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Competitions / Re: OER's 2024 Tipping Competition - Round 6
« Last post by Andyy on April 18, 2024, 03:26:41 PM »Dockers by 35
Swines by 25
Swines by 25
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Richmond Rant / Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Last post by WilliamPowell on April 18, 2024, 03:22:53 PM »any footage WP?I'm sure there is
Will search once I get away from work
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Richmond Rant / Re: Everything new is old again
« Last post by Hard Roar Tiger on April 18, 2024, 03:22:24 PM »Everyone is an expert in hindsight
We’ll be better in hindsight in 3 years when we are hitting our 3rd bottom 4 finish in a row….
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Competitions / Re: OER's 2024 Tipping Competition - Round 6
« Last post by Fluffy Tiger on April 18, 2024, 02:36:05 PM »Frem by 24
North by 14
North by 14
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Richmond Rant / Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Last post by Francois Jackson on April 18, 2024, 01:46:36 PM »any footage WP?
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Richmond Rant / Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Last post by WilliamPowell on April 18, 2024, 01:04:04 PM »Baker, Dusty and Rioli all leaving means we could have as many as 5 1st round picks this year. Bring on the kids. The new recruiting manager has a big job. Hope he gets it right
They're all leaving based on?
An average news report by Ch10 Brisbane (Rioli). Surprised they knew he was
As for the other 2....wish the media would report was actually said by Cotch. Firstly, not Cotch's finest moment on his new media gig "Talking Footy".. he stumbles, mumbled his way though his answer to a question about whether he believed Dusty and Baker would in different guernseys in 2025.
While getting tongue tied he managed to blurt out in the first instance that he though one of them wouldn't be in Richmlnd collurs.
Then he said maybe both won't be but didn't know, then when Timmy Watson said Dusty he said no Baker because Cotch is hearing whispers the $$$s on offer from the West are massive. He said in his view Dan Rioli won't leave..then he mumbled some more
So here we are.. the media having a field day based on a flip flop answer by our champion ex Captain. As I said not his finest moment
Fun times
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Richmond Rant / Re: Everything new is old again
« Last post by Andyy on April 18, 2024, 12:40:06 PM »Claw you do have a point.
2021 was when we should have realised we were cooked.
2022 trade efforts were a glaring mistake.
I don't blame the club for trying to stay at the top but it looks to have backfired and put us back 2-3 years in a rebuild IMO.
2021 was when we should have realised we were cooked.
2022 trade efforts were a glaring mistake.
I don't blame the club for trying to stay at the top but it looks to have backfired and put us back 2-3 years in a rebuild IMO.
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Richmond Rant / Re: Everything new is old again
« Last post by Chuck17 on April 18, 2024, 12:27:28 PM »Everyone is an expert in hindsight
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Richmond Rant / Re: Everything new is old again
« Last post by the claw on April 18, 2024, 12:23:44 PM »Still think we are struggling now because we failed abysmally to recognise where the list was at. Especially at the end of 2020.
To me 2020 was the last role of the dice and we got lucky and won a flag. It was time to start the transition period instead we kept on trying to pinch another one.
It was the easy route and the dumb one. I actually wanted us to turn over players during the premiership years and i still stand by that.
We had our fair share of ordinary no lets say average players who really needed to be upgraded on. We also lacked severly in player types and to be honest just ignored the problems.
Copped my fair share of abuse for saying this sort of thing while we were winning.
Generally speaking i will take out all players 28 and over, i do this because generally speaking they are short term players and if we do our job right need to be at the very least planning for their replacements.
That to me is just plain common sense you are planning and drafting the same types who will be retiring in the not too distant future.
We imo have tended to draft after they have retired. Or if we have drafted before its been a token pick with not a lot expenditure.
That has always been my thinking. But we actually ignored their age and the lack of numbers and just how many were our best players. We mostly ignored what types they were and we ignored the need.
We went down the lets eke out another premiership path that we should never have gone down.It was ah well lets not draft that type a f/a or we can trade for one if need be approach was adopted.
That approach actually ignored where we got the majority of our better dynasty players from.
At the end of 2020 look what was left after you took out the 28 plus year old players. It left around 30 players, 17 who would be gone by the start of this year. Thats most of the younger core gone anyway.
Of the remaining players i would say there are just 7 you could call B plus grade players. leaving another 6 who would not be greatly missed if they were not there imo. Outside 0f the great 28 plus year olds we had, we had just 7 players to build from in 2020 imo..
What was left on the list after you took out the 28 plus year olds was of real concern. Many were talking about it. Its hard to win any footy debate though when you have just won a premiership.
Not only did we ignore this, we continued to greatly ignore and thus failed to address serious positional short comings on the list forcing us to trade out of drafts and boy has that cost us and will continue to hurt for many years to come.
How many seasons did it take us to build a dynasty basically starting from scratch. Wallace era 2004 and getting plenty wrong right thru to 2017.
Around 13 - 14 years. We will have to go down the rebuild path we have not won a flag for 4 seasons including this year and we are yet to bottom out. Just how long should the expectation be.
It takes years just to get your hands on the quality picks you need and it takes even more to bring all those picks and players up to enough games as a group to even begin challenging.
The list 2024 i count 33 players aged under 28. only 6 or 7 have proven themselves to be B grade or above imo. Some of the younger kids may get there some are decent players. Its gunna be a long long haul 4years and counting and we still have not bottomed out.
To me 2020 was the last role of the dice and we got lucky and won a flag. It was time to start the transition period instead we kept on trying to pinch another one.
It was the easy route and the dumb one. I actually wanted us to turn over players during the premiership years and i still stand by that.
We had our fair share of ordinary no lets say average players who really needed to be upgraded on. We also lacked severly in player types and to be honest just ignored the problems.
Copped my fair share of abuse for saying this sort of thing while we were winning.
Generally speaking i will take out all players 28 and over, i do this because generally speaking they are short term players and if we do our job right need to be at the very least planning for their replacements.
That to me is just plain common sense you are planning and drafting the same types who will be retiring in the not too distant future.
We imo have tended to draft after they have retired. Or if we have drafted before its been a token pick with not a lot expenditure.
That has always been my thinking. But we actually ignored their age and the lack of numbers and just how many were our best players. We mostly ignored what types they were and we ignored the need.
We went down the lets eke out another premiership path that we should never have gone down.It was ah well lets not draft that type a f/a or we can trade for one if need be approach was adopted.
That approach actually ignored where we got the majority of our better dynasty players from.
At the end of 2020 look what was left after you took out the 28 plus year old players. It left around 30 players, 17 who would be gone by the start of this year. Thats most of the younger core gone anyway.
Of the remaining players i would say there are just 7 you could call B plus grade players. leaving another 6 who would not be greatly missed if they were not there imo. Outside 0f the great 28 plus year olds we had, we had just 7 players to build from in 2020 imo..
What was left on the list after you took out the 28 plus year olds was of real concern. Many were talking about it. Its hard to win any footy debate though when you have just won a premiership.
Not only did we ignore this, we continued to greatly ignore and thus failed to address serious positional short comings on the list forcing us to trade out of drafts and boy has that cost us and will continue to hurt for many years to come.
How many seasons did it take us to build a dynasty basically starting from scratch. Wallace era 2004 and getting plenty wrong right thru to 2017.
Around 13 - 14 years. We will have to go down the rebuild path we have not won a flag for 4 seasons including this year and we are yet to bottom out. Just how long should the expectation be.
It takes years just to get your hands on the quality picks you need and it takes even more to bring all those picks and players up to enough games as a group to even begin challenging.
The list 2024 i count 33 players aged under 28. only 6 or 7 have proven themselves to be B grade or above imo. Some of the younger kids may get there some are decent players. Its gunna be a long long haul 4years and counting and we still have not bottomed out.
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Richmond Rant / Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Last post by Andyy on April 18, 2024, 12:12:04 PM »Wouldn't surprise Andy if he may want to leave given the circumstances he ended up at ours.
We need to get active on FA big time. We need talent both young and old. Even Nank is pushing 30 now as well ffs.
Will be hard to prize FA talent compared with the likes of pies unlsss we offer the farm, but we must to remain relevant and to use up a salary cap which should be bare soon.
Problem is nobody would want to trade him in on performance so it would need to be like the Geelong taking Bowes deal. If a team has cap space and wants to hit the draft we'll need to package him with a pick that makes it worth their while to pay him $700k for 5 stuffing years lol.
