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MintOnLamb:
It isn't the best situation but in reality many players are stuffed after their career, maybe that is why they get the big $.
In Ty's case he may not have rehabbed correctly, had an injury post footy, or just be predisposed to that condition.
Personally I think it should be move on nothing to see here.

one-eyed:
Clubs never forced painkilling jabs says Nathan Grima.

SEN
13 Dec 2018

Nathan Grima says retired players must be careful when lashing out at clubs long after their AFL career is over.

The former North Melbourne defender was forced to retire prematurely in 2015 due to a chronic back problem which required three bouts of surgery.

Grima managed to return for one season with Essendon as a top-up player in 2016, but his career at the elite level was over earlier than expected.

It has emerged that Ty Zantuck has launched a damages claim after he was allegedly injected 50 times while at Richmond between 2001 and 2003, but Grima feels it is dangerous territory to solely blame the club.

“I came out with three back operations and chronic back pain, but would I do it all again? In a heartbeat,” the new Sturt coach said on SEN SA Breakfast.

“If I didn’t want to put myself at risk of doing that, I would have done an office job.

“You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

“It’s a weird sport, I guess, because you do it at the front end of your life and achieve everything you’ve set out to by the time you are 30 so I think that’s why a lot of guys get to the back end and feel empty as to what comes next.

“They start feeling pity on things that have happened.

“I think you’ve got be careful coming out the back end. You are around good doctors, and managed as best you can. It’s a contact sport, there’s going to be injuries.

“It’s not the complete fault of the club, you are putting yourself out there like other sports.

“I would never go back at North. I still get best medical care if I need to, and for my wife and kids.

“I can see a club doctor from Essendon or North at any time. They genuinely care so much about you.”

Grima, who played a total of 88 AFL games for the Roos and Dons, said he always had a choice whether or not he received a painkilling injection.

“I got jabbed to play games I shouldn’t have played but it wasn’t the club wanting to do it, it was me as a player wanting to play as many games I could,” he added.

“If they gave me the option to play, even it was 50-50, if you are a competitor you want to get out there.

“Just don’t do it if you don’t want to do it. There’s no shame in not wanting to do it (get jabbed).

“I think it’s getting a bit of a trend for players to come out of the woodwork.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/12/12/clubs-never-forced-painkilling-jabs-says-grima/

one-eyed:
Zantuck’s mother lashes footy ‘nightmare’

Michael Warner,
Herald Sun
14 December 2016

THE mother of fallen Richmond hardman Ty Zantuck says football has destroyed her son’s life.

Karmene Zantuck, 60, has detailed a trail of destruction she says was inflicted on her family as a result of years of painkilling jabs used to keep Ty on the field.

She has accused the AFL system of mistreating and abandoning her son.

“Ty’s whole life has been ruined through football,” Karmene said.

“They knew that he had stress fractures in his back, but instead of giving him time off to heal, they kept pumping him full of drugs.

“He relied on any sort of medication that they were giving to him to get through daily life.

“We have had to endure watching him struggle through everything.”

Thursday’s Herald Sun revealed a damages claim brought by Zantuck’s lawyers had been hampered by the absence of medical records at the Tigers before 2004.

Zantuck, 36, alleges he was injected with painkillers and epidurals up to 50 times over three seasons under the care of then Richmond doctor Chris Bradshaw from 2001-03.

He played 77 games for the Tigers and Essendon before being delisted in 2005 with a chronic back injury and has since endured 17 operations on his spine.

“He’s never been able to keep a proper job and was forced to try and play local football to get money, because he was so desperate,” Karmene said.

“It’s been an absolute nightmare.

“He needed proper help. You wonder why he’s had all these surgeries and nerve damage to his back. It’s just shocking.”
Ty Zantuck in action for the Tigers in 2003.

Karmene said she had gone to the AFL Players’ Association headquarters in tears “virtually begging for help with his medical bills”.

“He needed more than just a handout,” she said.

“There was never, ever a phone call to say, ‘Oh, how is Ty going?’ No one ever gave a s--- about what happened to him.

“One day one of these kids will commit suicide, because you’ve got no idea what it’s like when players at such an early age get delisted. It was because he was struggling to play football. They wouldn’t give him time to heal and when he got to Essendon, after 12 months they turned around and said, ‘we don’t think you fit in here, see you later’.

“But they knew that he had medical problems.

“If a bloke does his knee, he’s out for 12 months, but he had a bad back and they wouldn’t even give him three months.
Ty Zantuck with sons Jagger and Zepplin earlier this year. Pic: Wayne Taylor

“He hasn’t been an angel … but there was so much pressure on him.”

Karmene said her son “lost everything after he got delisted from Essendon”.

“All of a sudden it just gets pulled from underneath them and the next minute they’re on their own,” she said.

“He lives for his two kids, and I think that’s why he tries so hard to be a good father to them.”

Ty’s father, Shane, played 149 games for North Melbourne, South Melbourne and Melbourne and his uncle Arnold Briedis played in two premierships for the Roos.

Asked whether following in their footsteps was worth the price her son paid, Karmene said: “No way.

“As all parents do, you send your kid down to play football and within three years he’s ended up like a cripple because they never gave him the right medical treatment.

“I’m just so disappointed in the whole system.”

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/ty-zantucks-mother-says-years-of-painkilling-injections-has-ruined-his-life/news-story/5f71e3b27ad8aac127041ec30fcd4816

Rampsation:
How many clubs did he play for after Richmond including suburban clubs. How do we know the damage happened at Richmond? Can they prove it? How often did he injure himself playing footy after Richmond? How many weeks off did he have to take off at those clubs. You see he has no claim because my understanding is he played a lot of suburban football for years. If I am wrong on that someone will probably tell us on here.

Andyy:
Epidural to play football? Surely not LOL

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