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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: H Tiger on October 12, 2004, 06:40:31 PM

Title: Draft teaser
Post by: H Tiger on October 12, 2004, 06:40:31 PM
The general feeling seems to be that we will pick Deledio No1...... then we take Franklin or Roughead 4. I think the latter......

But what if Franklin/Roughead goes earlier? do we go for a the next kkp at 4 (as we do need one) or take Griffen/Trambling?

Best availible or kkp?
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2004, 06:49:33 PM
The other dilemma is will we pick a ruckman at #4 because Wood, Deluca and Meesen may nto be around at pick 12?

IMO with 5 picks in the top 20 we should definitely follow "best available". If we got both Deledio and Griffen with picks 1 and 4, I'd reckon we'd be more than happy.
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: disco08 on October 12, 2004, 07:12:57 PM
HT, I'd definitely say best available. Ideally I'd like to see Deledio/Griffen at 1 and Roughead at 4. Hopefully 12 can get us Monfries, Eckermann or Lewis, and 16 a KPP or ruckman.

If Franklin and Roughead are gone by 4, we'd most likely have a choice between Griffen and Tambling at 4, which is still a good situation. We could then use 12 to get Willits, Kirkby or Grundy.
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: Bulluss on October 12, 2004, 08:04:10 PM
i believe that if Tambling is still around at 4 he will definately be in the tigers colours

Wallace really likes him
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: Harry on October 13, 2004, 10:45:33 AM
It's pretty simple for us.

Deledio at 1, then whoever is left from Tambling Griffen and Franklin at 4.  (Hope its Griffen).  By all accounts Roughead isn't in the same class as these 3.

If we get 2 on-ballers with 1 and 4, we then go for a KPP at 12 or 16 (Willets, Kirkby, Grundy).  We then go for a ruck at 20(Meesen, Maric).  Do not recruit a ruckman before 20 as they are very hit and miss and are not as valuable as a top on-baller or CHF.  When's the last time an all aust ruckman was a premiership player in the same year ?  never.  Ruckmen are overated.  We've got Simmonds, Hall and Stafford.  We just recruit 1 with a late pick.

Unless we get McIntosh in the PSD.  If we do then don't worry about another ruckman - probably only rookie list one.

No way should we draft Wood at 4.  This would be suicidal.
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: Disco on October 13, 2004, 11:27:43 AM
Spot on HH, cant see the point in going for a ruckman early.

Lets get the draft over and done with, lm sure the season ahead will have some pleasant surprises install for all at Tigerland! :thumbsup
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: om21 on October 13, 2004, 12:36:10 PM
after watching 5 years of the worst and slowest football ever.....I think we have to get Tambling.....its an absolute must.
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: mightytiges on October 13, 2004, 03:34:48 PM
Although we could do with a couple of guys with pace, IMHO the main reason for us being so slow was us zig-zagging all over the place over-possessing the footy and stop-starting with every mark or free kick. If there's one area we can improve on without needing to worry about adding skill or speed is for Wallace to drill into our blokes to hurry up moving the ball and don't take ten years to get back behind the mark allowing our free players to be manned up..
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: JohnF on October 13, 2004, 03:49:02 PM
Although we could do with a couple of guys with pace, IMHO the main reason for us being so slow was us zig-zagging all over the place over-possessing the footy and stop-starting with every mark or free kick. If there's one area we can improve on without needing to worry about adding skill or speed is for Wallace to drill into our blokes to hurry up moving the ball and don't take ten years to get back behind the mark allowing our free players to be manned up..

Moving the ball hurriedly is a great ploy to use when you are confident that your players can win contested one on one situations. Sadly we lack the confidence and the players to be able to do that.
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 13, 2004, 04:37:57 PM
IMHO the main reason for us being so slow was us zig-zagging all over the place over-possessing the footy and stop-starting with every mark or free kick.

Now that's what I call a game plan  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin...er...........................NOT ;D
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: mightytiges on October 14, 2004, 03:21:02 AM
Moving the ball hurriedly is a great ploy to use when you are confident that your players can win contested one on one situations. Sadly we lack the confidence and the players to be able to do that.

Lacked confidence in the coaching staff as well  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: Tiger Spirit on October 14, 2004, 03:46:25 PM
Although we could do with a couple of guys with pace, IMHO the main reason for us being so slow was us zig-zagging all over the place over-possessing the footy and stop-starting with every mark or free kick. If there's one area we can improve on without needing to worry about adding skill or speed is for Wallace to drill into our blokes to hurry up moving the ball and don't take ten years to get back behind the mark allowing our free players to be manned up..

Moving the ball hurriedly is a great ploy to use when you are confident that your players can win contested one on one situations. Sadly we lack the confidence and the players to be able to do that.

How true is that?  Developing confidence in the players will make a significant difference.  And, if we’re on the right track, with the players we are recruiting now and the new Coach, then we should notice a real difference in this area over time.

I remember some of the best passages of play we had late in the season (not that there were many to remember  :P) involved the younger players within the team.  Whereas the more experienced players had a tendency to hold up the play, as MT described, causing major frustration and anger in the stands (and especially in the seat I was sitting in). :P


Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: Rodgerramjet on October 14, 2004, 05:39:32 PM
1 Deledio
4 Franklin/Tambling
12 Meeson
16 Lewis
20 God Knows :lol
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: mightytiges on October 14, 2004, 06:00:40 PM
1 Deledio
4 Franklin/Tambling
12 Meeson
16 Lewis

Would be very happy if that happened on draft day.

20 God Knows :lol

Is he any good RR?  :lol

Pick up his brother Who as well  ;D
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: Harry on October 15, 2004, 11:27:08 AM
There is a strong chance that Meesen will be available at 12.  But I don't beleive that Lewis will be there at 16.  I'd like to see us get 3 quality on-ballers at 1,4 and 12 (Deledio, Griffen and Lewis would be great) then go for KPP and ruckmen with the later picks.

Get your midfield right first.  A good midfield can make ordinary rucks and KPP look good, even great.  The opposite cannot be said. 
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: H Tiger on October 15, 2004, 12:38:55 PM
There is a strong chance that Meesen will be available at 12.  But I don't beleive that Lewis will be there at 16.  I'd like to see us get 3 quality on-ballers at 1,4 and 12 (Deledio, Griffen and Lewis would be great) then go for KPP and ruckmen with the later picks.

Get your midfield right first.  A good midfield can make ordinary rucks and KPP look good, even great.  The opposite cannot be said. 

HH you are dead right.

Geelong have a lot more good smalls than good talls and they were top 4 this year.
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: bg25 on October 15, 2004, 01:22:37 PM
Agree with your midfield comments HH. The top four teams all had excellent midfields - all containing goal kicking midfielders as well.
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: mightytiges on October 15, 2004, 02:20:35 PM
The Hawks are saying they're going to pick a midfielder with their first pick (pick 2) then KPP/ruckman with picks #5 and #7. Buckenara reckons the first 3 picks will be midfielders meaning Franklin would be around at #4.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=175134
Title: Re: Draft teaser
Post by: wrennyboy on October 15, 2004, 09:06:27 PM
We gotta hope that the doggies take franklin or roughhead with 3 so we can snare tambling.