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Title: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
Monaghan moves on
By Nathan Schmook
Exclusive to richmondfc.com.au
4:21pm AEST Tuesday, September 17, 2013

Ross Monaghan has become the latest AFL football operations manager to move on after Richmond announced a restructure of its football department.

Just days after St Kilda made the position held by Greg Hutchison redundant, the Tigers announced Monaghan would be leaving the club because of changes within the football department.

Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-09-17/monaghan-moves-on


Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2013, 04:39:25 PM
Was wondering how long it would take for this happen  ;D

Monaghan was a CC appointment so it's no surprise IMV

Cya  ;D
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Smokey on September 17, 2013, 05:14:45 PM
Do I detect a note of "glad to see your back" WP?
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: JVT on September 17, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
Do I detect a note of "glad to see your back" WP?
Certainly reads that way  :rollin
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: gerkin greg on September 17, 2013, 05:41:19 PM
Fallout from the Dustin Martin debacle begins

More heads to roll
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2013, 05:58:58 PM
Do I detect a note of "glad to see your back" WP?

Yes you do.

Not a fan  :rollin
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Gigantor on September 17, 2013, 06:00:43 PM
WP what were/are your reservations regarding this gentleman?.
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2013, 06:05:56 PM
WP what were/are your reservations regarding this gentleman?.

Arrogant "so 'n' so" who didnt treat certain folks with much respect
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Gigantor on September 17, 2013, 06:13:15 PM
Could we do worse than enticing matty knights across for this position?
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2013, 06:16:19 PM
Could we do worse than enticing matty knights across for this position?

No, Matty Knights wants to be involved in coaching, he wouldn't be interested

This role was more admin with a small role on match day. Get the feeling the role has been made redundant and will be covered by others
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Coach on September 17, 2013, 06:22:15 PM
Great news. Absolute flog.
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2013, 06:26:40 PM
Great news. Absolute flog.

 :bow :bow

Correct!
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 17, 2013, 06:27:37 PM
Another great move by Benny!
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2013, 06:34:11 PM
Another great move by Benny!

Absolutely nothing to do with Benny

This decision was made by the head of Footy: Dan Richardson

Dan Richardson is certainly making his mark on the footy dept now  ;D
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: bojangles17 on September 17, 2013, 06:44:07 PM
He certainly is Ollie, and if he winds up with dm and conca departing ill be demanding he be SACKED :shh
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Gigantor on September 17, 2013, 06:47:57 PM
HMMM Bo ..you reckon he might have learned his trade from the Robert Mugabe school of diplomacy and negotiation?
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: bojangles17 on September 17, 2013, 06:51:45 PM
Well the juries out G, ill Tellya one thing, CC would have done the job, he would have played JFK on a break during the Cuban missile crisis would CC, mr underrated that's for sure :shh
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Gigantor on September 17, 2013, 07:22:12 PM
To be honest The thought crossed my mind that since CC left our contract negotiations have all gone off the rails at some point
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 17, 2013, 07:26:10 PM
To be honest The thought crossed my mind that since CC left our contract negotiations have all gone off the rails at some point

Yeah, there finally been paid what there worth and not inflated overs!
Ask anyone to take a pay cut and there going to be peed off but it's certainly sorting out those who want to be here and those who are just in it for the cash :cheers
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: bojangles17 on September 17, 2013, 07:33:08 PM
I'm yet to be convinced of this intractable strategy that is looking more likely that we will have a fair amount of egg on the mush. All along my thoughts were cut conca and sign Martin....YES he is worth ~550.... What makes me say that , coz he s no more than 10% any lesser player than jr or cotch or lids and now we hear the likes of Mitch Clark on 600k, daisy on one leg at 27 with 700 touted and stuffen cramers and his 30g a years on 475 ...dm is certainly worth more than 480. If that's how DR sees it then no wonder we are facing the biggest crisis since the end of the Cold War
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: tony_montana on September 17, 2013, 07:41:33 PM
I see your point bj, but all those players have one thing in common, they are free agents or playing at sides like we used to be. Sam Mitchell is on 350k, Sewell prob less. Roughy wouldn't be on huge coin. Im sure players like Enright, Kelly etc at Geelong have been paid unders in order to  build the side they have. Freo have close to a mill in the kitty they can lash out, they have a stabkle of star players but obviously they have a rate structure that pays them less. Lids is on about 5-550. If oxx is correct Martin was offered 530k not 480. 530 is very reasonable if Cotch is on 600k.
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: gerkin greg on September 17, 2013, 07:44:24 PM
if the Hawks can accommodate

Hodge, Franklin, Burgoyne, Rioli, Mitchell, Sewell, Lewis, Roughead, Lake

I think we can squeeze in Reece ****ing Conca and Dustin Martin

might have to stop paying Luke McGuane and Troy Chaplin massive overs... Craig  :shh
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Rampstar on September 17, 2013, 07:46:37 PM
I'm yet to be convinced of this intractable strategy that is looking more likely that we will have a fair amount of egg on the mush. All along my thoughts were cut conca and sign Martin....YES he is worth ~550.... What makes me say that , coz he s no more than 10% any lesser player than jr or cotch or lids and now we hear the likes of Mitch Clark on 600k, daisy on one leg at 27 with 700 touted and stuffen cramers and his 30g a years on 475 ...dm is certainly worth more than 480. If that's how DR sees it then no wonder we are facing the biggest crisis since the end of the Cold War

stop being a dill there is no crisis  :gotigers
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: gerkin greg on September 17, 2013, 07:48:00 PM
I see your point bj, but all those players have one thing in common, they are free agents or playing at sides like we used to be. Sam Mitchell is on 350k, Sewell prob less. Roughy wouldn't be on huge coin. Im sure players like Enright, Kelly etc at Geelong have been paid unders in order to  build the side they have. Freo have close to a mill in the kitty they can lash out, they have a stabkle of star players but obviously they have a rate structure that pays them less. Lids is on about 5-550. If oxx is correct Martin was offered 530k not 480. 530 is very reasonable if Cotch is on 600k.

Mitchell used to be on 600 so must have front loaded a bit, Roughy was on half a mill before his voice broke
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Smokey on September 17, 2013, 07:53:49 PM
WP what were/are your reservations regarding this gentleman?.

Arrogant "so 'n' so" who didnt treat certain folks with much respect

That's sounds sooooo much like Greg Hutchinson - had the unfortunate displeasure of meeting him one day when he was still with us.
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: 🏅Dooks on September 17, 2013, 08:01:17 PM
I'm yet to be convinced of this intractable strategy that is looking more likely that we will have a fair amount of egg on the mush. All along my thoughts were cut conca and sign Martin....YES he is worth ~550.... What makes me say that , coz he s no more than 10% any lesser player than jr or cotch or lids and now we hear the likes of Mitch Clark on 600k, daisy on one leg at 27 with 700 touted and stuffen cramers and his 30g a years on 475 ...dm is certainly worth more than 480. If that's how DR sees it then no wonder we are facing the biggest crisis since the end of the Cold War

stop being a dill there is no crisis  :gotigers

Did someone say crisis?  :gobdrop
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2013, 08:12:43 PM
I see your point bj, but all those players have one thing in common, they are free agents or playing at sides like we used to be. Sam Mitchell is on 350k, Sewell prob less. Roughy wouldn't be on huge coin. Im sure players like Enright, Kelly etc at Geelong have been paid unders in order to  build the side they have. Freo have close to a mill in the kitty they can lash out, they have a stabkle of star players but obviously they have a rate structure that pays them less. Lids is on about 5-550. If oxx is correct Martin was offered 530k not 480. 530 is very reasonable if Cotch is on 600k.

Dont think Cotchin is on $600k, would be more  ;D

That's sounds sooooo much like Greg Hutchinson - had the unfortunate displeasure of meeting him one day when he was still with us.

Actually have met Hutchy a number of times at club functions. Always found him to be a super bloke and a true gentleman to all (especially the player's families). Certainly cannot say the same thing about Monaghan

true story about Hutchy, I was out at Casey watching Coburg a few years ago and Hutchy as part of his role at St Kilda he was Casey's Coach. Reserves were playing. I hadn't seen or spoken to Hutchy for over 12 months. Anyway he saw me watching the ressies and he came up to me said hello "Will" and we had a chat for about 5-10 minutes. I cannot say a bad word about Greg Hutchinson - always been terrific to me  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: bojangles17 on September 17, 2013, 08:22:53 PM
if the Hawks can accommodate

Hodge, Franklin, Burgoyne, Rioli, Mitchell, Sewell, Lewis, Roughead, Lake

I think we can squeeze in Reece ****ing Conca and Dustin Martin

might have to stop paying Luke McGuane and Troy Chaplin massive overs... Craig  :shh
Don't forget freo offering jack 1m , like how the stuff can they do that, sounds to me beyond top 10 players they are paid peanuts...wa homeboys, they know won't go east....I wouldn't think Luke mcguane is on much he was signed a 1 year deal..and chappy is worth his 300 odd a year, was a whisker off AA
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: 🏅Dooks on September 17, 2013, 08:33:52 PM
if the Hawks can accommodate

Hodge, Franklin, Burgoyne, Rioli, Mitchell, Sewell, Lewis, Roughead, Lake

I think we can squeeze in Reece ****ing Conca and Dustin Martin

might have to stop paying Luke McGuane and Troy Chaplin massive overs... Craig  :shh
Don't forget freo offering jack 1m , like how the stuff can they do that, sounds to me beyond top 10 players they are paid peanuts...wa homeboys, they know won't go east....I wouldn't think Luke mcguane is on much he was signed a 1 year deal..and chappy is worth his 300 odd a year, was a whisker off AA

Yep bottom 20 paid 20% unders
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 17, 2013, 08:42:51 PM
Well the juries out G, ill Tellya one thing, CC would have done the job, he would have played JFK on a break during the Cuban missile crisis would CC, mr underrated that's for sure :shh

No No No, He is the reason we are in this position with Martin, by paying overs in the first instance, way overs, Cameron had no idea on managing a salary cap. Thank god he was pushed, left.
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: 🏅Dooks on September 17, 2013, 08:52:11 PM
Well the juries out G, ill Tellya one thing, CC would have done the job, he would have played JFK on a break during the Cuban missile crisis would CC, mr underrated that's for sure :shh

No No No, He is the reason we are in this position with Martin, by paying overs in the first instance, way overs, Cameron had no idea on managing a salary cap. Thank god he was pushed, left.

Back, and to the left....although I doubt any bullet could have made him go further left
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: tony_montana on September 17, 2013, 08:54:41 PM
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpv9r4T0XO1qzw9lio1_400.png)
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: bojangles17 on September 17, 2013, 09:13:07 PM
Well the juries out G, ill Tellya one thing, CC would have done the job, he would have played JFK on a break during the Cuban missile crisis would CC, mr underrated that's for sure :shh

No No No, He is the reason we are in this position with Martin, by paying overs in the first instance, way overs, Cameron had no idea on managing a salary cap. Thank god he was pushed, left.

S what are you suggesting would have been the suitable response to a gws bid of 850 a year...200 :lol...CC was a football mastermind that left a decent pair of shoes to fill :shh
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: 🏅Dooks on September 17, 2013, 09:39:13 PM
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpv9r4T0XO1qzw9lio1_400.png)

 :lol
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: eliminator on September 18, 2013, 07:12:28 AM
Agree with comments that the jury is still out regarding Richardson
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: bojangles17 on September 18, 2013, 07:48:15 AM
Agree with comments that the jury is still out regarding Richardson
It's a one way strategy that the top clubs have NOT employed over the years, they have always just cut a player loose to retain their best...we ve tried to sign stuffen everyone....wtf  :banghead
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 18, 2013, 07:57:02 AM
e.g Mcguane, Lock up, Grigg
3 very replaceable footballers who are on more than a rookie wage who to be honest should never have been given a contract for 2013


Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: TFL on September 18, 2013, 08:57:47 AM
WP is on the money.

Ross is not a very personable guy.

Very arrogant and very happy to see the back of this guy.
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 18, 2013, 10:16:56 AM
WP is on the money.

Ross is not a very personable guy.

Very arrogant and very happy to see the back of this guy.

The way Ross spoke to certain staff & others was disgusting  :shh
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 18, 2013, 11:02:19 AM
Agree with comments that the jury is still out regarding Richardson
I'm going to back Richardson.
He knows exactly what many footballers in other clubs are on because of his job with Craig Kelly.  He knows what sides like Geelong are doing versus sides like Melbourne.
For too long at Richmond the tail has been wagging the dog.  We need to eradicate this to actually have sustained success.
It might mean that we take three steps back to take 10 steps forward, but if that is what it takes, we need to swallow this bitter pill.

I hope gone are the days where we pay a Gaspar $700K.   We need the team to watch the three musketeers and learn the motto "one for all and all for one (Richmond)".
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Rampstar on September 18, 2013, 11:05:16 AM
Im also backing Richardson for now but if he loses Martin for nothing then for me that would mean Richardsons first year at the club as head of football operations or whatever his role is would have been a failure.
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Penelope on September 18, 2013, 12:57:02 PM
ricahrdson only does the negotiations. if GWS make an offer and we outright reject it thus forcing martin into the PSD, it wont just be his head that should roll. Others will be in on that decision as well.
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 18, 2013, 01:12:20 PM
ricahrdson only does the negotiations. if GWS make an offer and we outright reject it thus forcing martin into the PSD, it wont just be his head that should roll. Others will be in on that decision as well.
Why would they make an offer if they can convince him to go in the PSD?

We certainly would do that if we were in their position.
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on September 18, 2013, 01:58:52 PM
Could we do worse than enticing matty knights across for this position?

This role was more admin with a small role on match day.
Sounds like the ideal job for Dusty.Maybe thats what he was hanging out for.
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Penelope on September 18, 2013, 03:20:20 PM
ricahrdson only does the negotiations. if GWS make an offer and we outright reject it thus forcing martin into the PSD, it wont just be his head that should roll. Others will be in on that decision as well.
Why would they make an offer if they can convince him to go in the PSD?

We certainly would do that if we were in their position.
no we wouldnt.
i've answered this a few times already, but tell me the last club that did that?
Title: Re: Footy Dept Restructure: Monaghan Goes
Post by: Coach on September 18, 2013, 03:38:15 PM
Well the juries out G, ill Tellya one thing, CC would have done the job, he would have played JFK on a break during the Cuban missile crisis would CC, mr underrated that's for sure :shh

No No No, He is the reason we are in this position with Martin, by paying overs in the first instance, way overs, Cameron had no idea on managing a salary cap. Thank god he was pushed, left.

CC was a football mastermind that left a decent pair of shoes to fill :shh

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol