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ANZAC Day - Lest We Forget
tony_montana:
salute :cheers
Diocletian:
--- Quote from: Dooks on April 25, 2014, 07:11:54 PM ---Abuse or opinion?
National identidy. War. Division.
Why has it shifted from respect for the fallen to defining a nation, over the past 20 years?
Respect to the diggers. They were fighting for a better world, not a smoke and mirrors world.
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Except nothing in this thread was about any of those things and was indeed just people respecting the fallen and their own relatives, so there was no need for people to come in and pee all over it with irrelevent political crap.
🏅Dooks:
--- Quote from: Diocletian on April 25, 2014, 08:03:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dooks on April 25, 2014, 07:11:54 PM ---Abuse or opinion?
National identidy. War. Division.
Why has it shifted from respect for the fallen to defining a nation, over the past 20 years?
Respect to the diggers. They were fighting for a better world, not a smoke and mirrors world.
--- End quote ---
Except nothing in this thread was about any of those things and was indeed just people respecting the fallen and their own relatives, so there was no need for people to come in and pee all over it with irrelevent political crap.
--- End quote ---
ANZAC day is political. If it was just about respecting the fallen, there wouldnt be the whole 'the day that defined a nation crap'.
WilliamPowell:
--- Quote from: Dooks on April 25, 2014, 09:28:56 PM ---
ANZAC day is political. If it was just about respecting the fallen, there wouldnt be the whole 'the day that defined a nation crap'.
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I would argue strongly that it isn't political. Not sure how the Dawn Service is anything other than respecting and commemorating our fallen and by obvious extension our history? The two are linked.
The actions of those before us actually do define us, the good and the bad. It's called history. Our history defines us as a nation.
Have you ever been to a Dawn Service Dooks?
I would encourage everyone to do it at least once because it really teaches you lot. One of today's speakers gave the most moving speeches I've heard at the service. For me it explained perfectly why we as nation respect/revere ANZAC day the way we do and how it actually has defined us.
Not going to go into detail of what was said but if people can get a copy of it or it ends up on you-tube read/watch it. Just call it the perfect lesson
But at the end of the day (ironically ;)), each to their own.
Diocletian:
--- Quote from: Dooks on April 25, 2014, 09:28:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Diocletian on April 25, 2014, 08:03:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dooks on April 25, 2014, 07:11:54 PM ---Abuse or opinion?
National identidy. War. Division.
Why has it shifted from respect for the fallen to defining a nation, over the past 20 years?
Respect to the diggers. They were fighting for a better world, not a smoke and mirrors world.
--- End quote ---
Except nothing in this thread was about any of those things and was indeed just people respecting the fallen and their own relatives, so there was no need for people to come in and pee all over it with irrelevent political crap.
--- End quote ---
ANZAC day is political. If it was just about respecting the fallen, there wouldnt be the whole 'the day that defined a nation crap'.
--- End quote ---
All sides of politics are equally guilty of trying to hijack the day to promote their own agendas. Sort of thing happens in most countries. Some venerate, some denigrate, they all exaggerate - the rest of us just remember, which was clearly the point of this thread.
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