Raines has asked to be traded

[Jackstar is back]

knew this was coming
some unhappy players down at Tigerland

who cares, our players took us to 15th this year, if they want out they can pee off.

Agree,
Its funny some people think he is worth pick 28,
Your dreamers, same people bagged the crap out of him all year, now he a 2nd round pick, please.

[mightytiges]

It's a compromised draft Jack. One third of the kids (d.o.b. Jan-Apr 1992) are ineligible. So pick 28 would be about pick 40 in a normal draft. You'd be surprised also that some still rate Raines especially in the media based on his rising star year and blame his injuries and Richmond's poor development.

They should all be unhappy after their "effort" this year  .

Realistically what do you think he is worth to them?

3rd round  pick if that.

Brisbane (at the moment) have picks 12, 28, 44, 60. Pick 28 sounds a more likely deal. Rainesy is still rated by the media going by Robbo today. Pick 44 is cheap for the Lions in a compromised draft and 12 is wishful thinking on our part.

Give us picks 3, 19, 28, 35, 51, .....

Pick 28 would be a good result for us.

GC17 might have been more desperate for 20-something players but if a player wants out then you let him go.

[WilliamPowell]

Agree,
Its funny some people think he is worth pick 28,
Your dreamers, same people bagged the crap out of him all year, now he a 2nd round pick, please.

Actually Jack I think it has more to do with the media rating him highly as opposed to we supporters -if we got offered a 3rd rounder for him I'd take it but if Brissie is prepared to offer their 2nd round pick you'd be crazy not to take it  

Haviing said thar to be honesy I'd happily look at a trade of player for him to honest

I'd take Bradd Dalziell for young Andrew. Quite a good player Dalziell and he is only 22 (turns 23 in Mar '10)

[Jackstar is back]

Problem at Punt Rd is this,
Last year-Port offered round 5 for Schulz we wanted Round 3.
With Rainesm we should take anything, but we will want something stupid.
Remember that the Saints got Steve King for pick 89, and he will play in a Grand Final 2 years later

[Francois Jackson]

Raines will start the player exodus at Punt Road, actually the cancer exodus should i say. He is useless.

he is no loss but i would not ask for a trade for another player under no circumstances. This fascination with players from other clubs i hope stop after the tanned one left.

Its draft picks only and i would play hardball with the Lions at the start, but in the end we should accept anything.

we should not let this turn into another Schulz scenario and end up keeping him. Trade him!!

[WilliamPowell]

he is no loss but i would not ask for a trade for another player under no circumstances. This fascination with players from other clubs i hope stop after the tanned one left.

I suppose daniel the question is what is of greater benefit to the RFC?

Brisbane's pick 60 or later which would be used on a kid that the odds tell us is unlikely to play 100-150 games or do you trade for a young player who has shown he can actually play and will likely give you those 100-150 games and is a bteer player than the one you are getting rid of?

[mightytiges]

Problem at Punt Rd is this,
Last year-Port offered round 5 for Schulz we wanted Round 3.
With Rainesm we should take anything, but we will want something stupid.
Remember that the Saints got Steve King for pick 89, and he will play in a Grand Final 2 years later

Pick 90 it was and Geelong had salary cap pressure and just wanted to offload King and Charlie Gardiner for anything to free up $$$ in their TPP. Port offered pick 28 for Schulz two years ago. Now that wasn't smart not accepting that. Club didn't think Rance would be around at pick 18. Let's not go there as we know what a stuff up that all was (re: Jordie).

Brad Symes went from Port to the Crows for that pick 28 in 2007. Crows got that pick initially from Sydney for Mattner.

[Francois Jackson]

he is no loss but i would not ask for a trade for another player under no circumstances. This fascination with players from other clubs i hope stop after the tanned one left.

I suppose daniel the question is what is of greater benefit to the RFC?

Brisbane's pick 60 or later which would be used on a kid that the odds tell us is likely to play 100-150 games or do you trade for a young player who has shown he can actually play and will likely give you those 100-150 games and is a bteer player than the one you are getting rid of?

problem is we have been down this road before time and time again. I would rather draft a younger player through the draft and hire another development coach with the money we save from recruiting a hack from another team.

If we had not recruited McMahon we could have recruited 2 development coaches plus a player through the draft and still come out with change.

Thompson and Hislop ditto i have seen enough and they will be heading down the same road as McMahon. if you cant kick then you should not get a game at the RFC. All 3 are very average kicks at best.

hawks won a flag because they loaded up on draft picks by getting rid of deadwood. we need to do the same

[Jackstar is back]

Just pinched myself, Daniel making sense :thumbsupe

[Gigantor]

I want the club to be as brutal as can be on this....we as supporters can show sentiment as we identify with these guys week in week out,and they carry our hopes ,and we live our dreams through them...But the RFC cannot afford such sentiment....Get to the top Richmond however and by whatever means you can.

all within the law of course...LOL

[jezza]

Would take a 3rd rounder.

[Infamy]

Problem at Punt Rd is this,
Last year-Port offered round 5 for Schulz we wanted Round 3.

Uhhh no, they offered their 2nd round pick #28

[Jackstar is back]

Problem at Punt Rd is this,
Last year-Port offered round 5 for Schulz we wanted Round 3.

Uhhh no, they offered their 2nd round pick #28

Well if thats the case, why didnt the idiots take it

[tugga]

Have Brisbane actually said they want him?
I'd let him go for nothing if that's what he wants. We would be doing well to get a 4th round pick for him.

[Infamy]

Problem at Punt Rd is this,
Last year-Port offered round 5 for Schulz we wanted Round 3.

Uhhh no, they offered their 2nd round pick #28

Well if thats the case, why didnt the idiots take it

I think we wanted a swap of earlier picks as well
The belief prior to that draft was that it only went to about #25 then dropped off badly
This was pretty much confirmed the day of the draft when the first 2 dozen picks went in about 5 mins, then almost everyone called for extra time for each pick after that.

This was after Jay had been playing in defence and doing quite well, even had a 30 disposal game, so I guess they thought he was coming good. The reality is we should have taken it and run around the trade table with our pants down.