One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on May 18, 2004, 01:59:41 AM
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Once again the topic of alternative strips is back in the news. Thoughts? Have they changed either way the past couple of years?
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No jumper lead
18 May 2004
Herald Sun
THE AFL won't change its policy on alternate guernseys.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said yesterday he wouldn't dictate that clubs commit to alternate jumpers, but was hopeful all teams would do so by next year.
"We have encouraged all clubs to do that," he said.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,9590806%255E19742,00.html
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I know I'm in the minority as I'm not totally against the idea. Fit more into the "depends on what the alternative guernsey is" category. However I haven't really liked any of the preseason jumpers we've had and that heritage guernsey..eeek! :P .
The old WA state of origin guernsey is an obvious one - reverse our colours:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/ex_players/WAvsVic1986.jpg)
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I'm a traditionalist and i don't want to see any change.
The only one for my mind that we clash with is the Bombers, and if the Bombers don't care about an alternate strip, both teams should be happy.
Status quo for moi.
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Yeah that heritage jumper really was the pits. I didn't mind this jumper though.
(http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/1341101.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DEF115EC3CA7B2EDAC5869510B01069383)
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If you asked me this question 5-10 years ago I would have said "NOPE", "NO WAY"
I would consider it if:
1/ we kept our colours - would have to be yellow and black - no other colours involved
2/ if we were offered a large sum of money. If the rumours regarding our finances are true then if some offered us an extra $500,000 a year then we would have to look at it.
I like the look of that old WA jumper. There was also an old training top that had the claw design that could be used as well
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It should be the choice of Clubs whether they have an alternative jumper or not. The strongest Clubs are the "Traditional" clubs because they have been able to maintain their identity and not sell their soul for money or be dictated to by others.
Essendon don't seem to have a problem with displaying numbers and sponsors on the back of their jumper, don't see why it should be a problem for us if we were to return to the sash on the back.
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I coud imagine the uproar over here in perth if Richmond's away strip was the states jumper LOL Fantastic !!!
cool cant wait, when do we start?
hahahaha
god im a S#$t stirrer ;D
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To answer the question I didn't really answer before, I don't agree with alternative guernseys. I just think it's a step closer to sanitising the game completely.
And if I hear one more person espouse the theory that if it's good enough for Man U. it's good enough for the AFL, I'll bust a boiler. What’s wrong with being unique and keeping our game truly Australian? Do we really need to be like other football codes?
From what we’ve seen so far, the alternative jumpers have only added confusion.
Keep it traditional.
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Yeah that heritage jumper really was the pits. I didn't mind this jumper though.
Julz,
I am thinking that you liked the person in the jumper more than you actually liked the jumper ;D ;D
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I didn't mind this jumper though.
;D We're onto you Julz :D :D :D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ok so what's inside the jumper is good too.
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I actualy liked that one with the claw design aswell...if we were to use an away jumper id chose that.
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I am absolutely opposed to the Idea of alternate jumpers, I thought we made an unneccessary transition when we took the sash of the back of our jumpers many years ago and im very much in favour of bringing that sash back. Essendon have got it right, they have never taken a backward step and so they shouldnt and neither should we. Have the guts to stand up to what is rightfully yours and don't be bullyed into compromising your position or worn down by it.
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I can't understand why people say the club shouldn't change and shouldn't be bullied into changing and that we need to keep the traditional jumpers. The traditional jumper will be kept................forever - as long as RFC exists the jumper will be ours.
People arguing for an alternative jumper are not saying change the old jumper. They, like every tiger fan, love the jumper. People are merely saying introduce an alternative jumper when jumpers clash and when we play away.......that's all. It will be an addition to the club - not something being taken away.
It is a great money making venture. It will be interesting to see how much St.Kilda make from their alternative jumpers.
I beleive the home jumper should stay the same and never changed. However I beleive the away jumper should be changed and designed differntly every year. This way people will constantly buy the new design every year. There is so much that can be done with black and yellow, and IMO some white can be added in order that the jumper better matches the white shorts.
Great clubs like Arsenal change their away tops every year and make a killing from merchandise sales.
This is a great opportunity to make some much needed money. I'm sure that a large proportion of supporters will go and buy the alternative jumpers. So many supporters bought the clawed jumper when it first came out. At the moment there is no incentive for tiger supporters to buy the original jumper as almost everyone has one.
I would rather the club persue such marketing and money making ventures and become self sufficient financially instead of going to the AFL, cap in hand and playing at 92.5% of the salary cap.
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What you say makes a lot of sense Harry H. However, Clubs like Essendon and Collingwood aren’t in a hurry to change their jumper. They don’t seem to be struggling financially because of it.
It seems that the strong Clubs are so not because they conform, but because they have the ability to be different and maintain their identity. Therefore, I don’t see that having an alternative jumper is going to ease our financial plight or make us a better Club, but would instead highlight how much things have changed and that our reputation as one of the strong and traditional Clubs has come to an end. Could only be a sad day for me, if it ever happens.
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The stronger clubs are those with a large supporter base that win premierships consistently. Not having an alternate jumper has had no relevance to the success and the status of Collingwood and Essendon. They would be financially even stronger if they had alternative jumpers IMO.
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If we were to have an alternative strip it can't be mainly black as it would still clash. The design is arbitary but it would have to be a lighter colour and the only choice is some shade of yellow if we are to keep it Y&B.
Collingwood I'd reckon have caused many new clashes themselves when they changed their jumper to the mostly black with white stripes. They should use their old "traditional" ::) white with black stripes guernsey when competing against clubs with a mostly dark coloured jumper (Us, Carlton, Essendon, Port Adelaide, Adelaide).
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I don't buy the arguement about Collingwood being strong and traditional and keeping their "traditional" jumper. Look at Saturday night they didn't wear their traditional jumper. They wore an alternative one. In the last 10 years they have made a number of changes to their guernsey.
Prior to Eddie coming on board when they were a financial basket case - they sold out and received extra money from adidas to wear an alternate jumper for away games. The colours might not have chnage but the design did - it had an ugly cartoon looking magpie on the front. It seems to me on this issue the Pies have selected memory loss and as such they cannot be used as example IMO.
The only team (and I am talking about Victorian clubs here) that has not changed it's jumper from it's original design is Essendon. That point was made crystal clear inlast years heritage round.
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The stronger clubs are those with a large supporter base that win premierships consistently. Not having an alternate jumper has had no relevance to the success and the status of Collingwood and Essendon. They would be financially even stronger if they had alternative jumpers IMO.
So why do it? It comes down to ‘what are Clubs willing to do for money’. And these days, it seems that any easy way out is a good option.
The easiest thing in the world for Clubs to do is have an alternative jumper to raise revenue. And if they do that, what else are they prepared to ‘give up’ for money?
For me this is a far greater issue than just having an alternative jumper, because as soon as Clubs and supporters start conceding in one area, for whatever reason, the flow on effect is inevitable, even if some can’t see it. People are now saying it’s ok to have an away strip, if it means more money for the Club.
Survival of Clubs is vital, but at what cost? What if the Club says, we need more money, let’s go sell a couple of home games to another Club. Or let’s move all our home games to Telstra Dome because we are guaranteed X amount of dollars? Or let’s change our name, or …
The Clubs that have changed the most are ‘surviving’. It hasn’t made them stronger, better, more successful or assured their existence. It’s just bought them time and because they’re happy to take the easy money, they never set concrete foundations for a better existence and their methods ensure that they continue to struggle.
And if we’re happy to follow the lead of those who struggle, we should be concerned about the direction our Club is taking.
This competition is already unrecognisable from even five years ago and the only thing that keeps some of us even remotely interested is that we still have a Club we have an emotional attachment to, because we can identify with it.
Things change with time, but how and why they do need to be considered, to determine whether it was change for the better or just change for change’s sake.
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Back to the Tigers of old
By Stephen Rielly
May 21, 2004
For Richmond, the past may be the future, with the club considering a return to the traditional jumper that carried the yellow sash front and back for 82 years from 1913.
The Tigers removed the sash from the back of their jumpers in 1995, replacing the wide yellow band and contrasting white numbers with a black back and yellow numbers.
In a week in which the issue of jumper clashes became topical, with the AFL urging all clubs to produce an alternate jumper for next season, the Tigers may have their answer in tradition.
Richmond chief executive Ian Campbell said yesterday that the issue of reinstating the sash was being considered independently of the clash jumper argument but agreed that the return of the sash could differentiate the Richmond jumper from others it can be confused with from behind. Collingwood and St Kilda jumpers have largely black backs, as do Essendon's, although the Dons have kept their red sash.
"We'll go to the membership and see what they think about it but the mood at the moment seems to be split down the middle," Campbell said, referring to a poll on the club's website.
On The Footy Show last night, Magpie president Eddie McGuire said the club was preparing an alternate strip for its round-18 match with Richmond. The jumper would have a white back with black numbers.
with AAP
http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/05/20/1085028471144.html
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Love this bit... MT have you been is discussions with the Mr Eddie ?? Isn't this what you suggested ??? ;D ;D
On The Footy Show last night, Magpie president Eddie McGuire said the club was preparing an alternate strip for its round-18 match with Richmond. The jumper would have a white back with black numbers.
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Love this bit... MT have you been is discussions with the Mr Eddie ?? Isn't this what you suggested ??? ;D ;D
;D Nah more like an attempt by Eddie to divert attention way from the Pies on-field like he did last night on TFS when he started using injuries as an excuse and talked about their membership sales to change the subject. Who can forget the cofuffle he made about the missing middle stripe on their heritage guernsey last year - "We have always worn B&W stripes" ::) .
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Just on Ian Campbell. He was on SEN this morning and KB asked him about bringing back the full sash. He basically said the Club is looking at 3 strips for 2005: the current one, the traditional full sash one and a reverse coloured one. IMO it sounded like they were hoping the members would be more accepting of change if the traditional jumper was brought back at the same time as a new alternative one.
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Just on Ian Campbell. He was on SEN this morning and KB asked him about bringing back the full sash. He basically said the Club is looking at 3 strips for 2005: the current one, the traditional full sash one and a reverse coloured one. IMO it sounded like they were hoping the members would be more accepting of change if the traditional jumper was brought back at the same time as a new alternative one.
I got the same impression MT.
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As was mentioned in the Fighting Tiger the Club is seriously looking at bringing back the full sash:
Tigers back sash
Richmond may have found the answer to the AFL's growing push for clubs to design alternate strips in its proud history...
For next season, the Tigers are seriously contemplating reintroducing the yellow sash on the back of their jumper, with a white number, which they abondoned at the end of the 1994 season in favor of an all-black back with yellow number.
It is believed such a move would help distinguish Richmond's guernsey from teams with dark-color backs, including Carlton, St Kilda, Collingwood (ed. ::) ) and Essendon.
The full-sash jumper was worn by the Tigers in their 10 premiership wins, so it has plenty of appeal from a traditionalist perspective, as well as in a practical sense as a potential 'clash' strip.
There's also thoughts being given to a third guernsey design for next season - yellow with a black sash and black number.
This reversible option also could be a clash unifrom or a pre-season strip. At this stage, the Club hasn't settled on any of the designs or, indeed, when they would be used.
Although one of hte problems in the past with the sash on the back was deciphering the white number, it's felt this time round that can be resolved by the designers.
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Although one of hte problems in the past with the sash on the back was deciphering the white number, it's felt this time round that can be resolved by the designers.
Return back to a thinner sash (pre-1974/75) and/or at least put a thick black outline around the white numbers ;).
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I dont have a problem with an alternate strip, but maybe the members should vote on the one they like. I think we should bring the stripe back to our backs!!
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I actually like a reverse color one.
I am against going back to the orginal one.
I like our jumper at present and think the reverse might be the way to go.
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I beleive they should wear the current jumper for away games, our traditional, back sashed one (with a black outline around the nunbers, as MT mentioned) for home games, and an alternative, reversed, yellow based jumper for clash games a few games a year - mainly against west coast and adelaide as we seem to clash the most against them.
Introducing the 2 other jumpers next year would be great for merchandis sales. It would also please the traditionalist as the old back sashed one is brought back.
Do it tigers.
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I dont have a problem with an alternate strip, but maybe the members should vote on the one they like. I think we should bring the stripe back to our backs!!
I thought it was in the Club's constitution that members have to vote for any change in the jumper, yet we never got a vote when they took the sash off the back at the end of 1994.
Not that it seems to matter whether Clubs have these things in their constitution ot not, because the AFL owns the rights to the jumpers anyway. Seems a redundant clause to have if that's the case.
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I thought it was in the Club's constitution that members have to vote for any change in the jumper, yet we never got a vote when they took the sash off the back at the end of 1994.
Not that it seems to matter whether Clubs have these things in their constitution ot not, because the AFL owns the rights to the jumpers anyway. Seems a redundant clause to have if that's the case.
This is what the RFC Constitution says TS:
Section 1. PRELIMINARY
1.1 The Club is established for the objects and under the terms and conditions set out in the Memorandum of Association of the Club.
1.2 The name of the Club shall be "Richmond Football Club Limited".
1.3 The principal colours of the Club shall be yellow and black and the uniform worn shall be such as is approved from time to time by the Australian Football League in accordance with its Rules.
1.4 The name of the Club shall not be changed except by special resolution and the principal colours of the Club shall not be changed except with the approval of fifty per cent of the members present and entitled to vote at a General Meeting.
We get to vote on a change to the name and colours of the Club but not the design of the guernsey. The acceptance of a new or altered design is up to the AFL as you pointed out TS.
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We get to vote on a change to the name and colours of the Club but not the design of the guernsey. The acceptance of a new or altered design is up to the AFL as you pointed out TS.
I remembered someone once saying that members had to vote on any jumper change, but that’s obviously not how it is.
Cheers MT.
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Does anyone remember us wearing this little doozie against Glenelg apparently in 1978?...eek! :gobdrop
(http://www.angelfire.com/ok/fbtmisc/images/Richmond-PS-80s.gif)
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/fbtmisc/merojumpers2.html
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Apparently the new guernsey will be be made public today according the tiger-talk yahoo site.
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/62006
I only guessing but I wouldn't be surprised if there's two of them like has been mentioned previously. The old full sash brought back as our main guernsey plus an alternative (I reckon for trial during the preseason to see whether supporters like it).
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The sash is back
3:39:56 PM Thu 25 November, 2004
Paul Gough
Sportal
(http://richmondfc.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/178853ak.jpg)
Richmond has reverted to the past as it looks forward to a better future under new coach Terry Wallace in 2005.
The Tigers will revert to their traditional playing strip next season - with the yellow sash returning on the back of the jumper with a white number - after having deserted that jumper at the end off 1994.
In the past decade the Tigers' famous yellow sash has not featured on the back of their jumper - instead replaced by just the yellow number for each player.
And the move has already won support from the Tigers' greatest coach - four time premiership winner Tom Hafey.
"I love the guernsey, I love it," he said at Thursday's launch of the 2005 jumper at Punt Road.
"I think people relate to those things and I think sometimes we get a bit too far away from it."
And Wallace is hoping the decision to revert to the jumper the Tigers won five premierships in between 1967-80 will inspire the current crop of players - who are desperate to improve after winning the wooden spoon in 2004.
"It's nice to see the guernsey back and some of the younger players who were showing the jumper off today (Andrew Raines and Tom Roach) were wearing the same jumper their fathers' (Geoff Raines and Michael Roach) wore."
Wallace said the jumper was part of the "tribalism" that makes Richmond supporters one of the most passionate group of fans in the country.
"I think every Richmond supporter has wanted that sash back on the jumper for a long time and to me a little bit of extra passion doesn't go astray," he said.
The Tigers also unveiled a radical silver jumper complete with Tiger head on the front, which will be worn in the Wizard Cup as part of their new sponsorship deal with Silvertop Taxis.
The return to the club's traditional jumper comes just days after the club secured two of the top teenagers in Australia in Brett Deledio and Richard Tambling in last Saturday's national draft as the positive feeling continues to build at Tigerland under Wallace.
Wallace may have only been in charge for two months and may not have even led his team into battle yet but already his appointment appears to have gone down well with Richmond fans.
Richmond chief executive Stephen Wright revealed on Thursday the Tigers' membership for 2005 is already up ten percent compared to this time last year.
"The supporters are certainly embracing the new-look Tigers for 2005," he said.
"It's even more amazing considering our membership tickets have only been on sale for three weeks so far compared to six weeks this time last year."
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=178855
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Tigers revive sash of success!
3:59:21 PM Thu 25 November, 2004
richmondfc.com.au
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The Richmond Football Club today announced it was going “back to the future” with its playing strip for next season.
In 2005, Richmond will don the guernsey that it wore in all its 10 league premiership triumphs – the famous black with yellow sash, front and back.
The Tigers introduced that fully-sashed jumper in 1914 and wore it with much pride, distinction and success until the end of the 1994 season. At that point, the sash was removed from the back of the jumper because of difficulties associated with deciphering the white numbers.
But, 10 years on, the sash is back – much to the delight of Richmond’s Chief Executive Officer, Steven Wright.
“I think it’s a great tradition. One of the things that separates Richmond from many of the clubs in the competition, is its great history and tradition. The black jumper with yellow sash on the front and back has been worn with great pride and great success in the Club’s past and, hopefully, will be again in the future,” Wright said.
“This is our traditional jumper, and we think it’s fantastic to bring an important piece of Richmond history into the current day, without, in any way, shape or form, taking a step backwards. In fact, it’s virtually back to the future in bringing a fantastic-looking jumper and modernising it.
“Over the past few months, we’ve been looking at a return to the traditional strip, and we’ve come up with what we believe is the ideal solution to the legibility of the white numbers on the yellow sash.”
The new-look Tiger back sash features a white number with a black key-line that enables it to be easily distinguished.
Wright has no doubt the Yellow and Black faithful will warmly embrace the return of the back sash on the jumper.
“I am sure our members and supporters will be really pleased with it,” he said.
“Another important factor to consider, from a supporter perspective, is that the jumper we’ve worn over the past decade didn’t have anything on the back. So, unless you were a player, or went out and got a yellow number sewn on, you couldn’t tell from behind that it was a Richmond jumper. Apart from the important “Drink, drive, bloody idiot” message; there was no way of identifying who you supported.
“Now, however, even if you don’t have a number on the jumper, it’s clear that you’re a Tiger – front and back . . .”
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=178867
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(http://richmondfc.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/178866ag.jpg)
Looks really good IMO :thumbsup (I'm talking about the guernsey Julz lol ;D). The black outline around the numbers makes them very clear to read.
Wonder what this "radical silver" guernsey looks like?
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Richmond chief executive Stephen Wright revealed on Thursday the Tigers' membership for 2005 is already up ten percent compared to this time last year.
"The supporters are certainly embracing the new-look Tigers for 2005," he said.
"It's even more amazing considering our membership tickets have only been on sale for three weeks so far compared to six weeks this time last year."
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=178855
Is it just me or is there endless positive news coming out of Punt Road atm. It's only November and we are in the papers every day - for positive reasons. :thumbsup. What a difference it makes when you have professionals running the joint.
With a decent showing in the Wiz Cup we will threaten to reach 35K members - easily.
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Spot on Harry :thumbsup.
Looks like we've finally got the right qualified people at every level within the Club all moving in the one direction who are each able to articulate their plans and inspire Tiger supporters as well as sell the Club in a positive light through the media. The momentum built up since Terry's appointment is so strong that even a blip like the stuff-up with Rex isn't able to halt it. The Club has just shrugged its shoulders, said back luck and got back on with the job this week.
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(http://richmondfc.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/178866ag.jpg)
Looks really good IMO :thumbsup (I'm talking about the guernsey Julz lol ;D). The black outline around the numbers makes them very clear to read.
Wonder what this "radical silver" guernsey looks like?
LOL - you know me too well MT. I was going to say - stuff the guernseys - taken 'em off!!
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The sash is back :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :bow :bow :bow :cheers :cheers :cheers
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I seen the new pre-season jumper on the TV.
It is just the same as last years, the tiger head on the front and the colour is Silver/Grey
Looks ok
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I LOVE IT, THE SASH IS BACK YESSSSSSSSS
Did I tell you I LOVE IT
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I seen the new pre-season jumper on the TV.
It is just the same as last years, the tiger head on the front and the colour is Silver/Grey
Looks ok
Thanks for that Bully. I saw it tonight on Sports Tonight when they had Richo, Hartigan, Raines and Roach doing a catwalk lol. Last year was all yellow instead of silver/grey but we canned it when the doggies ran out in their ochre colour one.
The silver one looks something like this for those who didn't see it (pardon the dodgy paint job).
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/preseason_jumper.jpg)
Pretty plain and personally not a fan of the tiger head on the front but it's not something IMO that makes you go "OMG NO!" and it's only for the Wizz Cup.
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Lets hope this season's guernsey isnt as easy for opposition players to lift.
What Richmond players were doing by quarter time last season -----------> :bow
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Is it just me or is there endless positive news coming out of Punt Road atm. It's only November and we are in the papers every day - for positive reasons. :thumbsup. What a difference it makes when you have professionals running the joint.
With a decent showing in the Wiz Cup we will threaten to reach 35K members - easily.
Was thinking the same thing HH - looks like the Herald Sun has become our own personal marketing machine. Wonder if the fact that TW worked there for the last couple of years and has a few mates there has anything to do with it ;)
I can't remember the last time the Tiges had this much good publicity.....our sponsors must be rapt.
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I LOVE IT, THE SASH IS BACK YESSSSSSSSS
Did I tell you I LOVE IT
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The sash is back :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :bow :bow :bow :cheers :cheers :cheers
I'm saying what you're all saying ;D
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The thin black outline makes a massive difference - massive. The old one (without the outline) was not easy on the eye as you could not make out the white number from the yellow sash at times. I'm surprised they didn't think of something so simple ten years ago.
Also the new (old) jumper looks so much more refreshing and I think this will reflect the overall outlook at the club. It will be like a completely new fresh start for the players who were zombified during the past few years - ie new coach, and handful of new teamates, new jumper, new enthusiasm. A really good way to rid the cancer of the recent past.
Bring it on !!
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I like :bow
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I'm a traditional girl - like the RFC guernsey without changes - except without the yellow sash on the back - i'm blind enough and can't see who's who at the best of times, but with the sash and white numbers, just makes it even harder.
Alternative summer strip - prefer our traditional one - but if it will generate more money for the club, then i don't see why not.
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I'm a traditional girl - like the RFC guernsey without changes - except without the yellow sash on the back - i'm blind enough and can't see who's who at the best of times, but with the sash and white numbers, just makes it even harder.
On first impressions, i actually think the new numbers are easier to see.
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Also the new (old) jumper looks so much more refreshing and I think this will reflect the overall outlook at the club. It will be like a completely new fresh start for the players who were zombified during the past few years - ie new coach, and handful of new teamates, new jumper, new enthusiasm. A really good way to rid the cancer of the recent past.
I remember thinking the same way when we changed it the first time back in 95 to half a slash. After seeing the traditional jumper linked to flogging after flogging in the late 80s/early 90s, it was like a fresh start. And combined with a winning team that year the team looked stronger and meaner in it. Now the reverse has happened as time has allowed the traditional guernsey to lose this stigma of those terrible years.
Eddie did the same thing when he took over the Pies. Reversed the B&W. Hopefully they'll finish bottom 4 again in the next few years and revert back to their "traditional" ::) mainly white jumper. The current one is responsible for most of the clashes as its mainly black.
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Would you beleive I actually like it? I was against changing back but that black outline has made a hell of a difference to it on the eyes........
I did like the yellow though on the back. It was a pure black and yellow top.......
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I like it too!!! No wonder they had a massive clearance of last years jumpers two fro the price of one, guess who got sucked in and bought a couple for the kids for christmas!!! :P Oh well, at least the dog lead I bought isnt last years model lol
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What do you guys think of the news that 15 out of the 16 clubs including the Tiges apparently have agreed to use a clash jumper in 2006?
No mention of what this clash jumper will be though.
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If its going to look anything like the last couple of jerseys we've commisioned - specifically the wizard cup grey number with tiger head motif, I'm not all that excited.
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I am color blind and the only jumper I have any trouble with against our jumper is Essendon.
I look at the shorts.
Collingwood would not change as if the other 15 changed they would already be wearing an alterative strip
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What do you guys think of the news that 15 out of the 16 clubs including the Tiges apparently have agreed to use a clash jumper in 2006?
Baaaaa, sheep the lot of 'em. Only one Club has the guts to tell the AFL where to get off. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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What do you guys think of the news that 15 out of the 16 clubs including the Tiges apparently have agreed to use a clash jumper in 2006?
Baaaaa, sheep the lot of 'em. Only one Club has the guts to tell the AFL where to get off. :banghead :banghead :banghead
screw the pies, one ion all in! sponsors away strips are the way to go!
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Pies already have an alternative strip. It's their current mostly black guernsey they use now. They should wear their old traditional mostly white one when they play us with white shorts as there never ever use to be a jumper clash
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screw the pies, one ion all in!
Pretty sure I heard Essendon were the ones who voted no.
Better not mention their nickname, apparently it is no longer politically correct in some circles. (probably more loops than circles - fruitloops that is) :banghead
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Baaaaa, sheep the lot of 'em. Only one Club has the guts to tell the AFL where to get off. :banghead :banghead :banghead
It doesn't matter who the Club is, it wouldn't have mattered if 12 out of 16 clubs voted against at the end of the day.....
The AFL have the power to force all teams to have an alternate jumper. This whole "saga" proves how weak the AFL is - they can force teams and haven't had the guts to do anything about it for the last 3 years.
As for Collingwood - they are a joke on this issue as well. As I have said before they concern themselves with their "traditions" when it suits them. They've had as many jumper changes in the last 6 years as Freo and North. If their "traditions" are so important why did the abandon their "spiritual" home Victoria Park for the Lexus Centre? Why didn't they update and improve their "home"?
The only team and I mean the only team who can claim to have never changed their guernsey is Essendon.
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screw the pies, one ion all in!
Pretty sure I heard Essendon were the ones who voted no.
Eddie said on TFS 15 out of the 16 clubs agreed but the Pies didn't need a clash jumper if everyone else did! So he gave the impression the Bombers said yes when apparently they also opposed it. The paper today as WP mentioned says 12 clubs agreed not 15 and the Pies, Dons, Cats and one other (Melbourne?) were in opposition.
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I look at the shorts.
Me too ;)
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The AFL have the power to force all teams to have an alternate jumper. This whole "saga" proves how weak the AFL is - they can force teams and haven't had the guts to do anything about it for the last 3 years.
My argument on this has always been that the AFL should never have the authority to tell Clubs what jumper to wear.
Demetriou says that the AFL isn’t a dictatorship, yet we hear something to the effect that if Clubs don’t willingly adopt an alternative strip they’ll eventually have to.
If that’s not dictatorship then I don’t what is.
The AFL is there to ensure Clubs survive and don’t eat themselves and each other out of existence. How can Clubs have their own personality, individuality and character and maintain their history and traditions if the AFL dictates on any and all matters to each Club? If that’s the case then Clubs could eventually become as distinctive as any DcMonald’s franchise, where they all look and operate the same, just in different locations.
If that's what people want, or allow to happen, that's what we'll get.
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Yes I agree with you TS. The AFL is a dictatorship. Never had problems in the past with not having alternative strips. Even with black&white tv! Whatever happened to tradition - oh that's right we bring it out once a year for the so-called "heritage" round.
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My argument on this has always been that the AFL should never have the authority to tell Clubs what jumper to wear.
Demetriou says that the AFL isn’t a dictatorship, yet we hear something to the effect that if Clubs don’t willingly adopt an alternative strip they’ll eventually have to.
If that’s not dictatorship then I don’t what is.
The AFL is there to ensure Clubs survive and don’t eat themselves and each other out of existence. How can Clubs have their own personality, individuality and character and maintain their history and traditions if the AFL dictates on any and all matters to each Club? If that’s the case then Clubs could eventually become as distinctive as any DcMonald’s franchise, where they all look and operate the same, just in different locations.
If that's what people want, or allow to happen, that's what we'll get.
The AFL have the right because the Clubs gave the AFL the control to do it when the AFL Commission was established. For example each Club doesn't own their logos the AFL does collectively - this is the sort of stuff through the creation of the AFL commission all those years the AFL now controls.
I am not saying I agree with it I am just saying that the AFL have the control to do these things and it shows their lack guts on this issue that they haven't for what ever reason done somthing about it when they clearly see it as a issue. The AFL's job is to make the tough decisions that Clubs wont and don't want to.
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As WP rightly mentioned the AFL owns and controls the logos, guernseys, etc.. of each club. IIRC any time a club wants to make an alteration they need to get acceptance from the AFL. That's why at Essendon even though they have their guernsey written into their constitution they would/will still need to abide by any clash jumper ruling by the AFL.
I've never had a problem distinguishing our guernsey from the opposition and the full sash makes our blokes stand out even more clearly, but if we are "forced" to have a clash guernsey then it'll have to be some other colour other than mainly black such as one that is mostly yellow or that silver preseason top sponsored by silver top taxis :-\.
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Fair enough that the AFL owns the rights to these things, but I still don’t see the need for them to dictate terms where history and tradition are concerned. Why don’t they go deal with the real issues that should concern them, instead of interfering where it should be none of their business, unless things get out of hand or to the ridiculous stage, where Clubs aren’t able to make sensible decisions? What are they, children who need their hands held every time a decision needs to be made? Club administrators must be happy that, more often than not, they don’t need to think for themselves or even take responsibility for anything, because big brother will look after things. And if they’re all good little children, at some stage they’ll all get a pat on the head and a biscuit.
All they seem to have done with these jumpers is to turn the whole thing into a farce. The heritage round, as far as the uniforms goes, instead of celebrating the past, seems to be nothing more than a cringe-fest, especially for players. How some of them are supposed to take their opponents seriously, in some of the get ups some teams are made to wear, defies logic. I’m tipping that at least 50% of the Port players will be wearing their socks down that round. Then again, it’s such a dainty and mesmerising tinge of blue that they could always throw the opposition off their game and wear them up. :rollin
The whole thing’s a bleedin’ joke, especially when the alternative is worse than the original. In one match, St. Kilda played in their candy striped away jumper, in their home game, against Collingwood. The away strip confused things more than the traditional jumper ever could. :banghead
Hopefully some sanity will prevail at some stage and they’ll stop trying to create this perfect world that seems to just become more imperfect the more they meddle with things. The uniforms were good enough before and if they stopped for long enough I’m sure they’d see that they’re more than good enough even now. But this is all so much fun, so why let commonsense and logic get in the way of a good laugh. :help
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On Sport 927 this morning they were talking about Eddie and the Alternate Jumpers saga and Anthony Mithen explained the following regarding the Tigers:
* At the meeting of CEO the other week the Tigers obstained from voting
* reason being: the Tigers have made it clear to the AFL on numerous occassions that they are NOT interested in having alternate strip.
* One of the main reason for the Tiger stance was the fact our Members had made it clear they were not interested
* Jumper clashes were one of the main reasons why the Sash was returned :thumbsup
* The Tigers again explained the above at the meeting and they could see no reason in voting when the AFL has the ultimate say
* however he conceded that if the AFL makes it compulsory then we would have no choice
Mitho also took a shot at the Pies and their attitude to this mentioning the number of times the Pies have changed their guenrsey - been reading OER Mitho ;) ;D
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Why should we Collingwood won't and since we have returned to our original jumper where's the clash, only Essendon who by the way won't change either. If they can't tell the difference between red and yellow maybe they shouldn't be playing.
It's just another AFL ripoff for the fans, when the AFL was formed they were supposed to take care of the licensing agreements of the incumbent clubs who handed over control in the interests of a more successfull comp, wev'e all been duped.
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…wev'e all been duped.
And in more ways than one.
Seems that Eddie wants his Club to come across like the big hero all the time. Good on him for pushing his Club forward, but it just ends up having the opposite effect when you hear the other side of the story. Here we were lead to believe that only one club was taking a stance and it’s nothing like that at all. Wouldn’t want people ‘in the know’ to report what actually happened at the time. We’ll just work it out for ourselves at some later stage, shall we?
Anyway, given the AFL has the final word, and that it doesn’t seem to make any difference what Club’s say, :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead at least it’s something that they do fight for their rights. You Just have to wonder though what direction the competition is taking, as it’s a bit unclear whose needs the AFL are catering to and what evidence there is that suggests we need to chop and change anything.
Never mind that it’s taken over a century for Clubs to build history and tradition; without so much as blinking, the AFL is prepared to cater to those who couldn’t care less about these Clubs and have probably contributed next to nothing to their history. Meanwhile, those who do care and have heavily invested their time, money and energy into their Club, over a number of years, can go take a flying leap. Makes sense and seems fair doesn’t it? :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Hello! All this jumper changing does is alleviate one problem and create another. It seems laughable that we arguably took the sash off the back because people couldn’t read the numbers. Now we’ve put it back because it clashes with other jumpers.
Really? Ya don’t say? And it’s only taken a decade for someone to work that out. :help Wonders will never cease.
Somehow, things seemed a lot clearer before anything was changed. As has already been discussed somewhere before, just make the numbers bigger. It’s not that hard. The way jumpers are designed now, there’s no need for players to tuck their jumper into their shorts anyway and it looks better if they don’t. Move the sponsor’s logo down a bit and make the numbers bigger.
Just KEEP THE SASH, THE WHOLE SASH AND NOTHING BUT THE SASH.[/b]
Thank you.
Otherwise, why would people want to keep putting their money into a Club when everybody else gets to have more of a say in how it’s run than those who financially support it? That’s what I’d like to know.
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* At the meeting of CEO the other week the Tigers obstained from voting
* reason being: the Tigers have made it clear to the AFL on numerous occassions that they are NOT interested in having alternate strip.
* The Tigers again explained the above at the meeting and they could see no reason in voting when the AFL has the ultimate say
But that doesn't fit in with Eddie and Collingwood saving the world or so they keep on shoving down our throats :sleep.
Mitho also took a shot at the Pies and their attitude to this mentioning the number of times the Pies have changed their guenrsey - been reading OER Mitho ;) ;D
Spot on Mitho :thumbsup. We never clashed with the Pies until Eddie brought in their mostly black jumper at the request of their main sponsor to make their logo stand out more. So much for tradition! ::)
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Any idea when our 2006 guernsey will be released (with fatter eligible numbers hopefully)?
The Hawks have there's out and they've supposedly gone back to the jumper of Peter Hudson's era with brown and gold stripes back and front and a black number on a white panel .... don't ask me why! ???
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Don't know about alternative jumpers, but i hope to god we don't use those silver jumpers that we used in the last pre-season ever again, they are an eyesaw! :banghead
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Any idea when our 2006 guernsey will be released (with fatter eligible numbers hopefully)?
Going by todays HUN & Australian: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17172549%255E23211,00.html
it wont be long
"The sponsorship base will expand even further on Thursday when the club announces the signing of international clothing company hummel as its new apparel partner."
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with fatter eligible numbers hopefully
Greenberg on EOTT said about the numbers:
Look for a bigger, bolder number on the back of the famous Tiger guernsey in 2006 . . .
The Club has moved to make the numbers easier to read on the yellow sash, which was reintroduced on the back of the jumper for the ’05 season.
Alleluyah!
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I like the move to the traditional guenrsey, but sheesh the numbers are a bit harder to see
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I was looking at the team photo posted on BF and from Kelvin Moore up the back (behind Simmonds) who is standing sideways, it doesn't look like the numbers have been done yet ???.
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http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/imageResults.aspx?s=ImagesSearchState%7c0%7c-1%7c28%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c1%7c1%2f28%2f2006%7c12%2f28%2f2005%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c2%7crichmond+football+club%7c-8193%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0&p=2&tag=1
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Away strip edict sure to get clubs shirty
Greg Denham
The Australian
February 02, 2006
THE AFL will make it compulsory that all clubs wear alternate away playing strips.
The league yesterday informed club chief executives and marketing managers that they must provide an alternate away guernsey to avoid clashing with similar opposition colours.
Under the heading of updated commercial operations guidelines, a letter from AFL general manager of commercial operations Gillon McLachlan was sent to the 16 clubs.
In part, it read: "The AFL has taken the position to mandate that all clubs must have a main playing uniform and an alternate playing uniform."
It is understood that clubs must provide two uniforms from this season.
While AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou previously tolerated jumper clashes, it was his preferred position that clubs used commonsense to make alternate arrangements.
But the league never previously enforced the change, mainly due to pressure from Collingwood, which has vowed to never wear anything but its traditional black-and-white strip during the premiership season. Richmond has also baulked at an away strip, as has Essendon.
Collingwood president Eddie McGuire is overseas and was unavailable for comment last night but he has been opposed to the idea.
Richmond chief executive Steven Wright last night said the Tigers had been "historically opposed to wearing an alternate jumper".
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,18010983%255E36035,00.html
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I know its a big thing in the NBA and other sports, but i don't think its really a good idea for the AFL.
I'd like to know how Richmonds jumpers clashes with any oppsotion jumpers?
Sure Essendon has the exact same jumper as us but there's one big difference, one is yellow and one is red, get it umpies? ::)
Its time for the umpires to stop sooking and actually earn their money.
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tigers have only opposed bec the skunks and bombers have, " why should we change if they dont" sorta thing.
in euro soccer, alt strips are a common thing.
i dont think its and umpires issue at all, the afl want this soley for the tv audience.
the tigers should be smart and get a sponsor on board and use that as an alt strip. imagine how much revenue the tigers can make if they wore an alt strp that had black and yellow in it, or a tiger and a sponsors theme, ala the wizard cup last yr with the silver top taxi strip
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The sooner short-sighted dictators get the hell out of the AFL the better off the competition will be. I wish they’d mind their own damn business.
AFL dictators should stay right out of things that should be not much of their business or Clubs won’t have an identity to call their own, before any of us have time to blink.
tigers have only opposed bec the skunks and bombers have, " why should we change if they dont" sorta thing.
Any Club should have a right to maintain their identity and traditions, without being dictated to.
in euro soccer, alt strips are a common thing.
Why is this argument brought up each time? What exactly has Euro soccer got to do with the AFL? Different competition, different sport, different continent, different history and traditions. Pretty much different everything. Why do we need to be like everybody else?
With all the rule changes, jumper changes and whatever else that goes on we won’t recognise the competition soon enough. What’ll we do when there’s nothing left to change? Change it back to what it was maybe?
:banghead
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The club should use it to find a new sponsor and get some cash. Most will be against it...but if its the edict of the AFL then we may as well get something decent out of it. Maybe people can put up some nice designs. One I heard about about a while back is an All black jumper with 1 thick yellow hoop and 1 thick white hoop with the numbers on the back above the yellow hoop. Get Telstra to sponsor it via the Yellow Pages.
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No.
We have only just got the strip back on the back, hopefully that will stay, as hard as the numbers are to make out at times.
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I think the only time for another jumper is the pre-season comp. ONLY.
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The sooner short-sighted dictators get the hell out of the AFL the better off the competition will be. I wish they’d mind their own damn business.
AFL dictators should stay right out of things that should be not much of their business or Clubs won’t have an identity to call their own, before any of us have time to blink.
tigers have only opposed bec the skunks and bombers have, " why should we change if they dont" sorta thing.
Any Club should have a right to maintain their identity and traditions, without being dictated to.
in euro soccer, alt strips are a common thing.
Why is this argument brought up each time? What exactly has Euro soccer got to do with the AFL? Different competition, different sport, different continent, different history and traditions. Pretty much different everything. Why do we need to be like everybody else?
With all the rule changes, jumper changes and whatever else that goes on we won’t recognise the competition soon enough. What’ll we do when there’s nothing left to change? Change it back to what it was maybe?
:banghead
tradition died when vfl became afl, tradition was buried when we got rid of our sash!
soccer in europe has nothing to do with us , but we can learn from them also, they have been playing football alot longer than us.
now to have an alternate sponsors strip isnt a bad idea if we can get a million bux out of it, the club is still in debt and so what if tradition changes, our first jumper had black and yellow hoops if i recall correctly.
whether the game is being dictated or not, its designed now 4 the tv audience and 4 entertainment. port adelaide had to change their jumper full stop and they formed way b4 the collingwood skunks.
i dont really care if we have an alternate sponsors strip, its still the same club.
does not matter waht changes are made aussie rules will always be different to all other codes as our game is way different
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The club should use it to find a new sponsor and get some cash. Most will be against it...but if its the edict of the AFL then we may as well get something decent out of it. Maybe people can put up some nice designs.
I agree RT - in a perfect world I wouldn't change it but if the AFL (the 17th team in the competition :banghead) are telling us me must have an alternative then we need to use it to our advantage. Having an alternate strip doesn't mean we have to change our colours - just the design.
One I heard about about a while back is an All black jumper with 1 thick yellow hoop and 1 thick white hoop with the numbers on the back above the yellow hoop. Get Telstra to sponsor it via the Yellow Pages.
I don't like the idea of that RT but I reckon we could do worse than using the predominantly yellow traing jumpers that appear in the Traing thread.
Yellow with a Black tiger head - sponsor logos nice clear - that way we hold onto some of our traditions.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_010206/tambo_cogs.jpg)
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soccer in europe has nothing to do with us , but we can learn from them also, they have been playing football alot longer than us.
What should we learn from them X?
* How to kill off a competition so that only a handful of teams can ever win a League trophy?
* How to kiss loyalty goodbye and destroy the heart and soul of a game because the amount of money a Club has or can make dictates how successful it can be?
* How to ensure that money is the most important factor in any decision ever made?
Yeah sure, why wouldn’t you want to learn from that?
now to have an alternate sponsors strip isnt a bad idea if we can get a million bux out of it, the club is still in debt and so what if tradition changes, our first jumper had black and yellow hoops if i recall correctly.
To some people this is just about an alternate jumper and no big deal really, but to me it’s a whole lot more. If Clubs want to change their name, jumper, colours, song, home, whatever then it should be up to them and their members, not some couldn’t care less Executive Ass. who probably wouldn’t know one Club from the other.
whether the game is being dictated or not, its designed now 4 the tv audience and 4 entertainment. port adelaide had to change their jumper full stop and they formed way b4 the collingwood skunks.
Oh, well that’s ok then. Silly me. I thought they just didn’t care what people thought. And how archaic of me to actually go to the games and think that, as a paying member/spectator, someone would care what I think. Hmm, maybe if I didn’t buy a membership each year and sat in the comfort of my lounge instead I would get listened to. I think I’m starting to get the hang of how things work now.
does not matter waht changes are made aussie rules will always be different to all other codes as our game is way different
If you want to believe that, go right ahead. I can see what’s happening, even if others don’t want to.
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The club should use it to find a new sponsor and get some cash. Most will be against it...but if its the edict of the AFL then we may as well get something decent out of it. Maybe people can put up some nice designs.
I agree RT - in a perfect world I wouldn't change it but if the AFL (the 17th team in the competition :banghead) are telling us me must have an alternative then we need to use it to our advantage. Having an alternate strip doesn't mean we have to change our colours - just the design.
One I heard about about a while back is an All black jumper with 1 thick yellow hoop and 1 thick white hoop with the numbers on the back above the yellow hoop. Get Telstra to sponsor it via the Yellow Pages.
I don't like the idea of that RT but I reckon we could do worse than using the predominantly yellow traing jumpers that appear in the Traing thread.
Yellow with a Black tiger head - sponsor logos nice clear - that way we hold onto some of our traditions.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_010206/tambo_cogs.jpg)
I quite like that top and wouldn't mind if it were our alternate strip.
I don't see the big deal with alternate strips, if anything it will increase merchandise income. We need to be on the front foot with such issues and become more innovative as the AFL is an evolving creature and we need to keep pace. Our membership numbers alone won't ensure our survival. It's those teams who refuse to adapt to change that will find it hardest to survive.
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soccer in europe has nothing to do with us , but we can learn from them also, they have been playing football alot longer than us.
What should we learn from them X?
* How to kill off a competition so that only a handful of teams can ever win a League trophy?
* How to kiss loyalty goodbye and destroy the heart and soul of a game because the amount of money a Club has or can make dictates how successful it can be?
* How to ensure that money is the most important factor in any decision ever made?
u missed the boat , those things have already happened . u cant change that. its like the rich get richer and poor get poorer, does not matter who is in government and what policy or tax system is in place its just a fact of life. and b4 the afl became afl, the vfl was always dominated by money- the richer clubs at the time.
loyalty left afl along time ago but we still support our teams.
we cant live in the past, its very romantic to thinlk that one day loyalty and the jumper will come 1st and not money but those days are over. we can all see whats happening to football, not just u, but thats just the process of evolution one could say, the game continues to evolve.
so de we shoot dwn jack dyer(rip) because he invented the punt kick which killed off completely the drop kick. traditions and the game changed then. do we do the same with polly farmer for really bringing handball skills to the game. once apon a time kicking out on the full was a ball up, not a free kick. its romantic to think traditions will stay but they dont, they change , just as they do in culture.
u either jump on the train and enjoy the ride and see where it takes u or u give up supporting the sport full stop , because whether we like it or not, things , rules, traditions, jumpers, players, coaches, game styles will always change.
that life
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The club should use it to find a new sponsor and get some cash. Most will be against it...but if its the edict of the AFL then we may as well get something decent out of it. Maybe people can put up some nice designs.
I agree RT - in a perfect world I wouldn't change it but if the AFL (the 17th team in the competition :banghead) are telling us me must have an alternative then we need to use it to our advantage. Having an alternate strip doesn't mean we have to change our colours - just the design.
Agree. If the AFL forces us to have one and we can find a attractive design (the hard bit) then we should aim to get the best deal out of it for the club.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_010206/tambo_cogs.jpg)
I'm not a fan of the big tiger head on the front. If we're going to go down this path and make a quid out of it then stick the club's full logo on the left shoulder with one major sponsor (Motorola) across the front and the other major sponsor (AFG) across the back underneath the numbers.
That training guernsey is also a bit plain. Perhaps add a tiger skin stripes pattern on the top left shoulder and bottom right in a similar fashion to the old claw pre-season jumper so there's some link to the sash of our traditional guenrsey.
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u missed the boat , those things have already happened . u cant change that. its like the rich get richer and poor get poorer, does not matter who is in government and what policy or tax system is in place its just a fact of life. and b4 the afl became afl, the vfl was always dominated by money- the richer clubs at the time.
Yes, but it was the Clubs who determined their own destiny and that’s the whole point of my argument.
loyalty left afl along time ago but we still support our teams.
we cant live in the past, its very romantic to thinlk that one day loyalty and the jumper will come 1st and not money but those days are over. we can all see whats happening to football, not just u, but thats just the process of evolution one could say, the game continues to evolve.
As far as loyalty goes, you cannot possibly compare Euro soccer with the AFL?
In many ways, you cannot begin to compare the two. For those who follow the EPL for example, supporters of lowly teams in that competition would just have to content themselves with having and supporting a team, and that’s all. The notion of winning anything of any note depends almost solely on whether some oil magnate wants to buy and invest heavily in your Club.
I don’t believe we have that same sense of hopelessness with our AFL Clubs.
With the salary cap and draft(s) it makes it very difficult for players to want to leave a certain Club because they have a hard time getting to the Club of their choice. Unlike in Euro soccer where it’s open slather and the highest bidder generally wins.
Trying to imitate competitions that are run in a completely different way is asking for trouble.
so de we shoot dwn jack dyer(rip) because he invented the punt kick which killed off completely the drop kick. traditions and the game changed then. do we do the same with polly farmer for really bringing handball skills to the game. once apon a time kicking out on the full was a ball up, not a free kick. its romantic to think traditions will stay but they dont, they change , just as they do in culture.
All these changes are evolutions of the game. They were made by people who played and were involved in the game, not some executive who wouldn’t know a football from a tomato.
You’re assuming I’m opposed to change. I’m not at all. I’m opposed to why changes happen and who makes them. There’s a big difference between being dictated to by those who have no idea where we’ve been, and/or where we’re going and being led by those who have a big picture view of things. That’s the basis of my argument.
u either jump on the train and enjoy the ride and see where it takes u or u give up supporting the sport full stop , because whether we like it or not, things , rules, traditions, jumpers, players, coaches, game styles will always change.
that life
I expect things to continue to change but, as I’ve said before, I just don’t expect people who shouldn’t be making certain decisions to be making changes they have no right to make on behalf of those who have earned that right. That’s all.
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u missed the boat , those things have already happened . u cant change that. its like the rich get richer and poor get poorer, does not matter who is in government and what policy or tax system is in place its just a fact of life. and b4 the afl became afl, the vfl was always dominated by money- the richer clubs at the time.
Yes, but it was the Clubs who determined their own destiny and that’s the whole point of my argument.
loyalty left afl along time ago but we still support our teams.
we cant live in the past, its very romantic to thinlk that one day loyalty and the jumper will come 1st and not money but those days are over. we can all see whats happening to football, not just u, but thats just the process of evolution one could say, the game continues to evolve.
As far as loyalty goes, you cannot possibly compare Euro soccer with the AFL?
In many ways, you cannot begin to compare the two. For those who follow the EPL for example, supporters of lowly teams in that competition would just have to content themselves with having and supporting a team, and that’s all. The notion of winning anything of any note depends almost solely on whether some oil magnate wants to buy and invest heavily in your Club.
I don’t believe we have that same sense of hopelessness with our AFL Clubs.
With the salary cap and draft(s) it makes it very difficult for players to want to leave a certain Club because they have a hard time getting to the Club of their choice. Unlike in Euro soccer where it’s open slather and the highest bidder generally wins.
Trying to imitate competitions that are run in a completely different way is asking for trouble.
so de we shoot dwn jack dyer(rip) because he invented the punt kick which killed off completely the drop kick. traditions and the game changed then. do we do the same with polly farmer for really bringing handball skills to the game. once apon a time kicking out on the full was a ball up, not a free kick. its romantic to think traditions will stay but they dont, they change , just as they do in culture.
All these changes are evolutions of the game. They were made by people who played and were involved in the game, not some executive who wouldn’t know a football from a tomato.
You’re assuming I’m opposed to change. I’m not at all. I’m opposed to why changes happen and who makes them. There’s a big difference between being dictated to by those who have no idea where we’ve been, and/or where we’re going and being led by those who have a big picture view of things. That’s the basis of my argument.
u either jump on the train and enjoy the ride and see where it takes u or u give up supporting the sport full stop , because whether we like it or not, things , rules, traditions, jumpers, players, coaches, game styles will always change.
that life
I expect things to continue to change but, as I’ve said before, I just don’t expect people who shouldn’t be making certain decisions to be making changes they have no right to make on behalf of those who have earned that right. That’s all.
i know where u are coming from and i know what u say is correct. i dont follow epl, i follow seria A in italy.
personally i dont wanna see us change our strip, and when we got the sash back i felt like a soldier in a whore house :clapping, as happy as a kid in a lolly shop!
unfortunately we are at an era where vladimir dimitriou thinks he is fidel castro, and i just think if we have to change cos they say so , lets try and make the most of it. the afl basically own all the clubs, they are like the mafia, u cant beat them
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Enjoying the debate surrounding the alternative strip on OER.
IMO, an alternative strip would be once every 2 years (away against the Bummers), and would enable a tie-in with the Dreamtime game.
As long as the alternative jumper is allocated to this specific event (and not used in finals), I would happily support the amendment.
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can someone do up the design on a package i was talking about before
all black jumper
yellow hoop
white hoop
there is a small gap between both hoops according to the goss. so basically
black top
yellow hoop
small black hoop
white hoop
black bottom
anyway someone will get what i mean. and im sure if we implemented it and gotta a sponsor itd be worth $1 million to a company like Telstra and its Yellow Pages business.
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u missed the boat , those things have already happened . u cant change that. its like the rich get richer and poor get poorer, does not matter who is in government and what policy or tax system is in place its just a fact of life. and b4 the afl became afl, the vfl was always dominated by money- the richer clubs at the time.
Yes, but it was the Clubs who determined their own destiny and that’s the whole point of my argument.
loyalty left afl along time ago but we still support our teams.
we cant live in the past, its very romantic to thinlk that one day loyalty and the jumper will come 1st and not money but those days are over. we can all see whats happening to football, not just u, but thats just the process of evolution one could say, the game continues to evolve.
As far as loyalty goes, you cannot possibly compare Euro soccer with the AFL?
In many ways, you cannot begin to compare the two. For those who follow the EPL for example, supporters of lowly teams in that competition would just have to content themselves with having and supporting a team, and that’s all. The notion of winning anything of any note depends almost solely on whether some oil magnate wants to buy and invest heavily in your Club.
I don’t believe we have that same sense of hopelessness with our AFL Clubs.
With the salary cap and draft(s) it makes it very difficult for players to want to leave a certain Club because they have a hard time getting to the Club of their choice. Unlike in Euro soccer where it’s open slather and the highest bidder generally wins.
Trying to imitate competitions that are run in a completely different way is asking for trouble.
so de we shoot dwn jack dyer(rip) because he invented the punt kick which killed off completely the drop kick. traditions and the game changed then. do we do the same with polly farmer for really bringing handball skills to the game. once apon a time kicking out on the full was a ball up, not a free kick. its romantic to think traditions will stay but they dont, they change , just as they do in culture.
All these changes are evolutions of the game. They were made by people who played and were involved in the game, not some executive who wouldn’t know a football from a tomato.
You’re assuming I’m opposed to change. I’m not at all. I’m opposed to why changes happen and who makes them. There’s a big difference between being dictated to by those who have no idea where we’ve been, and/or where we’re going and being led by those who have a big picture view of things. That’s the basis of my argument.
u either jump on the train and enjoy the ride and see where it takes u or u give up supporting the sport full stop , because whether we like it or not, things , rules, traditions, jumpers, players, coaches, game styles will always change.
that life
I expect things to continue to change but, as I’ve said before, I just don’t expect people who shouldn’t be making certain decisions to be making changes they have no right to make on behalf of those who have earned that right. That’s all.
personally i dont wanna see us change our strip, and when we got the sash back i felt like a soldier in a whore house :clapping, as happy as a kid in a lolly shop!
Yeah, can't beat the original
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can someone do up the design on a package i was talking about before
all black jumper
yellow hoop
white hoop
there is a small gap between both hoops according to the goss. so basically
black top
yellow hoop
small black hoop
white hoop
black bottom
anyway someone will get what i mean. and im sure if we implemented it and gotta a sponsor itd be worth $1 million to a company like Telstra and its Yellow Pages business.
Something like this Ramps?
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-rt.jpg)
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I'm not a fan of the big tiger head on the front. If we're going to go down this path and make a quid out of it then stick the club's full logo on the left shoulder with one major sponsor (Motorola) across the front and the other major sponsor (AFG) across the back underneath the numbers.
That training guernsey is also a bit plain. Perhaps add a tiger skin stripes pattern on the top left shoulder and bottom right in a similar fashion to the old claw pre-season jumper so there's some link to the sash of our traditional guenrsey.
Here's kind of what I was thinking of for something completely different :outtahere
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-mt.jpg)
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I was in the US and was watching some highlights of AFL games with an american mate. He was amazed how much alot of the teams jumpers clashed. He said it was ridiculous. I agreed. It would improve the spectacle if all teams had alternate tops.
IMO we clash with Essendon, Adelaide and Westcoast. Watching Melbourne v Essendon is a joke so is Carlton v Black based collingwood. Carlton v the original st.kilda was also a severe clash. I don't know why Collingwood don't re-introduce their white base jumper as an alternate as IMO it looks better and creates the perfect alternate top. Wear the white base jumper when playing away to a predominately dark opposition with the white shorts.
The Hawks and Swans don't have to worry as their jumpers don't clash with anyone. The roos and saints have adopted the alternate jumpers so they're ok.
It's such a good marketing opportunity and I don't see why people are getting so precious about it. It's not like the AFL are telling us to get rid of our original guernsey - that will never happen. There's nothing wrong with adding some change and spice to the clubs.
I'm all for a yellow based alternate strip, but the only problem I have is that it doesn't look good with the white shorts. To overcome this we could incorporate some white in our design to better match the shorts. Possibly white down the sides with a black border, and/or white borders around the black numbers (like what brisbane and adelaide have) and/or a white border around the black sash (like what west coast have around their gold wings). Also maybe white borders around the black neckline and shoulderline. If we were to have the tiger head instead of the black sash, maybe incorporate white into the tiger head, similar to our emblem.
Mighty, could you give this design a go if you've got time.
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I'm not a fan of the big tiger head on the front. If we're going to go down this path and make a quid out of it then stick the club's full logo on the left shoulder with one major sponsor (Motorola) across the front and the other major sponsor (AFG) across the back underneath the numbers.
That training guernsey is also a bit plain. Perhaps add a tiger skin stripes pattern on the top left shoulder and bottom right in a similar fashion to the old claw pre-season jumper so there's some link to the sash of our traditional guenrsey.
Here's kind of what I was thinking of for something completely different :outtahere
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-mt.jpg)
that looks good mt
that could work!
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You could always have shirts on/shirts off :lol
Seriously, I like MT's yellow design. The other one looks too much like Adelaide.
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Call me a traditionalist, but I would like to see our jumper remain as it always should be with the Full yellow sash on a black jumper.
Alternative gurnseys are just a merchandisers wet dream. Some clubs in other codes have been known to change their jumpers on a regular basis in the deliberate attempt to increase merchandising profits. I don't want out club heading in that direction. Whilst I think that MT's designs look good, I don't believe it is the right move for the club to head in this direction.
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can someone do up the design on a package i was talking about before
all black jumper
yellow hoop
white hoop
there is a small gap between both hoops according to the goss. so basically
black top
yellow hoop
small black hoop
white hoop
black bottom
anyway someone will get what i mean. and im sure if we implemented it and gotta a sponsor itd be worth $1 million to a company like Telstra and its Yellow Pages business.
Something like this Ramps?
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-rt.jpg)
the white hoop is the same size as the yellow hoop and the gap between the yellow and white hoop is bigger. Anyway thats what people were saying a while back. I would however conside placing the tiger logo where the motorola logo is and then place the sponsor logo just directly underneath it. the one thing in this jumper design which is good is that the sponsors logos are really clear, especially the AFG one, and the number is also easy to see.
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Here's some more from Greg Denham in today's Australian.
I've put in bold what relates to the Tigers and also a comment by Brian Cook from Geelong (about legal advice they've received) who btw always seems to make sense unlike his couterpart at the Pies Mr Swann (who clearly fits in at Lexus because he seems totally deluded) :lol
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Strip rule black and white for Magpies
Greg Denham
February 03, 2006
COLLINGWOOD is only prepared to make a minor change to its guernsey despite an AFL order that clubs wear alternate away strips from next season.
The new edict has forced Richmond, which has historically been against any change to its jumper, to review its position, and Geelong has been forced to come up with a new alternative guernsey.
From 2007, the Magpies will occasionally wear an away jumper with a white back, according to chief executive Greg Swann.
"We won't be changing much," Swann said.
"We reckon we don't clash with anyone. :o Maybe three or four times a season, away against Carlton, Essendon, St Kilda or Richmond, we'll wear the white back which is what we had in the 1990s and have worn as part of the heritage round."
Swann said he was not aware of whether or not Collingwood's proposed strip would meet AFL approval. "That will be as alternate as it gets from us," he said.
However, the Magpies and the AFL appear set for a showdown as it is understood that the AFL has banned hoops and stripes from alternate jumpers.
After several years of controversy surrounding colour clashes between some Victorian clubs, the league announced on Wednesday that it would force clubs to have two playing uniforms.
A letter from AFL general manager of commercial operations Gillon McLachlan was sent to the 16 clubs. In part, it read: "The AFL has taken the position to mandate that all clubs must have a main playing uniform and an alternate playing uniform."
The league never previously enforced change, mainly because of pressure from Collingwood, which had vowed to never wear anything but its traditional black and white strip during the premiership season.
Geelong chief executive Brian Cook yesterday said his club had been directed by the league to abandon its 2005 away uniform because it conflicted with Collingwood and the Kangaroos.
"The decision has the potential to upset members who have the right to vote on a change of guernsey," Cook said. "Our legal advice, however, is that our AFL licence conditions override our constitution."
Richmond president Gary March yesterday said it was not feasible from a manufacturing point to implement the change for this year.
"We'd prefer to wear our normal strip, but we'll raise it at our next board meeting and with members later in the year," March
said. "The constitution is not quite clear. It's mainly about retaining our black and yellow colours, so we need further clarification from the AFL to what they perceive as being a clash. We don't think there are too many clashes, perhaps against Essendon."
Essendon's position on an alternate away strip is not clear. The Bombers have so far resisted any change away from their black and red sash.
Melbourne will wear its predominantly red alternate jumper. Last season it used the guernsey twice, in away games against Carlton and Essendon.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,18022109%255E2722,00.html
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-mt.jpg)
That's what I'd like to see if we have to go down this path which is clearly going to be the case.
However my understanding is the AFL have to approve the design (like they do everythng else :banghead) and they (AFL) will only allow a sponsors logo on the front of the jumper to be a certain size and in a certain position (eg where you currently have the Tiger logo)
MT - you should forward your design the Club ;)
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"The decision has the potential to upset members who have the right to vote on a change of guernsey," Cook said. "Our legal advice, however, is that our AFL licence conditions override our constitution."
I've heard that before in regards to Essendon's constitution being not worth the paper it's written on. The AFL own the guernseys, logos, etc so what they say goes :-\.
Richmond president Gary March yesterday said it was not feasible from a manufacturing point to implement the change for this year.
"We'd prefer to wear our normal strip, but we'll raise it at our next board meeting and with members later in the year," March
said. "The constitution is not quite clear. It's mainly about retaining our black and yellow colours, so we need further clarification from the AFL to what they perceive as being a clash. We don't think there are too many clashes, perhaps against Essendon."
Some AFL rep. on Sport 927 yesterday said the alternative strips will be introduced in 2007; not this year.
I wouldn't be in favour of a alternative strip if it's not yellow and black still. Imagine the Tiges running around in royal blue :-X. In European soccer, often the away strip doesn't contain the colours of the home shirt.
However my understanding is the AFL have to approve the design (like they do everythng else :banghead) and they (AFL) will only allow a sponsors logo on the front of the jumper to be a certain size and in a certain position (eg where you currently have the Tiger logo)
Well if they are forcing us to go down this path then we should have some reasonable freedom with regards to where the sponsor's logo/name goes on the alternative strip. It's standard to have a simply put sponsor's name across the front of a guernsey in Soccer, Rugby and NRL so it's not a quantum leap for the AFL to follow. Plus if you look at some SANFL guernseys (say Port Magpies) it's virtually a billboard of sponsors above the prison bars.
MT - you should forward your design the Club ;)
Will do :thumbsup
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MT - you should forward your design the Club ;)
Will do :thumbsup
mt, if they do go with ur design, make sure u ask for some kind of royalties or payment as it is ur design!!! :thumbsup
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I'm all for a yellow based alternate strip, but the only problem I have is that it doesn't look good with the white shorts. To overcome this we could incorporate some white in our design to better match the shorts. Possibly white down the sides with a black border, and/or white borders around the black numbers (like what brisbane and adelaide have) and/or a white border around the black sash (like what west coast have around their gold wings). Also maybe white borders around the black neckline and shoulderline. If we were to have the tiger head instead of the black sash, maybe incorporate white into the tiger head, similar to our emblem.
Mighty, could you give this design a go if you've got time.
Something like this?
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-harry.jpg)
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the white hoop is the same size as the yellow hoop and the gap between the yellow and white hoop is bigger. Anyway thats what people were saying a while back. I would however conside placing the tiger logo where the motorola logo is and then place the sponsor logo just directly underneath it. the one thing in this jumper design which is good is that the sponsors logos are really clear, especially the AFG one, and the number is also easy to see.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-rt2.jpg)
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exactly, except the word Motorola is not on it- coz its not allowed to be there under the rules. just the motorola logo under the tiger logo
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the old West Australian state jumper was one of my favorites. Yellow with Black sash.
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MT - you should forward your design the Club ;)
Will do :thumbsup
Just on this, who would be the best person at the club to contact? Trent Jacobs, Greg Miller, ... ?
The last email I sent asking about Tambo, never got a reply :-\.
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Just on this, who would be the best person at the club to contact? Trent Jacobs, Greg Miller, ... ?
The last email I sent asking about Tambo, never got a reply :-\.
A very good question - will need to ponder :help
The more the the better I reckon :thumbsup
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I'm all for a yellow based alternate strip, but the only problem I have is that it doesn't look good with the white shorts. To overcome this we could incorporate some white in our design to better match the shorts. Possibly white down the sides with a black border, and/or white borders around the black numbers (like what brisbane and adelaide have) and/or a white border around the black sash (like what west coast have around their gold wings). Also maybe white borders around the black neckline and shoulderline. If we were to have the tiger head instead of the black sash, maybe incorporate white into the tiger head, similar to our emblem.
Mighty, could you give this design a go if you've got time.
Something like this?
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-harry.jpg)
Great effort mighty, thanks. I think that'll kinda look alright with the white shorts.
Now could you replace the tiger head with a black sash containing a white border. And could you incorporate some white around the neck and sleave-lines. Thanks in advance.
The reason I'm suggesting we add a bit of white to our design is because black on a yellow base looks very bland (just look at the WA state of origin jumper) and also doesn't look right with the white shorts. some white highlights and outlines would make a world of difference. Just look at Brisbane, Adelaide and WestCoasts minor changes to their jumpers in recent years with adding a bit of white around the numbers or withinh the guernsey design - it's made them more appealing to the eye.
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the white hoop is the same size as the yellow hoop and the gap between the yellow and white hoop is bigger. Anyway thats what people were saying a while back. I would however conside placing the tiger logo where the motorola logo is and then place the sponsor logo just directly underneath it. the one thing in this jumper design which is good is that the sponsors logos are really clear, especially the AFG one, and the number is also easy to see.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-rt2.jpg)
I don't think that'll solve the issue of clashing jumpers. If anything we'll clash more with adelaide.
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Now could you replace the tiger head with a black sash containing a white border. And could you incorporate some white around the neck and sleave-lines. Thanks in advance.
There you go Harry...
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-harry2.jpg)
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I was checking on how the bomber fans were reacting to the idea of an away strip over at bomberblitz and going by a post by Mero (the guy who does the jumper designs at footyjumpers.com ) it sounds like Greg Denham of The Australian may be up to his usual misinformation tricks. Mero said he contacted Essendon, Collingwood, Carlton and Richmond and they all replied back saying there was no letter from the AFL.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=23541&view=findpost&p=522655
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Now could you replace the tiger head with a black sash containing a white border. And could you incorporate some white around the neck and sleave-lines. Thanks in advance.
There you go Harry...
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-harry2.jpg)
Great stuff mighty. I think that looks good.
We should design say 4 or 5 guernseys and then vote on which one we like.
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Now could you replace the tiger head with a black sash containing a white border. And could you incorporate some white around the neck and sleave-lines. Thanks in advance.
There you go Harry...
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-harry2.jpg)
That actually isnt that bad a looking jumper MT
well done if the AFL force us to change then that has my vote :thumbsup
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We should design say 4 or 5 guernseys and then vote on which one we like.
The template used is from Mero's footyjumpers.com site. Then to make those designs I just used Windows "Paint" plus a cut and paste job with pics I had of say the tiger's head and our sponsors. The guernseys are fairly simple to make up.
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I think I'd prefer a predominantly yellow away strip - not that I'd buy one but it should serve the purpose.
Alternatively just go skins for away games. That way we could all go to the games topless and not get arrested for indecent exposure.
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MT have you sent the club some of these designs? If so have u heard back from them?
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MT have you sent the club some of these designs? If so have u heard back from them?
I sent an email off to the Club a couple of weeks back with all of the alternative strips we had thought of included but I haven't received a reply ??? :-\. Maybe they are still in shock lol.
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MT have you sent the club some of these designs? If so have u heard back from them?
I re-sent the email directly to Steven Wright and he has kindly replied :):
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Thanks MT for your email. They certainly are striking designs.
The issue of the clash jumper is one that has generated a great deal of interest. The AFL have advised that clash/ alternative designs must also comply with the following criteria:
- where the home club has a Guernsey with stripes or hoops, the clash Guernsey should not have stripes or hoops
- where the home club has a dark coloured Guernsey, the clash Guernsey should be a light colour.
Thanks for your contribution and we will certainly keep it in mind as we plan for the design over the next few months.
Many thanks
Steven Wright
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- where the home club has a Guernsey with stripes or hoops, the clash Guernsey should not have stripes or hoops
Yet Collingwood is and will be excluded from this rule against North and Hawthorn ::).
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-harry.jpg)
this one would fit the criteria :thumbsup
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-harry2.jpg)
So does this one :thumbsup
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-harry2.jpg)
this one i can agree with, has yellow and black, and has the sash, we need the sash. :thumbsup
i know it looks alot like a WA jumper , but who cares , they just copied our jumper and reversed it :-)
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I know it's not a hoop or stripe and we've been competing against the bombers with the sash for 92 years but the only potential problem with the sash away strip is the AFL may knock it back on the grounds that when we play Essendon both sides will have sashes which sounds like what they no longer want :-\.
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I know it's not a hoop or stripe and we've been competing against the bombers with the sash for 92 years but the only potential problem with the sash away strip is the AFL may knock it back on the grounds that when we play Essendon both sides will have sashes which sounds like what they no longer want :-\.
If that's the case then the AFL have NFI.
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I know it's not a hoop or stripe and we've been competing against the bombers with the sash for 92 years but the only potential problem with the sash away strip is the AFL may knock it back on the grounds that when we play Essendon both sides will have sashes which sounds like what they no longer want :-\.
If that's the case then the AFL have NFI.
I think that's a given in any case ;).
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You want an away strip. Check this out.
Cant say who the designer is but bloody good alternate strip
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9608/tigersawaystripclawsash5qc.jpg
Best one I've seen yet.
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that last jumper is a great design
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Good to see you back on the boards Gusman :thumbsup
That sure is a stiking design and i would think it would be very popular with merchandise sales also.
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You want an away strip. Check this out.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9608/tigersawaystripclawsash5qc.jpg
Not a fan of adding red, orange or whatever to our colours. That design reminds me of the Eagles away strip they had a couple of years ago. It must have looked good on paper because is was an absolute shocker in real life :chuck. IMO if we can't come up with an away strip from yellow and black with a bit of white then there's something wrong.
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Wow, great stuff guys :clapping Some really interesting designs there.
I particularly like the last one that looks awesome. I don't mind the orange tones, looks very Tigerish!
If we can have white surely we can have a bit of orange.
Well done all. :whistle
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You want an away strip. Check this out.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9608/tigersawaystripclawsash5qc.jpg
Not a fan of adding red, orange or whatever to our colours. That design reminds me of the Eagles away strip they had a couple of years ago. It must have looked good on paper because is was an absolute shocker in real life :chuck. IMO if we can't come up with an away strip from yellow and black with a bit of white then there's something wrong.
Totally agree MT. The orange/red looks crap and was used and dumped by the eagles years back. Looks too messy and it's not us. A yellow base with a black design and some white to incorporate the white shorts is all we need.
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MEMBERS TO DECIDE OUR CLASH PLAYING STRIP
Fighting Tiger Bulletin
Gary March
March 2006
You may have seen recently that the AFL is making it compulsory for all clubs to have an alternative playing strip for home-and-away matches.
It is the view of the Club's Board that Richmond would prefer to always play in our traditional jumper.
The black jumper with yellow sash is one of the most famous in AFL/VFL history and a real icon of our Club.
If, however, it is mandatory to wear an alternative strip when we do clash with another team, then we will do so on those very rare occasions.
As a new strip is a major decision for the Club, the Board has decided that it woutd tike our members to select it.
A number of alternative jumpers will be designed over the next few months and we will then post them on the Club's official website richmondfc.com.au, with a voting mechanism to ultimately decide our 'clash' strip for the 2007 season.
This is an important decision to make and we believe it is in the best interests of the Club to allow the members to decide our new alternate strip.
It seems only fair that members, who are our key stakeholders and care so passionately about the Tigers, should have the ultimate say in the guernsey we adopt to complement the one we've worn with such pride for nearly a century.
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I applaud the Club on the approach they are taking with this.
Letting the member's decide is the fairest way.
I am looking forward to seeing if MT's designs make the short list :thumbsup ;)
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AFL marketing gets an itch, tradition scratched
By Caroline Wilson
The Age
April 11, 2006
(http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/04/10/JUMPERS_wideweb__470x241.jpg)
Mooted alternative jumpers for Essendon, Carlton and Collingwood.
THE AFL has provoked a showdown with its most powerful club, Collingwood, by finally decreeing that every club in the competition must design "an alternate" jumper by the end of next month.
While Carlton and Essendon appear resigned to bowing to AFL pressure and are already considering a series of radically different guernseys — Essendon's predominantly red and Carlton's boasting significantly less navy blue — an enraged Magpies president Eddie McGuire last night issued the following message:
"Here's a newsflash for the AFL," said McGuire. "Collingwood wears black and white stripes. There are two things the AFL cannot tell Collingwood. One is where to play and the other is what to wear.
"We have played every game in the history of the AFL in black and white stripes. We've been doing that since 1892. When the competition started in 1896 we were the only club with vertical stripes. We're not about to change that because somebody in the AFL marketing department got an itch."
While the AFL wrote to the clubs in February outlining its new rules, it has only just released the commercial operations department's on-field policy, which states under section 3.3 entitled 'New Playing Strip Designs': "A main playing uniform and an 'alternate' playing uniform are mandatory for all clubs."
The Magpies had said they would be prepared to alternate from a black jumper with white stripes to a white jumper with black stripes. That change is understood to have failed to appease the AFL, which still believes that Collingwood's jumper has occasional clashes — for example, with its next opponent, the Kangaroos.
While the Kangaroos, whose jumpers alternate between major match-day sponsors Primus and Mazda, host the Easter Monday clash, they will be forced to deviate from vertical stripes to their alternative logo jumper to accommodate Collingwood.
"The Kangaroos have worn various jumpers over the years and they are very good about doing the right thing by us just as we support them getting money from the competitive balance fund," said McGuire. "We gave up our licensing rights in the mid-'80s for the sake of the competition and the least the AFL can do is protect our brand.
"I don't know what the AFL's motive is in all this but we don't have much confidence in them. They don't know what they're talking about. Already this year we've seen the Adelaide Crows play in navy blue socks against us and Hawthorn on Sunday with black and white all over their backs. It took me five years to get them to work out what the umpires should be wearing."
Essendon president Neil McKissock said yesterday that the Bombers' new guernsey — which would be worn between one and three times during the premiership season — would be predominantly red.
"We threw around a few designs at our last board meeting and we won't be moving away from red and black," said McKissock. "They have written a rule which has mandated that we wear an away jumper when we play Richmond, Melbourne and St Kilda in away games. It is under the terms of the new AFL licensing agreement and we have to comply because it overrides our constitution."
Carlton chief executive Michael Malouf said: "The club hasn't reached an official position on this, but the board is aware that we need to consider a clash jumper. Our legal advice is that the AFL's licensing rules dictate this and we're looking at designs at a management level."
As revealed in The Sunday Age last May, the Blues have previously considered introducing a silver clash guernsey with a navy crest.
But McGuire remains adamant the Magpies won't change: "We won't be hiding behind our constitution or our members. We won't be asking anyone to legislate on our behalf. Our members know how far we are prepared to go and to be perfectly honest our players are pretty disappointed about this as well.
"This is the thing that binds football clubs together and once you start tampering with your heritage then you're tampering with your club."
The new AFL guidelines also state that each club may wear an "event" playing uniform once each season to celebrate significant club milestones or events.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/04/10/1144521268397.html
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Dead against it - if they don't we shouldn't either.
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As much as I can't stand Eddie, good on him for standing up to the AFL and sticking to his guns.
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Agree Julz, at least Eddie has the guts to stand up for what he believes in and what his members want.
I hope he wins and shows just how weak, lily livered and pathetic the attempts by Richmond and other clubs have been, to actually stand up for the rights of their respective clubs.
If that’s how much it means to the Richmond Directors, that they just fold like a deck of cards, whenever a gust of wind comes along, then God help Richmond and every other AFL club with these sorts of people in charge.
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Sorry, I missed a bit.
Whenever one of these issues comes along, the least the Club can do is pretend to have a backbone. :banghead
And it’d be good to think that those on the Board have some fight in them. Is that too much to ask? :banghead :banghead That’s why they were elected isn’t it? >:(
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As long as it involves yellow and black and does not involve the tiger head motif, then I am happy.
BTW when I was watching the Hawthorn NAB cup game, I wondered whether our players were confused playing against a team predominantly dark and yellow.
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BTW how can Eddie justify his position of protecting the heritage of Collingwood when he recently rubberstamped their disowning of Victoria Park, on the rationalisation that he had to protect the interests of Collingwood from a commercial and competitive point of view. Surely all the AFL is doing protecting its commercial television product and ensuring it remains competitive.
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BTW how can Eddie justify his position of protecting the heritage of Collingwood when he recently rubberstamped their disowning of Victoria Park, on the rationalisation that he had to protect the interests of Collingwood from a commercial and competitive point of view. Surely all the AFL is doing protecting its commercial television product and ensuring it remains competitive.
Eddie was SEN this ranting and raving about the jumper situation.
Tradition, heritage and history he cried and when it was mentioned about leaving Victoria Park for the Lexus centre he said "I did that for the betterment of the Club and isn't the same thing". Traditions, heritage have limitations under the Eddie school of thought and logic :banghead
As for the jumpers - Eddie can rant and rave all he likes about how Collingwood have only ever worn their stirpes and nothing else but the facts remain that they have worn jumpers during the H&A season that have had ugly birds on them (magpies I believe they were supposed to be) check out http://www.footyjumpers.com/ and you can see for yourself. What Eddie conveniently forgets is that when adidas began sponsoring them and they were broke they happily took $$$$$$$$ to wear an alternative strip that had a magpie on it. So I repeat for him to say "we've only ever worn black and white stripes" is CRAP - he's a hypocrite
Agree Julz, at least Eddie has the guts to stand up for what he believes in and what his members want.
I hope he wins and shows just how weak, lily livered and pathetic the attempts by Richmond and other clubs has been, to actually stand up for the rights of their respective clubs.
If that’s how much it means to the Richmond Directors, that they just fold like a deck of cards, whenever a gust of wind comes along, then God help Richmond and every other AFL club with these sorts of people in charge.
In a perfect world I'd prefer no alternate strip but the rules are the rules and if the AFL make it law then there's not much anyone can do about it - again how convenient that Eddie isn't talking about the penalties the AFL may impose if the clubs don't adhere to the rules.
The only weak ones here will be the AFL if they allow Collingwood to operate under a different set of rules to every other team. We can hate and loathe the rule but it is there and all Clubs must be made to follow it - let's see if the AFL have the guts to stand up to Eddie
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All the AFL is doing is justifying the position of someone who has nothing better to do with their time. That’s all this is, because what they have achieved in this matter is to confuse things more than ever.
The point of Eddie’s stance is that he is at least in control of the direction of his footy club. Unlike about 15 others, who are content to follow the sheep herd mentality.
Big difference.
Give some of these clubs enough time and there won’t be any significant difference from one club to another. And I don’t mean in terms of jumpers either. They might as well all come out of the same factory and the same conveyor belt, because all the big decisions are coming from the AFL and not the individual clubs.
All clubs are is a money making arm for the AFL. They dictate the terms and clubs follow their orders. Clubs don’t get to make any big decisions for themselves any more, and basically because none of them stand up to the AFL. Most of them have just resigned themselves to the fact that they are now powerless against the AFL. That’s what it basically boils down to.
Stick it up ‘em Eddie.
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The point of Eddie’s stance is that he is at least in control of the direction of his footy club.
Listening to Eddie this morning ranting he is not only in control of his club but the whole AFL
In 12 minutes he claimed (on behalf of Collingwood) credit for:
Allowing for monies to be distributed from the CBF especially to the Kangas - "Collingwood has helped keep North in business" :o
Saved the AFL/VFl from extinction in the 1980's, 1990's and 2000 onwards (funny in the 80's they were broke and ditto in the late 90's)
By signing (as all clubs did) the licensing rights to the league (jumpers etc) - they saved the league and Collingwood allowed the league to make truckloads of money instead of them keeping the $$ for themselves.
Put simply - if it wasn't for Collingwood they's be no AFL, no footy no nothing ::)
Give me a break
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We can at least admire Eddie for not rolling over and playing dead every time the AFL forces a power play on everyone.
And I’d love someone from Richmond to display even a fraction of the resistance that he puts up.
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By signing (as all clubs did) the licensing rights to the league (jumpers etc)
And that means no club has a leg to stand on when it comes to resisting an alternative guernsey. The jumpers, logos etc belong to the League.
As far as the Pies go - as long as they go back to their traditional mainly white guernsey against us (home and away) then both clubs can be happy.
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As far as the Pies go - as long as they go back to their traditional mainly white guernsey against us (home and away) then both clubs can be happy.
Well Eddie has said that they wont have an alternate jumper as they don't don't clash with anyone. :o
But in the same breath he has said they will wear their mainly white jumper with black stripes (the one from the 70's, 80's, 90's) for games against Carlton, Essendon and Richmond.
But that's not an alternatate jumper :-\ if that makes it clear
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I am colorblind and I have trouble with Collingwood & North Melbourne - Richmond and Essendon. but I overcome my disability by looking at the shorts( And no i am not one of those!!) I leave that to the girls
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As far as the Pies go - as long as they go back to their traditional mainly white guernsey against us (home and away) then both clubs can be happy.
Well Eddie has said that they wont have an alternate jumper as they don't don't clash with anyone. :o
But in the same breath he has said they will wear their mainly white jumper with black stripes (the one from the 00's, 10's, late 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's ;) 70's, 80's, 90's) for games against Carlton, Essendon and Richmond.
Of course changing from a mainly white guernsy to a mainly black one made them clash less with us, Carlton, Essendon, Melbourne, St Kilda, ... ::). The Pies should be made to wear their white one both home and away against us. It'd be stupid if we had to wear our clash jumper against the Pies when there was never a clash prior to 2000 when Eddie changed it to suit their major sponsor.
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By signing (as all clubs did) the licensing rights to the league (jumpers etc)
And that means no club has a leg to stand on when it comes to resisting an alternative guernsey. The jumpers, logos etc belong to the League.
… said McGuire. "We gave up our licensing rights in the mid-'80s for the sake of the competition and the least the AFL can do is protect our brand.
"I don't know what the AFL's motive is in all this but we don't have much confidence in them. They don't know what they're talking about."
And that’s what the AFL should be doing - protecting our brand - because that's why they signed things over, not so they could then be dictated to in every respect.
Especially when they have no real idea why they are enforcing these changes and when the changes are worse than what existed.
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do wot we do at training and have shirts and skins!
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do wot we do at training and have shirts and skins!
Don't make so it easy for Julz :rollin.
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:pray :clapping :whistle :lol :rollin
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I don't mind the alternative strip posted by jezza over at bigfooty (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234031).
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1176/richmondjezza9vn.gif)
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Going back to page 8 of this thread the one below is similar to jezza's but has some white to go with the white shorts
I don't mind this one
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-harry2.jpg)
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I don't mind a little white as tigers have white and yellow fur along with the black, any other color 'No Way Jose"
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I don't mind a little white as tigers have white and yellow fur along with the black, any other color 'No Way Jose"
I think everyone would agree that the colours are sacred Mopsy
Interesting to read this morning that the Pies have actually submitted an alternate jumper despite Eddie's ranting that they wouldn't.
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The AFL is a farce and a joke. On the AFL web site, it states:
“Principles that form the basis for action
The AFL Commission has developed a set of 10 principles that form the basis for action and has developed criteria against which AFL strategies and practice might be judged.
The principles
5. Ownership by football people.
The AFL Commission and AFL club boards are not owners but rather stewards of the community interest.”
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=aflinfosheets&spg=display&articleid=240737
Principles my foot. :banghead
As part of the football community, when do I get to have my say?
And if I don’t get a say, who’s looking after my interests, because it clearly isn’t the AFL and doesn’t look like it’s RFC either?
All RFC has done is say they will ask the members what alternative Guernsey they want.
What about asking us if we even want to change, before it’s decided whether an alternative is needed?
What the hell’s going on? :banghead
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I'm not totally against an alternative strip but the AFL always justify the "football community interest" line by saying bringing more money into the game is in the football community's interest. Problem is more money doesn't always equate to the best delivery of service (eg: Telstra run websites).
The Club on the other hand doesn't have a leg to stand on as far as protesting against an alternative strip. The AFL owns the logos, emblems, jumpers, etc..
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I have always said that in a perfect world I don't want an alternate jumper but AFL footy is not a perfect world - never has been, never will be.
If we have no choice then we have no choice and the president of Essendon said today in the HUN when he told Eddie to pull his head in:
"We don't want to change our jumper. We have never wanted to change our jumper," McKissock said.
"But if AFL rules dictate we need to have a clash jumper produced, then unlike Collingwood and Eddie McGuire, we don't think we are bigger than the game. We play in the AFL competition."
From: http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18803056%255E20322,00.html
They are doing it not because they want too but because they have no choice - it's the rules - same goes for Richmond
He goes onto add that the Bombers are only required to wear a clash jumper against Richmond, Melbourne and St Kilda
"The rule states that we will wear an alternate strip in away games against Richmond, St Kilda or Melbourne. This season that means it would be worn in one game, two hours of football."
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He goes onto add that the Bombers are only required to wear a clash jumper against Richmond, Melbourne and St Kilda
Have we been told which clubs we need to wear a clash jumper against?
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The Club on the other hand doesn't have a leg to stand on as far as protesting against an alternative strip. The AFL owns the logos, emblems, jumpers, etc..
Don’t have a leg to stand on? Sorry MT, but I don’t give up that easily and I don’t understand why Clubs seemingly do. We’ve been referred to as ‘toothless’ in the past, but this beats all.
The AFL are the ones who don’t have a leg to stand on, because they say one thing and do another.
>:( >:( >:( >:( Why in the hell have I been putting money into RFC all these years, believing that I’m helping to retain its traditions and so on, yet some bozo who couldn’t care less about Richmond gets more of a say in how it’s run than us members do?
Which category do club members fall in to, seeing as we’re clearly not part of the ‘football community’ that the AFL seems so interested in, because we’re the only ones not getting a say here, except Coll members?
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AFL clarifies the clash
4:43:44 PM Thu 13 April, 2006
Jennifer Witham
Sportal for afl.com.au
Andrew Demetriou has moved to set the record straight regarding the recent debate over clash uniforms and alternative strips.
The AFL chief executive said there was no intention to adopt a home-and-away uniform policy and that the clash uniforms would only come into play when competing clubs with similar guernseys oppose each other.
"The purpose of this policy is to provide a clear point of difference between the playing uniforms of clubs for the benefit of spectators at the ground, television viewers around Australia and participating players," Demetriou said in a statement released by the AFL.
"A survey conducted by the AFL Players' Association in 2004 indicated that 85.6% or 451 of the 527 players who responded supported the adoption of clash jumpers.
"We estimate a club would wear its clash jumper once or twice per year, depending on how the fixture fell in any particular season.
"There is no intention on our part to adopt a home-and-away uniform policy.
"The policy relates only to when there are clashes between the uniforms of competing clubs and it therefore solely relates to presenting the game so that there is a clear difference in the playing apparel worn by competing clubs."
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=257603
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From a colorblind point of view the only jumper that clashes with ours is Essendon
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The Club on the other hand doesn't have a leg to stand on as far as protesting against an alternative strip. The AFL owns the logos, emblems, jumpers, etc..
Don’t have a leg to stand on? Sorry MT, but I don’t give up that easily and I don’t understand why Clubs seemingly do. We’ve been referred to as ‘toothless’ in the past, but this beats all.
The AFL are the ones who don’t have a leg to stand on, because they say one thing and do another.
>:( >:( >:( >:( Why in the hell have I been putting money into RFC all these years, believing that I’m helping to retain its traditions and so on, yet some bozo who couldn’t care less about Richmond gets more of a say in how it’s run than us members do?
Which category do club members fall in to, seeing as we’re clearly not part of the ‘football community’ that the AFL seems so interested in, because we’re the only ones not getting a say here, except Coll members?
I'm talking legally TS. Morally now that's a different question. The RFC and the other 15 clubs as part of being in the AFL must abide by the rules of the AFL created by the AFL. In the mid 80's all the VFL clubs handed over power to the VFL and now AFL commission which included ownership of the logos, emblems and guernseys. You can argue that that power was never given to do this sort of thing but legally the Clubs have no say whether the like it or not and in the RFC's case I'm pretty sure it's not. If they resist playing in an alternative strip the AFL could fine them, deduct match points or whatever for failing to abide by the rules of the AFL. Call it blackmail and/or unjust but that's the reality the clubs are facing. Eddie is fighting tooth and nail to get their old white and black stripes strip accepted as their alternative strip. If the AFL knocks it back then there's nothing he can do. The RFC doesn't have an old strip in the last 90 years to put up to the AFL as an alternative strip. Neither does Essendon.
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Have we been told which clubs we need to wear a clash jumper against?
I don't know but I would guess and say that our clashes would be the same as Essendon
You can argue that that power was never given to do this sort of thing but legally the Clubs have no say whether the like it or not and in the RFC's case I'm pretty sure it's not. If they resist playing in an alternative strip the AFL could fine them, deduct match points or whatever for failing to abide by the rules of the AFL.
On one of the TV news tonight they were saying that Essendon fans are angry and mentioned the Bomberblitz website starting a petition. It then went onto say that Bomber CEO - Peter Jackson had written a letter to essendon members on the internet (I assume it's on thier web-site) and he made the point agin that the EFC do not want any alternate jumper but the AFL have said they must submit one and failure to do so would result in "significant penalities and fines".
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i still say shirts and skins! :D
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This is my rough skectch of our alternative guernsey.
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9669/alt22zh.jpg)
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Clash strips to be used just twice a season
14 April 2006
Herald Sun
Jon Pierik
THE AFL yesterday moved to douse hysteria over the jumper issue by declaring clubs may only have to wear the alternative strip once a year.
Clubs are in the process of developing a clash jumper after the AFL told them last year it needed to settle on a design by next year.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said the jumper would have to be worn, at most, twice a year.
"The purpose of this policy is to provide a clear point of difference between the playing uniforms of clubs for the benefit of spectators at the ground, television viewers around Australia and participating players," Demetriou said.
"We estimate a club would wear its clash jumper once or twice per year, depending on how the fixture fell in any particular season.
"There is no intention on our part to adopt a home-and-away uniform policy."
Demetriou's comments came after Essendon chairman Neil McKissock told Collingwood president Eddie McGuire in yesterday's Herald Sun to "pull his head in" as the jumper debate became intensely personal.
McGuire wants the Pies to retain their traditional stripes for clash matches, and has described other clubs, including Essendon, as "gutless and weak" for their stance.
The Magpies, though, are the only club to have submitted a 2007 season clash guernsey to the AFL: white guernseys with black stripes.
The Bombers have looked at four designs, with the final tipped to be predominantly red.
Geelong president Frank Costa joined the debate yesterday, telling McGuire the Pies would have to fall into line with every club.
"He might have to be prepared to modify, in fact he will have to be prepared to modify," Costa said.
"As long as he does that in keeping with the spirit of the jumper, so it doesn't get too far away but it falls into line, it will be fine."
Costa said the issue would prove to be a "storm in a tea cup".
"Eddie has just expressed his point of view a bit more strongly than others but, when it's all settled down, the AFL does have the final say," he said.
"That's why we have a body called the AFL.
"I am sure that the official body is not going to be silly and unreasonable, it's going to be sensible to your members. At the same time it will cover the needs of not having a clash."
Adelaide chief executive Steven Trigg urged the AFL to fight the Magpies.
"It's a test all right because Eddie has drawn a line in the sand and it will need to be confronted head-on," Trigg said. "There is an understanding about the cultural background, the history.
"But there is a commercial reality to what we do that we have all agreed to abide by – bar one."
Richmond president Gary March said the Tigers would reluctantly produce a clash jumper. "It's not the time for clubs to be taking shots at each other," March said.
He said Tigers chief executive Steven Wright would meet AFL general manager Gillon McLachlan next week to discuss the issue.
The Tigers' jumper may clash with those of Essendon and West Coast.
The Pies and Kangaroos clash at Telstra Dome on Monday, with concerns the two striped guernseys clash.
But Kangaroos captain Adam Simpson said yesterday he would have no problem identifying a teammate.
"We've been playing in the same type of jumpers for 100 years so it doesn't worry me if we both wear the same jumpers," Simpson said.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18809718%255E19742,00.html
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This is my rough skectch of our alternative guernsey.
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9669/alt22zh.jpg)
Don't mind that one Ox.
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The Tigers' jumper may clash with those of Essendon and West Coast.
Two games a year at the most although I don't think we should change for relative newbies like West Coast who first wore yellow with blue wings in their first year and should wear at least the old lighter blue guernsey.
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This is my rough skectch of our alternative guernsey.
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9669/alt22zh.jpg)
Don't mind that one at all Oxman :thumbsup :clapping :thumbsup
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This is my rough skectch of our alternative guernsey.
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9669/alt22zh.jpg)
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6483/alt33yu.jpg)
Only kidding with the tail on the back kiddies. :wallywink
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I like the name on the back
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I like the name on the back
So do I.
Nice design Ox :thumbsup. Just needs AFG's logo on the back ;).
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I like the name on the back
Got an example ?
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I like the name on the back
Got an example ?
Richo will do
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me on the back
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. Just needs AFG's logo on the back ;).
Im an idiot. :wallywink :banghead
This is what i meant to quote moimoi,not your quote.
So MT,got an xample
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I was a bit confused meself :rollin
I just chucked in Richo to keep you happy lol
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:thumbsup
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7906/alttwin47vo.jpg)
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Better send it off to Greg, Ox.
Well done
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Rival fans defend jumpers
15 April 2006
Herald Sun
Cheryl Critchley
RIVAL Collingwood and Essendon fans will join forces on Anzac Day to fight AFL moves to change their jumpers.
But the way has been left open for a compromise: Collingwood president Eddie McGuire and the AFL yesterday revealed moves to resolve the issue.
Bomber and Magpie fans have started a petition they plan to take to the MCG for the Anzac Day clash. It opposes the AFL's edict that all clubs must design an alternative strip to avoid jumper clashes.
Some Essendon fans are also pushing for an extraordinary general meeting to discuss their club's "defeatist" attitude.
Magpie cheer-squad stalwart Jeff "Joffa" Corfe said Magpie fans were working with www.bomberblitz.com on the petition.
He said fans from both clubs were prepared to march to AFL headquarters if they had to.
"It's a smack in the face of democracy," he said.
Joffa said he and others were happy to join forces with their Essendon enemies: "In all my time in football I've never seen such unification," he said.
Magpie cheer squad and Social Club member Lesley Benham accused the AFL of ramming the change "down our collective black-and-white throats".
Ms Benham said she was prepared to take legal action against the AFL but was waiting to see if there was a compromise. "It's the jumper this time; it will be something else next time," she said.
"You don't touch icons. It dilutes the very essence of what your club is about."
On the matter of alternative strips, the petition states: "We feel this option disrespects the traditions of the game and those who love it."
Mr McGuire, who wished the fans good luck with the petition, said he was "very, very" confident a compromise would be reached.
He was unsurprised fans were acting, given that the guernsey "means everything to us".
Mr McGuire's proposal would exclude clubs that change jumpers for commercial gain from having any say on the issue.
Priority in keeping original strips would go to teams whose jumper designs preceded those of their opponents.
For example, as Collingwood's jumper is older than North Melbourne's, if either had to wear an alternative guernsey it would be the Kangaroos.
"I'm confident we're close to a resolution," he said. "The only reason we have the clash problems is that the VFL/AFL over the years has let clubs wear a jumper that looks like ours."
An AFL spokesman said that, while it had advice it could legally enforce alternative strips, "we're working with the clubs and we expect that we will have this issue with Collingwood resolved".
Internet fan forums show that many Collingwood, Essendon and Richmond fans oppose the change.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18817731%255E19742,00.html
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Rival fans defend jumpers
15 April 2006
Herald Sun
Cheryl Critchley
Internet fan forums show that many Collingwood, Essendon and Richmond fans oppose the change.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18817731%255E19742,00.html
Damn straight - Thanks for chucking us in Cheryl.
If essenscum refuse to change does that mean every time we play them WE HAVE TO WEAR THE ALTERNATE - eff THAT -
BLACK WITH YELLOW SASH FOREVER - :gotigers
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Mr McGuire's proposal would exclude clubs that change jumpers for commercial gain from having any say on the issue.
"The only reason we have the clash problems is that the VFL/AFL over the years has let clubs wear a jumper that looks like ours."
Can't Eddie talk some crap when it suits the Pies :rollin.
I wonder which club in 2000 inverted the colours of their guernsey to appease their new major sponsor and make it's logo stand out more :whistle. Wasn't that for commercial gain Eddie?!
And this darker jumper now clashes with far more sides than the old whiter guernsey ::).
If essenscum refuse to change does that mean every time we play them WE HAVE TO WEAR THE ALTERNATE - eff THAT -
Under Eddie's proposal we will. We entered the VFL 11 years after the original 8 clubs and and we first wore the sash guernsey six years later in 1914. Compare that to Essendon's 1872 beginnings.
Stuff that! I will support what's in the RFC's best interests; not the Pies or Bombers. If alternative strips are going to be enforced then every club should toe the line.
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So MT,got an xample
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/Richmond-Ox.jpg)
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Magpie cheer squad and Social Club member Lesley Benham accused the AFL of ramming the change "down our collective black-and-white throats".
Ms Benham said she was prepared to take legal action against the AFL but was waiting to see if there was a compromise. "It's the jumper this time; it will be something else next time," she said.
"You don't touch icons. It dilutes the very essence of what your club is about."
Let me get this straight (again ::)) at Pie land ........ jumpers are sacred because "It dilutes the very essence of what your club is about"
But....
Moving to the Lexus centre and leaving your "spiritual home" (aka an icon) in this case Victoria Park to rot doesn't "dilute the very essence of what your club is about"
Typical Pie people (whether that's Eddie, his band of merry men and women or silly Joffa) hypocrites :banghead This is why I cannot take their arguements seriously
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I'm talking legally TS. Morally now that's a different question. The RFC and the other 15 clubs as part of being in the AFL must abide by the rules of the AFL created by the AFL. In the mid 80's all the VFL clubs handed over power to the VFL and now AFL commission which included ownership of the logos, emblems and guernseys. You can argue that that power was never given to do this sort of thing but legally the Clubs have no say whether the like it or not and in the RFC's case I'm pretty sure it's not. If they resist playing in an alternative strip the AFL could fine them, deduct match points or whatever for failing to abide by the rules of the AFL. Call it blackmail and/or unjust but that's the reality the clubs are facing. Eddie is fighting tooth and nail to get their old white and black stripes strip accepted as their alternative strip. If the AFL knocks it back then there's nothing he can do. The RFC doesn't have an old strip in the last 90 years to put up to the AFL as an alternative strip. Neither does Essendon.
Let me ask this. If Richmond, Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon and any other clubs joined forces, how difficult could it be to change the AFL’s mind?
I don’t suppose there would be any fallout whatsoever if clubs like Richmond and Essendon had points deducted or were fined for such a thing? Wouldn’t it be a political disaster by the AFL? Surely.
Clubs get hoodwinked into thinking they have no power or say in these matters and this is what ticks me off the most. The Clubs are the AFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The AFL is not and never will be the star attraction, as long as our clubs exist then the AFL can disappear and no one will care. The world could even be a better place because of it. Hopefully clubs are now smarter and won’t eat themselves and each other out of existence. The AFL is what takes the fun out of football.
As the years go by, Clubs are becoming less and less inclined to go up against the AFL on any matter, even sacred issues like the jumper, and that is a major major concern.
The strength of the AFL is the individuality of its clubs. If the AFL wants to dictate every major decision to Clubs, and they don’t dispute any of it, then we the fans are the ones who suffer the fallout. Club executives will just go to some other club or business where they will still get paid. What do they care?
To them it’s all business, with no emotion attached. Bzzzzz, wrong. This is sport and there is emotion attached; there is when it’s Richmond. And club executives and Directors should learn and understand the culture or go somewhere else to ply their trade.
On other threads people are upset because of what happens with web sites. Isn’t it all really the same? Why are people more upset about that than giving up part of our identity, regardless of how many games are involved?
Why will the AFL concede its power and authority on internet issues just because that’s what the fans want? What do they care, they’re only interested in the amount of money a deal can generate for them. And the only logical way to explain the AFL’s decision making processes is that what makes sense to us is not what works for the AFL. Money works for them and any enjoyment the fans receive in return from the AFL’s decisions is purely accidental or incidental.
If Clubs aren’t prepared to fight this issue then what will they fight for? Here’s a hint – NOTHING.
Clubs have no power or authority to do anything. The AFL gets what the AFL wants and Clubs just let them have it. No questions asked.
That's just how the AFL likes it.
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Let me ask this. If Richmond, Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon and any other clubs joined forces, how difficult could it be to change the AFL’s mind?
I don’t suppose there would be any fallout whatsoever if clubs like Richmond and Essendon had points deducted or were fined for such a thing? Wouldn’t it be a political disaster by the AFL? Surely.
The majority of clubs support the move and the AFL claim the majority of players do too so I can't see the AFL changing its mind although with Andy D who knows. Nothing legally can stop them.
When Carlton copped a $1m fine and lost their draft picks was there any fallout? Yep for Carlton but not for the AFL.
As for joining forces - after listening to Eddie on 3aw today he is again only concerned about what is good the Pies. He suggested all Pie interstate games be played at Carrara as a "favour" to the AFL and the Gold Coast. Sorry TS but past history doesn't make me trust the other big clubs any more than the AFL. What happened with the allocation of recruiting zones and how we got screwed because the other clubs who got the best zones decided to not rotate the zones as was agreed leaves a sour taste.
The Clubs are the AFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not legally. The clubs are part of the AFL and being part of the AFL means you abide by the rules set by the AFL.
I agree TS the AFL sees it all as a business but so do club presidents and boards. It seems some only bleat tradition when it suits them.
To me the name Richmond, our moniker the Tigers, the colours yellow and black and our home base at Punt Road oval are off-limits. They are distinctively RFC. The guernsey has changed over time even if we have only known one jumper. We wore for almost 30 years a different jumper and won 2 VFA flags with it. We joined the VFL with it. For 10 years we removed the sash off the back. Did that make us any less Richmond? IMHO no. It's all part of the history of our Club. That's why I'm not totally against an alternative yellow and black strip for a couple of games a year and for the vast majority of the rest we wear the traditional black with full yellow sash. I'm not saying you or anyone else who is stauntly against a change is wrong TS but that's my opinion.
On other threads people are upset because of what happens with web sites. Isn’t it all really the same? Why are people more upset about that than giving up part of our identity, regardless of how many games are involved?
I get upset over the internet rights because the service provided is crap for a major sporting organisation. Compared to what other leagues and codes around the world offer, the AFL website and what it offers is pathetic. It's unreliable and is designed for the benefit of Telstra; not the clubs nor their members. As far as footy and the RFC goes we're missing out because of a shoddy website. It's a different issue IMO.
The only similarity it would have with the clash strip strip issue is if the alternative guernsey the Club eventually chooses looks crap. This alternative guernsey is an opportunity for the RFC as we have the best colours but we need to get it right.
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Watching the Kangaroos v. Collingwood today, and in parts it has been confusing, especially when looking in the background to see if there is a 2-on-1 or 1-on-2 situation ahead. What surprises me the most is that neither team is wearing white shorts.....
One of the things that unbalances this argument is that we always attack this decision from our point of view. The AFL and broadcasters, and rightly so, are also concerned with the 'watchability' of the game for neutrals and non-believers. I could tell you which Richmond player had the ball if you took the player out and I could just see the outline. We know instinctively by the way a player runs, kicking style etc. Yet I have mates up here, some who dont follow footy yet but like the game and some who just follow the Lions who are genuinely confused when we play Essendon because the jumpers clash. I reckon it is the right thing to do and is a small enough price to pay if it is two or three times a year.
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The majority of clubs support the move and the AFL claim the majority of players do too so I can't see the AFL changing its mind although with Andy D who knows. Nothing legally can stop them.
For me, the issue is who decides these things and why. What grips me the most is that everybody seems to be getting a say in this, except Club members. What I don’t understand is why.
Administrators and players go from club to club and have limited stints in the AFL. Supporters are generally with the one club for life. Yet people, who come and go, make decisions to suit themselves, line their pockets, do what’s good for them and then go. Stuff members/supporters, history and tradition. We should just accept whatever decision others make on our behalf, because that’s just the way it is? Well, I don’t accept that.
So pardon me while I continue to rant, until there’s no reason to.
When Carlton copped a $1m fine and lost their draft picks was there any fallout? Yep for Carlton but not for the AFL.
Just because the AFL has the power and authority to punish, doesn’t make them right. Yet Clubs and their members/supporters are expected to sit back and just take whatever they dish out. Carlton copped their punishment for rorting the system, but who seems to be doing nearly all of the suffering? That’s right, the Carlton members and supporters. Don’t know what happened to those who were responsible for actually rorting the system, but it seems that they simply resigned and hey presto their problem was solved. Bad luck about Carlton and their supporters though.
If other Clubs were to receive similar punishments, for whatever reason, what good would that do for the health of the competition? In hindsight, would the AFL equally punish others Clubs for the same thing, seeing how it’s almost crippled Carlton for who knows how long to come?
Regardless, if clubs joined forces on the jumper issue, how stupid would the AFL be if it took points off Ess, Car, Coll and Richmond, all at the same time? The impact of something like that would be different, compared to only one club receiving penalties. I just think if the clubs were proactive about this then it wouldn’t need to be enforced by the AFL. But they obviously don’t care about it and too bad if the members do.
As for joining forces - after listening to Eddie on 3aw today he is again only concerned about what is good the Pies. He suggested all Pie interstate games be played at Carrara as a "favour" to the AFL and the Gold Coast. Sorry TS but past history doesn't make me trust the other big clubs any more than the AFL. What happened with the allocation of recruiting zones and how we got screwed because the other clubs who got the best zones decided to not rotate the zones as was agreed leaves a sour taste.
I understand what you’re saying MT, but good on Ed for pushing his Club. Wish someone would push ours. If we had some people with a bit of nous, I’d rather take my chances with other clubs than the AFL, any day. But to me this is much more far reaching than the issue of an alternative jumper, because it seems that most Clubs don’t care enough about anything any more and have found their place in the scheme of things. That’s what worries me the most. The majority of them are just sheep. There are issues that the AFL needs to be challenged on but hardly any of them ever seem to, that we know about, unless Eddie’s involved.
Not legally. The clubs are part of the AFL and being part of the AFL means you abide by the rules set by the AFL.
I agree TS the AFL sees it all as a business but so do club presidents and boards. It seems some only bleat tradition when it suits them.
To me the name Richmond, our moniker the Tigers, the colours yellow and black and our home base at Punt Road oval are off-limits. They are distinctively RFC. The guernsey has changed over time even if we have only known one jumper. We wore for almost 30 years a different jumper and won 2 VFA flags with it. We joined the VFL with it. For 10 years we removed the sash off the back. Did that make us any less Richmond? IMHO no. It's all part of the history of our Club. That's why I'm not totally against an alternative yellow and black strip for a couple of games a year and for the vast majority of the rest we wear the traditional black with full yellow sash. I'm not saying you or anyone else who is stauntly against a change is wrong TS but that's my opinion.
All those things are equally important to me as well MT. But as far as I’m concerned, the jumper is sacred too, because there’s only one jumper Richmond has won 10 premierships in.
And sometimes I’m just really really stubborn. :whistle I once heard someone say that we don’t have any traditions in this country. Well, how can we have traditions when we tear them down as soon as someone criticises anything that closely resembles tradition? We bend over backwards to accommodate and please everybody, new or old, so how can we develop any real traditions that way? Why don’t we ever stand our ground, instead of needing to copy other countries, codes of football, or whatever, just so we can feel good about ourselves? This game is unlike any other yet in so many ways we try to make it the same as something else. None of that has ever made any sense to me.
Anyway, now that I’ve got that out of my system… Given the AFL’s record with rule changes and so on, I’d be challenging them at any opportunity, but not Clubs; it seems that they couldn’t be bothered, even if they know the AFL is wrong on certain issues.
If the AFL is the Grand Poobah then what meaningful decision are Club Administrators and Boards involved in? Other than generating money for the AFL, what purpose do they serve? If they are incapable of making fair and rational decisions for the good of the competition then why have them? Aren’t they practically redundant? But seeing as they do exist, what happens to the individual personality and character of a club if administrators are not prepared to challenge the AFL on any important issue, especially to do with their identity?
In any democratic system, people should be allowed to have their say. If the AFL isn’t prepared to listen to those who care the most then shouldn’t we be worried? Some of us already are, because this is just one issue clubs seem prepared to fold on, but there will be others too.
I get upset over the internet rights because the service provided is crap for a major sporting organisation. Compared to what other leagues and codes around the world offer, the AFL website and what it offers is pathetic. It's unreliable and is designed for the benefit of Telstra; not the clubs nor their members. As far as footy and the RFC goes we're missing out because of a shoddy website. It's a different issue IMO.
The only similarity it would have with the clash strip strip issue is if the alternative guernsey the Club eventually chooses looks crap. This alternative guernsey is an opportunity for the RFC as we have the best colours but we need to get it right.
The reason I brought it up was because I’m sure the AFL and Clubs would have received heaps of complaints about the service, yet nothing gets done about it.
But if people expect Clubs to adhere to AFL regulations, when it comes to jumpers and so on, then there shouldn’t be any challenge to the AFL on the internet issue either, because they no doubt have a legally binding contract with whatsername.
And as long as whatsername provides that service, then they would be seen to be fulfilling their part of the bargain. Obviously, the AFL doesn’t really care whether the system is user friendly or not. And if they have taken it up with whatsername you reckon something might’ve been done about it by now. But the two parties have what they want so why should either care if the system does or doesn’t work properly?
In the future, if nobody liked a newly designed alternative jumper then what gives anyone the impression that the AFL would listen to people regarding that either, when they don’t listen to them about issues like the internet now?
As far as the AFL’s concerned ‘crowds are up’. That seems to be their really aggravating response to everything. And no correspondence will be entered into. :P
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Watching the Kangaroos v. Collingwood today, and in parts it has been confusing, especially when looking in the background to see if there is a 2-on-1 or 1-on-2 situation ahead. What surprises me the most is that neither team is wearing white shorts.....
One of the things that unbalances this argument is that we always attack this decision from our point of view. The AFL and broadcasters, and rightly so, are also concerned with the 'watchability' of the game for neutrals and non-believers. I could tell you which Richmond player had the ball if you took the player out and I could just see the outline. We know instinctively by the way a player runs, kicking style etc. Yet I have mates up here, some who dont follow footy yet but like the game and some who just follow the Lions who are genuinely confused when we play Essendon because the jumpers clash. I reckon it is the right thing to do and is a small enough price to pay if it is two or three times a year.
How can anyone believe the AFL when they say it will only be for 1 or 2 games? They are kidding. Try telling South Melbourne and Fitzroy supporters about the promises the AFL made to them once. See how many of them still stand. The AFL couldn’t care less if they tried.
Everyone else attacks this from their point of view, so why aren’t we able to do the same? Why are new people coming in to the game better and more important than those who already support the game and why are we always the ones conceding for others?
If they like our game, they like it for the game it is and the way it is. And they will learn to like it for what it is. If they want something else then go find it, why do we have to erode our clubs and competition to suit them?
If we continue to concede on this and any issue, just to suit everybody else, we’ll have more of a bitsa competition than it already is.
Can’t we stand our ground and tell everyone if they like this competition then they like it for what it is and not what they want it to be. Don't know of any other competition in the world that is prepared to concede as much as this competition seems to.
Sorry Jake, not having a go at anyone, I just get a bit wound up sometimes.
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Copied this over from the Gary March thread. Here's the Board's view:
Board's view is we don't clash with many clubs at all - maybe only Essendon. The board doesn't believe we clash with anyone else but we've asked the AFL for clarification. We will wear an alternative strip if mandated by the AFL but the Board doesn't see the need for us to wear one. March said he doesn't believe it is for merchandise reasons from his sport merchandise experience as some people suggest as people don't wear sleeveless AFL jumpers around the street like soccer supporters do with their short sleeve tops. We want to wear our traditional guernsey and we will only wear a clash jumper when there's and if there's a clash. Not at other times.
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For me, the issue is who decides these things and why. What grips me the most is that everybody seems to be getting a say in this, except Club members. What I don’t understand is why.
Administrators and players go from club to club and have limited stints in the AFL. Supporters are generally with the one club for life. Yet people, who come and go, make decisions to suit themselves, line their pockets, do what’s good for them and then go. Stuff members/supporters, history and tradition. We should just accept whatever decision others make on our behalf, because that’s just the way it is? Well, I don’t accept that.
So pardon me while I continue to rant, until there’s no reason to.
Fair enough TS but it can be argued that when it comes down to our say it was/is in our vote as a member which gets back to that old topic from the 2004 election of the board being answerable to the members at each election. The board is then given the power/freedom to oversee the club's direction and make football and admin appointments but everything still must be done within the confines of the AFL. No club's constitution overides the rules of the AFL. So the boards aren't redundant but they are newted somewhat compared to the free for all prior to 1986 when the clubs individually were incapable of making fair and rational decisions for the good of the competition. The VFL had become a financial basketcase and we along with most of its clubs were in dire straits. We made a $1.5m loss equivalent to 50-60% of our annual turnover in 1985 that crippled the Club for the next decade while we got back on our feet. That's why an independent commission was set up in the first place.
We lack a say IMO because we have been crap for 25 years. In 1980 we were the biggest club - the first club to have one million people walk through the gate. That kind of thing talks. Now the biggest clubs are the interstaters and Collingwood and Essendon. We lost our influence a long time ago and are now back in the pack with the Cats, Saints and Blues.
All those things are equally important to me as well MT. But as far as I’m concerned, the jumper is sacred too, because there’s only one jumper Richmond has won 10 premierships in.
And sometimes I’m just really really stubborn. :whistle I once heard someone say that we don’t have any traditions in this country. Well, how can we have traditions when we tear them down as soon as someone criticises anything that closely resembles tradition? We bend over backwards to accommodate and please everybody, new or old, so how can we develop any real traditions that way? Why don’t we ever stand our ground, instead of needing to copy other countries, codes of football, or whatever, just so we can feel good about ourselves? This game is unlike any other yet in so many ways we try to make it the same as something else. None of that has ever made any sense to me.
The Club broke with tradition when it moved to the 'G to play its home games while keeping its admin/training base at Punt Road. In hindsight it was one of if not the best decision Richmond ever made but I wonder if there was any members' uproar against leaving Punt Road at the time?
Away from football, WSC revolutionised and reinvigorated cricket. Critics said it would destroy the traditions of the game but the traditions are now as strong as ever and we alternate between different uniforms - the traditional creams and the gold and green pyjamas lol.
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Sorry Jake, not having a go at anyone, I just get a bit wound up sometimes.
No worries mate. I must admit it is only recently I have come around to the idea of alternative strips. I should also admit that I am doing this at a time at which my passion for the tiges is on the slide a bit. Don't know what it is, but I live in Brisbane can't be bothered going to the Gabba on Saturday. So maybe my point of view is a result of apathy rather than commonsense.... I'm not sure.
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Fair enough TS but it can be argued that when it comes down to our say it was/is in our vote as a member which gets back to that old topic from the 2004 election of the board being answerable to the members at each election. The board is then given the power/freedom to oversee the club's direction and make football and admin appointments but everything still must be done within the confines of the AFL. No club's constitution overides the rules of the AFL. So the boards aren't redundant but they are newted somewhat compared to the free for all prior to 1986 when the clubs individually were incapable of making fair and rational decisions for the good of the competition. The VFL had become a financial basketcase and we along with most of its clubs were in dire straits. We made a $1.5m loss equivalent to 50-60% of our annual turnover in 1985 that crippled the Club for the next decade while we got back on our feet. That's why an independent commission was set up in the first place.
I understand all that MT. But it doesn’t seem to me that, in this case, the Board has any say in the matter. And therefore no one who has any real affinity for, or is closely associated with the Club gets to decide this issue. It’s basically decided for us by people who couldn’t care less about Richmond. That’s what I disagree with.
We lack a say IMO because we have been crap for 25 years. In 1980 we were the biggest club - the first club to have one million people walk through the gate. That kind of thing talks. Now the biggest clubs are the interstaters and Collingwood and Essendon. We lost our influence a long time ago and are now back in the pack with the Cats, Saints and Blues.
We lack a say because no one says anything. If we have to wait till we climb the ladder to have a say there may be nothing much left to fight for by the time we get there.
The Club broke with tradition when it moved to the 'G to play its home games while keeping its admin/training base at Punt Road. In hindsight it was one of if not the best decision Richmond ever made but I wonder if there was any members' uproar against leaving Punt Road at the time?
Like I’ve said before, the difference with such a decision is that the Club made that decision, with its best interests at heart, not someone sitting in front of his tv who wouldn’t know Richmond from a bar of soap.
What do others seriously care if we play at the MCG, TD, Carrara or outer space, wearing pink one week and lime green the next? If things are going to change and need to change then let people who actually care about the direction their footy club takes to be involved in significant decisions. Because what I really hate about this issue is that everybody else gets to have a say and we’re paid scant regard, if that.
Away from football, WSC revolutionised and reinvigorated cricket. Critics said it would destroy the traditions of the game but the traditions are now as strong as ever and we alternate between different uniforms - the traditional creams and the gold and green pyjamas lol.
They alternate uniforms in one day cricket, not test matches. I daresay that the history and traditions that surround test matches have intentionally been kept separate to one day matches.
And it’s probably fair to say that both forms of cricket co-exist without one diminishing the relevance of the other. That way, not only were they able to introduce a new audience to the game, but they also retained the already existing supporters. If test matches were tampered with, there would be a huge uproar from the traditionalists. And if the one day supporters are no longer stimulated by that form of cricket then they just cross over to 20/20.
As cricket has different forms to suit different audiences, that is their advantage, but if the AFL tries to be all things to all people, with the one competition, realistically, what can the result be, except a mish mash? And it just sounds as though the AFL is trying to attract ‘one day supporters’ to our game and us ‘traditionalists’ have to concede our ground to them, even though they may not stick around for long. And even though there are better ways to attract people to our game.
Why doesn’t the AFL focus on ensuring Aussie Rules is the best spectator sport in the world, because if the game itself isn’t able to attract people then it shouldn’t be up to clubs to concede on their history and traditions, in order to grow the game. It just erodes what has been a real strength of the AFL.
Apart from anything else, until the AFL tampered with things, the jumper issue didn’t need fixing? So fat chance I’m ever going to agree with their methods when they try to attract people on one hand and gradually disenfranchise many long term supporters on the other, for no good reason.
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But it doesn’t seem to me that, in this case, the Board has any say in the matter. And therefore no one who has any real affinity for, or is closely associated with the Club gets to decide this issue. It’s basically decided for us by people who couldn’t care less about Richmond. That’s what I disagree with.
I don't disagree with that TS but that's the nature of the competition. We are just one of 16 clubs. There would be other issues Richmond would do differently as Caro in the Age today pointed out but it's the AFL that decides the direction of the game and has the final say.
If we are forced to go down this path then the Club should do its upmost to make it its decision. There is IMO a huge opportunity in this for Richmond moreso than any other club if we get it right because of our traditions such as our Y&B colours and Tiger moniker. We will still be wearing our traditional yellow sash guernsey for 20-21 weeks out of 22.
I understand TS there's some separation in cricket but I mentioned WSC for another reason too because not only were they were able to find in their way a balance between tradition and new ideas, they were also able to attact a broader and younger audience which is something we must do if we want to maintain and grow a large supporter base. I would say our supporter base is older than most which isn't good for the long term sustainability of the Club. Maybe some of these "one-day supporters" in cricket were fly by nighters but alot them stuck and along with the technical advances, test cricket is now benefitting from their continued support.
We lack a say because no one says anything. If we have to wait till we climb the ladder to have a say there may be nothing much left to fight for by the time we get there.
Even when the Club has its say we aren't listened to because our lack of success for 25 years and shabby finances has made us small fry. The bigger and wealthier clubs as well as the AFL can simply say no to us. Just as you don't receive respect on-field unless you are consistently successful, the same applies off-field.
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I don't disagree with that TS but that's the nature of the competition. We are just one of 16 clubs. There would be other issues Richmond would do differently as Caro in the Age today pointed out but it's the AFL that decides the direction of the game and has the final say.
And that’s what gripes me about this. Clubs are just expected to tow the line and not question anything. How many times have we seen the AFL back-track on decisions they’ve made, simply because they didn’t use common sense and logic to make decisions in the first place and ask the right people for their opinions?
Instead, they seem to fall at the feet of statistics and surveys and when it all hits the fan they have to re-think the decisions they’ve made. If they actually asked those that decisions affect, instead of those who have barely seen a game in their lives then maybe decisions could stand the test of
time and therefore make a whole lot more sense than some of them seem to.
Some things are just trial and error, but there seem to be too many decisions that defy logic and have to be re-visited, time after time.
If we are forced to go down this path then the Club should do its upmost to make it its decision. There is IMO a huge opportunity in this for Richmond moreso than any other club if we get it right because of our traditions such as our Y&B colours and Tiger moniker. We will still be wearing our traditional yellow sash guernsey for 20-21 weeks out of 22.
If that’s what people want to believe then fair enough. But I’ve seen how things work in the AFL and, down the track, it won’t just be 1 or 2 weeks a year. You can almost back it in, because the AFL’s good at making promises and reneging on them. Wouldn’t trust them on this if they paid me to.
I understand TS there's some separation in cricket but I mentioned WSC for another reason too because not only were they were able to find in their way a balance between tradition and new ideas, they were also able to attact a broader and younger audience which is something we must do if we want to maintain and grow a large supporter base. I would say our supporter base is older than most which isn't good for the long term sustainability of the Club. Maybe some of these "one-day supporters" in cricket were fly by nighters but alot them stuck and along with the technical advances, test cricket is now benefitting from their continued support.
Yes, but they did that with a separate competition all together. Whereas the AFL is trying to be all things to all people in our main competition. Wasn’t the pre season comp supposed to be about trialling new rules and having different jumpers and what not, to make it different to the main season?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying don’t try to attract new supporters, I’m saying don’t alienate the ones that are already there. Which is what cricket would’ve done if they had tampered with test cricket.
The appeal of our game itself should be what attracts people to the AFL and the atmosphere at games. But we have to skirt around the real issues and make it the fault of jumper clashes that stop people watching the game.
Even when the Club has its say we aren't listened to because our lack of success for 25 years and shabby finances has made us small fry. The bigger and wealthier clubs as well as the AFL can simply say no to us. Just as you don't receive respect on-field unless you are consistently successful, the same applies off-field.
What should we do then, just roll over and play dead? You’re only beaten if you think you are, not if someone else thinks you are.
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A very wise person once told me that there are 17 teams in this AFL competition we play in.
And despite what Eddie and others may want to believe the 17th team is the most powerful - always has been always will be.... the 17th team is the AFL ;)
;D
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as they say powelly "you cant beat city hall" lol
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A very wise person once told me that there are 17 teams in this AFL competition we play in.
And despite what Eddie and others may want to believe the 17th team is the most powerful - always has been always will be.... the 17th team is the AFL ;)
;D
Nicely said WP. And the AFL is patient when it comes to paying back big time any club that thinks it's bigger than the comp and can do what it likes. 20 years in the case of Carlton and Elliot. If the AFL are consistent, Eddie and the Pies won't like the final decision on their clash strip.
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[And that’s what gripes me about this. Clubs are just expected to tow the line and not question anything.
The old VFL clubs have only themselves to blame for this. Their greed and open chequebook stupidity during the 80's meant they were incapable of making decisions that were in the best interests of footy. Sheesh the RFC was incapable of making decisions that were in the best interests of the RFC let alone anyone else :banghead.
If that’s what people want to believe then fair enough. But I’ve seen how things work in the AFL and, down the track, it won’t just be 1 or 2 weeks a year. You can almost back it in, because the AFL’s good at making promises and reneging on them. Wouldn’t trust them on this if they paid me to.
I'd reckon if the alternative guernsey proves popular then yes we'll wear it more than once or twice a year but it'll be the RFC board making that call.
What I find interesting is that no player I'm aware of has come out and strongly said no to the idea. Buckley towed the Pies line on the footy show but he was so unconvincing and had a broad grin on his face by the end that no one took what he said seriously.
Yes, but they did that with a separate competition all together. Whereas the AFL is trying to be all things to all people in our main competition. Wasn’t the pre season comp supposed to be about trialling new rules and having different jumpers and what not, to make it different to the main season?
Whatever happens the clash strip does need to be trialled somewhere other than a real game first. In fact as it'll be us members who will decide the final one chosen, the club should make-up some proto-types of the choices we will be given as 2-D computer generated images can be quite different to the real thing. Hopefully we learnt that lesson from the numbers stuff-up of last year.
Even when the Club has its say we aren't listened to because our lack of success for 25 years and shabby finances has made us small fry. The bigger and wealthier clubs as well as the AFL can simply say no to us. Just as you don't receive respect on-field unless you are consistently successful, the same applies off-field.
What should we do then, just roll over and play dead? You’re only beaten if you think you are, not if someone else thinks you are.
No the whole club from the president down to the bootstudder works its guts out to put itself in a position whereby it is listened to. It may take a few years but we as a club now at least have some purpose and direction. The sad reality is money talks. For a club like Richmond, only with consistent on-field success will we generate the bums on seats, membership and tv viewers that will make the AFL and others stand up and take notice.
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The Blues are the first of the traditional clubs to unveil their clash strip and they played it safe. It's not a shocker but it's dull. I hope we are slightly more creative with our one(s).
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/carltonfront.jpg)(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/guernseys/carltonback.jpg)
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The old VFL clubs have only themselves to blame for this. Their greed and open chequebook stupidity during the 80's meant they were incapable of making decisions that were in the best interests of footy. Sheesh the RFC was incapable of making decisions that were in the best interests of the RFC let alone anyone else :banghead.
I’m sure if some of the club Presidents, at the time knew how much they were signing over and the monster they were going to create, they would have thought twice about some things.
Anyway, the reality is that it did happen and now Clubs have to deal with the way things are, rather than how some of us would like them to be.
All I’m saying is that if Clubs don’t look after their own interests then the AFL isn’t going to do it for them. Doesn’t inspire any confidence in me, to gradually watch as some of them become sanitised and lose their character, purely because the AFL holds the reigns and its every move is driven by money.
Growing the game is one thing; taking much of the emotion, personality and soul out of it is another.
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Yuck. Hate the Blues new jumper.
Could it be any more boring? Talk about playing it safe. :sleep
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From the AFL: clash jumpers
10:15:30 AM Mon 24 April, 2006
Australian Football League
The AFL guidelines on an alternative clash guernsey for away games has been designed so the AFL can present matches in the best possible way.
The AFL seeks to provide a clear visual difference between the playing uniforms of AFL clubs for the benefits of:
- Supporters at the game.
- Supporters watching on television.
- TV broadcasters describing the game to an average of 4 million people per week.
- Radio broadcasters describing the game to more than 1 million people each week during the season.
- Players – 88% of players in a 2002 AFLPA survey supported the use of alternative jumpers when club colors clash and these figures have remained consistent in recent years.
The AFL has informed clubs that the final design of an alternate guernseys, which are to be used only in the event of a clash when the side is the away team, need to be completed by May 31, to be ready for the following season.
The key consideration for the AFL before any design is approved is whether the guernsey design provides a clear visual difference to the uniforms of other clubs for people at the game and watching at home on television.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=260020
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Just to play devil's advocate - did anyone notice a jumper clash on Saturday night?
Now I'm in favour of a decent alternative guernsey anyway but on the tv both teams were easy to tell apart IMO.
Maybe we need clash goalposts lol. Do what they do in SA and have red point posts so our boys know the white ones are the goals ;).
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Glad you brought this up MT.
I was at the game and saw a replay afterwards. If anyone, either watching at the ground, or on tv, reckons there was a jumper clash in that game then what can you say.
The only time the jumpers clashed was when players from both sides were going after the ball and they crashed into one another. That’s the only sort of clash I noticed.
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There was for me but as I have said before I am color Blind. As long as they stick to black and white shorts I am OK
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Dons campaign to defuse anger over jumper
By Caroline Wilson
May 18, 2006
Essendon has taken the costly step of writing to almost 34,000 supporters in a bid to control the mounting anger among a growing number of members over the club's move to create an alternative playing jumper.
The club has spent more than $15,000 on the mail-out after being accused of ignoring members unable to access the Bombers' website, where it had originally posted news of an information night to be held at the end of this month.
The club has also written to the AFL insisting it should not have to wear its soon-to-be-revealed jumper against Richmond, pointing out to league executive Gillon McLachlan that the two sashed jumpers do not clash, citing the recent Dreamtime game.
Essendon has told its supporters it would face a fine of $110,000 ($5000 fines per player) from the AFL each time it failed to wear an alternative strip in its away games against Melbourne, St Kilda and Richmond.
"Fourteen other teams have complied and as far as the AFL is concerned, they don't see why Essendon or Collingwood should be given any special consideration," Essendon chairman Neil McKissock wrote to the club's members. "We can discuss the AFL ruling further at the upcoming members' information evening, but the reality is that we will have to submit a clash jumper."
McKissock said the club had legal advice that with the Dons having signed a licence agreement in 1985 giving the AFL Commission the power to dictate the rules of the competition, the club's constitution was outweighed. The only way the clash jumper edict could be overruled was if 11 of the 16 clubs voted to overturn it.
The Bombers will reveal several clash guernsey designs at the information evening at Moonee Valley Racing Club.
McLachlan has continued to insist that the alternative strip submitted by Collingwood - predominantly white with black stripes - is unacceptable. Clubs are required to submit alternative jumper designs by May 31, and McLachlan said he hoped to resolve the issue with the Magpies in the near future. Magpies chief executive Greg Swann stressed yesterday that the club did not plan to compromise and would only consider the new strip in away games against the Kangaroos.
President Eddie McGuire told The Age last month that the new jumper had been approved by AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou, only to later be rejected by the league's commercial operations department.
Both Collingwood and the Kangaroos denied yesterday that they had reached an agreement over the jumpers but Collingwood was understood to have withdrawn a threat to ask the AFL that it not be fixtured in away games against the Kangaroos, a club with a low supporter base. The two teams clashed last month over the Kangaroos' insistence on wearing its striped jumper against Collingwood.
The deadline for Essendon members to enrol for the information night was two nights ago and McKissock, who was indirectly criticised by club legend Tim Watson on radio two days ago, will speak to at least 650 members. He will put forward the predominantly red jumper, which has been designed by club sponsor Puma in conjunction with the club's marketing department.
The feeling among some Essendon members is that McKissock should have stood up to the AFL but the Bombers have repeatedly insisted they have been forced to break with tradition - as Carlton has done - and design an alternative strip.
The Essendon chairman will stress to his members that the red jumper could be worn as rarely as once a year. The AFL has not reached a decision on which team will get priority if two clash guernseys come up against each other in a grand final.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/05/17/1147545393396.html
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Bombers see red on strip
Damian Barrett
Herald-Sun
18may06
THE AFL has threatened clubs with a $110,000 fine for breaches of the clash strip rule to be introduced next season.
Clubs have been told $5000 will be slugged for each player failing to comply with wearing an AFL-approved guernsey.
All clubs bar Essendon have lodged alternative strip options for next year. The Bombers will ask for an extension to the May 31 deadline.
Chief executive Peter Jackson said yesterday they would outline a range of options to members at a meeting at Moonee Valley on May 30.
"What we can do is explain the circumstances, they can get angry if they like, but it comes back to needing to abide by rules," Jackson said.
"At the end of the day, the board will have to make the decision."
Essendon says its traditional black and red sash jumper clashes only with Melbourne, and not, as argued by the AFL, with Richmond and St Kilda.
"We haven't finalised (the clash strip) yet but it is primarily a red jumper," Jackson said.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19173493%255E11088,00.html
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If the Crows are wearing a clash strip against us here in Melbourne does that mean we'll be wearing one at Footy Park?
Btw it was bloody hard to read their gold numbers on the red shirt most of the time.
Does anyone know if the Club has been officially told yet who we "clash" with? The final deadline is in only 10 days. Doesn't give much time for us members to select one from a selection of alternatives ???.
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I really do believe we need a alternative jumper for away games but i really did DISLIKE the grey tigers guernsey they had in the nab cup discrasful to our club i would like to see reverse colours ;D
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Essendon are revealing their strips tonight yet still no word out of the RFC ???.
Dons to reveal strips
30 May 2006 Herald Sun
Damian Barrett
ESSENDON will tonight reveal its preferred clash strip guernsey to up to 500 members.
Bombers officials will present at least two jumper options at a members' information evening at Moonee Valley racecourse.
Members will be asked for their opinions, but will not get the chance to vote, with the final decision resting with the club's board.
Essendon disagrees with the AFL on which teams present jumper clashes. It believes only Melbourne poses a clash, whereas the AFL argues Richmond and St Kilda are also problematic.
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Here are the Bombers' 4 clash strip options shown at their club meeting tonight (courtesy of bomberblitz).
(http://www.bomberblitz.com/img/img-forum/clash-jumpers1.jpg)
The preferred option was D ???:
(http://www.bomberblitz.com/img/img-forum/clash-jumpers2.jpg)
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We're joining the Bombers in arguing there isn't a clash.
Essendon chief executive Peter Jackson revealed that the club is challenging the notion of a clash with Richmond, a fight, he said, the Tigers have joined.
Jackson ... who added that his Richmond counterpart, Steven Wright, also has written to the AFL to argue that a clash between the teams does not exist. Since 1998, when the AFL first suggested that the Essendon and Richmond jumpers were confusingly similar, the Tigers have added a yellow sash to the back of their jumpers.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/05/30/1148956348192.html
"Richmond and Essendon are jointly challenging (the AFL) that there is a clash of jumpers," Jackson said.
"And I think we will be successful."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19313282%255E23209,00.html
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The Club is awaiting some samples of various designs for the clash strip which will then go before the members for their voting input. This should happen over the next few weeks.
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The pussy cats have released theirs. Ours must be ready by now? ???
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5179754,00.jpg)
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The pussy cats have released theirs. Ours must be ready by now? ???
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5179754,00.jpg)
those claw marks klook very similar, i wonder where they got that idea from lol :clapping
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those claw marks klook very similar, i wonder where they got that idea from lol :clapping
Can anybody spell "Ripoff".
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Not being the artistic type, but I would have had paw prints for the Cats instead of the scratch marks. Can anyone do a sample for me?
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The pussy cats have released theirs. Ours must be ready by now? ???
My understanding is we've submitted a number of designs to the AFL for approval - once they do that the club will release them and we get to vote on our preferred choice.
Why not do it the other way around I here you say, that is we vote and then submit to the AFL? ??? If we voted and submitted and then the AFL rejected it we'd all be like this :banghead :banghead :banghead
So the short answer is I reckon we are waiting on the AFL :thumbsup
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So the short answer is I reckon we are waiting on the AFL :thumbsup
Sounds like the AFL are taking there time as the club at least a month ago expected the guernsey to be released within weeks.
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Not being the artistic type, but I would have had paw prints for the Cats instead of the scratch marks. Can anyone do a sample for me?
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/catsjumper.jpg)
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LMAO I love it. :thumbsup
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I reckon there is a #6 on the other side of this gurnsey
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Took the words right out of my mouth. I love it. :thumbsup
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:thumbsup
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7906/alttwin47vo.jpg)
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Courtesy of Mero on BB, this demo of the new Lions clash jumper has some familiar claw marks on it ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/rmered/Brisbane-Clash-2007b.gif)
There's also a pic of Port Adelaide's new clash strip on BB too :-X
http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29402
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It's got nothing to do with us as we don't clash with the Saints but their the next club to bring out a clash strip and are copying our members design vote.
(http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/11/23/knAFL_SHIRTS_wideweb__470x283.jpg)
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The Lions have had a dig at traditional big Victorian clubs about being against alternative strips while showing off their new white one.
"We celebrate the past but you've got to move forward into the future," he said.
"We don't want to be wedded to old rituals if they are going to impact upon the viewing pleasure of our fans and members."
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5377177,00.jpg)
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21156748%255E19742,00.html
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The Lions have had a dig at traditional big Victorian clubs about being against alternative strips while showing off their new white one.
"We celebrate the past but you've got to move forward into the future," he said.
"We don't want to be wedded to old rituals if they are going to impact upon the viewing pleasure of our fans and members."
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5377177,00.jpg)
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21156748%255E19742,00.html
I must say I don't mind it - at least thet are trying to be different :clapping
I read the article (can do that when I am stuck at home with the flu :P) and they only club the Lions really had a go at was the pies something and blank and white and white and black ;D
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Mero from footyjumpers.com has posted all the clash strips on BF - Link (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295747&page=25) :
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/rmered/Clash1.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/rmered/Clash2.gif)
Apparently the Saints board ignored and overruled their supporters' choice from two designs.
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Wow - the Bummers and Pies put a lot of thought into theirs. :wallywink
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Wow - the Bummers and Pies put a lot of thought into theirs. :wallywink
So did we ;D.
The bombers one just looks plain stupid.
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Only slightly more thought. What's with the Lions and Cats copying our claws?
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why don't we just go all yellow with black slash ... the other design i liked a lot ...
good to see a better guernsey manufacture in Reebok come along too!
are back numbers look WAY better ...
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Richmond still haven't been added to the Reebok website as a sponsoree. They still have just Freo and the Roos ???.
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The Pies have got out of needing a clash strip thanks to the Roos caving in ::)
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21412448%255E20322,00.html
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The Pies have got out of needing a clash strip thanks to the Roos caving in ::)
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21412448%255E20322,00.html
no wonder the roos are "nothing" and have no respect what so ever in the football word. THEY ARE SOFT AND WEAK!
cant wait for them to fold
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The Pies have got out of needing a clash strip thanks to the Roos caving in ::)
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21412448%255E20322,00.html
no wonder the roos are "nothing" and have no respect what so ever in the football word. THEY ARE SOFT AND WEAK!
cant wait for them to fold
I just want the Pies playing in their old "white" jumper against us as they did for 100 years up until 7 years ago. If the AFL if serious then it's stupid them wearing a "dark" jumper against our black and yellow sash.
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Is the game on the Pies 'HOME' Ground the MCG :chuck
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i think richmond would look good with all yellow and black slash !
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Is the game on the Pies 'HOME' Ground the MCG :chuck
Yep. The 'HOME' ground that now holds their social club :chuck.
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Mike wants us all to wear all-white when playing away ....
... the AFL should explore the idea of basic white as the clash jumper for all clubs.
Adopt the racing tradition: the all-white colours of the club. White with the relevant logo on the front and the numbers in matching colour.
We can't have this ongoing clash of egos and colours, and, generally, the resultant bad taste.
... white is the go. Of all the clash jumpers we have seen, my unofficial straw poll says Fremantle wins: white jumper bearing a purple anchor and numbers.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21662029%255E19742,00.html
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:chuck :chuck :chuck
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:chuck :chuck :chuck
Agree and it still won't solve clashes with Collingwood.
Speaking of clash strips why didn't West Coast wear one against us if the AFL thinks it's such an issue?
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For those that like(d) the idea of a reverse coloured Richmond guernsey as a clash jumper, the original WA state of origin guernsey is basically what it would like:
(http://realfooty.com.au/ffximage/2007/05/16/wbFOOTYcable.jpg)
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At least this week we'll be able to laugh at what Essendon's wearing lol
(http://aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/main/4969.jpg)
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:chuck :chuck :chuck
Agree and it still won't solve clashes with Collingwood.
I always thought that using the Australian sporting colours of green and gold whilst keeping the shirt design (our sash, Pies stripes, Lions lion motif etc) was a workable idea. But everyone I tell it to hates it.
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I always thought that using the Australian sporting colours of green and gold whilst keeping the shirt design (our sash, Pies stripes, Lions lion motif etc) was a workable idea. But everyone I tell it to hates it.
I like many of your ideas and suggestions Jake but that one I'll give a miss lol :inquisition.
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Ch 10 showed some highlights of the Eagles vs Lions game. Kerr and co look good in yellow and black ;).
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What did everyone think of the WA state of origin/reverse Richmond guernsey that the Eagles were wearing last night given it was one of the options as our clash strip?
Here are some pics of it from last night for those that didn't see the Eagles vs Lions match:
http://aflphotos.com.au/search/results/?q=collection:AFL%20Round%2014%20-%20West%20Coast%20v%20Brisbane%20Lions (http://aflphotos.com.au/search/results/?q=collection:AFL%20Round%2014%20-%20West%20Coast%20v%20Brisbane%20Lions)
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dont like that wa strip
btw, how come collingscum, did not wear a 70's guernsey and just wore there modern day strip
i thought in heritage round clubs had to wear something relating to the era they were celebrating
this goes for the aints too, never saw that strip in the 70s
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Not complaining but have the alternative strips been given the flick this year? The Bombers aren't wearing theirs tonight and if they don't have to against the Saints then why should anyone else bother ???.
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Not complaining but have the alternative strips been given the flick this year? The Bombers aren't wearing theirs tonight and if they don't have to against the Saints then why should anyone else bother ???.
For 100 or so years there was no issue MT. Sure there are colour clashes but when you think of muddy grounds in days gone by where players were covered in mud yet were able to pass to a team mate and you look at the pristine grounds they play on now, I think the AFL and clubs a re merely using it as another revenue raiser rather than a sensible solution to eliminate colour clashes. Just think tonights comabatants at Moorabbin. Look on the bright side at least Essendon are not wearing those hideous red shorts that they wore in the corresponding game last season. :thumbsup
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Not complaining but have the alternative strips been given the flick this year? The Bombers aren't wearing theirs tonight and if they don't have to against the Saints then why should anyone else bother ???.
For 100 or so years there was no issue MT. Sure there are colour clashes but when you think of muddy grounds in days gone by where players were covered in mud yet were able to pass to a team mate and you look at the pristine grounds they play on now, I think the AFL and clubs a re merely using it as another revenue raiser rather than a sensible solution to eliminate colour clashes. Just think tonights comabatants at Moorabbin. Look on the bright side at least Essendon are not wearing those hideous red shorts that they wore in the corresponding game last season. :thumbsup
I agree HT the clash argument is rubbish and it's more about revenue (which I'm not against as such as long as the alternative strip looks good). I was just wondering why there wasn't a clash strip tonight as I don't remember any announcement that the clash jumpers were scrapped.
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Not complaining but have the alternative strips been given the flick this year? The Bombers aren't wearing theirs tonight and if they don't have to against the Saints then why should anyone else bother ???.
For 100 or so years there was no issue MT. Sure there are colour clashes but when you think of muddy grounds in days gone by where players were covered in mud yet were able to pass to a team mate and you look at the pristine grounds they play on now, I think the AFL and clubs a re merely using it as another revenue raiser rather than a sensible solution to eliminate colour clashes. Just think tonights comabatants at Moorabbin. Look on the bright side at least Essendon are not wearing those hideous red shorts that they wore in the corresponding game last season. :thumbsup
I agree HT the clash argument is rubbish and it's more about revenue (which I'm not against as such as long as the alternative strip looks good). I was just wondering why there wasn't a clash strip tonight as I don't remember any announcement that the clash jumpers were scrapped.
Yep, agree totally with you guys. The "clash" strip is nothing more than a shallow excuse to justify more revenue potential to the AFL and the clubs. I played footy for about 24 years in a myriad of different jumpers, I'm colour blind (can't tell between a lot of green/red/browns and blue/purples) and I never, ever had a problem with confusing colours during a game, not even in the muddiest conditions. Its a load of crap. Leave the jumpers as they are and let the code grow stronger based on its roots and heritage - that's one thing that already stands us apart from other codes.
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The Herald-Sun survey says the majority of Richmond supporters are in favour of a clash jumper.
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The attitude change is revealed in the Herald Sun Footy Fans Survey, which last month sought the opinions of more than 14,000 fans.
Overall, 65 per cent said every AFL team should have an alternative jumper.
The majority of Carlton, Richmond and Hawthorn supporters have long agreed with the need for clash strips.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23990968-19742,00.html
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100 % behind clash strips, just don't think our jumper clashes with anyone ;D
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Here we go again...
The clash strip debate is set to rage on again this week after the Eagles, wearing their navy and gold ‘home’ strip, and Tigers, in traditional yellow and black, produced one of the worst jumper clashes in recent history.
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=211&ContentID=84548
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I've always thought the ONLY team we have any sort of clash with is the Eagles. Don't ask me why we have to wear it against Essendon. ???
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I've always thought the ONLY team we have any sort of clash with is the Eagles. Don't ask me why we have to wear it against Essendon. ???
Nup Essendon will be an their horrible away strip next week. ;D
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The Roos new "alternative" jumper ??? for when they play the Pies.
(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6397373,00.jpg)
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are you for real thats gay
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That is terrible and 'GAY' as you say :santa
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The Roos new "alternative" jumper ??? for when they play the Pies.
(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6397373,00.jpg)
a copy of argentina's soccer strip
(http://www.lionel-messi.eu/pictures/lionelmessi21.jpg)
and it looks pretty good on these two
(http://images.ausgamers.com/girls/babes/Worldcup_Babes/Soccer_babes093.jpg)
:cheers
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Looks good here to
(http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gamestar/objects/242030_main.jpg)
:bow
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best thing i have seen you post pal.
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best thing i have seen you post pal.
Yes I have finally found your level.
:thumbsup
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The Roos new "alternative" jumper ??? for when they play the Pies.
(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6397373,00.jpg)
How are they ever going to earn any respect in the football world by bending over for Eddie like this
Pathetic
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How are they ever going to earn any respect in the football world by bending over for Eddie like this
Pathetic
Bending over for Eddie whilst wearing powder blue...North are Eddie's bitch.
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How are they ever going to earn any respect in the football world by bending over for Eddie like this
Pathetic
Bending over for Eddie whilst wearing powder blue...North are Eddie's bitch.
Its called shinboner spirit.
Its this mythical being that grows in stature when North start climbing the ladder after they win a couple of close hard fought games against some middle of the road sides and conveniently goes missing when they then get flogged by a better side like Geelong and Port in the 2007 finals series. You should not take this club seriously nor their board nor their fans. How can they have 34000 members and can only draw a crowd of over 40000 when they play an Essendon Richmond Collingwood and Carlton. This club is a joke and their away strip is a joke. What next Maradona will beat the drug testers of the AFL and pull on the guernsey?
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The Roos new "alternative" jumper ??? for when they play the Pies.
(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6397373,00.jpg)
How are they ever going to earn any respect in the football world by bending over for Eddie like this
Pathetic
And how does the AFL approve this when it still will clash ???.
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Were the Swannies wearing a sashed guernsey for a special reason today or is it now their alternative strip? Didn't look too bad either to be honest.
(http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/main/178829.jpg)
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Thought the same thing MT. Looked ok, but I don't know why they were wearing it - surely Carlton isn't a clash with their normal rig.
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I believe it's a replica of what they wore when they won their first flag.
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Sydney wore this alternate jumper as a commemoration to Sth Melb winning the flag in 1909, hence a centennary celebration wearing that guernsey against Carlton who were their opponents 100 years earlier.
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Were the Swannies wearing a sashed guernsey for a special reason today or is it now their alternative strip? Didn't look too bad either to be honest.
Looks better than their regular jumper.
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Looks better than their regular jumper.
Have to agree
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The Crows have a new away strip
(https://console.clubsonline.com.au/shopproducts/images/thumbnail/2010awayguernsey.jpg)
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The Crows have a new away strip
(https://console.clubsonline.com.au/shopproducts/images/thumbnail/2010awayguernsey.jpg)
What a shocker; which means it goes incredibly well with their new logo ;D
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trying to copy hawthorns away tops a little bit.
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:P
(http://www.lions.com.au/portals/0/images_brisbane_lions/newsletter/091113_Image02.jpg)
http://www.lions.com.au/portals/0/lions/newsletters/m091113.html
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:P
(http://www.lions.com.au/portals/0/images_brisbane_lions/newsletter/091113_Image02.jpg)
http://www.lions.com.au/portals/0/lions/newsletters/m091113.html
Oh my god.
That's worse than I expected and then some.
That's not making a new jumper as I expected it to be, it is stuck square in the middle, killing the "Fitzroy" Lion and killing a modern look.
At least Adelaide has completely moved on, while Brisbane it seems are stuck in two minds.
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:P
(http://www.lions.com.au/portals/0/images_brisbane_lions/newsletter/091113_Image02.jpg)
http://www.lions.com.au/portals/0/lions/newsletters/m091113.html
Oh my god.
That's worse than I expected and then some.
That's not making a new jumper as I expected it to be, it is stuck square in the middle, killing the "Fitzroy" Lion and killing a modern look.
At least Adelaide has completely moved on, while Brisbane it seems are stuck in two minds.
They showed on the news Jonathan Brown wearing it and it looks even worse as an actual real jumper than shown in that pic :-X. It looks like a silly preseason guernsey with the bad photoshop lion job taking up most of the front.
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:P
(http://www.lions.com.au/portals/0/images_brisbane_lions/newsletter/091113_Image02.jpg)
http://www.lions.com.au/portals/0/lions/newsletters/m091113.html
Oh my god.
That's worse than I expected and then some.
That's not making a new jumper as I expected it to be, it is stuck square in the middle, killing the "Fitzroy" Lion and killing a modern look.
At least Adelaide has completely moved on, while Brisbane it seems are stuck in two minds.
They showed on the news Jonathan Brown wearing it and it looks even worse as an actual real jumper than shown in that pic :-X. It looks like a silly preseason guernsey with the bad photoshop lion job taking up most of the front.
All they really needed to complete the joke was to have big Jon Brown eating a chocolate or banana Paddle Pop ;D
Good it looks stupid
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It's that time of year again when clubs design new guernseys for the next year.
Here's Geelong's new alternative jumper for 2011:
(https://assets.clubsonline.com.au/assets/console/shopproducts/images/main/Clash-LGE.jpg)
and Essendon has gone from one extreme (real curvy sash) now to the other (dead straight sash):
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs394.ash2/67258_1628195514146_1514337606_31558585_5187114_n.jpg)
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It's that time of year again when clubs design new guernseys for the next year.
Here's Geelong's new alternative jumper for 2011:
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and Essendon has gone from one extreme (real curvy sash) now to the other (dead straight sash):
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I don't mind Geelong's one but how the F is Essendon's an 'alternative?
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It's that time of year again when clubs design new guernseys for the next year.
Here's Geelong's new alternative jumper for 2011:
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and Essendon has gone from one extreme (real curvy sash) now to the other (dead straight sash):
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I don't mind Geelong's one but how the F is Essendon's an 'alternative?
Sorry smokey that's my fault. That Essendon guernsey with the straight sash will be their normal strip for 2011. I just didn't want to start a new thread about it ;).
Just out of interest here are the apparent apparel sponsors for next year:
ISC - 4 ............. Fremantle, Sydney, Geelong, St Kilda
KooGa - 3 ......... Western Bulldogs, Brisbane, Richmond
Reebok - 3 ........ Port, Adelaide, Gold Coast
Adidas - 2 ......... Essendon, Collingwood
Puma - 2 ........... Hawthorn, West Coast
New Balance - 1 .. Melbourne
Nike - 1 ............. Carlton
X-Blades - 1 ....... North Melbourne
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Sorry smokey that's my fault. That Essendon guernsey with the straight sash will be their normal strip for 2011. I just didn't want to start a new thread about it ;).
You are forgiven OE....................................................................................this time. ;D
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Sorry smokey that's my fault. That Essendon guernsey with the straight sash will be their normal strip for 2011. I just didn't want to start a new thread about it ;).
You are forgiven OE....................................................................................this time. ;D
;D
Lucky I didn't post the 2011 Pies' guernsey design then lol but we've all had enough of Collingwood the past couple of weeks :chuck
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KooGa? What happened to Reebox?
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KooGa? What happened to Reebox?
Gone
Actually it is interesting - they (Reebok) seemed to trimmed back their AFL involvement in a major way gonbe from 6 in 2010 to just 3
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Yellow with black stripes simalre to the NAB Kit :thumbsup
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Official KooGa site: http://www.kooga.com.au/
Bulldogs KooGa gear for comparison: http://westernbulldogs.com.au/portals/50/shop.html
Our guernsey probably won't look any different to the Reebok one apart from KooGa instead of Reebok on base of the "V" of the jumper.
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Heard that Koo ga quality is sh1te, although many of the NRL sides use them.
I guess the proof will be in the pudding when the merchandise is released.
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Heard that Koo ga quality is sh1te, although many of the NRL sides use them.
I guess the proof will be in the pudding when the merchandise is released.
Yeah I've heard the same thing about the quality too Tucker.. just check out the woeful stuff Melb Storm had this year.
KooGa have actually just given the flick to one of their NRL teams; who were also the first Club to go with KooGa in the Newcastle Knights. For memory that may only leave Melb Storm in the NRL
But KooGa do supply the Aust Wallabies
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Official KooGa site: http://www.kooga.com.au/
Bulldogs KooGa gear for comparison: http://westernbulldogs.com.au/portals/50/shop.html
Our guernsey probably won't look any different to the Reebok one apart from KooGa instead of Reebok on base of the "V" of the jumper.
The Bulldogs range looks pretty good IMO.
Looking forward to seeing what Kooga can do.
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Little boy blue come blow your horn :lol
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/11/22/1225958/841416-marc-murphy.jpg)
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Little boy blue come blow your horn :lol
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/11/22/1225958/841416-marc-murphy.jpg)
i dont mind that colour might be a bit hard when they play North bulldogs but shouldnt be difficult
The colour is very Greek football style / europeian
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Little boy blue come blow your horn :lol
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/11/22/1225958/841416-marc-murphy.jpg)
That is exactly the colour scheme that GWS should have worn.
I hate Carlton but it is a good jersey.
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That is exactly the colour scheme that GWS should have worn.
Yep. If they wanted quick take-up in their parochial environment then a variation of this colour scheme was a no-brainer. Can't believe they chose the muck they did.
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That is exactly the colour scheme that GWS should have worn.
Yep. If they wanted quick take-up in their parochial environment then a variation of this colour scheme was a no-brainer. Can't believe they chose the muck they did.
The sydney FC is light blue .. maby thats why ???
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That is exactly the colour scheme that GWS should have worn.
Yep. If they wanted quick take-up in their parochial environment then a variation of this colour scheme was a no-brainer. Can't believe they chose the muck they did.
The sydney FC is light blue .. maby thats why ???
Exactly my point TTID. They leveraged off the 'NSW Blues'. Swans are red and white - blue tones was a perfect fit for NSW #2 for so many reasons. I think they missed the boat but at the end of the day, I don't give a stuff as long as we own them.
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Western Sydney is heavy old Western Suburbs Magpies (Black and White) and Balmain Tigers (Orange and Black).
West Tigers is the merged NRL club that wear the Black White and Orange colours.
I suppose the Charcoal, Orange and White colour scheme is to attract those rugby supporters and give a consistent colour scheme
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That is exactly the colour scheme that GWS should have worn.
Yep. If they wanted quick take-up in their parochial environment then a variation of this colour scheme was a no-brainer. Can't believe they chose the muck they did.
The sydney FC is light blue .. maby thats why ???
Exactly my point TTID. They leveraged off the 'NSW Blues'. Swans are red and white - blue tones was a perfect fit for NSW #2 for so many reasons. I think they missed the boat but at the end of the day, I don't give a stuff as long as we own them.
But no-one goes to Sydney FC games. They are a fail. A city of 4 million with one soccer team draped in the state colours and they can't get crowds. Then there's the 'Tahs, they go better but not by much.
GWS are missing nothing. They;ve gone to the tribal roots of a suburban community (a effing large one) and they'll build a club anchored to something, not a disconnected franchise. When they take on their cross town rivals from the east they'll be doing it in colours that represent the west - unfortunately those colours are a bit on the shizzle ;D
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That is exactly the colour scheme that GWS should have worn.
Agree.
Hate the C logo though. ;)
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Hate the C logo though. ;)
I'm surprised the AFL allow that logo at all. Not a good look when you read it. C-word F-word C-word. Suits the supporters though. :rollin
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Dont forget the sharks are light blue ....
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The Pies new "alternative" strip :chuck
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2010/11/27/1225961/784519-magpies-clash-jumper.jpg)
THE AFL has approved a new Collingwood clash jumper which will allow North Melbourne to wear its home strip in next year's Round 2 encounter.
When worn with black shorts and black socks, the Pies believe it will give enough contrast to North Melbourne's blue and white stripes.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/back-in-black-for-the-magpies/story-e6frf9jf-1225961784041
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If the scum are the away side they should have white shorts.
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Every so often this topic about clash jumpers pops up again as it did this morning on the radio (SEN). Don't be surprised if Andy D and AA take this issue up as their next hobby horse after last night's game between Essendon and Melbourne :-\.
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And right on cue.....
Clash jumper: your say
By Adam McNicol
Fri 25 Feb, 2011
THE AFL is appealing to all footy followers have their say on the issue of clash jumpers.
A renewed debate has begun after Essendon and Melbourne wore similar colours in their NAB Cup qualifying final on Thursday night at Etihad Stadium.
... Anderson said opinion remains divided.
"I've heard a number of people say they thought it was fine and other people say they thought it was no good," he said.
"Both clubs indicate they doubt there's an issue there. The clubs both say that from a players' point of view there is no problem.
"The umpires say they had no problem, but we want to find out from our fans whether they believe there is an issue.
"I'd like to pose the question to all supporters: Watching last night's game, did you have a problem with Melbourne being in their home strip with white shorts and Essendon in their home strip with black shorts?"
Anderson is encouraging people to have their say on afl.com.au.
"Here's a great opportunity for fans to tell us what they think," he said.
"Do you prefer to see the clubs in their home guernseys, or, when they've both got dark guernseys like that, do fans prefer one of them the wears a clash strip?
"We'd really like to know what our fans think."
HAVE YOUR SAY ON THE CLASH JUMPERS BY COMMENTING BELOW
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/108402/default.aspx
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Unless Collingwood get to have a genuine away guernsey not one with more white on black stripes as opposed to the more black with white stripes then this discussion is pointless fruitless meaningless hapless spineless.
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:yep
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Clash? What clash?
No two club jumpers have ever been the same in the history of the VFL/AFL.
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Fully agree MM. Apart from the extra merchandising opportunity for the clubs, there is no good reason they can put up for me to believe a clash guernsey is needed. Played footy all my life in a number of different leagues and its was never ever an issue for me, even on the muddiest of days/grounds. And I'm colour blind! Leave the damn things alone and give us yet another degree of separation from the other codes we compete for support against.
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Our NAB Cup jumper is stuffing horrible
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Unless Collingwood get to have a genuine away guernsey not one with more white on black stripes as opposed to the more black with white stripes then this discussion is pointless fruitless meaningless hapless spineless.
In a nutshell :thumbsup
Thanks Tucker :cheers
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There's no harm in making sure the two teams playing a game of footy are easily distinguishable, which is why i'm for the idea of "clash jumpers", and even "away jumpers". I'm well aware of the argument is that the jumper represents the history, culture and everything else about the club, so there's no reason to send the team out to play in something else that doesn't carry any history, but it's certainly not as though teams are doing away with the home jumper! A "clash jumper" system, if designed properly which it's not at the moment, would remove the problem of teams wearing similar jumpers, without compromising the integrity of a club's home jumper.
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Every other sport in the world seems to do just fine with away jumpers
Not sure why its such a big deal
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Every other sport in the world seems to do just fine with away jumpers
Not sure why its such a big deal
exactly.
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As mentioned on BF, the online sporting merchandise store "Goodscore" has us wearing the same alternative strip this year...
(http://www.goodscore.com.au/images/pics/aflclothing/tigers11/9.jpg)
http://www.goodscore.com.au/richmond-tigers-c-643_644_658.html?osCsid=a9ddc1ddf148d2effdf4f3416851c97c (http://www.goodscore.com.au/richmond-tigers-c-643_644_658.html?osCsid=a9ddc1ddf148d2effdf4f3416851c97c)
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Hawthorn will have a new alternative jumper for 2012...
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/article_images_hawks/110829_hodge246ZZZ.jpg)
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lol i hope we dont turn up in one of these poo white guernseys ever!
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If you squint hard enough, you can make out Don Scotts merkin
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The Doggies are going back to the future with the 2012 guernsey:
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/10/07/1226161/574038-matthew-boyd.jpg)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hoops-return-as-dogs-ditch-puppy/story-e6frf9jf-1226161574967
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The Doggies are going back to the future with the 2012 guernsey:
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/10/07/1226161/574038-matthew-boyd.jpg)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hoops-return-as-dogs-ditch-puppy/story-e6frf9jf-1226161574967
So they should, love it. Just like we did bringing back the full stripe.
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Cool. Love the traditional look of that. Very retro.
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Cool. Love the traditional look of that. Very retro.
Geez, you sound like my mother, MM!
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The Doggies are going back to the future with the 2012 guernsey:
Now if they'd just go back to calling themselves Footscray ;D
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Looks awesome.
Ps -when do we get our retro logo back?
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Geez, you sound like my mother, MM!
She must be a very wise woman. ;D
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No away strip, the scum refuse, why should we comply. I was out the other day and noticed some scarves from other clubs and noticed that Hawthorns 'brown' is getting awfully dark and Westcoasts blue is too. Its not brown black, or blue black you pricks, stick to your colours and stop trying to be Richmond. They all want to be like us! Collingwood stole into our home ground, they moved into the lexus centre, they pinched our players, coaches, next they will be using cream or off white in their jumper and we will be hearing 'oh we're from Coolling woood' It has to stuffing stop! So no to an away strip or those bastards will be insisting we wear their colours and pinching ours! Im Owl and thats my story and Im sticking to it.
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Abvout time Footscray :clapping
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Looks ok but that mission logo just spoils it..
What a poo sponsor .
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i think the mission logo looks alright muchacho
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As a person with hispanic ancestry, I am insulted. :police:
And for the record, Jose Romero is GOD
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As a person with hispanic ancestry, I am insulted. :police:
And for the record, Jose Romero is GOD
He cant be god hes not Greek Orthodox ;D
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Did we dip Ben Nason's hair and trade him to the Dogs?
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The new grey alternative strip Essendon will be wearing against us in round 22 ...
(http://i.imgur.com/PsJ24.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/140087/default.aspx
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Soesnt look too bad, have seen plenty worse.
Hopefully we embarass them we need to pay back the verucas for last time
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Wtf is that crap.
What a joke of a jumper.
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Heritage? Wonder when they ever played in a jumper like that?
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Heritage? Wonder when they ever played in a jumper like that?
I think it's just the name they've given it smokey
AFL told them the had to come up with a new alternative jumper and they've gone down this path by taking it a little further and I suppose giving it a point of difference.
I reckon compared to some of the others you see it looks very good.
I also like the idea of the names of all the premiership players being printed in the grey area. Nice touch and a very good marketing idea - they will sell a truck load ;D
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Looks sensational
Feels a bit dirty saying it, but it does
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Great so I'm not alone if thinking it doesn't look bad. Is a good idea but what does make it look funny is that kia logo.
At the end of the day its a marketing ploy to generate sales let's so let's smash em in rd 22 and make em wanna forget they ever went out in theose jumpers!
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I think it looks good. Wouldn't mind our own take on it.
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I think it looks good. Wouldn't mind our own take on it.
This should be our clash:
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x420/Gattkid0100/RichmondClashJumper4.jpg)
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I think it looks good. Wouldn't mind our own take on it.
This should be our clash:
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x420/Gattkid0100/RichmondClashJumper4.jpg)
I agree, it should be. I voted for this option 4-5 years ago when they had the members voting for the 'clash' strip in which our current design won.
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Did that design have yellow shorts and socks too?
What colour was the collar?
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I actually found a link to the original article and a small picture showing the options we had:
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL_Archive/article/280648aw.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/28398/default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/28398/default.aspx)
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This was the original article:
Help decide new Tiger guernsey
1:03:01 PM Thu 13 July, 2006
richmondfc.com.au
Richmond members and supporters have the opportunity to vote on-line for a new Tiger clash strip.
There are two options, which have been designed at the request of the AFL to avoid a clash when the Tigers meet Essendon.
The Club considered some more radical designs, but in the end opted to preserve Richmond’s heritage with respect to the colors and sash.
Design 1 is very similar to the traditional Tiger guernsey design, but there’s a lot more yellow incorporated. There are yellow side panels, a yellow collar, yellow around the sleeves, as well as a wider yellow sash.
Design 2 is a reverse of the normal jumper, with a black sash on a yellow background. It’s reminiscent of the old Western Australian State guernsey.
I reckon the afl will make us change it soon, it doesn't really solve the clash issues it should.
I reckon we wil wear the above strip in the not too distant future! It would solve every single clash so easily.
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Quoted me before I could get the edit done :rollin
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I actually found a link to the original article and a small picture showing the options we had:
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL_Archive/article/280648aw.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/28398/default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/28398/default.aspx)
Why didn't they say whether the yellow jumper would be worn with yellow shorts and socks?
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I actually found a link to the original article and a small picture showing the options we had:
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL_Archive/article/280648aw.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/28398/default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/28398/default.aspx)
Why didn't they say whether the yellow jumper would be worn with yellow shorts and socks?
Probably because our club was being run by a bunch of morons back then :whistle
If this was being done today I would imagine Martin and Cotchin wearing the full kit showing the different options we have and a vote based off that.
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I actually found a link to the original article and a small picture showing the options we had:
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL_Archive/article/280648aw.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/28398/default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/28398/default.aspx)
Why didn't they say whether the yellow jumper would be worn with yellow shorts and socks?
Probably because our club was being run by a bunch of morons back then :whistle
If this was being done today I would imagine Martin and Cotchin wearing the full kit showing the different options we have and a vote based off that.
Lol :gotigers
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I reckon the afl will make us change it soon, it doesn't really solve the clash issues it should.
I reckon we wil wear the above strip in the not too distant future! It would solve every single clash so easily.
Don't think the AFL will to be honest
Bombers had to change theirs now because it didn't meet the requirements
They haven't told us to come up with something else so we don't have to change ;D
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I reckon the afl will make us change it soon, it doesn't really solve the clash issues it should.
I reckon we wil wear the above strip in the not too distant future! It would solve every single clash so easily.
Don't think the AFL will to be honest
Bombers had to change theirs now because it didn't meet the requirements
They haven't told us to come up with something else so we don't have to change ;D
Not a fan at all of the 'WA' style jumper are you WP? :lol
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I reckon the afl will make us change it soon, it doesn't really solve the clash issues it should.
I reckon we wil wear the above strip in the not too distant future! It would solve every single clash so easily.
Don't think the AFL will to be honest
Bombers had to change theirs now because it didn't meet the requirements
They haven't told us to come up with something else so we don't have to change ;D
Not a fan at all of the 'WA' style jumper are you WP? :lol
;D ;D
Not fussed one way or another these days to be honest
But AFL have no probs with our current one and like it or not the current one was chosen by the members & supporters so I cannot see it being changed
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The more I look at that Bummers guernsey the more I don't mind it. It's 'fresh' and I hope it's a trend setter for the future. I really don't like that white strip the Dawks wear, and Freo, Bumdogs and Pooer all look like ballerinas in their white clash strip. There will be moaning to begin but everyone will get over it. The sash design for example, I wouldn't mind if the Bums or even we eventually evolve into some more 'modern' (if you get what I mean) like that but on top of black for the regular home and away strip.
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ESS should have a clash guernsey same as ours
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(http://www.adorablebabyclothing.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/PLL5006PH.jpg)
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I reckon the afl will make us change it soon, it doesn't really solve the clash issues it should.
I reckon we wil wear the above strip in the not too distant future! It would solve every single clash so easily.
Don't think the AFL will to be honest
Bombers had to change theirs now because it didn't meet the requirements
They haven't told us to come up with something else so we don't have to change ;D
Yep. Essendon was told red was a 'dark' colour so reversing their strip or adding more red was no longer an option. The AFL also told the Bombers if they didn't come up with something like this one then they'd be fine $5000 per player who didn't wear it on the weekend. In other words, they would've copped a $110,000 fine.
As for us yellow would be classed as a 'light' colour so adding more yellow to our jumper as we have done is okay with the AFL. It's the same excuse Collingwood have to use their old guernsey as their 'alternative' strip with white being a light colour. It's a joke really given Freo wore white on the weekend against the Pies black with white stripes jumper.
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(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclash_mowse.jpg)
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(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclash_mowse.jpg)
Not a fan, don't like white in our jumper.
Maybe as opposed to the white, fill the rest with yellow as well?
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:chuck
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Slightly changed your design Mrakov, apologies over the art work, just did this one quickly through paint, but you get the idea. :thumbsup
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2s84fpu.png)
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much better
what happened to jack? :lol
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much better
what happened to jack? :lol
We (the mods) thought it was best to remove it.
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settle pal, no need to downgrade me bro
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Slightly changed your design Mrakov, apologies over the art work, just did this one quickly through paint, but you get the idea. :thumbsup
Not my design lol. I saw it on BigFooty and posted it.
There's also this one:
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclashrev_mowse.jpg)
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Yep, don't mind that at all, straight reversal of our home. :thumbsup
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Yep, don't mind that at all, straight reversal of our home. :thumbsup
Would buy in a heartbeat
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happy with the yellow ones if we never have to wear white shorts again
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Yep, don't mind that at all, straight reversal of our home. :thumbsup
Would buy in a heartbeat
Agree. That looks great.
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:thumbsup
Love it
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Yep, don't mind that at all, straight reversal of our home. :thumbsup
Sraight reversal is fine :thumbsup no brainer to make that our clash jumper
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Yep, don't mind that at all, straight reversal of our home. :thumbsup
It's not actually a straight reversal, it has a black collar and sleeves. If it were a straight reversal they would be yellow like this:
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x420/Gattkid0100/RichmondClashJumper4.jpg)
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Slightly changed your design Mrakov, apologies over the art work, just did this one quickly through paint, but you get the idea. :thumbsup
Not my design lol. I saw it on BigFooty and posted it.
There's also this one:
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclashrev_mowse.jpg)
Is this for the OH&S officer on game day?
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Slightly changed your design Mrakov, apologies over the art work, just did this one quickly through paint, but you get the idea. :thumbsup
Not my design lol. I saw it on BigFooty and posted it.
There's also this one:
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclashrev_mowse.jpg)
Is this for the OH&S officer on game day?
Maybe it's for the sub:D
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Thought it looked familiar ...Its the old WA state of origin jumper.
We can pretend to be Maurice Riolis in it
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Its the old WA state of origin jumper.
They had a fatter sash and It was straight.
They also had no sash on the back.
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Mrakov,
Could you please post the Big Footy Link for the jumper pics
As you've sourced them directly from someone/somewhere we need the appropriate link
thanks
:thumbsup
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Big Footy Link for the latest suggestion for clash jumpers:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jumpers-in-the-firing-line-richmond-clash-jumper.967426/
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it is fairdinkum pox...imo, friggen canary yellow outfit...look like a chinese circus performance troop ffs
By the way have you noticed the Hawx clash top, I thought they had stolen our colours and did a double take, I am sure that mission brown gets darker every year, it may as well be black.
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(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclash_mowse.jpg)
Great NAB Cup Jumper this one. Would be fantastic for memorabilia possibilities with player autographs easy to read etc. Could also be used in practice preseason games.
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Slightly changed your design Mrakov, apologies over the art work, just did this one quickly through paint, but you get the idea. :thumbsup
Not my design lol. I saw it on BigFooty and posted it.
There's also this one:
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclashrev_mowse.jpg)
This should always have been the clash strip. Its a very nice jumper IMHO.
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IMHO I think the time has come to officially adopt a suite of different jumpers. Our traditional jumper for home games, the reverse WA type jumper for away games and even the White one for preseason. At the moment most of the clubs are looking at doing 50-50 jobs with everyone not being sure whats happening from one season to the next. To be honest Im over it. I think we should be the first club to officially adopt the 3 jumper policy. And yes I know I will be in a massive minority but its time for everyone to get more professional at least marketing wise, we dont need any security blankets, We can make this of change and it would make absolutely no difference to who or what we are as a club.
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IMHO I think the time has come to officially adopt a suite of different jumpers. Our traditional jumper for home games, the reverse WA type jumper for away games and even the White one for preseason. At the moment most of the clubs are looking at doing 50-50 jobs with everyone not being sure whats happening from one season to the next. To be honest Im over it. I think we should be the first club to officially adopt the 3 jumper policy. And yes I know I will be in a massive minority but its time for everyone to get more professional at least marketing wise, we dont need any security blankets, We can make this of change and it would make absolutely no difference to who or what we are as a club.
Using the yellow jumper for away is a bit much IMO.
I reckon do this:
Home: Traditional jumper with black shorts and traditional 3 hoop socks
Away: Traditional jumper with white or yellow shorts and traditional socks
Clash: reversal of our home with yellow shorts and yellow socks with 3 black hoops
Nab: New design every year
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IMHO I think the time has come to officially adopt a suite of different jumpers. Our traditional jumper for home games, the reverse WA type jumper for away games and even the White one for preseason. At the moment most of the clubs are looking at doing 50-50 jobs with everyone not being sure whats happening from one season to the next. To be honest Im over it. I think we should be the first club to officially adopt the 3 jumper policy. And yes I know I will be in a massive minority but its time for everyone to get more professional at least marketing wise, we dont need any security blankets, We can make this of change and it would make absolutely no difference to who or what we are as a club.
Using the yellow jumper for away is a bit much IMO.
I reckon do this:
Home: Traditional jumper with black shorts and traditional 3 hoop socks
Away: Traditional jumper with white or yellow shorts and traditional socks
Clash: reversal of our home with yellow shorts and yellow socks with 3 black hoops
Nab: New design every year
I'm actually with flagman on this one. Playing a 50/50 split in the jumpers makes sense, and it looks good.
I agree with most of what you have put down Mrakov, with the exception of white shorts and the Away strip. Never want to see us in the white shorts, should be yellow shorts in a clash instance. I propose:
Home: Traditional jumper with black shorts and traditional 3 hoop socks
Away: Proposed reversal of traditional jumper with black trim around collar, yellow/black shorts and traditional socks
Clash: Would be the away option with using either yellow or the black shorts to clash less with who we are playing (yellow when we play the bummers as the black is the clashing colour)
Nab I don't care, they can do whatever they want. I only take the Home and Away season seriously.
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IMHO I think the time has come to officially adopt a suite of different jumpers. Our traditional jumper for home games, the reverse WA type jumper for away games and even the White one for preseason. At the moment most of the clubs are looking at doing 50-50 jobs with everyone not being sure whats happening from one season to the next. To be honest Im over it. I think we should be the first club to officially adopt the 3 jumper policy. And yes I know I will be in a massive minority but its time for everyone to get more professional at least marketing wise, we dont need any security blankets, We can make this of change and it would make absolutely no difference to who or what we are as a club.
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Using the yellow jumper for away is a bit much IMO.
I reckon do this:
Home: Traditional jumper with black shorts and traditional 3 hoop socks
Away: Traditional jumper with white or yellow shorts and traditional socks
Clash: reversal of our home with yellow shorts and yellow socks with 3 black hoops
Nab: New design every year
I'm actually with flagman on this one. Playing a 50/50 split in the jumpers makes sense, and it looks good.
I agree with most of what you have put down Mrakov, with the exception of white shorts and the Away strip. Never want to see us in the white shorts, should be yellow shorts in a clash instance. I propose:
Home: Traditional jumper with black shorts and traditional 3 hoop socks
Away: Proposed reversal of traditional jumper with black trim around collar, yellow/black shorts and traditional socks
Clash: Would be the away option with using either yellow or the black shorts to clash less with who we are playing (yellow when we play the bummers as the black is the clashing colour)
Nab I don't care, they can do whatever they want. I only take the Home and Away season seriously.
IMO the club will only muck around with the clash.
They won't touch the traditional jumper for home or away
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Traditional Jumper+Black Shorts and hooped socks for Home games
Reverse WA Type Jumper+ Black Shorts and hooped socks for Away Games
White Jumper (One designed Above) with Black Shorts and hooped socks for NAB Cup & Practice Games.
Its time to do it officially IMHO. 3 Jumpers standardised throughout the course of the year. Richmond in its history has made changes ie. Thickness of the sash, various Aboriginal Guernseys, ones with a Tigers head on the side. Lets just get 3 jumpers and know which one is there and for what purpose.
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By the way have you noticed the Hawx clash top, I thought they had stolen our colours and did a double take, I am sure that mission brown gets darker every year, it may as well be black.
Damn straight. Excellent post.
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Traditional Jumper+Black Shorts and hooped socks for Home games
Reverse WA Type Jumper+ Black Shorts and hooped socks for Away Games
White Jumper (One designed Above) with Black Shorts and hooped socks for NAB Cup & Practice Games.
Its time to do it officially IMHO. 3 Jumpers standardised throughout the course of the year. Richmond in its history has made changes ie. Thickness of the sash, various Aboriginal Guernseys, ones with a Tigers head on the side. Lets just get 3 jumpers and know which one is there and for what purpose.
agree
and mrakov and JVT have been reported for suggesting yellow shorts
enjoy your ban :cheers
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By the way have you noticed the Hawx clash top, I thought they had stolen our colours and did a double take, I am sure that mission brown gets darker every year, it may as well be black.
Damn straight. Excellent post.
Those wankers have always wanted to be us.
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Traditional Jumper+Black Shorts and hooped socks for Home games
Reverse WA Type Jumper+ Black Shorts and hooped socks for Away Games
White Jumper (One designed Above) with Black Shorts and hooped socks for NAB Cup & Practice Games.
Its time to do it officially IMHO. 3 Jumpers standardised throughout the course of the year. Richmond in its history has made changes ie. Thickness of the sash, various Aboriginal Guernseys, ones with a Tigers head on the side. Lets just get 3 jumpers and know which one is there and for what purpose.
agree
and mrakov and JVT have been reported for suggesting yellow shorts
enjoy your ban :cheers
What's wrong with yellow shorts? Dortmund wear them lulz
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By the way have you noticed the Hawx clash top, I thought they had stolen our colours and did a double take, I am sure that mission brown gets darker every year, it may as well be black.
Damn straight. Excellent post.
Those wankers have always wanted to be us.
Our club should always keep the bastards honest and make sure the colour's closer to poo brown than black.
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Traditional Jumper+Black Shorts and hooped socks for Home games
Reverse WA Type Jumper+ Black Shorts and hooped socks for Away Games
White Jumper (One designed Above) with Black Shorts and hooped socks for NAB Cup & Practice Games.
Its time to do it officially IMHO. 3 Jumpers standardised throughout the course of the year. Richmond in its history has made changes ie. Thickness of the sash, various Aboriginal Guernseys, ones with a Tigers head on the side. Lets just get 3 jumpers and know which one is there and for what purpose.
agree
and mrakov and JVT have been reported for suggesting yellow shorts
enjoy your ban :cheers
Yellow shorts is the lesser evil when compared to white. I don't like seeing any white in our matchday wear. :shh :thumbsup
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it's too late for excuses JVT, you've been reported :police:
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(http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/080924/hawks2390_14dj968.jpg?x=390&q=80&n=1&sig=XgWdaVC9E7niI8dGC6l_Sg--)
and today's
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/04/12/1225852/945621-lance-franklin.jpg)
Time to take the evidence and lodge an official complaint.
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(http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/080924/hawks2390_14dj968.jpg?x=390&q=80&n=1&sig=XgWdaVC9E7niI8dGC6l_Sg--)
and today's
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/04/12/1225852/945621-lance-franklin.jpg)
Time to take the evidence and lodge an official complaint.
lol the 2nd one isnt even brown.
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And the gold has become yellow . . . :banghead :police:
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dont they also have hooped socks now? this is a stuffing joke :banghead
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We should get RFC_Official to make an official complaint to the AFL.
Unacceptable >:(
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Traditional Jumper+Black Shorts and hooped socks for Home games
Reverse WA Type Jumper+ Black Shorts and hooped socks for Away Games
White Jumper (One designed Above) with Black Shorts and hooped socks for NAB Cup & Practice Games.
Its time to do it officially IMHO. 3 Jumpers standardised throughout the course of the year. Richmond in its history has made changes ie. Thickness of the sash, various Aboriginal Guernseys, ones with a Tigers head on the side. Lets just get 3 jumpers and know which one is there and for what purpose.
agree
and mrakov and JVT have been reported for suggesting yellow shorts
enjoy your ban :cheers
Yellow shorts is the lesser evil when compared to white. I don't like seeing any white in our matchday wear. :shh :thumbsup
Yellow shorts are diabolical. As for White - Tigers have white on their faces so white is acceptable color IMHO. Common peoples jumper aboard the 3 jumper policy!
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(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/2011/070611_stk_jumper.jpg)
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(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/2011/070611_stk_jumper.jpg)
Is that you Richmond?
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Gehrig :cheers
I remember a lovely night at the Grand Hotel in Glenelg, a few beers and a ladies leg...
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Who's the tall dude second from the right?? Is that Barry Brooks?
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We should put our new logo on our jumper for next year like the 2008 centenary jumper:
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/267683c4fb5f227fbdadfcf04db9152b.jpg)
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How about a dead straight sash for next year:p
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/dd68fcf34139e6743d5b516fd45fbfd5.jpg)
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Don't like the straight sash at all.
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Don't like the straight sash at all.
Me neither.
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(http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/080924/hawks2390_14dj968.jpg?x=390&q=80&n=1&sig=XgWdaVC9E7niI8dGC6l_Sg--)
and today's
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/04/12/1225852/945621-lance-franklin.jpg)
Time to take the evidence and lodge an official complaint.
lol the 2nd one isnt even brown.
Slowly but surely becoming the 'Tasmanian Tigers'
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This Hawthorn thing actually peees me off.
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It's not so bad. Imitation is a form of flattery, right?
At least we get to see another Rioli in the Y&B again :rollin
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(http://www.goldcoast.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2008/06/30/06941876.jpg)
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(http://www.goldcoast.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2008/06/30/06941876.jpg)
All gone except Tucky and Axel
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Copying pricks
(http://www.insidesport.com.au/is/features/images/0905-Leigh-Mathews/Leigh-Matthews-1.jpg)
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/07/15/1226426/680412-max-bailey.jpg)
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
yeah it will have the blood of our competitors on it :shh
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
yeah it will have the blood of our competitors on it :shh
Isn't that Essendumbs jumper?
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
Someone at KooGa has told him that we will have a new clash but didn't give him details.
Hoping it's the WA guernsey.
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Speaking of Hawthorn in this thread, here's their 2013 new adidas designs after switching from puma:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4GobYUCMAA8Zgg.jpg)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4GpDk-CIAAaIzP.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4GovAlCMAAAhOf.jpg)
http://twicsy.com/i/PPj6tc
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
Someone at KooGa has told him that we will have a new clash but didn't give him details.
Hoping it's the WA guernsey.
From BF:
"Stig, when is the 2013 KooGa merchandise going on sale?
and will the 2013 nab cup and regular season jumpers be the same or is there an update on the collars/designs etc?"
RFCO's reply:
"There will be a change to the gear, we launch Nov 1 with all the new gear.
Jumpers will stay the same however. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/questions-suggestions-for-rfc_official-part-2.968928/page-9#post-25952998
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
Someone at KooGa has told him that we will have a new clash but didn't give him details.
Hoping it's the WA guernsey.
From BF:
"Stig, when is the 2013 KooGa merchandise going on sale?
and will the 2013 nab cup and regular season jumpers be the same or is there an update on the collars/designs etc?"
RFCO's reply:
"There will be a change to the gear, we launch Nov 1 with all the new gear.
Jumpers will stay the same however. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/questions-suggestions-for-rfc_official-part-2.968928/page-9#post-25952998
Yes, but the other guy is claiming there will be a new clash
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
Someone at KooGa has told him that we will have a new clash but didn't give him details.
Hoping it's the WA guernsey.
From BF:
"Stig, when is the 2013 KooGa merchandise going on sale?
and will the 2013 nab cup and regular season jumpers be the same or is there an update on the collars/designs etc?"
RFCO's reply:
"There will be a change to the gear, we launch Nov 1 with all the new gear.
Jumpers will stay the same however. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/questions-suggestions-for-rfc_official-part-2.968928/page-9#post-25952998
Yes, but the other guy is claiming there will be a new clash
Cheers Mrakov. I was just posting what RFCO had said.
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
Someone at KooGa has told him that we will have a new clash but didn't give him details.
Hoping it's the WA guernsey.
From BF:
"Stig, when is the 2013 KooGa merchandise going on sale?
and will the 2013 nab cup and regular season jumpers be the same or is there an update on the collars/designs etc?"
RFCO's reply:
"There will be a change to the gear, we launch Nov 1 with all the new gear.
Jumpers will stay the same however. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/questions-suggestions-for-rfc_official-part-2.968928/page-9#post-25952998
Yes, but the other guy is claiming there will be a new clash
The other guy is wrong.
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So Stig when will the current KooGa merch be put on sale by the store?
The stuff online is still at full price except for the grey zip up hoodie ;D
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Speaking of Hawthorn in this thread, here's their 2013 new adidas designs after switching from puma:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4GobYUCMAA8Zgg.jpg)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4GpDk-CIAAaIzP.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4GovAlCMAAAhOf.jpg)
http://twicsy.com/i/PPj6tc
Another step towards black (midnight brown) and yellow. Check out the midnight brown back on the second ones from the top, like the turd birds they are >:(
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Hmm, too dark for my liking, what happened to the tan shade of brown we know and love :lol
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
Someone at KooGa has told him that we will have a new clash but didn't give him details.
Hoping it's the WA guernsey.
From BF:
"Stig, when is the 2013 KooGa merchandise going on sale?
and will the 2013 nab cup and regular season jumpers be the same or is there an update on the collars/designs etc?"
RFCO's reply:
"There will be a change to the gear, we launch Nov 1 with all the new gear.
Jumpers will stay the same however. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/questions-suggestions-for-rfc_official-part-2.968928/page-9#post-25952998
Yes, but the other guy is claiming there will be a new clash
The other guy is wrong.
Thanks. The girls in merchandise told me there will be an 'updated' nab jumper though.
What do they mean by updated? Can you give us any goss on what it might look like?
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Hmm, too dark for my liking, what happened to the tan shade of brown we know and love :lol
Yep a lot closer to black than brown these days.
What happened to this?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Hawthorn_Hawks_Jumper.svg/225px-Hawthorn_Hawks_Jumper.svg.png)
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Hmm, too dark for my liking, what happened to the tan shade of brown we know and love :lol
Yep a lot closer to black than brown these days.
What happened to this?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Hawthorn_Hawks_Jumper.svg/225px-Hawthorn_Hawks_Jumper.svg.png)
They realised its poo lol
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Hmm, too dark for my liking, what happened to the tan shade of brown we know and love :lol
Yep a lot closer to black than brown these days.
What happened to this?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Hawthorn_Hawks_Jumper.svg/225px-Hawthorn_Hawks_Jumper.svg.png)
They realised its poo lol
Yeah they did but nothing funny about it. They've clearly wanted to steer clear of the poo & wee jokes.
That's why they've move it a lot closer to the mighty Yellow & Black.
Keep your own pooty colours Hawthorn. >:(
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Hmm, too dark for my liking, what happened to the tan shade of brown we know and love :lol
Yep a lot closer to black than brown these days.
What happened to this?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Hawthorn_Hawks_Jumper.svg/225px-Hawthorn_Hawks_Jumper.svg.png)
They realised its poo lol
Yeah they did but nothing funny about it. They've clearly wanted to steer clear of the poo & wee jokes.
That's why they've move it a lot closer to the mighty Yellow & Black.
Keep your own pooty colours Hawthorn. >:(
There was a bf bay13 thread started by a Richmond poster about them stealing our colours a while back.
We actually wore stripes before them too. :D
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
Someone at KooGa has told him that we will have a new clash but didn't give him details.
Hoping it's the WA guernsey.
From BF:
"Stig, when is the 2013 KooGa merchandise going on sale?
and will the 2013 nab cup and regular season jumpers be the same or is there an update on the collars/designs etc?"
RFCO's reply:
"There will be a change to the gear, we launch Nov 1 with all the new gear.
Jumpers will stay the same however. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/questions-suggestions-for-rfc_official-part-2.968928/page-9#post-25952998
Yes, but the other guy is claiming there will be a new clash
The other guy is wrong.
Thanks. The girls in merchandise told me there will be an 'updated' nab jumper though.
What do they mean by updated? Can you give us any goss on what it might look like?
As far as I know, nothing is changing we're with the new NAB cup and clash guernseys for 2 years (which includes 2013)
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
Someone at KooGa has told him that we will have a new clash but didn't give him details.
Hoping it's the WA guernsey.
From BF:
"Stig, when is the 2013 KooGa merchandise going on sale?
and will the 2013 nab cup and regular season jumpers be the same or is there an update on the collars/designs etc?"
RFCO's reply:
"There will be a change to the gear, we launch Nov 1 with all the new gear.
Jumpers will stay the same however. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/questions-suggestions-for-rfc_official-part-2.968928/page-9#post-25952998
Yes, but the other guy is claiming there will be a new clash
The other guy is wrong.
Thanks. The girls in merchandise told me there will be an 'updated' nab jumper though.
What do they mean by updated? Can you give us any goss on what it might look like?
As far as I know, nothing is changing we're with the new NAB cup and clash guernseys for 2 years (which includes 2013)
Would you know more than the girls who answer the phone at merchandise?
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
Someone at KooGa has told him that we will have a new clash but didn't give him details.
Hoping it's the WA guernsey.
From BF:
"Stig, when is the 2013 KooGa merchandise going on sale?
and will the 2013 nab cup and regular season jumpers be the same or is there an update on the collars/designs etc?"
RFCO's reply:
"There will be a change to the gear, we launch Nov 1 with all the new gear.
Jumpers will stay the same however. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/questions-suggestions-for-rfc_official-part-2.968928/page-9#post-25952998
Yes, but the other guy is claiming there will be a new clash
The other guy is wrong.
Thanks. The girls in merchandise told me there will be an 'updated' nab jumper though.
What do they mean by updated? Can you give us any goss on what it might look like?
As far as I know, nothing is changing we're with the new NAB cup and clash guernseys for 2 years (which includes 2013)
Would you know more than the girls who answer the phone at merchandise?
(http://www.memegenerator.es/imagenes/memes/11/1537551.jpg)
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:lol
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Some dude on BF is saying we will have a new clash jumper for 2013.
Can't find it. >:( What's it look like?
Someone at KooGa has told him that we will have a new clash but didn't give him details.
Hoping it's the WA guernsey.
From BF:
"Stig, when is the 2013 KooGa merchandise going on sale?
and will the 2013 nab cup and regular season jumpers be the same or is there an update on the collars/designs etc?"
RFCO's reply:
"There will be a change to the gear, we launch Nov 1 with all the new gear.
Jumpers will stay the same however. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/questions-suggestions-for-rfc_official-part-2.968928/page-9#post-25952998
Yes, but the other guy is claiming there will be a new clash
The other guy is wrong.
Thanks. The girls in merchandise told me there will be an 'updated' nab jumper though.
What do they mean by updated? Can you give us any goss on what it might look like?
As far as I know, nothing is changing we're with the new NAB cup and clash guernseys for 2 years (which includes 2013)
Would you know more than the girls who answer the phone at merchandise?
(http://www.memegenerator.es/imagenes/memes/11/1537551.jpg)
lulz
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The cheats have a new clash for 2013, no more baby blues:
(http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx43/fxd3/e5924efaaf88e103da38545da79162c2.jpg)
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Shame. I enjoyed watching them run around like a pack of fairies.
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Shame. I enjoyed watching them run around like a pack of fairies.
Looks crapier than the baby blue lol
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Warning: the following guernseys may make you feel ill ...
Collingwood's Star Athletic home and clash jumpers for 2013. They are no longer with Adidas.
(http://www.goodscore.com.au/images/pics/aflclothing/magpie13/1.jpg) (http://www.goodscore.com.au/images/pics/aflclothing/magpie13/4.jpg)
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Warning: the following guernseys may make you I'll
Collingwood's Star Athletic home and clash jumpers for 2013. They are no longer with Adidas.
(http://www.goodscore.com.au/images/pics/aflclothing/magpie13/1.jpg) (http://www.goodscore.com.au/images/pics/aflclothing/magpie13/4.jpg)
Reported for posting smut!! :police:
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Star Athletic?? :lol
Stuffing plebs.
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Was that necessary one eyed?
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Was that necessary one eyed?
:lol
Just making everyone grateful we have a yellow sash on black :thumbsup
Also the Pies should be made to always wear their old (ie. now clash) white jumper whenever they play us home or away. Ridiculous that they were allowed by the AFL to change to a mainly black jumper and cause more jumper clashes than any other club ::).
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Was that necessary one eyed?
:lol
Just making everyone grateful we have a yellow sash on black :thumbsup
Also the Pies should be made to always wear their old (ie. now clash) white jumper whenever they play us home or away. Ridiculous that they were allowed by the AFL to change to a mainly black jumper and cause more jumper clashes than any other club ::).
Yep. They sure are stupid. Don't now why they changed their jumper a decade ago. Their stupid supporters didn't even notice the change haha.
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New WhoreThorns Adidas guernsey. Wow how poo does that massive hawk logo on the front look?
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_hawks/adidas_defcon_new_words.JPG)
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New WhoreThorns Adidas guernsey. Wow how poo does that massive hawk logo on the front look?
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_hawks/adidas_defcon_new_words.JPG)
Ummmmm :-\ :-\ :-\ I'll have what your smoking :lol
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New WhoreThorns Adidas guernsey. Wow how poo does that massive hawk logo on the front look?
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_hawks/adidas_defcon_new_words.JPG)
Ummmmm :-\ :-\ :-\ I'll have what your smoking :lol
It's embossed on the center of the guernsey. Old fellas like you can't see it.
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You can see the embossed logo in this pic
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_hawks/121107_gibson_adidas.jpg)
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You can see the embossed logo in this pic
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_hawks/121107_gibson_adidas.jpg)
Looks silly.
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Didn't think it was possible to make that jumper any worse. I was wrong.
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Looks silly.
Distracting. Why bother?
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You can see the embossed logo in this pic
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_hawks/121107_gibson_adidas.jpg)
Looks silly.
I cant see anything except yellow stripes :outtahere
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You can see the embossed logo in this pic
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_hawks/121107_gibson_adidas.jpg)
Looks silly.
I cant see anything except yellow stripes :outtahere
You're all too old now.
Get the spectacles out.
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You've got to look through the jumper. :lol
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You've got to look through the jumper. :lol
And an image of the Eiffel Tower appears ;D
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i got old mate jeff lying under a glass coffee table with felicity breaking one off above him :huh
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Hawthorn away strip to be worn in every away game in 2013 with white shorts.. The brown has got darker again.. This is a freaking rip off:
(http://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/201812_adidas_2013_away_guernsey_front.jpg)
(http://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/201812_adidas_2013_away_guernsey_back.jpg)
(http://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/201812_adidas_2013_away_guernsey_front_zoom.jpg)
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That actually looks good!
Must say, Well Done Hawthorn.
Good for sales!
Would we ever think of reserving the colours for away matches or maybe as a clash jumper?
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Hawthorn away strip to be worn in every away game in 2013 with white shorts.. The brown has got darker again.. This is a freaking rip off:
Certainly getting closer to black every year. Our club should take a stand.
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Whorethorne 2013 clash:
(http://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/201832_ADIDAS_2013_CLASH_GIBSON_1.jpg)
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What's with all the Dawks poo on this thread?
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To be fair the reserve jumper of theirs isn't bad. It will sell too. The white one though which they had this year as well is horrible :chuck.
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New Essendon jumper! The sash sucks !!!!
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/homeguernpears.jpg)
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/homeguernside.jpg)
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Here is the Bombers "Clash" Jumper for 2013.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/4nfa0.jpg)
Apparently the design company misheard the word "clash" and this was the result.
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Here is the Bombers "Clash" Jumper for 2013.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/4nfa0.jpg)
Apparently the design company misheard the word "clash" and this was the result.
Here's the real one, your one looks a bit better.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/heritageguerncad.jpg)
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Here is the Bombers "Clash" Jumper for 2013.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/4nfa0.jpg)
Apparently the design company misheard the word "clash" and this was the result.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Like like a picture of the Bombers season on the front.
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Like like a picture of the Bombers season on the front.
Was thinking the same...
Watch the. Bombers fly up...UP
Watch them crashand burn..BURN
Their hamstrings tear like tissue paper
What a bunch of sooks!! Lmb
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St Kilda's 140th anniversary heritage jumper based on their first ever guernsey from 1873. They'll be wearing it against Carlton next season.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/140-Guernsey.jpg)
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St Kilda's 140th anniversary heritage jumper based on their first ever guernsey from 1873. They'll be wearing it against Carlton next season.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/140-Guernsey.jpg)
I like that, probably not with the writing on the jumper but I like the heritage jumpers.
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what is the writing? every player that has played for them?
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what is the writing? every player that has played for them?
Na , every unsucessful coach !!
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:lol
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St Kilda's 140th anniversary heritage jumper based on their first ever guernsey from 1873. They'll be wearing it against Carlton next season.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/140-Guernsey.jpg)
yuck
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what is the writing? every player that has played for them?
Na , every unsucessful coach !!
:lol They'd need to make the Dean Rioli XXXXXXL to fit them all on.
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what is the writing? every player that has played for them?
Na , every unsucessful coach !!
:lol
Poor Lenny. A great footballer who probably would have a premiership or two by now if he wasn't playing for St 'snatch defeat from the jaws of victory' Kilda. Only that club could end up winning nothing with the list they had from 2004-2009. Once Lenny retires, the Saints spiral towards another wooden spoon in the next few years will be rapid as they have no young guns coming through.
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Adelaide's new away guernsey :-X
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images_adelaide/Sloane_clash_CYCLER.jpg)
http://www.afc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4417/newsid/151761/default.aspx
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What is that
:chuck :chuck :chuck
:huh3 :huh3
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There's a new Cotchin captains guernsey
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What is that
:chuck :chuck :chuck
:huh3 :huh3
I'm with you :huh3 :huh3 :huh3
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What is that
:chuck :chuck :chuck
:huh3 :huh3
I'm with you :huh3 :huh3 :huh3
Looks like something a child finger painted at kinder.
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There's a new Cotchin captains guernsey
I think that's a ridiculous idea given some of the controversy surrounding the change of jumper numbers. Gimmicky money grabbing.
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There's a new Cotchin captains guernsey
I think that's a ridiculous idea given some of the controversy surrounding the change of jumper numbers. Gimmicky money grabbing.
I...... I .....
I want one
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There's a new Cotchin captains guernsey
I think that's a ridiculous idea given some of the controversy surrounding the change of jumper numbers. Gimmicky money grabbing.
Absolutely...
But it's a great way to move excess 2012 stock ;D ;D
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There's a new Cotchin captains guernsey
I think that's a ridiculous idea given some of the controversy surrounding the change of jumper numbers. Gimmicky money grabbing.
Absolutely...
But it's a great way to move excess 2012 stock ;D ;D
They aren't 2012 stock they're a full sublimated jumper
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There's a new Cotchin captains guernsey
I think that's a ridiculous idea given some of the controversy surrounding the change of jumper numbers. Gimmicky money grabbing.
Absolutely...
But it's a great way to move excess 2012 stock ;D ;D
They aren't 2012 stock they're a full sublimated jumper
They can be when all you need to do is add on little bit of printing on the yellow sash ;D
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There's a new Cotchin captains guernsey
I think that's a ridiculous idea given some of the controversy surrounding the change of jumper numbers. Gimmicky money grabbing.
Absolutely...
But it's a great way to move excess 2012 stock ;D ;D
They aren't 2012 stock they're a full sublimated jumper
They can be when all you need to do is add on little bit of printing on the yellow sash ;D
Yeah they're probably the evpostretch guernseys that the couldn't sell. Don't think they'll be heat pressed on though
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Apparently North are officially now going to wear white shorts for home games and blue shorts away.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/NMFC%20-%20Petrie%20-%20Home%20Guernsey%20Front%20-%20500px.jpg) (https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/NMFC%20-%20Petrie%20-%20Clash%20Guernsey%20Front%20-%20500px.jpg)
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There's a new Cotchin captains guernsey
I think that's a ridiculous idea given some of the controversy surrounding the change of jumper numbers. Gimmicky money grabbing.
Absolutely...
But it's a great way to move excess 2012 stock ;D ;D
They aren't 2012 stock they're a full sublimated jumper
They can be when all you need to do is add on little bit of printing on the yellow sash ;D
Yeah they're probably the evpostretch guernseys that the couldn't sell. Don't think they'll be heat pressed on though
Got 9 on the back too, so think they are new boys .....
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There's a new Cotchin captains guernsey
I think that's a ridiculous idea given some of the controversy surrounding the change of jumper numbers. Gimmicky money grabbing.
Absolutely...
But it's a great way to move excess 2012 stock ;D ;D
They aren't 2012 stock they're a full sublimated jumper
They can be when all you need to do is add on little bit of printing on the yellow sash ;D
Yeah they're probably the evpostretch guernseys that the couldn't sell. Don't think they'll be heat pressed on though
Got 9 on the back too, so think they are new boys .....
Number on the back means very little, had them in the store during the year.
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Apparently North are officially now going to wear white shorts for home games and blue shorts away.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/NMFC%20-%20Petrie%20-%20Home%20Guernsey%20Front%20-%20500px.jpg) (https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/NMFC%20-%20Petrie%20-%20Clash%20Guernsey%20Front%20-%20500px.jpg)
So far as clash jumpers go that's a good solution.
Shame yellow shorts look so ghey.
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There's a new Cotchin captains guernsey
I think that's a ridiculous idea given some of the controversy surrounding the change of jumper numbers. Gimmicky money grabbing.
Absolutely...
But it's a great way to move excess 2012 stock ;D ;D
They aren't 2012 stock they're a full sublimated jumper
They can be when all you need to do is add on little bit of printing on the yellow sash ;D
Yeah they're probably the evpostretch guernseys that the couldn't sell. Don't think they'll be heat pressed on though
Got 9 on the back too, so think they are new boys .....
Number on the back means very little, had them in the store during the year.
Those were heat pressed
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Apparently North are officially now going to wear white shorts for home games and blue shorts away.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/NMFC%20-%20Petrie%20-%20Home%20Guernsey%20Front%20-%20500px.jpg) (https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/NMFC%20-%20Petrie%20-%20Clash%20Guernsey%20Front%20-%20500px.jpg)
Morons why don't they wore that orange guernsey they wore against the Pies circa 2000. Clashes with noone. Home shorts are coloured not white. Stupid footy club. Traditions.Andy D and Aa have roo ted this comp.
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You can see the embossed logo in this pic
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_hawks/121107_gibson_adidas.jpg)
Looks silly.
Melbourne have gone with the large embossed logo on their jumper for 2013 as well.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/Guernsey%20ATH%20MFC.jpg)
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You can see the embossed logo in this pic
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_hawks/121107_gibson_adidas.jpg)
Looks silly.
Melbourne have gone with the large embossed logo on their jumper for 2013 as well.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/Guernsey%20ATH%20MFC.jpg)
What a stupid trend. I hope we never do it
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Brian Lake was on the news tonight showing off his new Hawks jumper and it looks like the Hawks are going back to having brown numbers next year rather than the white panel with black numbers they've had over the last couple of years.
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Brian Lake was on the news tonight showing off his new Hawks jumper and it looks like the Hawks are going back to having brown numbers next year rather than the white panel with black numbers they've had over the last couple of years.
More poo lol
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Brian Lake was on the news tonight showing off his new Hawks jumper and it looks like the Hawks are going back to having brown numbers next year rather than the white panel with black numbers they've had over the last couple of years.
Don't you mean Light Black to match their stripes?
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Thank god we don't have a stupid looking straight down sash like Essendon has :chuck
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/toddlersleevelessguercadfront1.jpg) (https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/toddlersleevelessguerncadback1.jpg)
Gold Coast have gone with a larger logo on the front of their 2013 jumpers. Makes it even easier for Jacko to hit :P :lol.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/2013-Home-Guernsey.png) (https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/2013-Away-Guernsey.png)
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Straight sash is better
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Hawks with yellow numbers on a brown and gold jumper :P. The reason being there is one generic heat press number that the AFL use.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/201812_adidas_2013_away_guernsey_back-double_digit.jpg)
nb. the actual onfield guernsey won't have the white edging around the yellow numbers.
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Hawks with yellow numbers on a brown and gold jumper :P. The reason being there is one generic heat press number that the AFL use.
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/201812_adidas_2013_away_guernsey_back-double_digit.jpg)
nb. the actual onfield guernsey won't have the white edging around the yellow numbers.
Horrible
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The Hawks have added the lyrics to their theme song around the inside of the base of their guernsey.
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb365/Joshua_See/20121220_1820391_zps81bf5ab2.jpg)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/new-jumpers-for-2013.974865/page-114#post-26715889
More pics here:
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb365/Joshua_See/20121220_1822161_zps28add0a4.jpg
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb365/Joshua_See/20121220_1822341_zpsc87ed756.jpg
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As for us, a Swans fan on BF has designed two potential concept guernseys for next year's Dreamtime at the 'G game:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/craegus/RichmondDreamtimeconcept.png)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/your-2013-jumper-ideas.975069/page-23#post-26720924
By the way, the competition to enter your own design for our 2013 dreamtime guernsey is here:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2012-12-19/design-the-dreamtime-guernsey
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I would say both of those dreamtime guernseys look quality :thumbsup
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Better than the poo served up this year
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Both those not bad. What's with the writing on the hawks jumper?
Ballsacks if ever
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Design looks much better on the black than on the sash. :thumbsup
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Both those not bad. What's with the writing on the hawks jumper?
Ballsacks if ever
Worst song in the league. It's so happy the guy who wrote it must have been on acid or had a couple of cones.
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As for us, a Swans fan on BF has designed two potential concept guernseys for next year's Dreamtime at the 'G game:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/craegus/RichmondDreamtimeconcept.png)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/your-2013-jumper-ideas.975069/page-23#post-26720924
By the way, the competition to enter your own design for our 2013 dreamtime guernsey is here:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2012-12-19/design-the-dreamtime-guernsey
O M G...that is atrocious if I have ever seen it, honestly give the task to the local Grade II at st.ignatious and we'll have some improvements on that :lol
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As for us, a Swans fan on BF has designed two potential concept guernseys for next year's Dreamtime at the 'G game:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/craegus/RichmondDreamtimeconcept.png)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/your-2013-jumper-ideas.975069/page-23#post-26720924
By the way, the competition to enter your own design for our 2013 dreamtime guernsey is here:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2012-12-19/design-the-dreamtime-guernsey
O M G...that is atrocious if I have ever seen it, honestly give the task to the local Grade II at st.ignatious and we'll have some improvements on that :lol
It's better han this years
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you think so, ::)
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you think so, ::)
Yes
(http://images.theage.com.au/2012/05/18/3307509/art-svEDWARDS-420x0.jpg)
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Design looks much better on the black than on the sash. :thumbsup
Agree Magic. I don't mind the fainter second one.
Worst song in the league. It's so happy the guy who wrote it must have been on acid or had a couple of cones.
The tune is Yankee Doodle Dandy. Originally sung by James Cagney ("you dirty rat" fame).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R1jiVcIGcg
Virtually all the Victorian clubs have old mostly American show tunes as the music for their theme songs. Only the lyrics are different. Ours is the chorus of the tune 'Row row row':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq95hVO8xrg
Carlton - Lily of Laguna
Coll'wood - Goodbye Dolly Gray
Essendon - Sunnyside Up
Geelong - Stand Up and Fight
Melbourne - You're A Grand Old Flag
North Melb. - Wee Doech 'n Dorus
St Kilda - When the Saints Come Marching in
Brisbane/Fitzroy - La Marseillaise
Sydney/South Melb. - Notre Dame Victory March
Footscray/W.Bulldogs - Sons of the Sea
http://mm.afl.com.au/afl_heritage/songs_history.htm
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Design looks much better on the black than on the sash. :thumbsup
Agree Magic. I don't mind the fainter second one.
Worst song in the league. It's so happy the guy who wrote it must have been on acid or had a couple of cones.
The tune is Yankee Doodle Dandy. Originally sung by James Cagney ("you dirty rat" fame).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R1jiVcIGcg
Virtually all the Victorian clubs have old mostly American show tunes as the music for their theme songs. Only the lyrics are different. Ours is the chorus of the tune 'Row row row':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq95hVO8xrg
Carlton - Lily of Laguna
Coll'wood - Goodbye Dolly Gray
Essendon - Sunnyside Up
Geelong - Stand Up and Fight
Melbourne - You're A Grand Old Flag
North Melb. - Wee Doech 'n Dorus
St Kilda - When the Saints Come Marching in
Brisbane/Fitzroy - La Marseillaise
Sydney/South Melb. - Notre Dame Victory March
Footscray/W.Bulldogs - Sons of the Sea
http://mm.afl.com.au/afl_heritage/songs_history.htm
The tune ... But the words?
LSD and hashish
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Design looks much better on the black than on the sash. :thumbsup
Agree Magic. I don't mind the fainter second one.
Worst song in the league. It's so happy the guy who wrote it must have been on acid or had a couple of cones.
The tune is Yankee Doodle Dandy. Originally sung by James Cagney ("you dirty rat" fame).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R1jiVcIGcg
Virtually all the Victorian clubs have old mostly American show tunes as the music for their theme songs. Only the lyrics are different. Ours is the chorus of the tune 'Row row row':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq95hVO8xrg
Carlton - Lily of Laguna
Coll'wood - Goodbye Dolly Gray
Essendon - Sunnyside Up
Geelong - Stand Up and Fight
Melbourne - You're A Grand Old Flag
North Melb. - Wee Doech 'n Dorus
St Kilda - When the Saints Come Marching in
Brisbane/Fitzroy - La Marseillaise
Sydney/South Melb. - Notre Dame Victory March
Footscray/W.Bulldogs - Sons of the Sea
http://mm.afl.com.au/afl_heritage/songs_history.htm
The tune ... But the words?
LSD and hashish
Well they are a happy team at Hawthorn ;D.
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Design looks much better on the black than on the sash. :thumbsup
Agree Magic. I don't mind the fainter second one.
Worst song in the league. It's so happy the guy who wrote it must have been on acid or had a couple of cones.
The tune is Yankee Doodle Dandy. Originally sung by James Cagney ("you dirty rat" fame).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R1jiVcIGcg
Virtually all the Victorian clubs have old mostly American show tunes as the music for their theme songs. Only the lyrics are different. Ours is the chorus of the tune 'Row row row':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq95hVO8xrg
Carlton - Lily of Laguna
Coll'wood - Goodbye Dolly Gray
Essendon - Sunnyside Up
Geelong - Stand Up and Fight
Melbourne - You're A Grand Old Flag
North Melb. - Wee Doech 'n Dorus
St Kilda - When the Saints Come Marching in
Brisbane/Fitzroy - La Marseillaise
Sydney/South Melb. - Notre Dame Victory March
Footscray/W.Bulldogs - Sons of the Sea
http://mm.afl.com.au/afl_heritage/songs_history.htm
The tune ... But the words?
LSD and hashish
Well they are happy team at Hawthorn ;D.
:D
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(http://members.iinet.net.au/~dcstar/pics/Leaping_Tiger_Poster.jpg)
Does anyone know where I can get one of these.
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(http://members.iinet.net.au/~dcstar/pics/Leaping_Tiger_Poster.jpg)
Does anyone know where I can get one of these.
The Indonesian island of Sumatra ;D
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does anyone know why the fitzroy song is to the tune of the french national anthem?
geez thats a bloodthirsty song for a national anthem
Grab your weapons, citizens!
Form your batallions!
Let us march! Let us march!
May impure blood
Water our fields!
i suppose, though, that when you have been invaded, raped and pillages as often as the frogs have then its not surprising their national anthem is all about fighting off invaders.
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'invaded,raped and pillaged"....sounds like Fitzroy to a tee if you ask me
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Weakest nation in Europe is France. Soft as butter
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does anyone know why the fitzroy song is to the tune of the french national anthem?
geez thats a bloodthirsty song for a national anthem
Grab your weapons, citizens!
Form your batallions!
Let us march! Let us march!
May impure blood
Water our fields!
i suppose, though, that when you have been invaded, raped and pillages as often as the frogs have then its not surprising their national anthem is all about fighting off invaders.
The Maginot Line is a testament to French military prowess and instils Brisbane with strength every time they sing the tune.
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does anyone know why the fitzroy song is to the tune of the french national anthem?
About all I could find Al:
Brisbane Lions
The Brisbane Bears actually had their own song, but wisely embraced the former Fitzroy club song (with a couple of minor changes) when the clubs merged in 1996. Fitzroy had a song written for them by poet Norm Byron after winning the 1944 premiership, but on a trip back from Brisbane in 1955, a group of players, including Bill Stephen and Ken Ross, came up with the words, set to La Marseillaise, that remain virtually intact today.
http://mm.afl.com.au/afl_heritage/songs_history.htm#lions (http://mm.afl.com.au/afl_heritage/songs_history.htm#lions)
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you think so, ::)
Yes
(http://images.theage.com.au/2012/05/18/3307509/art-svEDWARDS-420x0.jpg)
well thats bloody crap too, unbelievable it could be so hard ::)
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does anyone know why the fitzroy song is to the tune of the french national anthem?
About all I could find Al:
Brisbane Lions
The Brisbane Bears actually had their own song, but wisely embraced the former Fitzroy club song (with a couple of minor changes) when the clubs merged in 1996. Fitzroy had a song written for them by poet Norm Byron after winning the 1944 premiership, but on a trip back from Brisbane in 1955, a group of players, including Bill Stephen and Ken Ross, came up with the words, set to La Marseillaise, that remain virtually intact today.
http://mm.afl.com.au/afl_heritage/songs_history.htm#lions (http://mm.afl.com.au/afl_heritage/songs_history.htm#lions)
i suppose they must have just liked the tune rather than fitzroy having any french connection.
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does anyone know why the fitzroy song is to the tune of the french national anthem?
geez thats a bloodthirsty song for a national anthem
Grab your weapons, citizens!
Form your batallions!
Let us march! Let us march!
May impure blood
Water our fields!
i suppose, though, that when you have been invaded, raped and pillages as often as the frogs have then its not surprising their national anthem is all about fighting off invaders.
The Maginot Line is a testament to French military prowess and instils Brisbane with strength every time they sing the tune.
France's military record battle by battle since it has existed (~1200 years) is actually pretty decent. It's just been virtually all down hill since Napoleon left the building and Waterloo (Source: I remember this answer on QI as the Poms love hanging it on the French for rolling over ;D)
I'm totally guessing but maybe a reason Fitzroy people thought of using the La Marseillaise was due to them then having the colours blue, maroon (red-ish) with a white FFC monogram and numbers? They also changed their moniker from the Gorillas to the Lions around then too. In Heraldry, they used lions on their shields and banners and the descriptive terms for it are all in French. Fitzroy's old logo had a 'passant' (ie. striding) lion with one paw over a footy before Brisbane changed it to the current hideous one :P and ticked off all the old Roys supporters.
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Hitler said he'd ruin the Eiffel tower if they didn't let him in. They shat themselves and let the Nazi's take over without putting up a fight.
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To imply the french nation did not fight or are weak is very poor form,especially for a country who has been our ally for close to a century now.
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To imply the french nation did not fight or are weak is very poor form,especially for a country who has been our ally for close to a century now.
They don't even know who we are :shh
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yep they probably dont....
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yep they probably dont....
Austria?
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Austria/australia...tomato/ tomato lets call the whole thing off(george Gershwin)
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yep they probably dont....
take a trip there sometime and see for yourself.
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spent a few weeks in salzburg,and they seemed quite interested in Australia and especially in our Aboriginal history
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i dont think Europe has the ignorant masses like the US.
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Just showed everyone at home the chimp clip Al and havent seen so much laughter in ages..ta for posting it
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;D
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WARNING: The below guernsey may be distressing to some OERites ........ ( thinking of you RollsRoyce :thumbsup )
Carlton's clash guernsey for 2013
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/02/05/1226571/102692-marc-murphy.jpg)
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-keen-to-play-eight-games-a-year-at-the-mcg/story-fnelctok-1226571102908)
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I like that jumper cyclops, will make it easier to seethe blood splattered all over the chest as we rip them apart in Rd 1.
As Jamie Jasta once said "let the blood spill" :shh
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Kooga are currently looking at a 2014 NAB Cup guernsey and clash guernsey, be interesting to see what they come up with!
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Kooga are currently looking at a 2014 NAB Cup guernsey and clash guernsey, be interesting to see what they come up with!
We changing the clash ?
This should be our clash:
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x420/Gattkid0100/RichmondClashJumper4.jpg)
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Kooga are currently looking at a 2014 NAB Cup guernsey and clash guernsey, be interesting to see what they come up with!
We changing the clash ?
This should be our clash:
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x420/Gattkid0100/RichmondClashJumper4.jpg)
:thumbsup
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Kooga are currently looking at a 2014 NAB Cup guernsey and clash guernsey, be interesting to see what they come up with!
We changing the clash ?
This should be our clash:
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x420/Gattkid0100/RichmondClashJumper4.jpg)
:thumbsup
Haha i tried to post a pic of our guernsey in yellow with a black sash.
Not working
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(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1165/richmondclash1.png)
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They'll present some stuff and we'll give feedback. We may not change if we dont like a design.
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They'll present some stuff and we'll give feedback. We may not change if we dont like a design.
Ahh ok. Are they going to have a new collar design for 2014 too?
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They'll present some stuff and we'll give feedback. We may not change if we dont like a design.
Ahh ok. Are they going to have a new collar design for 2014 too?
I really want to know this as well. Also, will the jumpers be even tighter than usual? Will the clash jumper have the same collar design as the regular jumper?
And one more thing. Honestly, WGAF?
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(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1165/richmondclash1.png)
It's for 2014 – #23 won't be with us
Thank you for using the black shorts though, nobody likes jimmy peepants
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They'll present some stuff and we'll give feedback. We may not change if we dont like a design.
Will there be a vote put to members on the different designs? :rollin
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They'll present some stuff and we'll give feedback. We may not change if we dont like a design.
Will there be a vote put to members on the different designs? :rollin
For the Clash one there should be, seeing that's how the current one was chosen ;) ;D
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Disagree
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(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1165/richmondclash1.png)
I really like that. Simple reverse strip and unmistakably Richmond.
Enough water under the bridge now not to confuse with the old WA origin jumper.
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(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1165/richmondclash1.png)
I really like that. Simple reverse strip and unmistakably Richmond.
Enough water under the bridge now not to confuse with the old WA origin jumper.
How about the all yellow one?
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Nah the black shorts one is much better. :cheers
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Nah the black shorts one is much better. :cheers
A direct reversal would mean yellow shorts with black side trimming, yellow socks with black hoops and a yellow guernsey with a black sash and no black trimming.
But I agree with you
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Nah the black shorts one is much better. :cheers
Agree.
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Gold Coast Suns 2013 clash guernsey:
(http://www.goodscore.com.au/images/pics/aflclothing/gc13/15.jpg)
http://www.goodscore.com.au/gold-coast-suns-2013-mens-clash-guernsey-size-sml-pi-120817.html
Let's hope this year we see it being worn by the losing side :P.
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Have heard 2 rumours. One that KooGa Australia is turning into BLK (the international name for KooGa) and we will be sponsored by them for 2014 and another that we have signed with Adidas and will have a home jumper, a new away and new clash jumper.
I'm hoping the Adidas one is true
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I'll go postal if we have a ridiculous clash jumper. :banghead :banghead
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I'll go postal if we have a ridiculous clash jumper. :banghead :banghead
the rumour I heard is white with yellow sash and black outline
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Have heard 2 rumours. One that KooGa Australia is turning into BLK (the international name for KooGa) and we will be sponsored by them for 2014 and another that we have signed with Adidas and will have a home jumper, a new away and new clash jumper.
I'm hoping the Adidas one is true
Adidas rumour cannot be true as we have contract with KooGa for season 2014 (final year)
As for the KooGa/ BLK thing would be surprised. kooGa is a UK company, KooGa Australia have the license to market KooGa in Aust, NZ and parts of Asia. KooGa Aust established BLK in late 2012
So far KooGa deals morphing into BLK have been for international sports eg Rugby Union = Melb Rebels went over to BKL this year
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Have heard 2 rumours. One that KooGa Australia is turning into BLK (the international name for KooGa) and we will be sponsored by them for 2014 and another that we have signed with Adidas and will have a home jumper, a new away and new clash jumper.
I'm hoping the Adidas one is true
Adidas rumour cannot be true as we have contract with KooGa for season 2014 (final year)
As for the KooGa/ BLK thing would be surprised. kooGa is a UK company, KooGa Australia have the license to market KooGa in Aust, NZ and parts of Asia. KooGa Aust established BLK in late 2012
So far KooGa deals morphing into BLK have been for international sports eg Rugby Union = Melb Rebels went over to BKL this year
Maybe the Adidas thing is for 2015 or maybe there's a get out clause
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(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclash_mowse.jpg)
Great NAB Cup Jumper this one. Would be fantastic for memorabilia possibilities with player autographs easy to read etc. Could also be used in practice preseason games.
Ive liked this design for a while. Preferably for our reserves team starting next year. I hope this one wins. :clapping
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Have heard 2 rumours. One that KooGa Australia is turning into BLK (the international name for KooGa) and we will be sponsored by them for 2014 and another that we have signed with Adidas and will have a home jumper, a new away and new clash jumper.
I'm hoping the Adidas one is true
We do not need an away jumper, it will not happen, read my lips, will not happen :shh
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(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclash_mowse.jpg)
Great NAB Cup Jumper this one. Would be fantastic for memorabilia possibilities with player autographs easy to read etc. Could also be used in practice preseason games.
Ive liked this design for a while. Preferably for our reserves team starting next year. I hope this one wins. :clapping
Actually, I don't half mind that :lol
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change the grey to black and its ok...stick to our colors RFC
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Have heard 2 rumours. One that KooGa Australia is turning into BLK (the international name for KooGa) and we will be sponsored by them for 2014 and another that we have signed with Adidas and will have a home jumper, a new away and new clash jumper.
I'm hoping the Adidas one is true
We do not need an away jumper, it will not happen, read my lips, will not happen :shh
Adidas doesn't agree
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Have heard 2 rumours. One that KooGa Australia is turning into BLK (the international name for KooGa) and we will be sponsored by them for 2014 and another that we have signed with Adidas and will have a home jumper, a new away and new clash jumper.
I'm hoping the Adidas one is true
We do not need an away jumper, it will not happen, read my lips, will not happen :shh
Adidas doesn't agree
Adidas has no say in it >:(
They are not our sponsor and wont be in 2014 we have a contract with KooGa
Also, KooGa have designed in conjunction with the Cub our our VFL jumper so I think it's fair to assume your fascination with Adidas is a bit of a waste
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Have heard 2 rumours. One that KooGa Australia is turning into BLK (the international name for KooGa) and we will be sponsored by them for 2014 and another that we have signed with Adidas and will have a home jumper, a new away and new clash jumper.
I'm hoping the Adidas one is true
We do not need an away jumper, it will not happen, read my lips, will not happen :shh
Adidas doesn't agree
Adidas has no say in it >:(
They are not our sponsor
They will be. It's a matter of time. 2014 or 2015
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They will be. It's a matter of time. 2014 or 2015
It won't be 2014
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They will be. It's a matter of time. 2014 or 2015
It won't be 2014
:whistle
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(http://i39.tinypic.com/15wnrm.png)
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(http://i39.tinypic.com/15wnrm.png)
WTF is with the straight sash! Correct it, reprint and then take and post the picture again!
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(http://i39.tinypic.com/15wnrm.png)
WTF is with the straight sash! Correct it, reprint and then take and post the picture again!
Adidas have a fetish for straight sash. A shame isn't it? Adidas with a curved sash like we have now and all these jumpers would be perfect.
Weren't we sponsored by adidas in the 70's?
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Where is this from Kov?
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Please post a link to the pics Mrakov
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It's from Big Footy
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2014-afl-jumper-ideas.1020780/page-12
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footyjumpers.com @footyjumpers twitter:
"adidas rumoured to be wooing Richmond to be their apparel sponsor - http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15wnrm&s=5#.Uj_hbj81A5k "
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RFCO's response:
"We are very happy with Kooga :thumbsu:"
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footyjumpers.com @footyjumpers twitter:
"adidas rumoured to be wooing Richmond to be their apparel sponsor - http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15wnrm&s=5#.Uj_hbj81A5k "
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RFCO's response:
"We are very happy with Kooga :thumbsu:"
Yes and Richmond has a contract that has 12 months to run :thumbsup
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footyjumpers.com @footyjumpers twitter:
"adidas rumoured to be wooing Richmond to be their apparel sponsor - http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15wnrm&s=5#.Uj_hbj81A5k "
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RFCO's response:
"We are very happy with Kooga :thumbsu:"
if say they'd tell adidas to get in the queue, they aren't the only ones after a piece of RFC just quietly, the marketing dept phones have barely stopped ringing :shh
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:ROTFL
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:ROTFL
x 2
:ROTFL :ROTFL
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I'm starting to think BO is the jack little of the forum..The RFC cannot possibly have a better spruiker than BO....well done son
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Last thing you want is to let your BO do the spruiking
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footyjumpers.com @footyjumpers twitter:
"adidas rumoured to be wooing Richmond to be their apparel sponsor - http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15wnrm&s=5#.Uj_hbj81A5k "
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RFCO's response:
"We are very happy with Kooga :thumbsu:"
if say they'd tell adidas to get in the queue, they aren't the only ones after a piece of RFC just quietly, the marketing dept phones have barely stopped ringing :shh
what are those dodgy indians from bombay selling these days?
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Well not too many clubs announce major new sponsors within days of the season finishing, ..hello viva ago go :shh
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Well not too many clubs announce major new sponsors within days of the season finishing, ..hello viva ago go :shh
A new MAJOR sponsor? Viva-ago isn't a major.
Please ::)
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Well not too many clubs announce major new sponsors within days of the season finishing, ..hello viva ago go :shh
A new MAJOR sponsor? Viva-ago isn't a major.
Please ::)
well major is an arbitrary remark, don't be pedantic ::) they were front page news on the webpage for a day and are our major ticketing partner. could you get more major than that
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Well not too many clubs announce major new sponsors within days of the season finishing, ..hello viva ago go :shh
A new MAJOR sponsor? Viva-ago isn't a major.
Please ::)
well major is an arbitrary remark, don't be pedantic ::) they were front page news on the webpage for a day and are our major ticketing partner. could you get more major than that
Yeah I could - give me Jeep, Bingle and ME Bank any day. They are clearly majors
Dont' try and make Viva-ago out to be more than what they are; a "legal" scalping agent, who's a new corporate partner of the club but nowhere near being a major. They are classified on the RFC sponsors page as being a "Gold Sponsor" which is below KooGa, Harvey Norman and Lite 'n' Easy. As I said nowhere near beign a "major"
Also, when it comes to buying tickets to games at the MCG or Etihad we will still have to use "ticketek" or "ticketmaster" who are the ticket agent of the MCG & Etihad respectively. Viva-ago wont be selling the tickets so don't get too excited or pedantic ;D
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Well not too many clubs announce major new sponsors within days of the season finishing, ..hello viva ago go :shh
A new MAJOR sponsor? Viva-ago isn't a major.
Please ::)
well major is an arbitrary remark, don't be pedantic ::) they were front page news on the webpage for a day and are our major ticketing partner. could you get more major than that
lets be honest bo you should have had your arse kicked out of here years ago. your stupidity knows no bounds. ;D
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Apparently this is the template for our away strip and dreamtime guernsey for next season ....
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/39b0b5af6e1f038d4f272e84906478f8.jpg)
http://bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/Dreamtime14CompFlyer.pdf
It's meant to represent a shield.
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Apparently this is the template for our away strip and dreamtime guernsey for next season ....
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/39b0b5af6e1f038d4f272e84906478f8.jpg)
http://bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/Dreamtime14CompFlyer.pdf
It's meant to represent a shield.
In a word UGLY
Would love to know where the "template" came from as it certainly isn't included in the flyer for the "dreamtime guernsey" comp :-\
Hopefully the people entering the "Dreamtime Guernsey" comp have a bit more creative talent than those who came up with the "template"
Makes me shudder to think what our VFL jumper is going to look like :P
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http://bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/Dreamtime14CompFlyer.pdf
Would love to know where the "template" came from as it certainly isn't included in the flyer for the "dreamtime guernsey" comp :-\
For some reason the PDF file won't fully load/download for me so I couldn't check it myself and had to rely on BF's jumper design board.
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the only thing worse than re-posting from BF on here is re-posting things that Mrakov has posted on BF
FFS ::)
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Apparently this is the template for our away strip and dreamtime guernsey for next season ....
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/39b0b5af6e1f038d4f272e84906478f8.jpg)
http://bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/Dreamtime14CompFlyer.pdf
It's meant to represent a shield.
In a word UGLY
Would love to know where the "template" came from as it certainly isn't included in the flyer for the "dreamtime guernsey" comp :-\
Hopefully the people entering the "Dreamtime Guernsey" comp have a bit more creative talent than those who came up with the "template"
Makes me shudder to think what our VFL jumper is going to look like :P
I have already posted our VFL jumper in the VFL thread ;D
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Well the template is legit
Have finally opened the "dreamtime guernsey" comp flyer and it appears as per what Mr OE posted
:gobdrop :gobdrop
Struth what are you doing RFC? The shield idea it is simply butt UGLY :banghead :banghead
And BTW if you are going to change the clash jumper at least have the courtesy to consult the members, seeing it is the members who voted and therefore choose the current one
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Apparently this is the template for our away strip and dreamtime guernsey for next season ....
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/39b0b5af6e1f038d4f272e84906478f8.jpg)
http://bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/Dreamtime14CompFlyer.pdf
It's meant to represent a shield.
yuck
they should have choosen one from 100+ years ago
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/richmond/club/history/jumper-history
dam sexy
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Crap design....and stuff the reverse strip/WA state jumper everyone wants too....here's an idea - how about we just tell the AFL to stick their clash jumpers like Collingwood did - we're not an insignificant little club like North and we shouldn't meakly back down.
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Crap design....and stuff the reverse strip/WA state jumper everyone wants too....here's an idea - how about we just tell the AFL to stick their clash jumpers like Collingwood did - we're not an insignificant little club like North and we shouldn't meakly back down.
Big test for Penny
stand up or back to Texas
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Crap design....and stuff the reverse strip/WA state jumper everyone wants too....here's an idea - how about we just tell the AFL to stick their clash jumpers like Collingwood did - we're not an insignificant little club like North and we shouldn't meakly back down.
Really?
Collingwood have a clash jumper, to say they don't is incorrect. They orginally said they wouldn't be doing one but were forced to come up with one
Granted it isn't much different from their main jumper - just more white than black but it is none the less a clash jumper
Every club in the comp has a clash jumper, how much they ended up differing from their respective traditional jumpers was the choice of each club and then signed off by the AFL.
The fact that some are not very far removed from their traditional jumpers (eg Pies and Tigers) is not because of clubs standing up to the AFL but more to do with the AFL not having the guts to force clubs to make radical changes
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I like it. I loike it a lot :thumbsup
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Crap design....and stuff the reverse strip/WA state jumper everyone wants too....here's an idea - how about we just tell the AFL to stick their clash jumpers like Collingwood did - we're not an insignificant little club like North and we shouldn't meakly back down.
Really?
Collingwood have a clash jumper, to say they don't is incorrect. They orginally said they wouldn't be doing one but were forced to come up with one
Granted it isn't much different from their main jumper - just more white than black but it is none the less a clash jumper
Every club in the comp has a clash jumper, how much they ended up differing from their respective traditional jumpers was the choice of each club and then signed off by the AFL.
The fact that some are not very far removed from their traditional jumpers (eg Pies and Tigers) is not because of clubs standing up to the AFL but more to do with the AFL not having the guts to force clubs to make radical changes
If Collingwood really had a clash strip then we wouldn't see the ridiculous situation of North having to wear their clash strip when they play Collingwood as the home team. The whole idea is nothing but a cynical marketing exercise and a revenue raising scam. Makes you wonder how people were ever able to watch the game on black & white television for all those years or when the grounds used to get muddy like they did for a century and still do in the lower leagues.
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black & white tv wasn't exactly a joy to watch
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Yes but we still managed alright, just like we'd go watch those games where both teams were caked in mud after 10 minutes.
It's all the more laughable and lacking in credibilty when we've had matches in recent years where the runners & even the umpires are all decked out in gear that clashes with teams far worse than any of the guernseys do.
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Even with clash jumpers, some games you still have to look for the shorts when watching on TV.
Its not that hard to do.
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Here's the actual 2014 clash jumper ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16038-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-clash-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16037-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-clash-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-clash-guernsey-37875.phtml#.UptF-OL86RN
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Also the 2014 preseason guernsey ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16030-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16029-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-37882.phtml#.UptR7uL86RM
and the 2014 normal home guernsey ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16040-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16039-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-37868.phtml#.UptSj-L86RM
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Here's the actual 2014 clash jumper ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16038-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-clash-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16037-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-clash-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-clash-guernsey-37875.phtml#.UptF-OL86RN
::) ::)
:help
Interesting to see that the Rebel web-site has cheaper prices than the club and a greater range (they've got the BLK caps ;D) :o :o
Mr RFC_O won't be happy
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Here's the actual 2014 clash jumper ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16038-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-clash-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16037-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-clash-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-clash-guernsey-37875.phtml#.UptF-OL86RN
::) ::)
:help
Interesting to see that the Rebel web-site has cheaper prices than the club and a greater range (they've got the BLK caps ;D) :o :o
Mr RFC_O won't be happy
Its not as bad as the original template on computer.
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Side panels skinnier, I like it.
Pretty poo of the footy club to have rebel cheaper, stop being greedy rfc
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Also the 2014 preseason guernsey ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16030-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16029-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-37882.phtml#.UptR7uL86RM
and the 2014 normal home guernsey ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16040-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16039-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-37868.phtml#.UptSj-L86RM
That's a training jumper. Pre season jumper is black
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BLK sucks ass
"beyond limits known" seriously what a wank
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That's a training jumper. Pre season jumper is black
Last year's was black, who says they havent' changed it or they intend to have both ;D
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That's a training jumper. Pre season jumper is black
Last year's was black, who says they havent' changed it or they intend to have both ;D
The RFC site that's who
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That's a training jumper. Pre season jumper is black
Last year's was black, who says they havent' changed it or they intend to have both ;D
The RFC site that's who
The pre season jumper is black per the Superstore:
https://shop.richmondfc.com.au/index.cfm?fuseaction=Product&CategoryID=2663&ProductID=38462
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:fishing :fishing
:dancing :dancing
:eyebrow :eyebrow
:highfive :highfive
:boxer :boxer
Gotcha ;D
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:fishing :fishing
:dancing :dancing
:eyebrow :eyebrow
:highfive :highfive
:boxer :boxer
Gotcha ;D
You should be carded for trolling
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You should be carded for trolling
Now that is funny on so many levels ;D :rollin
:thumbsup
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You should be carded for trolling
Now that is funny on so many levels ;D :rollin
:thumbsup
Don't push your luck sonny
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Also the 2014 preseason guernsey ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16030-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16029-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-37882.phtml#.UptR7uL86RM
and the 2014 normal home guernsey ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16040-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16039-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-37868.phtml#.UptSj-L86RM
That's a training jumper. Pre season jumper is black
Yellow one is still a pre season jumper. Just OE didn't specify it's a pre-season training jumper... :shh
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Also the 2014 preseason guernsey ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16030-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16029-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-nab-cup-guernsey-37882.phtml#.UptR7uL86RM
and the 2014 normal home guernsey ...
(http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16040-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-740.jpg) (http://rebel.fangear.com/products/16039-richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-740.jpg)
http://rebel.fangear.com/richmond-tigers-2014-mens-replica-home-guernsey-37868.phtml#.UptSj-L86RM
That's a training jumper. Pre season jumper is black
Yellow one is still a pre season jumper. Just OE didn't specify it's a pre-season training jumper... :shh
I think they use the grey and yellow for regular season training. We have a singlet for pre season
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BLK sucks ass
"beyond limits known" seriously what a wank
Lol never knew that, first Tim I've noticed it was on sonny bill the the other night!
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well it's obverse to me there is only one way to go with an alternate strip...
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/a8a49b61a9091d8df972eb4b58053ff1.jpg)
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well it's obverse to me there is only one way to go with an alternate strip...
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/a8a49b61a9091d8df972eb4b58053ff1.jpg)
:clapping WP what are your thoughts ?
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well it's obverse to me there is only one way to go with an alternate strip...
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/a8a49b61a9091d8df972eb4b58053ff1.jpg)
Is this what the reserves will be wearing>?
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:clapping WP what are your thoughts ?
Go back through this thread and my thoughts on this design are available
No need to repeat them
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:clapping WP what are your thoughts ?
Go back through this thread and my thoughts on this design are available
No need to repeat them
What page
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:clapping WP what are your thoughts ?
Go back through this thread and my thoughts on this design are available
No need to repeat them
What page
Don't know
You want them; then you go searching, you'll find them
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:clapping WP what are your thoughts ?
Go back through this thread and my thoughts on this design are available
No need to repeat them
What page
Don't know
You want them; then you go searching, you'll find them
cbf
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well it's obverse to me there is only one way to go with an alternate strip...
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/a8a49b61a9091d8df972eb4b58053ff1.jpg)
Needs less lemon and more WA STATE
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:clapping WP what are your thoughts ?
Go back through this thread and my thoughts on this design are available
No need to repeat them
What page
Don't know
You want them; then you go searching, you'll find them
cbf
:lol :clapping
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ffs we have one jumper home or away. for those who dont know its black with a yellow sash and it clashes with no one. what a lot of cods wallop this clash jumper bull crap is.
stuff you vlad and stuff every other bugger we are richmond and our history is important to us and its not up for sale.
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ffs we have one jumper home or away. for those who dont know its black with a yellow sash and it clashes with no one. what a lot of cods wallop this clash jumper bull crap is.
stuff you vlad and stuff every other bugger we are richmond and our history is important to us and its not up for sale.
bring back our navy blue jimper
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Bring back the original hawthornesque black and yellow verticle stripes
Stuff you vlad ::)
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bring back our navy blue jimper
Can someone euthanize this Mrakov clown once and for all.
Unforgivable form there Mrakov.
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bring back our navy blue jimper
Can someone euthanize this Mrakov clown once and for all.
Unforgivable form there Mrakov.
I think he's referring to our first ever guernsey in 1885.
(http://www.bomberblitz.com/mero/images/Richmond-1885.gif)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/richmond/club/history/jumper-history
Prefer the traditional black with yellow sash obviously but I must admit I don't mind the Y&B hoops as a footy jumper based our 1902-05 hooped version ...
(http://www.bomberblitz.com/mero/images/Richmond-1902.gif)
(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4162/clashjumper.png)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jumpers-in-the-firing-line-richmond-clash-jumper.967426/
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I actually like the hoop version.
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I like in the US sports how it's typically coloured strip home, white away (opposite for NBA). Alleviates this clash strip drama. Many of the clubs are already doing it. I know some argue tradition but it's fair if everyone does it.
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I like in the US sports how it's typically coloured strip home, white away (opposite for NBA). Alleviates this clash strip drama. Many of the clubs are already doing it. I know some argue tradition but it's fair if everyone does it.
Something like this?
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclash_mowse.jpg)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jumpers-in-the-firing-line-richmond-clash-jumper.967426/#post-25308096
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I like in the US sports how it's typically coloured strip home, white away (opposite for NBA). Alleviates this clash strip drama. Many of the clubs are already doing it. I know some argue tradition but it's fair if everyone does it.
Something like this?
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f100/MowseRFC/richclash_mowse.jpg)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jumpers-in-the-firing-line-richmond-clash-jumper.967426/#post-25308096
That be the one :thumbsup
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I remember when reebok brought out a white pre season jumper. I think the club sold 2 of them
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that was because it was Reebok though.
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that was because it was Reebok though.
:clapping
;D
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that was because it was Reebok though.
Thanks for that stat. Reebok is still better than kooga
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For those that wanted a yellow jumper with a black sash, it will be our VFL side's clash strip.
Our AFL clash strip will be like our VFL side's home jumper.
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Images/vfljumpersheromain.jpg)
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For those that wanted a yellow jumper with a black sash, it will be our VFL side's clash strip.
Our AFL clash strip will be like our VFL side's home jumper.
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Images/vfljumpersheromain.jpg)
I reckon in time the yellow one will become our afl clash
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I'm a tad underwhelmed by the leotard version of the home strip ::)
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shame the didnt go for a strip from the 1900s era
would have been marvelous
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For those that wanted a yellow jumper with a black sash, it will be our VFL side's clash strip.
Our AFL clash strip will be like our VFL side's home jumper.
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Images/vfljumpersheromain.jpg)
For the record the away grl strip has no black sash on the back
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For those that wanted a yellow jumper with a black sash, it will be our VFL side's clash strip.
Our AFL clash strip will be like our VFL side's home jumper.
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Images/vfljumpersheromain.jpg)
I reckon in time the yellow one will become our afl clash
I hope so.
Looks effing great
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i was blown away by the yellow jumper yesterday at the launch. i'll definitely be getting me one of those !
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i was blown away by the yellow jumper yesterday at the launch. i'll definitely be getting me one of those !
Looks like poo in the photos. Glad it looked good in the flesh.
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i was blown away by the yellow jumper yesterday at the launch. i'll definitely be getting me one of those !
Looks like poo in the photos. Glad it looked good in the flesh.
How dare you >:(
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i was blown away by the yellow jumper yesterday at the launch. i'll definitely be getting me one of those !
Looks like poo in the photos. Glad it looked good in the flesh.
How dare you >:(
I said I'm glad it looked good in the flesh. That's all that matters. Will let Mrakov stress about how they look in a photo and whether the branding is right. :cheers
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i was blown away by the yellow jumper yesterday at the launch. i'll definitely be getting me one of those !
Looks like poo in the photos. Glad it looked good in the flesh.
How dare you >:(
I said I'm glad it looked good in the flesh. That's all that matters. Will let Mrakov stress about how they look in a photo and whether the branding is right. :cheers
.................. :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Brisbane members have voted to dump the 'paddlepop' lion in 2015 and return back to their old jumper.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/brisbane-lions/brisbane-lions-to-remove-paddlepop-lion-from-guernsey-20131218-2zlha.html
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It looks like you'll soon be able to buy our VFL reverse strip (yellow with black sash) for those interested.
Mark Tatulaschwili - "Can we buy the VFL away strip yet? Looks sweet as"
Richmond FC - "We will more than likely have it on sale closer to the VFL season."
Anne Gehring - "Would be great to be able to buy the away vfl strip!"
Richmond FC - "We anticipate they'll be on sale closer to the VFL season start."
https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
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inb4 not for sale
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Richmond FC - "We will more than likely have it on sale closer to the VFL season."
Richmond FC - "We anticipate they'll be on sale closer to the VFL season start."
https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
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Translation:- We kinda are sure they might be ready, but when the poo hits the inevitable fan - hey, we didnt give any guarantees.
Lets face it. They havent been ordered, and even if they have, there is no confidence they will arrive remotely close to the date
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Richmond FC - "We will more than likely have it on sale closer to the VFL season."
Richmond FC - "We anticipate they'll be on sale closer to the VFL season start."
https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
Translation:- We kinda are sure they might be ready, but when the poo hits the inevitable fan - hey, we didnt give any guarantees.
Lets face it. They havent been ordered, and even if they have, there is no confidence they will arrive remotely close to the date
[/quote]
Another BLK/Kooga fail
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Another BLK/Kooga fail
Same poo, different year
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Another BLK/Kooga fail
Same poo, different year
But all acceptable according to WP
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Another BLK/Kooga fail
Same poo, different year
But all acceptable according to WP
Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion but in my mind this whole vfl guernsey matter has been one big ballsup
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Richmond FC - "We will more than likely have it on sale closer to the VFL season."
Richmond FC - "We anticipate they'll be on sale closer to the VFL season start."
https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
Translation:- We kinda are sure they might be ready, but when the poo hits the inevitable fan - hey, we didnt give any guarantees.
Lets face it. They havent been ordered, and even if they have, there is no confidence they will arrive remotely close to the date
They haven't been ordered as there's a turnaround time that hasn't hit yet, and we're very confident they will arrive on the date.
Edited to correct quote
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inb4 VFL clash sells more than AFL home jumper :shh
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Richmond FC - "We will more than likely have it on sale closer to the VFL season."
Richmond FC - "We anticipate they'll be on sale closer to the VFL season start."
https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
Translation:- We kinda are sure they might be ready, but when the poo hits the inevitable fan - hey, we didnt give any guarantees.
Lets face it. They havent been ordered, and even if they have, there is no confidence they will arrive remotely close to the date
They haven't been ordered as there's a turnaround time that hasn't hit yet, and we're very confident they will arrive on the date.
Edited to correct quote
They'll take until August to arrive by ship from China
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Richmond FC - "We will more than likely have it on sale closer to the VFL season."
Richmond FC - "We anticipate they'll be on sale closer to the VFL season start."
https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
Translation:- We kinda are sure they might be ready, but when the poo hits the inevitable fan - hey, we didnt give any guarantees.
Lets face it. They havent been ordered, and even if they have, there is no confidence they will arrive remotely close to the date
They haven't been ordered as there's a turnaround time that hasn't hit yet, and we're very confident they will arrive on the date.
Edited to correct quote
Ill tell you now they wont be available on the date. Be that they dont make it in time, or only very limited stock is available due to grossly under estimating demand.
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Richmond FC - "We will more than likely have it on sale closer to the VFL season."
Richmond FC - "We anticipate they'll be on sale closer to the VFL season start."
https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
Translation:- We kinda are sure they might be ready, but when the poo hits the inevitable fan - hey, we didnt give any guarantees.
Lets face it. They havent been ordered, and even if they have, there is no confidence they will arrive remotely close to the date
They haven't been ordered as there's a turnaround time that hasn't hit yet, and we're very confident they will arrive on the date.
Edited to correct quote
Ill tell you now they wont be available on the date. Be that they dont make it in time, or only very limited stock is available due to grossly under estimating demand.
What do you think demand will be?
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Richmond FC - "We will more than likely have it on sale closer to the VFL season."
Richmond FC - "We anticipate they'll be on sale closer to the VFL season start."
https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
Translation:- We kinda are sure they might be ready, but when the poo hits the inevitable fan - hey, we didnt give any guarantees.
Lets face it. They havent been ordered, and even if they have, there is no confidence they will arrive remotely close to the date
They haven't been ordered as there's a turnaround time that hasn't hit yet, and we're very confident they will arrive on the date.
Edited to correct quote
Ill tell you now they wont be available on the date. Be that they dont make it in time, or only very limited stock is available due to grossly under estimating demand.
What do you think demand will be?
Please do not enable the trolls.
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Richmond FC - "We will more than likely have it on sale closer to the VFL season."
Richmond FC - "We anticipate they'll be on sale closer to the VFL season start."
https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
Translation:- We kinda are sure they might be ready, but when the poo hits the inevitable fan - hey, we didnt give any guarantees.
Lets face it. They havent been ordered, and even if they have, there is no confidence they will arrive remotely close to the date
They haven't been ordered as there's a turnaround time that hasn't hit yet, and we're very confident they will arrive on the date.
Edited to correct quote
Ill tell you now they wont be available on the date. Be that they dont make it in time, or only very limited stock is available due to grossly under estimating demand.
What do you think demand will be?
(http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/149-homer-facepalm.jpg)
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RFCO - so young, so innocent....
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WP will you be buying the yellow guernsey
Mrakov
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RFCO - so young, so innocent....
Was interested to see how much our answers would have differed.
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What do you think demand will be?
Interesting question Stig
I reckon you'll move between 100-250 (closer to 150) with the greater demand being for the alternate yellow VFL strip
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What do you think demand will be?
Interesting question Stig
I reckon you'll move between 100-250 (closer to 150) with the greater demand being for the alternate yellow VFL strip
Way unders.
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RFCO - so young, so innocent....
Was interested to see how much our answers would have differed.
Any idea what they'll be selling for and if we can pre-order? I'm pretty keen on the VFL clash strip.
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RFCO - so young, so innocent....
Was interested to see how much our answers would have differed.
Any idea what they'll be selling for and if we can pre-order? I'm pretty keen on the VFL clash strip.
Not sure on price, and pre-order will be available in a few weeks.
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Bump.
Define a few weeks please.
Seems all a bit overly relaxed and non-committal.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgQPaHZCMAEJwMY.jpg)
Click here: https://shop.richmondfc.com.au/index.cfm?fuseaction=subcategorylisting&CategoryID=2663&SubCategoryID=3183&utm_source=VFLGuernseysTwitter&utm_medium=Hero&utm_campaign=VFLGuernseysTwitter
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From Richmond_FC's facebook page:
"Tiger Army, today is the last day you can order a 2014 VFL Guernsey! Don’t miss out!"
https://shop.richmondfc.com.au/index.cfm?fuseaction=subcategorylisting&CategoryID=2663&SubCategoryID=3183&utm_source=VFLguernseys2nd&utm_medium=FB&utm_campaign=VFLguernseys2nd
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Here's what our alternative VFL guernsey looks like in action ...
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Images/318155-tlsgallerylandscape.jpg)
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Images/318156-tlsgallerylandscape.jpg)
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Photo%20Galleries/2013%20-%20Galleries/318126-tlsgallerylandscape.jpg)
Thoughts?
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It's ok but definitely lacks the power of the traditional black and yellow sash strip. Always think of the WA origin jumper. Just doesn't feel 'Richmond' to me. Think it has something to do with too much yellow..dunno.
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Why wear prodominately yellow against the Dogs ? Why not the yellow sash ?
In AFL Vic speak perhaps Pre-conditioning the market .....
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Why wear prodominately yellow against the Dogs ? Why not the yellow sash ?
In AFL Vic speak perhaps Pre-conditioning the market .....
VFL has away guernseys as opposed to clash guernseys
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It's ok but definitely lacks the power of the traditional black and yellow sash strip. Always think of the WA origin jumper. Just doesn't feel 'Richmond' to me. Think it has something to do with too much yellow..dunno.
Better than Blue and Red.
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Why wear prodominately yellow against the Dogs ? Why not the yellow sash ?
In AFL Vic speak perhaps Pre-conditioning the market .....
VFL has away guernseys as opposed to clash guernseys
Who would've thought the VFL would be ahead of the AFL on this
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Why wear prodominately yellow against the Dogs ? Why not the yellow sash ?
In AFL Vic speak perhaps Pre-conditioning the market .....
Because it's a praccy game ;D
VFL has away guernseys as opposed to clash guernseys
They do? Since when?
The VFL have a clash guernseys policy and when required they direct clubs to wear them
However, my understanding is that clubs have the option of wearing them for away games if they chose.
Port Melb for one doesn't have an away guernsey, actually don't think they even have a clash guernsey ;D
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It's ok but definitely lacks the power of the traditional black and yellow sash strip. Always think of the WA origin jumper. Just doesn't feel 'Richmond' to me. Think it has something to do with too much yellow..dunno.
Better than Blue and Red.
There's that I guess.
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Why wear prodominately yellow against the Dogs ? Why not the yellow sash ?
In AFL Vic speak perhaps Pre-conditioning the market .....
Because it's a praccy game ;D
VFL has away guernseys as opposed to clash guernseys
They do? Since when?
The VFL have a clash guernseys policy and when required they direct clubs to wear them
However, my understanding is that clubs have the option of wearing them for away games if they chose.
Port Melb for one doesn't have an away guernsey, actually don't think they even have a clash guernsey ;D
They were meant to wear the home afl clash strip vs the dogs but the players started to weep when they saw how ugly the look. The decision was then made to wear the yellow with black sash.
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Good looking jumper
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VFL has away guernseys as opposed to clash guernseys
They do? Since when?
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I assumed it was the case given Coburg always seemed to wear the red guernsey with blue sash for all away games. Why would a club do that when it is not league policy?
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VFL has away guernseys as opposed to clash guernseys
They do? Since when?
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I assumed it was the case given Coburg always seemed to wear the red guernsey with blue sash for all away games. Why would a club do that when it is not league policy?
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Coburg only ever wore their clash (alternate) guernsey (red with blue sash) when they were directed to by the VFL. Never wore it unless they had to
As I said clubs are free to wear their alternate guernsey if they chose, some like North Ballarat do a fair bit, others like Coburg, Frankston avoid it
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The Crows have a new clash jumper:
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelNewJumper200.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-07/crows-reveal-new-clash-jumper
Are we still sticking with the yellow down the sides one?
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Adelaide obviously forgoing next year's AFL season to participate in the Tour de France instead.
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The Crows have a new clash jumper:
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelNewJumper200.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-07/crows-reveal-new-clash-jumper
Are we still sticking with the yellow down the sides one?
Looks like they employed my 1 year old to do the design work.
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(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2014/11/90688_1967e47c58023acd5ba4fde0d628bef2.jpg)
Hawks have taken the copying to another level for 2015
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stuffing wannabes, I told you they were slowly trying to steal our colours
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Brisbane's alternative strip ...
(https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/13240_379188898922011_2212826840212184865_n.jpg?oh=87b030a9428cb412b628ad8b68acb0e7&oe=54D1EEEB)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=379188898922011
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Brisbane's alternative strip ...
(https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/13240_379188898922011_2212826840212184865_n.jpg?oh=87b030a9428cb412b628ad8b68acb0e7&oe=54D1EEEB)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=379188898922011
Surely a joke ? Makes essendons grey one look good
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Brisbane's alternative strip ...
(https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/13240_379188898922011_2212826840212184865_n.jpg?oh=87b030a9428cb412b628ad8b68acb0e7&oe=54D1EEEB)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=379188898922011
I don't mind that.
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Hawthorn's latest away strip is a very dark 'brown' :whistle
(http://i.imgur.com/7ai7H76.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/e1GdeVb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WpBJufm.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/8I09r6o.jpg)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/new-clash-strip.1075457/page-12#post-36183082
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The Dees have unveiled two new away/clash jumpers for 2015:
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/59780da84279ef97f12be98b0077e241.jpg)
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-11-18/melbourne-launches-alternate-guernseys
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Lulz at Melbourne...... MFC "Made For Capitulation"
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Lulz at Melbourne...... MFC "Made For Capitulation"
Lmao :clapping that one is a keeper.
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Essendon's clash strip this year. They'll wear it against us in Round 17.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/dons-clash-jumper-200.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-11/dons-new-red-clash-jumper-honours-club-legend-tim-watson
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(http://i67.tinypic.com/2w4k0mo.jpg)
Apologies to the innocent players pictured but this is more appropriate
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Essendon is making a big deal about returning to a curved sash.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwpoo0hVQAAqkZ3.jpg)
Brisbane are going with a bad news bears version in 2017.
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4f42d7ea595786b067feff2077dc1500?width=650)
North are going with their reverse royal blue guernsey next year as their 'home' jumper.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwYA6KjVEAA9RjK.jpg)
Hawthorn's 2017 away guernsey:
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/909aed97e7849d379d63e2c733badf90?width=650)
Collingwood:
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/083bbe09144d22432b25f048428ee027?width=650)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/collingwood-essendon-and-hawthorn-among-clubs-to-wear-new-guernsey-designs-in-2017/news-story/0ed8eceb7f1088395fc55acdec0143cf
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Trendsetters again. We win a flag in our clash strip and now other clubs are rushing to promote alternative strips:
Eagles' new logo and guernsey:
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/eagles-logo-jumper-1024.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNmQKjQV4AA_GwI.png)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-01/eagles-new-jumper-and-logo-a-nod-to-the-past
https://twitter.com/footyjumpers/status/925929721124110336
Pies have gone back to the pin-stripes with their "clash" strip:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNhQuqJVwAASAxO.jpg)
https://twitter.com/rdhinds/status/925578488291065856
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How does that jumper stop a clash from occurring? It's the same as their non clash strip! :huh
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West Coast's new emblem looks like Hawthorn's but reversed and the respective colours.
How an earth was that ticked off?
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West Coast's new logo is pretty average.
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How does that jumper stop a clash from occurring? It's the same as their non clash strip! :huh
They are stuffing taking the loss that mob and the AFL just stand there walking them on.
As for the Eagles they change their jumper more often than I change jocks. No history no tradition. Fake club
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Just on the Eagles
They are no longer with Puma
So it appears the only AFL club sponsored by Puma in 2018 is Richmond
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How does that jumper stop a clash from occurring? It's the same as their non clash strip! :huh
They lack relevance in the AFL, this is another example of a lack of progressive thinking in their organisation
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The Blues' latest alternative strip monstrosity last night:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX6h3mkU0AAK7Ve.jpg)
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Why silver/grey???
Poort, Demons, Essendon.... it always looks crap
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Why silver/grey???
Poort, Demons, Essendon.... it always looks crap
It is cheap. It is cheap, it looks cheap.
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This is just another reason to love our yellow clash jumper! :bow
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Why silver/grey???
Poort, Demons, Essendon.... it always looks crap
It is cheap. It is cheap, it looks cheap.
Dad bought me the silver richmond preseason outfit as a kid for "something different". I am not going to lie, did not wear that out too often
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Hawthorn's latest away strip:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dz_FEysVAAAVmNQ.jpg)
https://twitter.com/footyjumpers/status/1098813524791291904
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The Blues' latest alternative strip monstrosity last night:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX6h3mkU0AAK7Ve.jpg)
Let's face it, the only Carlton strip worth looking at was Helen Damico
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Hawthorn's latest away strip:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dz_FEysVAAAVmNQ.jpg)
https://twitter.com/footyjumpers/status/1098813524791291904
Hawthorn need to find a Damico