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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WA Tiger on August 24, 2009, 10:44:47 PM

Title: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WA Tiger on August 24, 2009, 10:44:47 PM
For a few years now I have been saying all along that regardless of who we pick in the draft that player must be able and capable of pulling the RFC jumper on come round 1.

We have to pick a player that is free from injury and body wise sized enough to come straight in. I think to date Deledio is the only first round player that we have selected who has played round one and please let me know if I got that wrong.

Cotchin, Reiwoldt, and a few others have either been underdeveloped or injured before the start of the season. Is it me or do other clubs manage their first round picks better than us? I mean have a look at Selwood for the Cats.

Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: Danog on August 24, 2009, 10:48:11 PM
Tambling?
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WA Tiger on August 24, 2009, 10:49:49 PM
Tambling?

Thought he played the NAB and that was it, took him a while to get in?? Not sure though.
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: torch on August 24, 2009, 11:15:36 PM
our development is shocking. i saw a lot of Hawthorn's first year players break our weak tackles.

we need to get bigger bodies! it is not hard to see that!
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WA Tiger on August 24, 2009, 11:31:19 PM
our development is shocking. i saw a lot of Hawthorn's first year players break our weak tackles.

we need to get bigger bodies! it is not hard to see that!

Agree 100%, need to get rid of the Polo, JON type players IMO, he may pull and early round pick for us but he will never get any bigger.
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 25, 2009, 07:21:01 AM
As they say on Footy Classified ...

BAD CALL

Whoever our number 1 pick is the play round 1 2010 because they deserve to, not to make supporters feel better

Are you saying that if whoever it is playes terrible all the pre-season, they should be a walk up start for round 1  ???

Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 25, 2009, 07:28:31 AM
As they say on Footy Classified ...

BAD CALL

Whoever our number 1 pick is the play round 1 2010 because they deserve to, not to make supporters feel better

Are you saying that if whoever it is playes terrible all the pre-season, they should be a walk up start for round 1  ???


I agree, you pick players on their abilty to play many seasons, not round 1! I understand the frustrations of a slowly developing list but to smash a kid in round 1 when he is not ready will end him!
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: Infamy on August 25, 2009, 08:27:46 AM
Best available kid who will have the best AFL career
Taking someone who can impact immediately is short sighted and foolish
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: wayne on August 25, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
If we get Butcher he'll need a year on a Stewie Dew diet before he's ready.
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WA Tiger on August 25, 2009, 09:16:49 AM
As they say on Footy Classified ...

BAD CALL

Whoever our number 1 pick is the play round 1 2010 because they deserve to, not to make supporters feel better

Are you saying that if whoever it is playes terrible all the pre-season, they should be a walk up start for round 1  ???



No, I am saying that at pick 3 they should be good enough, fit enough and have the body to play round one, not be small bodied, unfit, carrying injuries etc... we can not afford to pick a player carrying baggage that is what I am saying.
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WA Tiger on August 25, 2009, 09:31:43 AM
Further to my last post, how many more freaking "developing" players do we need that never amount to anything, Patto, JON, Putt, Hughes give me a break.

We need a Rich, Zeibal, Hill etc.. look at Rich, he is better than most 5 year players, that is the player we need not another 10 year project player who will be ready in 5 years have 2 good years and play like crap for the last 3 years.

No more project players, get it right with the first pick we have.
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: Ramps on August 25, 2009, 09:48:55 AM
From the early choices this year I think Scully, Trengove, Morabito are ready to play.
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WA Tiger on August 25, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
From the early choices this year I think Scully, Trengove, Morabito are ready to play.

Well either one of those would be great then.
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: wayne on August 25, 2009, 04:05:05 PM
From the early choices this year I think Scully, Trengove, Morabito are ready to play.

Well either one of those would be great then.

There is a good chance that Scully and Trengove will be Demons.

Morabito has question marks over his kicking.
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: Infamy on August 25, 2009, 06:24:41 PM
From the early choices this year I think Scully, Trengove, Morabito are ready to play.

Well either one of those would be great then.
Very short sighted view
Don't take a project player with an early pick I agree with, but if Kid A will be better than Kid B in 3 years then you take Kid A
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 25, 2009, 07:48:59 PM
No, I am saying that at pick 3 they should be good enough, fit enough and have the body to play round one, not be small bodied, unfit, carrying injuries etc... we can not afford to pick a player carrying baggage that is what I am saying.

Fair enough but I reckon that logic could be frought with danger.

Jack Watts was taken by Melb for a reason with all the top recruiters saying he was always going to go 1, 2 or 3 but he was at the younger end age = 17.

Having watched him in the few games he played he clearly wasn't ready to play and then coupled with that at 17 he was finishing his VCE etc.

Did Melb make a mistake in picking him? Because under your argument they shouldn't have picked him because he wasn't ready to play round 1? Thinking long term they needed key position forwards so they based their pick not on what was going to work in year 1 but would be best for them long term

Add to that Naitanui didn't play round 1 either, firstly because of injury and then they gave him some time the WAFL

I agree with Infamy you cannot take the short term view - we have to think long term

If they are ready and deserve to play round 1 play then but if they don't deserve it they shouldn't play
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WA Tiger on August 25, 2009, 10:04:29 PM
From the early choices this year I think Scully, Trengove, Morabito are ready to play.

Well either one of those would be great then.
Very short sighted view
Don't take a project player with an early pick I agree with, but if Kid A will be better than Kid B in 3 years then you take Kid A

Yes Infamy, but how many times have we picked Kid A and he has not worked out to be better!!
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: Ramps on August 25, 2009, 10:06:53 PM
I forgot Dustin Martin, hes a decent sized mid he could probably play as well. In the end, we just should get the best player irrespective of whether they can play in R1 or R15
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: Infamy on August 25, 2009, 10:13:53 PM
From the early choices this year I think Scully, Trengove, Morabito are ready to play.

Well either one of those would be great then.
Very short sighted view
Don't take a project player with an early pick I agree with, but if Kid A will be better than Kid B in 3 years then you take Kid A

Yes Infamy, but how many times have we picked Kid A and he has not worked out to be better!!
So you're saying pick the developed kid because we are no good at getting the best out of them?
That's a pretty half assed solution if you ask me
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WA Tiger on August 25, 2009, 10:37:30 PM
From the early choices this year I think Scully, Trengove, Morabito are ready to play.

Well either one of those would be great then.
Very short sighted view
Don't take a project player with an early pick I agree with, but if Kid A will be better than Kid B in 3 years then you take Kid A

Yes Infamy, but how many times have we picked Kid A and he has not worked out to be better!!
So you're saying pick the developed kid because we are no good at getting the best out of them?
That's a pretty half assed solution if you ask me

No I am saying pick the developed kid because we can't seem to pick anyone better unless we have pick 1... Daniel Rich, a player like him for round one would be nice.

I am sick of development players that don't develop don't you understand that, I will say it again... Patto, Gus, Petts, Polo, Hughes, Schulz... ra ra ra, please read what I am saying.
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: Infamy on August 25, 2009, 10:47:46 PM
So you're saying we should have taken Palmer instead of Cotchin?
Title: Re: First Pick Must Play Round One
Post by: WA Tiger on August 25, 2009, 10:52:06 PM
So you're saying we should have taken Palmer instead of Cotchin?


Well time will tell on that one, Palmer was way ahead of Cotchin before he wen't down with the knee wouldn't you say?? No I am not saying that but we had better get it right this draft because there is no ware to hide when the 2010 draft comes along. We need ready to go players not project or development players WITH OUR FIRST PICK!!!!!!!!!.