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Richmond Rant / Re: AFLX - Tigers in Sydney [updated - includes squad]
« Last post by Chopstix on Yesterday at 03:21:35 PM »
Updated AFLX squad. Chol, Miller and C Ellis played Intra Club this morning.

AFLX Squad:
7 Daniel Butler
11 Jason Castagna
15 Jayden Short
27 Sam Lloyd
28 Jack Higgins
30 Reece Conca
35 Nathan Broad
36 Callum Moore
38 Noah Balta
43 Derek Eggmolesse-Smith
44 Tyson Stengle
48 Liam Baker
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Richmond Rant / Re: AFLX - Tigers in Sydney [updated - includes squad]
« Last post by ¾ T!geɹ on Yesterday at 02:28:50 PM »
The game as it stands removes everything the avid AFL follower enjoys, bone crunching tackles, high marking and the opportunity to celebrate goals. Essentially its like watch two teams running through training drills, no real atmosphere and to be honest have found it a bit of a snorefest so far, others may disagree.
You're right it does remove everything, which is great as everybody always bitches (including me) when there is the slightest chance of a player getting injured and possibly missing round one.
I for one want it to stay as it is absolutely important that players get pre season match practice.
Players get injured during training, the JLT series and intraclub matches as well which are all designed to condition players for the up and coming season.

This set up is good for practice and builds up a lot of endurance testing for players who thought they were fit and after playing, know that they have more work to do.

If this game of foot basketball/hand soccer (I hate basketball, so stuffing repetitious and soccer is just, well I'd rather watch snails eat grass) keeps the players safe and provides good match conditioning then bring it on.
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Richmond Rant / Re: AFLX - Tigers in Sydney [updated - includes squad]
« Last post by Damo on Yesterday at 01:52:20 PM »
I went last night

Too easy to score and zero atmosphere

They know that, hence the need for a pooty commentator
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Richmond Rant / Re: AFLX - Tigers in Sydney [updated - includes squad]
« Last post by Lozza on Yesterday at 10:13:21 AM »
Think they need to incorporate a Harry Potter style Quidditch small circular target or similar (a vertical basketball net maybe) so that it introduces a more difficult scoring option with bigger reward. The game as it stands removes everything the avid AFL follower enjoys, bone crunching tackles, high marking and the opportunity to celebrate goals. Essentially its like watch two teams running through training drills, no real atmosphere and to be honest have found it a bit of a snorefest so far, others may disagree.
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I understand what you are saying but supply from over there is very difficult for any textiles products atm. I just suspect this will likely be the case. Even for Puma.
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I wouldn't call one of thrir suppliers (Puma) a minnow

The club would love you being so accepting of the litany of excuses

Also, orders were placed by the club/AFL before the grand finsl. That is orders were place for multiple clubs to cover the first run of orders despite not knowing who the winner was going to be

While i understand your points, if you palce an initial order for something in Sept. There is no excuse, none what so ever for not having ALL orders filled by now.

That some pople who ordered GF evening havent got their jumpers and while some who ordered on late October have theirs is totally unacceptable - no excuse for that
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Richmond and Essendon reaping benefits of sticking with coach

Paul Newberry
The Australian
17 Feb 2018


AFL clubs enter a fresh season next month with just one new coach among them and, in a rare occurrence, almost certainly with no coaches coming out of contract at the end of the year.

The only rookie on show is Gold Coast coach Stuart Dew, who has replaced Rodney Eade, on an initial three-year deal.

There have been more changes in the top administrative positions than among the head coaches, with four Melbourne-based clubs which failed to compete in the ­finals last season changing their chief executives.

Carlton start 2018 with new chief Cain Liddle. Collingwood have appointed Mark Anderson, Ameet Bains has joined the ­Western Bulldogs from St Kilda and Justin Reeves will start his first full year as Hawthorn’s CEO.

Richmond coach Damien Hardwick and Essendon coach John Worsfold are working under contracts that expire at the end of the season but it appears a formality that the tenures of both men will be extended.

Hardwick last year coached the Tigers to their first premiership since 1980 and Worsfold took the Bombers from the wooden spoon to eighth. Both will be ­recontracted for two to three years and there’s every chance their new arrangements will be ­completed before the start of the home-and-away season.

It was not surprising just over three weeks ago that Adelaide and their coach Don Pyke agreed to terms that will keep him with the Crows until the end of 2021. Pyke was coming out of contract at the end of this year and committed to a three-year extension.

Pyke, who will coach his 50th game in the opening round, took the Crows to last year’s grand final after a minor premiership win in just his second year in charge.

Of the current coaches, Pyke’s 70 per cent strike rate in his first two years as a senior coach is second only to Geelong’s Chris Scott, who won 37 of his first 48 games with the Cats, including a premiership in his first season (2011), at a win rate of 77 per cent.

Premiership coaches in their second years, Luke Beveridge (Western Bulldogs) and Sydney’s John Longmire started their ­careers with the outstanding strike rates of 67 per cent and 66 per cent respectively.

Hardwick, who won his ­maiden flag in his eighth season after no previous finals wins, has coached the Tigers in 182 games for 92 wins, two draws and 88 losses. He took on the Tigers when they were rock bottom and last year took his career strike rate past 50 per cent for the first time. President Peggy O’Neal, who controversially supported Hardwick’s most recent contract extension early in 2016, said the day after Richmond’s grand final win that her board would consider another extension in the summer.

A two-year contract extension and at least one finals appearance over the next three years would make Hardwick Richmond’s longest serving coach, eclipsing Tom Hafey’s record of 248 games coached between 1966 and 1976, a period that included four premierships. Sitting second on that list is club legend Jack Dyer, who coached in 222 games, of which 159 were as a playing coach.

Hardwick last year acknowledged the support of his president and chief executive Brendon Gale for extending his tenure when others called for change.

“I learned a big lesson from last year because sometimes you learn most when you are in your darkest places,” Hardwick said.

“Brendon Gale and Peggy O’Neal have been outstanding. They could quite easily have said, ‘Dimma, it’s time.’ But they backed me in and I am glad they did and we are lot better for it.”

Across town at Essendon, Worsfold this week said remaining the Bombers coach was a ­priority in his life, but that he was in no rush.

The Weekend Australian ­understands Worsfold’s Perth-based long-time manager Reg Gillard is expecting a call from ­Essendon chief executive Xavier Campbell any day, despite the West Coast premiership coach having a year to run on his initial three-year contract with the Bombers.

“[The contract] is a priority, but it’s not the pressing priority,” Worsfold told the AFL website this week. “The priority at the moment is these next three weeks and getting ready for the season.

“It’ll take care of itself, but honestly I haven’t given it any thought at the moment other than we are going to sit down and start to talk about what it looks like. I can’t see any sticking points in terms of going forward.”

Worsfold guided the Bombers though a disastrous three-win 2016 season after replacing James Hird at the end of 2015.

Not long after his appointment, 34 past and present players were hit with season-ending ­doping bans, forcing the club to top up with other clubs’ cast-offs.

Last year the Bombers won 12 games and lost to the Swans at the SCG by one point on the Friday night of round 14 in the most thrilling of finishes. Gary Rohan’s match-winning goal after the siren enabled the home team to claw back a 20-point deficit with just over four minutes remaining.

That heartbreak shattered ­Essendon, who momentarily lost their way and were upset by Brisbane at Etihad Stadium the following weekend before Worsfold was able to regroup his players.

Worsfold coached the Eagles for 12 years from 2002 and ­believes he has another long stint in him. “I do, absolutely,” he said. “When I took the job I was ­thinking I could easily live in ­Melbourne for the next 10 years comfortably.”

Stability is a word often used but hardly adhered to in AFL coaching ranks. Look at the Tigers’ success last year after they stuck with Hardwick. They had not previously won a final since 2001. Essendon have not won a final since 2004, but that appears set to change, and very quickly.



https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-and-essendon-reaping-benefits-of-sticking-with-coach/news-story/704839fd65359a437cf6a896cc39fa09
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Richmond Rant / Why Blues fans lack the fire of the Tigers (Age)
« Last post by one-eyed on Yesterday at 12:03:59 AM »
Why Blues fans lack the fire of the Tigers

Jake Niall
The Age
17 February 2018


At various stages over the past 15 years Carlton have been beset with the following ills: inept recruiting and list management, questionable coaching appointments and sackings, a divided board and a hefty debt.

But each of these ailments either has been addressed or can be overcome relatively soon. The playing list – the source of so much angst for so long – will eventually become strong, given that the Blues have belatedly embraced the draft and, in time, weight of early picks will drag them up.

Culturally, the Blues have accepted that their old ways – throwing money at players (or coaches), sometimes in brown-paper bags – no longer cuts it in the modern AFL. Admittedly, the brutal removal of Steven Trigg as CEO and messy courting of Simon Lethlean had more than a hint of old Carlton, albeit the hierarchy did retreat and finally appointed Cain Liddle via an uncharacteristic process.

The most persistent and difficult problem facing the club isn't finding midfielders or a key forward; it's finding – or reconnecting with – an absent generation of fans.

Today, Carlton's membership sits around 40,000. Even in the best of times, that number has never reached beyond just over 50,000.

The most revealing comparison, however, is with the club that the new CEO came from. Richmond will break its membership record of 75,777 next week and will probably set a new benchmark for the competition during 2018.

The Tigers, of course, were always going to generate an obscene bandwagon once they had a sniff of their first flag since Jimmy Carter's presidency. But their crowd and membership figures were impressive before the flag and this awakening wasn't built on success alone.

Richmond's fans are the most engaged of all the big clubs in the competition. When you compare the underlying supporter bases, the Tigers – by their own admission – are clearly smaller than Collingwood and Essendon and on the most recent research (which could change post-flag), they were still less numerous than the Carlton tribe.

One of the differences between the clubs is revealed by the nomenclature and branding of the supporter bases. Richmond has the ''Tiger Army'', while Collingwood owns the ''Magpie Army''. We never speak of the "Blue Army'' or even "Blue battalion'', despite their abundance (Essendon, while less branded, is certainly fierce and active).

The Richmond and Collingwood armies are notorious for getting carried away and, on occasion, can be destructive to their clubs. The Tiger fans were famous for flooding the talkback lines with invective, incinerating membership cards; one dumped a parcel of chicken manure on Danny Frawley's doorstep.

In 2016, as the Tigers fell down to 13th, two separate groups – comically redolent of the Judean People's Front in Monty Python's The Life of Brian – plotted to overthrow the Richmond board.

If the lamentable "Focus on Footy'' challenge made the Richmond tribe look ridiculous – and reinforced the stereotypes (except that these guys wore suits and surgeon's kit) – it demonstrated yet again that Richmond people cared.

As one Richmond official put it, the uprisings at least showed "you're getting your fan connection right''.

Anger is preferable to apathy, passionate is better than passive, and the concern for Carlton is not that hordes will be storming the barricades to overthrow the regime. It's that they've found other interests and can't be figged turning up.

The disconnection between the Blues and many of their fans is a slow-burn problem with historic roots.

Richmond can be likened to the Chicago Cubs, in that belonging to the tribe supersedes winning. The supporter is central to the club identity. The same applies, to a lesser extent, to Collingwood,  who are defined by an up-against-them psychology and treat victory like a form of revenge against everyone.

The Carlton tribe, by contrast, was long wedded to the notion that the Blues are ruthless winners, who will achieve success, by hook or by crook; that they will not tolerate defeat for long. Unfortunately, many supporters won't tolerate defeat for long either.

Further, there's an argument that Carlton has been a top-down, rather than a bottom-up club. The long shadow cast by billionaires and other benefactors – Richard Pratt, John Elliott, Bruce Mathieson – might have led fans to think that their financial support is less crucial.

When they found themselves in times of trouble, Carlton's first instinct has been to turn to benefactors (see Pratt in 2007). The Blues have never suffered the indignity of rattling tins. Maybe they'd be better placed if they had, instead of passing the hat around Raheen.

New CEO Liddle ran the membership program at Tigerland and has seen how the Tigers connect with their people, how they manage members via the digital space – Richmond's are also the most digitally engaged, according to AFL research.

Liddle's priority must to be find a way to energise the base, without relying on winning games. He must find and foster a new kind of Carlton supporter: the patriotic member.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/why-blues-fans-lack-the-fire-of-the-tigers-20180216-p4z0lz.html
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General Discussion / Re: Cricket thread
« Last post by one-eyed on Yesterday at 12:02:33 AM »
The Aussies have chased down a record innings score in the T20 game in Auckland.

Set a mammoth 244 to win on Friday night at Eden Park, the visitors achieved their target with seven balls to spare as David Warner (59 off 24 balls) and D’Arcy Short (76 off 44) ran riot.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/cricket/new-zealand-v-australia-t20-martin-guptill-century-crushes-australian-attack/news-story/f346b9e291672049a43601e6c465401d
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Richmond Rant / Re: Tigers chief Benny Gale wants a club with higher purpose (Age)
« Last post by crackertiger on February 16, 2018, 10:36:59 PM »
Here's an idea with "purpose"

Focus on getting a core part of the business right, on e that makes you a fair bit of coin

That is....

Merchandise sales and filling orders

That people are still waiting 5 months after ordering GF merch is inexcusable

Without knowing anything about this particular situation. Where is this merchandise coming from WP? If it's China well then like almost every industry relying on Chinese imports there is no real surprise that its all delayed.

1) Shipping company shortages creating extra long delays.
2) Container price increases to get your products on a boats. Pay your new price or you miss out etc... You dont even get a empty container until you pay the inflated price.
3) Chinese new year.China closes for 3 weeks.
4) Australia are minows compared to the rest of the world. So a massive American order comes in and we get pushed aside.
5) Textiles industries are going through major enviromental changes that are closing factories and forcing improvements. They are trying to reduce there polution which they need.
6) Unions at Melbournes docks when it finally gets here.
7) Customs delays.

All equal to a supply Disaster... I bet that there will be components of this premiership merchandise delay linked to this massive issue.
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