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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: PuntRdRoar on October 07, 2005, 05:22:28 PM

Title: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: PuntRdRoar on October 07, 2005, 05:22:28 PM
As I think we all know, Brett Deledio comes out of contract at the end of next season (end 2006), with the sad state of affairs at Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon and to a lesser extent Hawthorn who have embarked on a massive youth campaign and the fact they they along with us (after our draw) will probably sit towards the bottom of the AFL table- we need and we must ensure that the Deledio situation doesnt get past this january or february.

This must be the absolute top assignment for Greg Miller and Terry Wallace. A 5 year deal  2007-2011) should be put to the young man or his management which equates to about $300,000 per year or $ 1.5 million over the 5. I think thats a fair deal for a young man at this time. Akermanis atBrisbane as a Brownlow Medallist and at his scintillating best was on $280,000.

That signature should then quickly be followed up with 3 year deals for Tambling, Meyer and 2 year deals for Pattison and Polo. This group of 5 must be central to the hopes of our club, they will form hopefully a core part of our next premiership side. Lets not blow it by being lazy.
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: Razorblade on October 07, 2005, 05:25:38 PM
Um.. no!
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 07, 2005, 05:28:19 PM
i think miller and wallace are aware of whats ahead and this kids are going no where believe me, the only one that worries me is bling, u just dont know if its true or not if he is unhappy at punt rd
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 07, 2005, 05:29:34 PM
2-3 yr contracts when the time is right is all that needed unless u can say sign up a good player for 5 yrs on minimal pay
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: PuntRdRoar on October 07, 2005, 05:33:43 PM
In the 4th of the 5th year believe me $300,000 will be cheap for Deledio. Razor- why are you against this, i believe this would bring certainty and stability- watch the ferals go nuts if Deledio hasnt been signed by early september next year. Thats the type of stuff RFC needs to avoid.
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: mightytiges on October 07, 2005, 07:01:45 PM
Just make sure he's signed up well before the end of next season. And as for length of his new contract it should be no more than 3 years. Sure we gave Gas and Simmonds 5 year deals :o but we didn't with Richo, Cogs, Tuck or Bowden who were re-signed with 3 year contracts. Browny was given 4 IIRC. 5 years is way too long IMHO.
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: Razorblade on October 07, 2005, 08:22:46 PM
In the 4th of the 5th year believe me $300,000 will be cheap for Deledio. Razor- why are you against this, i believe this would bring certainty and stability- watch the ferals go nuts if Deledio hasnt been signed by early september next year. Thats the type of stuff RFC needs to avoid.
Well i won't even mention how unrealistic your original post is, but personally i am not a fan of contract extensions.

IMO players should be payed taking into consideration their full season games and stats, and any injuries they might suffer.

While i wouldn't start letting off shotgun rounds if Lids got an extension, i'd be wary of giving then to any of the other kids, not to mention that most managers would only let their "gun" kids sign extensions which were very generous.

IMO Meyer is going home after next season anyway so it won't matter.

And what is the point of extending players which have shown nothing yet?

Sure Tambo showed a few glimpses, not nothing concrete.

Meyer, Patto and Polo done nothing.

Not saying they won't be good, but just going on facts.

It's not like 19-20yo kids go out with the intention of screwing the club over after their initial rookie contracts by wanting to "go home" or go to another club, they let them know in advance, if the club doesn't already have a suspicion already.

Lids, Patto and Polo are Vic kids, no reason to leave.

Unless Tambo pulls a Motlop, we'll be fine with him, if he does, i'd gladly take Chaplin + high picks off Port for him.

Meyere is your "go home" worry, and IMO that is exactly what he is going to do, so hopefully the club is prepared for that possibility.

For the record, Cooney got a 3 year extension and Ray 2 years at the end of last season from the Bulldogs (It was around the new year IIRC).
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: mightytiges on October 08, 2005, 05:05:23 AM
Meyer is your "go home" worry, and IMO that is exactly what he is going to do, so hopefully the club is prepared for that possibility.

Some people on the old tigerfury forum were saying the same thing about Cogs the day he was drafted because his face wasn't beaming when his name was read out.

Ottens, Fiora and Holland are all ex-South Aussies but even when they were traded away they remained in Victoria. The only RFC player to head back "home" that I can think of in recent times is Torney but he never made any noises to go back home before finding out we wanted to trade him as part of the deal to get Sugar. The go home factor is a rare event given how many kids get moved interstate in every draft.

Let's see how Meyer goes next year after a full pre-season under his belt. He obviously oozes talent with the footy but just needs to get into the gym.
 

Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: Moi on October 08, 2005, 09:47:04 AM
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Some people on the old tigerfury forum were saying the same thing about Cogs the day he was drafted because his face wasn't beaming when his name was read out.


Will you stop bringing that up  :rollin
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: Razorblade on October 08, 2005, 01:41:15 PM
MT - Its not simply because his from SA, apparently he is a very introverted person and keeps to himself a bit, which does sound like he might be a bit homesick!

I remember on draft day he looked like he wanted to jump off a bridge, appeared shattered he was going to Richmond.

I might end up being wrong, but i've got a feeling about this!
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: bluey_21 on October 08, 2005, 02:13:17 PM
Signing up Deledio would be one of the top priorities at Richmond next year
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: mightytiges on October 08, 2005, 06:53:43 PM
MT - Its not simply because his from SA, apparently he is a very introverted person and keeps to himself a bit, which does sound like he might be a bit homesick!

I remember on draft day he looked like he wanted to jump off a bridge, appeared shattered he was going to Richmond.

I might end up being wrong, but i've got a feeling about this!

Fair enough Razor.

Heading interstate to the reigning wooden spooner wouldn't be most people's first choice and reigning premier Port Adelaide had their pick just before ours so if he wasn't doing cartwheels I wouldn't blame him. However the on-field direction of both clubs a year later is no longer poles apart. It could have been worse Danny could ended up at Carlton ;D.

If he is an introverted person then more likely he wouldn't have showed that much emotion. I personally didn't think he looked shattered on draft day. The first year interstate would be tough for any 17-18 year old but now Danny knows what to expect. IIRC Cogs also found his first year a bit tough but eventually the chance to play senior footy and play a major role in the midfield turned things around pretty quickly. Hopefully the same will happen with Meyer next year. He's a class act with the footy albeit light-on physically. Nothing a proper preseason or two can't fix.

Will you stop bringing that up  :rollin

 :lol
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 09, 2005, 09:28:29 PM
the only one that worries me is bling, u just dont know if its true or not if he is unhappy at punt rd

Don't worry about Tambling X, he is very very happy at Tigerland, very happy living in Melbourne and is certainly not homesick :thumbsup
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: Razorblade on October 09, 2005, 09:30:09 PM
the only one that worries me is bling, u just dont know if its true or not if he is unhappy at punt rd

Don't worry about Tambling X, he is very very happy at Tigerland, very happy living in Melbourne and is certainly not homesick :thumbsup
So the issues with the girlfriend are all sorted out then im assuming?
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 09, 2005, 09:31:42 PM
So the issues with the girlfriend are all sorted out then im assuming?

Issues with the girlfriend? That's very funny
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: Razorblade on October 09, 2005, 09:40:50 PM
So the issues with the girlfriend are all sorted out then im assuming?

Issues with the girlfriend? That's very funny
How so?

I heard that the girlfriend (i forget her name) was very homesick, and that with her having a kid she wanted to move back to the NT.
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 09, 2005, 09:43:10 PM

I heard that the girlfriend (i forget her name) was very homesick, and that with her having a kid she wanted to move back to the NT.

Nothing could be further from the truth  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: Razorblade on October 09, 2005, 09:44:19 PM
Oh ok thats good to hear!
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: PuntRdRoar on October 10, 2005, 10:56:37 AM
was the kid a boy or a girl...we need to get lids and tambo to have about 6 boys each lol
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: Tiger Spirit on October 10, 2005, 01:30:19 PM
This must be the absolute top assignment for Greg Miller and Terry Wallace. A 5 year deal 2007-2011) should be put to the young man or his management which equates to about $300,000 per year or $ 1.5 million over the 5. I think thats a fair deal for a young man at this time. Akermanis atBrisbane as a Brownlow Medallist and at his scintillating best was on $280,000.

That signature should then quickly be followed up with 3 year deals for Tambling, Meyer and 2 year deals for Pattison and Polo. This group of 5 must be central to the hopes of our club, they will form hopefully a core part of our next premiership side. Lets not blow it by being lazy.

You’d like to think that RFC would be a bit more switched on than to let good young players slip through the net.  There shouldn’t be any need to sell ourselves up the river, if we build the right sort of environment for players to get the best out of themselves.  They should want to stay for all the right reasons and not just the money; otherwise we’ve learnt nothing from the past.  Till now, RFC have done the right thing by Brett and gone out of their way to help him, and others with their schooling, and he’s had as good a first season as anyone could dream up, so a lot would have to go haywire, between now and when he’s due to re-sign, for him to have thoughts of going elsewhere.   Sign him up before time, yes, but I don’t think 5 years is the way to go and in some ways that could be the lazy option for both sides to take.

For a number of reasons, I think it will more than likely be for 3 years.  Don’t know whether his management would go for a 5 year deal just yet.  Anything can happen in that amount of time.  They will more than likely figure that his potential has the ability to take him who knows where, so a 2 or 3 year deal would be the best option, as he could, in all probability be vying for a much better contract in a couple of years time.  You’d be more concerned if they opted for such a deal.

Not sure whether it’s good for clubs to go down that track with such a young player, either, in terms of motivation.  That doesn’t seem to be an issue now, and perhaps may never be, but you don’t want players getting into a comfort zone when they haven’t really deserved the right to that length of contract, in one sense.  It’s all way too much too soon, and anything can happen in that amount of time.
Title: Re: Deledio should be signed Now!
Post by: mightytiges on October 10, 2005, 06:32:27 PM
Top post TS.

They should want to stay for all the right reasons and not just the money otherwise we’ve learnt nothing from the past. 

You just have to think of Brisbane at their prime with their superstars preferring the environment of team success to earning the most money the could get their hands on. Voss and co. could have easily scored more $$$ by switching to a bottom club.