Ben Griffiths [merged]

[Darth Tiger]

I would like the stats gurus to gather the first 5 years of Sam Reid versus Ben Griffiths please ....

Just for comparison review & analysis.

[one-eyed]

Snip! 

Cut out the personal insults, baiting and all the infighting crap  and get back to discussing the topic. That goes for all threads.

[one-eyed]

I would like the stats gurus to gather the first 5 years of Sam Reid versus Ben Griffiths please ....

Just for comparison review & analysis.

Here you go DT. Both picked up in the 2009 draft.

Stats comparison: http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=17&pid1=3381&tid2=15&pid2=3332&type=A&fid1=C&fid2=C

[Owl]

Snip! 

Cut out the personal insults, baiting and all the infighting crap  and get back to discussing the topic. That goes for all threads.

LOL

[YellowandBlackBlood]

I would like the stats gurus to gather the first 5 years of Sam Reid versus Ben Griffiths please ....

Just for comparison review & analysis.

Here you go DT. Both picked up in the 2009 draft.

Stats comparison: http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=17&pid1=3381&tid2=15&pid2=3332&type=A&fid1=C&fid2=C

Griffiths' stats from 2014 are better than Reids!
Hahaha!

[Penelope]

they are also not too far behind one of the premier big men in hawkins stats at five years, specially if you take into account hawking had played 90 odd games. probably the biggest difference would be contested marks, although he averaged 1.6 contested marks in 2013, which as we know is unacceptable

[yellowandback]

I would like the stats gurus to gather the first 5 years of Sam Reid versus Ben Griffiths please ....

Just for comparison review & analysis.

Here you go DT. Both picked up in the 2009 draft.

Stats comparison: http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=17&pid1=3381&tid2=15&pid2=3332&type=A&fid1=C&fid2=C

Griffiths' stats from 2014 are better than Reids!
Hahaha!

The point I was making earlier was that Jay Schultz in his first 6 years was no better statistically than BBG and we all know what has happened subsequently.
In fact, I'd back Benny Gales first 5 years to be no better either before having a great career.
Vision, faith, development and a willingness to apply talent are a potent mix between club and player.

[the claw]

lol no where have i said he hasnt improved. what i have said is to date hes not at afl level that hes gone from horrid to not quite there.i  asked if with his performances and stats if he won the most improved what did the  juniors and other  battlers do. they must have been horrid.
yet a posse of posters get their backs up because the truth is being spoken.

ben has  just one attribute to hang a hat on atm and boy have people latched onto it with their hot little hands. its like a life line.c/m he takes 1.5 a game and that is not good enough.
lets talk marks then shall we.
4.4 a game it isnt enough its never been enough. needs to improve in this. 1mark i50 for a  kpf its a  pitiful return and explains why riewoldt is always double and triple teamed.
ah the hat hanger 1.5 c/m how many c/m s are inside 50, i dont have that stat but my eyes say very few.but hey its close to other fwds so lets hang our hat on this one eh.

while we hang our hat on c/ps lets ignore all the other stats hes lousy in which is most. he has so many areas he has to be better in to become a decent player it is not funny.

but dont anyone dare focus on this its un richmond like.

i did a post on sam read a few days ago. said hes not worth chasing and very over rated to date and has little substance to his game atm. bit like griffiths eh.
at least someone around here is consistent.

[Yeahright]

lol no where have i said he hasnt improved. what i have said is to date hes not at afl level that hes gone from horrid to not quite there.i  asked if with his performances and stats if he won the most improved what did the  juniors and other  battlers do. they must have been horrid.
yet a posse of posters get their backs up because the truth is being spoken.

Who do you think improved more than him? Please give one or two names with tops a succinct description of why. No rambling that doesn't answer the question and instead takes a different tangent mixed in with some insults

while we hang our hat on c/ps lets ignore all the other stats hes lousy in which is most. he has so many areas he has to be better in to become a decent player it is not funny.

but dont anyone dare focus on this its un richmond like.

I think you should read my posts a few pages back, you aren't the first to focus on the need for improvement.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

lol no where have i said he hasnt improved. what i have said is to date hes not at afl level that hes gone from horrid to not quite there.i  asked if with his performances and stats if he won the most improved what did the  juniors and other  battlers do. they must have been horrid.
yet a posse of posters get their backs up because the truth is being spoken.

ben has  just one attribute to hang a hat on atm and boy have people latched onto it with their hot little hands. its like a life line.c/m he takes 1.5 a game and that is not good enough.
lets talk marks then shall we.
4.4 a game it isnt enough its never been enough. needs to improve in this. 1mark i50 for a  kpf its a  pitiful return and explains why riewoldt is always double and triple teamed.
ah the hat hanger 1.5 c/m how many c/m s are inside 50, i dont have that stat but my eyes say very few.but hey its close to other fwds so lets hang our hat on this one eh.

while we hang our hat on c/ps lets ignore all the other stats hes lousy in which is most. he has so many areas he has to be better in to become a decent player it is not funny.

but dont anyone dare focus on this its un richmond like.

i did a post on sam read a few days ago. said hes not worth chasing and very over rated to date and has little substance to his game atm. bit like griffiths eh.
at least someone around here is consistent.

So you agre he has improved.  Draw a graph and you will see that this improvement will more than likely continue. We will have a very versatile 200cm player who has a unique set of skills playing for us. WTF is wrong with that?

[Judge Roughneck]

lol no where have i said he hasnt improved. what i have said is to date hes not at afl level that hes gone from horrid to not quite there.i  asked if with his performances and stats if he won the most improved what did the  juniors and other  battlers do. they must have been horrid.
yet a posse of posters get their backs up because the truth is being spoken.

ben has  just one attribute to hang a hat on atm and boy have people latched onto it with their hot little hands. its like a life line.c/m he takes 1.5 a game and that is not good enough.
lets talk marks then shall we.
4.4 a game it isnt enough its never been enough. needs to improve in this. 1mark i50 for a  kpf its a  pitiful return and explains why riewoldt is always double and triple teamed.
ah the hat hanger 1.5 c/m how many c/m s are inside 50, i dont have that stat but my eyes say very few.but hey its close to other fwds so lets hang our hat on this one eh.

while we hang our hat on c/ps lets ignore all the other stats hes lousy in which is most. he has so many areas he has to be better in to become a decent player it is not funny.

but dont anyone dare focus on this its un richmond like.

i did a post on sam read a few days ago. said hes not worth chasing and very over rated to date and has little substance to his game atm. bit like griffiths eh.
at least someone around here is consistent.

ben reid won aa chb

and i dont think sam reid is a 100% different player...

reid>chaplin

[one-eyed]

Tall Tiger trimming down for new aerobic role

Nathan Schmook 
afl.com.au
January 28, 2015 5:14 PM


RICHMOND forward Ben Griffiths is training for a new role up the ground in 2015 as he looks to build on the most encouraging period of his short career.
 
Griffiths, who impressed in the final six games of the Tigers' season last year, has taken momentum into this pre-season, stripping weight and building his engine.
 
The 23-year-old was a regular inside-50 target last year, leading Richmond for contested marks, but he managed just 12 goals in 16 games.
 
He is preparing for a changed role in 2015, which could allow him to utilise his aerial strengths more often.
 
"This season I'm going to be playing a bit higher up the ground, so I just need to increase my aerobic capacity," Griffiths told the club's website. 
 
"I feel like I'm moving a lot better than I was last year. I've lost a bit of weight so my mobility is a bit higher.
 
"I was playing at 104kg last year, which I needed, but I think the way the game's going and the role that I'm playing, I needed to lose a bit and run a bit better."
 
Griffith's improved mobility will also help him in the ruck, where he was regularly used as a back-up option last season.
 
As a tall forward, he will again be in competition with Tyrone Vickery, whose four-game suspension opened the door for Griffith's return to the team in round 19 last year.
 
"Although we're fighting for the spot we're helping each other to get better," Griffiths said. 
 
"We all want the club to succeed and the best way of doing that is for us to get better … the competition for talls especially is really good."
 
Roughly half of Richmond's list, including Griffiths and Vickery, took part in the final time trial of their pre-season at Princes Park on Wednesday.
 
Griffiths said it was a relief to get the 3km test out of the way and move into more match-based training.
 
"We've all got a bit of a taste for it … we've started some 13-on-13 [games] in the last couple of weeks and that's been really good," he said.
 
"Now we can get stuck into the football phase and start playing some intra-club games."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-01-28/tall-tiger-trimming-down

[Phil Mrakov]

[tony_montana]

 

relief to get a 3km time trial out of the way? 

[Mr Magic]

Think he meant the pre season running..

Griffiths showed a lot of promise in the back half of last season but he's still got a lot of work ahead of him.
I don't think I've seen him look fitter or hungrier since he's been at the club.
Break out season ahead methinks..