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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Fluffy Tiger on August 15, 2022, 09:01:59 AM
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We have locked in a finals birth and will finish either 7th or 8th (probably 7th) and will have an away final. The thing is we will play against either 5th or 6th which is far from settled. 5 teams are battling 2nd to 6th. Sydney, Brisbane, Fremantle, Melbourne and Collingwood will be our first final with Sydney being highly unlikely. So the question is who would you prefer to play given it will be played away?
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Answer:
Finals Week 1
Elimination Final
Brisbane Lions v Richmond
Thursday 1 September 2022
7:20 PM (GMT+10)
GABBA, Brisbane
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4740
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Fremantle for sure
Brisbane probably the next
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Don't care who, don't care where
Will back us in.
Have said all season we get into the 8, we will give it one helluva shake
:gotigers
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Fremantle will poo their pants.
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We a building nicely in form really don't mind anyone and we know this team lifts another gear come finals.
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We can run the table here. Question is can Hardwick convince or inspire his warriors to climb the mountain one more time.
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We can run the table here. Question is can Hardwick convince or inspire his warriors to climb the mountain one more time.
Inspiration wont be an issue
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Foxsports predicting us to play Brisbane up at the 'Gabba.
PREDICTED WEEK 1 FINALS
First Qualifying Final (1st hosts 4th): Geelong Cats vs Collingwood at the MCG
First Elimination Final (5th hosts 8th): Fremantle vs Western Bulldogs at Optus Stadium
Second Elimination Final (6th hosts 7th): Brisbane Lions vs Richmond at the Gabba
Second Qualifying Final (2nd hosts 3rd): Sydney Swans vs Melbourne at the SCG
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2022-the-run-home-after-round-22-predicted-ladder-top-eight-week-one-finals-round-23-what-every-team-needs/news-story/af6fcfb475d0340e5cd33623bf4e013b
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Conflicted as it would be great if the blues miss the finals but would be great to play the pies in the first week too and would need the blues to beat them to make that happen. We still owe them one from 2018.
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Conflicted as it would be great if the blues miss the finals but would be great to play the pies in the first week too and would need the blues to beat them to make that happen. We still owe them one from 2018.
Blues missing would be one of the greatest things in world sport for many a decade .. the capitulation by a cheating grub of a club would surpass who we play in the first week of the finals for sure
The heartache of the Blues ferals would be an utter delight for the rest of the population
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Anyone, Anywhere and Anytime.
Bring it on.
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Anyone, Anywhere and Anytime.
Bring it on.
Yep .. still , of the lot, reckon the dockers will be one and done , or straight sets
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Would rather Carlton miss out.
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Would rather Carlton miss out.
Absolutely
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I voted don’t care but would be bloody awesome to go to the G first up
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I hear ya CUB and I’ll be drinking cub if that happens…
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I wonder which day or night we will play on?
The Sunday will be Father's Day.
:gotigers
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dont really care, but you would think if the afl had brains (which they dont) it should be on Friday being the RFC. Thursday will be the QF IMO.
It also allows fans to head up to Brisbane if they are our opponents.
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Update:
If we win tonight or Carlton loses, we finish 7th:
* If Freo lose then we play them in Perth.
* If Freo win and Collingwood lose then we play the Pies at the 'G.
* If Freo and Collingwood both win then we play Brisbane at the 'Gabba.
If we lose tonight and Carlton wins, we finish 8th:
* If Freo loses then we play the Pies at the 'G.
* If Freo wins then we play Brisbane at the 'Gabba.
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So much up in the air still.
Kinda interesting compared to previous years
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It doesn't matter who we play or where with Dusty back we'll win.
Only team I don't want to get before the GF is the Shemons.
We've beaten or should have beaten every other team in the comp except this mob.
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So it will be Freo
Personally from a fan point of view. Worst possible result. Would have flown to Gabba or would have loved Pies. Freo is a crap final.
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Dour as well, although we could make it high scoring on the bigger Wacca.
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So it will be Freo
Personally from a fan point of view. Worst possible result. Would have flown to Gabba or would have loved Pies. Freo is a crap final.
Definitely the weakest opponent possible at the start of the round
But you’ve definitely gone the early crow … that game against GWS is far from done
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Freo now in front (by a point) midway Q3.
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Freo now in front (by a point) midway Q3.
Make that now GWS in front by a goal (late Q3).
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Freo back in front by 7 points (early Q4).
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GWS back in front 68 - 63 (mid Q4).
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Freo will get up here. Josh Kelly had players everywhere up forward turns it over. Freo go up and goal. He's so over hyped and overpaid.
Either Brisbane or Pies.
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GWS are hopeless, lots of lazy players.
12 points with 5min to play
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Doesnt matter who we play. We'll win our first final.
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Freo wins. So we're not playing them.
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Down to Brisbane or Collingwood?
Update #2:
If we win tonight, we finish 7th:
* If Collingwood lose then we play the Pies at the 'G.
* If Collingwood win then we play Brisbane at the 'Gabba.
If we lose tonight and Carlton wins, we finish 8th:
* We play Brisbane at the 'Gabba.
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Answorth & Rayner both suspended for a week.
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A very simple equation now.
Update #3:
* If Collingwood lose then we play them at the 'G.
* If Collingwood win then we play Brisbane at the 'Gabba.
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Going off previous finals, we play Saturday afternoon 4:20
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Going off previous finals, we play Saturday afternoon 4:20
Nope
Supposedly the AFL want all 1st week finals completed by Saturday
So likely to be
Thursday night
Friday night
Saturday arvo/twilight
Saturday night
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Going off previous finals, we play Saturday afternoon 4:20
Nope
Supposedly the AFL want all 1st week finals completed by Saturday
So likely to be
Thursday night
Friday night
Saturday arvo/twilight
Saturday night
No chance we play saturday arvo. Big drawing club will be at night.
The AFL would be so stupid to play us on a thursday, though we all know the afl are exactly that. I also cant ever remember an elimination final on a Thursday.
It would make make sense to play us on Friday or Saturday night to give the army a chance to fly up.
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Going off previous finals, we play Saturday afternoon 4:20
Nope
Supposedly the AFL want all 1st week finals completed by Saturday
So likely to be
Thursday night
Friday night
Saturday arvo/twilight
Saturday night
No chance we play saturday arvo. Big drawing club will be at night.
The AFL would be so stupid to play us on a thursday, though we all know the afl are exactly that. I also cant ever remember an elimination final on a Thursday.
It would make make sense to play us on Friday or Saturday night to give the army a chance to fly up.
If I’m remembering correctly, the qualifying finals almost always take place before the elimination ones. So earliest we’ll play would be Saturday afternoon you’d think.
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yep.
wont be in the arvo, especially if its the pies.
il go with saturday night if its the lions and friday night if its the pies.
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Looks like it will be the Pies. Happy to play them if they play like have today. They've just crumbled under finals-like conditions.
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Bring on the absolute scum.
Revenge for 2018 begins..
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Hold that thought, they're choking again
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Hold that thought, they're choking again
Ninthton: A Legend is Born?
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It's Brisbane in Brisbane
Carlton blew it
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Lol Carlton :rollin
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Finals to played on Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday twilight and Saturday night according to Ch 7 earlier (as WP said previously).
Geelong vs Collingwood will likely be Thursday night.
I'm guessing Melbourne vs Sydney (or vice versa) will be Friday night and they will push the Elim Finals to Saturday. So we'll probably get Saturday night.
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Not overly confident but Brisbane have some outs.
You never know !
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Not overly confident but Brisbane have some outs.
You never know !
They really crapped the bed against Dees at the Gabba.
Take Rayner and Ainsworth out too.
Plus we live in their heads rent free.
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Any advice on tickets and flights.
Haven't done an interstate final before but going to try and make it to Gabba this year.
We are MCC members + Tiger 3 game members so don't think we get any priority. Any advice would be ace.
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Let's hope the bears turn up next week.
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Kissed on the youknowwhat this week. Playing Brisbane with no Rayner and Ainsworth. Then we beat Sydney, Pies and Melbourne. Premiers.
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Any advice on tickets and flights.
Haven't done an interstate final before but going to try and make it to Gabba this year.
We are MCC members + Tiger 3 game members so don't think we get any priority. Any advice would be ace.
You will receive any email from the club with your barcode.
No special priority conditions for weeks 1 to 3. Only thing is Members get first access
There is also a thread about finals tickets = FAQs
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Any advice on tickets and flights.
Haven't done an interstate final before but going to try and make it to Gabba this year.
We are MCC members + Tiger 3 game members so don't think we get any priority. Any advice would be ace.
You will receive any email from the club with your barcode.
No special priority conditions for weeks 1 to 3. Only thing is Members get first access
There is also a thread about finals tickets = FAQs
Here's the finals tickets info thread link, TigerLand.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=32178.0
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Thanks guys much appreciated the detailed info.
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Still no time or day for our 1st final
Just found out from friends up there that there is some river festival on the Saturday night and that is likely causing the delay in announcing
Looks like it ,as have to end up being Sunday :-[
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Still waiting ....
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/62276380.jpg)
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Still no time or day for our 1st final
Just found out from friends up there that there is some river festival on the Saturday night and that is likely causing the delay in announcing
Looks like it ,as have to end up being Sunday :-[
no way a sunday?
It's saying all games to be played 1-3 September?
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-fixture-2022-who-plays-who-schedule-bracket-dates-venues-times-tv-how-it-works-when-is-the-grand-final/news-story/19d2ed3163b08ddb8b36384522d9cfbb
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Still no time or day for our 1st final
Just found out from friends up there that there is some river festival on the Saturday night and that is likely causing the delay in announcing
Looks like it ,as have to end up being Sunday :-[
Just host it at the MCG instead and problem solved
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Still no time or day for our 1st final
Just found out from friends up there that there is some river festival on the Saturday night and that is likely causing the delay in announcing
Looks like it ,as have to end up being Sunday :-[
no way a sunday?
It's saying all games to be played 1-3 September?
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-fixture-2022-who-plays-who-schedule-bracket-dates-venues-times-tv-how-it-works-when-is-the-grand-final/news-story/19d2ed3163b08ddb8b36384522d9cfbb
Yes, just saying what friends in Brisbane were saying. Due to this river thing, it would need to be Sunday or Saturday twilight
Daniel Cherny on Twitter just said Cats/Pies will be the Saturday twilight game. And others have said the Freo game will be the Saturday night game
So looks like we might get the Friday night game :pray :pray
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Thursday night?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FarklCHUUAAxzCO?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/ExiledVictorian/status/1561311553957163008
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FarklCHUUAAxzCO?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/ExiledVictorian/status/1561311553957163008
Confirmed. That pic is from the AFL website (fixture page). So we're playing a Thursday night.
https://www.afl.com.au/fixture?Competition=1&CompSeason=43&MatchTimezone=VENUE_TIME&Regions=2&ShowBettingOdds=1&GameWeeks=24&Teams=1&Venues=13#byround
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well its better than a sunday but still dumb
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Finals Week 1 • Brisbane Lions v Richmond
Thursday 1 September 2022 • 7:20 PM (GMT+10)
GABBA, Brisbane
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4740
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Thursday night
What shambles
But I'll take it
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Thursday night
What shambles
But I'll take it
yep. Booked the return home on sunday as soon as the baggas choked, and accomodation during the week across from the gabba which is now sold out
All ready. :gotigers
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Now on the main AFL website page.
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2022/08/21/7b6c9aa5-bb75-46b1-bf7b-c05dd3f5b7f7/2022_finals_pathway_W1_MelbvSyd?width=952)
WEEK ONE FINALS FIXTURE
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 1
Second elimination final
Brisbane v Richmond at The Gabba, 7.20pm AEST
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 2
Second qualifying final
Melbourne v Sydney at the MCG, 7.50pm AEST
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 3
First qualifying final
Geelong v Collingwood at the MCG, 4.35pm AEST
First elimination final
Fremantle v Western Bulldogs at Optus Stadium, 6.10pm AWST
https://www.afl.com.au/news/827656/the-finals-are-here-who-plays-who-week-one-fixture-revealed
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Now on the main AFL website page.
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2022/08/21/7b6c9aa5-bb75-46b1-bf7b-c05dd3f5b7f7/2022_finals_pathway_W1_MelbvSyd?width=952)
WEEK ONE FINALS FIXTURE
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 1
Second elimination final
Brisbane v Richmond at The Gabba, 7.20pm AEST
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 2
Second qualifying final
Melbourne v Sydney at the MCG, 7.50pm AEST
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 3
First qualifying final
Geelong v Collingwood at the MCG, 4.35pm AEST
First elimination final
Fremantle v Western Bulldogs at Optus Stadium, 6.10pm AWST
https://www.afl.com.au/news/827656/the-finals-are-here-who-plays-who-week-one-fixture-revealed
So my predicted path is Brisbane then Sydney then Geelong then Melbourne. Seems do-able.
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Geesook in a Prelim again. They'll poo the bed if that happens
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Do we get a home final in week 2 if we beat the Lions and Sydney lose to Melbourne? Or do we go to Sydney?
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Do we get a home final in week 2 if we beat the Lions and Sydney lose to Melbourne? Or do we go to Sydney?
Go to Sydney
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Yikes! This is gonna be some mountain. Good thing we established base camp.
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Geesook in a Prelim again. They'll poo the bed if that happens
Do Geelong only complain about a home final when it’s us. Never heard it once prior to 2017 but every time we played them they were sooking it up no end.
I’m keeping a tab this season on how many times I hear an official complaint about it
Current tally = 0
Let’s see if it starts again if we happen to see them again this September :rollin
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Yikes! This is gonna be some mountain. Good thing we established base camp.
My thoughts too.
Think we can beat the fake tough guys this week coming but a semi vs Dees or Swans will be damned tough. Tougher than a prelim vs Cats I reckon.
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For the record, this game will fall on the birthday anniversaries of Maurice Rioli, and Maurice Rioli Jnr.
https://twitter.com/rhettrospective/status/1561318534310793216
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For the record, this game will fall on the birthday anniversaries of Maurice Rioli, and Maurice Rioli Jnr.
https://twitter.com/rhettrospective/status/1561318534310793216
That’s incredible.
Bit of extra motivation.
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One Week at a time Richmond.
Starting next Thursday!
Get the job done Richmond.
4 to go ...
:gotigers
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Has anyone received email from the club regarding tickets yet?
I believe they go on sale tomorrow but havent got an email as yet
Cheers.
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Has anyone received email from the club regarding tickets yet?
I believe they go on sale tomorrow but havent got an email as yet
Cheers.
Yup got one about 90mins ago. Tickets on sale tomorrow from 3pm I believe.
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Has anyone received email from the club regarding tickets yet?
I believe they go on sale tomorrow but havent got an email as yet
Cheers.
Yup got one about 90mins ago. Tickets on sale tomorrow from 3pm I believe.
10am for members
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Brisbane will attempt to free Cam Rayner for its elimination final against Richmond when it challenges his one-match suspension at the tribunal.
The Lions confirmed on Monday they would fight the careless conduct charge that stemmed from his tackle on Melbourne's Ben Brown, however the club will accept defender Noah Answerth's suspension for his body blow to Alex Neal-Bullen.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/828929/update-brisbane-will-roll-the-dice-at-the-tribunal
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Apparently we got shunted to Thursday night because Geelong wanted the Saturday twilight spot as they told the AFL it's the best time for their supporters to travel from Geelong to the MCG and get home afterwards at a reasonable hour.
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Apparently we got shunted to Thursday night because Geelong wanted the Saturday twilight spot as they told the AFL it's the best time for their supporters to travel from Geelong to the MCG and get home afterwards at a reasonable hour.
Shunted?
It’s the best
Gives the oldies an extra day of rest than Sydney/Melbourne if we get the job done …
Bigger picture
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I mean they did finish top. Fair enough they get the time slot they want.
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Got 'em!
got our tickets for the Gabba final - very easy for a change. No crashes, no long wait to actually get onto the website. Well done Ticketmaster :clapping
totally ripped of for flights but a story for another day .... ;D
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Got mine too
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Rayner's failed to overturn his suspension. So he won't be playing.
GUILTY
Cam Rayner will miss the elimination final against Richmond after his rough conduct charge was upheld.
Chair Jeff Gleeson said it was an "inherently dangerous" tackle and was satisfied that it was medium impact, not low, as the Lions argued.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/829150/live-blog-can-lions-free-rayner-for-do-or-die-final-
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Rayner and Ainsworth have played 43 games between them this season, I believe. Big outs.
(And we should have a big in ...)
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May as well just go the next level like Carlton with Cripps
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you would think they learnt from the cripps fiasco. Imagine being rolled twice and especially given what transpired with Zorko, which was sfa.
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you would think they learnt from the cripps fiasco. Imagine being rolled twice and especially given what transpired with Zorko, which was sfa.
Don't want to get into an argument with you Frankie
But are you saying Zorko's sledge on the weekend was OK? That he didn't cross the line?
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you would think they learnt from the cripps fiasco. Imagine being rolled twice and especially given what transpired with Zorko, which was sfa.
Don't want to get into an argument with you Frankie
But are you saying Zorko's sledge on the weekend was OK? That he didn't cross the line?
I think you misunderstood, and my wording should have read “what penalty transpired with Zorko which was sfa”
On my opinion on what Zorko said I didn’t think its all that bad, as it’s not true. Had plenty of folk say your mum stuff to me and I didn’t give a poo. That’s me and I’m not the AFL, who are hypocrites. If that was Tony Green the penalty wouldn’t have been play on.
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I fondly remember headland punching selwood in the head
Ahh fond days when men were men
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I fondly remember headland punching selwood in the head
Ahh fond days when men were men
Great times Chucky.
Now apparently men can menstruate.
I’m so glad I got to grow up in a more normal era when there wasn’t thought police and stupid laws that lock people up in high security prison in solitary confinement at Christmas for not staying at Grandmas house. :rollin
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I fondly remember headland punching selwood in the head
Ahh fond days when men were men
Great times Chucky.
Now apparently men can menstruate.
I’m so glad I got to grow up in a more normal era when there wasn’t thought police and stupid laws that lock people up in high security prison in solitary confinement at Christmas for not staying at Grandmas house. :rollin
lol x 2
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I fondly remember headland punching selwood in the head
Ahh fond days when men were men
Great times Chucky.
Now apparently men can menstruate.
I’m so glad I got to grow up in a more normal era when there wasn’t thought police and stupid laws that lock people up in high security prison in solitary confinement at Christmas for not staying at Grandmas house. :rollin
Silly left has been trying to have menstruation leave implemented for a while now so if that goes through I'll be cashing in on it haha
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you would think they learnt from the cripps fiasco. Imagine being rolled twice and especially given what transpired with Zorko, which was sfa.
Don't want to get into an argument with you Frankie
But are you saying Zorko's sledge on the weekend was OK? That he didn't cross the line?
I think you misunderstood, and my wording should have read “what penalty transpired with Zorko which was sfa”
On my opinion on what Zorko said I didn’t think its all that bad, as it’s not true. Had plenty of folk say your mum stuff to me and I didn’t give a poo. That’s me and I’m not the AFL, who are hypocrites. If that was Tony Green the penalty wouldn’t have been play on.
Yes I did, so thank you
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Richmond have won just one of their last three games at the Gabba - but 12 of their last 14, including a flag.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fa_dMjEUcAEcUEH?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/triplemfooty/status/1563028470350786562
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If we dont beat brisbane with how theyre going and with there outs itll be a total disappointment. We should win by 40 points +.
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Brisbane are looking to turn around a rough recent finals record in their elimination final against Richmond next Thursday night.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fa_cWelUsAAwCkB?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/triplemfooty/status/1562986940726747136
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The Tigers have not won an elimination final since they beat South Melbourne in 1977, but they will take heart from knowing they played four finals on the way to winning the 2020 flag. They have also won 10 of their past 12 finals while the Lions have won just one of their past six finals, with four of their losses at the Gabba. The Lions’ only finals win in those matches was against the Tigers at the Gabba in 2020.
Lynch expects a tough battle but said they won’t be engaging in unnecessary verbal sparring with Lions captain Dayne Zorko who had to apologise for an inappropriate comment he made to Melbourne defender Harrison Petty last week.
“What I do know is Dayne Zorko is a classy player and you probably don’t want to fire him up too much,” Lynch said.
“I’ve played against him quite a number of times, especially [when] at Gold Coast, and he’s a proven performer.”
The Tigers reeled in a 42-point deficit to beat the Lions in round 20, but Lynch said both sides would be hoping to improve on that performance as there were positives and negatives to come out of it.
“Brisbane are a tough side up there and they’ve proven over the last four or five years at the Gabba they’re tough to beat,” Lynch said.
“We won’t be daunted by going up there because we’re familiar with it but we’ve got to respect them.”
Source: The Age (https://www.watoday.com.au/sport/afl/lynch-a-certain-starter-against-the-lions-dusty-has-one-more-session-to-tick-off-20220827-p5bd77.html)
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Cornes tipping Brisbane. Lloyd and Nathan Brown tipping us.
"It's the biggest week for Brisbane."
Why the Lions are the team 'under the most pressure' heading into this year's finals series.
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1563703265761574914
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Chris Fagan confirmed this morning that Marcus Adams wont play, actually said he wont play again this year (hopefully as this will be their last game :shh)
Good result for us on top of Answorth and Rayner being suspended.
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Chris Fagan confirmed this morning that Marcus Adams wont play, actually said he wont play again this year (hopefully as this will be their last game :shh)
Good result for us on top of Answorth and Rayner being suspended.
Meanwhile we are adding Dusty lol. They must be pooting themselves
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Just bring pressure, pressure and more pressure. They can't handle it.
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Just bring pressure, pressure and more pressure. They can't handle it.
Bingo
And not only can they not handle it but it leads to their ill-discipline
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Id like to see a good 40 point win. A big win will be a confidence boost as we will have to face big tests if we get past the lions.
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Brisbane’s Marcus Adams will not play again in 2022.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/28/lions-defender-ruled-out-for-remainder-of-season/
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For those who will be in Brisbane on Wednesday.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbSfyk_aIAAxQfS?format=png&name=small)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1564050937123328000
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Buckley ran the rule over the match and wondered how the Lions will be able to stop Damien Hardwick’s visiting Tigers in attack.
“The two heaviest scoring teams in the competition,” he said on SEN Breakfast.
“My question is - Can Brisbane actually defend Richmond’s offence?
“I’m not as concerned about Richmond defending Brisbane as I am about Brisbane being able to defend.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/28/the-concerns-for-the-leaking-lions-ahead-of-richmond-final/
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Tigers confident of Gabba win
By Josh Gabelich
afl.com.au
29 August 2022
Damien Hardwick's men have lost only two games at the Gabba since 2005 and won the 2020 Grand Final against Geelong at the ground, after the season relocated from Victoria during the coronavirus pandemic.
Brisbane has won the past two encounters at the Gabba – round 10 by 28 points and the 2020 qualifying final by 15 points – but the Tigers defeated them by 47 points in the 2019 qualifying final.
Vlastuin, who has won three premierships and 10 of 15 finals across his 189-game career in yellow and black, said the Tigers head to Queensland with the confidence they can perform at the ground, especially after recovering from 42 points down in round 20 to defeat the Lions at the MCG.
"We are just familiar with that ground. We've played a few big finals up there against Brisbane as well. Think we are one win each," he said.
"There is confidence that we've done it before, we know what the crowd's like, we know what the stadium's like. We travel really well, so we have a lot of confidence."
With three premiership cups on display inside reception at the Swinburne Centre, all the pressure is on Brisbane heading into Thursday night.
The Lions have won only one of six finals since Fagan took on the role at the end of 2016 and helped turned the club around. They have lost four of those finals at the Gabba, exiting out of the finals in straight sets twice.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/832501/get-set-for-september-dusty-tigers-confident-of-gabba-win
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Id like to see a good 40 point win. A big win will be a confidence boost as we will have to face big tests if we get past the lions.
Let's just get the win and the margin will take care of itself
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We need to scare the pants of the opposition
100 plus win. Bury the bastards.
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They nearly smashed us a few weeks ago.. I would just be happy to get the win. Won’t be surprised at all if we can’t manage it
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They nearly smashed us a few weeks ago.. I would just be happy to get the win. Won’t be surprised at all if we can’t manage it
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We are their grand final every time too. They love having a go at us
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Yes it will be a good chance for Mighty Mitch Robinson and his mob to 'prove themselves' before bouncing out the next week away from home.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbN_9WCXgAAC4aJ?format=jpg&name=large)
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2022-a-complete-breakdown-of-all-four-afl-finals-from-key-players-to-injuries-and-everything-in-between/news-story/945165d717ea4cd5bc742db9a92129ff
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From Footy Classified:
Caro:
If Richmond have an Achilles heal it's in defence and obviously Grimes has been out for a while. It's a more inexperienced defence. Tarrant has come in, a slow start but has finished the season pretty well. If Brisbane perform up forward you would think they might just get them.
Cornes:
I think you're right, Caro. That's the vulnerability of Richmond - their defence - particularly with Grimes out of there. Robbie Tarrant you mentioned did start slowly but I think he's been pretty solid since probably the halfway point of the year. You mentioned Daniher, Lloydy, and he probably does get that match-up. You don't want to get in a wrestle with Tarrant as he would love that. He's 33 years of age. Clearly his speed and agility will be his weakness as you're seeing there (from the vision). If Daniher gets up the field as he did early in the game last time and tries to turn Tarrant around then Tarrant could be in a bit of trouble. Just don't just stand there and wrestle with Robbie Tarrant. After that, if Tarrant is beaten, then there's not much else in the key defensive posts at the Tigers.
Go to 0:43 min mark: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1564218398275506178
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Lions plan to avoid Tigers AFL shoot out
By Murray Wenzel
Tenterfield Star
August 30 2022 - 3:13pm
What Charlie Cameron does when Richmond have the ball might be just as crucial as what the Brisbane small forward does with it in their AFL elimination final.
The Lions remain one of the competition's best attacking sides but will meet their offensive match on Thursday at the Gabba.
So, missing key defensive personnel and battling to restrict opponents after limping into the finals in sixth, they are determined to avoid a shoot-out with the multi-pronged Tigers.
Tall defender Marcus Adams (concussion), hard-edged teammate Noah Answerth and game-breaking midfielder Cam Rayner (suspended) won't play.
It leaves the hosts vulnerable to a Tigers attack led by Tom Lynch and Jack Riewoldt and supported by Shai Bolton, Noah Cumberland, Maurice Rioli Jnr and the returning Dustin Martin.
While ranked second in points scored, Brisbane are 10th in points conceded, have gone 7-6 on the run into the finals and 1-5 in the last three post-seasons.
Coach Chris Fagan could call on 18-year-old Darcy Wilmot to debut in Answerth's place, with the inexperienced Jack Payne and Harris Andrews left to contend with the Tigers' talls.
"You see it in the media, can't help that but you just control what you can," Cameron said of the critics lining up to write his side off.
"For us this week has been about actions; there is always pressure there, it's just about how you handle it and I'm looking forward to it.
"These are the moments you play footy for, finals and big moments."
Cameron will be called on to do the damage up front but he said the forward line's efforts once Richmond earn possession could shape the contest.
"It starts in our forward 50, blocking it in," he said.
"We want to set the tone there with our pressure. That'll be huge and if we can bring that for four quarters it takes some pressure off our defence.
"It could be a shoot-out but we don't want it to be; we need to apply the pressure, win the contested ball, lock it in and set the tone."
Some solace for Brisbane is that their only finals win under coach Chris Fagan came against Richmond in 2020.
The flip side is that the Tigers recovered to win the flag that year while Brisbane were rolled in the preliminary final.
https://www.tenterfieldstar.com.au/story/7882264/lions-plan-to-avoid-tigers-afl-shoot-out/?cs=11363
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MEGA-PREVIEW: Lions v Tigers, stats that matter, who wins and why
It'll be curtains for the loser. Get ready for a massive rumble in the jungle.
By Michael Whiting
afl.com.au
30 August 2022
SUMMARY
This is the third time in four years these teams will meet in a final at the Gabba, and just like 2019 and 2020, this match-up of the competition's two highest scoring teams is a tantalising one. The Tigers head north full of confidence, with superstar Dustin Martin likely to return to a team that has won its past four matches. The quick ball movement after forcing turnovers that characterised their three premierships is back, with spearhead Tom Lynch in career-best form and first-time All-Australian Shai Bolton a match-up headache. Brisbane has put together another strong season, but the 58-point hiding from Melbourne in the final round and its 1-5 finals record the past three years hangs over its head entering September. The Lions are missing Cam Rayner and Noah Answerth through suspension and Marcus Adams with concussion, but Chris Fagan's men are a difficult proposition at home and have match-winning weapons on all three lines.
Where and when: The Gabba, Thursday September 1, 7.20pm AEST
WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR?
Round 20: Richmond 15.14 (104) defeated Brisbane 14.13 (97) at the MCG
The ultimate 'game of two halves', Richmond was able to overturn a 36-point half-time deficit to run over Brisbane and eke out a memorable win in one of the games of the season. Lynch kicked four second-half goals, Noah Cumberland kicked five and Bolton was influential. The Lions played some of their best football of the season for two quarters but couldn't maintain it when the Tiger surge came.
WHAT TO WATCH FOR
Brisbane
The Lions' intensity around the contest and their forward half pressure is usually a great indicator for them. They have conceded too many points in the second half of the season, with most of the problems stemming from opponents transitioning the ball from their defensive 50 or scoring easily from centre clearances. When Lachie Neale, Jarryd Lyons, Rhys Mathieson, Zac Bailey and Charlie Cameron hunt with intensity in both the midfield and forward, the Lions are extremely difficult to beat.
Richmond
Just like they did to Brisbane in the round 20 comeback, the Tigers love to feast on turnovers. They are prepared to lose the clearance count if it allows them to set up behind the ball, intercept and then take off with Daniel Rioli from half-back and Dion Prestia, Shai Bolton, Marlion Pickett and others spreading quickly to provide options.
THE STATS THAT MATTER
Brisbane
The Lions have got first use of the ball better than any team in the past month, winning centre clearances by an average of six a game. However, the problems have come defensively, where they've conceded an average of 89 points a game since round 15 – ranked 15th in the AFL. Eric Hipwood has kicked four goals in each of his past two outings against the Tigers.
Richmond
The Tigers are back to their intercepting best, scoring 70 points a game from intercepts in the past four weeks, which ranks them second in the League. The headaches come at centre bounce though, where they've conceded the second most points a game, 14, from that source. With 36 goals apiece in home and away matches, Jack Riewoldt and Tom Lynch have had more goalkicking success than any players in the competition against Brisbane since 2015.
IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR…
Brisbane
All eyes will be on captain Dayne Zorko after the furore following his round 23 incident with Melbourne's Harrison Petty. Aside from needing a focused skipper, the Lions really need the energy and spark Zorko provides. He's arguably their best pressure player and a great decision-maker with ball-in-hand and needs to lead his team from the front.
Richmond
The Tigers have match winners all over the field, but perhaps it's Liam Baker that could play the biggest role on Thursday night. Baker looks the most likely option to defend Lions sharpshooter Charlie Cameron, who has made a habit of coming up big in finals. Cameron kicked eight goals in two finals last season and bagged three when the Lions overcame the Tigers in 2020 in the qualifying final.
PREDICTION
Richmond by 12 points.
This could genuinely go either way, but the upheaval in Brisbane's defence along with the return of Richmond's punishing of opposition turnovers might just be enough for them to sneak home.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/832548/mega-preview-lions-v-tigers-stats-that-matter-who-wins-and-why
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Surely Rioli plays on Cameron and not Baker?
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Your club's one-wood: The KPIs each finalist excels in
By Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
31 August 2022
BRISBANE V RICHMOND, ELIMINATION FINAL
Brisbane
The Lions rank No.2 across three of the KPIs identified by Champion Data, but don't lead the competition in any. Their ability to transition the ball from defence to attack is a major strength, turning rebound 50s to inside 50s at a rate of 27.7 per cent. Once the ball is locked in their forward half, they are better than most at scoring from a stoppage, accruing 19.4 points a game from that source. Accuracy has been a concern for some players in the past, but as a team the Lions rank second for shot at goal accuracy (52.5 per cent).
Richmond
The Tigers are a force once the opposition turns the ball over. This is due to both their attacking mindset when they win possession and their ability to force turnovers in dangerous positions. They rank No.2 for forward-half intercepts (25.6), making it easier to score from that source, and No.2 for scores from turnover differential (+17.8 ). Their style and talent in the forward half allows them to score at a high rate per forward entry, hitting the scoreboard from 45.9 per cent of their inside 50s (No.3 in the AFL).
https://www.afl.com.au/news/832635/your-club-s-one-wood-the-kpis-each-finalist-excels-in
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Brisbane coach Chris Fagan says captain Dayne Zorko should be ready for Richmond to come after him physically in Thursday night's elimination final at the Gabba.
Fagan said it was "Richmond's call" whether it went after Zorko verbally, but said his skipper should be ready for some physicality.
Entering his fourth straight finals campaign, Fagan said he's tired of talking about the club's one-and-five record under his watch.
"They're not stupid, the players, they know the record, but to be honest I'm sort of sick of it," he said.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/832755/get-ready-dayne-lions-brace-for-ferocious-tigers-in-elimination-battle
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Players like Zorko need attention for their insults to work ... just ignore him & wait for the meltdown ... :whistle
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Brisbane midfielder Jarryd Lyons out injured as well.
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Players like Zorko need attention for their insults to work ... just ignore him & wait for the meltdown ... :whistle
Zorko is the poor man's rude Human Meatball.
Not worthy of added attention.
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Brisbane v Richmond - Elimination Final Preview
Hugh Fitzpatrick
SEN
31 August 2022
Brisbane and Richmond will kick off the 2022 finals on Thursday night at the Gabba.
The Tigers boast an unbelievable record over the Lions, winning 17 of the past 19 matches, making them the justified favourites.
Despite Richmond's record, the last four games between the two have been even, sharing a 2-2 record with the Lions, claiming both those wins at the Gabba.
Brisbane’s forward line poses a legitimate threat to the Tigers.
Joe Daniher, Eric Hipwood and Dan McStay will stretch the defence of Robbie Tarrant, Noah Balta and Nathan Broad. If the Lions trio can get on top, Damien Hardwick will start worrying.
As for the Tigers, they head into the finals in good form, winning their last four games by an average of 43 points.
They also welcome back the best finals player to ever play the game in Dustin Martin. If Dusty gets rolling, we know what happens.
Adding more spice to this clash, we can’t wait to see Zac Bailey and Shai Bolton light it up on the big stage. These two are made for finals and will be instrumental if their sides are to get the job done.
These two teams know each other inside out, they have met in two Qualifying Finals since 2019, both at the Gabba, with each side winning one.
This one takes place at the Gabba, which you think would give Brisbane an edge.
Tip: Brisbane by 24 points.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/31/who-will-win-and-why-the-predictions-and-tips-for-finals-week-one/
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Umpires for tomorrow night:
21 - Simon Meredith
23 - Robert Findlay
32 - Jacob Mollison
https://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Week-1-Finals.pdf
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Meredith is one of the best
So that's something
Mollison is either good or shocking
Findlay? Pass
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Umpires for tomorrow night:
21 - Simon Meredith
23 - Robert Findlay
32 - Jacob Mollison
https://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Week-1-Finals.pdf
FMD Mollison - get the Vaseline ready that campaigner hates us.
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Floss interviews our six finals debutants - Miller, Cumberland, Gibcus, Ross, Maurice and Sonsie.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1564907747803508737
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Ross Lyon and Matthew Lloyd's preview:
"Their coaching staff is exceptional."
Ross Lyon shows the key changes the Tigers made in the second half of their last match against Brisbane, which will be key to their elimination final.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1564951127828865027
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Will Dusty be rusty? Are the Lions for real?
Jon Pierik
The Age
September 1, 2022
Tom Lynch, Joe Daniher and, dare we say, Dustin Martin loom large in Thursday night’s elimination final, but can the Lions overcome their poor finals record?
Jon Pierik looks at the key questions.
Are the Lions for real?
That’s the big question heading into September. They appeared set for a top-four finish but slipped to sixth, having leaked too many goals over the final month of the season. Team defence, as coach Chris Fagan conceded, has been an issue. The absence of Marcus Adams (concussion) is a major blow, leaving Harris Andrews as the key man in defence. Their 1-5 win-loss record through the finals over the past three years reeks of a team lacking in belief when the stakes are at their greatest. Two defeats to Melbourne and a stinging loss to the Tigers in round 20, the latter having coughed up a 42-point lead, means this clash shapes as much as a psychological battle as it is physical against a side that has been there and done that - on three occasions.
Is home ground an advantage for the Lions?
It should be but the “Gabbatoir” has been anything but in recent finals. The Lions have lost four times at home under Fagan, in part because of their inaccuracy in front of goal. This offsets the win they had over the Tigers in the 2020 qualifying final. However, the Lions have lost only twice in 11 games there this season, and won nine of their last 10 there last year. It’s now time to get the job done when it matters the most.
Will Dusty be rusty?
Perhaps, but it’s not a major concern. It’s been more than nine weeks since Martin played his last game, the man regarded as the best finals performer, perhaps of all time, hampered by a hamstring strain. There had been a setback or two in his recovery but he has lifted his intensity over the past fortnight, and has trained strongly. Even if Dusty is not quite match fit, any defender - Brandon Starcevich is likely to spend time on him - will be nervous when he lines up inside attacking 50. The three-time Norm Smith medallist only needs to have 15 or so touches to have a major impact, and if left one-out it could take only one goal from him to turn the contest.
Can the Lions stop Lynch?
Having recovered from an adductor issue, Lynch is the man who could tear this game apart. He has been a man on a mission over the past month, booting 21 goals in four games (including four against the Lions in round 20) since returning from a hamstring strain. Harris Andrews is likely to get the job on him but, even if he is quiet, the Tigers have weapons aplenty. Noah Cumberland booted five goals when the teams last met, and there’s Jack Riewoldt and Shai Bolton. And here comes Dusty. It’s an imposing forward line - the Lions will be under pressure.
Can Joe take a stand?
While the Tigers have a deep forward line, and are the league’s No.1 scoring side, the Lions are No.2 for scoring. Matthew Lloyd has put some heat on Daniher to take a stand. He has 36 goals this season, behind small forward Charlie Cameron (47), but had a finals campaign to forget last year, managing only one major in a straight-sets exit. He had only six touches in the semi-final loss to the Western Bulldogs, far from good enough for a high-priced, recruit. It’s now time for the former Bomber to deliver.
What the coaches say
Chris Fagan:
“I look at the Richmond team that we play and remember back when ‘Dimma’ [Damien Hardwick] got them into three elimination finals in a row and they couldn’t actually win and then they missed the finals completely then came out and won the premiership the year after that. I’m a bit of a historian on the game, and I look at teams and their progression towards hopefully winning premierships, and usually there’s a few disappointments along the way, and I feel like we’ve had those in the last three years.”
Damien Hardwick:
“He [Dustin Martin] will play predominantly forward. We know he’s played that role before and he’s quite capable. Against Brisbane he’s had some really good games like that. What we do know is that players of Dustin’s ilk put themselves where they need to be.”
Odds
Richmond: $1.72
Brisbane: $2.15
Source: Pointsbet
Verdict
Richmond by eight points.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/will-dusty-be-rusty-are-the-lions-for-real-20220831-p5be3s.html
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Fox Footy’s Leigh Montagna and David King preview where the matches will be won and lost this weekend.
BRISBANE V RICHMOND ........ (6th v 7th, Thursday night, Gabba)
The Lions and Tigers will clash in an elimination final that pits the two top scoring teams of the competition against each other.
But Montagna warns the match won’t be the shootout many are predicting.
“The talk about this game being a shootout doesn’t stack up. In the last five finals series, only one game has had two teams kick 80 points or more,” he said.
Statistics show both Brisbane and Richmond are struggling defensively, with the Lions ranked 11th in opposition defensive 50 to inside 50 and the Tigers in 12th.
Opposition scores per entry sees Brisbane in 12th and Richmond 13th.
“Both those numbers are really poor for both those teams playing in finals,” Montagna lamented.
“We know these two teams can score on offence, but who is going to stand up defensively in a final?
“That’s where the game is going to be won and lost.
“It’s the team that can knuckle down defensively and stop a team scoring on turnover that will win the game.
“The only way I think Brisbane can really get a hold of Richmond is really dominate clearance.”
When the two teams last met, the Tigers managed to score at over 60 per cent when they went inside 50 in the second half.
King said the Lions were struggling to stop opposition scores – and it was an ongoing issue.
“Their whole back six are struggling. In their defensive 50 they are 18th in the competition over the last six weeks at winning a contest,” he said.
“Richmond right now will take control in their forward 50 against Brisbane’s D50 - absolutely no doubt.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/why-you-cant-draw-blood-from-swans-freo-factor-that-lies-key-to-all-four-afl-finals/news-story/c3a292ce7310a53865eea376cdbaa7b0
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Nail our chances
Good start
Pressure and harassment
Team effort
Use our run and carry
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Tiger supporters taking over Brisbane :thumbsup.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fbi_PhaaUAA_ja0?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/leachitup/status/1565211150446645248
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What’s the name of the pub?
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What’s the name of the pub?
Pig 'N' Whistle West End.
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(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f42f.png) Perfect night for it. (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f64c-1f3fc.png)
#AFLLionsTigers #GoTiges #Gabba
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https://twitter.com/CherylCritchley/status/1565245569500856320
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Looks glorious. Jealous!
Any news on the sub yet?
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GO TIGES
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Any news on the sub yet?
Edwards the sub.
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First Final Feels (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f603.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbjmAd2UsAEaRbF?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1565253790541828096
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What does the weather look like up there?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbjoD7rVsAA6Fix?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1565256057340891136
United we stand :thumbsup.
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What does the weather look like up there?
Brisbane area
Partly cloudy. Light winds.
All clear on the B.O.M. radar.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1565246633301856257
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We need to match or better them in the clearances and win the territory battle as our forward line should be too strong and potent. Hard at the footy, bring the pressure, don't give away dumb 50s (as we did in the 2020 QF), and make sure we finish off and kick straight of course.
:gotigers
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Here we go boys!!!
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Don't let Cameron and Daniher get a sniff
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Here we go boys!!!
I'm nervous. Urgh.
GO TIGES!! :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
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Toey as a Roman sandal here
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Great start from ross. We need this consistently !
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Ross to Cotch 45 out who crosses to Dan Rioli 40 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 1.0-6
Bris 0.0-0
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Dan the man!!!!!
Would be useful if Oscar was out with concussion too, not that you wish it on anyone (bar maybe Robinson lol)
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Yep, some great work by Ross early
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Broad defensive intercept. Off to Short who finds Sonsie on the wing. Hands to Dan who finds Maurice on the boundary 35 out. Misses.
7 - 0
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McInerney subbed off with concussion for the Lions.
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Ordinary run out of D50 here and gifted them a soft goal
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Sonsie. Silly but he's started well. Come on lads.
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Nank is now the most important player on the field!
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Lynch clever to Bolton who finds Maurice 15 out. Hands over to DUSTY = Goal! :gotigers
Rich 2.1-13
Bris 1.0-6
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Where's our forward crumbers? Need to be front and square. Allowing the Lions to clear it once it hits the ground.
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Dusty perfect kick to Jack's advantage in the contest 45 out. Misses left.
14 - 8
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How was that not high on Jack there? ::)
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Seeing our young blokes battling with the pressure right now
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Jack arms chopped no free ::).
We're making mistakes but that doesn't excuse the umps not paying frees to us.
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Yeah some young boys panicking a bit. They'll work into the game.
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Bit quick for a few young fellas at the moment but they are getting their hands on it and not spectating. If we can tidy up disposals and hit a few targets we’ll be ok.
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Well done Gibcus. To Sonsie. To Dusty but he misses from the pocket.
15 all.
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Some better work from Gibcus, Miller and Sonsie. Boys will be fine
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These umps might as well be wearing morone and blue. Red hot on us with HTB while Andrews there was let off ::).
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We are having a red hot crack.
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Should have been HTB there on HA but at least we got it back and COTCHINNNNM
Really feel like Nank had to lift with his tap work. Hitting it straight to the Lions blokes
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Captain Cotch :) :gotigers
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Cotch :gotigers
Needed that steadier.
Rich 3.3-21
Bris 2.3-15
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Umps are having a mare.
Andrews clear holding the ball. Then 3 Lions players yelling and screaming at umps for Balta mark before Cotchin goal.. Dissent allowed now? Watch us get pinged for it
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Classic Pickett :D
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Neale sooks at umps then Pickett lies him down.
Mug
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Deliberate against Brisbane. Bolton from the pocket goals! :gotigers
Rich 4.3-27
Bris 2.3-15
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Lynch is getting gorilla’d up forward and zero love from the umpires.
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So Brisbane are on track for 30+ free kicks tonight. Brilliant. ::)
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What about Jack and Lynch getting frees for chopping of the arm ::)
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Lynch would kick 170 a year if he got those frees
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Fmd Nank has got to find a Richmond jumper against these part timers..
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What a joke.
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Frees: 4 - 10 ::)
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We are getting crucified. What was that free for?
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Yep umpires ordinary but we've got to be better
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What the actual F
Did you see the angle of Hipwoods run up?
He was at least 5-10m too far to the right and had straightened himself up lol.
All in all I think we look the better team just haven't capitalised
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Well done umpires. Make sure you give'm 40 free kicks for the match and break some records. Pathetic.
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Quarter time
Richmond 4.3-27
Brisbane/Umps 4.3-27
Goals: Bolton, Cotchin, Martin, D.Rioli
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stuff off umpires u cheating campaigners. stuff u pricks
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9-4 free kick count. Tantamount to cheating.
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Hope Maurice okay.
Our small and half forwards need to switch on defensively. Allowing the Lions to rebound too easily. We're not keeping the ball in our F50.
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Fricking schoolboy turnovers :banghead.
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We are fumbling a hell of a lot right now.
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Lol Bolton is a freak! :gotigers
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Bolton :gotigers
Rich 5.3-33
Bris 4.4-28
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I just spotted three possible free kicks to Richmond in 10 seconds that weren't paid. Umpires not looking to pay us anything but the obvious ones. Searching diligently for the Brisbane ones mind you.
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Nank should just take it out of the ruck as his taps are going Brisbane's way.
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Nank is having a mare.
Vs nobody. Stop tapping it towards Neale.
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So are his handballs.
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Nank is panicking in the middle. Been disgraceful
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Very open game. End to end.
Cotch hits up Lynch on the lead 35 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 6.3-39
Bris 5.4-34
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Nank has Neale for most disposals in his same game multi
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Very lucky that didn't cost us a goal Shai.
Floss rebounds to Short who hits up Cumberland 35 out. Misses.
40 - 34
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13-5
FMD
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It's those dumb schoolboy turnovers that a hurting us (that one by Ross).
:banghead
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Keep your head up Ross. You were playing well before that. Take the next opportunity.
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How could he "stand" when he wasn't yet on the mark ump? ::)
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13-5
FMD
It's a joke >:(.
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How's that 50... Lynch was asking where the mark was.. he wasn't even looking at Neale..
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Omg you gotta be kidding me ffs
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Deary me
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God Brisbane are pretenders. They need another 9 teammates out there just to even the score. Pathetic.
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Don't say umpires don't affect momentum.
Need to get our heads back in the game.
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Well done Jack! Against the flow. :gotigers
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Clearance and a goal. We need to get to work in the middle. Nank has been shocking. Get it out of the middle
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Prestia volley out of the middle and Jack marks 48 out. Great kick. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 7.4-46
Bris 7.5-47
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It’s a miracle we are down by 1 with the fumbles, and stupid decisions.
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Another HTB not paid to us >:(.
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Cumbo you ripper!!!
COME ON TIGES!!! :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
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Great response Jack and Noah.
We are getting a good old rogering from the umps tonight but F them we can win it anyway
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Yep, obvious and then the super soft free to Brisbane to get the ball going the other way.
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Up yours you cheating umps.
Cumberland intercepts and goals :gotigers
Rich 8.4-52
Bris 7.5-47
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Another HTB not paid to us >:(.
Disgusting isn't it. Clear as day fmd
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Good man Ross! Brilliant! :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
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Great finish from Ross !! Gotta say I’ve been pleased with his game
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This has to be said. The kids are lighting it up.
Sonsie on both feed, marking sensational. Ross great too. Cumberland, Rioli.
We have done very well with these boys so far.
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Balta good intercepting mark on the wing. Off to Dan to Ross who drills it from 48 :gotigers
Rich 9.4-58
Bris 7.5-47
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Jack Ross been excellent. Keep going son.
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This has to be said. The kids are lighting it up.
Sonsie on both feed, marking sensational. Ross great too. Cumberland, Rioli.
We have done very well with these boys so far.
Agreed and it was a great call to keep playing them this final whether we win or lose
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Pickett almost scored GOTY there lol.
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How good is Sonsie going to be. Class!
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Balta getting toweled up by Hipwood. Always behind
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Not quite happening for Dusty atm. I wonder if they should get him into the game more instead of isolating him up forward. It looked like he was 1 v 3 there.
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Gifting them soft goals out the back off our mishandling/turnovers :banghead.
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Miss Grimes shutting down Cameron.
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Again no HTB paid. If that was us tonight we don't get a second chance to dispose of the ball.
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Prestia subbed.
Hammy???
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Prestia subbed out :help
Not another soft tissue injury :(.
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Prestia is a big out. Win or lose it’s been a good experience for our kids
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Why has he been subbed? He’s running !
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No ice on him yet. Jogging OK.
Maybe tightness and they decided not to make him ping it in case we win?
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Half-time
Richmond 4.3 9.5-59
Brisbane 4.3 8.5-53
Goals: Bolton 2, Cotchin, Cumberland, Lynch, Martin, Riewoldt, D.Rioli, Ross.
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Another fail for fitness crew. How does this happen after a week's rest and up north.
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He is a massive out. Cotch is going to have to be super again and others have to step up
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I think dusty has to and he will step up. Sonesie playing so well, Ross going for it. We have the cattle to step up in prestige absence. Go tiges !!!
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Edwards a good sub option. Hopefully runs the game out well after a week off and only half a game to go
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Why did we sub with 1 min to go till half time. Ridiculous decision. Unless he had a broken leg, give him a half to get rubbed down.
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Why did we sub with 1 min to go till half time. Ridiculous decision. Unless he had a broken leg, give him a half to get rubbed down.
nah. He would be playing if he was right
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We might squeak thru this game without Prestia, but not the rest of the finals. Fingers crossed its something very minor.
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Stats to 1/2 time:
Disposals: 173 - 185 .... ( contested: 80 - 86 )
Efficiency%: 67 - 63
Marks: 44 - 26 .... ( contested: 8 - 2 )
Tackles: 30 - 26
Hitouts: 29 - 9
Clearances: 21 - 23 .... ( centre: 9 - 6 ; stoppages: 12 - 17 )
Inside 50s: 33 - 32
In50 Eff.%: 42 - 50
In50 marks: 10 - 4
In50 tackles: 4 - 2
Frees: 7 - 16 ::) :thumbsdown
Individual possies:
Sonsie 15
D.Rioli 13
Prestia 12 .... ( subbed out at HT )
Ross 12
Nank 11
Short 11
Floss 11
Pickett 10
Broad 9
Cotch 9
Bolton 7
Dusty 7
Kmac 7
M.Rioli 7
Baker 5
Balta 5
Cumberland 5
Gibcus 4
Lynch 4
Jack 4
Miller 2
Tarrant 2
Edwards 0 .... ( subbed on now )
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4740#player-stats
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We almost broke them with that burst in the second. We would have already broken them if it weren't for the umps. If we can do the same in the third and get a fair crack we should be right.
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Got to win or at least break even in the clearances especially centre clearances. They were dominating for a long patch in the 2nd qtr so all our attacks started from half-back. Once we won a few centre clearances we kicked those 3 quick goals in a row.
Part of it is defending the defensive side of stoppages and not giving up post-clearances. Nank is dominating the hitouts but we are coughing it up too much after getting first hands to ball and we're allowing the Lions mids to waltz out the front of the stoppage.
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Fmd Nank has got to find a Richmond jumper against these part timers..
So true. He’s been getting the ball but has been doing nothing with it.
Tracking at 27% disposal efficiency.
Really needs to step up as captain now.
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Poor defending. Didn't roll back.
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Shocking start
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Nank is killing us. Can we get a hitout to advantage ? Neale is reading every single one
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That's 50 you cheats. He kicked the ball well after the whistle >:(
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Criminal efforts on show from Short and Gibcus
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Kmac :gotigers
Rich 10.5-65
Bris 9.6-60
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Kmac of all people. Beautiful
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The tap work is beyond disgraceful
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Nank either should be grabbing it out of the ruck or thumping it forward.
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Dusty in the middle. Hands to Cotch lace out pass to Lynch 35 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 11.5-71
Bris 10.6-66
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The problem is, Nank is getting out jumped. But I can’t see how Neale can be in the right spot every time against 3 of our midfielders.
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Jack should probably retire.
Neale killing us, partially thanks to Nank
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Omg Rioli!
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Maurice :gotigers
Rich 12.5-77
Bris 10.6-66
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BRILLIANT Rioli. Well done young man
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The blonde ump is match fixing.
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Dunno how we are two goals up against momentum
Feel like I'll have a heart attack tonight haha
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What was that kick Nank? :huh
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Great spoil by Floss on Neale. Saved a goal :clapping.
We rebound. Maurice to Ross who hits up Lynch 30 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 13.5-83
Bris 10.7-67
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Lynch is ON ON ON
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Lynch is seizing the moment and it’s so great to see. Great kick from Ross too
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What was that kick Nank? :huh
Disgraceful!!
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Maurice needed to hand it off. Had the blinkers on and went to the contest.
Another quick BS soft 50 to them. And they get a goal from another ump gift :banghead
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Throw-in in our F50. Nank grabs it and snaps a point.
84 - 73
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That was a really weak 50, it’s such a grey area, so often the umpires let a player get 5m away and then in the same situation the just ping someone.
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Omg Gibcus ffs
Nobody going for the ball
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That is without doubt the worst goal I have ever seen Richmond concede.
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He has a bright future but geez gibcus has been poo. Fumbly bumbly
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3 poor efforts. First to allow McCluggage to just waltz out of the stoppage. Then Baker's fumble and then Gibcus falling over in defence.
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He slipped, but stuff!!!
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Robinson you dog!
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Clutch Sonsie
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Great composure from sonesie. Unbelievable season from him thus far
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Faux toughness by Mitch Robinson. Cheap late hit on Sonsie >:(.
Sonsie sticks it up him. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 14.6-90
Bris 12.7-79
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Geez our backline is leaky. Another weak goal to them
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Another brainfade by Baker. Twice lost the ball in the air in 3 mins :P.
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Where was Nank, not chasing Norman Bates forward
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Lucky there Nank. Why tap it back into open space with 15 secs left in the qtr?
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Fumble fumble fumble
We have let them close the gap again
I'm dying here fmd
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Another brainfade by Baker. Twice lost the ball in the air in 3 mins :P.
Yeah been off tonight. I'd put him in the middle.
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Fumble fumble fumble
We have let them close the gap again
I'm dying here fmd
I'm in tatters. Just need a fair crack from the umps to come home.
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How many goals have we gifted them with poor, panic football. Baker is getting his pants pulled down tonight.
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3/4 time
Richmond 4.3 9.5 14.6-90
Brisbane 4.3 8.5 13.7-85
Goals: Lynch 3, Bolton 2, Cotchin, Cumberland, Martin, Riewoldt, D.Rioli, Ross, McIntosh, M.Rioli, Sonsie.
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Gotta say. Playing at Gabba humid night. Where are the sweatbands and gloves that teams wear in Darwin. It's aslippery ball. This should have been thought about.
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Another brainfade by Baker. Twice lost the ball in the air in 3 mins :P.
Yeah been off tonight. I'd put him in the middle.
Agree.
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How many goals have we gifted them with poor, panic football. Baker is getting his pants pulled down tonight.
Baker has been really disappointing.
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Nank, Bolton, Baker need a big final quarter.
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Another spectacular fail from nank.
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Gibcus needs to start using his body in contests. Too many time he flies past a contest waving his arms at the ball when he could have put a knee in the marking opponents ribs and killed it.
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Neale still killing us
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Soft goals have killed us tonight.
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Uncontested mark to Mathison unforgivable
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Have to say I'd rather see Castagna out here than a few others based on their effort. Can't believe I said that
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Brainless start to the last quarter :banghead.
Schoolboy stuff. No one in the hot spot for the off kick and then letting the ball out the back of the pack :banghead
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I feel like the next 5 minutes will decide this game.
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What a stiffen goal from jack. Hasn’t had a huge game but has brought the ball to ground and competed.
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Wow! What a kick Jack! :gotigers
Rich 15.6-96
Bris 14.9-93
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Good boy Jack
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Somebody please get on Neale ffs
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Another soft centre clearance goal to them :banghead. Where's the defensive sweeper? :banghead
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Gibcus badly needs some time in the gym and a few angry pills
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Seriously, the double standards are ridiculous. They pay THAT as a free to Hopwood.
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You’re kidding me.
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Jack Riewoldt...kicking them from the stuffing grandstand
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Jack again. Clutch! :gotigers
Rich 16.6-102
Bris 15.9-99
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Omg Jack's goals tonight have been top shelf clutch moments.
I take back my comment about him hanging them up lol. Really rising to the occasion
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Seriously, the double standards are ridiculous. They pay THAT as a free to Hopwood.
Agreed. Lynch being destroyed by comparison
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Baker good mark but another mistake with the kick.
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Miller rucking better than Nank IMO
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Cumberland is a beaut
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Cumberland nice kick to Lynch 40 out. Misses.
103 - 99
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Poor set up for the down the line on the wing. Once Lynch or Jack couldn't mark we were left open :banghead.
Lucky they miss.
103 - 100
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And there is my point, Kynch gets held and an arm chop and it’s play on.
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We looked tired out there now
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Cumberland nice kick to Lynch 40 out. Misses.
103 - 99
Reckon that would have won the game
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Baker has lifted big time
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Miller inexperience. Didn't need to rush that.
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Great run down Sheds :clapping
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Baker :facepalm.
Do the basics right Tiges :scream
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Bloody hell, we look buggered
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Both teams having brainfades. Need poise Tiges.
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Lynchy!!!!
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Short from 60 goes long and Lynch marks in the pack between the goal and point post.
Very close. Lynch not celebrating. Reviewed. Called a goal by the goal ump.
Called a behind.
104 - 100
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What
The
F
Tigers
On the goal line ffs
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Delist everyone in that goalsquare
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That is a truely disgraceful effort
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You idiots! What a cock up! :banghead
4 Tigers and none couldn't punch it through :facepalm.
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Lynch fail
Backline fail
Surely seaosn over
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1 question, how does that call get overturned on any of that footage. Seriously!
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Sums up our year. Brainfades and mistakes in another close game cost us.
Threw that one away :banghead
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Gutted
Lynch should have nailed that
Backline should have killed it
Absolute fail and representative of our whole season. Opportunities gone missing.
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stuffen robbed. Daylight stuffen robbery. stuff you AFL and stuff you video review official u stuffen cheating idiot
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1 question, how does that call get overturned on any of that footage. Seriously!
It doesn't.
Terrible call. Umpire called it a goal.
No stuffing way was that footage in any way conclusive
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We did everything we could to lose that. And it worked. :banghead
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1 question, how does that call get overturned on any of that footage. Seriously!
My thoughts exactly. Goal umpire called it a goal & no video could prove him wrong, so why was it overturned?
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I had a feeling we would lose this game. People can’t mistake it for what it is, we are obviously transitioning. The experience for sonesie, gibcus, Rioli, Cumberland, ross is priceless. They all had their moments good and bad. Move onto next year folks ! Lots to be excited about. And I dare say we farewell a few more immortals
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Hard to go out that way...such a bulltish ARC decision.
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Laughable ARC decision that is sackable as it simply decided the result.
I'd strip Nank of captaincy based off tonight. Shocking display vs no ruckman and failed to kill the ball at the end and cost us the game.
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1 question, how does that call get overturned on any of that footage. Seriously!
That's all true but Lynch's reaction wasn't that he thought he kicked it.
We had enough chances to kick the sealer in the last 5 minutes and blew every one.
Lynch 45 out almost directly in front misses.
Pickett sprays it for no score and we had no one 20 out to contest.
Miller plays on quickly 55 out and grubbers his kick rather than going back and settling.
Baker from 50 sprays it OOTF.
Lynch's "over the post".
I'm not even counting the fumbling and defensive errors.
Then we gift them a goal and the lead with a minute to go because we couldn't execute a simple schoolboy rushed behind.
Then we kick it around defence with 20 seconds left rather than going straight down the guts.
Schoolboy errors stuffed up our top 4 chances, almost cost us a finals spot and now cost us a final and our year.
:banghead
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Still, if you’re going to concede a 100pts plus, you’re not a genuine contender. Just making up the numbers.
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Honestly not that upset, our younger players really cost us tonight but they'll be better next year
Umpires as they have all year really cost us blatantly including the goal decision late.
If I was Hardwick I'd pay the $50k fine and unload on the afl and the umpiring
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The ARC dosen't overturn a decision that has never been overturned in the history of the game and we win. stuff U ARC idiot!
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I’m gutted we blew it, and we did blow it. Lynchy could have kicked that goal and we should have killed that ball on the line… But, we have found some ripping kids who will be great for us if they do the work.
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Still, if you’re going to concede a 100pts plus, you’re not a genuine contender. Just making up the numbers.
Agreed. I don’t see anything from our season that shouts we are a contender. Our best performance was against the cats and we lost ! We blew so many close games. I’m excited for next year and also what unfolds over this off season.
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Without Prestia we were cooked next week anyway. Frustrating game to watch as there were magical moments and comical moments. All in all and considering our key outs for chunks of the year, this final ladder position is about right. What might have been if Graham played, our only capable tagger for Neil…
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For me Dion going off was the difference . Simply cannot rely on him anymore .. his body cannot see a season out
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I have never seen a worse game from a captain
In my lifetime. Nankervis was disgraceful.
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Who stuffing knows what the rules are at any given moment anymore? I think they are whimsical concoctions of fairies that manifest as brain farts in the umpires minds. Our younger players were a bit shakey, Maurice is gonna be a super star
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Bolton was clamped tonight too. They shutdown our most influential player and meanwhile Neale destroyed us.
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The only definitive answer anyone can give on the ARCs decision is it went through above goal post height. The angles provided shows nothing other than that.
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A disaster not tagging Lachie Neale. Poor coaching.
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Aside from the dumb schoolboy stuff, all up across the game we lost it in the guts. We dominated hitouts 55-17 with McInerney going down early yet got murdered at the stoppages. It was more the ease in which the Brisbane mids were able to clear the ball than the numbers. Neale wasn't/couldn't be shut down. Prestia was a massive loss at HT but we have to better than rely on one or two mids to save us. Nank as captain had an ordinary game. So did Bolton (unusually fumbly). The Lions tagged Cotch heavily after Prestia went off. Dusty was obviously not match fit. Baker was poor overall although he did lift during the last qtr. As others have said a number of our cubs showed their inexperience at critical moments.
Just feels we wasted a good chance.
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Aside from the dumb schoolboy stuff, all up across the game we lost it in the guts. We dominated hitouts 55-17 with McInerney going down early yet got murdered at the stoppages. It was more the ease in which the Brisbane mids were able to clear the ball than the numbers. Neale wasn't/couldn't be shut down. Prestia was a massive loss at HT but we have to better than rely on one or two mids to save us. Nank as captain had an ordinary game. So did Bolton (unusually fumbly). The Lions tagged Cotch heavily after Prestia went off. Dusty was obviously not match fit. Baker was poor overall although he did lift during the last qtr. As others have said a number of our cubs showed their inexperience at critical moments.
Just feels we wasted a good chance.
Lynch missed 2 soda's in the last 5mins and cost us the game. Hope he feels good when he looks at his tax return next year cause if he can't stand up in big games he is not worth poo
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Aside from the dumb schoolboy stuff, all up across the game we lost it in the guts. We dominated hitouts 55-17 with McInerney going down early yet got murdered at the stoppages. It was more the ease in which the Brisbane mids were able to clear the ball than the numbers. Neale wasn't/couldn't be shut down. Prestia was a massive loss at HT but we have to better than rely on one or two mids to save us. Nank as captain had an ordinary game. So did Bolton (unusually fumbly). The Lions tagged Cotch heavily after Prestia went off. Dusty was obviously not match fit. Baker was poor overall although he did lift during the last qtr. As others have said a number of our cubs showed their inexperience at critical moments.
Just feels we wasted a good chance.
Lynch missed 2 soda's in the last 5mins and cost us the game. Hope he feels good when he looks at his tax return next year cause if he can't stand up in big games he is not worth poo
Don't mind so much the long miss but that short snap was so poor. That was the game there. He was what 5-10m out?
Not ARCs fault. Should have just nailed it. Didn't need to boot it so stuffing hard.
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Aside from the dumb schoolboy stuff, all up across the game we lost it in the guts. We dominated hitouts 55-17 with McInerney going down early yet got murdered at the stoppages. It was more the ease in which the Brisbane mids were able to clear the ball than the numbers. Neale wasn't/couldn't be shut down. Prestia was a massive loss at HT but we have to better than rely on one or two mids to save us. Nank as captain had an ordinary game. So did Bolton (unusually fumbly). The Lions tagged Cotch heavily after Prestia went off. Dusty was obviously not match fit. Baker was poor overall although he did lift during the last qtr. As others have said a number of our cubs showed their inexperience at critical moments.
Just feels we wasted a good chance.
Lynch missed 2 soda's in the last 5mins and cost us the game. Hope he feels good when he looks at his tax return next year cause if he can't stand up in big games he is not worth poo
You are a clown mate. Lynch is not the reason we lost, he's the main reason why we even made it to September FFS
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Agree on both points.
Lynch was a huge reason why we made finals.
Lynch goal kicking has been suspect. Missing both shots at end was costly. It's what will be the difference between him being remembered like Jack who is absolutely clutch when he needs to kick a big goal. Jacks 2 goals tonight we're incredible.
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If we broke even in the middle we win I think
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We have lost our finals mojo.
Reality, we don’t play the Richmond way and we all know the Richmond way wins finals.
Shoot outs like tonight are very entertaining to watch and a throw back to the 90’s but they don’t win finals footy.
Brisbane are in the same boat they aren’t going far either.
Love Nank but it was the worse game I’ve seen him play ever.
How he dominated possession but consistently turned it over straight to the opposition or continued to give Castagna like hand passes to teammates over and over again. :banghead
Our defending was sub standard and bloody awful. How they didn’t kill the ball or how no one was goal side on the goal line was junior footy stuff. Unbelievable. :banghead
We need ball winners in the guts hopefully we can find a couple this off season. We need to get fitter for tackling and pressure finals footy.
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Gutted. So close :(
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Gutted. So close :(
Yep. Very disappointing. Now we have 6 months of Claw telling us how crap we are, How we haven't drafted the right players, got the right coaches and have no hope. I see hope in quite a few of our young guys and have to trust the coaching group that has got us to more finals than any other in our history. Roll on March 2023.
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I see a lot of pain in our list if you relying on an ageing cotch and the likes of Ross.
At the end of the day you are not going to win games of footy especially elimination finals with 45 tackles.
Rubbish and that is bruise free footy.
Teague has got us playing that offensive poo that we used to lose elimination finals back in the day. Ruining us like he ruined the blues when he was coach
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Way to many passengers today and made critical errors.
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We blew it
Simple as that.
May sound harsh but it is a wasted season
Still bloody angry
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We blew it
Simple as that.
May sound harsh but it is a wasted season
Still bloody angry
Understand the emotion, but this is far from a wasted season. We've infused a good bunch of young players, they gained valuable finals experience and with our retirements, we have the opportunity to add some talent in the trade and draft.
I can't wait to see what Sonsie, MRJ, Ross, Gibcus, Bolton, Balta et al can develop into next season.
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Complete and utter waste of a season. Why?
Because we failed at getting back to what made us great and thought kicking goals is the panacea to winning in September.
We blew it this year and it started in the pre-season with this stupid offensive game plan that doesn’t pressure the ball carrier on any consistent level.
Crap year and a choke to finish off.
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17 lead changes in the #AFLLionsTigers game
The most lead changes in #AFLFinals in the last 20 years before tonight was 12.
https://twitter.com/sirswampthing/status/1565311362896887810
IIRC, Ch 7 also said it was our narrowest finals loss in our history :P.
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There’s a simple truth. Whoever won tonight will lose next week. So winning is fools gold. We are nowhere near to the top 4 sides in the comp. Our clearance work was poor before Meatie went off so let’s not blame that.
I think there’s a lot to work with but that team and those 2 sides aren’t anywhere near threatening for the flag this year.
Get as angry as you like but it doesn’t change that truth.
Fix the midfield Tigers, the rest will follow.
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We blew it
Simple as that.
May sound harsh but it is a wasted season
Still bloody angry
Understand the emotion, but this is far from a wasted season. We've infused a good bunch of young players, they gained valuable finals experience and with our retirements, we have the opportunity to add some talent in the trade and draft.
I can't wait to see what Sonsie, MRJ, Ross, Gibcus, Bolton, Balta et al can develop into next season.
Our season ended the way we cost ourselves a top 4 finish
That's why to me it's a wasted season
We should have finished top 4 and playing a qualifying final but we blew that
Yes we've blooded some good kids but we had a chance to do something special and we failed to do it.
We were 16 points up in the 3rd and let them back in. The stupid panic play in the last 5 minutes cost us.
So to me it is a wasted season
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Despite the loss and the schoolboy mistakes, It was a bloody entertaining game.
Not how you win premierships though.
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Stats:
Disposals: 321 - 337 ..... ( contested: 143 - 150 ; uncontested: 163 - 181 )
Efficiency%: 66 - 68
Kicks: 217 - 211
Handballs: 104 - 126
Turnovers: 68 - 73
Marks: 88 - 64 ..... ( contested: 15 - 5 )
Tackles: 46 - 56
Clearances: 41 - 47 ..... ( centre: 19 - 12 ; stoppages 22 - 35 )
Inside 50s: 63 - 59
In50 eff.%: 43 - 49
In50 marks: 17 - 8
In50 tackles: 7 - 9
Hitouts: 55 - 18 ..... ( Nankervis 41, Miller 14 ; McStay 10, Daniher 3, McInerney 2, Hipwood 1 )
Bounces: 6 - 0
One %ers: 57 - 52
Frees: 18 - 22
Individual possies:
Nankervis 26
Pickett 23
Ross 23
Vlastuin 21
Short 20
D.Rioli 17
Sonsie 17
Baker 16
Martin 15
Cotchin 14
Lynch 14
McIntosh 14
Broad 13
Prestia 12 .... ( injured [hammy] - subbed out just before half-time )
M.Rioli 12
Balta 10
Bolton 10
Gibcus 8
Miller 8
Riewoldt 8
Cumberland 7
Edwards 6 .... ( subbed on just before half-time )
Tarrant 6
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4740#player-stats
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There’s a simple truth. Whoever won tonight will lose next week. So winning is fools gold. We are nowhere near to the top 4 sides in the comp. Our clearance work was poor before Meatie went off so let’s not blame that.
I think there’s a lot to work with but that team and those 2 sides aren’t anywhere near threatening for the flag this year.
Get as angry as you like but it doesn’t change that truth.
Fix the midfield Tigers, the rest will follow.
I agree with you. We need to regenerate and fix the midfield. We are way too dependent on Dion. Our rise in form was directly related to his return to the side. He is an absolute champion but he needs support. We need to have depth in that area. I also think we paid the price for losing games that we should have won during the season. It is extraordinarily difficult to a win a premiership when you are not in the top four.
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We are still playing chaos footy, just that it is chaos in our backline.
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Fox Footy post-game said Brisbane scored 7.2-44 from stoppages and 5 goals from centre clearances. 4 goals 1 behind resulted from Neale's clearances :help.
King said don't get beaten by what you know. Hardwick mentioned pre-game that we are more focused on the post-clearance and winning the ball back. King said we took a chance and we rolled "snake eyes". Montagna said Richmond's brains trust should have put more time into Neale. At least restrict him to "normal numbers" and not 39 disposals and 15 clearances (equal second most ever in a final).
Montagna and King also agreed with many on here that the embarrassing stuff up in the defensive goalsquare that gifted Brisbane's last goal summed up Richmond's year. Defensive frailties had let Richmond down all year. They cost us a top 4 spot and now a final which sees us out.
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FaCT Of tHE MAtTeR
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Complete and utter waste of a season. Why?
Because we failed at getting back to what made us great and thought kicking goals is the panacea to winning in September.
We blew it this year and it started in the pre-season with this stupid offensive game plan that doesn’t pressure the ball carrier on any consistent level.
Crap year and a choke to finish off.
:thumbsup
If it’s possible I’d enjoy having both elite offence but still have elite pressure.
If I had a choice of one I’d always choose pressure because that’s what wins finals.
I think the Cats are the team to win it.
They have added better ball movement and pressure into their game style.
Their premiership to lose this year.
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As I sit here at the airport waiting to get home
There's a lot of people talking about the game
Well actually they're only talking about the review, not the actual game.
There in lies the problem, people should be talking about the game not a ridiculous decision. I had a great view of the shot we were sitting right in line with the centre of the goals (near the Richmond race). Yes it was close but it was a goal. BUT... it should never have been that close :banghead
But the worst play of the night was their final goal and comedy capers on the Lions goal line. That was truly pathetic and embarrassing. That ball should have thumped through for a behind not tapped to the ground.
I read a few comments blasting Teague as forwards coach. However, IMHO the biggest blast should be directed at the backline coach. We've leaked gaols all season at the most crucial of times. That's what coat us top 4 and after last night our season.
And finally I have not changed my view, it was a wasted season
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As I sit here at the airport waiting to get home
There's a lot of people talking about the game
Well actually they're only talking about the review, not the actual game.
There in lies the problem, people should be talking about the game not a ridiculous decision. I had a great view of the shot we were sitting right in line with the centre of the goals (near the Richmond race). Yes it was close but it was a goal. BUT... it should never have been that close :banghead
But the worst play of the night was their final goal and comedy capers on the Lions goal line. That was truly pathetic and embarrassing. That ball should have thumped through for a behind not tapped to the ground.
I read a few comments blasting Teague as forwards coach. However, IMHO the biggest blast should be directed at the backline coach. We've leaked gaols all season at the most crucial of times. That's what coat us top 4 and after last night our season.
And finally I have not changed my view, it was a wasted season
Get Truck Rutten to fix our backline will benefit us bigtime.
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AFL corruption.
Even if Lynch thought it wasn't a goal, no evidence was clear enough to overturn. In fact, photos show it was a goal.
AFL corruption and Umpire 23, kept Brisbane in the match.
Richmond killed Richmond in 2022.
That is the summary.
Our hunger for 2023 needs to be Us v Them.
Time for Richmond to kill the AFL in 2023.
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Umpire 23 was a disgrace
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Kane Cornes wonders if Richmond coach Damien Hardwick is regretting his decision not to tag the former Brownlow Medallist.
“I’ve got a firm view, because I’ve been in this situation, that it’s really hard to tag someone when they’re on fire. When they have their tail up and momentum and they’re into the groove of the game, it’s really difficult to send someone to Neale at half-time when he’s had 21 and nine clearances already,” Cornes said.
“I think that call had to be made pre-game and Richmond were never going to tag him pre-game because that’s not what they do.
“I don’t agree that that’s the right decision because if you look at Lachie Neale’s performances when someone has gone to him and the effect on Brisbane – they don’t win unless he’s dominant, particularly with Jarryd Lyons not there.
“In Round 23, Melbourne put a lot of time into him, and the same thing last time they played Melbourne. St Kilda’s Marcus Windhager tagged him, the Lions won that game, but just.
“There was a game against the Bombers where he had low 20s and they lost. Take Neale out and Brisbane don’t win.
“At what point do you go ‘it’s not our preferred method, but I was surprised by the lack of attention they gave him’.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/09/01/i-havent-seen-that-before-the-aspect-of-dominant-neale-performance-that/
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The lack of attention on Lachie Neale was a bigger disgrace that the umpiring. Pickett on him played wide.
He must have been beside himself when he saw our lack of attention. Bolton gets clamped down and we are 0 from 2 in the coaches box.
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The lack of attention on Lachie Neale was a bigger disgrace that the umpiring. Pickett on him played wide.
He must have been beside himself when he saw our lack of attention. Bolton gets clamped down and we are 0 from 2 in the coaches box.
Yep poor coaching and an incredibly arrogant decision
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All this talk about the ARC is taking away attention from our cluster flying firetruck brainfade of brainfades in the Brisbane goalsquare with only a minute to go :banghead. Seriously, you would struggle to see such Keystone Cops cluelessness from 8 year olds at Auskick level :facepalm. The Club can't blame youth and inexperience in the side last night either as the culprits were all senior premiership players. That level of stupidity has cost us all season and now another schoolboy brainfade has cost us our season :banghead.
It sits with our leaders and our coaches that we were so amateurish at the fundamentals this year. No point complaining about it in a post-game presser either Dimma. I commented earlier this year in the training thread during preseason that our training standards had dropped and we didn't pull up basic skill errors. Then add the drop in our fitness and especially conditioning which saw so many soft tissue injuries including a number of repeated ones :help. It's all now come home to roost. 2022 was there for the taking and we blew it! The Club and especially the footy department needs a right royal kick up the backside.
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All this talk about the ARC is taking away attention from our cluster flying firetruck brainfade of brainfades in the Brisbane goalsquare with only a minute to go :banghead. Seriously, you would struggle to see such Keystone Cops cluelessness from 8 year olds at Auskick level :facepalm. The Club can't blame youth and inexperience in the side last night either as the culprits were all senior premiership players. That level of stupidity has cost us all season and now another schoolboy brainfade has cost us our season :banghead.
It sits with our leaders and our coaches that we were so amateurish at the fundamentals this year. No point complaining about it in a post-game presser either Dimma. I commented earlier this year in the training thread during preseason that our training standards had dropped and we didn't pull up basic skill errors. Then add the drop in our fitness and especially conditioning which saw so many soft tissue injuries including a number of repeated ones :help. It's all now come home to roost. 2022 was there for the taking and we blew it! The Club and especially the footy department needs a right royal kick up the backside.
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Spot on
Close to post of the year
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Agree MT.
There’s an old saying that goes “Lose by a 100 and it’s the list, lose by 10 and it’s the coach”
Those training standards and errors have cost us a flag and Dimma should be taking responsibility
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Very disappointing reading about the drop in standards , though not a surprise..
Always got the impression that the likes of Mcrae and Leppa were a big driver of standards.culture etc?
Football dept really needs some quality brought in..
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The mess at the end of Brisbane was a bit similar to the mess at the end vs Geelong. Couldn't kill a basic contested pack mark with a minute left. School boy stuff.
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Agree MT.
And there's a disgusting photo clearly showing Daniher kick that goal with FIVE tigers nearby and none of them able to spoil effectively.
Nank and Balta were there, two blokes who played damned poor last night. They need to lift for 2023 big time.
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Gutted. So close :(
Yep. Very disappointing. Now we have 6 months of Claw telling us how crap we are, How we haven't drafted the right players, got the right coaches and have no hope. I see hope in quite a few of our young guys and have to trust the coaching group that has got us to more finals than any other in our history. Roll on March 2023.
I don't think i call us crap. I just point out and comment on things i think we can be better at.
I have stated i thought we would finish somewhere between lower part of the 8 and 12th. I gave what i thought were good and obvious reasons.
Do i think we are lacking certain types of players and do i think we lack depth in areas you bet ya.
Do i think a lot of our players who are talked up ad nauseum a tad over rated then yes its true.
Do i see hope in some of our young players of course. Have i had faith in the coaches to actually play em then no i believe most have only got games thru circumstance.
It has been patently obvious that we lack for contested ball and clearance players for years. It has been as clear as the nose on your face for many years that we lack GENUINE KEY FORWARDS in planning a succession. Have stated we lack for enough medium sized players on the list
Just my opinion but we have eked out every drop of blood we could from a core group who each year are getting older and cannot do what they once did.
Im not saying anything different to what a lot of posters are saying im just more blunt about it.
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Lots of games lost by small margins and for me the main reason is skills too many with poor skills or failing that footy smarts.
It was well and good when we had a system that was far superior to the opposition that allowed for us to make mistakes and get away with them.
Rule changes and aging personel now means the system is no longer full proof and the short comings of players are now becoming magnified.
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Agree MT.
And there's a disgusting photo clearly showing Daniher kick that goal with FIVE tigers nearby and none of them able to spoil effectively.
Nank and Balta were there, two blokes who played damned poor last night. They need to lift for 2023 big time.
Here's the vision of it: https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1565688672229347328
Adam Cooney last night was surprisingly being sensible. He listed 5 examples of why we stuffed up our season.
1. Not manning up Tom Stewart which allowed him to mark our quick kick forward to 20m out with 30 secs to go. A Tiger at that spot instead playing in front could've marked it and then kicked the winner.
2. Castagna non-goal. Not only George's fault but Cumberland as well as he should have shepherded the Suns player that was coming across to smother the kick.
3. Aarts playing on from the mark.
4. Cumberland playing on from the mark despite what happened with Aarts the week before.
5. The failure to thump the ball into row z for a rushed behind with a minute to go on Thursday night.
He could've added more too :facepalm.
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All this talk about the ARC is taking away attention from our cluster flying firetruck brainfade of brainfades in the Brisbane goalsquare with only a minute to go :banghead. Seriously, you would struggle to see such Keystone Cops cluelessness from 8 year olds at Auskick level :facepalm. The Club can't blame youth and inexperience in the side last night either as the culprits were all senior premiership players. That level of stupidity has cost us all season and now another schoolboy brainfade has cost us our season :banghead.
It sits with our leaders and our coaches that we were so amateurish at the fundamentals this year. No point complaining about it in a post-game presser either Dimma. I commented earlier this year in the training thread during preseason that our training standards had dropped and we didn't pull up basic skill errors. Then add the drop in our fitness and especially conditioning which saw so many soft tissue injuries including a number of repeated ones :help. It's all now come home to roost. 2022 was there for the taking and we blew it! The Club and especially the footy department needs a right royal kick up the backside.
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Spot on
Close to post of the year
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Watching the swans last night with their list demographic and how hard they work off the ball reminded me of us in 2017.
Pure hunger and commitment to hunt the opposition with fierce tackling and pressure caused the Dees to suffocate.
That should be us. It’s the Richmond way.
Rob Innes doing a fine job up there as head of athletic performance.
It’s great he was able to find a job that paid considering how poor we are that we are unable to pay for decent people in our football department.
It’s great that Sydney can spend the money though :rollin
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Hahaha so true. Who replaced Inness?
This year we will look to bring in truck to replace Kingsley, whilst maintaining our soft cap pressures by not adding anymore. :lol
Worked for us pre 2017 so let’s keep it up 👍🏻
For a club that claims to be so bright, they are making as many stupid decisions off the field, as some of the players on it.
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Watching the swans last night with their list demographic and how hard they work off the ball reminded me of us in 2017.
Pure hunger and commitment to hunt the opposition with fierce tackling and pressure caused the Dees to suffocate.
That should be us. It’s the Richmond way.
Rob Innes doing a fine job up there as head of athletic performance.
It’s great he was able to find a job that paid considering how poor we are that we are unable to pay for decent people in our football department.
It’s great that Sydney can spend the money though :rollin
I seriously don't know why I bother replying to your constant trolling posts about the Clubs soft cap spend
But are you seriously suggesting a bloke is going to turn down a job where he is becomes the head honcho at another Club to remain at a Club as 2IC if we offer him more money?
Inness didn't leave because of the soft cap. He left because he got the top job at the Swans
But I appreciate that doesn't suit yours or Frankie's argument. I get you are both desperate to over spend on the cap and pay the tax because that appears to be the badge you need to quality as a big Club
And BTW I believe Inness was replaced
And as for more coaches on board next year.... as Chutney (who I rarely mention these days but still gives great info) said "watch this space"
But whatever
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There’s something fishy about his whole soft cap bullcrap.
The reason is that things don’t add up and before you start rolling your eyes just ask yourself one question.
If it doesn’t make sense shouldn’t it be properly explained?
Maybe just look again at our AFLW program and when your shaking your head in absolute bewilderment at how the Saints, bulldogs and poor desperate Kangeroos can have vfl teams as well as competitive AFLW teams and (in your own words) we can’t “SPEND” because of soft cap space :rollin
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I get your point WP.
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'Arrogant' Tigers punished
Cornes said the Tigers were arrogant by not tagging Neale and for playing a not fully fit Dusty.
Also said McInerney going down and McStay going into the ruck left us too tall down back.
From 14:15 min mark: https://www.afl.com.au/video/835978/finals-thrillers-pie-s-strange-call-arrogant-tigers-punished
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LOL - At least we have something to be arrogant about. Unlike the poo club that is Port
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'Arrogant' Tigers punished
Cornes said the Tigers were arrogant by not tagging Neale and for playing a not fully fit Dusty.
Also said McInerney going down and McStay going into the ruck left us too tall down back.
From 14:15 min mark: https://www.afl.com.au/video/835978/finals-thrillers-pie-s-strange-call-arrogant-tigers-punished
‘ARROGANT’ TIGERS’ ‘COSTLY’ MISTAKE
Dual All-Australian Kane Cornes has lamented Richmond’s “arrogant” and “costly” decision not to put more attention into Lions star Lachie Neale in Thursday night’s elimination final.
Neale was best-on-ground in the Gabba clash in a colossal performance, racking up 39 disposals, 21 contested possessions, a career-best 15 clearances — the second-most ever in a final – and nine score involvements in 95 per cent time on ground.
The 2020 Brownlow medallist’s masterclass helped will his side to a big win over the Tigers and in the process end their season.
Speaking on AFL Media’s The Round So Far, Cornes believes Richmond coach Damien Hardwick would be regretting his decision to not tag Neale after clubs have had success in shutting him down in recent weeks.
“I want you to notice how little body contact there is around the game’s best clearance player at these stoppages,” Cornes said while highlighting vision of Neale’s dominance.
“It’s an arrogant performance from a Richmond midfield who backs their own structure in, and didn’t realise or want to know that if you nullify Lachie Neale, you pretty much win the game — that’s been the evidence of this year.
“They needed to study the tape of St Kilda’s (Marcus) Windhager, who kept him to 16 disposals, (James) Harmes and (Angus) Brayshaw (tagging him) the week before (against Melbourne) — he got a lot of the footy but not any sort of damage like he’s doing here.
“Phenomenal individual performance, but how you can have 44 list spots and not have one dedicated to a tagger continues to blow my mind. Essentially that cost Richmond as much as a goal review cost them.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-week-one-of-finals-highlights-analysis-talking-points-best-ever-weekend-reactions-tim-taranto-richmond-tigers-deal-craig-mcrae-umpiring-lachie-neale-not-tagged/news-story/7497bd60fbaf2885d87178bb94caec3c
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Have to agree through we let Neal run the show and control the game that was poor coaching performance.
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Have to agree through we let Neal run the show and control the game that was poor coaching performance.
I kind of agree, but let's face it, if the ARC says Umpire's Call, or Nank thumps a ball thru for a point, we likely win and everyone would be saying how great Dimma was for sticking to the Richmond plan, and how Brisbane can't even win when Neale gets 40. There's a fair bit of rubbish analysis with 20-20 hindsight, and Cornes is an absolute expert at that.
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arrogance is a person that hates your club pretending to offer sagely advice when the club is piped at the post, a stupid person he is and if you believe his vitriol you will do your head in
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Coaches votes: (Hardwick & Fagan)
Brisbane v Richmond
10 - Lachie Neale (BL)
7 - Hugh McCluggage (BL)
4 - Zac Bailey (BL)
3 - Brandon Starcevich (BL)
2 - Nick Vlastuin (RICH)
2 - Daniel McStay (BL)
1 - Toby Nankervis (RICH)
1 - Tom J Lynch (RICH)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/837031/gary-ayres-award-three-perfect-10s-cats-star-s-shock-result
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Now 0/4 in elimination finals in my lifetime :help
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Now 0/4 in elimination finals in my lifetime :help
So it's all your fault, TK :laugh:.
2-4 for me in my lifetime although the two wins I was too young to remember :P.
1975 vs Collingwood 11.11-77 to 10.13-73
KB's goal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0bQub-yE7Y
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1975/041419750906.html
1977 vs South Melb. 13.10-88 to 7.12-54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU-btDamP_w
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1977/141619770903.html
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Dimma on Richmond's Thursday night loss to the Lions.
Watch Here: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1566729671265292288
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Neale being sat on and having very little influence so far.
One of the the few things I don’t like about Dimma’s coaching - his refusal to tag dominant players.
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Agree Willy. It no longer works and he’s not caught up yet.
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We're better than both these sides. Should still be going this season
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Yep pmac. As much as it's hilarious seeing the Dees go out in straight sets, there's going to be a number of Tiger players kicking themselves even more tonight for screwing up last week. Melbourne were gettable as tonight showed and this year was there for the taking :P.
The game tonight also showed why we want to add Taranto and Hopper. You need multiple ballwinning mids with the new rules. We were too reliant on Prestia to be the extractor just as Melbourne were too reliant on Oliver (with Petracca hampered by that leg/calf). Whereas Brisbane had multiple ballwinners (Neale, Berry, Bailey, McCluggage) who eventually got on top as a group in the second half. Neale got off the chain after being held in the first half and had another 10 clearances.
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Just watched the last play again :help
Balta and Nankervis are 100% responsible for not killing the ball. :pullhair
Both of them limpwristed it with the softest tap right into the arms of the only forward within 5 metres. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Tarrant looked to have excellent body contact on Daniher except for one major schoolboy error he wasn’t goal side of a left footer :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair
We have some really dumb footy players
This was worse than the vs Gold Coast worst 90 seconds of footy.
Worse than the vs Collingwood worst 60 seconds of footy.
Worse than the vs GWS worst 30 seconds of footy.
worse than the vs Fremantle worst 20 seconds of footy.
:banghead
P.S. all this wouldn’t have mattered if Lynch just kicked the goal with a normal drop punt considering he was 5 metres out :banghead :banghead
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Tarrant - 194 games played
Lynch - 212 games played
Nankervis - 121 games played
Balta - 63 games played
Considering who were the players that fluffed it on the night and their experience makes it even worse
I wonder if they can sleep at night knowing it was their own fault. I know Balta probably hasn’t even thought about considering his interview after the Fremantle draw.
If I make an error or even think I’ve made an error in my job it effects my sleep. I find it very difficult to sleep knowing my error caused the problem. Fortunately, the more experienced I am the more I don’t make the basic schoolboy errors of my early days it just doesn’t happen as I’m conditioned not to do them it’s part of my psyche.
It’s a wonder how so many experienced players can let this happen at the most crucial point in the game. Just kill the ball should have been the only intention.
It’s mindboggling.
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Tarrant - 194 games played
Lynch - 212 games played
Nankervis - 121 games played
Balta - 63 games played
Considering who were the players that fluffed it on the night and their experience makes it even worse
I wonder if they can sleep at night knowing it was their own fault. I know Balta probably hasn’t even thought about considering his interview after the Fremantle draw.
If I make an error or even think I’ve made an error in my job it effects my sleep. I find it very difficult to sleep knowing my error caused the problem. Fortunately, the more experienced I am the more I don’t make the basic schoolboy errors of my early days it just doesn’t happen as I’m conditioned not to do them it’s part of my psyche.
It’s a wonder how so many experienced players can let this happen at the most crucial point in the game. Just kill the ball should have been the only intention.
It’s mindboggling.
You forgot Riewoldt. He just got in the way and made things worse
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That's what irked me this season our seasoned players we're talking 3 time premiership players making silly mistakes after each other.
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Barrett stating the obvious in his 'Sliding Doors' column today:
IF ...
many Tigers were seen curled-up in a corner last week after the drama with the ARC in a loss to Brisbane in an elimination final...
THEN ...
those same people probably remained in that same state after the Lions got hold of the Demons in a semi-final. It wouldn't be a stretch to argue strongly that Richmond should be playing Geelong in Friday night's preliminary final at the MCG.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/842808/if-josh-dunkley-wanted-out-of-the-bulldogs-two-years-ago-then