door as this was our to keep but we caved in again.
So disappointing to see our lead get withered away and lose it.
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Ge dunno about this. I thought this weekend we really going in the right direction.
Doesn't look good if we sacked him for future coaches this is the worse scenario for mine.
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The article has been updated to say they believe it was Wallace who walked from the job believing he had lost the players. I kinda hope this is the case as I think it's pretty bad timing. The players tried their guts out yesterday, clearly not the sign of a side not playing for their coach.
I also think it's pretty soft that the players were unhappy with his post match comments to the playing group. You deserved to get blasted, you grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory yet again. No wonder outsiders think we're soft.
My educated guess is that the board told Terry he was not going to be resigned next year and wanted to tank for the rest of the season. Terry didn't want to stick around for that so he walked.
I only hope we go through a very thorough process to find the next coach. If Wayne Campbell is that man I'll be dead set gutted. Though I wouldn't be surprised if we have to pick him as no one else will touch us.
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Ge dunno about this. I thought this weekend we really going in the right direction.
Doesn't look good if we sacked him for future coaches this is the worse scenario for mine.
Perhaps, but not if they are doing a carlton and already have their man. Campo!!
I get the feeling this is whats going to happen.
Campo in to play the kids. signed sealed and delivered. Just my opinion of course but gee its looking that way
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This just doesn't add up.
Terry didn't want to walk as he wanted to redeem his "walking" from the Bulldogs. He said last week he wanted to stay regardless. After a honourable loss it's baffling. If we got smashed fair enough.
Just doesn't make sense.
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and good riddons to him..
whoever said the players still had faith in him were kidding themselves. Its obvious now he has lost them if you read into Newy's comments
He has left us in a mess
FFS the phrase is "good riddance" not your made up nonsense word.
Moron
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Whatever :-\ ;D
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from what i here wallace the self centered prick deserves a punch in his tanned face ten times over . i cannot belive what he told the players behind closed doors. he is a disgusting person and cannot accept blame and if i were the players i would gang bash the prick
well done to the boys for standing up to his bs , about time
we still have a heart beat
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from what i here wallace the self centered prick deserves a punch in his tanned face ten times over . i cannot belive what he told the players behind closed doors. he is a disgusting person and cannot accept blame and if i were the players i would gang bash the prick
well done to the boys for standing up to his bs , about time
we still have a heart beat
I'm not really sure there's anything they didn't deserve to hear, perhaps our players should harden the stuff up.
What could it possibly have been to insult our little diddums so much?
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Herald Sun, The Age & Hutchy (on SEN) saying Ralwings likley to be caretaker
HUN also saying Royal's been terminated too
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and good riddons to him..
whoever said the players still had faith in him were kidding themselves. Its obvious now he has lost them if you read into Newy's comments
He has left us in a mess
FFS the phrase is "good riddance" not your made up nonsense word.
Moron
here is another word for you
GOODBYE
hahahahaha your tanned mate is gone.
thank god and i hope it cuts deep
this means goodbye to JON, Schulz and that idiot Mcmahon
im already pumped for next year
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and good riddons to him..
whoever said the players still had faith in him were kidding themselves. Its obvious now he has lost them if you read into Newy's comments
He has left us in a mess
FFS the phrase is "good riddance" not your made up nonsense word.
Moron
here is another word for you
GOODBYE
At least you spelt it right.
I'm looking foward to Sat night, should be a ripper.
:cheers
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Latest update from the HUN
Now saying Choco not sacked ;D
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Richmond sacks Terry Wallace
Mark Robinson, Tony Sheahan | May 19, 2009 09:37am
UPDATE 10:49am: RICHMOND has sacked coach Terry Wallace after a series of emergency meetings yesterday and last night.
Wallace's long-time assistant Brian Royal was also believed to be close to getting sacked, but walked on to the training track at 10.45am.
It is believed the players were upset about Wallace's post-match critique of the team after Sunday's loss to Port Adelaide.
Wallace did not return calls from the Herald Sun last night.
Players yesterday, led by captain Chris Newman, spoke to Wallace about the closed-doors post-match address and it's understood Wallace has walked from the job, believing the players had lost faith in him.
The veteran coach was not immediately available for comment, failing even to return calls from close friends last night and this morning.
Wallace has been under enormous pressure since an embarrassing loss to Carlton in Rd 1 and his team is languishing in 15th position with just one win.
Wallace did not arrive at the club's Punt Rd headquarters today by his usual time of 8.30am.
Richmond assistant coaches David King, Craig McRae, Wayne Campbell and Jade Rawlings arrived at Punt Rd this morning unaware any decision on the head coach had been made.
Players spoken to by the Herald Sun were also not aware of any developments.
President Gary March also did not return calls this morning.
Wallace is in the fifth your of a five-year contract and was no chance to coach the team in 2010.
It is known that Wallace met with Richmond chief executive Steven Wright late last night.
Wallace only last week went on radio and declared he wanted to coach out the year.
In the same interview he said he would not put up a fight if the club decided to end his tenure early.
Richmond president Gary March, Wallace and Wallace's closet football friend, Brian Royal, were not answering their phones this morning.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25505197-19742,00.html
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Herald Sun, The Age & Hutchy (on SEN) saying Ralwings likley to be caretaker
HUN also saying Royal's been terminated too
If Jade Rawlings coaches the club as caretaker over Cambo or David King I'll sit at home this weekend. What a mess.
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What did Wallace tell the players to make them so upset lol ...Does anyone know?
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If Jade Rawlings coaches the club as caretaker over Cambo or David King I'll sit at home this weekend. What a mess.
Word I hear is he is well respected by the players and considering it appears that the players are heavily involved with what's happening at the minute; dont we need someone they respect in charge down there
and BTW he's done a very good job at Coburg
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Discusting from the club if this is true, they have proved themselves yet again to be liars and non-supportive of their coaches no matter who is in charge at board level. Shame on you Richmond you have further proved to to wider football community that the eat your own mentality still lives and breaths at this club, probably more so than ever!!
For those of you on this forum that condone this sacking (if it is true) then you are a discrace. For those of you that are clapping and saying great get lost and take your mates with you well I can only hope karma plays a big part in your life in the future.
The real Richmond supportes stick by the whole club through thick and thin, the rest of you are nothing but passengers and that is why this club has failed for so long.
Discracefull!!!!!!
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Discusting from the club if this is true, they have proved themselves yet again to be liars and non-supportive of their coaches no matter who is in charge at board level. Shame on you Richmond you have further proved to to wider football community that the eat your own mentality still lives and breaths at this club, probably more so than ever!!
For those of you on this forum that condone this sacking (if it is true) then you are a discrace. For those of you that are clapping and saying great get lost and take your mates with you well I can only hope karma plays a big part in your life in the future.
The real Richmond supportes stick by the whole club through thick and thin, the rest of you are nothing but passengers and that is why this club has failed for so long.
Discracefull!!!!!!
You shouldnt take these things so seriously, also there is no "c" in the word disgrace. Ok!
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Somewhat uneasy with a man named Jade taking over as coach of the mighty tigers but if they reckon he is the best for the job... ;)
In all seriousness its the right decision to sack Wallace about three or four weeks late. Hindsight is wonderful but I was adamant it was time to go after the Melbourne loss. The new coach has a tough enough job without Cousins and Richo but the hope of finals footy is now so faint that he is going to have to be masterful in the way he motivates them to see us rise (if indeed that is what the board want).
Oh and I don't think it is tenable for long-time assistant and Wallace lieutenant Royal to stay in a assistant coach capacity. If they are prepared to leapfrog Choco with Rawlings or King or Campbell that really says a lot about how they value him and he should be shown the door.
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Greg Denham just said that Wallace may NOT have been sacked lol. Its full comedy capers again :lol
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Greg Denham on SEN saying that TW will continue to the end of the season :o
12.00pm press conference at the Jack Dyer statue with Craig Cameron and Chris Newman :gobdrop
Where's the President, CEO
Oh dear it just looks like amatuer hour again :banghead
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look at the funny side WP... its less stress :gotigers
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Discusting from the club if this is true, they have proved themselves yet again to be liars and non-supportive of their coaches no matter who is in charge at board level. Shame on you Richmond you have further proved to to wider football community that the eat your own mentality still lives and breaths at this club, probably more so than ever!!
For those of you on this forum that condone this sacking (if it is true) then you are a discrace. For those of you that are clapping and saying great get lost and take your mates with you well I can only hope karma plays a big part in your life in the future.
The real Richmond supportes stick by the whole club through thick and thin, the rest of you are nothing but passengers and that is why this club has failed for so long.
Discracefull!!!!!!
You shouldnt take these things so seriously, also there is no "c" in the word disgrace. Ok!
Maybe you should and it was a typo, don't get smart about spelling mistakes focus on the real issue for a change. It is a disgrace, there is no other word for it!!
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look at the funny side WP... its less stress :gotigers
Yep can hardly wait for 12.00pm :rollin
Maybe Jack's statue will come to life and whack a few people down there in the hope that some common sense and professionalism will final reach the RFC :rollin
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Where's the President, CEO
Oh dear it just looks like amatuer hour again :banghead
SAY NO MORE!! Typical of this club and to be expected.
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Hutchy saying TW staying
The air has been cleared
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Maybe Jack's statue will come to life and whack a few people down there in the hope that some common sense and professionalism will final reach the RFC :rollin
LOL, it would probably take something like that wouldnt it.
Maybe he could go out searching for a few "supporters" as well
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Typical stuffing Richmond circus, we must be the laughing stock of the AFL.
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How can you say this is Richmonds fault.
The jounro's will get massive wrap over the knuckles for this you can't go and print stories on some rumours.. If this is false unless some idiot from Richmond said Wallace is sacked the Herald Sun could be sued from Wallace for damages. This is an out right disgrace.
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Should I change the Thread title to Wallace Un sacked :rollin
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How can you say this is Richmonds fault.
The jounro's will get massive wrap over the knuckles for this you can't go and print stories on some rumours.. If this is false unless some idiot from Richmond said Wallace is sacked the Herald Sun could be sued from Wallace for damages. This is an out right disgrace.
The way Hutchy was just speaking up until an hour ago he was sacked now after a meeting at March's office with TW & the leadership group things have been sorted out and he will continue
If it wasn't so serious it would be funny
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Should I change the Thread title to Wallace Un sacked :rollin
Should Jackstar change his scoop :rollin
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How can you say this is Richmonds fault.
The jounro's will get massive wrap over the knuckles for this you can't go and print stories on some rumours.. If this is false unless some idiot from Richmond said Wallace is sacked the Herald Sun could be sued from Wallace for damages. This is an out right disgrace.
The way Hutchy was just speaking up until an hour ago he was sacked now after a meeting at March's office with TW & the leadership group things have been sorted out and he will continue
If it wasn't so serious it would be funny
Looks like another story that has been created by journos just to try and be the one that breaks the news.
How's Kozzi going Hutchy lol...
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Should I change the Thread title to Wallace Un sacked :rollin
Should Jackstar change his scoop :rollin
Don't think we can blame Jack for this one
Though you wouldn't want to be Mark Robinson or Tony Sheahan from the HUN
What was I saying about amatuer hour :rollin
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damm
now i have to go back to the bottle shop and give all that booze back
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damm
now i have to go back to the bottle shop and give all that booze back
Hahahahha! touche!
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The latest from the HUN
It now gone from saying "SACKED" to 'WALLACE ON BRINK"
:lol :rollin ;D :lol
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Wallace under cloud
Mark Robinson, Tony Sheahan | May 19, 2009 09:37am
UPDATE 11:33am: TERRY Wallace's future at Punt Rd is up in the air with conflicting reports coming from Richmond
It is believed the senior players had a robust discussion with Tigers president Gary March this morning, confiming that Wallace has their full support.
Tigers captain Chris Newman and football manager Craig Cameron will have a press conference at midday today.
MORE TO COME
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25505197-19742,00.html
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Typical effing Richmond circus, we must be the laughing stock of the AFL.
No.
The HUN/Robbo are the laughing stock of the media.
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Should I change the Thread title to Wallace Un sacked :rollin
Just changed it :rollin
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damm
now i have to go back to the bottle shop and give all that booze back
Hahahahha! touche!
in all honesty i would rather Wallet till the end of the year instead of Rawlings who will be out to win games.
I dont want a coach there who is wanting to win games and send us back another 5 years.
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The Age are saying rumours are flying
:help
It's funny
There will be live audio on the Age website too
Bring on 12.00pm ;D
Should I change the Thread title to Wallace Un sacked :rollin
Just changed it :rollin
Dont get too far ahead of yourself wayne it could change again in an hour :rollin
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:rollin :rollin
This is funny.
I'd be interested as to whether the RFC spokeswoman really did say "you can draw your own conclusions" when the journo called. These sorts of meetings should take place at a time when the spokeswoman is at home in bed or "out for morning tea".
Nonetheless if we aren't going to sack Wallace now we never are, the upside in sacking him is ever evaporating (even though I think we should have several rounds ago when we were still in with an outside finals chance and still think he is lucky to have a job) and to get the message through to the boneheads in the media March should just say that Wallace will be coaching out the season, no ifs buts or maybes about it and to go somewhere else if you are digging for a story.
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Actually the title should be
Wallace was sacked then un-sacked :rollin
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:rollin :rollin
Nonetheless if we aren't going to sack Wallace now we never are, the upside in sacking him is ever evaporating (even though I think we should have several rounds ago when we were still in with an outside finals chance and still think he is lucky to have a job) and to get the message through to the boneheads in the media March should just say that Wallace will be coaching out the season, no ifs buts or maybes about it and to go somewhere else if you are digging for a story.
I think it is a fair bet that he wont be sacked now ...
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Should I change the Thread title to Wallace Un sacked :rollin
Should Jackstar change his scoop :rollin
Jackstar was corect
terry was sacked and somewhow the club changed their mind , i bet it has to do with a clause in his contract
dont believe what the players say in the media, they have lost total faith and respect in terry
this is a joke
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:rollin :rollin
Nonetheless if we aren't going to sack Wallace now we never are, the upside in sacking him is ever evaporating (even though I think we should have several rounds ago when we were still in with an outside finals chance and still think he is lucky to have a job) and to get the message through to the boneheads in the media March should just say that Wallace will be coaching out the season, no ifs buts or maybes about it and to go somewhere else if you are digging for a story.
I think it is a fair bet that he wont be sacked now ...
why would terry want to stay when he knows the players hate him and he wont be there next yr
MONEY MONEY MONEY
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:rollin :rollin
Nonetheless if we aren't going to sack Wallace now we never are, the upside in sacking him is ever evaporating (even though I think we should have several rounds ago when we were still in with an outside finals chance and still think he is lucky to have a job) and to get the message through to the boneheads in the media March should just say that Wallace will be coaching out the season, no ifs buts or maybes about it and to go somewhere else if you are digging for a story.
I think it is a fair bet that he wont be sacked now ...
I think its also a fair bet that after every loss from here until about rd 16 the media will be writing about Wallace's "uncertain future" and trying to press the issue too.
Would be nice if this became a non-issue to be honest, and March can easily make it one today.
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Don't think we can blame Jack for this one
Though you wouldn't want to be Mark Robinson or Tony Sheahan from the HUN
What was I saying about amatuer hour :rollin
Jack, isn't Tony Sheahan your mate?
Wonder where he got his info from :rollin
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Don't think we can blame Jack for this one
Though you wouldn't want to be Mark Robinson or Tony Sheahan from the HUN
What was I saying about amatuer hour :rollin
Jack, isn't Tony Sheahan your mate?
Wonder where he got his info from :rollin
A bit harsh? Next you will be suggesting Jack has a vested interest in Terry's possible demise.
:lol
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Summary from SEN
Cameron:
- Wallace wasn't sacked at anytime
- Didn't offer his resignation
- meeting called to work out how we turn our season around
- we haven't budged from our position about how we will be reviewing the coaching position
- all this speculation is being driven by the media
- will we be here in four weeks "I hope not" :P
- TW is senior coach and will not be speaking about it again (Ed note: here's hoping)
- we are about winning footy games not tanking
- would not talk about specifics about the meeting
- meeting about the RFC setting our agenda for the remainder of the year
- meeting to to ensure the club doesn't fracture
- confirmed Choco HAS NOT been sacked
Newman
- wanted to make sure we are all on the same page
- TW's post match speech was sensational
- He did approach TW to sit down and have a chat
- Never told the Board that they have lost confidence in TW and they wanted him gone
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Good gawd even Caro's was at the press conference. Ditto Mike Sheahan
Robbo had the gall to show his face ;D
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Its another RFC circus. Its a farce, we are shambles.
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that press conference was a total load of propaganda
cant believe how many gullible ppl are out there
at least mark doran could see through
SPIN SPIN SPIN
WALLACES TRADEMARK
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Don't think we can blame Jack for this one
Though you wouldn't want to be Mark Robinson or Tony Sheahan from the HUN
What was I saying about amatuer hour :rollin
Jack, isn't Tony Sheahan your mate?
Wonder where he got his info from :rollin
A bit harsh? Next you will be suggesting Jack has a vested interest in Terry's possible demise.
:lol
Not suggesting anything, just wondrin' :lol
And never suggested Jack had a vested interest in Terry's possible demise haha!
I do know Sheahan has a lot to answer for
I can see Mike sitting him down for a father-son talk this afternoon :wallywink
:rollin
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Cameron:
- we haven't budged from our position about how we will be reviewing the coaching position
Cheers WP.
What is this position? End of season, round 12 or otherwise? Because I am not sure it has been made clear.
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Summary from SEN
Cameron:
- Wallace wasn't sacked at anytime
- Didn't offer his resignation
- meeting called to work out how we turn our season around
- we haven't budged from our position about how we will be reviewing the coaching position
- all this speculation is being driven by the media
- will we be here in four weeks "I hope not" :P
- TW is senior coach and will not be speaking about it again (Ed note: here's hoping)
- we are about winning footy games not tanking
- would not talk about specifics about the meeting
- meeting about the RFC setting our agenda for the remainder of the year
- meeting to to ensure the club doesn't fracture
- confirmed Choco HAS NOT been sacked
Newman
- wanted to make sure we are all on the same page
- TW's post match speech was sensational
- He did approach TW to sit down and have a chat
- Never told the Board that they have lost confidence in TW and they wanted him gone
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Good gawd even Caro's was at the press conference. Ditto Mike Sheahan
Robbo had the gall to show his face ;D
Weird thing that Terry was at home, not at training only thing that doesn't add up. Most likely he stayed at home to stay away from the circus.
What a disgrace from the HUN, could be a storm after this especially after the "Death Row" comments. Wallace could get millions off these blokes.
Apparently Robbo will be on SEN later.
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that press conference was a total load of propaganda
cant believe how many gullible ppl are out there
at least mark doran could see through
SPIN SPIN SPIN
WALLACES TRADEMARK
What exactly do you think they are going to say
I only typed a summary for those who didn't have the feed - lucky I am on holidays to do it ;D
Actually my tack would have been to go after robbo and the HUN make them look like gooses :thumbsup
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that press conference was a total load of propaganda
cant believe how many gullible ppl are out there
at least mark doran could see through
SPIN SPIN SPIN
WALLACES TRADEMARK
How can you blame Wallace out of this, you have really convinced me, your parents actually have given birth to the all round professional complete all in one stuff wit package, please congratulate them for me!!!!
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Stick to the topic and stop with the insults
What is this position? End of season, round 12 or otherwise? Because I am not sure it has been made clear.
They have said that they are doing a review of the entire footy dept and it would be completed by the end of June. Once completed the review would recommend what the club needs to do coaching wise for 2010 and beyond.
March said at the end of 2008 that they would make a call on TW's future mid season
That's the process as I understand it :thumbsup ;D
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hutchy is an absolute goose
He should be sacked
If heis the poster child of the afl media then god help us.
Robbo is not much better.
Think about it, wallace is on a hiding to nothing, he wont make the finals and his winning percentage will end up being about 33%, his image is in tatters. He had every chance to jump ship ( he still wouldve been paid out ) but has decided not to.
No doubt in my mind now that Wallace will coach till rnd 22.
The only reason he should be sacked is if he refuses to keep blooding kids.
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Wallace stays on as Tigers coach
12:39 PM Tue 19 May, 2009
RICHMOND has confirmed that Terry Wallace remains coach of the club.
The Tigers called a noon press conference to quash a story running on the Herald Sun website claiming that Wallace had already been sacked and blaming a player revolt.
But captain Chris Newman and head of football Craig Cameron affirmed they wanted Wallace to see out his contract and he had their full backing after a meeting on Tuesday morning.
Newman said the players never lost confidence in the coach but said he had called a meeting to clear the air.
“We sit at 1-7 so we needed to sit down as a group and make sure we are on the same page and bring up where we are going wrong and what we can do for the future,” Newman said.
Newman also disputed reports that players were upset about Wallace’s post-match comments to players after the narrow loss to Port Adelaide.
“I’ve heard a little bit about that speculation, but he was sensational after the game. His post-match speech was really good and obviously [he was] pretty upset with the loss as we all were".
Newman said he called the meeting to drive the club forwards.
Full article at:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/77110/default.aspx
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Serious question - could TW or the RFC legally go after the HUN in anyway for "mis-reporting" the facts
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Serious question - could TW or the RFC legally go after the HUN in anyway for "mis-reporting" the facts
no because there wording protects them
but there is more behind this and the hun knows this
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Robbo on SEN
(first try phone line was shocking)
Anyway....
- proven to be wrong, but events haven't been fully put on the plate :-\
- Robbo believes story very suspicious
- 7.00pm Monday night story started to bubble along but not enough to go with it in the paper this morning
- info this morning including from someone inside the club that TW was gone. TW thought himself he was gone
- did TW turn up at the meeting thinking he was gone - Robbo believes TW thought he was gone last night when he went to bed
- Robbo says player took exception to post match comments in particular it appears Morton got an almighty spray he got this info from someone inside the club :banghead
- Robbo says to have an emergency Board meeting is "suss". you don't call em if something isn't going on
- Robbo says Newman went to Wallace yesterday afternoon
- Robbo says that there are alot unanswered question. Will be interesting to see what March says tonight
- Do you need to apologise Robbo - he said he will sit on that one and don't expect an apology in the papers tomorrow
- Robbo said he needs to go and do some more investigating because something is just not quite right about this story (Ed: No kidding)
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Have to say that Robbo said a couple of times that he got his info from someone inside the club
This is the thing that really shiits me.... we leak worse than the bloody titantic
Perhaps if people actually shut up for longer than 5 minutes we would actually not be looked upon as rabble
If the media had not known about last nights supposed meetings then maybe todays' events would not of happened or ...... :shh
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- info this morning including from someone inside the club that TW was gone. TW thought himself he was gone
This points out that elements within our club are bad. If hard discussions and decisions need to be made fair enough but they have to be kept in-house. To have a mole leaking stuff out to the media to feed on is just not on.
Also WP give yourself a rap on the knuckles again please for avoiding the swear filter ;D
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Robbo also said Wallace sat down with a "friend" at the Manningham Hotel. Wasn't answering calls from close friends yet friends were saying the believed he was gone ???.
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My spies in Melbourne tell me that Terry's friend was Phil Maylin and they did have a drink at the Manningham and Terry told him that he was gone. So Robbo was right.
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Robbo is suss.
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If Jade Rawlings coaches the club as caretaker over Cambo or David King I'll sit at home this weekend. What a mess.
Word I hear is he is well respected by the players and considering it appears that the players are heavily involved with what's happening at the minute; dont we need someone they respect in charge down there
and BTW he's done a very good job at Coburg
Some people should check that their head is in gear before they open their trap
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- Robbo says player took exception to post match comments in particular it appears Morton got an almighty spray he got this info from someone inside the club :banghead
Why doesn't someone ask Mitch Morton for a comment?
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I believe Terry more so then the Richmond FC has more to legally go after the Herald Sun. Wallace can blame mental trauma from the public humiliation he has endured over the "Death Row" comments as well as this false story that he can claim has put his family into chaos. Whether he woudl win or not is another story but from a legal point of view he has at minimum a case to sit on.
From a club point of view our case wouldn't be as strong as the media haven't caused us any damage other than possible defamation of our brand which isn't a bold case. You wouldn't want to stuff up another Terry Wallace story if you were an employee of the Herald Sun that is for sure.
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- Robbo says to have an emergency Board meeting is "suss". you don't call em if something isn't going on
Was it an emergency board meeting? I thought it was a regular monthly meeting that Wallace requested to attend
Remember our last meeting was the week after the Melbourne game, it's now after Round 8 so 4 weeks later, that looks like a regular scheduled meeting to me
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Robbo also said Wallace sat down with a "friend" at the Manningham Hotel. Wasn't answering calls from close friends yet friends were saying the believed he was gone ???.
Was that it? I heard Manningham hotel but didn't cactch the rest of it because I was typing ;D
Why doesn't someone ask Mitch Morton for a comment?
He wont be commenting and nor should he.. somethings should stay in house
This points out that elements within our club are bad. If hard discussions and decisions need to be made fair enough but they have to be kept in-house. To have a mole leaking stuff out to the media to feed on is just not on.
Exactly what i have been saying for a long long time now. It is actually our biggest problem, this leaking crap IMHO
Also WP give yourself a rap on the knuckles again please for avoiding the swear filter ;D
I have given myself a serious talking too and reported myself (again) to myself
Was it an emergency board meeting? I thought it was a regular monthly meeting that Wallace requested to attend
Remember our last meeting was the week after the Melbourne game, it's now after Round 8 so 4 weeks later, that looks like a regular scheduled meeting to me
Robbo implied there was an emergency board meeting last night and more meetings this morning prior to the meeting at March's office
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Was it an emergency board meeting? I thought it was a regular monthly meeting that Wallace requested to attend
Remember our last meeting was the week after the Melbourne game, it's now after Round 8 so 4 weeks later, that looks like a regular scheduled meeting to me
Robbo implied there was an emergency board meeting last night and more meetings this morning prior to the meeting at March's office
I understand Robbo implied that and if it played out how he said with meetings this morning, they I agree that they would be considered "emergency", however I can't see anything that says last nights meeting was anything else but a regular board meeting so I think he's telling porkies.
If this did play out like Robbo said it did, would anyone still think Gary March knows what the hell he's doing?
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I understand Robbo implied that and if it played out how he said with meetings this morning, they I agree that they would be considered "emergency", however I can't see anything that says last nights meeting was anything else but a regular board meeting so I think he's telling porkies.
If this did play out like Robbo said it did, would anyone still think Gary March knows what the hell he's doing?
But the normal monthly board meeting was scheduled for tonight not last night. So if they met last night (although I am sure Cameron denied this) then maybe it was an emergency meeting ;D
Cameron also said the meeting scheduled for tonight is defintely still on but Terry wont be there :thumbsup
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This points out that elements within our club are bad. If hard discussions and decisions need to be made fair enough but they have to be kept in-house. To have a mole leaking stuff out to the media to feed on is just not on.
Exactly what i have been saying for a long long time now. It is actually our biggest problem, this leaking crap IMHO
Agree totally, but I spose it comes under the banner of 'Free' Speech :shh
Edited to correct quote
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The media are a pack of wolves baying for blood. I think TW should sue just to stop this sort of character assassination and outright lies from occuring to other coaches in the future...and for a pretty penny himself.
We will win this Saturday.
Stripes
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Should I change the Thread title to Wallace Un sacked :rollin
Should Jackstar change his scoop :rollin
Nah. as it was true and he was sacked. They have no idea whats going on down there. They tell lies at the press conference as well
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It really is embarassing what's happended today
Handled abysmally by the media, our Club
Which ever view you hold I don't think anyone can disagree with the fact that today has been a shambles and a pathetic day for the Club....
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Just wondering is there anyone you like? ::)
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I have seen everything now. Jackstar getting all spewy about Chris Newman telling Wallace to go??????????
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Whats unbeleiveable is tha two grown men can tell lies( spin) when asked questions at press conferences
Wallace and Wrighty did have a meeting last night
And Newman confronted Wallace and asked him to move on, due to the abusive post match and that the players have had enough of him.
Chris Newman, :chuck
Please explain how you know this?
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What a surprise we were the lead story on Ch 10 news :banghead
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Is Caro due to be on 3AW tonight
She was at the press conference today :P
Should be fantastic listening :nope :nope
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Is Caro due to be on 3AW tonight
She was at the press conference today :P
Should be fantastic listening :nope :nope
What time?
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What a surprise we were the lead story on Ch 10 news :banghead
What was there version?
Just that Herald Sun stuffed it up?
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Is Caro due to be on 3AW tonight
She was at the press conference today :P
Should be fantastic listening :nope :nope
I found it amazing that Caro was there, couldnt beleive my eyes
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What a surprise we were the lead story on Ch 10 news :banghead
What was there version?
Just that Herald Sun stuffed it up?
I only caught the end of it which was bits of the press conference, so I don't know
They have said they will have more later in the bulletin (I'm assuming sport)
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I found it amazing that Caro was there, couldnt beleive my eyes
Yeah Mike Sheahan was there too
Not sure the last time Caro was actually at a Club for a press conference
I know she goes to the ones at AFL headquarters but an actual club :o
:eyebrow
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Interesting, I wonder if Mike spoke to his son down there, ;)
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Interesting, I wonder if Mike spoke to his son down there, ;)
It seems Mike's son isn't copping the same flak as Robbo over this.
Which is probably a little unfair seeing Tony Sheahan's name was all over the "Wallace Sacked" headlines on the HUN this morning. Right next to Robbo's
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Seems that Gary March stepped in early today and told the players he runs the club, and not the players.
Overall, this isnt healthy for the club as the players and the coach are ""miles apart ""
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Today has been disgraceful. The coach should go, the president should go, the captain should stand down from the captaincy, and the football manager should go for his part at the conference. Just disgraceful. No wonder why we are a rabble.
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As I said on another thread be very careful listening to what this jackstar says as fact. do't let the truth get in the way of a good story
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As I said on another thread be very careful listening to what this jackstar says as fact. do't let the truth get in the way of a good story
most are aware of jackstars short comings. :lol
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As I said on another thread be very careful listening to what this jackstar says as fact. do't let the truth get in the way of a good story
most are aware of jackstars short comings. :lol
Thats cool. just wont post it
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As I said on another thread be very careful listening to what this jackstar says as fact. do't let the truth get in the way of a good story
so why should we listen to you? please enlighten us
i have heard from reliable people, say the exact same things that jackstar has said, so maybe jackstar is on the money?
so please back up your statement and / or knowledge because you cannot deny that there is a huge rift , as i know there is
btw, that press conference was a load of merda
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RFC & Wallace payback on the media which sent it into a frenzy ;D LMFAO :rollin just goes to show they write anything for a headline.
nothing is going on so settle down you lads :rollin :rollin
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Pretty much comes down to this weekend, If we win I would say the players are behind him.
If we lose badly then the other scenario seems more than likely.
Seriously some people need to get over themselves.
We are not playing as a team at the moment, guys are in and out of the side and careers are on the line from the top down through the players down to the board boy (Dont start me on him ;D)
Man there is going to be friction it is pretty obvious, but I am sure as a group they have to realise there is a line to be drawn and when to act like a group of resposible adults.
What would be the point coming out in the media and telling the whole story, especially when the media can turn a molehill into a mountain out of even the most mundain things.
It is sort of like these times of political correctness you know it! I know it! We all know it! But you don't dare say it. effn joke really. But you just don't do it.
Like all this has never happended at any other club, just because it is Richmond it gets blown right out of proportion.
Listening to SEN this morning some dude summed it up! something along the lines of I dont barrack for Richmond so I dont give a flying, seriously what a circus, so the coach spat the dummy "Geez what a rarity that must be' and some players feelings got hurt 'tough titties' really.
Trying to bag Newman for towing the company line is a crock, coming from people who are full of themselves, if you are clever enough you know whoever it is in that position would do exactly the same thing otherwise it would be out the door buddy. Dont try and make out how celever we all are by questioning Newy, we know there is more than what was said, but really what business is it of the publics to know every fine detail of what goes on behind closed doors.
Get over it and support the club u silly FUX :banghead
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:clapping Well said Cub.
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Here we go again people.. ::) ::) ::) ::)
KANE Johnson has emerged as a key participant in Monday's player push to have Terry Wallace removed as coach of Richmond.
Although it was captain Chris Newman who delivered the unpalatable message to Wallace three days ago, The Age understands that Newman's predecessor Johnson was the loudest voice in the small group of Richmond footballers who heavily influenced the rookie skipper to approach the coach.
As the dust settled yesterday on the strife-torn club, it became apparent that Tiger football boss Craig Cameron made it clear to the players in no uncertain terms that they would not be deciding Wallace's future.
Cameron's message was not only backed up by president Gary March but also endorsed by significant voices in the playing group including veterans Matthew Richardson and Joel Bowden.
It has now become clear that Newman strongly suggested to Wallace on Monday that he step aside as coach.
The new skipper, who was celebrating his 27th birthday, said he believed the playing group had reached the end of its professional relationship with Wallace.
A number of concerns were raised and it also became clear that some senior players believed that Wallace would soon be gone and had become fearful the club could retain him until the end of the year.
By Monday night, Newman was reportedly remorseful once he realised the massive ramifications of his actions.
Having been encouraged to work on improving communication between coach and players, Newman at some point in recent days had become overwhelmed by concern that Wallace had lost a significant group of players.
The club has privately vowed to continue to support Newman as captain with the prevailing view that his performance on Monday in confronting Wallace was well-intentioned if naive.
Johnson, 31, who stepped down as captain last year and has had misgivings about the coach for at least a year, is due to return from injury some time in June.
He is understood to have spoken with Newman and had received some support from another senior player in Troy Simmonds. Jake King also spent a small portion of time speaking with Wallace in Newman's presence.
It is not known whether Johnson has been spoken to by club executives, all of whom refused to comment yesterday on what took place in Tuesday's talks.
Wallace, in turn, believed he was facing the sack on Monday night and revealed as much to at least one associate, which explained the misreporting of his fate which took place two days ago.
The coach was never sacked and the Richmond hierarchy made its case plain to the players at the start of Tuesday's meeting.
Bowden and Richardson spoke out strongly against a player revolt, pointing out that such a decision was not theirs to make and that the club's reputation would only be further damaged should the players be seen to have sacked the coach.
The Tuesday talks, which took place with 13 senior players in Port Melbourne, revealed a number of divisions among the playing group regarding the coach's future and Wallace's comments to Mitch Morton after the Port Adelaide loss were only briefly raised.
While Wallace stayed away from the club yesterday, as is customary for a Wednesday, the coach is understood to have emerged from Tuesday's crisis meeting satisfied that he had the support of the Richmond board and administration to continue as coach of the club until the end of the season.
Although Wallace and the club remain mutually convinced that he will not receive another coaching contract, the preference is for Wallace to complete the season after his fate has been decided by June's much-vaunted mid-year review.
The crisis talks also made it clear to the decision-makers at the club that internal development required some external assistance, with a program such as Leading Teams — utilised, among others, by the highly successful Geelong in recent years — put forward as one possible solution to player issues at Tigerland.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/johnson-led-tiger-revolt/2009/05/20/1242498807872.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1