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Title: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 25, 2011, 08:35:10 AM
Two Dead Set Champions! Both kicked bags of goals. Disco a premiership player in 1980 a 200 game player - one of our all time leading goalkickers and best forwards, Richo just shy of 300 games, kicked bags, Richmond supporters loved him during the bad times. So its Disco vs Richo, Roach vs Richardson -Who would you pick?
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Damo on May 25, 2011, 10:14:59 AM
It's not close

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPvgj8rVQUA
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 25, 2011, 10:16:43 AM
You either didnt see Roach play or your taking the pee. Roach was a champion footballer.
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Ox on May 25, 2011, 10:17:18 AM
Roach was 100 times better forward.
Please.
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Penelope on May 25, 2011, 02:07:01 PM
If you want a roller coaster ride of excitement and frustration the richo is the man.

Roach was a better footballer by a mile, but richo was the better athlete.
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Mr Magic on May 26, 2011, 11:13:41 PM
Roach was 100 times better forward.
Please.

True. Richo should have been a midfielder.

Ironic that Disco started on the wing and became a great full forward and Richo ended up on a wing and played his best football there.
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Rodgerramjet on May 27, 2011, 05:35:17 AM
Richo should have learnt to kick under pressure, would have been a stuff and would have kicked 1200 goals.
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 27, 2011, 07:01:28 AM
I'd take both  ;D

Roach at FF

And Richo on the Wing

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: smasha on May 27, 2011, 07:10:19 AM
Just about every Tiger supporter had 8 on their backs back then.

Or the number 20. ;D

Different eras.

Roachy was awesome at the classical FF stuff.
Strong hands.

Richo was more mobile.

Yeah ,both of them would be handy in the same team.

Roachy had better players around him that's for sure.
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on May 27, 2011, 07:25:56 AM
Roachy was the first of my footballing heroes! Roach was lucky to play in good teams, Richo was not! One may argue that each player may have influenced that but, i'll go Richo just in front cos he played during a messy time for the club!
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 28, 2011, 08:53:40 AM
ppl forget how good roach was

and ppl forget that he never missed
best kick for goal we have ever seen and a long kick to and could play ruck also

champion player champion bloke champion team man

richo is richo and flawed champion, and athlete playing footy
roach was a footballer

roach when it comes to the crunch was a better footballer,
i would have roach at ff
and richo where he belonged and played in the beginning at hff as a floating fwd running up the wings
richo should have played like this all his career, only john northey knew how to play him
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: bojangles17 on May 28, 2011, 11:04:52 AM
roach was a coleman medalist and premiership player...Richo was in tiger team of century, decorated as one of the games truly great players. CLOSE the thread Game OVER
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 28, 2011, 11:49:59 AM
I get sick of the whole athlete comment, he had about the best hands I've ever seen. He was more a dufus on the field but an all time great player as a forward pushing up into the mid field.
Roachy was an straight up out and out stuff ff. But for injuries and a crap midfield in his later years - he would've joined Dunstall and Plugger as a 1000 goal player
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: mightytiges on May 28, 2011, 12:35:53 PM
The funny thing is Disco came to the club as a wingman and ended as a forward while Richo arrived as a forward and finished off as a wingman. Disco was the better forward close to goal and leading out because he was a reliable kick while Richo had the tank to play higher across half-forward and on the wing. Two completely different footballers. A better comparison for debate in say 5 years time will be who was the better full forward - Roach or Jack?
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Ox on May 28, 2011, 12:52:15 PM
The funny thing is Disco came to the club as a wingman and ended as a forward while Richo arrived as a forward and finished off as a wingman. Disco was the better forward close to goal and leading out because he was a reliable kick while Richo had the tank to play higher across half-forward and on the wing. Two completely different footballers. A better comparison for debate in say 5 years time will be who was the better full forward - Roach or Jack?

Agrre MT.

Answer is Jack.
Thinks like Ablett senior,can create from nothing(Roach needed delivery) and contrary to what i read,he's stuffing strong !!

What a cock sucker i was when i said he didn't have what it took. ::)
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: FNM on May 28, 2011, 01:05:20 PM
Richo
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Ox on May 28, 2011, 01:12:45 PM
The 3 of them are absolute stars.
We should be proud of our past and more importantly,now our future!
Cheers.
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: FNM on May 28, 2011, 01:16:14 PM
Roachy was a star, a better kick than Richo
But Richo has been Richmond for me whole last 15 years, whereas Roachy had so many good players around him to share the load
And the fact that swayed it for me was Roachy only ever laid 9 tackles in his career.
When you can't split them, you go to the stats lol
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Ox on May 28, 2011, 01:25:17 PM
                    9 tackles for a ff in the 80s is massive- :lol
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: FNM on May 28, 2011, 01:50:09 PM
                    9 tackles for a ff in the 80s is massive- :lol
You're probably right
Just looking at, say, 1980, and taking a couple of examples from top goal kickers

Moncrief - 1 tackle
Roach - 0
KB (lol) - 0
Templeton - 0

It's either they didn't tackle or there are no reliable stats from back then

I still go with Richo because if Roach could kick, mark, comb his hair better than Richo, then Richo did remarkably well with the little God gave him!
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 28, 2011, 03:06:29 PM
The funny thing is Disco came to the club as a wingman and ended as a forward while Richo arrived as a forward and finished off as a wingman. Disco was the better forward close to goal and leading out because he was a reliable kick while Richo had the tank to play higher across half-forward and on the wing. Two completely different footballers. A better comparison for debate in say 5 years time will be who was the better full forward - Roach or Jack?

Agrre MT.

Answer is Jack.
Thinks like Ablett senior,can create from nothing(Roach needed delivery) and contrary to what i read,he's effing strong !!

What a cock sucker i was when i said he didn't have what it took. ::)

lol
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: Infamy on May 28, 2011, 04:01:02 PM
                    9 tackles for a ff in the 80s is massive- :lol
You're probably right
Just looking at, say, 1980, and taking a couple of examples from top goal kickers

Moncrief - 1 tackle
Roach - 0
KB (lol) - 0
Templeton - 0

It's either they didn't tackle or there are no reliable stats from back then

I still go with Richo because if Roach could kick, mark, comb his hair better than Richo, then Richo did remarkably well with the little God gave him!

I think you may find the tackle stats weren't tracked back then
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: The Big Richo on May 28, 2011, 08:29:05 PM
Roach couldn't shine my shoes.
Title: Re: Roach vs Richardson - How Do You See It?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 28, 2011, 10:46:16 PM
Roach couldn't shine my shoes.

You didnt have any shoes when you were kicking 1 goal 8 and 3 out on the full  ;D