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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 24, 2015, 08:49:51 PM
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Welcome to Tigerland, Oleg.
:)
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Break Oleg!
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son of olympic pole vaulter Dmitry :thumbsup
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Son or nephew?
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Claw will actually be happy for once!
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A daring selection
Like it
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any info on Oleg?
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Oleg Markov
Player bio
Former club: North Adelaide
Age: 19
Height: 187cm
Weight: 75kg
Position: Forward
2015 Statistics
Games: 1
Goals: 1
Avg Kicks: 7
Avg Marks: 7
Avg Hballs: 14
Medium midfielder/forward with elite endurance and speed, making him a top-end athlete. Dangerous around goals, highlighted by his five goals against Vic Metro at the NAB AFL U18 Championships. Solid contributor in five matches at the championships, playing as a 19-year-old. Son of Dimitri Markov, former world champion pole vaulter.
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/OLEG-Markov-2015.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker
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Welcome, who ever the hell you are..
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any info on Oleg?
Claw rates him highly and wanted him with this pick....make of that what you will.....
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In before anyone else says he looks like Jordan McMahon
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As long as he doesn't play like him....
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VIDEOS:
Draft profile 2015 [8.22 mins]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFyNkMhs-fA
AFL website profile: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-09-16/draft-prospect-oleg-markov
Oleg's 5 goals vs Vic Metro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VsCEK1Pxsw
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last 2 draft pools seems we've picked up players with athletic capabilities. I like it.
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Be interesting to see how he performs in the eating competition between himself, Menadue and McBean.....
Not sure why we have gone for all the skinny kids again, we did that years ago and it didn't work..
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Makes McBean look obese.
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In before anyone else says he looks like Jordan McMahon
:lol
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Does any one else think, and I'm just putting this out there, that we may just have a Jordy McMahon lookalike on the cards?
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Claw will actually be happy for once!
You bet ya my only gripe is i wanted us to rookie him last year. Yeah hes a bit on the skinny side still, but this kid will get big enough. Not often you get an athletic freak who has good footy skills and a footy brain.
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Makes McBean look obese.
:bow :lol :thatsgold
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From the Richmond recruiters
richmondfc.com.au
24 November 2015
Oleg mixed his football in 2015 with the North Adelaide reserves and senior side, as well as representing South Australia in the under-18 National Championships. In the majority of his games, he has played as a marking, medium forward.
Oleg possesses explosive speed and a vertical leap that enables him to achieve split from opponents.
He has great repeat effort and speed, which was highlighted at this year’s AFL Combine, when he was ranked fifth overall of all players tested.
Against Vic Metro in the second round of this year’s National Championships, Oleg dominated from half-forward with 16 disposals and five goals.
Oleg was born in Belarus and he is the son of World Champion pole-vaulter Dimitri Markov.
Dimitri achieved the feat competing for his adopted country of Australia in 2001. The family already has a Richmond connection with Dimitri a former Australian Athletics teammate of the Tigers’ current High Performance Manager, Peter Burge (long/triple jump).
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-24/2015-national-draft-pick-50-oleg-markov
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Im sure he will take markov the year
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:clapping
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any relation to markov from this forum?
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Can play a bit this kid, a real fj smokey , when he sees something in a player, whoa , he ain't often wrong :clapping
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any relation to markov from this forum?
Nephew. :shh
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Be interesting to see how he performs in the eating competition between himself, Menadue and McBean.....
Not sure why we have gone for all the skinny kids again, we did that years ago and it didn't work..
I'm not against going for a skinny kid with potential at pick #50. I agree it backfired in the past but I think after realising a skinny kid like Nat Fyfe can become such a player he is, I think club's are factoring in mental fortitude as something which shouldn't be underestimated
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any relation to markov from this forum?
Nephew. :shh
tell him to buy jordan a hamburger
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Hope he has a very successful career at Richmond.
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OK Im gonna dowse this fire, if you look at his highlight reel its not that flash, a lot of goals from marks in space and 30m out. He's not tall enough for key forward.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-24/2015-national-draft-pick-50-oleg-markov
He doesn't look that mobile on the turn but he does adjust his kicks to a target a few times quite well which is good.
I only saw one burst of speed in the highlights reel too, at least he has some.
Didn't we take a medium sided forward a few years back at about this pick, I forget his name and he was gone after a few games and 2 years.
Here it is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_O'Hanlon
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brett_OHanlon.html
He was 189cm 87Kg not quite big enough or fast enough to make it and he was Pre Season Draft.
Juries still out but I think its a funny pick, maybe he will play the high half forward flank or some midfield to forward role.
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OK Im gonna dowse this fire, if you look at his highlight reel its not that flash, a lot of goals from marks in space and 30m out. He's not tall enough for key forward.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-24/2015-national-draft-pick-50-oleg-markov
He doesn't look that mobile on the turn but he does adjust his kicks to a target a few times quite well which is good.
I only saw one burst of speed in the highlights reel too, at least he has some.
Didn't we take a medium sided forward a few years back at about this pick, I forget his name and he was gone after a few games and 2 years.
Here it is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_O'Hanlon
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brett_OHanlon.html
He was 189cm 87Kg not quite big enough or fast enough to make it and he was Pre Season Draft.
Juries still out but I think its a funny pick, maybe he will play the high half forward flank or some midfield to forward role.
You obviously are comparing apples and oranges. Oleg is astonishingly quick and agile, something that O'Hanlon never was. Don't just go by the highlight reel. Believe me when I say he will be the most athletically gifted player at tiger land and that's saying something when you look at the team that we have right now. My main concerns about him are his weight and he is prone to injury. If he can put on a bit of beef and stay fit we really have a beauty here. Stay tuned.
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OK Im gonna dowse this fire, if you look at his highlight reel its not that flash, a lot of goals from marks in space and 30m out. He's not tall enough for key forward.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-11-24/2015-national-draft-pick-50-oleg-markov
He doesn't look that mobile on the turn but he does adjust his kicks to a target a few times quite well which is good.
I only saw one burst of speed in the highlights reel too, at least he has some.
Didn't we take a medium sided forward a few years back at about this pick, I forget his name and he was gone after a few games and 2 years.
Here it is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_O'Hanlon
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brett_OHanlon.html
He was 189cm 87Kg not quite big enough or fast enough to make it and he was Pre Season Draft.
Juries still out but I think its a funny pick, maybe he will play the high half forward flank or some midfield to forward role.
don't forget we Draft for the future as well as next season
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Don't know too much about this kid except:
1) Outstanding lineage
2) Outstanding physical attributes and testing results
His vision looks great. Smooth mover, quick, kicks well and seems to read it well. For a 50+ pick he is a no brainer. Suspect he will be Kam Macintosh-like over the next couple of years.
Having said that I hope we pick up Stephen Parson's kid in the Rookie draft only because I like the sentimental story.
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Just went back over the highlights of this kid and he reminds a lot of Jeremy Howe , has those steel trap hands that just clunk em from anywhere , a real smokey this kid :shh
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Just went back over the highlights of this kid and he reminds a lot of Jeremy Howe , has those steel trap hands that just clunk em from anywhere , a real smokey this kid :shh
Sounds informed and inspiring ::)
anyhoot, for those who missed it this morning, Emma Quayle was on SEN and said of many of the draft picks, Markov would be potentially amongst the most exciting and influential for a late pick. Apparently has a lot of speed and X factor in gener play.
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We've just recruited Nathan Gordon mk II if you ask me. May turn out better and become an okay forward but doubt he'll be a midfielder. Good luck to the kid though hope he makes it.
last 2 draft pools seems we've picked up players with athletic capabilities. I like it.
While threepeat Hawthorn have gone for natural footballers with limited (albeit still good) athletic attributes
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We've just recruited Nathan Gordon mk II if you ask me. May turn out better and become an okay forward but doubt he'll be a midfielder. Good luck to the kid though hope he makes it.
last 2 draft pools seems we've picked up players with athletic capabilities. I like it.
While threepeat Hawthorn have gone for natural footballers with limited (albeit still good) athletic attributes
Hawthorn already drafted athletes in Smith, Hill and Hartung so they didn't need too many more.
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We've just recruited Nathan Gordon mk II if you ask me. May turn out better and become an okay forward but doubt he'll be a midfielder. Good luck to the kid though hope he makes it.
Don't think he'll be quite that bad - he at least looks like he knows where to run, doesn't mind a bit of contact and can take a mark, so that's three more attributes he has than Flashless for a start....would've preferred Ben Crocker with this pick...but whatever....only time will tell....hopefully Mr. Claws is right....for once.... :santa
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We've just recruited Nathan Gordon mk II if you ask me. May turn out better and become an okay forward but doubt he'll be a midfielder. Good luck to the kid though hope he makes it.
last 2 draft pools seems we've picked up players with athletic capabilities. I like it.
While threepeat Hawthorn have gone for natural footballers with limited (albeit still good) athletic attributes
Hawthorn already drafted athletes in Smith, Hill and Hartung so they didn't need too many more.
Who funnily enough were still footballers apart from Hill
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We've just recruited Nathan Gordon mk II if you ask me. May turn out better and become an okay forward but doubt he'll be a midfielder. Good luck to the kid though hope he makes it.
last 2 draft pools seems we've picked up players with athletic capabilities. I like it.
While threepeat Hawthorn have gone for natural footballers with limited (albeit still good) athletic attributes
Hawthorn already drafted athletes in Smith, Hill and Hartung so they didn't need too many more.
Who funnily enough were still footballers apart from Hill
Disagree with Smith. Thought he was ordinary as a footballer on his first year or two. Has become a much better player since.
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We've just recruited Nathan Gordon mk II if you ask me. May turn out better and become an okay forward but doubt he'll be a midfielder. Good luck to the kid though hope he makes it.
last 2 draft pools seems we've picked up players with athletic capabilities. I like it.
While threepeat Hawthorn have gone for natural footballers with limited (albeit still good) athletic attributes
Hawthorn already drafted athletes in Smith, Hill and Hartung so they didn't need too many more.
Who funnily enough were still footballers apart from Hill
Disagree with Smith. Thought he was ordinary as a footballer on his first year or two. Has become a much better player since.
But (IMO) in his juniour years he was. Just took time to translate into the AFL
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Markov knows what to expect in AFL
Roger Vaughan
West Australian
November 26, 2015
Oleg Markov starts life as an AFL footballer with his eyes wide open.
Dad Dmitri has never minded what sports his two sons pursue, so long as they know what to expect.
The former world champion pole vaulter was beaming with pride on Tuesday, the day after Richmond recruited his elder son with pick 50 in the national draft.
When asked what advice he had passed on, Dmitri said it started a long time ago.
"I just taught him that not everything goes okay, sometimes you have a bad day," Dmitri said.
"You have to still keep your head above water, otherwise it's pretty hard.
"If you get injured, sometimes you feel like you want to kill yourself.
"He's pretty strong, mentally."
Dmitri won the 2001 world title in the pole vault, as well as the 2006 Commonwealth Games silver medal and competed at two Olympics.
His wife Valentina was also a decathlete in their native Belarus.
The family moved to Australia in the late '90s.
Oleg won a WA state championship in gymnastics and was also a handy high jumper.
But from the time he started playing schoolyard footy, he was hooked.
"Once the footy season started, he said 'no more athletics'," Oleg said.
The new Tiger said his Dad had been a massive influence ahead of starting in the AFL.
"His professionalism is far beyond anyone else I've met," Oleg said.
"The way he's handled himself, on and off the track, is always something I've looked up to.
"He always has the stories to back it up.
"So if I have any concerns or I'm going through a tough time, he's always one person who's gone through it."
But with Dmitri's pole vaulting and Oleg's background as a high jumper, can he take a screamer?
"I try to get up, yeah for sure," Oleg said.
"But the next step is taking the mark, so I have to stop fumbling."
Younger brother Tony is 12 and also looked on as Oleg spoke to the media the day after the draft.
He used to barrack for Sydney. Now he's a Tiger.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/30194297/markov-knows-what-to-expect-in-afl/
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From today's Australian
The Tigers also recruited Oleg Markov, the son of former pole vault world champion Dmitri, and defender Nathan Broad.
Oleg won a West Australian state championship in gymnastics and was also a handy high jumper. But from the time he started playing schoolyard footy, he was hooked. “Once the footy season started, he said, ‘no more athletics’,” Oleg said of his father.
The new Tiger said his dad had been a huge influence ahead of starting in the AFL.
“The way he’s handled himself, on and off the track, is always something I’ve looked up to,” Oleg said. “He always has the stories to back it up. So if I have any concerns or I’m going through a tough time, he’s always one person who’s gone through it.”
When asked what advice he had passed on, Dmitri said it started a long time ago.
“I just taught him that not everything goes OK, sometimes you have a bad day,” Dmitri said.
“You have to still keep your head above water, otherwise it’s pretty hard. If you get injured, sometimes you feel like you want to kill yourself.
“He’s pretty strong, mentally.”
Source: The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/next-rioli-determined-to-do-things-his-way/story-fnca0u4y-1227623025532?sv=c235aabf3675184631f023bab790e215)
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Claw will actually be happy for once!
You bet ya my only gripe is i wanted us to rookie him last year. Yeah hes a bit on the skinny side still, but this kid will get big enough. Not often you get an athletic freak who has good footy skills and a footy brain.
Agree with Claw all the way with Markov. Will play senior footy next year no doubt about it.
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Go look at the Instagram snap of him kicking a goal and then standing next to the goal umpire signalling a goal at the same time... :lol
I do hope he makes it but that frame..... :-\
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Go look at the Instagram snap of him kicking a goal and then standing next to the goal umpire signalling a goal at the same time... :lol
:clapping
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In the HUN whispers today, Oleg Markov has stunned Richmond officials, with one senior official declaring that Olegs first ever session to be the best he's ever seen from a draftee.
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In the HUN whispers today, Oleg Markov has stunned Richmond officials, with one senior official declaring that Olegs first ever session to be the best he's ever seen from a draftee.
:shh
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with one senior official declaring that Olegs first ever session to be the best he's ever seen from a draftee.
Maybe he's talking about a drinking session?
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So you could say... He is having his best preseason yet :shh
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Go look at the Instagram snap of him kicking a goal and then standing next to the goal umpire signalling a goal at the same time... :lol
I do hope he makes it but that frame..... :-\
He has already played against men and held his own. His size is a worry but i figure once he is in an afl environment he will beef up a bit.It may take a little while though im not sure he can play afl next yr.
This kid is not just an athlete. He has footy smarts and is a footballer.His size was the only thing that stopped him getting drafted last year imo.
His pace and huge tank means he is ideally suited to playing on a wing. He will run both ways and hes not shy about contact. Last year he spent plenty of time in the midfield.This year he spent a lot of time as a fwd and showed he can play well there.
Deledio - McIntosh - Yarran - Drummond - Menadue - Markov - Butler - Rioli People want pace and run well we now have plenty.
I said in another thread i rarely back in skinny kids but with both Menadue and Markov i am happy to see us take that risk.At the end of the day the ball is in their court theres only two ways it can go.
The pleasing thing about the players above is not just pace, they mainly have good skills and most have great endurance capabilities which with the new rule changes is going to be important.
Deledio, Mcintosh and Yarran aside maybe drummond as well, I dont envision any of them playing much senior footy next year or being regulars. Hopefully they all show enough to be given some games though.Who knows with a bit of luck a few jump out of the ground and demand a spot.
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Won't make it....should've picked Crocker....
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Go look at the Instagram snap of him kicking a goal and then standing next to the goal umpire signalling a goal at the same time... :lol
I do hope he makes it but that frame..... :-\
He has already played against men and held his own. His size is a worry but i figure once he is in an afl environment he will beef up a bit.It may take a little while though im not sure he can play afl next yr.
This kid is not just an athlete. He has footy smarts and is a footballer.His size was the only thing that stopped him getting drafted last year imo.
His pace and huge tank means he is ideally suited to playing on a wing. He will run both ways and hes not shy about contact. Last year he spent plenty of time in the midfield.This year he spent a lot of time as a fwd and showed he can play well there.
Deledio - McIntosh - Yarran - Drummond - Menadue - Markov - Butler - Rioli People want pace and run well we now have plenty.
I said in another thread i rarely back in skinny kids but with both Menadue and Markov i am happy to see us take that risk.At the end of the day the ball is in their court theres only two ways it can go.
The pleasing thing about the players above is not just pace, they mainly have good skills and most have great endurance capabilities which with the new rule changes is going to be important.
Deledio, Mcintosh and Yarran aside maybe drummond as well, I dont envision any of them playing much senior footy next year or being regulars. Hopefully they all show enough to be given some games though.Who knows with a bit of luck a few jump out of the ground and demand a spot.
I think the fact he broke his collar bones had more to do with him not getting drafted last year
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Won't make it....should've picked Crocker....
Shocker won't make it. Will end up in the press for the wrong reasons. Couldn't happen to a better club either. :rollin
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Yes because no footballer that's ever been successful played up and acted like an idiot in high school...
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Wasn't Claw against Drummond because he was a year older than the rest of the draftees? Why is Markov different?
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So you could say... He is having his best preseason yet :shh
Look if hes quick enough can we turn him into a rangey mid ala Fyfe? Id prefer that to a semi tall forward but saying that if he has confidence in front of goal then thats a useful trait.
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Wasn't Claw against Drummond because he was a year older than the rest of the draftees? Why is Markov different?
Was i, Well thats one take on it.
I believe my comments were along the line he was an over ager because a certain poster Al er i mean penny could not work out his age.
My main gripe was his disposal. Also that his stats/testing had to be looked at carefully and may not be so impressive because he was an over ager who was big bodied and virtually fully developed physically.
If you wish to read that as me being against him go for it. Im used to your butt hurt reactions at any sort of critique read, what you like into those comments you do anyway.
I must be really stuffing with your head if you have to go back 12 months. to try and score a point.
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In the HUN whispers today, Oleg Markov has stunned Richmond officials, with one senior official declaring that Olegs first ever session to be the best he's ever seen from a draftee.
translation "training the house down"
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Won't make it....should've picked Crocker....
Shocker won't make it. Will end up in the press for the wrong reasons. Couldn't happen to a better club either. :rollin
you the poster who know him as he went to school with ur son or something?
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Markov is still a young bloke with a ton of natural talent and room to fill out, I don't see the issue at the pick we got him at
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Wasn't Claw against Drummond because he was a year older than the rest of the draftees? Why is Markov different?
Was i, Well thats one take on it.
I believe my comments were along the line he was an over ager because a certain poster Al er i mean penny could not work out his age.
My main gripe was his disposal. Also that his stats/testing had to be looked at carefully and may not be so impressive because he was an over ager who was big bodied and virtually fully developed physically.
If you wish to read that as me being against him go for it. Im used to your butt hurt reactions at any sort of critique read, what you like into those comments you do anyway.
I must be really stuffing with your head if you have to go back 12 months. to try and score a point.
you may be onto something with that last comment.......
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Wasn't Claw against Drummond because he was a year older than the rest of the draftees? Why is Markov different?
Was i, Well thats one take on it.
I believe my comments were along the line he was an over ager because a certain poster Al er i mean penny could not work out his age.
My main gripe was his disposal. Also that his stats/testing had to be looked at carefully and may not be so impressive because he was an over ager who was big bodied and virtually fully developed physically.
If you wish to read that as me being against him go for it. Im used to your butt hurt reactions at any sort of critique read, what you like into those comments you do anyway.
I must be really stuffing with your head if you have to go back 12 months. to try and score a point.
You're all over the shop sometimes. I'm always butt hurt this time because I disagree with you but then not long ago you were praising me because of something I agreed with you on. Also, don't flatter yourself. I just happen to remember you pointing out he was over age which is a convenient thing for you to leave out this time because it suits you. Oh well.
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If -as Eddie says- a successful Collingwood is good for football than an angry Craw is good for OER :thumbsup
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Wasn't Claw against Drummond because he was a year older than the rest of the draftees? Why is Markov different?
Was i, Well thats one take on it.
I believe my comments were along the line he was an over ager because a certain poster Al er i mean penny could not work out his age.
My main gripe was his disposal. Also that his stats/testing had to be looked at carefully and may not be so impressive because he was an over ager who was big bodied and virtually fully developed physically.
If you wish to read that as me being against him go for it. Im used to your butt hurt reactions at any sort of critique read, what you like into those comments you do anyway.
I must be really stuffing with your head if you have to go back 12 months. to try and score a point.
You're all over the shop sometimes. I'm always butt hurt this time because I disagree with you but then not long ago you were praising me because of something I agreed with you on. Also, don't flatter yourself. I just happen to remember you pointing out he was over age which is a convenient thing for you to leave out this time because it suits you. Oh well.
Your inability to tell the difference between a fully developed player and a skinny one who has much improvement to make physically is not my problem.
The only reason Drummonds age was bought up was people talking up a players testing who was in some cases 20mnths older than other players and fully developed.And what do i cop
Wasn't Claw against Drummond because he was a year older than the rest of the draftees? Why is Markov different?
How the hell you came up with that from my comments is beyond me. Wheres the oh i apologise Claw i mistook what you said.
You want to follow me around the board making snide comments which you have been, At least expect some return fire. As i said read into my comments what you like, it seems you will anyway.
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Wasn't Claw against Drummond because he was a year older than the rest of the draftees? Why is Markov different?
Was i, Well thats one take on it.
I believe my comments were along the line he was an over ager because a certain poster Al er i mean penny could not work out his age.
My main gripe was his disposal. Also that his stats/testing had to be looked at carefully and may not be so impressive because he was an over ager who was big bodied and virtually fully developed physically.
If you wish to read that as me being against him go for it. Im used to your butt hurt reactions at any sort of critique read, what you like into those comments you do anyway.
I must be really stuffing with your head if you have to go back 12 months. to try and score a point.
You're all over the shop sometimes. I'm always butt hurt this time because I disagree with you but then not long ago you were praising me because of something I agreed with you on. Also, don't flatter yourself. I just happen to remember you pointing out he was over age which is a convenient thing for you to leave out this time because it suits you. Oh well.
Your inability to tell the difference between a fully developed player and a skinny one who has much improvement to make physically is not my problem.
The only reason Drummonds age was bought up was people talking up a players testing who was in some cases 20mnths older than other players and fully developed.And what do i cop
Wasn't Claw against Drummond because he was a year older than the rest of the draftees? Why is Markov different?
How the hell you came up with that from my comments is beyond me. Wheres the oh i apologise Claw i mistook what you said.
You want to follow me around the board making snide comments which you have been, At least expect some return fire. As i said read into my comments what you like, it seems you will anyway.
You need to chill out bro. I agreed with you re: Drummond way back when. You don't need to be so defensive. In between your attacks and ramblings you actually managed to answer the question albeit not meaning to
the difference between a fully developed player and a skinny one who has much improvement to make physically.
I could of apologised for mistaking you but I'm not sure I did. If you were man enough to show me where I was wrong instead of sooking like a preschooler I may have been able to see where I was wrong and I would have admitted it. Oh and eff me get off your high horse if you think people are following you around to make snide comments at you. People come her to read the discussion, you post something and I'm most likely going to read it and if I disagree I'll say so. So don't start thinking I have a crush on you or anything.
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Forward thinking
“The coaches have given me a little bit of a hint, here and there, of what they want. But, at the moment, just being that complete forward, who can kick goals and produce a lot of pressure. I definitely want to use my speed as an asset . . . chase people down and pressure them up.”
Top Tiger role models
“Dylan (Grimes) and Drummo (Nathan Drummond) are both very professional. I do admire them for that. Drummo’s never late, always on time, if not, he’s half an hour early. So, half the time, he’s already leaving (to go to training) and I’m still getting ready. So, there’s plenty to learn, and they’ve been the best role models for me so far. They’ve definitely made me feel like a Tiger already.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-12-18/markov-distinction
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Showed a bit :clapping
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Very good, composed, seems to have a lot of space and skills were excellent in those conditions.
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Glass half full type
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Of our 1-3 year players him and C. Ellis looked the most impressive.
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Lade on 5AA talking about Markov:
AUDIO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-02-25/lade-on-markov
* Oleg had been training up forward all pre-season and he’d done some little things here and there. Then, in an intra-club, we put him on the wing and he just took to it like a duck to water and did some really good things. In the game on the weekend against Fremantle, his speed and his endurance were amazing.
* Look, he’s still got a long way to go. He’s only 80-odd kilos now and he’s about 6' 2" or 6' 3". So, he’s got a bit of work to go with his body but there are some exciting signs for him and with what he can produce for us.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-02-25/markov-makes-his-mark
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Can't wait till he grows O leg!
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Oleg's put on at least 4kg over the summer as he was only 76kg when drafted. So that's a good sign. You'd expect him to play some senior footy this year based on what we've seen so far.
The interesting thing this year with the cubs is how many games they will get. The sub last year was often given to a young Tiger. This year with no sub and fewer rotations, the youngsters will need a strong endurance base or play out of a pocket to run out a full game.
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So are we going to just keep drafting really skinny kids and waiting years for them to "fill out"?
Blokes from Dustin Fletcher to Bob Murphy would never have played until they were at least 26 under that system.....and Robbie Flower would never have played at all...
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The kid will fill out , he s got that Belarusian physique that will respond to elite training. He s a typical fj black book special , I dunno how he keeps doing it :clapping
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The kid will fill out , he s got that Belarusian physique that will respond to elite training. He s a typical fj black book special , I dunno how he keeps doing it :clapping
Considering that FJ has been there since 2005 and we haven't won a final in that time, it seems we need another ?20 black book specials….. :whistle
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I got news for you , fj wasn't a ft staff of RFC in 2005, check the annual report for the facts ....sorry to have to tell you that , :lol
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I got news for you , fj wasn't a ft staff of RFC in 2005, check the annual report for the facts ....sorry to have to tell you that , :lol
Semantics IMHO. The point stands
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I got news for you , fj wasn't a ft staff of RFC in 2005, check the annual report for the facts ....sorry to have to tell you that , :lol
Semantics IMHO. The point stands
point stands that if you don't have GOOD recruiting, you don't make finals, coz you don't win games :o , you can look elsewhere for pinning the blame of a finals loss ::) :shh
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I got news for you , fj wasn't a ft staff of RFC in 2005, check the annual report for the facts ....sorry to have to tell you that , :lol
Semantics IMHO. The point stands
point stands that if you don't have GOOD recruiting, you don't make finals, coz you don't win games :o , you can look elsewhere for pinning the blame of a finals loss ::) :shh
Considering 8 out 18 teams make the finals and we have been finishing 8th, our black book specials have been rather pedestrian. With so many, surely we should have been finishing top 4 for the last few years?
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I don't think history shows we ve finished 8th in last three years or are you telling mistruths to embellish your story ::) when you win 15 games and then lose a final , it aint the recruiters fault sunny jim, cmon, at least be rational about it, leaders, coach, ill accept that but recruiter, try again :boredom
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I don't think history shows we ve finished 8th in last three years or are you telling mistruths to embellish your story ::) when you win 15 games and then lose a final , it aint the recruiters fault sunny jim, cmon, at least be rational about it, leaders, coach, ill accept that but recruiter, try again :boredom
I'll put it another way sunny jim. With all these black book specials, why have we been unable win a final in the last 3 years? Why haven't these black book specials had enough leadership to get us over the line?
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You beauty
What a great effort from the kid
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I liked his run. I like his read of the ball. He's got great speed.
Good signs.
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I'm a fan, this kid will be a player
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Rolls Royce. Gotta look after this bloke and get him a little beefier but gee he is a good mover, got some toe too.
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Oleg was impressive on debut. 18 possies at 83%, 9 marks, 4 tackles. His (and the other cubs') leg speed made a big difference to us tonight compared to our usual slow stop start plodding we've seen this year. The kid looks to have a footy brain too which makes a pleasant change. Loved his run and overlap to receive. Something we've been badly missing.
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Oleg was impressive on debut. 18 possies at 83%, 9 marks, 4 tackles. His (and the other cubs') leg speed made a big difference to us tonight compared to our usual slow stop start plodding we've seen this year. The kid looks to have a footy brain too which makes a pleasant change. Loved his run and overlap to receive. Something we've been badly missing.
x 2
Impressive
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Good to have dash for a change
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As l have said before some players drafted need to be played as they go better at the top level. It's not easy for some players playing good football at VFL level on smaller spaces
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In the same vein, we should give Butler a go.....
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Or we could keep playing b Ellis / hunt
That's goin well
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As l have said before some players drafted need to be played as they go better at the top level. It's not easy for some players playing good football at VFL level on smaller spaces
Agree with this. Markov moves very well across the ground and gets to the right positions.......this allows him to play better at the higher level. Short is the same :clapping
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He looks to kick forward first instead of handball :clapping
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I was surprised at how at ease he seemed to adjust to the pace of the AFL. Hopefully he can back this up next week and for the remainder of the season.
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Kicked a nice goal
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Apologies wrong player, however played a good game.
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Seeing kids run around out there just made dimmer's buddy list look even more pathetic.
Such a loser to only ever drop blokes and play youth due to inescapable circumstances.
Benny Gayle is a loser too.
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Seeing kids run around out there just made dimmer's buddy list look even more pathetic.
Such a loser to only ever drop blokes and play youth due to inescapable circumstances.
Benny Gayle is a loser too.
Must wait until finals is not a Mathematical impossibility before giving anyone younger than 22 a go
Steady Eddie wins the race
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I was surprised at how at ease he seemed to adjust to the pace of the AFL. Hopefully he can back this up next week and for the remainder of the season.
Next week won't be a problem as we are playing a VFL side.
:cheers
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Claw will actually be happy for once!
You bet ya my only gripe is i wanted us to rookie him last year. Yeah hes a bit on the skinny side still, but this kid will get big enough. Not often you get an athletic freak who has good footy skills and a footy brain.
Anyone still think its a bad call. If this kid ever bulks up enough and i think he will in time we will have some sort of player.
Personally i see a good bit of rob Murphy in this kid. I can also see him tearing up an MCG wing.
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Claw will actually be happy for once!
You bet ya my only gripe is i wanted us to rookie him last year. Yeah hes a bit on the skinny side still, but this kid will get big enough. Not often you get an athletic freak who has good footy skills and a footy brain.
Anyone still think its a bad call. If this kid ever bulks up enough and i think he will in time we will have some sort of player.
Personally i see a good bit of rob Murphy in this kid. I can also see him tearing up an MCG wing.
It's bad taste to quote yourself in trying to make a point
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As l have said before some players drafted need to be played as they go better at the top level. It's not easy for some players playing good football at VFL level on smaller spaces
Agree 100%. Hard to play well for a basketcase that is our VFL team. Though the 'iceberg' played really really well.
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Claw will actually be happy for once!
You bet ya my only gripe is i wanted us to rookie him last year. Yeah hes a bit on the skinny side still, but this kid will get big enough. Not often you get an athletic freak who has good footy skills and a footy brain.
Anyone still think its a bad call. If this kid ever bulks up enough and i think he will in time we will have some sort of player.
Personally i see a good bit of rob Murphy in this kid. I can also see him tearing up an MCG wing.
It's bad taste to quote yourself in trying to make a point
LMFAO
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Quoting yourself is ok if you are an absolute legend
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Quoting yourself is ok if you are an absolute legend
Right you are Owl, right you are
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Hardwick couldn't recognise a good player if it jumped out of his corn flakes. He's probably thinking who the stuff is this kid and where did he come from. Too busy having larfs at the vfl games than to watch the game. When asked which kids youre excited about a couple of weeks ago he couldnt list any names. He'll need to get to know Oleg and Jason during the week.
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Quoting yourself is ok if you are an absolute legend
Right you are Owl, right you are
:lol
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Thought it funny watching Markov (and George) running past teammates as an option and quickly making space for a return possession, it was like the other players hadnt seen anything like it before and momentarily didnt know what to do.
So differen to the passengers we have been carrying who were quite happy to jog around with no real intent or urgency. Although a one on one with Hardwick should knock this aspect of his game out of him.
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:lol
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Should be nominated for rising star this week
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Agree with this. Markov moves very well across the ground and gets to the right positions.......this allows him to play better at the higher level. Short is the same :clapping
Just remember this over the next couple of weeks.
On debut he seemed to always be in the right spot. That's great but he may just have had one of those games where everything worked.
Please cut him a bit of slack if next week he has one of those games, as Jack said, he is always where the ball aint.
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Agree with this. Markov moves very well across the ground and gets to the right positions.......this allows him to play better at the higher level. Short is the same :clapping
Just remember this over the next couple of weeks.
On debut he seemed to always be in the right spot. That's great but he may just have had one of those games where everything worked.
Please cut him a bit of slack if next week he has one of those games, as Jack said, he is always where the ball aint.
No problems. Markov gets to the right positions in the VFL also even though he doesn't get used mainly due to the quality of VFL listed players.
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Quoting yourself is ok if you are an absolute legend
Right you are Owl, right you are
:rollin :lol :rollin
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I'm pretty excited about this kid.
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Thought it funny watching Markov (and George) running past teammates as an option and quickly making space for a return possession, it was like the other players hadnt seen anything like it before and momentarily didnt know what to do.
Neither did I. Thought I was at the wrong game.
What a terrific debut. Exactly what the side needs.
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Thought it funny watching Markov (and George) running past teammates as an option and quickly making space for a return possession, it was like the other players hadnt seen anything like it before and momentarily didnt know what to do.
So differen to the passengers we have been carrying who were quite happy to jog around with no real intent or urgency. Although a one on one with Hardwick should knock this aspect of his game out of him.
Funny cause true
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One of the most impressive debuts I have seen from a young Tiger for a while.
I must admit I didn't think he was even close to getting a game this year after watching him at seconds level.
Rapt for the kid and I hope he just keeps on getting better.
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A real upgrade on Bachelor.
This guy has speed to burn!
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The tip of the iceberg!
Apparently they have " known about these guys for a while".
LMAO.
RICHMOND supporters are as stupid as the Americans who allowed George Bush to
Spin poo, as they bent over and spread theor cheeks.
#Getontherollercoaster
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Hardwick couldn't recognise a good player if it jumped out of his corn flakes. He's probably thinking who the stuff is this kid and where did he come from. Too busy having larfs at the vfl games than to watch the game. When asked which kids youre excited about a couple of weeks ago he couldnt list any names. He'll need to get to know Oleg and Jason during the week.
That's right.
We wouldn't have even seen Miles unless of his love fantasies pulled a heartstring.
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The tip of the iceberg!
Apparently they have " known about these guys for a while".
LMAO.
RICHMOND supporters are as stupid as the Americans who allowed George Bush to
Spin poo, as they bent over and spread theor cheeks.
#Getontherollercoaster
but we had to see what morris and houli were going to offer
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Needs to continually make a contest but his running is unreal. Keeps going and at a high speed too :clapping
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Needs to continually make a contest but his running is unreal. Keeps going and at a high speed too :clapping
# unrichmondlike
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26 disposals (73% eff.)
12 marks
10 Rebound D50s.
4 Inside F50s
Surely, Oleg will be the Rising Star nominee this week.
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26 disposals (73% eff.)
12 marks
10 Rebound D50s.
4 Inside F50s
Surely, Oleg will be the Rising Star nominee this week.
Has to be
He was bloody fantastic
Sacry to think we may have got a late pick right
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26 disposals (73% eff.)
12 marks
10 Rebound D50s.
4 Inside F50s
Surely, Oleg will be the Rising Star nominee this week.
Has to be, they're scraping the barrel now giving Moore a nomination in half a game, surely Oleg gets it.
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Excellent.
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Sensational! His and Shorts kicking is just so pure :cheers
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Can you imagine him in 3 years with more weight, strength and speed?
Could be anything this kid.
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He needs to be gelded, very coltish
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Love the way Imelda plays
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Young Tiger has the mark of a champion
AFL.com.au
6 August 2016
YOUNG Tiger Oleg Markov credits his famous pole-vaulting father Dmitri in helping him understand the hard work and dedication required to reach the elite level of football.
Dmitri Markov, a Belarusian and Australian pole vault world champion, was on hand as his 20-year-old son gathered a career-high 26 disposals to play a vital role in Richmond's 15-point win over Collingwood at the MCG on Friday night.
"Dad never pushed me into anything and he was always saying go out, enjoy as many sports as you can – I did tennis, I did gymnastics, I did a whole variety of different sports," Markov told AFL.com.au.
External noise? That's a roar
"Dad was always one who wouldn't waste time training me if I wasn't working hard.
"He'd say, 'You can go through the motions and float through but that's just a waste of a training session. You might as well not have gone.' Working hard is something I pride myself on."
Although drafted as a forward, the defender, selected with pick No.50 in last year's NAB AFL Draft, displayed some of his father's trademark spring as he hauled in 12 marks, while also showing a preparedness to be bold and take the game on.
Coach Damien Hardwick said the Tigers have high hopes for Markov.
"He’s a player we've liked. Choco (development coach Mark Williams) at the start of the year (said he was) one of the better kids he’s seen in his time," Hardwick said.
"His ability to cover the ground, he can change his mind, and he's really athletic.
"He’s got a little way to go, but it’s really exciting to see a player take the game on like him."
The North Adelaide product, born in Belarus, missed out on being drafted when he was 18 but he said the disappointment of not being taken by a club steeled him for what was to come.
"I feel like resilience is one of my best friends in a way," Markov said.
"I didn't get drafted in my draft year and probably could have easily given up, but just the persistence of trying to get better and make the best version of myself, no-one else, just myself [was something that drove me]."
Markov has another peculiar pursuit outside of footy with one of those passions, back in Adelaide, involving taking apart old motorbikes and cars and seeing how they function.
He says it is a good release from the day-to-day grind of footy.
"I'm a bit of a tinkerer. I like old things. I like antiques," Markov said.
"It's just another passion. You're always surrounded by footy and it's everywhere in the media, so it's just a matter of having that time where you can switch off for an hour or two and that's always good."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-06/young-tiger-has-the-mark-of-a-champion
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Reminds me of Lids in some ways, clean with ball in hand and straightened our movement forward on occasions. If he can get some overhead contested marking into his game once his body develops then i think we might have a mighty fine player here.
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Very good game last night.
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What surprised me was when he was being interviewed by Richo after the game.
He's got a fair bit of size about him.
Only listed as 188cm but he looks taller.
Lovely size for a HBF.
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OMG! 672m gained! :clapping :bow :cheers
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Made a couple of blues but never dropped his head, just gets back up and keeps taking the game on and usually makes up for it....looks like we might have at least to concede this one to ol' Santa Claws*..... :clapping
*until Halfstep coaches it out of him.....
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OMG! 672m gained! :clapping :bow :cheers
:shh
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Could be anything this kid
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Made a couple of blues but never dropped his head, just gets back up and keeps taking the game on and usually makes up for it....looks like we might have at least to concede this one to ol' Santa Claws*..... :clapping
*until Halfstep coaches it out of him.....
Or unless Bacher shoots him another hospital handball that allows the opposition to break his collarbone...
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He and Short have been the shining lights of 2016 for me.
I must admit I didn't give Markov much chance after watching him earlier this year in the 2's.
Both give fantastic run and both use the ball really well.
Well done to both lads.
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Made a couple of blues but never dropped his head, just gets back up and keeps taking the game on and usually makes up for it....looks like we might have at least to concede this one to ol' Santa Claws*..... :clapping
*until Halfstep coaches it out of him.....
Or unless Bacher shoots him another hospital handball that allows the opposition to break his collarbone...
oh yeah that was rough as guts and Houli didn't have the decency to shepherd or try create an overlap, in fact he had more clearance than Oleg before he handed it off.
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Yeah Houli acting as witness for the defence as usual....it's no wonder our kids don't develop with so-called senior players like him around them setting the example....
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OMG! 672m gained! :clapping :bow :cheers
Over 250m more than his next teammate.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpIc36iVUAAFiwU.jpg)
https://twitter.com/TigerlandTone/status/761703036108419073
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Good game. Hope he continues to develop into a very good player for us.
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OMG! 672m gained! :clapping :bow :cheers
Over 250m more than his next teammate.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpIc36iVUAAFiwU.jpg)
https://twitter.com/TigerlandTone/status/761703036108419073
I've been saying it since day one that Ellis is just a waste of time. He gained 8metres each time he touched the footy.
Scared little hole!!
I hate him!!
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OMG! 672m gained! :clapping :bow :cheers
Over 250m more than his next teammate.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpIc36iVUAAFiwU.jpg)
https://twitter.com/TigerlandTone/status/761703036108419073
I've been saying it since day one that Ellis is just a waste of time. He gained 8metres each time he touched the footy.
Scared little behindhole!!
I hate him!!
:lol
I knew you would catch onto that big tone! You didn't let me down! :thumbsup
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How is it possible that Grimes has 14 disposals and only gains 3 metres??????
Keep in mind I haven't watched the game yet...
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How is it possible that Grimes has 14 disposals and only gains 3 metres??????
Keep in mind I haven't watched the game yet...
Does handballing backwards equate to 0 or negative metres gained? If so that'd be my guess. Usually gives it off to a player running past
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LOL the weirdo defies all logic
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Grimes is a good player
Wake up
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nobody said he wasn't, we are laughing about the stats go back to sleep, it was all a dream
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He's often given a suicide handball with three running at him, so he goes back
Good at playing within his limits too
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OMG! 672m gained! :clapping :bow :cheers
Over 250m more than his next teammate.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpIc36iVUAAFiwU.jpg)
https://twitter.com/TigerlandTone/status/761703036108419073
I've been saying it since day one that Ellis is just a waste of time. He gained 8metres each time he touched the footy.
Scared little behindhole!!
I hate him!!
:lol
I knew you would catch onto that big tone! You didn't let me down! :thumbsup
I'm preaching to the converted with you now though, aren't I?
Send that little prick off to St.Kilda and let us play one up in stead of one down when we play them next year.
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Did he get the nomination?
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T hunt too
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Did he get the nomination?
No, Dunkley from the Bulldogs got it.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/western-bulldogs/josh-dunkley-earns-round-20-rising-star-nomination-and-backs-bulldogs-teammate-caleb-daniel-to-win-award/news-story/0aec74f283b8e51e1073af06e3590a97
Duckley's 19 disposals, 4 marks vs Markov's 26 disposals, 12 marks + 672m gained :huh3.
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...fmd someone is getting some woodwork shellacked somewhere
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Markov 'gifted' games in 2016
Daniel Cherny
The Age
25 January 2017
Second-year Richmond defender Oleg Markov concedes he was "gifted" games in 2016 and says he is no lock to make the Tigers' side for round one.
With Richmond effectively out of finals contention by July, Markov became a regular in the second-half of last season, playing eight consecutive games from his debut in round 16, and was praised for his poise.
But 2017 presents a new set of challenges for the South Australian, who believes that he while he has been improving over the pre-season, he is not assuming he will be in Richmond's best 22.
"I feel I was quite gifted with a few games last year due to injury," Markov said in Maroochydore, where the Tigers are this week conducting a pre-season camp.
"It's no excuse to drop off now. I've still got to establish a spot, I'm still no certainty and the way the boys are training now, anyone could play round one."
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-richmond-youngster-oleg-markov-says-he-was-gifted-games-in-2016-20170123-gtx75u.html
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And to think this guy was being voted for as favourite player of the year on this site. Thankfully common sense prevailed with teh result
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Definitely a place for him in the team. Wouldn't bother with Hunt, Houli, Grigg, Batchelor etc when this guy could have a crack.
And will no more Lids and Yarran being delisted we will need some pace around the ground.
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And to think this guy was being voted for as favourite player of the year on this site. Thankfully common sense prevailed with teh result
What?
Humility? I think that's a greta trait in a youngster. Oleg waited a while for these "gifted" games. The way the side was performing he should have been selected earlier. His first game was a beauty and justified his selection. Probably better than any age Batch has ever played for us. From memory close to 100% disposal efficiency! :clapping
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And to think this guy was being voted for as favourite player of the year on this site. Thankfully common sense prevailed with teh result
What?
Humility? I think that's a greta trait in a youngster. Oleg waited a while for these "gifted" games. The way the side was performing he should have been selected earlier. His first game was a beauty and justified his selection. Probably better than any age Batch has ever played for us. From memory close to 100% disposal efficiency! :clapping
Humility? That's it?
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And to think this guy was being voted for as favourite player of the year on this site. Thankfully common sense prevailed with teh result
What?
Humility? I think that's a greta trait in a youngster. Oleg waited a while for these "gifted" games. The way the side was performing he should have been selected earlier. His first game was a beauty and justified his selection. Probably better than any age Batch has ever played for us. From memory close to 100% disposal efficiency! :clapping
Humility? That's it?
Ok.
Full list.
Faster than Batch.
More agile than Batch.
More run than Batch.
Younger than Batch.
More upside than Batch.
Kicks goals from the backline.
Can play wing or half forward too.
Humility.
Good genes!
Also a nice guy (like Batch).
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Hmmmm do I smell sour grapes
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Hmmmm do I smell sour grapes
(http://all-len-all.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/sour-grapes.jpg)
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And to think this guy was being voted for as favourite player of the year on this site. Thankfully common sense prevailed with teh result
What?
Humility? I think that's a greta trait in a youngster. Oleg waited a while for these "gifted" games. The way the side was performing he should have been selected earlier. His first game was a beauty and justified his selection. Probably better than any age Batch has ever played for us. From memory close to 100% disposal efficiency! :clapping
Humility? That's it?
Ok.
Full list.
Faster than Batch.
More agile than Batch.
More run than Batch.
Younger than Batch.
More upside than Batch.
Kicks goals from the backline.
Can play wing or half forward too.
Humility.
Good genes!
Also a nice guy (like Batch).
I can top that on behalf of Batch:-
Less likely to generate sour grapes on his behalf
Plays as a small or a third tall
Better defensive skills
Better tackler
Better spoiler
More mature
Doesn't corral
Plays through injury (higher pain threshold)
Doesn't complain he doesn't deserve his spot
When a fight is on he doesn't hesitate to help his mates
Better build for a footballer
Brings others into play
Has a proven tack record within a defensive unit
Reliable
Dependable rather than a flash in the pan type (so to speak)
Can be trusted around small animals
Nutritionally disciplined
Greater focus to tasks at hand
A good listener
Doesn't need articles to spruke his upside
Calming influence on teammates
Faster learner
Less likely to fail in parents footsteps
Better at winning the ball on the ground
Keeps a ship shape locker
Superior personal hygiene
Club towel snapping champion
More adaptable to change
And, if in doubt, OER's favourite player!
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And, if in doubt, OER's favourite player!
Says it all really :clapping
The sooner some accept reality the better
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ROFL!
Serious question. When both careers have ended, who do you think will have played the best football?
I think Oleg. He has huge upside. Batch has played for years and has not hit great heights. I think Oleg will easily surpass them.
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And, if in doubt, OER's favourite player!
Says it all really :clapping
The sooner some accept reality the better
I don't take notice of fixed results created by a small group of organised voters. :shh
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:facepalm
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:facepalm
:facepalm :facepalm
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ROFL!
Serious question. When both careers have ended, who do you think will have played the best football?
I think Oleg. He has huge upside. Batch has played for years and has not hit great heights. I think Oleg will easily surpass them.
Jake plays a particular role for the team. Selfless. Team orientated. Valued inner sanctum player. OER player of the year. Deserved. By people who know. :shh
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(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/leaving-now-grandpa-simpsons.gif)
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Love this kid. Humble and very professional in the way he goes about it. He is going to be a very good player for us.
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(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/leaving-now-grandpa-simpsons.gif)
:lol
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Love this kid. Humble and very professional in the way he goes about it. He is going to be a very good player for us.
Are you talking about Batch, if so I agree. Also does charity work which makes him very charitable :shh
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Kicked a goal from the backline.
EFA.
Let's not carried away, we don't need to feed the fans some B.S like we copped with the Jacob "kicks goals from stoppages" Townsend
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Kicked a goal from the backline.
EFA.
Let's not carried away, we don't need to feed the fans some B.S like we copped with the Jacob "kicks goals from stoppages" Townsend
:lol
Why don't you make a comment on the hyperbole written about Batch? In 6 years he can't even hold his position in the side but some here have him as the second coming!
"Plays as a small...." LMAO. Eddie Betts would kick 10 on him.
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Kicked a goal from the backline.
EFA.
Let's not carried away, we don't need to feed the fans some B.S like we copped with the Jacob "kicks goals from stoppages" Townsend
:lol
Why don't you make a comment on the hyperbole written about Batch? In 6 years he can't even hold his position in the side but some here have him as the second coming!
"Plays as a small...." LMAO. Eddie Betts would kick 10 on him.
Your comparing an unfit Batch with another fit player and expecting the same output? You if anyone should know that doesnt add up.
Hes been injured. Last year he played with jabs which numbed his lower legs, hence some of the poor kicking. A fit batch is first 22. And Hardwick thinks it.
Meanwhile your man Mrakrov admits he was gifted games last year. Might i add he played loose and wasnt set any jobs. Even Jason Cloke looked like a star playing loose in defence.
Pretty obvious what the pecking order is.
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Kicked a goal from the backline.
EFA.
Let's not carried away, we don't need to feed the fans some B.S like we copped with the Jacob "kicks goals from stoppages" Townsend
:lol
Why don't you make a comment on the hyperbole written about Batch? In 6 years he can't even hold his position in the side but some here have him as the second coming!
"Plays as a small...." LMAO. Eddie Betts would kick 10 on him.
Your comparing an unfit Batch with another fit player and expecting the same output? You if anyone should know that doesnt add up.
Hes been injured. Last year he played with jabs which numbed his lower legs, hence some of the poor kicking. A fit batch is first 22. And Hardwick thinks it.
Meanwhile your man Mrakrov admits he was gifted games last year. Might i add he played loose and wasnt set any jobs. Even Jason Cloke looked like a star playing loose in defence.
Pretty obvious what the pecking order is.
I guess we wait 3 years and then comment..
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Kicked a goal from the backline.
EFA.
Let's not carried away, we don't need to feed the fans some B.S like we copped with the Jacob "kicks goals from stoppages" Townsend
:lol
Why don't you make a comment on the hyperbole written about Batch? In 6 years he can't even hold his position in the side but some here have him as the second coming!
"Plays as a small...." LMAO. Eddie Betts would kick 10 on him.
Your comparing an unfit Batch with another fit player and expecting the same output? You if anyone should know that doesnt add up.
Hes been injured. Last year he played with jabs which numbed his lower legs, hence some of the poor kicking. A fit batch is first 22. And Hardwick thinks it.
Meanwhile your man Mrakrov admits he was gifted games last year. Might i add he played loose and wasnt set any jobs. Even Jason Cloke looked like a star playing loose in defence.
Pretty obvious what the pecking order is.
I guess we wait 3 years and then comment..
I choose to comment in the now, and deal in facts ;)
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Kicked a goal from the backline.
EFA.
Let's not carried away, we don't need to feed the fans some B.S like we copped with the Jacob "kicks goals from stoppages" Townsend
:lol
Why don't you make a comment on the hyperbole written about Batch? In 6 years he can't even hold his position in the side but some here have him as the second coming!
"Plays as a small...." LMAO. Eddie Betts would kick 10 on him.
Your comparing an unfit Batch with another fit player and expecting the same output? You if anyone should know that doesnt add up.
Hes been injured. Last year he played with jabs which numbed his lower legs, hence some of the poor kicking. A fit batch is first 22. And Hardwick thinks it.
Meanwhile your man Mrakrov admits he was gifted games last year. Might i add he played loose and wasnt set any jobs. Even Jason Cloke looked like a star playing loose in defence.
Pretty obvious what the pecking order is.
I guess we wait 3 years and then comment..
I choose to comment in the now, and deal in facts ;)
Even with second year blues, I'm prepared to look at this at the half way mark of the 2017 season. TBH I hope they are both starring because that means the team will be doing well.
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Batch is a given to star, no need to speculate about that
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Hes been injured. Last year he played with jabs which numbed his lower legs, hence some of the poor kicking. A fit batch is first 22. And Hardwick thinks it.
You know that or believe that? Hardwick rates him???
I doubt it.
;D
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Hes been injured. Last year he played with jabs which numbed his lower legs, hence some of the poor kicking. A fit batch is first 22. And Hardwick thinks it.
You know that or believe that? Hardwick rates him???
I doubt it.
;D
well he rates Hampson so why not....
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Hes been injured. Last year he played with jabs which numbed his lower legs, hence some of the poor kicking. A fit batch is first 22. And Hardwick thinks it.
You know that or believe that? Hardwick rates him???
I doubt it.
;D
I dont doubt its sour grapes
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Hes been injured. Last year he played with jabs which numbed his lower legs, hence some of the poor kicking. A fit batch is first 22. And Hardwick thinks it.
You know that or believe that? Hardwick rates him???
I doubt it.
;D
well he rates Hampson so why not....
He rates Taylor Hunt, he rated Stevie Morris to put him in the leadership group ffs
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Hes been injured. Last year he played with jabs which numbed his lower legs, hence some of the poor kicking. A fit batch is first 22. And Hardwick thinks it.
You know that or believe that? Hardwick rates him???
I doubt it.
;D
I dont doubt its sour grapes
What sour grapes :huh3
I'm a Batch fan, think he was made a scapegoat during 2016, hence why I don't reckon Hardwick rates him at all. ;)
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Hes been injured. Last year he played with jabs which numbed his lower legs, hence some of the poor kicking. A fit batch is first 22. And Hardwick thinks it.
You know that or believe that? Hardwick rates him???
I doubt it.
;D
I dont doubt its sour grapes
What sour grapes :huh3
I'm a Batch fan, think he was made a scapegoat during 2016, hence why I don't reckon Hardwick rates him at all. ;)
You know that or believe that?
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Only fact being overlooked is Batchelor is a dud and under performed the entire time he has been there.
Was one of the last to be re-signed last yr and obviously hung on by the skin of his teeth.Typical Richmond we love our duds and just cant let em go.
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Only fact being overlooked is Batchelor is a dud and under performed the entire time he has been there.
Was one of the last to be re-signed last yr and obviously hung on by the skin of his teeth.Typical Richmond we love our duds and just cant let em go.
They truly believe these guys can go elsewhere and really hurt us.
Sadly, anyone can really hurt us, even our own poo players.
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Batch is symptomatic of a bad recruiting team and of a second rate footy team. Not quite tall enough or small enough, too slow, makes average decisions and shocking disposal clangers. Would not get a game anywhere else. Markov on the other hand has the attributes of a long term exciting player. Chalk and cheese.
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Batch is symptomatic of a bad recruiting team and of a second rate footy team. Not quite tall enough or small enough, too slow, makes average decisions and shocking disposal clangers. Would not get a game anywhere else. Markov on the other hand has the attributes of a long term exciting player. Chalk and cheese.
:clapping
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You know that or believe that?
Both ;) ;D
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You know that or believe that?
Both ;) ;D
Nope :nope
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
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Lol.
The fishing going on with the Batch thing is gold.
It's attracted the wrong fish, they were going for the big Kahuna in WAT and have had to settle for a few basa fillets.
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Lol.
The fishing going on with the Batch thing is gold.
It's attracted the wrong fish, they were going for the big Kahuna in WAT and have had to settle for a few basa fillets.
:yep
Pretty amazing how many other fish they've caught using regular old WAT bait. ;D
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Lol.
The fishing going on with the Batch thing is gold.
It's attracted the wrong fish, they were going for the big Kahuna in WAT and have had to settle for a few basa fillets.
I realise they are baiting but I thought this is a clear breach of forum rules. Getting them to continue this charade is a lot worse for the baiters than the baitee! :whistle
I look forwards to their response. :pillowfight
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
Dont project your own hypocritcal and incorrect contextual standards on my posts.
I support anyone in a Richmond jumper. The difference between Batch and Hampson is at least Batch has had an excuse for playing poorly (injury). Hampson plays poor when he is fit.
And by 'others' did i mention 'you'?
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
Dont project your own hypocritcal and incorrect contextual standards on my posts.
I support anyone in a Richmond jumper. The difference between Batch and Hampson is at least Batch has had an excuse for playing poorly (injury). Hampson plays poor when he is fit.
And by 'others' did i mention 'you'?
LMAO.
Do you know the injuries Shaun has had to deal with over the last three years?
Ignorance is never an excuse. Just because you think he is 100% fit doesn't mean he is.
Bloody hell. I thought you were cleverer than that.
So that's worse. You bag someone because you wrongly assume they're fit but use the same issues as an excuse on someone else for their poor output.
Not good Dooks. You're not convincing me at all that you are correct in your approach here.
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
Dont project your own hypocritcal and incorrect contextual standards on my posts.
I support anyone in a Richmond jumper. The difference between Batch and Hampson is at least Batch has had an excuse for playing poorly (injury). Hampson plays poor when he is fit.
And by 'others' did i mention 'you'?
LMAO.
Do you know the injuries Shaun has had to deal with over the last three years?
Ignorance is never an excuse. Just because you think he is 100% fit doesn't mean he is.
Bloody hell. I thought you were cleverer than that.
So that's worse. You bag someone because you wrongly assume they're fit but use the same issues as an excuse on someone else for their poor output.
Not good Dooks. You're not convincing me at all that you are correct in your approach here.
Hampson played 20 matches in 2016 what excuse do you have for him last year
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
Dont project your own hypocritcal and incorrect contextual standards on my posts.
I support anyone in a Richmond jumper. The difference between Batch and Hampson is at least Batch has had an excuse for playing poorly (injury). Hampson plays poor when he is fit.
And by 'others' did i mention 'you'?
LMAO.
Do you know the injuries Shaun has had to deal with over the last three years?
Ignorance is never an excuse. Just because you think he is 100% fit doesn't mean he is.
Bloody hell. I thought you were cleverer than that.
So that's worse. You bag someone because you wrongly assume they're fit but use the same issues as an excuse on someone else for their poor output.
Not good Dooks. You're not convincing me at all that you are correct in your approach here.
Hampson played 20 matches in 2016 what excuse do you have for him last year
He played with injury though that limited him. I didn't say I rate him though. However, if Batchelor can use the excuse for poor form and playing VFL because he was carrying injuries, why can't Shaun?
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
Dont project your own hypocritcal and incorrect contextual standards on my posts.
I support anyone in a Richmond jumper. The difference between Batch and Hampson is at least Batch has had an excuse for playing poorly (injury). Hampson plays poor when he is fit.
And by 'others' did i mention 'you'?
LMAO.
Do you know the injuries Shaun has had to deal with over the last three years?
Ignorance is never an excuse. Just because you think he is 100% fit doesn't mean he is.
Bloody hell. I thought you were cleverer than that.
So that's worse. You bag someone because you wrongly assume they're fit but use the same issues as an excuse on someone else for their poor output.
Not good Dooks. You're not convincing me at all that you are correct in your approach here.
Hampson played 20 matches in 2016 what excuse do you have for him last year
He played with injury though that limited him. I didn't say I rate him though. However, if Batchelor can use the excuse for poor form and playing VFL because he was carrying injuries, why can't Shaun?
Ahh did he now :snidegrin
I think you will find with a bit of research that Batch's injuries were much more severe than Hampson's superficial ones
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
Dont project your own hypocritcal and incorrect contextual standards on my posts.
I support anyone in a Richmond jumper. The difference between Batch and Hampson is at least Batch has had an excuse for playing poorly (injury). Hampson plays poor when he is fit.
And by 'others' did i mention 'you'?
LMAO.
Do you know the injuries Shaun has had to deal with over the last three years?
Ignorance is never an excuse. Just because you think he is 100% fit doesn't mean he is.
Bloody hell. I thought you were cleverer than that.
So that's worse. You bag someone because you wrongly assume they're fit but use the same issues as an excuse on someone else for their poor output.
Not good Dooks. You're not convincing me at all that you are correct in your approach here.
You are assuming for some reason im here to convince you. You can hold your opinion for all i care.
As Chuck inferred, my opinion is also that Hampson played fit last year yet still dudded it up. And that is when he copped the majority of the heat on this site. When Batch was fit he was playing well.
If you want to beleive thats some sort of double standard which prejudices Hampson but not Batch, or have your own opinion of who played well and when, then by all means believe away.
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
Dont project your own hypocritcal and incorrect contextual standards on my posts.
I support anyone in a Richmond jumper. The difference between Batch and Hampson is at least Batch has had an excuse for playing poorly (injury). Hampson plays poor when he is fit.
And by 'others' did i mention 'you'?
LMAO.
Do you know the injuries Shaun has had to deal with over the last three years?
Ignorance is never an excuse. Just because you think he is 100% fit doesn't mean he is.
Bloody hell. I thought you were cleverer than that.
So that's worse. You bag someone because you wrongly assume they're fit but use the same issues as an excuse on someone else for their poor output.
Not good Dooks. You're not convincing me at all that you are correct in your approach here.
Hampson played 20 matches in 2016 what excuse do you have for him last year
He played with injury though that limited him. I didn't say I rate him though. However, if Batchelor can use the excuse for poor form and playing VFL because he was carrying injuries, why can't Shaun?
Ahh did he now :snidegrin
I think you will find with a bit of research that Batch's injuries were much more severe than Hampson's superficial ones
I think you'll find that many injuries aren't out there for public consumption! Do you actually think you know what injuries each player has? I know certain things because of my profession. Enough to know that most of you have no idea about many of the ailments players have.
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
Dont project your own hypocritcal and incorrect contextual standards on my posts.
I support anyone in a Richmond jumper. The difference between Batch and Hampson is at least Batch has had an excuse for playing poorly (injury). Hampson plays poor when he is fit.
And by 'others' did i mention 'you'?
LMAO.
Do you know the injuries Shaun has had to deal with over the last three years?
Ignorance is never an excuse. Just because you think he is 100% fit doesn't mean he is.
Bloody hell. I thought you were cleverer than that.
So that's worse. You bag someone because you wrongly assume they're fit but use the same issues as an excuse on someone else for their poor output.
Not good Dooks. You're not convincing me at all that you are correct in your approach here.
You are assuming for some reason im here to convince you. You can hold your opinion for all i care.
As Chuck inferred, my opinion is also that Hampson played fit last year yet still dudded it up. And that is when he copped the majority of the heat on this site. When Batch was fit he was playing well.
If you want to beleive thats some sort of double standard which prejudices Hampson but not Batch, or have your own opinion of who played well and when, then by all means believe away.
I'm not assuming anything. When people discuss things they usually do so to let the other person understand why they believe what they do. Your opinion that Hampson played fit is incorrect. I'm not sure you want to believe that but it is what it is. You can go on believing you know otherwise but I'm telling you you are wrong. Plain and simple. Of course you can go on saying you believe this because it suits your argument and there's not much I can do to alter that. I don't really care to be honest too.
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
Dont project your own hypocritcal and incorrect contextual standards on my posts.
I support anyone in a Richmond jumper. The difference between Batch and Hampson is at least Batch has had an excuse for playing poorly (injury). Hampson plays poor when he is fit.
And by 'others' did i mention 'you'?
LMAO.
Do you know the injuries Shaun has had to deal with over the last three years?
Ignorance is never an excuse. Just because you think he is 100% fit doesn't mean he is.
Bloody hell. I thought you were cleverer than that.
So that's worse. You bag someone because you wrongly assume they're fit but use the same issues as an excuse on someone else for their poor output.
Not good Dooks. You're not convincing me at all that you are correct in your approach here.
You are assuming for some reason im here to convince you. You can hold your opinion for all i care.
As Chuck inferred, my opinion is also that Hampson played fit last year yet still dudded it up. And that is when he copped the majority of the heat on this site. When Batch was fit he was playing well.
If you want to beleive thats some sort of double standard which prejudices Hampson but not Batch, or have your own opinion of who played well and when, then by all means believe away.
I'm not assuming anything. When people discuss things they usually do so to let the other person understand why they believe what they do. Your opinion that Hampson played fit is incorrect. I'm not sure you want to believe that but it is what it is. You can go on believing you know otherwise but I'm telling you you are wrong. Plain and simple. Of course you can go on saying you believe this because it suits your argument and there's not much I can do to alter that. I don't really care to be honest too.
No he isn't
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Nah i dont know him.
Just supporting a guy others hope will fail. Hope thats not against site rules.
I don't think anyone wants him to fail. You are really taking things out of context. I have stated repeatedly that I hope he does well. I just don't think he will. If you can't see the difference, well, what can I say?
FWIW, I hope Hampson does well too. I doubt he will, but I wish he proves me wrong. That's where you are hypocritical. You have bagged Hampson a lot on these boards. Why don't you support him too? Wouldn't it be great if Hammer has a great season? Why cut him to ribbons? Why don't you support him as others are wishing him to fail?
Dont project your own hypocritcal and incorrect contextual standards on my posts.
I support anyone in a Richmond jumper. The difference between Batch and Hampson is at least Batch has had an excuse for playing poorly (injury). Hampson plays poor when he is fit.
And by 'others' did i mention 'you'?
LMAO.
Do you know the injuries Shaun has had to deal with over the last three years?
Ignorance is never an excuse. Just because you think he is 100% fit doesn't mean he is.
Bloody hell. I thought you were cleverer than that.
So that's worse. You bag someone because you wrongly assume they're fit but use the same issues as an excuse on someone else for their poor output.
Not good Dooks. You're not convincing me at all that you are correct in your approach here.
You are assuming for some reason im here to convince you. You can hold your opinion for all i care.
As Chuck inferred, my opinion is also that Hampson played fit last year yet still dudded it up. And that is when he copped the majority of the heat on this site. When Batch was fit he was playing well.
If you want to beleive thats some sort of double standard which prejudices Hampson but not Batch, or have your own opinion of who played well and when, then by all means believe away.
I'm not assuming anything. When people discuss things they usually do so to let the other person understand why they believe what they do. Your opinion that Hampson played fit is incorrect. I'm not sure you want to believe that but it is what it is. You can go on believing you know otherwise but I'm telling you you are wrong. Plain and simple. Of course you can go on saying you believe this because it suits your argument and there's not much I can do to alter that. I don't really care to be honest too.
No he isn't
Yes he is. I'll leave it at that because I can't say anymore.
And unless you are his treating doctor, you don't know either.
And we know you are not that.
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No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation.
But then...
I know he is the Dookster's love child, but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
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Lol.
The fishing going on with the Batch thing is gold.
I realise they are baiting but I thought this is a clear breach of forum rules.
What, just because a few of us have a different opinion suddenly we are baiting? Just because we disagree doesn't mean we are "breaching forum rules" (which is ironic btw...)
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Batch won the award for best performed both on and off the track during last weeks training camp. He is injury free at the moment and giving his all as he knows how important this year is for him on a personal note.
:clapping
Wouldn't expect Y&BB to acknowledge the kid whose been decimated by injury but this deserves recognition.
Well done Batch :cheers
No need to get personal bringing me into the conversation. I never said Batch doesn't try and give his all. I just think he is a very limited player who has either not been allowed or just hasn't reached any great heights. That's all.
If you think that Batch and those of his ilk will win us a premiership one day then that is your opinion. I am happy to be proven wrong. Will you be willing to come forth and say you were wrong about him? I know he is the Dookster's love child but I doubt he'll ever come on here and say it like it is if he fails again. I have the sneaky suspicion that Dookie knows him so he'll never can him.
And on the injury front, you guys are just hypocrites. There have been several others that have been decimated by injury during their time at the club but never get their excuse recognised. They are bagged mercilessly. Why is Jake different?
Those who live in glasshouses shouldn't walk around in the nude :shh
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LMAO.
You guys are clutching at straws. HRT's and my statements are miles apart.
HRT said that I wouldn't acknowledge the kid. That is BS. I have already done that if you could actually read. Just because I don't think he'll be a top player doesn't mean I haven't acknowledged that he tries very hard and you cannot criticise his endeavour.
The Dooks comments have some validity. He has been a supporter for a long time now and even recently linked a relationship to Batch through a relative (?) knowing him.
But keep on firing blanks at me guys if you think that makes you feel better. :lol
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:facepalm
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LMAO.
You guys are clutching at straws. HRT's and my statements are miles apart.
HRT said that I wouldn't acknowledge the kid. That is BS. I have already done that if you could actually read. Just because I don't think he'll be a top player doesn't mean I haven't acknowledged that he tries very hard and you cannot criticise his endeavour.
The Dooks comments have some validity. He has been a supporter for a long time now and even recently linked a relationship to Batch through a relative (?) knowing him.
But keep on firing blanks at me guys if you think that makes you feel better. :lol
I know people who know him. Not family and not that close to them. Never met him. Fwiw.
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LMAO.
You guys are clutching at straws. HRT's and my statements are miles apart.
HRT said that I wouldn't acknowledge the kid. That is BS. I have already done that if you could actually read. Just because I don't think he'll be a top player doesn't mean I haven't acknowledged that he tries very hard and you cannot criticise his endeavour.
The Dooks comments have some validity. He has been a supporter for a long time now and even recently linked a relationship to Batch through a relative (?) knowing him.
But keep on firing blanks at me guys if you think that makes you feel better. :lol
I know people who know him. Not family and not that close to them. Never met him. Fwiw.
I know someone who would call his family neighbours. Saw the kid grow up. So that connection is with me, not Dooks.
You've bagged him constantly in this thread, perhaps been a little diplomatic in the way you've done but bagged him. You clapped a poster who called him out as being basically useless which I find a little insulting....
If he struggles this year, that most likely will be it for him and no one will be more disappointed that the kid himself.
His qualities as a person make his contribution to the team much more valuable because he is selfless. Great football teams have plenty of this type of person - go and have a look through premiership sides over many years and do some research.
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LMAO.
You guys are clutching at straws. HRT's and my statements are miles apart.
HRT said that I wouldn't acknowledge the kid. That is BS. I have already done that if you could actually read. Just because I don't think he'll be a top player doesn't mean I haven't acknowledged that he tries very hard and you cannot criticise his endeavour.
The Dooks comments have some validity. He has been a supporter for a long time now and even recently linked a relationship to Batch through a relative (?) knowing him.
But keep on firing blanks at me guys if you think that makes you feel better. :lol
I know people who know him. Not family and not that close to them. Never met him. Fwiw.
I know someone who would call his family neighbours. Saw the kid grow up. So that connection is with me, not Dooks.
You've bagged him constantly in this thread, perhaps been a little diplomatic in the way you've done but bagged him. You clapped a poster who called him out as being basically useless which I find a little insulting....
If he struggles this year, that most likely will be it for him and no one will be more disappointed that the kid himself.
His qualities as a person make his contribution to the team much more valuable because he is selfless. Great football teams have plenty of this type of person - go and have a look through premiership sides over many years and do some research.
Having seen the last 4 Tiger premiership sides personally (and was around for the 5th), I think I know what type of players they have.
I don't think saying, that in my opinion, he is a bit of a plodder is "bagging" him. I have continually said he tries hard. I have said a couple of times that I hope he proves me wrong and stars this year.
FFS, if we can't even state an opinion of a player on this site without you having ago at the poster giving their opinion, what sort of site are you wanting? One that only says your opinion is correct? You even said yourself that I was diplomatic about the way I posted about Jake. Would you prefer me go all out and be derogatory and use swear words to describe him?
It's interesting that both you and Dooks have some sort of connection with Jake (Dooks distant and you closer) and this has been so obvious in the way you have attacked my opinion.
So here's an idea. Accept someone else thinks your opinion is biased and disagrees with it. Let it go without slamming that poster. Accept that many want Jake to succeed but ultimately think he won't.
As for Oleg, I think he is a wonderful young player and is as exciting a prospect we've had at the club for many years, especially as he wasn't a high pick.
Choco said again recently he is one of the best prospects he has seen in his career. We should all be celebrating the fact he is a tiger and wish him all the best and stop arguing about differing opinions.
:gotigers
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Is this conversation still going?
stuff me when does the football start?
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This thread is about Oleg. My last paragraph tried to get it back on track. Probably best not to post things not related to the thread title from now on.
:gotigers
Ps. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-30/nothing-for-granted-for-oleg
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This thread is about Oleg. My last paragraph tried to get it back on track. Probably best not to post things not related to the thread title from now on.
:gotigers
Ps. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-30/nothing-for-granted-for-oleg
Not sure why you have to be the person that "ends it" seeing as you were the central poster in its perpetuity......
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Unbelievable
I think Batch has been extremely hard done by in this thread
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This thread is about Oleg. My last paragraph tried to get it back on track. Probably best not to post things not related to the thread title from now on.
:gotigers
Ps. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-30/nothing-for-granted-for-oleg
Not sure why you have to be the person that "ends it" seeing as you were the central poster in its perpetuity......
It takes two (or more) to tango.
Someone had to stop it.
Go Oleg!
:gotigers
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This thread is about Oleg. My last paragraph tried to get it back on track. Probably best not to post things not related to the thread title from now on.
:gotigers
Ps. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-30/nothing-for-granted-for-oleg
Not sure why you have to be the person that "ends it" seeing as you were the central poster in its perpetuity......
It takes two (or more) to tango.
Someone had to stop it.
Go Oleg!
:gotigers
Arnold from Diffrent Strokes always had to have the last say.
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This thread is about Oleg. My last paragraph tried to get it back on track. Probably best not to post things not related to the thread title from now on.
:gotigers
Ps. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-30/nothing-for-granted-for-oleg
Not sure why you have to be the person that "ends it" seeing as you were the central poster in its perpetuity......
It takes two (or more) to tango.
Someone had to stop it.
Go Oleg!
:gotigers
Arnold from Diffrent Strokes always had to have the last say.
So by posting that you want to be Arnold?
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This thread is about Oleg. My last paragraph tried to get it back on track. Probably best not to post things not related to the thread title from now on.
:gotigers
Ps. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-30/nothing-for-granted-for-oleg
Not sure why you have to be the person that "ends it" seeing as you were the central poster in its perpetuity......
It takes two (or more) to tango.
Someone had to stop it.
Go Oleg!
:gotigers
Arnold from Diffrent Strokes always had to have the last say.
So by posting that you want to be Arnold?
Whadyoutalknabouty&bb?
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This thread is about Oleg. My last paragraph tried to get it back on track. Probably best not to post things not related to the thread title from now on.
:gotigers
Ps. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-30/nothing-for-granted-for-oleg
Not sure why you have to be the person that "ends it" seeing as you were the central poster in its perpetuity......
It takes two (or more) to tango.
Someone had to stop it.
Go Oleg!
:gotigers
Arnold from Diffrent Strokes always had to have the last say.
So by posting that you want to be Arnold?
Whadyoutalknabouty&bb?
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7xaCP7WDOJE/hqdefault.jpg)
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Batch is crap.
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As for Oleg, I think he is a wonderful young player and is as exciting a prospect we've had at the club for many years, especially as he wasn't a high pick.
Choco said again recently he is one of the best prospects he has seen in his career. We should all be celebrating the fact he is a tiger and wish him all the best and stop arguing about differing opinions.
:gotigers
Early days granted, but agree with this.
Everything Oleg has shown so far has been positive and gives hope. So much to like his kicking and decision making being standouts; early doors
So he was gifted some games (his words btw) big deal. Plenty of young players have been gifted games. Last time I checked when club's seasons are shot this is quite common. And we were crying out for it; he along with Short gave a glimpse of the future and it isn't all doom and gloom :thumbsup
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Batch is crap.
Please stop. Keep it on topic.
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This thread is about Oleg. My last paragraph tried to get it back on track. Probably best not to post things not related to the thread title from now on.
:gotigers
Ps. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-30/nothing-for-granted-for-oleg
Not sure why you have to be the person that "ends it" seeing as you were the central poster in its perpetuity......
It takes two (or more) to tango.
Someone had to stop it.
Go Oleg!
:gotigers
Arnold from Diffrent Strokes always had to have the last say.
So by posting that you want to be Arnold?
MAMA MIA....
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As for Oleg, I think he is a wonderful young player and is as exciting a prospect we've had at the club for many years, especially as he wasn't a high pick.
Choco said again recently he is one of the best prospects he has seen in his career. We should all be celebrating the fact he is a tiger and wish him all the best and stop arguing about differing opinions.
:gotigers
Early days granted, but agree with this.
Everything Oleg has shown so far has been positive and gives hope. So much to like his kicking and decision making being standouts; early doors
So he was gifted some games (his words btw) big deal. Plenty of young players have been gifted games. Last time I checked when club's seasons are shot this is quite common. And we were crying out for it; he along with Short gave a glimpse of the future and it isn't all doom and gloom :thumbsup
100% agree WP.
Truth be known, Rioli was gifted games too. The footy term for it is "fast tracking their development"
I personally think Markov earned every game he played after getting the initial call up.
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This thread is about Oleg. My last paragraph tried to get it back on track. Probably best not to post things not related to the thread title from now on.
:gotigers
Ps. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-30/nothing-for-granted-for-oleg
Not sure why you have to be the person that "ends it" seeing as you were the central poster in its perpetuity......
It takes two (or more) to tango.
Someone had to stop it.
Go Oleg!
:gotigers
Arnold from Diffrent Strokes always had to have the last say.
So by posting that you want to be Arnold?
MAMA MIA....
Abba fan? Well done MOL! :clapping
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100% agree WP.
Truth be known, Rioli was gifted games too. The footy term for it is "fast tracking their development"
I personally think Markov earned every game he played after getting the initial call up.
Yep agree on Rioli too.
I will put my hand up and say I didn't think he of should played rd 1 in 2016 because he hadn't earned it. In hindsight, glad the gifted him his start because he showed plenty.
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100% agree WP.
Truth be known, Rioli was gifted games too. The footy term for it is "fast tracking their development"
I personally think Markov earned every game he played after getting the initial call up.
Yep agree on Rioli too.
I will put my hand up and say I didn't think he of should played rd 1 in 2016 because he hadn't earned it. In hindsight, glad the gifted him his start because he showed plenty.
He is obviously a hard worker too. His body transformation over the off season has been amazing. Dan has a work ethic more like Maurice than uncle Dean and Uncle Cyril
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So how has me boy Oleg gone ffs i hope he has put some bulk on.
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So how has me boy Oleg gone ffs i hope he has put some bulk on.
From the photos I've seen, his upper body looks slightly bigger but his legs are still pins. He looks more defined overall though.
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Oleg on the Marngrook Show last night:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2017-06-02/markov-on-marngrook
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Was super impressive last night
Spoke and presented well
Good attitude
Lot to like
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Was super impressive last night
Spoke and presented well
Good attitude
Lot to like
Agreed, love this kid. Will replace Houli in years to come.
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<----Fan of the man but wish he would ditch the pedstache
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<----Fan of the man but wish he would ditch the pedstache
Freddy Mercury like. His upper lip hirsuteness is no issue for mine.
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Was super impressive last night
Spoke and presented well
Good attitude
Lot to like
Although he may present well
Needs to improve in many areas on the football field to secure a permanent spot .
McIntosh, Houli, .B.Ellis ,Short ,Vlaustin all ahead of him
Think he and C.Ellis are at similar stages of there career
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Hes way ahead of Cellis
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Cellis is a big old bust isn't he?
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Hes way ahead of Cellis
Without a doubt.
He was a shinning light last year off a HBF, then Dimma decided to play him forward.
Master stroke :lol
The kid is as hard as a cat's head, is a genuine backman and best of all is quick, doesn't panick and kicks it well.
Pretty much the opposite to to our current HBF'ers, Houli and BEllis..... go figure!
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He and Menadue should be played together on the wings. Great speed and run from both sides of the ground.
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He and Menadue should be played together on the wings. Great speed and run from both sides of the ground.
No
Rather have Grigg , Edwards and McIntosh rotating through the wings with Menadue
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He and Menadue should be played together on the wings. Great speed and run from both sides of the ground.
No
Rather have Grigg , Edwards and McIntosh rotating through the wings with Menadue
I'm talking about the future. Grigg is how old?
McIntosh is better down back. A bigger body with a bit of height. Grigg plays high half forward better. Edwards, well, he is better as a rotation mid and forward pocket.
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I think it's been long established that Jack prefers proven hacks over promising kids....
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Needs to improve in many areas on the football field to secure a permanent spot .
McIntosh, Houli, .B.Ellis ,Short ,Vlaustin all ahead of him
Think he and C.Ellis are at similar stages of there career
It's his 2nd season - please cut the kid some slack
I would hope that players you listed were ahead of him seeing they are in the 4th (McIntosh) to 10th (Houli) seasons ::)
Hes way ahead of Cellis
Without a doubt.
He was a shinning light last year off a HBF, then Dimma decided to play him forward.
Master stroke :lol
The kid is as hard as a cat's head, is a genuine backman and best of all is quick, doesn't panick and kicks it well.
Pretty much the opposite to to our current HBF'ers, Houli and BEllis..... go figure!
:clapping
Agree, I've been a huge fan of CEllis but Mrakov is so far ahead at the moment it isn't funny
To suggest that CEllis and Mrakov are at similar stages of their careers is .... well foolish...
CEllis has stagnated
Mrakov continues to show signs whether that's at AFL & VFL level
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If you watched the games this year
Markov has struggled thus can't get a game
Also Grigg and Edwards has spent considerable time running off each wing
Also Grigg has contract for next year
You have B.Ellis ,McIntosh and Houli who play off HB
Markov got the opportunity last year when McIntosh and Houli were out injured
Will only get an opportunity this year through poor form or injuries to above
Although we went with C.Ellis when there was earlier in year
Markov played defensive forward for a period when given the chance a few weeks ago and failed
We also have Vlaustin to come back who will play half back midfield role
Think Vlaustin is better than Markov
Suffice to say Oleg isn't in our best 22 at this stage
Will he be ?
Drummond has a lot more upside when 100% fit
C.Ellis ?
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Sorry WP
C.Ellis has been battling groin issues thus isn't fully fit
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Sorry WP
C.Ellis has been battling groin issues thus isn't fully fit
I am more than aware of his injury issues Jack
But to suggest CEllis & Mrakov are at similar staged of their careers is foolish
Very different stages
And I have no doubt both with more development will easily be best 22
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Well currently they aren't in the best 22
Can't play everyone
As I said , unless there is an injury to Houli , Brandon or Kamdyn , they won't get a game
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Will also say I think Jack Graham will go past both in 2018
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McIntosh is better down back.
Going to disagree there. Not a fan of McIntosh down back, gets beaten too often, can't tackle and goes missing. On the other hand, he seems to be the only one who can hit a decent target in the F50 as he runs down the wing. Think Markov makes a better backman than McIntosh but saying that I think Markov too could play on the wing
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CEllis has stagnated
Stagnated is right, hasn't gotten any better than when he was first drafted
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McIntosh is better down back.
Going to disagree there. Not a fan of McIntosh down back, gets beaten too often, can't tackle and goes missing. On the other hand, he seems to be the only one who can hit a decent target in the F50 as he runs down the wing. Think Markov makes a better backman than McIntosh but saying that I think Markov too could play on the wing
I would have agreed with that last year but this year he has improved dramatically when it comes to defending especially in the air. And his tackling has improved also.
I think he has just realised he can break tackles now too which has given him heaps more confidence when he gets the footy. He doesn't panic anymore and I don't cringe now when he has the footy.
He is the perfect size player to play down back because he can play on smalls and talls now.
Really important player going forward imo along with Vlastuin.
A backline of Rance, Grimes, Vlastuin and McIntosh is pretty decent going forward.
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Agree BT, his defensive work and tackling has gone through the roof this season and I'd go as far as to say that tonight's game was his best ever game for the club. Was strong, quick and decision making was very sound. Very happy with the player he's developing into
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Look I'll wear that one. Think I said previously he has improved as a defender but if you were to go by tonight you'd have to say I was wrong with my earlier statement. Was the polar opposite of that (except there was a peeweak tackle attempt in there). Thought he was very good down back tonight although I liked his run and bounce through the ground :shh
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still young and skinny, pretty bloody fearless unlike handbrakey B Ellis
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"The future's so bright... #Lego #gotiges"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQMqKV0UQAAJD1w.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/937639673198817280
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It’s a shame this bloke has had such a terrible injury run this year as I was hoping to see more of him in the senior side. Looks the goods when I’ve seen him play in the reserves.
Tonight wasn’t any different. Really hope he replaces B.Ellis eventually as I think he doesn’t have the same timid difficiencies that Brandon has. Oleg also likes to kick the footy forwards which is completely opposite to what we consistently see Brandon do.
I doubt he will play on Thursday night but I hope we will see the swap soon enough.
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Markov interview: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2019-01-24/markovs-defensive-focus-qldcamp2019
“I always wanted to put on mass and weight, the only issue was last year when I came back from shoulder surgery, I ended up losing about seven kilos,” Markov said.
“Now I feel like I’m in the right mindset and I’ve put on enough mass to give myself a good foundation and a good base for the next year."
“(Last year) was a rollercoaster and it’s given me more of a reason to wake up every morning and feel really grateful that the body’s working really well and I’m able to go out there and have fun with all the boys and enjoy it,” he said.
“Last year I was in rehab, so camp for me was just running laps. I felt a little isolated at times, so this year to get really in amongst it, it’s been really good fun.”
In the meantime, Markov is working on enhancing his skills as a rebounding half-back.
“My defensive side needed a lot of work so that’s something I’ve taken into consideration so far in the pre-season,” he said.
“Putting on the mass has given me the confidence to defend well, get physical and use the ball offensively when I get it.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-01-24/markov-confident-after-rollercoaster-year
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Thoughts on Markov's game yesterday? Will he play round 1?
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Apart from that pathetic effort on the boundary line which led to gartlett's goal and not disposing of the ball before he was obviously going to be run down by hunt, thought he was very good.
However bachar and short were better so the spots are theirs to lose. Not sure where he fits in elsewhere unless you take out broad for more run but think this is where balta will play once lynch comes into the forward line.
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Think there are a few ahead of him at that moment, but thought he was OK yesterday. Took the game on and made some mistakes, but that is what preseason games are all about.
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Had a few howlers but outside of that was really solid. Like the idea that he will actually defend a player unlike some others who get games.
Good to see him continue to take the game on after the Hunt run down and good to see him take the game on by foot has to be in front of short step and a few others.
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Defensively woeful, soft & dumb - won't make it. :shh
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Apart from that pathetic effort on the boundary line which led to gartlett's goal and not disposing of the ball before he was obviously going to be run down by hunt, thought he was very good.
However bachar and short were better so the spots are theirs to lose. Not sure where he fits in elsewhere unless you take out broad for more run but think this is where balta will play once lynch comes into the forward line.
Remember Deledio getting run down early in his career.
Don't mind Markov taking them on. As long as he learns to pick the right opponents.
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out for 6-8 weeks with a knee
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-04-15/markov-injury-update
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Bad news for the young man. Looked like he played the game out with the kneee strapped and looked hampered by it most of the game. Speedy recovery OM
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Had surgery today
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poor bastard
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Tiger Oleg Markov is the fastest player in the AFL
In data released on Thursday, the AFL Live Official App's Telstra Tracker showed Richmond's Oleg Markov is the AFL's speed king.
Markov has only played two games for the Tigers this season but has left an impression as the fastest player in the AFL.
The quick half-back hit the highest speed recorded by a player this season when he ran 37.4km/h against Collingwood in round two.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-13/telstra-tracker-reveals-the-afls-running-machine-shock-speed-king
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AFL footballer re-creates Ronaldo's famous 2002 haircut
Richmond player Oleg Markov has opted to shave his head in tribute to the great Ronaldo and his famous 2002 World Cup haircut.
(https://videocdn-sbs.akamaized.net/u/video/SBS/managed/images/2020/04/05/1720527939719_04050204_image143755_large.jpg)
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/1720527939719/afl-footballer-re-creates-ronaldo-s-famous-2002-haircut?playlist=twg-recommends
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Oleg is 24 today :birthday.
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Isn’t it a shame that some guys just can’t make the transition. The fringe players that don’t have the stones for the big league.
Connor Menadue prolific at vfl level, The other Ellis couldn't even get a game at the Gold Coast last season and Miles is out now with better youngsters coming through
Naish looks the same type. Too good for vfl but just not good enough for the AFL and can’t make the transition. Where as a player like Baker hasn’t looked back. We took a chance with Townsend and he became a premiership player.
Markov looks to me to be the type to take a look at in seniors but for some reason can’t get a game and the match committee have opted for Eggs instead. Is it injuries or is he just the same as the rest of them? Not good enough for the big leagues.
Then there’s Aarts, Stack, Higgins, Pickett.
We have no idea yet but Dow, RCD, Fraser, English, Miller etc.
I’d personally like to see a few games from Markov if not at half back maybe as a swap for the out of form Rioli.
Let’s see what he’s got. If he’s no good why keep him?
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Papers stamped sadly.
He's been tried in defence in past years with no success which is why Eggy has gone pass him. Up forward he is only a mark and kick type for his size which doesn't have a place in our AFL side.
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I play him ahead of Naish but that's about it...will be gone at season's end... :shh
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Isn’t it a shame that some guys just can’t make the transition. The fringe players that don’t have the stones for the big league.
Connor Menadue prolific at vfl level, The other Ellis couldn't even get a game at the Gold Coast last season and Miles is out now with better youngsters coming through
Naish looks the same type. Too good for vfl but just not good enough for the AFL and can’t make the transition. Where as a player like Baker hasn’t looked back. We took a chance with Townsend and he became a premiership player.
Markov looks to me to be the type to take a look at in seniors but for some reason can’t get a game and the match committee have opted for Eggs instead. Is it injuries or is he just the same as the rest of them? Not good enough for the big leagues.
Then there’s Aarts, Stack, Higgins, Pickett.
We have no idea yet but Dow, RCD, Fraser, English, Miller etc.
I’d personally like to see a few games from Markov if not at half back maybe as a swap for the out of form Rioli.
Let’s see what he’s got. If he’s no good why keep him?
Miles is out with a medium term injury.
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Isn’t it a shame that some guys just can’t make the transition. The fringe players that don’t have the stones for the big league.
Connor Menadue prolific at vfl level, The other Ellis couldn't even get a game at the Gold Coast last season and Miles is out now with better youngsters coming through
Naish looks the same type. Too good for vfl but just not good enough for the AFL and can’t make the transition. Where as a player like Baker hasn’t looked back. We took a chance with Townsend and he became a premiership player.
Markov looks to me to be the type to take a look at in seniors but for some reason can’t get a game and the match committee have opted for Eggs instead. Is it injuries or is he just the same as the rest of them? Not good enough for the big leagues.
Then there’s Aarts, Stack, Higgins, Pickett.
We have no idea yet but Dow, RCD, Fraser, English, Miller etc.
I’d personally like to see a few games from Markov if not at half back maybe as a swap for the out of form Rioli.
Let’s see what he’s got. If he’s no good why keep him?
Miles is out with a medium term injury.
I didn’t know that. Thanks yandb. :cheers
You reckon he’d get a game now if he was fit? The GC are unearthing some good young players now.
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Last chance saloon for Oleg. Would need to do a Townsend 2017.
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Solid game from Markov. Slotted into his role nicely :thumbsup
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Straight swap for Rory Laird.... :shh
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No issues here :thumbsup
Compared to Naish ::)
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Yup holds his spot
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No issues here :thumbsup
Compared to Naish ::)
#highbar
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Was solid I thought
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Was solid I thought
Yep pleasantly surprised
Just played his role
As I posted in the match day thread
Well done young man
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We're did he line up most game guys.My worry with him was his not composed with ball in hand.
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It looked to me like he was rotating between back pocket and hbf... :shh
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Solid. Will be haunted by that dropped mark I'm sure.
Great rundown tackle and htb though.
Happy to give him more time for now.
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saw nothing to fill me with excitement. That may change but 11 possys and a few tackles is nothing to rave home about
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It was game you'd be impressed by if it was one of his first half-dozen games in his first or second year...in his eighteenth game in his fourth year...not so much.... :shh
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It was game you'd be impressed by if it was one of his first half-dozen games in his first or second year...in his eighteenth game in his fourth year...not so much.... :shh
yep. I get he hasnt had a good run at it but in the VFL if he was that good he would have been tearing the house down in the last 2/3 years which he hasnt
Maybe il be wrong about him, but im not convinced at this stage.
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Just remember it’s been a pretty hard side to get into the last 3 years....
And he has had some injuries that haven’t helped.
He is one of those players that is pretty good at every but no real weapon at AFL level.
Short- good rebounder and a magnificent foot
Baker- great reader of the game, hard at it and decent skills
Houli- hard runner, and decent foot, and Dimma’s favourite.
George- great tackler and pressure player, awesome overhead for his size, and electric speed
Higgins- smart, and a good reader of the play. (Nothing super about him either but gets time because he was an early draft pick)
Rioli- great tackler and pressure player- horribly out of form
And I just don’t think Markov is a winger to be able to take one of those spots...
Lucky for him we need about 30 players this year, so you just never know- he might be in the right place at the right time??
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Not sure anyone could bag his performance last night :shh
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Just remember it’s been a pretty hard side to get into the last 3 years....
And he has had some injuries that haven’t helped.
He is one of those players that is pretty good at every but no real weapon at AFL level.
Short- good rebounder and a magnificent foot
Baker- great reader of the game, hard at it and decent skills
Houli- hard runner, and decent foot, and Dimma’s favourite.
George- great tackler and pressure player, awesome overhead for his size, and electric speed
Higgins- smart, and a good reader of the play. (Nothing super about him either but gets time because he was an early draft pick)
Rioli- great tackler and pressure player- horribly out of form
And I just don’t think Markov is a winger to be able to take one of those spots...
Lucky for him we need about 30 players this year, so you just never know- he might be in the right place at the right time??
Not even the fact that he is the fastest player in the AFL?
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I want to see more of Markov. I think he might make it given some confidence.
I guess there’s no better opportunity then the present.
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Again, a solid game from Markov. Used his pace exceptionally well tonight and made the right decisions with ball in hand. Making it hard for match committee to drop him with these performances. Hope he plays out the year and is resigned.
I'll continue to back him in and will be interested with what others have to say about his game.
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Again, a solid game from Markov. Used his pace exceptionally well tonight and made the right decisions with ball in hand. Making it hard for match committee to drop him with these performances. Hope he plays out the year and is resigned.
I'll continue to back him in and will be interested with what others have to say about his game.
Impressive again. With Houli back this week he would be the obvious one to come out. Looks well suited to play wing, quick, accurate kick, long kick, big body, can take a strong mark and can run all day. I hope he plays there next week.
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Though he was in top 5 tonight. Very impressive
Didn't think he should have been dropped in the first place
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ive seen nothing to suggest he should play, BUT when others are worse i guess he stays.
few long kicks big deal. Not enough IMO
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Good to see him finally back his pace a couple of times... though I'm with you FJ.. ..still, there's a couple I'd drop before him... :shh
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Liked his energy
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Keeps DES out that's for sure.
Good vision out there. A few times avoided the big bombs which clearly weren't working and managed to find a shorter/better target.
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Stays in alot worse then him.
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I thought he was very good last night- one of his best games I can remember.
Cannot be dropped on that effort.
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Another good performance from Markov tonight. Was defensively sound whilst providing a good amount of run. Looks to be the perfect wingman alongside McIntosh should he move from defence.
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Another good performance from Markov tonight. Was defensively sound whilst providing a good amount of run. Looks to be the perfect wingman alongside McIntosh should he move from defence.
That great run he had where he took a shot from outside 50 rather than drawing the man and hand balling to one of 2 free teammates to run into an open goal realllllllly annoyed me. Other than that was solid.
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I liked his run and carry. I like his speed and 430 metres gained.
He effectively had one good quarter which was the second.
44% efficiency wasn’t good at all.
And only 1 tackle.
I’d like to see him own a wing but for some reason they won’t give him a permanent wing.
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I liked his run and carry. I like his speed and 430 metres gained.
He effectively had one good quarter which was the second.
44% efficiency wasn’t good at all.
And only 1 tackle.
I’d like to see him own a wing but for some reason they won’t give him a permanent wing.
Agree with this
But the other thing I really liked and the end result was still a goal to Tippa was his chase of Tippa
He never gave up and that is just great to see. Easy option was to give up, he didn't
Sometimes those efforts are just as important as the run down of a player
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I liked his run and carry. I like his speed and 430 metres gained.
He effectively had one good quarter which was the second.
44% efficiency wasn’t good at all.
And only 1 tackle.
I’d like to see him own a wing but for some reason they won’t give him a permanent wing.
Agree with this
But the other thing I really liked and the end result was still a goal to Tippa was his chase of Tippa
He never gave up and that is just great to see. Easy option was to give up, he didn't
Sometimes those efforts are just as important as the run down of a player
Used his s[peed well in that chase- unfortunately Tippa was just too good to get away...
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Doing his job and holding on to a position in our 22 plays everywhere.
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Thought he was good again growing and believe with every game.
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Oleg delisted by the Suns.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/860867/suns-cut-athletic-ex-tiger-after-two-seasons
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Thought he was doing OK there personally
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Invited to train with the pies for SSP spot.
https://mobile.twitter.com/joshgabelich/status/1612962035222056962?s=46&t=dsLGkP-KM9AuyYOG5HvaeA
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Oleg Markov is set to replace Zac Williams at the Blues as a supplementary selection...
https://twitter.com/RSNBreakfast/status/1622320213642612738
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Good luck Oleg. Funny if he played round one.
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Reckon Blues are 2-3 injuries off an implosion
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CARLTON will give ex-Richmond speedster Oleg Markov the next six days to trial for a spot on its list ahead of the 2023 season.
It's understood Markov underwent a medical with Carlton earlier this week and has been granted approval to begin training with the Blues on Thursday morning.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/874479/ex-tiger-to-train-with-blues-vfl-defender-in-the-mix
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Markov is off to Collingwood.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/874703/pies-beat-blues-to-sign-ex-sun-luckless-defender-hurt-again
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Good for him.
Reckon he's probably as good or better than some of our listed blokes.
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Good for him.
Reckon he's probably as good or better than some of our listed blokes.
In what way turning the ball over.
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Claw et al
Watching Markov he is doing ok.
One we didn’t give an opportunity to ?
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He played for us during our dynasty years. Who would he have come in for from that elite defence? Rance, Astbury, Grimes, Broad, Vlas, Balta, Bachar, Short, Baker?
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Claw et al
Watching Markov he is doing ok.
One we didn’t give an opportunity to ?
He didn't do well at GC, his first stop after the Tigers
Think Oleg's case it has a lot to do with his current coach
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He’s loving playing with Fly again
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May be a premiership player.
Can't believe he gets the nod over Noble. Must be showing some toughness finally.
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Imagine keeping Ralphsmith and letting Markov go. Just another Fartley stuff up
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing - fact is when you’re a successful team , others will be sniffing around your fringe players .
He was always better than VFL standard and couldn’t get a game .
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Imagine keeping Ralphsmith and letting Markov go. Just another Fartley stuff up
Mo v mullet, tricky one
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May be a premiership player.
Can't believe he gets the nod over Noble. Must be showing some toughness finally.
Happened to Mitch Morton too lol
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Congrats to Oleg I'm glad it came good for him. Fly obviously was a supporter.
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Well done to him.
Didn't look out of place at all on the big stage.
Gets his usual dozen or so touches with the occasional great thing here and there.
Speed is still absolutely elite.
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Oleg Markov is a good ordinary player. He seems to always point in the air before he kicks.
He's probably pinching himself for being in this Collingwood team
Wait and see, he will play for a 4th club, mark my words
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Well done Robotnik
Enjoy your medal
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Good on him, shoved it up Richmond and gold coast. We had many more worse players than him on our list yet gave him away. He has pace , a lot of pace and never stops having a go. More than many on our list !!!
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Good on him, shoved it up Richmond and gold coast. We had many more worse players than him on our list yet gave him away. He has pace , a lot of pace and never stops having a go. More than many on our list !!!
Towner, Nank, Caddy, Grigg were all unwanted as well.
I’m as happy for him now as I was when we let him go. He’d had his chance at Tigerland.
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Good on him but just barely in their best 22
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Good on him but just barely in their best 22
Would be in our best 15
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Good on him, shoved it up Richmond and gold coast. We had many more worse players than him on our list yet gave him away. He has pace , a lot of pace and never stops having a go. More than many on our list !!!
Towner, Nank, Caddy, Grigg were all unwanted as well.
I’m as happy for him now as I was when we let him go. He’d had his chance at Tigerland.
Bank Caddy Grigg Houli all wanted to leave , they were still wanted .
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Good on him, shoved it up Richmond and gold coast. We had many more worse players than him on our list yet gave him away. He has pace , a lot of pace and never stops having a go. More than many on our list !!!
Towner, Nank, Caddy, Grigg were all unwanted as well.
I’m as happy for him now as I was when we let him go. He’d had his chance at Tigerland.
Bank Caddy Grigg Houli all wanted to leave , they were still wanted .
Yep this is correct