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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ox on July 04, 2011, 01:51:52 PM
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Contrary to popular belief, Nathan Foley is the turnover king.
Not only that but he manages to do so at a 100% damage rate.
Yes, he runs and goes the in and under but I'm sick and tired of a guy with so much ball getting ability killing us with his disposal.
Be needs to be shopped as he could be a better player on a more balanced list.
IMO he's no longer a part of our future and is more valuable in terms of what we can get for him.
He has value and would be a great acquisition for a top 4 team.
Thoughts?
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Contrary to popular belief, Nathan Foley is the turnover king.
Not only that but he manages to do so at a 100% damage rate.
Yes, he runs and goes the in and under but I'm sick and tired of a guy with so much ball getting ability killing us with his disposal.
Be needs to be shopped as he could be a better player on a more balanced list.
IMO he's no longer a part of our future and is more valuable in terms of what we can get for him.
He has value and would be a great acquisition for a top 4 team.
Thoughts?
Jury is still out for mine, He is only a dozen game's back from nearly two years on the sidelines. He is still miles down on pace witch was his major strength if he can find that again he will still be an asset to the side but without it I would have to say I agree. I'm not sure what his trade currency would be worth but as you said a top 4 side could be tempted to pay over the odd's who knows?
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I think your points are valid Ox
Personally I'd certainly look at it
But I can't see the Club even contemplating it let alone doing it
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I don't reckon you can trade Foley and Jackson and I would prefer to trade Jackson at this point.
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I know dimmer-) loves him, WP.
It's still doesn't justify his worth onfield vs his worth at trade time.
For as long as I can remember he's let us down time and time again with his crappy dishing off of the ball to a team met under the pump or alternatively ,straight to an opposition player.
It's part of his DNA and I'm over it.
Jacksons trade value would be far less appealing.
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He'd b great at colonwod
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Would certainly rather trade him for a ruckman than our first round pick...
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I love Foley, I don't see it when people say his disposal is poor. Might not have the most penetrating kick but more often then not weights his kicks well and is clean with his disposal. His pace is very good and his outside game is as good as ever. My problem is his inside game. At his best he was a beast in the clearances, the fact that we are one of the poorest teams in the comp in this area rests on his shoulders more then anyone else. Cotchin is still a baby and is shouldering the load, not one other player is pulling his weight in this area.
I would be looking at trading him for a ruckman such as H.McIntosh. Pains me to say it but you have to trade quality to attract quality. Everyone saying Edwards or McGuane plus a draft pick are crazy. Clubs aren't stupid. If we can bring a ruckman in then we can use an early pick on another midfielder. Our backs in my opinion are still babies and Rance and Grimes along with Astbury give me faith.
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Would get nothing for him and that's even if another club is interested.
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Would get nothing for him and that's even if another club is interested.
What a load of crap! A former All Australian who's form isn't that bad ATM, another full pre season under his belt and he would slip straight into the midfield of any club. He has currency it just depends on who we want in return......
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I love Foley, I don't see it when people say his disposal is poor.
if you can bear to watch it - example 1st qtr just outside 50m handballed straight to a Carlton player
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I love Foley, I don't see it when people say his disposal is poor.
if you can bear to watch it - example 1st qtr just outside 50m handballed straight to a Carlton player
Cannot bear to watch it. To highlight one incident is a little unfair on him. Overall I normally rest easy when its Foley with the ball in his hands. More so then I do with Martin or some other players who are "great users" of the pill. Jackson on the other hand :banghead
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foley has to work so hard to negate his turnovers.
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I love Foley, I don't see it when people say his disposal is poor.
if you can bear to watch it - example 1st qtr just outside 50m handballed straight to a Carlton player
Cannot bear to watch it. To highlight one incident is a little unfair on him. Overall I normally rest easy when its Foley with the ball in his hands. More so then I do with Martin or some other players who are "great users" of the pill. Jackson on the other hand :banghead
there are more but I picked that one because it is relatviely early in the game, first 15 minutes, so if you were game to watch you only have to sit through 15 minutes, I am not completely heartless ;D
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trade him to GWS for an u17 pick - sheedy loves foley.
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It's equally about Nathans value,trade-wise,as it is his turnover skills.
He's our best chance at securing anything decent...
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He had an absolute shocker against Carlton Was bitterly disappointed with his game
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It's equally about Nathans value,trade-wise,as it is his turnover skills.
He's our best chance at securing anything decent...
Agree with this Ox
I reckon players on our list with real value are few and far between.
To be aggressive in trade week you have to be prepared to give up something of value if you want say a first round pick or a hamish McIntosh
It comes down to who are the "untouchables" and who are your prepared to part with if the price is right
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Move him on..the time has come.......i'm sick of the club showing invested faith in pseudo champions (Cogs,Foley,Bowden etc)ainst
It will be hard watching Axl tear us a new hole when he plays against us but provided we
receive a quality player,this pain will pass.
Dont forget,he didn't play for ages and even when he came back,has made no difference to our win loss ratio.
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I think Foley's a great player, but I would trade him for HMac if his injuries are sorted out.
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I don't think we have enough good players to trade the few good ones that we have.
This however, is an exception if we get a ruck man.
Good idea but our distorted view of the list will make him untouchable
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During the trade period last year many on here were happy on the scenario to trade Foley to Geelong.
I think we can move on without him. Thought so last year and think so this year. Would love another early draft pick for him. If we find a willing suitor grab a late first rounder and run. Could be a three way deal with him to get that first round pick.
I believe if we are to improve as a club and as a midfield Jackson needs to be traded also.
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Contrary to popular belief, Nathan Foley is the turnover king.
Not only that but he manages to do so at a 100% damage rate.
Yes, he runs and goes the in and under but I'm sick and tired of a guy with so much ball getting ability killing us with his disposal.
Be needs to be shopped as he could be a better player on a more balanced list.
IMO he's no longer a part of our future and is more valuable in terms of what we can get for him.
He has value and would be a great acquisition for a top 4 team.
Thoughts?
been sating this for 5 yrs now, but we missed the boast, we should have traded him when he repsresented vic, he had currency them, now no one will touch him
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been sating this for 5 yrs now, but we missed the boast, we should have traded him when he repsresented vic, he had currency them, now no one will touch him
There is a lesson in that, blokes who lack natural talent and size that have to work their guts out to get a crack only burn brightly for a short time and it only takes one injury or getting older and they are gone.
We would do well to remember that it pays to make hard calls on those blokes early, as we should have with Jackson 1 or 2 seasons ago and as we should this year with another bloke from the same category.
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I agree with most on here- this club needs a f@#king wake up call!!!
And so do the playing group. Fair enough we are not the most skillful side in the league, but the effort that was shown on Saturday was just unacceptable! You don't need skill to run and chase, or to bump and tackle. Keep turning these bozos over until we find blokes that will at least have a go. Time this club made some hard calls on everybody at the club!
Starting with the recruiter.
As i have said on other threads, other than our first round draft picks,(which aint that hard) he has done nothing in his time art the club.