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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the MCG - Round 18, 2017
« Reply #150 on: July 24, 2017, 07:57:40 PM »
Tony M, Dooks thank you for the detailed summary of the match. Looking forward to watching the replay when I finish work tonight.

Re: umpires. I have no idea why why they have it in for us. Obviously not the first time this season. Jayden Short's "deliberate" vs the bulldogs, Disallowing Caddy's goal vs Freo when Jack was "interfering," not calling 50 when Dusty's protected zone was stepped into etc. The shafting we get from the umpires is a mystery which is up there with is there life outside of the solar system, does God exist, and what is in the KFC 11 herbs and spices

Make sure you don't swig your wine when they show the Rance deliberate cause you'll spit it out over the TV

Just about the worst deliberate you will ever see

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Team trumps talent (Age)
« Reply #151 on: July 25, 2017, 01:46:25 AM »
RoCo's Wrap: Team trumps talent on both sides of town

Rohan Connolly
The Age
24 July 2017


The best 22 or the 22 best? If you wanted a case study for a philosophical debate about team versus talent, Sunday’s Richmond-GWS clash was the perfect vehicle.

It was also one which ultimately delivered a pretty emphatic verdict, too. And a finding as disturbing for the Giants as it was encouraging for the Tigers.

It would be hard to find a person in the football world who wouldn’t agree that GWS has by some margin the most talented list in the AFL. But it’s becoming increasingly hard to argue that the Giants as a result have the best team in the competition, even by the most fundamental measure.

Sunday’s 19-point loss to Richmond means GWS has now won just one of its last six games, and that sole success against the bottom team of the ladder.

Sure, injuries have played havoc with the line-up all season. But they’re not the sole reason the Giants are proving to be far from the dominant force many tipped when they fell just a goal short of a grand final spot last year.

The current injury list is still long. But of the 13 casualties officially listed during the week, only four players – Jeremy Cameron, Stephen Coniglio, Brett Deledio and Ryan Griffen – would be walk-up starts in the Giants’ best 22.

And after Coniglio and Deledio’s games in the NEAFL on Saturday, and with Cameron expected back for the round 19 game against Fremantle, that may be just one by next week. The Giants haven’t had their best line-up on the park. But selection hasn’t been a merry-go-round, either. In fact, only five teams have used fewer players thus far than the Giants’ 35.

What are the issues, then? Well, opponents have certainly privately held the view that Leon Cameron’s team might be short of a few “role players”, and can be a bit too individualistic at times. That’s not as harsh a call as “selfish” or “arrogant”, terms which understandably make the Giants bristle.

But it is an antonym of “co-operative”. And that is something the Tigers were far better at than GWS after quarter-time at the MCG, significantly, when the turn in the weather made that need even more pressing.

At quarter-time, when GWS led by 20 points and was doing it on the bit, the Giants had doubled Richmond for clearance wins, had racked up a dozen more contested possessions, led the tackle count and had had a mammoth 19 inside 50 entries to just seven.

As the rain descended and the Tigers got on top over the next two terms, it was they who led the hard ball gets, had a dozen more tackles despite winning more of the ball, and went inside 50 on 42 occasions to only 15. Little wonder they slammed on eight goals to only one.

Team? It’s hard to argue Toby Greene was doing much for his when he indulged another silly little burst of temper, a jumper punch on Alex Rance likely to earn him another week, if not two, on the sidelines courtesy of the MRP. They’re exactly the sort of petulant acts that have people doubting the team ethic of the Giants.

So what of the Tigers? Like many, I still find it hard to see them as a potential premier. Perhaps, though, that’s investing too much stock in sheer talent. Because as a combination which gets the best out of themselves, they have few peers.

Sure, the big guns Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Alex Rance again led the way. But a team which structurally still has its weaknesses, the lack of tall support for Jack Riewoldt the most glaring example, continues to find a way.

It’s the seemingly little things that help the Tigers get over the line, the forward pressure of the likes of Dan Butler and Jason Castagna, the tackling of Kane Lambert, Nick Vlastuin and Shaun Grigg, the unrefined but whole-hearted efforts of players like ruckman Toby Nankervis.

The result is a hard-earned top-four spot. And with only one of their remaining five games against a fellow top-eight team, the Tigers are every chance of hanging on to it, too.

Full article: http://www.footyology.com.au/rocos-wrap-team-trumps-talent-on-both-sides-of-town/

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the MCG - Round 18, 2017
« Reply #152 on: July 25, 2017, 09:07:26 AM »
Tony M, Dooks thank you for the detailed summary of the match. Looking forward to watching the replay when I finish work tonight.

Re: umpires. I have no idea why why they have it in for us. Obviously not the first time this season. Jayden Short's "deliberate" vs the bulldogs, Disallowing Caddy's goal vs Freo when Jack was "interfering," not calling 50 when Dusty's protected zone was stepped into etc. The shafting we get from the umpires is a mystery which is up there with is there life outside of the solar system, does God exist, and what is in the KFC 11 herbs and spices

Make sure you don't swig your wine when they show the Rance deliberate cause you'll spit it out over the TV

Just about the worst deliberate you will ever see

Disgusting. The very definition of an ump not having a feel for the game (wet weather slide and didnt even take possession).  And just plain wrong.
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Re: Team trumps talent (Age)
« Reply #153 on: July 25, 2017, 09:26:36 AM »
It’s the seemingly little things that help the Tigers get over the line, the forward pressure of the likes of Dan Butler and Jason Castagna, the tackling of Kane Lambert, Nick Vlastuin and Shaun Grigg, the unrefined but whole-hearted efforts of players like ruckman Toby Nankervis.


Full article: http://www.footyology.com.au/rocos-wrap-team-trumps-talent-on-both-sides-of-town/

WTF, Geez some poo is being spun these days

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Re: Team trumps talent (Age)
« Reply #154 on: July 25, 2017, 02:37:56 PM »
It’s the seemingly little things that help the Tigers get over the line, the forward pressure of the likes of Dan Butler and Jason Castagna, the tackling of Kane Lambert, Nick Vlastuin and Shaun Grigg, the unrefined but whole-hearted efforts of players like ruckman Toby Nankervis.


Full article: http://www.footyology.com.au/rocos-wrap-team-trumps-talent-on-both-sides-of-town/

WTF, Geez some poo is being spun these days

At least they spelled the names right
"Sliding doors moment.
If Damian Barrett had a brain
Then its made of sh#t" Dont Argue - 2/8/2018