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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ramps on May 29, 2009, 11:20:33 AM
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Would he want to do it?
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Would have to say it would be a big risk for a starting out coach trying to establish their coaching career at the RFC.
You have to go back a while to find an ex RFC coach who's coaching career has gone onto bigger and better things or has been allowed to retire gracefully and with good rep after the RFC train ride has finished.
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Give the job to an experienced coach ie Sheeds, Pagan, or Matthews on a two year contract.
Offer Buckley and Hird assistant jobs.
:outtahere
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You have to go back a while to find an ex RFC coach who's coaching career has gone onto bigger and better things or has been allowed to retire gracefully and with good rep after the RFC train ride has finished.
Hafey??
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Hafey??
Yep about 15 coaches ago ( PS this is unsubstantiated just my lazy guess)
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John Northey left richmond with his rep intact.......Anyhow I would think Bucks would have too much to loose if he took the Richmond gig.
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.......Anyhow I would think Bucks would have too much to loose if he took the Richmond gig.
I agree but I would go as far to say (an I posted this on another thread) I don't think Buckley would have the "courage" to take on Richmond simply because as you say mat073 he would have so much to lose
Toughest gig in town because of who we are, would massive take courage
Rewards would be amazing but I just reckon as a rookie coach you'd need incredible guts to take it on because your coaching reputation would be shot if you failed
And let's not forget how qucikly some supporters turn ;D
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buckley doesnt want the job and neither does hardwick
Hinkley is the front runner at this stage
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buckley doesnt want the job and neither does hardwick
Hinkley is the front runner at this stage
re: Hardwick. what makes you so sure about that??
If that is the case i hope they decline our offer and miss the boat completely. Its not as if there are so many opportunities to coach out there
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Matthews as coach for sure. Eff the first time coach scenario off. No one earns more respect than a Matthews or Sheedy. Two yr contract with, as someone else said Buckley or Hird assistant to take over then. :thumbsup
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Matthews as coach for sure. Eff the first time coach scenario off. No one earns more respect than a Matthews or Sheedy. Two yr contract with, as someone else said Buckley or Hird assistant to take over then. :thumbsup
I'm not sure I like someone with a name I can't pronounce agreeing with me.
:lol
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name comes from me always telling mates who think someone should be picked before nahas,
I say nah nahas. Hope it helps!
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The question may be 'would he come to Tigerland' but perhaps it should be 'do we want him!' Judged on his commentary on how great Rocker (sp?) is for the team and similiar comments, I wouldn't want him at the club. He is far too Collingwood centric and would only be a watered down version of Malthouse at best. Best to go with someone who has had at least some experience at a range of clubs if possible.
Stripes
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The only reason I would want him is to upset Cwood fans. But like WP says I don't think he would have the courage to coach us.
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.......Anyhow I would think Bucks would have too much to loose if he took the Richmond gig.
I agree but I would go as far to say (an I posted this on another thread) I don't think Buckley would have the "courage" to take on Richmond simply because as you say mat073 he would have so much to lose
Toughest gig in town because of who we are, would massive take courage
Rewards would be amazing but I just reckon as a rookie coach you'd need incredible guts to take it on because your coaching reputation would be shot if you failed
And let's not forget how qucikly some supporters turn ;D
this is why i think Chocco is a good chance. Looks to have the guts and it might be an appealing challenge for him if he can't do any more with Port. Hinkely appealing also. I just hope it's not one of the old crew.
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This thread should be closed.
With the Lions doing so well with an untried Vossy the door will be wide open for one Nathan Buckley to head up the Pies.
Move on he hates us and would NEVER join our club
Living in fantasy land if you think he will become our coach.
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I'd doubt too that Buckley would want to coach Richmond but if the Pies win again tomorrow then Malthouse's chances of surviving as coach will rise and Bucks will have to look elsewhere even as an assistant coach to begin with.
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The biggest question isn't "Would he want the job?", but more "Would he want the job long term?"
My biggest concern would be him viewing us as a development role as a stepping stone towards getting the Collingwood job
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Nathan Buckley can put Richmond back on track as coach
Jonathan Brown | June 05, 2009
NATHAN Buckley looms as the first-choice answer to the coaching dramas at Richmond - if he wants to be.
While it's difficult for an outsider to judge the events inside Punt Road which saw Terry Wallace split with the club this week, and I've got no inside knowledge on Buckley, I'll be surprised if the former Collingwood captain is not at the top of the Tigers' hit list.
And if it works out that Buckley is in charge next year, he'll have Michael Voss to thank in part.
It's inevitable Buckley will be an AFL coach, but there's no doubt Vossy's first-year success with the Lions has strengthened the case for him to step straight into a senior job.
As much as popular opinion says you should do a coaching apprenticeship, I can't agree. Especially with long-time captains like Voss and Buckley who are so heavily involved.
I've noticed it myself as solo captain this year - you see a lot more about what goes on away from the playing group and it gives you a much greater appreciation of the things and a chance to formulate ideas on how you'd run your own club.
Voss and Buckley have followed a strikingly similar pathway in retirement, working as an expert comments man on TV while doing some part-time coaching with the AIS/AFL Academy.
I don't know Buckley well but I've enjoyed his commentary. It's obvious he's got a terrific footy mind and there's no reason he couldn't do an outstanding job in rebuilding the Tigers.
It was a merciful end for Wallace when the parties agreed to split and the right outcome. Once the club decided he wasn't going to be there next year it made sense for him to move on so they could do what they've got to do without feeling like they were going behind his back all the time.
The priorities are different now - it's not about a coach trying to save his job but a club getting ready for the next chapter under a new coach.
The writing was on the wall when Richmond were smashed by Carlton by 83 points in round 1.
Then, when they lost to Melbourne in round 4 it was going to take something special to save him.
The choice of caretaker coach, to be announced tomorrow, is an interesting one, and I'm hoping ex-Lions teammate Craig McRae, currently the Tigers' development coach, gets the gig.
The footy grapevine says "Fly" is hugely popular with the players and has a terrific rapport with them. He's a very good teacher, communicates extra well and is the sort of guy who would make footy fun.
When you've been through what the Tigers have been through, that's a good starting point.
A caretaker role can be a pathway to a full-time gig, as it was with Brett Ratten when he replaced Denis Pagan at Carlton midway through 2007. Likewise Paul Roos at Sydney in 2002.
But it can be a poisoned chalice, as it was when Roger Merrett replaced John Northey mid-season with the Lions in '98, only to be replaced by Leigh Matthews for '99.
Wayne Campbell, former Richmond captain and early favourite for the job next year, might be reluctant to take it on without any guarantees.
I won't even try to guess what will happen short term or long term, but it's terrific to have ex-teammates McRae, Justin Leppitsch, Brad Scott, Chris Scott and Nigel Lappin as part of the AFL coaching scene, in addition to Vossy, and in the mix for different coaching jobs in the future.
Just as it was back at Hawthorn in their heyday, when Allan Jeans' teams produced a lot of coaches, it says a lot about the Lions group of 2001-03 and is a big tick for "Lethal Leigh".
Wallace was part of that Hawks group, and as much as he'll admit his time at Punt Road has been a failure, he shouldn't carry all the blame and should still be favourably remembered.
One of only 17 people to play and/or coach 500 AFL games, he was a triple premiership player, a four-time B and F winner and a successful coach at the Western Bulldogs, missing a grand final by a kick in '97.
No doubt the 2009 Tigers are a better side than their 2-8 win/loss record suggests, and I'm tipping that whoever has the job to the end of the season will see some significant improvement.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25586914-10389,00.html
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Rhettrospective.com has learnt N. Buckley will still be sounded out regarding Richmond coaching role, regardless of caretaker success.
http://eatemalive.blogspot.com/
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If Campbell is the caretaker, then I cant see him tanking, he will try and win as many games as possible to give him his best shot at winning the job, in effect getting us bad picks, and losing us the priority we desperately need, for Buckley to have any chance at the gig, the Campbell has to get the caretakers job and fail miserably.
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Buckley made some interesting comments during the game last night that definitely pointed towards him considering applying for the job.
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Cant stand the man, l dont want him anywhere near Richmond.
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I do, at least he wont suffer crap and soft performances from anyone and will make his own decisions.
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He has made some more today, IMHO he is definately interested.
Richmond for all our crap, we are a great club still with massive numbers, a coach or a prospective coach with an ego would do handstands to get it. The whole Buckley thing is a big story, the possibilities are endless, the Collingwood great who never got a flag goes to the enemy and succeeds. I reckon Buckley would want it.
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Egotistical Skunk.
Bias aside, if it did happen we could do a lot worse.
Some say Terry was an egotist and all about Terry, but really who isn't.
Bucks would match Terry in the ego stakes if not outdo him.
Has a good footy background and seems to know his stuff.
Will not be any of the player charades of the past few weeks going on if Figjam is coaching.
Wont put up with any pussies like petticoat etc
Not real keen, but could prove to be a masterstroke.
Then again who knows with the RFC :banghead :gotigers
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Buckley has already put a line through quite afew if he gets the job. Hes interested and probably preparing for his interviews and presentation.
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The way he spoke last night, he sounded as he'd been doing a bit of research and paying a bit of attention to our list.
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Also been heavily involved in coaching the AIS Boys from what I understand. Thats also a bonus. He has had some experience in dealing with players and organising them.
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i stand to be corrected but I just couldnt see this prick being too interested in our club...I could be wrong , have been plenty of times this year...Id love it if he had an appetite to be involved but I'll wait and see :pray
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i stand to be corrected but I just couldnt see this prick being too interested in our club...I could be wrong , have been plenty of times this year...Id love it if he had an appetite to be involved but I'll wait and see :pray
That's one reason I'd want him. Brings no emotion, favourites or fears of the old boy network, coterie groups etc. No links because he has never hidden from the fact he has never respected us.
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Would be a good gamble IMO
viva Bucks
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Well if Bucks becomes coach it's goodbye Joel Bowden.
He was on 3aw before 2pm and was asked by a caller who was Joel fan about how can you get rid of Bowden when he's one of those who are the heart and soul of the club just like Richo. Bucks replied there's a generational change happening at Richmond which needs to happen and Joel wouldn't be part of the future so he wouldn't keep him.
Bucks also added Simmo, Petts and McMahon but added the condition you would have to know their individual contractual situations.
Of the over 30s, he would keep Cousins because last week he showed for the first time he was adjusting to the style of modern footy and he'll be of value for the next 18 months and also Richo if he comebacks fine from the current injury.
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Well if Bucks becomes coach it's goodbye Joel Bowden.
He was on 3aw before 2pm and was asked by a caller who was Joel fan about how can you get rid of Bowden when he's one of those who are the heart and soul of the club just like Richo. Bucks replied there's a generational change happening at Richmond which needs to happen and Joel wouldn't be part of the future so he wouldn't keep him.
Bucks also added Simmo, Petts and McMahon but added the condition you would have to know their individual contractual situations.
Of the over 30s, he would keep Cousins because last week he showed for the first time he was adjusting to the style of modern footy and he'll be of value for the next 18 months and also Richo if he comebacks fine from the current injury.
I believe this may be a change in Buckleys philosophy, for it was rumoured a while back that he would sack all 6 of the senior group ... keeping Richo and Cousins would put him on the same wavelength as the supporters and more importantly the administration at Punt Rd.
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i want buckley to coach us esp if we go for the young coach
buckley is a perfectionist and commands respect
the more i hear him speak the more i am impressed. and wouldnt it really pee of eddie and teh skunks if we found success with bucks lol
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i want buckley to coach us esp if we go for the young coach
buckley is a perfectionist and commands respect
the more i hear him speak the more i am impressed. and wouldnt it really pee of eddie and teh skunks if we found success with bucks lol
Maybe your right, he may well be just what we need. A coach that wont expect anything less than your absolute best, a coach that wont put up with anything less than perfection, a coach that deplores mediocrity........ yeh he sounds good, I'll let him come to Richmond.
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I believe this may be a change in Buckleys philosophy, for it was rumoured a while back that he would sack all 6 of the senior group ... keeping Richo and Cousins would put him on the same wavelength as the supporters and more importantly the administration at Punt Rd.
I thought it may have been Hardwick who's view it was to get rid of all 6 but forgetting about that
I agree Ramps - it seems Nathan may now be on the right page regarding our over 30's ;D
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i want buckley to coach us esp if we go for the young coach
buckley is a perfectionist and commands respect
the more i hear him speak the more i am impressed. and wouldnt it really pee of eddie and teh skunks if we found success with bucks lol
Maybe your right, he may well be just what we need. A coach that wont expect anything less than your absolute best, a coach that wont put up with anything less than perfection, a coach that deplores mediocrity........ yeh he sounds good, I'll let him come to Richmond.
We had a coach like that in 1982 & 83. One of the greats as a player. That unforgiving attitude seemed to upset some of the players going by them leaving.
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i want buckley to coach us esp if we go for the young coach
buckley is a perfectionist and commands respect
the more i hear him speak the more i am impressed. and wouldnt it really pee of eddie and teh skunks if we found success with bucks lol
Maybe your right, he may well be just what we need. A coach that wont expect anything less than your absolute best, a coach that wont put up with anything less than perfection, a coach that deplores mediocrity........ yeh he sounds good, I'll let him come to Richmond.
We had a coach like that in 1982 & 83. One of the greats as a player. That unforgiving attitude seemed to upset some of the players going by them leaving.
Sorry mate I disagree with you there. It was the love of money that lured those traitors out of Richmond and maybe some large egos that couldn't hack a former teamate demanding their respect and excellence.
Whats wrong with a coach demanding respect and excellence antway? We need it and I want to see it. A coach that only wants the best. Nothing wrong withthat. I couldnt see Buckley hanging on to players that cant or wont make it.
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As long as the Lions keep winning, the odds of Bux coaching gets better every day. How good do they look under Vossy.
With Tigers, Port, Pies or North all possibly looking for a coach id say he is a certainty at any one of the first 3. North can forget it. No $
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I think the best result for our club is if we got Buckley to coach us.
It by far would be the best result for our club.
As people have said, even if you don't like him, you respect him.
He is professional, intelligent, ruthless, a good communicator and best of all a great leader of men.
We should be selling our club to him over the next 11 weeks and with Jade playing the kids i hope he comes around. I only hope we can prove to hm we are worth the risk.
And also we need Collingwood to keep winning!
:gotigers
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Yes. Coaching gigs are as rare as hen's teeth.
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One's that are capable of feeding Nathan's ego are. For better or worse, ours is one of those.
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I personally don't like Bucks but it will would really be good to stick it up Collingwood.
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Bucks might have to pick from North, Richmond and Port.
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have said it before and will say it again, hasnt got the ballsto take on the richmond coaching job
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have said it before and will say it again, hasnt got the ballsto take on the richmond coaching job
total rubbish
buckley has the balls to coach us and the balls to get the best out of lids and demand more out of him, u r onv scared that deledio cannot handle a coach telling him exactly how it is
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I actually think there will be a lot of people putting their hand up for the job now that the media has made their kill and left the club alone. Perspective coaches, including Buckley, can now assess the list without all the media hype and based on the WC game, they would see we have the makings of a very good team.
Just need to add some more talent and get rid of some of the dead wood and we will be set for the future. Now what's the best way of getting good young players into the side.... :whistle
Stripes
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I would like Buckley, I think he has got what it takes.
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Now what's the best way of getting good young players into the side.... :whistle
Stripes
Picking them instead of the older players? ;D
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North putting $800k on the table for their new coach with Buckley their priority.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25647655-19742,00.html
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Don't think Buckley is worth that.... actually no coach is worth that
If Buckley is serious about coaching he will loook at all jobs available, if he isn't he will go to the job that best serves his purpose
I've said it before I doubt very much if he has the courage to take on the RFC and all that goes with it ;D
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North putting $800k on the table for their new coach with Buckley their priority.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25647655-19742,00.html
I bet Wallace will be up all night putting together a Powerpoint presentation for the Roos after seeing those dollars bandied around.
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Good to see the AFL's bailout money going to a good cause
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North putting $800k on the table for their new coach with Buckley their priority.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25647655-19742,00.html
I bet Wallace will be up all night putting together a Powerpoint presentation for the Roos after seeing those dollars bandied around.
:thatsgold :clapping
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if buckleys sole purpose is money theni dont want him at richmond
money should not be the reason , said it b4 will say it again , we need a coach that loves the club and respects the jumper, not the cash that comes with it
i really hope that twig kicks arse in the next 10 weeks . im hoping jade even thoiugh he is real young delivers because he is there for the right reasons
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I'm not convinced Buckley is the best candidate for the job. He is the most high profile applicant but this is more to do with his over rated playing capabilities at the most over exposed media friendly club in this city. Buckley may turn out to be a great coach but surely people such as Hardwick and Hinkley, who both have had very positive impacts on their clubs as assistant coaches already, should be considered first.
Often we gets fooled into believing the capabilities of someone as the opinions of a few become blow into the reality of many. The media have all convinced themselves who is the best coach in waiting but what are they using as evidence???
Forget the illusion, we need evidence and proof before we make our choice
Stripes
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I'm not convinced Buckley is the best candidate for the job. He is the most high profile applicant but this is more to do with his over rated playing capabilities at the most over exposed media friendly club in this city. Buckley may turn out to be a great coach but surely people such as Hardwick and Hinkley, who both have had very positive impacts on their clubs as assistant coaches already, should be considered first.
Often we gets fooled into believing the capabilities of someone as the opinions of a few become blow into the reality of many. The media have all convinced themselves who is the best coach in waiting but what are they using as evidence???
Forget the illusion, we need evidence and proof before we make our choice
Stripes
Evidence and proof?.... Are they not the same thing?.... Anyway
What sort of evidence and proof do we need Stripes?
Maybe we wait until he has coach a couple of premierships first then just ask him to come to Richmond. If you don't think he would be a good coach then i have overated your opinion on this forum.
As for what the media thinks, who cares! Although some have a pretty good understanding of the game of AFL.
As for Hardwick and Hinkley, both have been over looked in the past for senior coaching jobs so they might not be as good as some may think!
This club needs a TRUE leader and Nathan Buckley is that!
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I'm not convinced Buckley is the best candidate for the job. He is the most high profile applicant but this is more to do with his over rated playing capabilities at the most over exposed media friendly club in this city. Buckley may turn out to be a great coach but surely people such as Hardwick and Hinkley, who both have had very positive impacts on their clubs as assistant coaches already, should be considered first.
Often we gets fooled into believing the capabilities of someone as the opinions of a few become blow into the reality of many. The media have all convinced themselves who is the best coach in waiting but what are they using as evidence???
Forget the illusion, we need evidence and proof before we make our choice
Stripes
Evidence and proof?.... Are they not the same thing?.... Anyway
What sort of evidence and proof do we need Stripes?
Maybe we wait until he has coach a couple of premierships first then just ask him to come to Richmond. If you don't think he would be a good coach then i have overated your opinion on this forum.
As for what the media thinks, who cares! Although some have a pretty good understanding of the game of AFL.
As for Hardwick and Hinkley, both have been over looked in the past for senior coaching jobs so they might not be as good as some may think!
This club needs a TRUE leader and Nathan Buckley is that!
100% correct.
Although Hardwick to my knowledge was given the gig at the Bombers till he said he told the commitee they were 3-5 years away from a flag where as Knighter said they were 2 or so.
Would be stoked if we got him. IMO he and Bucks are the best going around
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Ch 10 news tonight are now talking $1m for Bucks :gobdrop
The Roos whinge about losing money playing at the Dome yet then come out with this rot despite being on the AFL drip feed ::). If any prospective coach comes to us wanting this ridiculous amount of dough then they can turn around and not waste our time. Only Malthouse would be paid that ($900k) and that's at Collingwood who have too much money for their own good.
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Tigers could afford him.
Whatever the price.
Difference between him and Wallace would be covered in a nano-second by new members.
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till he said he told the commitee they were 3-5 years away from a flag where as Knighter said they were 2 or so.
Urban myth.
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till he said he told the commitee they were 3-5 years away from a flag where as Knighter said they were 2 or so.
Urban myth.
i dont care what Myth it is, point is not to rule our Hardwick in the chase for anyone.
if thats true about bucks for 1 mill then he can go get stuffed.
i can just picture him sitting in his lounge room rubbing his hands together with his gold digger lady by his side
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This club needs a TRUE leader and Nathan Buckley is that!
Yeah but can he coach and is he the right fit for the RFC ? ;D
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i can just picture him sitting in his lounge room rubbing his hands together with his gold digger lady by his side
I'm told they speak well of you.
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This club needs a TRUE leader and Nathan Buckley is that!
Yeah but can he coach and is he the right fit for the RFC ? ;D
You seem to play devils advocate a little bit too much with Buckley WP, aside from the "process" being followed, sup with Bucks?
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You seem to play devils advocate a little bit too much with Buckley WP, aside from the "process" being followed, sup with Bucks?
I want this club to get this appointment right
Everyone seems to think it's a given he will be a great coach simply because his name is Buckley. I just don't think it is a given that's all
if he is the absolute right person for the job fantastic - give him the gig. I have no problem with it
But can we just make sure (by following the process) he is rather saying he the right person because of his name.
Nothing more nothing less
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You seem to play devils advocate a little bit too much with Buckley WP, aside from the "process" being followed, sup with Bucks?
I want this club to get this appointment right
Everyone seems to think it's a given he will be a great coach simply because his name is Buckley. I just don't think it is a given that's all
if he is the absolute right person for the job fantastic - give him the gig
But can we just make sure (by following the process) he is rather saying he the right person because of his name.
Nothing more nothing less
I dont think he is a given and I know what you are saying about the good old process, but I think a few people don't want to miss out on the best prospect coach either. I think rumour around the football community certainly from what I have seen and read is that Buckley is the best untried prospect going around. They said the same about Voss!!
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I dont think he is a given and I know what you are saying about the good old process, but I think a few people don't want to miss out on the best prospect coach either. I think rumour around the football community certainly from what I have seen and read is that Buckley is the best untried prospect going around. They said the same about Voss!!
But is he the best prospect and right fit for our club?
I dont want the "best untried prospect"
I want the absolute best person for our Club
There is a difference
And I don't want the club to put all their eggs in one basket.
IIRC we did that 5 years ago... and we all know how that turned out
Forgive me if I am a little cautious
People seem to think that if it isn't Buckley then we dont get the best person.
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You seem to play devils advocate a little bit too much with Buckley WP, aside from the "process" being followed, sup with Bucks?
I want this club to get this appointment right
Everyone seems to think it's a given he will be a great coach simply because his name is Buckley. I just don't think it is a given that's all
if he is the absolute right person for the job fantastic - give him the gig. I have no problem with it
But can we just make sure (by following the process) he is rather saying he the right person because of his name.
Nothing more nothing less
spot on.
buvkley is not voss
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spot on.
buvkley is not voss
And you know this how??? Why couldn't he turn out a better coach???
edited to correct quote
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spot on.
buckley is not voss
No, but neither was Voss until the hindsight stick whacked us all. We can follow the process all we want (of which I am a believer by the way) but at the end of the day the person we choose is still an unknown, be it a Malthouse or a Hardwick. When we make the decision all the insecurities of getting it wrong for the last 20 years will be at the forefront of every Richmond person's mind - supporter, player, board member, volunteer and employee alike. That's the time to suck it up and support. Regardless.
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There is only one person I would not like to see in the seat, but if he gets the gig I will support him too, just like I have the past coaches.
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I dont think he is a given and I know what you are saying about the good old process, but I think a few people don't want to miss out on the best prospect coach either. I think rumour around the football community certainly from what I have seen and read is that Buckley is the best untried prospect going around. They said the same about Voss!!
But is he the best prospect and right fit for our club?
I dont want the "best untried prospect"
I want the absolute best person for our Club
There is a difference
And I don't want the club to put all their eggs in one basket.
IIRC we did that 5 years ago... and we all know how that turned out
Forgive me if I am a little cautious
People seem to think that if it isn't Buckley then we dont get the best person.
i actually agree with you for once.
if its buckley so be it but i cant believe people forget or rule out Hinkley and/or Hardwick
They are proven assistant coaches
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i actually agree with you for once.
Don't make a habit of it ;D :thumbsup :rollin
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till he said he told the commitee they were 3-5 years away from a flag where as Knighter said they were 2 or so.
Urban myth.
i dont care what Myth it is, point is not to rule our Hardwick in the chase for anyone.
if thats true about bucks for 1 mill then he can go get stuffed.
i can just picture him sitting in his lounge room rubbing his hands together with his gold digger lady by his side
bucks wife is no gold digger, she comes from a very wealthy italian family, she was loaded b4 she even met bucks
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You seem to play devils advocate a little bit too much with Buckley WP, aside from the "process" being followed, sup with Bucks?
I want this club to get this appointment right
Everyone seems to think it's a given he will be a great coach simply because his name is Buckley. I just don't think it is a given that's all
if he is the absolute right person for the job fantastic - give him the gig. I have no problem with it
But can we just make sure (by following the process) he is rather saying he the right person because of his name.
Nothing more nothing less
spot on.
buvkley is not voss
correct
buckley is better and smarter
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Richmond will sound out Bucks next month.
What North plan to offer Buckley according to Denham in the Australian.....
A three or four-year contract worth more than $500,000 a year, but will be given certain assurances to enhance the deal.
Football department spending will be increased substantially, including an increase in total player payments, which are due to rise from their current level of about 93 per cent to 95 per cent next year.
Not only will Buckley have a choice of some of his own staff, but the Kangaroos are also likely to seek an early retirement from the board of former club administrator Ron Joseph, who is viewed as a destabilising director and someone who could influence a decision by Buckley not to join.
North Melbourne chief executive Eugene Arocca said yesterday that football department spending would be increased to more than $14 million next year.
North Melbourne is also confident that Buckley will satisfy a crucial requirement for the next coach to be able to sell the club off the field by satisfying sponsors and increasing membership to record levels, something that led to Laidley's downfall.
A likely member of the coaching sub-committee, which will be announced following next week's board meeting, told The Australian yesterday that if Buckley accepted the challenge to take over North Melbourne, the club could expect the immediate impact of more than 5000 additional members in 2010.
"A steep rise in membership next year at the very least would be one spin-off if 'Bucks' comes on board, and we would also expect more corporate sponsors to join us," the Roos source said.
North Melbourne has already given its tick of approval to Buckley.
What is also expected to attract Buckley is the club's new $15.1m training and administration facility at Arden Street, which is scheduled to be ready by October this year and ready for pre-season training.
Buckley will also be sounded out by Richmond next month, but yesterday the Kangaroos remained confident that its administration and playing list were superior to the Tigers list.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25652188-5012432,00.html
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Looks as though the Kangaroos are putting all there eggs in the one basket trying to get Buckley.
Dangerous territory, particularly if it doesn't come off....
Thought Longmire may have been a big chance ??
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if the coach is only there to boost their own career how will they inspire teamwork and unselfish play in the side?
i'd hope whoever we get has at least some degree of passion for the club.
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doubt it will happen , but I hope they get him.
It will be a marketing appointment, and we all know how dangerous they are
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if the coach is only there to boost their own career how will they inspire teamwork and unselfish play in the side?
i'd hope whoever we get has at least some degree of passion for the club.
spot on
seems the rumours weeksa ago on bigfooty were correct that bucks will coach th e roos as he and arocca are real close
its a worry that the roos are not exploring all avenues
i would love buckley to coach us , but not if its purely for money but for passion
if bucks is just after the money good luck to him, he will just turn out to be another wallet, just an albino one lol
imo rawlings has a real passion for the role and the young list, and campbell has a real pasion for the club
either one of these two will do for me
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if the coach is only there to boost their own career how will they inspire teamwork and unselfish play in the side?
i'd hope whoever we get has at least some degree of passion for the club.
spot on
seems the rumours weeksa ago on bigfooty were correct that bucks will coach th e roos as he and arocca are real close
its a worry that the roos are not exploring all avenues
i would love buckley to coach us , but not if its purely for money but for passion
if bucks is just after the money good luck to him, he will just turn out to be another wallet, just an albino one lol
imo rawlings has a real passion for the role and the young list, and campbell has a real pasion for the club
either one of these two will do for me
you are very easily pleased.
But racists usually are ;)
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if the coach is only there to boost their own career how will they inspire teamwork and unselfish play in the side?
i'd hope whoever we get has at least some degree of passion for the club.
spot on
seems the rumours weeksa ago on bigfooty were correct that bucks will coach th e roos as he and arocca are real close
its a worry that the roos are not exploring all avenues
i would love buckley to coach us , but not if its purely for money but for passion
if bucks is just after the money good luck to him, he will just turn out to be another wallet, just an albino one lol
imo rawlings has a real passion for the role and the young list, and campbell has a real pasion for the club
either one of these two will do for me
you are very easily pleased.
But racists usually are ;)
u c. u dont know me at all, and those that do know im not racist at all
now ur post reflects ur intelligence as it has nothing to do with the topic, so w will stoop to ur level
no im not racist and am not easily pleased. unlike u where any kok in mouth will do
u see. im not racist, just hate limp like u. a nd im not homophobic, phobias r fears, i dont fear limp, i just dont likr them
so go get ur deledio blow up doll and back to bed 4 you
limp/blaisees r easily pleased
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Or to summarise that rant
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fart006.gif)
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:banghead :banghead
Again stick to the topic and not the cheap and pathetic personal insults and sniping
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I come to this site to read about RFC...off field and on.
I do not come to read personal insults between site members.
Can the moderators/administrators please get tougher and start removing posts like some of the offensive ones above. Surely it cannot be in this websites rules to allow posts like that to remain...
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What sort of evidence and proof do we need Stripes?
Maybe we wait until he has coach a couple of premierships first then just ask him to come to Richmond. If you don't think he would be a good coach then i have overated your opinion on this forum.
As for what the media thinks, who cares! Although some have a pretty good understanding of the game of AFL.
As for Hardwick and Hinkley, both have been over looked in the past for senior coaching jobs so they might not be as good as some may think!
This club needs a TRUE leader and Nathan Buckley is that!
Your first mistake bigtone was to rate my opinion at all. Your second was to misinterupt my post.
I think Buckley will make a very good coach but I'm still not sold he is the best man for our club just because he was a great Collingwood player who has a high media profile. The media have far too much influence for my liking on football and especially coaches. TW was forced to resign and Laidely jumped before the same circus could happen to him. Just rediculous.
From the little I know of Bucks, he seems to have the leadership qualities and no-nonsense attitude that we need at the club but the fact remains that he hasn't coached. Everyone points to Voss as an example of a person with no coaching experience coming straight in and making a impact but there are many differences between the two. Voss is using his relationship with his senior players to create a unified on and off field force. He holds is held in awe at Brisbane and has the utmost repect of his peers. Buckley at Tigerland has neither.
I want to find the best coach for our side and not the coach that the media think everyone should have. If Bucks is it then fine but if Hardwick or Hinkley pick up the position then I will be equally happy.
Regardless of their media profile before they got the Tigers job, the Richmond coach is always in the news! :whistle I just hope it is for the right reasons this time and not just because they are media savvy or have failed.
Stripes
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What sort of evidence and proof do we need Stripes?
Maybe we wait until he has coach a couple of premierships first then just ask him to come to Richmond. If you don't think he would be a good coach then i have overated your opinion on this forum.
As for what the media thinks, who cares! Although some have a pretty good understanding of the game of AFL.
As for Hardwick and Hinkley, both have been over looked in the past for senior coaching jobs so they might not be as good as some may think!
This club needs a TRUE leader and Nathan Buckley is that!
Your first mistake bigtone was to rate my opinion at all. Your second was to misinterupt my post.
I think Buckley will make a very good coach but I'm still not sold he is the best man for our club just because he was a great Collingwood player who has a high media profile. The media have far too much influence for my liking on football and especially coaches. TW was forced to resign and Laidely jumped before the same circus could happen to him. Just rediculous.
From the little I know of Bucks, he seems to have the leadership qualities and no-nonsense attitude that we need at the club but the fact remains that he hasn't coached. Everyone points to Voss as an example of a person with no coaching experience coming straight in and making a impact but there are many differences between the two. Voss is using his relationship with his senior players to create a unified on and off field force. He holds is held in awe at Brisbane and has the utmost repect of his peers. Buckley at Tigerland has neither.
I want to find the best coach for our side and not the coach that the media think everyone should have. If Bucks is it then fine but if Hardwick or Hinkley pick up the position then I will be equally happy.
Regardless of their media profile before they got the Tigers job, the Richmond coach is always in the news! :whistle I just hope it is for the right reasons this time and not just because they are media savvy or have failed.
Stripes
So what did i misinterupt?
You said you wanted evidence and proof, what does that really mean Stripes? Is that just something that you thought sounded good?
Also Bucks was more than just a great Collingwood player, he more importantly was a fantastic leader of that club that got them to 2 grand finals with imo an good/average list. So lets not let facts stand in the way of your debate.
And for the record, i was only being nice when i said i respected your opinion. :lol
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I come to this site to read about RFC...off field and on.
I do not come to read personal insults between site members.
Can the moderators/administrators please get tougher and start removing posts like some of the offensive ones above. Surely it cannot be in this websites rules to allow posts like that to remain...
Here. Here.
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I come to this site to read about RFC...off field and on.
I do not come to read personal insults between site members.
Can the moderators/administrators please get tougher and start removing posts like some of the offensive ones above. Surely it cannot be in this websites rules to allow posts like that to remain...
Here. Here.
+1
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At the end of the day, Buckley hasn't won anything
He certainly sounds impressive when you hear him, but how would he know what it takes to win a flag
He left the most successful club in recent history to go to the club that's one one flag in what 80 years?
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At the end of the day, Buckley hasn't won anything
He certainly sounds impressive when you hear him, but how would he know what it takes to win a flag
He left the most successful club in recent history to go to the club that's one one flag in what 80 years?
I agree in a way but who could have predicted the success the lions /bears would have when Buckley left them? The fact that Collingwood made two gfs would have taught him what it takes to win a flag because collingwood were exposed for it (Davis and then R.Shaw, Roccas missed goal that wasnt and suspensions to key forwards/backs). He also won a Norm smith
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So what did i misinterupt?
You said you wanted evidence and proof, what does that really mean Stripes? Is that just something that you thought sounded good?
Also Bucks was more than just a great Collingwood player, he more importantly was a fantastic leader of that club that got them to 2 grand finals with imo an good/average list. So lets not let facts stand in the way of your debate.
And for the record, i was only being nice when i said i respected your opinion. :lol
Evidence and proof, proof and evidence....it does sound good doesn't it ;)
big tone, it sounds like your firing up over this. I'm not trting to upset you mate and as I have already said I think Buckley will more than likely make a very good coach. I want wants best for the Richmond Football Club and not what outside sources say is best for us.
What my whole argument is big tone, is that lets cut through the hype, look far and wide and make sure we do everything we can to get the right fit for our list and club.
Sorry you don't respect my opinion but that won't stop be respecting yours. :cheers
Stripes
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At the end of the day, Buckley hasn't won anything
He certainly sounds impressive when you hear him, but how would he know what it takes to win a flag
He left the most successful club in recent history to go to the club that's one one flag in what 80 years?
HAHA how true. 3 flags later
i bet deep down that kills him hence why IMO he really wants to make it as a successful coach.
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I come to this site to read about RFC...off field and on.
I do not come to read personal insults between site members.
Can the moderators/administrators please get tougher and start removing posts like some of the offensive ones above. Surely it cannot be in this websites rules to allow posts like that to remain...
Change forums, this one does not resemble NAZI Germany.
(No names mentioned :lol )
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At the end of the day, Buckley hasn't won anything
He certainly sounds impressive when you hear him, but how would he know what it takes to win a flag
He left the most successful club in recent history to go to the club that's one one flag in what 80 years?
HAHA how true. 3 flags later
i bet deep down that kills him hence why IMO he really wants to make it as a successful coach.
maybe he is jinxed
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So what did i misinterupt?
You said you wanted evidence and proof, what does that really mean Stripes? Is that just something that you thought sounded good?
Also Bucks was more than just a great Collingwood player, he more importantly was a fantastic leader of that club that got them to 2 grand finals with imo an good/average list. So lets not let facts stand in the way of your debate.
And for the record, i was only being nice when i said i respected your opinion. :lol
Evidence and proof, proof and evidence....it does sound doesn't ;)
big tone, it sounds like your firing up over this. I'm not trting to upset you mate and as I have already said I think Buckley will more than likely make a very good coach. I want wants best for the Richmond Football Club and not what outside sources say is best for us.
What my whole argument is big tone, is that lets cut through the hype, look far and wide and make sure we do everything we can to get the right fit for our list and club.
Sorry you don't respect my opinion but that won't stop be respecting yours. :cheers
Stripes
Not firing up mate, too numb this year to fire up about anything to do with our club- thats sounds really bad but it's the most disappointed i have been with the RFC. I must admit, i don't even want us to win any more games this year. I only hope, like you, that they make the right decision regarding the coach.
You never answered my question though, what proof would you like? :thumbsup
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Well North (via Brayshaw) have already spoken to Buckley's manager Craig Kelly. They've also spoken to Longmire's manager and others but Buckley is top of their list according to Brayshaw.
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Well North (via Brayshaw) have already spoken to Buckley's manager Craig Kelly. They've also spoken to Longmire's manager and others but Buckley is top of their list according to Brayshaw.
Who says the Tigers haven't?
Just because we aren't conducting our search for a coach via the media doens't we have made phone calls ;D
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where's the hardwick thread. still think hes a better option
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You never answered my question though, what proof would you like? :thumbsup
Do you mean regarding Buckley? The fact that there is little actual evidence (read first hand observable knowledge of his coaching capabilities in developing players, using tactics and changing them during a game, working under pressure, man managing etc etc) that he has been, and therefore will make a great coach. Any judgement that is made on Buckley has to be made using only the proof you have in front of you which is little to do with how he has coached but more to do with his personality traits and leadership qualities.
With other potential young candidates including Hardwick and Hinkly we have observable evidence of their coaching skills and ability. We may still not know definatively how they will perform as head coach but we have a much better idea of their style, coaching strengths, the way they handle pressure, etc
This is why it remains a big risk to get Buckley, despite his obvious strengths, because it is more unknowns to future with him as coach. We could get a Voss or we could get a Watson.
With Bucks clubs are hoping his leadership qualities, media understanding and impressive knowledge translates into great coaching ability but their is far more unknowns with him than some other potential possibilities.
This is what I mean by proof. :thumbsup
Stripes
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tom hafey as a player never found success , he wasnt even that good of a player
but the best coach we ever had
so all those who say buckley hasnt won a thing yet, so what
he is an elite player and has won respect
in saying that i only want him as coach only if he comes for the right reasons
we must show " due diligence :lol "
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tom hafey as a player never found success , he wasnt even that good of a player
but the best coach we ever had
so all those who say buckley hasnt won a thing yet, so what
he is an elite player and has won respect
in saying that i only want him as coach only if he comes for the right reasons
we must show " due diligence :lol "
Did you see him play TT?
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did u?
hafey himself has even admitted he wasnt much of a player, though he was a fitness freak
why not ask him yourself
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did u?
hafey himself has even admitted he wasnt much of a player, though he was a fitness freak
why not ask him yourself
I saw him play around 30 of his games - He is of the kind that does not blow thier own trumpet
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You never answered my question though, what proof would you like? :thumbsup
Do you mean regarding Buckley? The fact that there is little actual evidence (read first hand observable knowledge of his coaching capabilities in developing players, using tactics and changing them during a game, working under pressure, man managing etc etc) that he has been, and therefore will make a great coach. Any judgement that is made on Buckley has to be made using only the proof you have in front of you which is little to do with how he has coached but more to do with his personality traits and leadership qualities.
With other potential young candidates including Hardwick and Hinkly we have observable evidence of their coaching skills and ability. We may still not know definatively how they will perform as head coach but we have a much better idea of their style, coaching strengths, the way they handle pressure, etc
This is why it remains a big risk to get Buckley, despite his obvious strengths, because it is more unknowns to future with him as coach. We could get a Voss or we could get a Watson.
With Bucks clubs are hoping his leadership qualities, media understanding and impressive knowledge translates into great coaching ability but their is far more unknowns with him than some other potential possibilities.
This is what I mean by proof. :thumbsup
Stripes
The simple fact is the only way we can get proof on Buck's coaching is if we see him coach. And the only way to do that is to let him go coach somewhere else. Do you really want to miss this boat Stripes?
Sure Bucks is a rick but so is everybody. But ill bet my mother that he will be a success.
And ill also bet he will have whatever side he takes on into the finals inside two years.
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tom hafey as a player never found success , he wasnt even that good of a player
but the best coach we ever had
so all those who say buckley hasnt won a thing yet, so what
he is an elite player and has won respect
in saying that i only want him as coach only if he comes for the right reasons
we must show " due diligence :lol "
Which means he must have had some success as a coach at some level prior to taking over Richmond. How else would he have got the job? It's ridiculous to rule out any coach who never won a flag as a player, but it would be nice to know that they coached their own side to one at a lower level or as an assistant at the elite level before they took over as senior coach of an AFL side.
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Which means he must have had some success as a coach at some level prior to taking over Richmond. How else would he have got the job? It's ridiculous to rule out any coach who never won a flag as a player, but it would be nice to know that they coached their own side to one at a lower level or as an assistant at the elite level before they took over as senior coach of an AFL side.
Tom Hafey sure did. Coached Shepparton to 3 flags in the Goulburn Valley League before coming back down to Richmond.
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Which means he must have had some success as a coach at some level prior to taking over Richmond. How else would he have got the job? It's ridiculous to rule out any coach who never won a flag as a player, but it would be nice to know that they coached their own side to one at a lower level or as an assistant at the elite level before they took over as senior coach of an AFL side.
Tom Hafey sure did. Coached Shepparton to 3 flags in the Goulburn Valley League before coming back down to Richmond.
Exactly, proved he could coach his own side and was very successful in doing so. Granted the talent difference between the leagues wasn't the chasm it is now, however it's form you can't ignore.
I'm fairly certain that Ken Hinkley is the only favoured candidate at the moment that has coached his own side at a lower level and from memory he's won premiership(s) doing so as well. He's also an assistant coach in an AFL premiership side (could be dual premierships), he is their "attacking coach" who formulates their offensive strategy, which is the best in the comp.
I would hardly say Hinkley was a brilliant player, he was a member of three losing grand finals sides but he was no star, however he's would be the highest credentialled untried coach in the running, form not too different to Hafey back in the day really.
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Which means he must have had some success as a coach at some level prior to taking over Richmond. How else would he have got the job? It's ridiculous to rule out any coach who never won a flag as a player, but it would be nice to know that they coached their own side to one at a lower level or as an assistant at the elite level before they took over as senior coach of an AFL side.
Tom Hafey sure did. Coached Shepparton to 3 flags in the Goulburn Valley League before coming back down to Richmond.
Exactly, proved he could coach his own side and was very successful in doing so. Granted the talent difference between the leagues wasn't the chasm it is now, however it's form you can't ignore.
I'm fairly certain that Ken Hinkley is the only favoured candidate at the moment that has coached his own side at a lower level and from memory he's won premiership(s) doing so as well. He's also an assistant coach in an AFL premiership side (could be dual premierships), he is their "attacking coach" who formulates their offensive strategy, which is the best in the comp.
I would hardly say Hinkley was a brilliant player, he was a member of three losing grand finals sides but he was no star, however he's would be the highest credentialled untried coach in the running, form not too different to Hafey back in the day really.
Ken Hinkleys career highlights
1992 Carji Greeves medal (Geelong Football Club)
1995 Geelong Football Club co-captain
1991-92 All Australian
1992 third in Brownlow Medal
Member of Geelong Hall of Fame
Coaching Premierships
1999 Hampden Football League
2000 Hampden Football League
2003 Geelong Football League
2006 NAB Cup
Not a bad record
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Someone was on SEN suggesting Hird was the coach for us next year - stranger things come true LOL but i would belive that one
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Robbo on Ch 7 tonight reckons Buckley will decide to take on the challenge to coach Richmond.
Bucks will be interviewed on Ch 7's Gameday on Sunday morning at 10am.
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Robbo on Ch 7 tonight reckons Buckley will decide to take on the challenge to coach Richmond.
Bucks will be interviewed on Ch 7's Gameday on Sunday morning at 10am.
Arghhhhhhhh Robbo bold prediction that ...... one small condition of course is Buckley has to be offered the job first ;D and I reckon Robbo is wrong (wouldn't be the first time) :rollin
Can hardly wait for the interview .... not doubt it will tell us ..............................NOTHING ;D
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for me its really down to:
tried coaches- malthouse
untried coaches- hardwick, hinkley, hird and buckley
I reckon its out of those 5]
with James Hird the massive outsider who could surprise and come in massively odds wise if he shows any interest at all.
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for me its really down to:
tried coaches- malthouse
untried coaches- hardwick, hinkley, hird and buckley
I reckon its out of those 5]
with James Hird the massive outsider who could surprise and come in massively odds wise if he shows any interest at all.
I don't think Hird is in the mix at all
I would throw Leon Cameron, Campbell & Rawlings into the untried mix myself
I really do wonder where Hinkley sits in the mix too - he is a bit like the invisible man ;D
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i was told hinkley is now out of contention
btw
leon cameron wont get the job, would rather keep jade on
imo we will get a young coach and hardwick wont be it either
i believe its gonna be out of buckley, campbell, rawlings and hird if he throws his hat in the ring
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Hird is the clear outsider but the odds will come in massively if he throws hes hat into the ring. Up till now Ive been a supporter of bringing in a coach perceived as being abit fire and brimstone ... but the reality is that our players are mentally soft and not outwardly outgoing ... that being the case, does an aggressive coach get the best out of that playing group ... james hird comes across as mild mannered, but you dont achieve the things in footy that he had by being a fruit cake or a softie ... so maybe he has the right balance of all the things necessary to being a Richmond coach in 2010 and beyond.
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I think Hird as coach would be a failure of Tim Watson proportions
Has been in the business world since retiring, at least Buckley is coaching kids at the AIS
Don't see him having the fire in the belly for it
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Not sure about Buckley. Great player, but I remember 2003 when the pies beat Brisbane in the Qualifying final and then looked to be the favourites in the GF. Bucks seemed to become a different beast, becoming terse and stony faced in GF week to the point of extreme. Still remember the look on his face when he leds them up the race that day. Rocca out didn't help them, and Bucks had a decent game but the team were nervous as anything.
Then again he was BoG in 2002. Maybe I just hate Collingwood.
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Don't see him having the fire in the belly for it
If he wants to do it (I doubt it) I can assure you one thing Hird won't lack is desire to be a success.
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Not sure about Buckley. Great player, but I remember 2003 when the pies beat Brisbane in the Qualifying final and then looked to be the favourites in the GF. Bucks seemed to become a different beast, becoming terse and stony faced in GF week to the point of extreme. Still remember the look on his face when he leds them up the race that day. Rocca out didn't help them, and Bucks had a decent game but the team were nervous as anything.
Then again he was BoG in 2002. Maybe I just hate Collingwood.
Could you imagine THE LOOK ON PIES FACES if we get Bux and he delivers us a flag
Geez it would be stuffin PRICELESS.
edit: don't avoid the swear fitler!
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i was told hinkley is now out of contention
Not according to Hinkley's interview in today's AFL website.
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If Buckley is the Best candidate then we should get him.... WE need someone who is no nonsense and someone who demands the best from everyone, someone who wont except mediocrity..... here I go again.
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Not sure about Buckley. Great player, but I remember 2003 when the pies beat Brisbane in the Qualifying final and then looked to be the favourites in the GF. Bucks seemed to become a different beast, becoming terse and stony faced in GF week to the point of extreme. Still remember the look on his face when he leds them up the race that day. Rocca out didn't help them, and Bucks had a decent game but the team were nervous as anything.
Then again he was BoG in 2002. Maybe I just hate Collingwood.
Could you imagine THE LOOK ON PIES FACES if we get Bux and he delivers us a flag
Geez it would be stuffin PRICELESS.
hahaha yes i can( :-[)
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i was told hinkley is now out of contention
Not according to Hinkley's interview in today's AFL website.
thats good then, we must seriously look at all prospects
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Don't see him having the fire in the belly for it
If he wants to do it (I doubt it) I can assure you one thing Hird won't lack is desire to be a success.
I think he should get some coaching experience first but Hird wouldn't mind going to a club where Sheeds is at either.
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Pie great says it's too early to tell
Andrea Petrie | June 22, 2009
DEAN Laidley's decision to leave North Melbourne would have no bearing on which club coach-in-waiting Nathan Buckley took over next year, the former Collingwood captain said yesterday.
Speaking from the US where he is on an AFL study tour, Buckley said it was too early to say whether he would be coaching any club in 2010.
Buckley, currently in the United States furthering his coaching education with college football giant Notre Dame, said it was up to North and Richmond to drive their search, and that nothing had changed for him.
"There's been a bit going on that I've heard from back home," he told Seven.
"But really I'm not focused on that at the moment.
"With the Richmond opportunity coming up and now North, there's been a lot of speculation around it but really that's a process that the clubs will drive.
"I'm not the only candidate, there's plenty of guys who will be looking at both roles.
"Most of this landscape won't come to bear until the end of the season, so I'm just going about the process of trying to improve myself as a football quality and finding out about where I might fit in best."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/pie-great-says-its-too-early-to-tell/2009/06/21/1245522734336.html
http://news.realfooty.com.au/breaking-news-sport/matthews-sees-promise-in-richmonds-list-20090621-csnd.html
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Notre Dame??
What exactly has Buckley done to be getting such high praise?
He never played in a premiership and has achieved nothing as an assistant coach in the AFL.
It's a big punt and I think that there are about 3/4 better qualified candidates ahead of him for a senior position.
It's a risk I wouldn't take unless others pull out and he's remaining.
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Bucks message to Roos, Tigers: let's talk
Jon Ralph | June 26, 2009
COLLINGWOOD legend Nathan Buckley returned to Australia yesterday and confirmed his interest in discussing with Richmond and North Melbourne their vacant coaching positions.
Buckley said last night he was keen to talk about the senior roles at both clubs, after spending 10 days on an AFL-funded study trip in the US.
The league's hottest coaching prospect declared that Richmond had "better young talent on exposed form" than North Melbourne.
But as North officially began its search for a new coach yesterday, Buckley also threw up the possibility of spending a season as an assistant.
While the former Magpies captain was coy on his prospects, the race for Buckley has become white hot.
"It is basically status quo apart from the fact that North Melbourne is looking for a coach next year," he said.
"They will go through a process that they allocate and I would like to have a chat to them and find out where they are situated . . . (and) with respect to assistant coaching roles down the track as well."
His reference to becoming an assistant in yesterday's interview with employer Channel 7 was cryptic, given the available senior jobs.
The Roos have made it known their priority is to secure Buckley as their head coach for next year.
While North would be unlikely to outlay $800,000 on a rookie coach such as Buckley, it is prepared to spend up to that figure for an experienced senior coach.
If Buckley was to spend a year as an assistant, it would again raise speculation about a succession plan for Mick Malthouse at Collingwood.
In a separate Adelaide radio interview yesterday, Buckley said he was prepared to talk to Richmond.
"I don't know what next year is going to look like for me," he said. "(Richmond and North Melbourne) are categorically the only two coaching roles currently available.
"If I am serious about looking at coaching next year or getting into an AFL club, I suppose I'd better have a look at them.
"I'm looking forward to having an opportunity to talk to both of those clubs when their processes are up and running. I need to find out some information to know where I sit."
While Buckley has also been linked to Port Adelaide, with which he played in the SANFL, it is believed Mark Williams' odds of a contract extension are shortening.
Reports from Adelaide have the Port board voting 6-2 in favour of keeping Williams.
Buckley dodged a question about his interest in Port. "They are my old club . . . but I played for Brisbane as well," he said.
Buckley was keen yesterday to emphasise he was not yet sold on launching his senior coaching career immediately.
"As I have said all along, there will be assistant coaching roles as well," he said.
"I need to have to look at what opportunities are there and then clubs will have to look at me and then I will have to look at the strength and weaknesses and what is the best fit."
North has already sounded out the availability of a range of potential coaches, including Buckley and Sydney assistant and former North star John Longmire.
Chief executive Eugene Arocca and football manager Donald McDonald are formulating an appropriate process to find a new coach, according to the club.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25691305-19742,00.html
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personally not sold on Buckley, am glad the club will follow the process through and not
be rushed because of North joining the queue looking for a new coach.
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A positive for us if he believes our youngsters are better but Bucks has to show 100% interest and commitment if he wants the job. Going through the interview process to test the water won't get him a senior coaching job.
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I said I could live with Bucks Fizz and he could be a handy pickup - But GEE WIZZ
the media are blowing the wind so far up his ! it is not funny.
If north want to fork out 800 K a year let them do it - Will definately see them on the scrapheap forking out that money in the not to distant future.
If we are gunna pay big $$$ you need someone proven (Micky Malthouse) at least.
Any newbies can start a bit lower down until they show their worth.
Maybe a Mick Malthouse & Bucks assitant package for 800K could be a go ?
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If we were going to spend 800k ... id rather see RFC spend 350-400k on Hardwick and spend the other 400k putting on a couple of extra development coaches etc.
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thats a better option l rekon :thumbsup
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Nathan Buckley puts his hand up to coach
Glenn McFarlane | June 28, 2009
NATHAN Buckley had his first audition for the Richmond coaching position yesterday under the watchful eye of Tigers president Gary March.
And if March was interested to find out whether the AFL's hottest coach-in-waiting could handle a young playing group, Buckley got a resounding tick.
As part of a successful Channel Seven community initiative, Buckley coached a team of South Melbourne District Auskick kids against a side tutored by four-time premiership coach Leigh Matthews.
"Buckley's Brigade" started slowly, but stormed home to be in a draw with "Lethal's Lot", which remarkably happens in every Auskick match.
But March was impressed with the way in which the former Collingwood great handled the role, joking that he had a contract ready and waiting in his back pocket.
"It's good to see Bucks in action. He will certainly be in the mix," said March, who coaches a junior team at the club.
Buckley, who last week declared his interest in a coaching role next year, joked that "Gary was in my ear, but all I was trying to focus on was the game and the kids".
He told Channel Seven: "It's fantastic to rub shoulders with the kids and see them run around and have fun.
"We ran over the top of them at the end. It was a draw, but I think they were trying to make the other team feel good."
Channel Seven is looking to make the community day an annual event after its successful debut yesterday.
The network had its entire football commentary team and many of its production staff at Albert Park for the morning.
Bruce McAvaney and Dennis Cometti called the game in typically informative and amusing fashion.
The teams' runners were David Schwarz and Rick Olarenshaw, while Hamish McIntosh umpired.
Six children from Thursday Island also made the trip to be a part of the action yesterday, as part of an exchange program with the club, and impressed with their efforts.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25702045-5016169,00.html
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Nathan Buckley holds all the coaching aces
Damian Barrett | July 07, 2009 11:45pm
NATHAN Buckley made it two from two as a coach yesterday. His Victorian Country under-16 team's stylish win against Western Australia, followed a big victory over Victorian Metro on Saturday.
Buckley and Vic Country could clean-sweep the national titles in Sydney against the also unbeaten South Australia on Friday.
The competition may be small-fry to many in football, but to Buckley, it is a cherished commitment, one that has put the pause button on the movement of senior officials at at least a couple of AFL clubs.
Buckley, via his manager Craig Kelly, made it clear to North Melbourne and Richmond officials that he would not speak to them about their coaching positions until after his under-16 commitments.
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When he sits down with Kelly at the weekend or early next week, he will be told he is wanted for those chats as soon as possible.
North is so keen for that talk that will not form a coaching sub-committee until Buckley personally answers its question: "Are you interested in coaching us next year?"
Chief executive Eugene Arocca and football boss Donald McDonald are saying little about the the club's coaching plans post Dean Laidley, but in simple terms it would read: Exhaust all options on Buckley before contemplating anyone else.
Richmond, too, is keen to explore the Buckley option.
But unlike North, the Tigers wants all coaching candidates go through the same process.
As it stands, 15 men, including Kevin Sheedy, will be given the chance to press for the Tigers job.
Led by football department chief Craig Cameron, Richmond will insist all candidate, including Sheedy, to bypass any aspect of recently established exhaustive process.
Despite some outside ridicule at that process, the club is comfortable with how its coach search will play out, that if the workload and requirements attached to the criteria means that North strikes first with Buckley, or someone else, then so be it.
It is a commendable outlook from the Tigers, who decided on the rigorous search after smarting, in hindsight, on the two-man project -- of Clinton Casey and Greg Miller -- that led to Terry Wallace signing for five years without board consultation.
It is still highly possible that there will be a third senior AFL job open to Buckley, with Mark Williams a long way from agreeing to restrictive terms with Port Adelaide.
But, even if the Power position opened up, it would be a poor third option for Buckley.
Those close to him say his family and private life would not be best suited being based in Adelaide.
Buckley has the luxury of controlling what happens with North and Richmond and, to a lesser extent, at Port.
He may choose to bypass all senior offers and work in the AFL system as an assistant coach, maybe at Collingwood under Mick Malthouse, but much juggling on a number of fronts would be required for that to happen.
Things will ramp up with Buckley next week when, free of the under-16 commitments, he will be in the position to book in chats with North and Richmond officials.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25749309-19742,00.html
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Damian Barrett | July 07, 2009 11:45pm
It is a commendable outlook from the Tigers, who decided on the rigorous search after smarting, in hindsight, on the two-man project -- of Clinton Casey and Greg Miller -- that led to Terry Wallace signing for five years without board consultation.
Nah it can't be. That can't be a compliment towards the RFC from you know who.
Who's kidnapped the real Barrett! :lol
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Nah MT , He's just lulling us into a false sense of stupidity. ;D
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3aw today with Cometti, Mike and Shaw were walking about where Bucks should coach (Bucks was in the commentary box as well) and Shaw goes to Bucks "Don't go to either Richmond or North. There's nothing there ::). Go to the Gold Coast"
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Well IMO after the Collingwood win last night Malthouse will not leave or be pushed from the Pies regardless of the finals outcome. By doing this Eddie everyware will not be able to fullfill his dream (wet) of getting Buckley to coach the Pies.
IMO Buckley will never end up coaching at the club he played for, he will no doubt go to either the Kangaroos or Richmond, there is no way both Buckley and Malthouse can survive at Collingwood together.
Malthouse has at least another 3-5 years there and Buckley won't wait that long, Richmond is too good a carrot for him to pass up should he be offered the job.
Wrong place worng time for the Pies to have their fairytail......... and about time.
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Well IMO after the Collingwood win last night Malthouse will not leave or be pushed from the Pies regardless of the finals outcome. By doing this Eddie everyware will not be able to fullfill his dream (wet) of getting Buckley to coach the Pies.
IMO Buckley will never end up coaching at the club he played for, he will no doubt go to either the Kangaroos or Richmond, there is no way both Buckley and Malthouse can survive at Collingwood together.
Malthouse has at least another 3-5 years there and Buckley won't wait that long, Richmond is too good a carrot for him to pass up should he be offered the job.
Wrong place worng time for the Pies to have their fairytail......... and about time.
and how bitter sweet would it be to have Bux as our man against the pies.
I have a close friend, a pies supporter and he really gets angry at the thought of Bux coming to Punt Road. stuff HIM AND stuff THE PIES.
Bux holding the premiership cup alongside a Tigers captain. PRICELESS!!!!
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Well IMO after the Collingwood win last night Malthouse will not leave or be pushed from the Pies regardless of the finals outcome. By doing this Eddie everyware will not be able to fullfill his dream (wet) of getting Buckley to coach the Pies.
IMO Buckley will never end up coaching at the club he played for, he will no doubt go to either the Kangaroos or Richmond, there is no way both Buckley and Malthouse can survive at Collingwood together.
Malthouse has at least another 3-5 years there and Buckley won't wait that long, Richmond is too good a carrot for him to pass up should he be offered the job.
Wrong place worng time for the Pies to have their fairytail......... and about time.
and how bitter sweet would it be to have Bux as our man against the pies.
I have a close friend, a pies supporter and he really gets angry at the thought of Bux coming to Punt Road. eff HIM AND eff THE PIES.
Bux holding the premiership cup alongside a Tigers captain. PRICELESS!!!!
Thats the one Daniel and also, how bad would he wan't to be the Pies every time we played them.... :thumbsup
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i was with you till you said that buckley will be at nth or richmond,
the fact is, andI have been saying this for months,
he wont be at either ;)
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i was with you till you said that buckley will be at nth or richmond,
the fact is, andI have been saying this for months,
he wont be at either ;)
Bux = NO GONADS
As much as i would love him because i think the first thing he would do is dump all those pathetic list cloggers we have, i really think he will sit this year out as an assistant coach.
In fact ill just about put my house on it.
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Bucks this morning on Ch 7 said he expects Malthouse to coach Collingwood next year. When asked if he could be an assistant under Mick, Bucks said "that's one option but I have many options available". Ch 7 news tonight then said Richmond is one of those options.
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Bucks will be coaching richmond 2010 beyond ;)
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Nathan Buckley backs Mick Malthouse as Collingwood coach
Mark Stevens | July 13, 2009
FOOTY'S hottest coaching commodity Nathan Buckley has declared an interest in a supporting role at Collingwood if Mick Malthouse is re-signed.
Asked about the possibility of working under Malthouse next year, Buckley said: "That's a consideration.
"I've got many options available to me and that's what the next part of this season is all about for me."
The six-time Copeland Trophy winner made it clear he thought the reappointment of Malthouse was a done deal.
"I reckon Mick will be reappointed," Buckley said on Channel 7. "They (Collingwood) have won seven games in a row. They're going to finish top four, all things being equal.
"Some of the form that I saw Collingwood display early in the match against the Bulldogs was as good as I've seen them play.
"I think they're in great nick and the coach needs to get some credit and recognition for that."
Collingwood president Eddie McGuire, who last week said the club would not be rushed, was unavailable for comment last night.
North Melbourne is going all out to secure Buckley and could speak to the Collingwood champion within days now his under-16 Victoria Country coaching commitments are over.
Buckley also confirmed yesterday he had had initial discussions with Richmond, which has 10-12 names on its coaching hit list.
He said "chats would be ongoing" but kept in private.
"What's happened with Kevin (Sheedy) last week is the reason that I will not be playing it out in the media," Buckley said.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25771437-19742,00.html
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Buckley being wooed by four
Caroline Wilson | July 14, 2009
ANY DOUBT that the intriguing AFL coaching landscape does not revolve around the pending decision of one man has been removed now that Nathan Buckley has made himself available for job interviews, his junior state coaching commitments complete.
Our understanding is that there are four main suitors for the retired champion. North Melbourne has all but categorically declared him the Kangaroos' most wanted man. Richmond is planning to interview him. And Collingwood seems determined to retain its longest-serving captain.
The smokey has emerged in Hawthorn which appears determined to pursue its democratic coaching path which sees Alastair Clarkson in charge but boasting a number of well-rewarded and highly regarded assistants and football lieutenants.
If the Hawks have not already offered Buckley an assistant's role then they have so unofficially in the belief that Damien Hardwick is almost certain to be lost to them by the start of the 2010 pre-season.
Where Hardwick goes of course largely depends on Buckley. Collingwood might be holding out in achieving a new deal for Mick Malthouse but surely the club knows enough about its long-serving mentor by now to judge whether he is capable of taking the club forward. Perhaps it is congratulating itself upon the waiting game because Malthouse has rarely coached more effectively and that is saying something.
But the cracks are emerging. All year Malthouse has said he is happy to wait until the club comes to him but this is simply not true. AFL coaches are a paranoid lot and Malthouse as much as any. Having been unofficially guaranteed a contract extension early in the year by his president, Malthouse must know that the spectre of Buckley has stalled those negotiations along with a board and administration more determined to oversee checks and balances upon the president than in the past.
Malthouse believes he has the backing of the president but not necessarily the CEO Gary Pert whom Malthouse sees as closely aligned to Craig Kelly, who in turn guides the fortunes of Buckley.
The coach believes he will receive a contract offer in the end but he is angry at the way in which he has been treated and that anger has been revealed in gradual fits and spurts all season — first back in April when he told the ABC he would coach elsewhere next year if not at Collingwood, secondly after an interview granted by Eddie McGuire who cited alternatives such as Mark Williams and again last Friday when he told Triple M his family was not enjoying the delayed proceedings.
So assuming that Collingwood will offer Malthouse a new deal it is difficult to imagine him working in tandem with Buckley as an assistant. Not one Collingwood person contacted by The Age yesterday disagreed. Surely such a combination would be fraught with insecurity and prove both divisive and combustible. Either way an official offer has not come Buckley's way from Collingwood — yet.
So should Collingwood's season continue along its winning way then Buckley must first choose whether to spend a year as an assistant at Hawthorn — in either a full-time or part-time capacity — or take the North Melbourne job which appears to be his.
He may be interviewed by Richmond but he is no certainty to get the job and even less likely to want it. Our understanding is that North for Buckley is a far more attractive proposition.
Tigerland and its dreadful recent history has devoured more experienced campaigners than Buckley over the journey and the message from his camp all season has been that Richmond and all of its cultural problems are not attractive to him.
An assistant coaching position at a successful club such as Hawthorn could appeal more but all the evidence suggests that Buckley is ready to become a senior coach.
Everyone who has watched him work at his various roles this season say he is ready to be made senior coach.
Which leaves North Melbourne.
And what a coup for a club on the brink of relocation less than two years ago that would be.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/buckley-being-wooed-by-four/2009/07/13/1247337075188.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Richmond cultural problems hey :banghead
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we still have problems but bloody hell dont the media exaggerate it. its been 10 years really since we had major cultural problems, since then our problems are largely based on not being successful. over dramatisation me thinks
we have had 2 coaches in 10 yrs , not sure why the media still think its the 80's and 90's
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I'm sick of this woman.
Sheedy shouldn't coach Richmond..
Buckley shoudln't coach Richmond....
What is your agenda Caroline?
I'm absolutely sick to death of media pigs bringing down our club.
Caroline instead of whinging use your time in the spotlight to give some remedies, you've never suggested anything for the club to advance. You have no knowledge or experience of how a football club or a business runs.
Stick to your horrible opinions pieces.
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Caro believes Hardwick and then perhaps Hinkley are our best fit, and the most likely propositions, as coach.
I hope she is correct :shh
Stripes
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Hardwick has a bit of the Sheedy style circa early 80s. If he gets the gig then I dont think we should be complaining.
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Hardwick has a bit of the Sheedy style circa early 80s. If he gets the gig then I dont think we should be complaining.
hardwick hates rfc. he wont come near us and personally i think he is overrated, not sure why everyone thinks his poo dont stink
would rather keep jade than have hardwick
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3aw tonight....
Healy said Sheeds' backers would say Caro has been disenfranchising Sheeds from Richmond. KB would say that to her face.
Caro replied she didn't force Sheeds to pull out. If anything Sheeds would do the opposite of what she says. She doesn't believe the Board had any interest in Sheeds no matter what anyone says. It was selfish of those to push their campaign publicly.
Caro believes Buckley will end up at North. He's their No.1 target while Richmond is sticking to their process. Bucks isn't particularly interested in going to Richmond either. She blames out off-field cultural problems as she mentioned in our article. She also said everyone knows North has a better list than Richmond.
She doesn't know about who'll coach us - Hardwick would be a front runner, Cameron, we may speak to Laidley, we may slam down 2-2.5 million in front of Malthouse and say comeback to be the general of our backline.
A caller rang up, called Caro naive, and bet her that Bucks is tied to Collingwood.
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If we can afford Malthouse then we should pay the 800k a year and get him. Whilst we wont win a flag atleast in 3 years time we'll know that the culture has been changed for the better.
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Why would Caro say Norths list is better than ours and that Buckley has no interest in the Tigers?! I think she is determined to discount the ex-Collingwood captain and get Hardwick to Tigerland.
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The Dam wall has to burst soon, there is so much crap going on with these coaching positions...
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Why would Caro say Norths list is better than ours and that Buckley has no interest in the Tigers?! I think she is determined to discount the ex-Collingwood captain and get Hardwick to Tigerland.
That is exactly what I think Stripes.
Caro is doing exactly what KB did. Putting scenarios in peoples mind and thus getting the media swelling to a possible swayed outcome. The more she brings up heat on Richmond for Buckley to go to North the more likely it becomes.
Would love for Nathan to have the guts and spheres to say. I love a challenge, I want to coach Richmond.
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Richmond cultural problems hey :banghead
you know what Jack we have done it to ourselves we really have.
WHEN not if Bux turns his back on the Tigers we have no one else to blame but ourselves.
Sub standard facilities, media running rings around our club, recruitment, development what do we really expect seriously.
As much i would think he would be the man to steer us in the right direction it will NOT happen.
Our club will not attract the best, all we will attract are those who are desperate for a coaching job because they have been denied elsewhere.
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North Melbourne wants Nathan Buckley decision in weeks
Damian Barrett | July 16, 2009
NORTH Melbourne wants to know within three weeks whether Nathan Buckley is prepared to coach the club.
The timeline comes as Collingwood continues to explore ways of luring Buckley to its coaching panel alongside Mick Malthouse, who is yet to be formally offered a deal beyond this season.
Since Dean Laidley left last month, North has made Buckley its target and is not seriously considering other options until he makes a decision.
But with Richmond well advanced in its search for a coach, North believes an early August answer from Buckley is as long as it can wait.
Aware of the Collingwood pull on its former skipper, North has never been confident of signing Buckley, but continues to hold strong hope he will join the club.
Buckley's options include the Tigers, who will happily add him to a long list of candidates.
As the race for Buckley intensifies, it has emerged that Collingwood's ideal outcome is to have Buckley notcoach another club and agree to take over at the Pies at the end of 2010 or 2011.
Clauses attached to a Malthouse extension remain a major sticking point, though, with the two-time premiership coach irritated at the Pies' dallying over his future.
Buckley is managed by Craig Kelly, a good mate of Magpies chief executive Gary Pert.
While he captained Collingwood for eight years with Malthouse as coach, many close observers say it would be impossible for Buckley to work beneath Malthouse on a Magpies coaching panel.
The two worked on the coaching panel, with Malthouse in charge, during last year's International Rules Series against Ireland in Australia.
The Magpies' pursuit of Buckley strengthened when the club slumped to 3-5 after the opening eight rounds.
But Malthouse has since guided the team to seven consecutive wins, the most recent being the best of the season, a one-point victory against the Western Bulldogs on Friday.
Collingwood president Eddie McGuire told a members' function on Monday night the pending decision on the coaching role would "set the club up for the future".
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25788132-19742,00.html
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Sounds like North are getting the jitters. Not sure if Bucks would like being given an ultimatum.
Stick to the process Tiges.
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It is funny in a way.
But some nuffers say that the Tigers "Process" could hinder their choice as coach but it may actually work the other way.
What i mean that is that by sticking to our guns some prospects out there may actually think we are showing some of things we get a whack for not having = RESOLVE & STABILITY for not being dictated to by outside influences
As for North - keep up the good work :rollin
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Desperation is never attractive....just ask my missus :'(
I agree with you WP, we are coming across here as the more professional and sought after position. Buck's is a competitive operator who may actually be put off by the fact he can have the Nth position without a fight whereas if he claims the Richmond role he had to beat a quality field to claim it.
We are in a no lose situation at the moment. With the quality of the candidates applying for our position, whoever we get will have to be an excellent coach regardless.
Stripes
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If Buckley has said that he wont work as assistant under Malthouse - (I,m not totally conviced) then why hasn't he taken the North role.
There are two reasons - one him is brokering a pathway to coach Collingwood after Malthouse.
He is interested in the Richmond role.
The North job can only be a fall back position and no wonder they are worried.
In saying this, he is an untried coach who I belive would be great for us, but so would Hardwick and whoever shines through our process.
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A caller rang into KB's show and said it's a "fact" that Buckley will be an assistant coach at Hawthorn next year as their forward line coach.
7 more weeks of these rumours to go :P
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A caller rang into KB's show and said it's a "fact" that Buckley will be an assistant coach at Hawthorn next year as their forward line coach.
lol. Well as long as it's a "fact" it must be true.
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Buckley as a forward coach. Right o. :sleep
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they have been in his ear apparently
and really it wouldnt surprise if he did
which allows MM too keep the seat warm. :rollin
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According to Craig Hutchison we are out of the loop for Buckley. Our process will take to long and Hutchys info is that he'll either coach Norf or he'll be senior Assistant coach at the Pies.
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According to Craig Hutchison we are out of the loop for Buckley. Our process will take to long and Hutchys info is that he'll either coach Norf or he'll be senior Assistant coach at the Pies.
In that case I like our process better.
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Steven Wright on the RFC site...
North Melbourne chief executive Eugene Arocca spoke at length about his club's desire to sound out Nathan Buckley on his coaching intentions at the launch, but Wright would not be drawn on individual applicants for the Tigers' senior coaching role.
"We've got a process in place and we'll go through that process. Whatever Nathan decides to do that's a matter for him, but we'll go down the path and we're sure that we'll get the best coach at the end of the day," he said.
"We've got a number of candidates and they're all, on paper, very good and we're about to go through the interview process now where we'll talk to them all individually.
"We're going through a process and that process takes a bit of time, but we'd be looking in probably eight weeks time to have a decision by then. Certainly we're well and truly down the track."
Wright said the club hadn't yet trimmed the applicants down to a final list.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/80851/default.aspx
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North backing away today from their deadline wishes when they meet up with Buckley this weekend.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/80841/default.aspx
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This sounds like a professional, measured club for mine. No rash decisions, no external influences, no emotional knee-jerk reaction to the media or supporters.....are you sure this is our club??? ;D
This will speak volumes to all those in AFL that our clubs coaching position has to be won and fought for not given away.
We need to make an informed decision based on the judgements of many rather than a few. Regardless of how good on candidate may seem, we can not risk another decision like last. North appear to be following the same path we did 5 years a go.
If Bucks believes it is better to take the bird in the hand then I wish him every success but we are too good an option to throw our job away to anyone.
Stripes
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North backing away today from their deadline wishes when they meet up with Buckley this weekend.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/80841/default.aspx
North are making avein attempt to maintain a little bit of dignity if Buckley says he needs more time or just answers with an outright 'No'. The longer Buck's toys with the decision the more time we have to corner the market. :thumbsup
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Bucks will not coach North in my opinion. I'll say why. Ego. Bucks has a huge ego.
Who can remember when he won the Brownlow in 03 yet with jaw protruding and eyes fixed he looked into the camera and proclaimed the bigger goal was the GF and thought the Brownlow was just a distraction to the GF festivities and thus he was not willing to share with his teammates in the same way Aker and Black shared their success in 01 and 02.
North is a club that does not have one. In fact they are just a club that do not promote much passion into anything. Small supporter base, no finances, nothing just a mythical thing called shinboner spirit. Not good finances, poor facilities. Not enough to cater to his ego.
Richmond on the other hand are different. Large supporter base. Poor recent history. Big club. Sound financial position. Blows their trumpet even in poor times. Furthermore club is similar to Collingwood and has not had recent ultimate success so he will fit better into the environment. Look at us in the news every week and we are 3-12.
Club like Richmond if he has some success he will start getting the adulation he craves from an environment that hasn't given it out for a long time. Ultimate success and he will be the legend he feels he is now that he has achieved this. RFC will do whatever he wants and at a big club that is anything. He will have the esteem that a legend that Allan Jeans is held at St Kilda.
Furthermore he would rather play games at the G in front of 70 or 80K and not play in front of 15 -20 K at Etihad stadium when the Roos play Freo and then wait to play Essendon or Coll as a home game to get some sort of motivation to get the club up.
Also Voss got the job untried at Bris and if Bucks come to Rich he can immediately plan to square the ledger on him as Voss stood in his way of ultimate success in 02 and 03. Could see the headline in 2012/13 Tigers v Lions in the big one. What motivation for the ego of the man himself.
Malthouse will stay at Collingwood and the situation there is similar to Rich in 1980.Sheedy was the man in waiting yet Jewell had won the flag. Sheeds was not going to wait. I see a little of Sheeds in Bucks and how driven Bucks is was very similar to how Sheeds was in his early years at Essendon.
The Footy Gods will eventually shine on us and history will pan out in a similar yet different way. Bucks will have great success at Richmond and Collingwood will try fruitlessly to lure him back to their lair that will indicate their on and off field predicament. Bucks will love being the centre of attention at Richmond with success and the centre of attention at Collingwood when their seasons will be ending much in the same way they have ended prematurely at Richmond for the last 27 years.
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Bucks will not coach North in my opinion. I'll say why. Ego. Bucks has a huge ego.
Who can remember when he won the Brownlow in 03 yet with jaw protruding and eyes fixed he looked into the camera and proclaimed the bigger goal was the GF and thought the Brownlow was just a distraction to the GF festivities and thus he was not willing to share with his teammates in the same way Aker and Black shared their success in 01 and 02.
Spot on Tuckerbag - also if you look at when he led the team out the race that GF - same square jaw, fixed eyes.
Its actually a minor problem I have with Bucks. That year they were playing well, relaxed had been to the GF before and seemed to have an even money chance of winning it. When he got intense (and I think it was premeditated and unnaturally over the top) I think his team got nervous.
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Hutchy did not give Bucks much chance of going to Richmond on the footy show last night.
wanker
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I like your thinking Tucker!!! :clapping
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Ch 7 news had Malthouse happy to have Buckley as an assistant.
Edit: here's the article about it on the AFL site
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/80862/default.aspx
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Yeah read that.. :( :( :(, looks like Eddie has done it ... yet again. Mick you are week if this happens and scared.
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Steven Wright on the RFC site...
North Melbourne chief executive Eugene Arocca spoke at length about his club's desire to sound out Nathan Buckley on his coaching intentions at the launch, but Wright would not be drawn on individual applicants for the Tigers' senior coaching role.
"We've got a process in place and we'll go through that process. Whatever Nathan decides to do that's a matter for him, but we'll go down the path and we're sure that we'll get the best coach at the end of the day," he said.
"We've got a number of candidates and they're all, on paper, very good and we're about to go through the interview process now where we'll talk to them all individually.
"We're going through a process and that process takes a bit of time, but we'd be looking in probably eight weeks time to have a decision by then. Certainly we're well and truly down the track."
Wright said the club hadn't yet trimmed the applicants down to a final list.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/80851/default.aspx
I know we don't want to make a rushed decision but does another 8 weeks seem like a long time? Fair enough if Bucks or any other candidate would like to know a little sooner so they could make alternative plans. It's already been nearly 5 weeks!
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interesting turn of events.
pies might end getting who they want all the rest is byplay.
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13 Pages :o
What has this guy actually done - Please explain
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Ch 7 news had Malthouse happy to have Buckley as an assistant.
Edit: here's the article about it on the AFL site
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/80862/default.aspx
Not sure why he would, if Bucks comes on as an assistant it means Malthouse is getting phased out of the senior job
If anything, bringing Buckley in as succession planning should mean Malthouse goes somewhere else offering longer term security.
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interesting turn of events.
pies might end getting who they want all the rest is byplay.
Won't happen. Collingwood is not big enough for either Malthouse or Buckley in the coaching of that club. One will go without doubt. With Collingwood at 10-5 you would say Bucks might be the one coming to RFC I hope.
Furthermore the players seem to want Mick yet Pert and some others on the board seem to want Bucks thus leaving Ed in an attempt to be peacemaker trying to forge a Mick/Bucks partnership. Depending on how this ends up could be Eddie's Waterloo in the future.
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Bucks didn't reveal much last night on Ch 7 after the game last night. Basically said he's meeting with North to just "touch base" on where he stands but he won't be discussing things through the media. He wants to keep things behind closed doors.
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From the Age..
Tigers chief executive Steven Wright said the Kangaroos' aggressive pursuit of Buckley would not add any urgency to the three-stage process his club has devised to filter through a list of candidates.
"We've got a process and everyone will go through that process," Wright said.
"Out of that decision, what Nathan decides to do, that's a matter for him, but we'll go down that path and I'm sure we'll get the best coach at the end of the day."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/roos-sweat-on-buckley-meeting/2009/07/17/1247337266256.html
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Again North are looking like fools.
In fact they remind me of us in 2004 just going after Wallace and thats it as it was the right choice according to the Casey and Miller ticket with a board election looming.
Seems very unprofessional of North to put an ultimatum on him. Bucks is intelligent and driven and very professional saying publically he will go through a process. He will go through his process and his way. If North fail to snare him they have put all their eggs in the one basket and all the other "good applicants" will be well and truly at the business end with our process. Furthermore the successful candidate who does successfully get the North job will know that they were second best in the knowledge that Bucks was the preferred candidate. Bucks being professional can also see this and would understand this too. Furthermore why would he want a job at a financially stricken club with not many fans not much going for it not much identity and not much character who play 1 game a season in front of 45000 at the dome and the others are in near empty stadiums with less atmosphere than a satellite on Neptune when he can coach the Tigers and at least have some passion and atmosphere at the games with huge crowds at the G against big 4 clubs and huge potential in stark contrast to the Sh1tboner spirit that evokes very minimal passion. Furthermore being driven I feel he would want to beat 15 candidates going for the Richmond job knowing he would want everyone to know he is the best applicant that would just add to his aura rather than going to a nobody club who will boost their profile with him there. Its the old Looney Tunes Spike the Dog and Chester the Dog sucking up to him.
Even his prediction in the HSun of him tipping the Roos by 20 was done mindfully to flatter North with him having their meeting this weekend rather than anything else as he has stated that our list is better than theirs.
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You know what - F him he is a Skunk lover - Don't want him. Pizz off bucks fizz.
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You know what - F him he is a Skunk lover - Don't want him. Pizz off bucks fizz.
Not a fan CUB :lol
Our first premiership coach was a former Collingwood captain and we went back-to-back ;). For us Bucks needs to go through our interview process. If he doesn't then que sera sera but if he does and comes through out on top then well and good.
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imo jade should be looked at, he has what it takes , and is young and has the players ears
we dont want a celebrity to coach us , we just want a coach
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Seems very unprofessional of North to put an ultimatum on him.....If North fail to snare him they have put all their eggs in the one basket and all the other "good applicants" will be well and truly at the business end with our process. Furthermore the successful candidate who does successfully get the North job will know that they were second best in the knowledge that Bucks was the preferred candidate.
Spot on Tucky :thumbsup. North have cornered themselves if Bucks says no to them. We also have the jump on North as far as the other candidates go. Even Rocca admitted that on Friday.
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imo jade should be looked at, he has what it takes , and is young and has the players ears
we dont want a celebrity to coach us , we just want a coach
He is getting looked at you moron, he's applied for the job and is part of the process
We don't just want a coach either, we want a great coach, we want our next premiership coach
I couldn't care less if they were high profile or not, as long as they are the best person for the job, that's all that matters
Not the best Richmond person, not the best available person, just the best person for the job
There are two things that will determine if we succeed, first that we follow the process, secondly that the criteria set for the process are correct. If we get these two things right then we will be fine.
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imo jade should be looked at, he has what it takes , and is young and has the players ears
we dont want a celebrity to coach us , we just want a coach
I think we are in a fantastic position that if worst came to worst everyone pulled out of the job and all that was left is the caretaker coach. I think Jade couldn't do any worse then whats seen him previously. I think he'd be a fine coach.
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Bucks was still keeping his cards close to his chest today on 3aw. As a result Mike could hardly be bothered asking him about it.
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Well Sam Lane and Andy Maher said tonight that Buckley wants to go through the Richmond process so how can North expect an answer from him now. Maher even commended Richmond on how we are handling our selection process :o.
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Jon Ralph on Ch 10 said North have demanded an answer within a week from Buckley and North will call a special board meeting this week.
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Jon Ralph on Ch 10 said North have demanded an answer within a week from Buckley and North will call a special board meeting this week.
They are shooting themselves in the foot a little, or has Bucks given them a little nod and just needs to confirm? Sounds like they dont have a process!
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Brayshaw on MMM earlier today....
* Offer has been put to Bucks. The money is good and is "not an issue at all" for either party.
* Offered 4 years, Bucks would prefer 3 according to Damien Barrett
* Agreed that it's between a senior position with North and an assistant position at Collingwood. Everyone agreed that it would be hard to make the Collingwood job work, and would be unfair to Mick.
* The general mood of the box (Garry, BT, Barrett, JB, Spud Frawley) was that Bucks to North is the most likely scenario
* BT said that getting Bucks would "forever change everyone's perception of the North Melbourne footy club for the better." JB disagreed but said that Bucks would be a "huge short term positive"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15116237&postcount=69
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Brayshaw on MMM earlier today....
* Offer has been put to Bucks. The money is good and is "not an issue at all" for either party.
* Offered 4 years, Bucks would prefer 3 according to Damien Barrett
* Agreed that it's between a senior position with North and an assistant position at Collingwood. Everyone agreed that it would be hard to make the Collingwood job work, and would be unfair to Mick.
* The general mood of the box (Garry, BT, Barrett, JB, Spud Frawley) was that Bucks to North is the most likely scenario
* BT said that getting Bucks would "forever change everyone's perception of the North Melbourne footy club for the better." JB disagreed but said that Bucks would be a "huge short term positive"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15116237&postcount=69
Of course North have to look to their supporter base that they are doing something and that they are a legitimate chance in getting Bucks. For a club like North with a small supporter base if the appointing of a coach fails or a prospective candidate does not come it can have grave results for their club.
Refused to go to GC
Failed to get Bucks
Low mwmbership supporter base.
Can't see Bucks going to a financially stuffed club who in those 3 years that a prospective Contract Bucks could sign may not be able to rub two pennies together.
As Brayshaw said they are going after a Bucks to change the public perception of the club and that they are a big club. Of course those goons on Triple M will agree with him on air. This aint the 70's there is no 10 year rule. Bucks is not The Messiah and Aylett and co are not putting their houses on the line. Bucks knows that and he can see their appraoch is unprofessional also. North are a nothing club with no supporters. Bucks if he ends up at North won't change that club.
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North Melbourne and Collingwood jostle for coaching prospect
Damian Barratt, Jackie Epstein | July 19, 2009
NORTH Melbourne will widen its search for a new coach if its preferred candidate, Nathan Buckley, cannot commit to the job within two weeks.
But the Sunday Herald Sun believes a board meeting has been scheduled for Wednesday at which it is hoped Buckley will have provided an indication of his interest.
North president James Brayshaw met him on Friday morning and indicated the Roos' senior coaching position could be his if he wanted it.
Brayshaw yesterday refused to discuss details of the meeting, but admitted he wanted to know Buckley's intentions for 2010 as soon as possible.
That means Collingwood has a short window to convince Buckley that working as an assistant to Mick Malthouse is a better fit than the head role at North Melbourne.
Should Buckley say he wants more time to consider his options, North would keep him in its potential plans for next year but at the same time embark on a full-scale search process.
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"I have spoken to Nathan very recently," Brayshaw said on Triple M radio yesterday.
"I said, 'Nathan, do you wish to coach senior football next year? Because if you do, we would like to talk to you about that. We think we are a great fit for you.
''If you don't want to coach AFL football next year, please let us know ASAP so we can move on'."
Brayshaw said the conversation went "very well", and he described the former Magpie as "an enormously impressive unit".
He also said Buckley and his management were happy with the tenure and the remuneration that had been discussed.
"Money was not an issue, that was knocked on the head pretty quickly," he said.
"I think he and his management team want a fairly long commitment. They don't want a couple of years. There is no problem with that.
"We have a board meeting at the end of the month and we need to go into that board meeting with a clear direction as to what we are doing, whether we are going in with Nathan's name at the top of the list or whether we are putting a list together and going down a normal path."
Buckley's manager, Craig Kelly, had been previously told by the Roos that consideration would be given to a contract for at least the 2010, 2011 and 2012 seasons.
In the past month, Collingwood has intensified its bid to have the 2003 Brownlow medallist commit to working under Malthouse for the 2010 and 2011 seasons.
It is understood the club is working towards a situation where it would ask Malthouse to relinquish the main post at the end of 2011, regardless of the Magpies' performance.
Buckley would not be drawn on the matter yesterday, except to say he would commit to whichever role "optimises his football knowledge".
"I'm not going to favour one option over another," he told 3AW listeners.
"At the end of the year I'm assuming there would be assistant coaching roles available. The ball's not in my court...clubs will run processes as they see fit.
"I will be looking at what is best for me and a role that I can better the club I go to. If I can pull the trigger on one of those roles I will."
Collingwood president Eddie McGuire declined to comment further yesterday. He said on Friday night the issue regarding Buckley was about timing.
"Would I love Bucks to be at Collingwood?" he said on station SEN.
"Yes, and Bucks said one day he knows I'd love to have Peter Daicos running out the water and Tony Shaw cutting the oranges and being down there and singing the song. Of course you do.
"There's the romance of football and there's the reality, as well, and you just have to make the decisions based on timing and the knowledge that you have."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25803519-19742,00.html
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Brownless said he's heard North have signed Buckley up to a 5 year deal and it'll be announced very shortly. North offered 5 years to beat Collingwood's offer of 2 years as an assistant.
Brayshaw replied that nothing has been signed. They just want to know from Buckley whether he wants to be a senior coach or not before their next board meeting at the end of the month so if the answer is no they can move on and look at others like Crocker, Longmire, Brad Scott and Hardwick.
So we'll all know in a week's time what's happening with Buckley.
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Nathan Buckley expected to decide on future within week
AAP | July 19, 2009 03:40pm
NORTH Melbourne president James Brayshaw expects Nathan Buckley to decide within a week whether he wants to be a senior coach next season.
Brayshaw met with Buckley on Friday and said the club had agreed to the former Collingwood champion's financial terms if he signed on to become their next coach.
He said the Kangaroos had given Buckley a week to work out whether he wants to take the plunge as a head coach or start out as an assistant elsewhere.
"We've got a board meeting at the end of the month, we don't want to waste any more time," Brayshaw said on the Nine Network's Sunday Footy Show.
"If Nathan doesn't want to coach senior footy, and that's absolutely fine, that's entirely up to him, we think there are some wonderful people lined up ready to do it.
"One o f them is the bloke who's doing it at the moment (caretaker coach Darren Crocker) and doing a great job.
"You've got people like John Longmire, Brad Scott, it's degrees of winning.
"If Nathan for some reason doesn't want to do a senior job then I think we will end up with a terrific person."
Brayshaw said the Kangaroos had no issue about meeting Buckley's financial terms.
"What his management said is `This is, if we do this, the amount of money we'd be looking at,'" Brayshaw said.
"We've said to him `There's no problem with that, the money's not an issue'.
"The issue is whether Nathan wants to be a fulltime senior coach, if he does we'd love to talk to him."
Collingwood are understood to be chasing their former skipper as an assistant to coach Mick Malthouse, while Richmond have also talked to Buckley about their vacant head coaching job for next season.
Brayshaw acknowledged the `Roos' aggressive pursuit of Buckley was "not ideal" for Crocker, who is also seeking the position permanently, but said it was in the best interests of the club.
"We've sat down with Crock, myself and (football manager) Donald McDonald and said `This is what we're going to do,'" he said.
"The main thing you do with footy clubs is put the club first always and Darren is a great example of that, so he has said `I have no problem with what you're doing.'
"We've guaranteed Crock that if Nathan doesn't take the job on then he will get to the interview stage, so he's very comfortable."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25804676-19768,00.html
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I'm :pray that Bucks takes the Roos job which will enable us a monopoly on all the best coaching candidates. It will also allow us time to actually find the best coach for us rather than the coach the media say is the best.
Even if we go Bucks he would only be at the Tigers until the Pies coaching position became available. Like TW has proved himself to be, Bucks is for Bucks and would have not loyalty to anyone other than himself.
Stripes
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there are some great candidates out there, North are behaving like some cheap Sydney hooker :shh..
big interview week coming i hear.
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there are some great candidates out there, North are behaving like some cheap Sydney hooker :shh..
big interview week coming i hear.
Is this the first week in the 'Process' 3rogerd?
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when do we expect to be down to the last 5 for the job.... can anyone tell us
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I'm :pray that Bucks takes the Roos job which will enable us a monopoly on all the best coaching candidates. It will also allow us time to actually find the best coach for us rather than the coach the media say is the best.
Even if we go Bucks he would only be at the Tigers until the Pies coaching position became available. Like TW has proved himself to be, Bucks is for Bucks and would have not loyalty to anyone other than himself.
Stripes
I agree 100 % Stripes, Bucks is for the Bucks he would drop us like a bag of S#@& to coach the Magpies.
IF he had said what Sheeds had said that he wanted to coach Richmond full stop, then i would warm to him.
But he aint interested in us we need someone more committed.
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So if North are such a basket case where's the $$$$ to pay for Bucks coming from?
Not AFL handouts I hope.
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Would Bucks be put off by how desperate the Roos are looking?
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Would Bucks be put off by how desperate the Roos are looking?
He's a smart bloke (as smart as a collywobble can be i suppose :lol) and from all reports he is doing his homework and following his own process. I doubt North's desperation will sway him one way or the other in the end. If they come up smelling like roses to Bucks, that's where he'll go.
He wants a GF - never got one at Collingwood and his ego needs to be able to hold that premiership medal over others. That drive and singular vision is actually a good thing for us from a potential coach and something that'll definitely go in the pros column next to Buck's name during our process. Our list is something that hopefully will go in Bucks'
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there are some great candidates out there, North are behaving like some cheap Sydney hooker :shh..
big interview week coming i hear.
Is this the first week in the 'Process' 3rogerd?
interviews this week, i read or heard somewhere.
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Would Bucks be put off by how desperate the Roos are looking?
It might actually be to Bucks' benefit- If he really does want to go back to the pies then the Roos would be a perfect apprenticeship for Bucks, North might be offering 5 years, but it might be the case that Bucks wants to see how long Malthouse gets, say 2 years, then Buckley might agree to only 2 years as well.
LMAO at how Buckley will be using a head coaching role @ North to do his apprenticeship.
It reminds me of the time I rang up the RFC to complain that they had brought back Gaspar to the seniors too early from his knee reco, and that he should've done some time in the reserves. Frawley's PA said to me- "Do you think Collingwood would bring up Nathan Buckley through the reserves?" :lol
(my reply was 'Gaspar's an alright player-but he ain't no Nathan Buckley!)
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Buckley on 3aw tonight..
* He's met with North 4 times over the last month. Still in discussion (nothing signed as was rumoured).
* He's involved in both North and Richmond processes and s letting these processes take their course.
* Last meeting was with North on Friday. He didn't meet with them today as rumoured. He's learnt from all this people make stuff up.
* He doesn't know what 2010 offers for him. He has an open mind as he always has had.
* His aim as it was when he first put his hand up is to get into footy again as he misses it. It needs to be right for him so he progresses. It also needs to be right for the club he ends up at.
* Donald McDonald at North has put together a list of alternative applicants. Buckley said he's always believed he wasn't the only one North are interested in.
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It's BF so take it with a grain of salt but a Carlton supporter is claiming Buckley has agreed to coach North and it'll be announced in the next week or so.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15145361&postcount=1
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Roos wait on Buckley
Jake Niall | July 22, 2009
NORTH Melbourne has postponed the board meeting that was scheduled today to discuss the club's approach to Nathan Buckley, as the former Collingwood champion considers his future.
The meeting, which would involve a discussion of "plan B" if Buckley was not interested, will be held in the middle of next week, by which stage the club hopes to have a clearer picture of where it stands with Buckley.
North is understood to be willing to secure Buckley on a long-term coaching contract of at least four years. Buckley will meet Richmond later this week, as the Tigers speak to various candidates. He is also under strong consideration at his old club as a possible assistant to Mick Malthouse. Hawks president Jeff Kennett ruled him out as an assistant at Hawthorn.
Senior North officials have spoken to him at least twice, and Buckley's manager Craig Kelly has received the information he sought on the club's football department spending and structure — details that Kelly has sought from all of Buckley's suitors.
North's board had directed the administration to investigate the Buckley option first and then canvass other possibilities.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/roos-wait-on-buckley/2009/07/21/1247941916382.html
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Sounds to me like Buckley is checking to see if he has a chance to caoch Richmond and whether they would be what he is after as well before committing himself at the Roos. My guess is that the Roos is his fall back.
Either that or he is just biding his time to see where the cards fall at Pieland but I think the first option is the most likely.
Stripes
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Agree Stripes. Buckley is perfectly entitled to 'look after # 1' and explore all his options fully - just like the clubs are. Puts a tick on the 'pro' side of his credentials imho.
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SEN just said Collingwood has put an offer to Buckley to coach their VFL side next year which will play home games at Vic Park.
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What would be funny (although nearly unbearable) would be to see Malthouse win a flag with Collingwood in 2011, then watch the fur fly as Eddie has to convince Mick to stand down so they can uphold the promise to Buckley. Does anyone else think that by giving Malthouse 2 years and then promising Buckley the gig that Collingwood are in fact admitting they can't win a flag in the next 2 years? I'm not sure if Malthouse will be happy with a 'final' 2 years and I'm not sure that Buckley will be happy coaching in the VFL for more than 2 years. Funnily enough, we are currently the ones looking the most stable, professional and in control of the situation at the moment.
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SEN just said Collingwood has put an offer to Buckley to coach their VFL side next year which will play home games at Vic Park.
have they told Gavin Brown? :rollin :rollin
And struth they will need to do "repairs" to Vic Park to play games at that dump ;D
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SEN just said Collingwood has put an offer to Buckley to coach their VFL side next year which will play home games at Vic Park.
LMAO AT YOU GUYS WHO SERIOUSLY THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO COME TO PUNT ROAD
hahahahaha
bucks, eddie r stuffin idiots and malthouse is as well if he stands for that crap
he is a dead man walking
Edit: stop avoiding the swear filter!
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Eddie is denying the Collingwood VFL job offer for Bucks
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/81150/default.aspx
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The media never let the truth get in the way of a good story now do they? ::)
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Interesting comment by Peter Daicos on SEN. He said Bucks would like the fact that Richmond is going through a selection process. Bucks would like that Richmond isn't just interested because they are in love with him but because they want the best person.
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NM ought to be wary of leading an exhaustive search that involves a single candidate, history tells us that isnt the answer :o
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Mike Sheahan for what it's worth reckons there's only two players in the play for Bucks - North and Collingwood. Healy then said what about Richmond as Bucks is meeting them this week. Mike replied Bucks has never really been "in" as far as Richmond goes. Mike doesn't know but he's never seen the Tigers and Bucks as a mix.
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NM ought to be wary of leading an exhaustive search that involves a single candidate, history tells us that isnt the answer :o
North are more after the publicity to boost their ailing finances. There's going to be a few eggs on faces down at Arden St if Bucks turns around and says no.
I guess North are doing us a favour. Their infatuation with Bucks and the media's dismissal of Bucks coming to Tigerland means the media aren't creating a circus down at Punt Rd a la Cousins-style over Bucks' interview with us this week.
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If Bucks goes to Nth the Sh1tboners will be paying 85% of the salary cap.
Will be suicide for Bucks to coach a side with such a meagre bank balance. How will you attract players to want to stay when they could be getting alot more elsewhere?
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Sorry Tucker, i hate to be disagreeing with you again its not personal. One thing North has been able to do is keep their playing list together despite their inabilty to pay as well as other clubs. They are far more stable in personel than, say.....................................The Tigers!
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Sorry Tucker, i hate to be disagreeing with you again its not personal. One thing North has been able to do is keep their playing list together despite their inabilty to pay as well as other clubs. They are far more stable in personel than, say.....................................The Tigers!
That cool GR12 :thumbsup. It's a forum.
I know they have done well to hold their list together to a point. :thumbsup
I just feel that North can't just keep re hashing things like Shinboner spirit and such and expect to keep the majority of players, especially with the big bucks that will be floated around once GC17 and WS18 enter the comp. I just feel a more low key no frills appointment in coach will suit the North Melbourne image rather than a flashy take no prisoner my way or the highway appointee who hasn't coached a game of footy close to this level in Bucks who would be better suited to a more media savvy or popular club that would cater to the ego of Bucks.
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just heard bucks will announce he is going to north tonight on the footy show :-\
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just heard bucks will announce he is going to north tonight on the footy show :-\
I would simply crack up laughing if they did so on the Footy Show. :lol
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Arocca said he knew nothing about such an announcement.
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just heard bucks will announce he is going to north tonight on the footy show :-\
I would simply crack up laughing if they did so on the Footy Show. :lol
Yep! It would seem to be incredibly tacky and a massive conflict of interest if they did announce it on the footy show! It wouldnt be like the footy show to have a conflict of interest :whistle
They might even bring trev back for a one of return to complete the spectacle
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Absolutely disgraceful for North if they did on TFS.
If Buckley agreed to this (assuming it happens), then we're better off without him. Playing out such a charade on that show is a downright embarrassment to all involved.
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Bucks to update his coaching situation on Ch 7 news tonight.
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Bucks wouldn't give anything away tonight and just said he's living through plenty of speculation at the moment it looks like and like Mick getting a bit of the sick of the saga. Bucks said he's "just going through the process with the clubs" and is "still in discussion".
Make of that what you will.
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thats all he can follow is the PROCESS laid out in front of him. :rollin
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Buckley supposedly offered between $800,000 and $1,000,000 a year by North. I wouldnt take him at those rates. Richmond would be better off hiring Hardwick on $350,000 with bonuses for successes and sticking the other $650,000 a year into getting more recruiting people and more development coaches.
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Buckley supposedly offered between $800,000 and $1,000,000 a year by North. I wouldnt take him at those rates. Richmond would be better off hiring Hardwick on $350,000 with bonuses for successes and sticking the other $650,000 a year into getting more recruiting people and more development coaches.
Agree Ramps.
It's a disgrace that North while on AFL handouts for survival and crying poor can be allowed to fork out that much dough on a new coach. It's as much if not more than any existing coach in the league.
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I reckon $350k per year even for a rookie senior coach would be pretty low
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Pies close in on snaring Buckley
Caroline Wilson | July 24, 2009
COLLINGWOOD coach Mick Malthouse has accepted in principle a deal that would see him work next season side-by-side with his former captain Nathan Buckley.
Although Buckley has not given his old club a final answer, that is expected to come in a matter of days with North Melbourne privately declaring Monday as the final deadline for retired champion to tell the Kangaroos if he wants to be their senior coach.
But the North hierarchy, who last week had been quietly confident of luring Buckley to Arden Street on a long-term deal of at least four years, had become less optimistic by yesterday.
The Collingwood agreement, orchestrated by president Eddie McGuire and his chief executive Gary Pert, has been strongly endorsed by Buckley's manager Craig Kelly and would involve Buckley working as a senior assistant to Malthouse, who has been offered a new two-year agreement.
It is understood Malthouse has not been asked to take a paycut. The 55-year-old two-time premiership coach confirmed yesterday he had met Buckley four days ago at the behest of the club to plan a potential working relationship.
At the meeting, the two men went into some detail regarding their division of labour with Buckley outlining at some length his projected responsibilities. Although Malthouse glibly described the talks as "perfect", he was privately less enthusiastic.
"I'm not prepared to go through that discussion. That's why we had it in-house," the coach said yesterday.
But despite his strong misgivings the veteran coach, who joined the Magpies for season 2000, has conceded McGuire and Pert were determined to plot a future for the club with Buckley eventually at the coaching helm and that to remain at Collingwood he would have to subscribe to what is in reality an unofficial "Kirribilli Agreement".
All that remains is for Buckley to make a final decision and the strong feeling from Collingwood yesterday was that it had come tantalisingly close to convincing its longest serving captain and six-time Copeland winner to return to the club and not coach elsewhere.
While the senior position at Richmond remains a longshot for Buckley because of the timing, only an intensive and meaningful push from North in the coming days appears to stand between the Magpies and their favourite son.
Orchestrating a Malthouse-Buckley partnership was first floated in The Age by McGuire in March. That he appears close to achieving such a deal is a massive fillip in the short-term for the 11-year president.
Kelly's part in the groundswell pushing Buckley towards Collingwood cannot be underestimated. Not only is he a close friend of Pert's and a Collingwood premiership player, but he has played a major role in Buckley's career as a friend and manager.
However, Malthouse yesterday stressed he would not be putting a use-by date upon his coaching future. "I feel very comfortable in my job," he said. "I know I'm getting the best out of the players and getting the best out of myself. Does that stay for one year, two years, three years, five years? I can't say that, but I'm not about to declare that it's going to be one or two years when it could be five or six years. It could be six months too."
When asked if he was open to an agreed succession to Buckley, Malthouse replied: "That's the part of it the club needs to look at and address with my management."
Malthouse admitted the saga was having an effect on some staff. "I suppose it's probably starting to wear thin on a few blokes, but they see the funny side of it more so than if there is a serious side to it, so that's a good sign," he said.
McGuire denied anyone was worried about their futures if they were linked with Malthouse, but hinted he was keen on implementing a transition plan.
"Maybe football's moving on and changing and maybe that's what we're trying to achieve at Collingwood, to get something a little bit more progressive and sustainable rather than what has happened in the past," McGuire told SEN.
At least two Collingwood assistants are candidates for the Richmond job in Brad Scott, who is contracted to Collingwood next year, and Mark Neeld.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/pies-close-to-snaring-buckley/2009/07/23/1247942007554.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Buckley supposedly offered between $800,000 and $1,000,000 a year by North. I wouldnt take him at those rates. Richmond would be better off hiring Hardwick on $350,000 with bonuses for successes and sticking the other $650,000 a year into getting more recruiting people and more development coaches.
Agree Ramps.
It's a disgrace that North while on AFL handouts for survival and crying poor can be allowed to fork out that much dough on a new coach. It's as much if not more than any existing coach in the league.
Yep and while the coach gets 1 million a year the club is forking out only 92% of the salary cap. I'd think the players would be wanting alot more than what they are on when their new contracts are up. Of course this won't end in disaster. :whistle
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Buckley supposedly offered between $800,000 and $1,000,000 a year by North. I wouldnt take him at those rates. Richmond would be better off hiring Hardwick on $350,000 with bonuses for successes and sticking the other $650,000 a year into getting more recruiting people and more development coaches.
Agree Ramps.
It's a disgrace that North while on AFL handouts for survival and crying poor can be allowed to fork out that much dough on a new coach. It's as much if not more than any existing coach in the league.
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Tigers to interview Buckley
Michael Gleeson | July 25, 2009
THE future of the AFL's most talked about prospective coach in Nathan Buckley is unlikely to be decided for some time yet with the former Collingwood captain agreeing to be interviewed by Richmond for its coaching job next week.
Buckley's Richmond interview, which The Age understands to be later next week, puts in doubt the likelihood that North Melbourne will have a definitive answer from him on his future by its preferred Monday deadline.
North has been concerned that while it is eager for Buckley to take the job it also cannot indefinitely wait, in the event that it is turned down and must search for an alternative.
The Roos want to know one way or another from Buckley by Monday, but with his interview at Richmond later next week that deadline is likely to be made more flexible or North might commence the search for an alternative.
Collingwood and Buckley are still examining the possibility of taking an assistant's role at the Magpies under Michael Malthouse.
Buckley and Malthouse met for several hours recently to discuss how that relationship might work.
Malthouse, who is understood to be far from thrilled at the idea that a proposed successor to his role as senior coach was being introduced, sarcastically described those talks when asked about them at his weekly press conference on Thursday as "perfect".
Buckley has remained true to a view that he would stay quiet on the issue, aware that other people will comment on it without his voice adding to the speculation and uncertainty.
Buckley will be one of up to 12 people interviewed by Richmond next week, including Essendon assistant Alan Richardson, former Tigers player Leon Cameron, Brisbane Lions premiership player Justin Leppitsch, Geelong assistant Ken Hinkley, Magpies assistants Brad Scott and Mark Neeld and West Coast's Peter Sumich.
Caretaker coach Jade Rawlings will also be interviewed and while he was considered to be merely warming the seat for the next coach to take over, his stocks have risen dramatically since stepping in to replace Terry Wallace. He continues to impress those in charge with the manner in which he has conducted himself.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/tigers-to-interview-buckley/2009/07/24/1247942051190.html
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Even if he decides to pull out of the contest, the fact that Buckley is prepared to interview with the Tigers add significance to our approach.
In effect, they will be testing each other out but it proves that rigor around recruiting for the most important role at a football club is one part of the overall criteria that Bucks puts a high value.
Probably does not help the Kanga cause unless ego wins over his final decision. Which is what we don't need. Which is why our process beats the Kanga-woo.
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Not good news for North and so much for talk about Bucks thinking we're a basketcase ::).
No Hardwick in the list of names there but they've probably left him out as he's been mentioned in previous media reports.
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Bucks confirmed on 3aw he is meeting Richmond next week. He also has more with North. North understand he is meeting with us. When asked if it may cost him the North job Bucks said "I hope not".
He will let things run its course until he makes a decision. His thoughts will ebb and flow on what he wants to do. Being in the media or being an assistant coach are also possible options next year.
Cometti was bagging us saying why would Bucks want to go to us or North when he could go to Collingwood. He then said if Bucks has the same 4 years as Wallace did it'll wreck his career as it would any coach. Wallace was unprepared for what he had to do there and Richmond were unprepared. Bucks knocked that on the head. He said Wallace had coached before for 7-8 years (basically his is not Wallace) and Richmond may be better prepared for a new coach this time around.
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Buckley confident on coaching meetings
July 25, 2009 - 1:53PM
The AFL's most pursued coach-in-waiting, Nathan Buckley, is confident his decision to meet with Richmond will not affect his prospects with other clubs.
The saga of which club Buckley will coach with has dragged on for weeks with Richmond, North Melbourne and Collingwood in focus.
North Melbourne has offered Buckley the senior job at Arden Street, where he would take over from stand-in Darren Crocker, who was called up when Dean Laidley left Kangaroos mid-season.
Buckley will meet the Richmond hierarchy next week to discuss the coaching position.
The Tigers also have a caretaker role, with Jade Rawlings appointed when Terry Wallace left recently.
Buckley said he did not believe his decision to meet with Richmond would adversely affect his hopes at another club.
"I hope not - North knows where I stand," he told Fairfax Radio.
Buckley has also been linked to a possible assistant job under his old coach Mick Malthouse at Collingwood but has all but ruled out waiting for the new Gold Coast team to join the competition.
"That's another 12 months away and there's probably a few decisions that need to be made before that becomes an option," Buckley said.
Buckley and Malthouse met this week, a move orchestrated by the club and he said the pair would have no problems working together.
"I've been interested with the discussion about our supposed frosty relationship and it's never been as bad as people suggest," Buckley said.
"I was his captain for eight years."
Malthouse is working hard to make sure the talk does not distract his players from their task - and it certainly didn't last night as the Magpies belted Carlton by 54 points.
But he admits the speculation is "wearing thin" on some people.
Malthouse is yet to be re-signed for 2010.
"I think things can be done when they need to be done," he said.
http://www.watoday.com.au/sport/buckley-confident-on-coaching-meetings-20090725-dwp5.html
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JON Ralph on Ch 10 just said North want an emphatic yes or no from Buckley by close of business Monday. If he says no then North will go on with their search for a new coach without Buckley and he won't be part of the process as he has too many fingers in too many pies (excuse the pun). So it looks like North are out it if he is meeting with us next week. Ralph said it looks more than likely now that Buckley will be an assistant at Collingwood.
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So many latex gloves lines but so not appropriate here. :-X
If Buckley doesn't take the alleged big money at North then you'd expect it unlikely for him to take the Richmond job.
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Geez what a public slap in the face to North. They've thrown everything at Bucks and promised to give him everything he wants and now it looks like they've missed out going too hard too early. There's going to be enough egg on faces down at Arden St to make an omelette.
Stick to the process Tigers :thumbsup
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So if Buckley doesn't just take the job they won't consider him at all?
What a joke of a club they are
That's just grade 4 material right there, I guess the question is, who dropped who?
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That's what Jon Ralph said Infamy.
Kennett came out today and bagged Buckley for not making the call now on becoming a senior coach at North or Richmond and harming his (Bucks) own brand ???
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JON Ralph on Ch 10 just said North want an emphatic yes or no from Buckley by close of business Monday. If he says no then North will go on with their search for a new coach without Buckley and he won't be part of the process as he has too many fingers in too many pies (excuse the pun). So it looks like North are out it if he is meeting with us next week. Ralph said it looks more than likely now that Buckley will be an assistant at Collingwood.
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what you just figured that out now
This thread about Bucks should be closed permanently. he will NOT ever step foot inside Punt Road doors. EVER.
he is using us as interview experience. he couldnt care less about us. He was made an assistant months ago by Eddie the stuffhead
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JON Ralph on Ch 10 just said North want an emphatic yes or no from Buckley by close of business Monday. If he says no then North will go on with their search for a new coach without Buckley and he won't be part of the process as he has too many fingers in too many pies (excuse the pun). So it looks like North are out it if he is meeting with us next week. Ralph said it looks more than likely now that Buckley will be an assistant at Collingwood.
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what you just figured that out now
This thread about Bucks should be closed permanently. he will NOT ever step foot inside Punt Road doors. EVER.
he is using us as interview experience. he couldnt care less about us. He was made an assistant months ago by Eddie the effhead
He is coming for an interview Daniel. So he will set foot this week. :thumbsup
The more time goes by the more and more I am liking our process. Media is not rating us and the big names like Bucks Mick and Hardwick are still a chance to come to the club due to the process in place and the fact our interview process isn't being played out in the media like North and Collingwood's is. I think we will all be pleasantly surprised as will the mainstream media also.
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Buckley to talk to Tigers this week
Cameron Noakes | July 26, 2009
NORTH Melbourne's tactic of trying to force an answer out of Nathan Buckley about coaching the club next year may have backfired, with Buckley planning to be interviewed for the Richmond coaching job in the next few days.
North wants an answer from the former Collingwood captain before its board meeting at the end of the month, but Buckley says he is still considering five options: coaching Richmond, coaching North, assistant coach at Collingwood, assistant coach at another club or staying in the media. Gold Coast options were not on the agenda
Buckley said he still did not know what 2010 would hold for him, however he missed "football club environments" and wanted to return to one, preferably next year.
Yesterday on 3AW, Buckley was reminded of previous on-air comments that he had made, which seemingly ruled out working as an assistant under Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse: "I reckon if I was going to learn on the job within a coaching role, I would have to go [away from Collingwood] … I basically played under Mick for nine years and I reckon I've gleaned all I can from the way he coaches. If I was to further my coaching aspirations as an assistant coach, I would have to go and learn from someone else."
Buckley did not entirely back away from this position yesterday, but said he was emotionally attached to Collingwood and had spoken to Malthouse about working with him as an assistant.
"[At the meeting last Monday with Mick] we were talking about the prospect of assisting coaching at Collingwood and that's part of the consideration that I'm going through," he said. "[But] quite frankly, the alternatives are great at the minute and that's why I have to go through [the process] and you let things run their course until you find the choice you want."
Buckley confirmed he was meeting Richmond during the week, confirmed he would meet with North again and confirmed he met with Malthouse (and that meeting, he believed, had been arranged by Collingwood officials).
He said he hoped North Melbourne would not rule a line through his name because he was to be interviewed about the Richmond position and the club was aware this was his intention.
"I'm involved in both their processes [Richmond and North] and I go along the path," he said on 3AW.
North Melbourne president James Brayshaw said last week: "We've got a board meeting at the end of the month. We don't want to waste any more time … If Nathan doesn't want to coach senior footy, and that's absolutely fine, that's entirely up to him."
Richmond president Gary March said interviews had already started for the Richmond job so he assumed Buckley's meeting was an official interview, rather than a casual chat.
March said he would only become involved when the candidates were shortlisted so he was uncertain what day Buckley's interview would take place.
Richmond general manager Craig Cameron did not return calls.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/buckley-to-talk-to-tigers-this-week/2009/07/25/1248457706058.html
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North Melbourne set for Buckley fizzer
Damian Barret, Glenn McFarlane and Jackie Epstein | July 26, 2009
NORTH Melbourne says Nathan Buckley will miss the opportunity of a lifetime if he rejects its offer to coach the club. The Roos have given Buckley until close of business tomorrow to accept their deal.
North president James Brayshaw said yesterday the offer, put to Buckley two weeks ago, was enormously tempting.
"We think it's the opportunity of a lifetime," Brayshaw said on Triple M.
"I think it's the most unbelievable opportunity for a bloke to come in with the blankest canvas and just paint a masterpiece. But this is a person who has very strong emotional ties elsewhere and he may find them hard to sever.
"If you've given someone of the integrity of Nathan Buckley that time frame and the information and he comes back in a month's time and says, 'I can't give you an answer', to me that's as good as saying, 'I'm not interested'. If he was, he would tell you by then."
While Brayshaw and North officials remain hopeful of a "yes" from Buckley, they are not confident and yesterday were not prepared to speculate.
As reported in the Herald Sun this week, Buckley is favoured to choose an assistant coaching position beneath Mick Malthouse at Collingwood over the North offer.
Richmond also is interested in Buckley, and will this week meet with him as part of an extensive process to find a new head coach.
Buckley, though, has given the Tigers' situation only scant attention compared with his dealings with Collingwood and North.
Buckley admitted yesterday he had five potential options to consider, including staying involved in the media, and had followed the reports on his relationship with Malthouse.
"I've been interested with the discussion about our supposed frosty relationship and it's never been as bad as people suggest," Buckley said yesterday on 3AW.
"I don't see it that way (that I'm a successor), if that's how Mick feels I'm sure he'll let me know.
"(On Monday) we were talking about the prospect of assistant coaching at Collingwood and that's part of the process I'm going through.
"North know where I stand with that (regarding a decision to be made tomorrow)."
North Melbourne has a board meeting on Wednesday and a new approach to find a senior coach will be taken if Buckley rules himself out of the running.
"While we'd be disappointed because we think Nathan's got a lot to offer, two nights later a full strategy will be rolled out and we'll get stuck straight into it," Brayshaw said.
Malthouse remains unsigned for next year. On Friday he led the Magpies to their eighth win from the past nine matches, with an easy victory against Carlton at the MCG.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25834995-19742,00.html
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Barretts crying in his own milk lol
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Funny how he says Buckley has paid Richmond scant attention compared to Collingwood & North Melbourne when we only start our interview process this week. North has offered him a senior coaching job and has Collingwood has offered him an assistants job and has had interviews and meetings to discuss these offers. We haven't offered him anything yet, so why would he pay us that much attention when we haven't even had formal discussions yet?
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Funny how he says Buckley has paid Richmond scant attention compared to Collingwood & North Melbourne when we only start our interview process this week. North has offered him a senior coaching job and has Collingwood has offered him an assistants job and has had interviews and meetings to discuss these offers. We haven't offered him anything yet, so why would he pay us that much attention when we haven't even had formal discussions yet?
As I understand it we have had a brief discussion with Buckley to see if he is at all interested, to which he replied, "Sure, I'll consider your coaching position along with anything else that comes up". To which we replied, "Great. We're going to start our first round interviews in a few weeks, we'll be in touch to make a time closer to the date."
I'm with you Infamy. What on earth would Buckley be paying attention to? He'd be considering our list and would be deciding what he would do if he was offered and took our job. He'd be working out what he would want to say in the interview and what he wants to ask us. Apart from that he hasn't got much to consider. Neither do we for that matter.
It's laughable how North are absolutely desperate to have him all signed sealed and delivered before he gets a chance to talk to us. Are they really that scared of what we can offer? Are they really that badly off they they don't believe they compare with the perennial cellar dwellers of the competition with the dodgy rep?
Why would Kennett say it is damaging his brand not to give a definite decision to either us or North? We haven't asked him and quite frankly we don't want an answer yet.
Buckley: "I've decided I'm going to coach Richmond next year."
RFC: "Umm. Gee that's great Nathan, but we've got a few more people to interview and have some really strong candidates. If you make it through to the second round we'll certainly keep your enthusiasm in mind."
Buckley: "Awww geez. Now I feel a bit stupid."
I think Kennett might be a little out of touch on this matter.
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Caro just said it's a 90% chance we'll know about Malthouse and Bucks teaming up by the end of the week. We'll definitely know about Mick's situation by then. Richmond could abandon their process and chase hard after Malthouse or Bucks but they have said they will stick to their process.
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It's a SEN rumour from a txt message so it's most likely garbage but the txt said March and Buckley were out seen having coffee together today
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EXCLUSIVE: NATHAN Buckley is believed to have told North Melbourne he won't be taking its coaching job.
Buckley is understood to have advised the Roos of his decision this morning.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25841282-19742,00.html
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Surprise Surprise.
I just love the fact the media aren't rating us and our chances of us getting him.
Bucks would never have gone to a club with such poor finances, status, prestige and popularity. Club is characterless and they need a characterless coach.
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If he does go to Collingwood as Mick's assistant half the fun will be watching the Pies self destruct off the field with the size of Mick's and Nathan's egos.
Eddie sure likes to have his cake and eat it too.
Mr McGuire how do you take your coffee? One lump or two?
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If he does go to Collingwood as Mick's assistant half the fun will be watching the Pies self destruct off the field with the size of Mick's and Nathan's egos.
Eddie sure likes to have his cake and eat it too.
Mr McGuire how do you take your coffee? One lump or two?
I completely agree. If Bucks went to Collingwood the pressure on Malthouse would be immense. He would be continously paranoid and rightly so considering Buckley's overflated reputation at the club and ambition. I can't see Mick allowing this to happen - he would jump first....and we would be waiting to catch him :-* :lol
Stripes
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North played their cards early and went bust lol.
Even John Longmire is looking unlikely. They'll end up with a has-been or David King.
Can't be long before they are wound up or moved on.
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Mike Sheahan has said the Roos offered Buckley $2.8m over 4 years but Bucks turned them down this morning.
Craig Kelly (Bucks' manager) replied "no comment" when asked whether Bucks has said no to North,
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For those that don't watch TFS, will be worth watching just to see Brayshaw squirm ! He's gunna cop it.
Lol@ epic failure :rollin
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For those that don't watch TFS, will be worth watching just to see Brayshaw squirm ! He's gunna cop it.
Lol@ epic failure :rollin
It will be brief. Gary is too gutless and toes too many party lines to not be controversial and offend anyone. Brayshaw will put that Gary on a stretcher skit in reply. It will be farcical. On the couch tonight on Foxtel will be good.
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Clashes with GNW
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Bucks on 3aw said he is sticking to not responding to speculation. He is meeting North tonight.
Dwayne asked Bucks if he liked what he saw yesterday at the MCG from Richmond. Bucks said yes he was. Impressed by our speed and youth. He said Cotch and Lids were exciting when they play like that. A couple of good young forwards in Riewoldt and Post too.
Dwayne said Bucks wouldn't be talking to Richmond this week if he was going to say yes to North tonight. Healy replied you're a very logical man Dwayne.
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According to Channel 9 news at 6pm
Collingwood board meeting tonight that will rubber stamp Buckley going to the Skunks as an assistant coach.
Press conference to announce it to be alledgedly held tomorrow.
Conflicting stories indeed OE.
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Forgot to add that Bucks said he is meeting with Richmond on Thursday.
Odd that he would be meeting us on Thursday if he has already signed with the Pies and it'll be announced tomorrow ???
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If there is a loud noise in Melbourne tonight it is probably Bucks' enormous ego bursting.
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Russell just pushed Bucks again on 3aw to respond to whether he's making an announcement tomorrow or not about his future. Bucks just played deadpan and continued his line of not responding to speculation.
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It is at the stage where the care factor is ............
ZERO
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Russell just pushed Bucks again on 3aw to respond to whether he's making an announcement tomorrow or not about his future. Bucks just played deadpan and continued his line of not responding to speculation.
Maybe he has accepted the Collingwood job with a clause that stipulates if he is offered a senior coaching job elsewhere within the 2 years he can actively pursue it and break away much like Voss when he accepted the Brissy job after signing with the Eagles as an assistant.
Hence the hooplah for the Pies may be short lived because if he is the successful candidate in our process he won't have even have had one look in anger at the Collingwood list before he comes to Tigerland or elsewhere for that matter before 2011.
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LOL Walls tonight being surprised Buckley sees the Richmond job ahead of North's to reject North first. North aren't the only ones with egg on their faces. Walls, Cometti and other journos bagging us before tonight saying who would want to go to Richmond can join the omelette club.
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Nathan Buckley says no to North Melbourne
Staff reporters | July 27, 2009 6.27pm
NATHAN Buckley is reportedly on the verge of signing a two-year deal to be an assistant coach with Collingwood.
Channel Nine is reporting the deal could be formally announced as soon as tomorrow.
The Collingwood Football Club board is meeting tonight to finalise the deal which would see him return to the club he captained under coach Mick Malthouse.
But Buckley said on radio station 3AW he would be talking to Richmond later this week. Asked if he was going to meet with the Tigers, he said:
"Yep, you go through the first step first and then you worry about the next step after that," Buckley said.
"I thought (the Tigers') youth and their speed (and) was pretty excited. When Cotchin and Deledio play as well as they did, and they are up and running and you see a couple of young forwards in Riewoldt and Post so early in their careers, it's a great sign."
Buckley also admited he is still in discussions with Collingwood, saying he had kept an open mind all year.
"Obviously (the Magpies are) a consideration, it's an ongoing process," he said.
"It's been an option right along and it's not one I have discounted at any stage. It's one others have discounted for me. I have kept an open mind throughout the whole year."
Mike Sheahan revealed on the Herald Sun website today that Buckley had turned down an offer to coach the North Melbourne Football Club.
Buckley said he would be talking to the Kangaroos tonight.
"I will be speaking to North Melbourne this evening. I haven't been responding to speculation through the whole process and I won't be now. I reckon the real North Melbourne story today is Adam Simpson," he said.
Neither North Melbourne chairman James Brayshaw nor chief executive Eugene Arocca could be reached this afternoon.
The Roos had told Buckley he had first call on the job vacated recently by Dean Laidley. They are believed to have offered him $2.8m for four years.
North now will spread the net in search of its next coach.
Former players John Longmire and David King are expected to be candidates, while Hawthorn assistant and former Essendon and Port Adelaide premiership player Damien Hardwick is expected to attract keen interest.
Neither Buckley nor manager Craig Kelly could be reached for comment.
-Reporting by Mike Sheahan, Jon Ralph, Finn Bradshaw
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25841282-19742,00.html
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Bucks when asked on 3aw if he watched our game said we were exciting and quick and was particurly impressed by Jayden Post.
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Well it's official....
Buckley declines offer to coach North Melbourne
By Ben Broad 9:19 PM Mon 27 July, 2009
NORTH Melbourne confirmed late on Monday night that Nathan Buckley had declined its offer to become the club’s next senior coach.
North had met Buckley and his management several times over the past month and had given the former Collingwood champion until Monday to make his decision.
But the Kangaroos have confirmed that the Brownlow Medallist would not be pursuing the senior coaching role.
Instead, he is likely to pursue one of a host of other options still open to him, including staying on in the media.
Later this week Buckley, who is intent on entering a coaching career in the future, is set to meet Richmond regarding its senior coaching position.
However many will see his decision to turn down the Roos as a pre-cursor to him accepting an assistant coaching role at his former club, Collingwood.
Buckley has been tipped to join the Magpies’ coaching panel as part of a succession plan to one day take over from current coach, Mick Malthouse.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/81509/default.aspx
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Hutchy and Caro stating that Collingwood has asked all the players to a media conference tomorrow. They speculate that Bucks will be announced as an Assistant coach but I think they are wrong. I'm guessing that the announcement will be that Mick's contract has been extended.
Looking forward to hearing what the next installment of this will be ::)
Stripes
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Hutchy and Caro stating that Collingwood has asked all the players to a media conference tomorrow. They speculate that Bucks will be announced as an Assistant coach but I think they are wrong. I'm guessing that the announcement will be that Mick's contract has been extended.
Looking forward to hearing what the next installment of this will be ::)
Stripes
We must have heard differently. They were discussing the topics side by side and as far as I heard they said the announcement tomorrow will be Malthouse re-signing, not Bucks.
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i think you will find MM will sitting put. :rollin
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Tony Jones on the late Ch 9 news just said it's expected Buckley will rejoin the Pies now that he has rejected North and it's Collingwood's "wish" ::) for Buckley to be announced as their assistant coach tomorrow morning (Tuesday). Buckley has murkied the waters by agreeing to talk to Richmond later in the week.
So still nothing definite yet.
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Buckley seems to be a process type person, the perfectionist in him is coming out, his ego is telling him, do the Richmond process, beat the other candidates. In the end though itll come down to logic or ego or both, anyway, North supporters have had there notions of being a great club slammed, the shinboner spirit club is nothing more than a crap club that cant compete with big clubs. Thats why they are the first ones chucked out by Buckley.
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everyone rates buckley for every reason other than the necessary one - his coaching ability.
lmao@ Paying this dog top dollar - how richmond,indeed. :wallywink
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everyone rates buckley for every reason other than the necessary one - his coaching ability.
lmao@ Paying this dog top dollar - how richmond,indeed. :wallywink
I dont rate Buckley as high as I rate someone like Hardwick. Id rather pay Hardwick 1/2 the cost of Buckley and put the rest into more development coaches than to appoint Buckley.
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Interesting times ahead now one would think, I still see Hardwick as our man or Hinkley, other than that we will be either dumbfounded or surprised at the decision.
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Pies close on dream double
Jake Niall and Caroline Wilson | The Age | July 28, 2009
COLLINGWOOD players will today learn that Mick Malthouse has been re-appointed as senior coach of the club until the end of 2011, and the Magpies appear to have secured his former captain Nathan Buckley as a senior assistant for the same two-year term.
Collingwood’s players have been summoned to a meeting at 9.30am today, when the club will tell them that Malthouse has been re-appointed for 2010 and 2011.
Buckley last night officially knocked back a generous long-term offer to be senior coach of the Kangaroos, who believe the ex-champion will join Malthouse as his assistant and presumed coach in waiting.
Last night’s Collingwood board meeting broke up with club insiders hopeful the Magpies could announce a Malthouse-Buckley alliance until the end of 2011, with Buckley expected to take over the reins when Malthouse finishes.
Late last night, Buckley had not notified Richmond of any intention to cancel a scheduled interview for the Tigers’ coaching job. The interview was to have been held in the next 24 hours.
When scrutinised on 3AW last night, Buckley said he expected to talk to Richmond ‘‘at this stage’’.
The re-signing of Malthouse removes the former Richmond premiership player from calculations at Tigerland, where he may have entered the picture if he was not secured by Collingwood; the Tigers are determined to stick to the process laid out last month, which will not be completed for some weeks.
Full story at:
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/pies-close-on-dream-double/2009/07/27/1248546678369.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Pull of the Magpies proves too much for Buckley to resist
Stephen Rielly | July 28, 2009 | The Australian
Buckley, who had been openly and aggressively courted by North with a four-year, $2.8million offer, informed the club yesterday of his decision to take instead his first coaching step as an assistant, back in the familiar black and white.
Similarly, Richmond, which had also been talking to Buckley about its senior coaching position and was scheduled to meet him this week, was hearing last night that the 2003 Brownlow medallist had accepted the offer to join Mick Malthouse, an arrangement constructed and seemingly consummated by president Eddie McGuire, not Malthouse. "Hopefully we'll have something to announce shortly," McGuire said yesterday.
The Tigers had not received official notice from Buckley, however, who said last night on Melbourne radio that he would be speaking with them in the next couple of days.
He spoke enthusiastically of their future, in light of Sunday's victory over Essendon, but also of the pull of Collingwood which North sources indicated yesterday had been decisive.
"I thought (the Tigers') youth and their speed was pretty exciting. When (Trent) Cotchin and (Brett) Deledio play as well as they did, and they are up and running and you see a couple of young forwards in (Jack) Riewoldt and (Jayden) Post so early in their careers, it's a great sign," Buckley said.
"Obviously (the Magpies are) a consideration, it's an ongoing process. It's been an option right along and it's not one I have discounted at any stage. It's one others have discounted for me. I have kept an open mind throughout the whole year."
Scott and Hardwick are also on Richmond's list, with both scheduled to be interviewed by the Tigers this week. As was Buckley, who had said on the weekend that he was considering five options; senior opportunities at North and Richmond, assistant coaching roles at Collingwood and elsewhere or another year in the media.
Full article at:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25844755-5013406,00.html
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Magpie's dream team - Michael Malthouse and Nathan Buckley .......... oh please with the joke of a headline Mike :chuck
Mike Sheahan | Herald-Sun | July 28, 2009
Despite the widespread expectation of a Malthouse-Buckley reunion, Buckley and Richmond continue to talk as if he will participate in its coaching process.
He confirmed a meeting last night and said: "You go through the first step first and then you worry about the next step after that."
Buckley said he had been excited by what he saw from the Tigers in their win over Essendon on Sunday.
Richmond's head of football, Craig Cameron, said last night: "As far as I'm aware, we're still meeting with Nathan later in the week.
"We're expecting to have a chat with him to see if that's the path he wants to go down.
"There's no tokenism on our side."
Full article at:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25843915-661,00.html
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N Buckley has certainly shown his mettle by taking the soft option
What a relief :rollin
everyone rates buckley for every reason other than the necessary one - his coaching ability.
Totally agree []())([].
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Richmond should cancel the meeting with Nathan Buckley cause his got intentions of wanting to be at Richmond ever.
A person offered a senior AFL coaching position would jump on it as there are many 10+ year better assistant coaches out there waiting to just grasp any senior coaching job offered to them.
They know how hard it is to break the barrier.
Buckley is wasting everyones time & just finding out whats going on inside other clubs so to help Collingwood get ahead.
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buckley always was an outside player
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Buckley rejects Tigers, embraces Pies
Nathan Buckley has cancelled an interview with Richmond scheduled for later today, and he will be named as Mick Malthouse's senior assistant coach this morning at a press conference at the Lexus Centre at 11am.
More....
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/07/28/1248546707681.html
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tick tick Tick Tick TIck TIck TICk TICk TICK TICK 'BOOM"!!! :lol :cheers
Pagan is 100% right - 'I've never seen to bulls in a paddock work'. Regardless of whether Bucks is on the other side of the world or not for half the season, he will now be seen as the coach in waiting by the media, supporters, administration and most importantly - players which can not help but have a destablizing effect pf the club and in particular Mick Malthouse.
Players will start to go to Bucks over issues, admin will speak to him about any future plans/decisions they have, coaching staff will look to him for leadership. Basically Mick has handed over a great deal of respect and authority to Bucks and regardless of what Eddie or the club say this is an untenable situation which Mick will not last in.
I would have rathered Bucks gone through our process but having him destroy Collingwood is even better :santa
Stripes
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Buckley rejects Tigers, embraces Pies
Nathan Buckley has cancelled an interview with Richmond scheduled for later today, and he will be named as Mick Malthouse's senior assistant coach this morning at a press conference at the Lexus Centre at 11am.
More....
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/07/28/1248546707681.html
Good result for us. The media and other clubs will start to put wedges into the collingwood relationships as soon as things start to go pear shaped for mick. Even better is that Malthouse will stay on for 3 years as director of coaching after Buckley gets the gig at Collingwood lol.
I want Hardwick to get the gig at our club anyway.
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buckley always was an outside player
Kellaway & Rogers had him always covered like a glove ;D
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Buckley rejects Tigers, embraces Pies
Nathan Buckley has cancelled an interview with Richmond scheduled for later today, and he will be named as Mick Malthouse's senior assistant coach this morning at a press conference at the Lexus Centre at 11am.
More....
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/07/28/1248546707681.html
Good result for us. The media and other clubs will start to put wedges into the collingwood relationships as soon as things start to go pear shaped for mick. Even better is that Malthouse will stay on for 3 years as director of coaching after Buckley gets the gig at Collingwood lol.
I want Hardwick to get the gig at our club anyway.
Leon Cameron ;D :shh
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Imagine if they announce Buckley as Coach for next season and Malthouse doesnt get a contract extension :birthday :o
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Imagine if they announce Buckley as Coach for next season and Malthouse doesnt get a contract extension :birthday :o
Funny if malthouse told them to Jam it & coaches Richmond but that wont happen next year
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Buckley rejects Tigers, embraces Pies
Nathan Buckley has cancelled an interview with Richmond scheduled for later today, and he will be named as Mick Malthouse's senior assistant coach this morning at a press conference at the Lexus Centre at 11am.
More....
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/07/28/1248546707681.html
:cheers :cheers :cheers :rollin :rollin :rollin :clapping :clapping
That is fantastic, this means he does not get to step foot in the joint and waste our time.
:cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers :rollin :rollin :rollin :santa :santa :santa
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5 year deals.....
Didn't another club make a mistake handing out 5 year deals? :rollin
Even if Buckley can't coach, Malthouse will be pulling his puppet strings for 3 years.
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No its official from the press conference at 11 on SEN
Mick 2010-11 contract extension
Buckley 2010-11 assistant coach
2012-14 Mick Director of Coaching
2012-14 Buckley senior coach.
Now we can go back to bagging Mick and Buckley relentlessly knowing that they want to stay as Skunks.
Hardwick is the man. Plain and Simple. Most standout candidate.
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They deserve each other
Must be paying Mick heaps to let this little scenario happen
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Buckley rejects Tigers, embraces Pies
Nathan Buckley has cancelled an interview with Richmond scheduled for later today, and he will be named as Mick Malthouse's senior assistant coach this morning at a press conference at the Lexus Centre at 11am.
More....
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/07/28/1248546707681.html
Good result for us. The media and other clubs will start to put wedges into the collingwood relationships as soon as things start to go pear shaped for mick. Even better is that Malthouse will stay on for 3 years as director of coaching after Buckley gets the gig at Collingwood lol.
I want Hardwick to get the gig at our club anyway.
Leon Cameron ;D :shh
Leon has the same problem as Jade for mine. Needs to show he can be part of a successful premiership group. I dont think hes shown that yet.
As for Jade, Jade if he misses out should be given a full time job as development manager at Richmond. The kids seem to respond to him and that Position seems a good fit for Jade.
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If Collingwood start losing games we should all start ringing up talkback claiming to be Collingwood supporters asking for Buckley to replace Malthouse immediately. This is gonna be outstanding comedy over the next 12 to 18 months.
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u dont need to be part of a premiership team to be a good coach
look at paul roos and ross lyon
btw
can you believe the tripe both malthouse and buckley were saying, they are not footballers or coaches , they are politicians.
and we thought sheedy and wallacer were the kings of spin
buckley is a scared wimp
and mick is full of his own poo
i would take jade over these guys any day, at least jade talks straight and tells it as it is
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If Collingwood start losing games we should all start ringing up talkback claiming to be Collingwood supporters asking for Buckley to replace Malthouse immediately. This is gonna be outstanding comedy over the next 12 to 18 months.
I wonder how Brad Scott, Caracella, Hudson and the other assistants feel about having no chance of coaching Collingwood. Could be a recipe for disaster.
Nonetheless interesting to see how this director of coaching thing works out. We would have done the same thing if we opted for Sheedy I think.
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I would LOVE LOVE LOVE if this move was Eddie's legacy to Collingwood and it made them implode
His moves of late haven't paid off that well lately, I hope this is the worst of all
Sounds like an untenable situation to me
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If Collingwood start losing games we should all start ringing up talkback claiming to be Collingwood supporters asking for Buckley to replace Malthouse immediately. This is gonna be outstanding comedy over the next 12 to 18 months.
I wonder how Brad Scott, Caracella, Hudson and the other assistants feel about having no chance of coaching Collingwood. Could be a recipe for disaster.
Nonetheless interesting to see how this director of coaching thing works out. We would have done the same thing if we opted for Sheedy I think.
Thats good
Hudson is a good coach
l would have him at Richmond anyday coaching
His good with getting everything out of players
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If Collingwood start losing games we should all start ringing up talkback claiming to be Collingwood supporters asking for Buckley to replace Malthouse immediately. This is gonna be outstanding comedy over the next 12 to 18 months.
:bow :lol
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I wonder how Brad Scott, Caracella, Hudson and the other assistants feel about having no chance of coaching Collingwood. Could be a recipe for disaster.
Nonetheless interesting to see how this director of coaching thing works out. We would have done the same thing if we opted for Sheedy I think.
Laidley would be a good director of coaching.....
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Laidley would actually but we are not going down that path and nor should we. It takes two extremely tolerant coaches with small egos, an exception relationship with complimentry strengths and weaknesses for something such as what the Pies are attempting. I heard Brittian interviewed once about when he worked with a similiar role with (I have drawn a blank) and he said it worked for all the above reasons and because they were such different coaches and people.
Now looking at Mick and Bucks you could not seeing such a partnership work. If they sent Bucks away for a couple of years and just put him on ice it may but then where would he gain his experience and education from?
When Bucks and Malthouse coached together for the International rules most reports had them at loggerheads and attempting to outdo each other in terms of authority and leadership the whole trip. I'm sure everything will be all rosey and sugarcoated initially with media reports heralding the move a great success at the start of next year but after this, once the pressure mounts, look for the cracks.
In 2011, with the handover period looming, this is when the leadership decisions will start to overlap with Bucks attempting to prepare for the future and Mick working for the moment. With Mick not actually stepping aside but rather up in 2012 this will be when the best action will occur.
This is going to be the undoing of the Pies and I'm going to love every minute of it! :thumbsup :birthday
Stripes
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well i did think that buckley would be good for our side, but given this decision im glad he misses out. this looks like a pretty soft and easy way out for him but i only hope this takes the light of us for the next few years while the tiger army swells to become a genuine super power club!! interesting to note mark robinsons opinion in a hearld sun live blog on the richmond coaching scene atm:
"12:12 Jade is not a lock for Richmond, but he is going pretty well. The players seem to like him, and enjoy playign under his style.. That said, 12 peope applying for the job... word is hardwick is a strong contender"
i think hardwick is the man for the main role though i believe jade should be kept on in a developmental position.
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Nathan Buckley has taken the very very soft option at Collingwood and I believe will lose some respect form the general footy public.
Sounds like an extremely comfy lovey dovey position for both of them but if they dont do well in the next couple of years then watch this space.....
I personally didnt want Buckley coaching Richmond and am glad to have a look at:
Brad Scott, big smokey
Damien Hardwick, good option
Jade, has done nothing wrong except win too many games....
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If Collingwood start losing games we should all start ringing up talkback claiming to be Collingwood supporters asking for Buckley to replace Malthouse immediately. This is gonna be outstanding comedy over the next 12 to 18 months.
To the point that the radio presenters will be making comments that these Pies fans sound like Richmond fans. :lol :rollin :lol
Bucks took the easy option. I guess noone caters to his ego more than Eddie. :lol :rollin :lol
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How funny is this....
We get mocked for doing a 180 backflip over Cousins....Now Buckley has done the same thing.
Very Very Soft option by Buckley.Too scared to put his d__k on the line.
Cant wait for the DEADMAN WALKING headlines now with regards to Mick.
Buckley you are nothing but a big fish in a small lexus centre pond
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(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2009/07/28/wbAFLmaltbpress2_wideweb__470x303,0.jpg)
I think this photo says it all really
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great post Infamy
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That photo says to me that MM still thinks about the Tiges sometimes.
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:ROTFL well done Infamy
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Buckley on 3aw tonight said he didn't think he was ready to go to another club as a senior coach. Voss' situation was different as he went back to a club he knew intimately. He loves Collingwood and the offer was just too good.
He doesn't know Malthouse's contractual situation after the first 2 years and whether there's an out clause if he gets a senior coaching offer elsewhere.
On Ch 7, Bucks said he only came to his final decision on Sunday. He had planned to meet with Craig Cameron at 10am this morning but of course cancelled it.
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i heard last night the numbers that collingwood supposedly paying to keep them both. Mick Malthouse has done a ripper deal imho. Good luck to him. Rumour is Buckley $400-450k for the next 2 years then he becomes senior coach, Malthouse already on $800k and I got the impression that he will continue to be very well paid after he moves into director of coaching role. Pies are burning money- probably not a smart venture after there pubs fiasco.
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i heard last night the numbers that collingwood supposedly paying to keep them both. Mick Malthouse has done a ripper deal imho. Good luck to him. Rumour is Buckley $400-450k for the next 2 years then he becomes senior coach, Malthouse already on $800k and I got the impression that he will continue to be very well paid after he moves into director of coaching role. Pies are burning money- probably not a smart venture after there pubs fiasco.
Mick's on $900k. Not a bad earner for him for the next 5 years. As for paying any assistant coach $450k :o. No wonder the Roos needed to throw offers of $800k Bucks way to make him even think about them. The Pies have more money than sense. This comes across as Eddie's grand fantasy rather than club policy. I wonder if the other members of the Collingwood Board had much say Monday night given the deal was done on the weekend. Let's hope they implode big time and screw themselves :pray. By 2012 Presti will be 34, O'Bree 33, Lockyer 32, Leon Davis and Ben Johnson 31, Fraser and Medhurst 30, Didak 29 and Swan 28. Good Luck Bucks taking the "safe" option ;).
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Good Luck Bucks taking the "safe" option ;).
We all know what happened last time he did that!
"I want to go to team that can win a flag"
:lol :lol :lol
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He was drafted to North as well before the AFL made that defunct.
So he could have won flags at Arden St in 1996 and 99 as well.
Would love to see him coach at the Pies till the 20's without a flag while we more than a few along the way and the Roos win one too. Against Collingwood would be sweeter also and worth the wait too. :thumbsup
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By 2012 our list will be starting to peak yet the Pies will be going into rebuild mode by their own admission when Bucks starts. North's list will probably be ahead of the Pies as well. Oh well his problem in 2.5 years time.
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Gavin Brown has seen the writing on the wall at Pieland and may be moving on. North are now chasing after him.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/buckley-in-8212-brown-to-go/2009/07/31/1248977194375.html
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Yep, here we go. Why would you bother assisting at a club that you have no hope of having a significant influence at or working towards impressing for the senior position in the future?
Correct call Gavin Brown.
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Yep, here we go. Why would you bother assisting at a club that you have no hope of having a significant influence at or working towards impressing for the senior position in the future?
Correct call Gavin Brown.
any collingwood assistant who has any pride at all would quit.
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If you were Gavin Brown - couldn't help thinking it was a clique that was at the press conference.
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Mick's left the door ajar slightly to walk after his first two years if another senior position becomes available
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25878026-19742,00.html
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i really can't wait to watch the pies go down the toilet for the next 10 years with bad finances costly staff aging list poor draft picks etc etc.
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Who cares anymore ? Who cared in the first place ? Moving right along :D