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Title: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: one-eyed on August 27, 2012, 10:41:47 PM
Only 25k expected on Sunday for the final game of the season ...


AFL Round 23
Richmond v Port Adelaide

Date:                     Sunday September 2
Start time:              3.15pm

Gate opening:
Public/AFL members:    1.00pm
MCC members:             12.30pm

Tickets:
Public reserved seats on sale through Ticketek here.
MCC visitor tickets and reserved seats are on sale through Ticketek here.

General admission seating areas:

Great Southern Stand
M1-M10
P1-P8
Q1-Q15

Olympic Stand
Q49-Q57

Ponsford Stand
M28-M36
Q29-Q36

Cheer squad allocations:
Richmond – Bay M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
Port Adelaide – Bay M33 (Rows A-S)

Car park opening:
Gate 3: 9.00am
Gate 5: 11.00am
Gate 6: 12.00pm
Gate 7: 11.00am (media, corporate and disabled pass holders only)

Expected attendance:   25,000

http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=1ce055e2-0bb9-40d2-bd3e-51f771d14cf6
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: eliminator on August 28, 2012, 06:12:32 AM
3:15pm what an incredibly stupid time to start a game on Sunday
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: 1965 on August 28, 2012, 06:16:18 AM
3:15pm what an incredibly stupid time to start a game on Sunday

all about the TV

Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Penelope on August 28, 2012, 07:37:22 AM
if only 25k turn up, which i think means a loss for the club, then people shouldnt whine when the corresponding fixture gets moved back to docklands
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 28, 2012, 08:00:37 AM
if only 25k turn up, which i think means a loss for the club, then people shouldnt whine when the corresponding fixture gets moved back to docklands

bingo
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: JVT on August 28, 2012, 08:36:01 AM
if only 25k turn up, which i think means a loss for the club, then people shouldnt whine when the corresponding fixture gets moved back to docklands

bingo
Spread the word, get as many people down as we can. Hopefully good weather and a nice turnout pushing closer to 40k.  :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 28, 2012, 10:17:25 AM
Exactly. Nice sunny day forecast, picnic by the yarra. First f/day as a dad then a nice stroll over to the G to compliment the day

this maybe a stupid question but how does the MCC make money if a good portion that come to games are paid up members.



Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Loui Tufga on August 28, 2012, 10:37:03 AM
Exactly. Nice sunny day forecast, picnic by the yarra. First f/day as a dad then a nice stroll over to the G to compliment the day

this maybe a stupid question but how does the MCC make money if a good portion that come to games are paid up members.

They only have to sell 2 hotdogs and a beer to start making a profit ;D
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Phil Mrakov on August 28, 2012, 11:50:08 AM
The Hawks will outdraw us by a bit this season.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Willy on August 28, 2012, 12:20:34 PM
If we were on top of the ladder we would make all other team's crowds look like Nought Melbun crowds.
Tiger clan aint nuttin to stuff with.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: cub on August 28, 2012, 12:30:56 PM
25? peeweak if that happens
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Phil Mrakov on August 28, 2012, 12:31:37 PM
If we were on top of the ladder we would make all other team's crowds look like Nought Melbun crowds.
Tiger clan aint nuttin to stuff with.

We'd outdraw everyone except Collingwood.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Coach on August 28, 2012, 01:17:05 PM
If we were on top of the ladder we would make all other team's crowds look like Nought Melbun crowds.
Tiger clan aint nuttin to stuff with.

Yep, we got the best bandwagon fans. People were coming out of nowhere in 2005 when it looked like we were gonna poo on people.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: mightytiges on August 28, 2012, 02:53:34 PM
if only 25k turn up, which i think means a loss for the club, then people shouldnt whine when the corresponding fixture gets moved back to docklands
And we would make a greater loss financially at Docklands as only 20k would turn up. Hopefully a bit of promotion from the Club and it being the final game for us for the next six months will get a few more to rock up. Jack going for Coleman should help as well.

This is Port's first game at the 'G this year and they only played Hawthorn there in 2010 & 2011 getting a crowd of 21k and 27k respectively and even at the Docklands this year Collingwood vs Port only drew 30k which is low for a Magpies' home game. So 25k wouldn't necessarily be a poor turn up against Port in Melbourne. The Dees struggle to get 15k lol which is why they sold the Port game to Canberra. Apart from Essendon and Collingwood, we are the only other club that has got a crowd of 30k+ against Port in Melbourne more than once. Hawthorn had 33k in April 2009 but that due to their premiership afterglow. Even when Port were up the top of the ladder they drew poor crowds in Melbourne. Why should be penalised and lose our home ground advantage because Port have become irrelevant through their own incompetence off-field. If we were going to play finals or if finals was on the line then we would easily crack 30k if not push towards 40k even in a crappy timeslot like 3.15pm on a Sunday arvo. Our home ground is the MCG and when we finally get up and about (hopefully starting next year) we'll remind the whole comp. why it is  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: one-eyed on August 28, 2012, 05:00:35 PM
Preview: Richmond v Port Adelaide
Paul Daffey and Harry Thring
Tue 28 Aug, 2012



WHERE AND WHEN: MCG, Sunday, September 2, 3.15pm
LAST TIME: Richmond 13.13 (91) d Port Adelaide 8.6 (54), round six, 2012, at the AAMI Stadium

Only two places separate these clubs on the ladder — Richmond is 12th and Port Adelaide 14th — but this is one of those instances where the ladder lies. The Tigers are on 10-11, coming off a strong win against Essendon, whereas Port is 5-16, coming off a narrow loss against the Brisbane Lions.

RICHMOND
1. Full-forward Jack Riewoldt said last week he's been disappointed with his season because of his inconsistency - and here he is with a chance to win the Coleman Medal. Of the main chances, Fremantle's Matthew Pavlich has 60 goals, Riewoldt has 59, and Geelong's Tom Hawkins has 58. Fremantle coach Ross Lyon said on Monday that he's unsure whether Pavlich, who missed his team's victory over North Melbourne on Sunday, will play against Melbourne at Patersons Stadium this weekend. The Tigers are playing a team below them, while Geelong is playing the Sydney Swans, who are second on the ladder. Riewoldt must be a strong chance of winning his second Coleman, having won his first with 78 goals in 2010.

2. Midfielder Trent Cotchin goes into this match all but assured of winning the AFL Coaches Association award, which is widely regarded as the award that best reflects player standings. After polling votes in an incredible 19 out of 21 matches, Cotchin is on 103 votes, ahead of Collingwood's Dayne Beams (93) and Gold Coast's Gary Ablett (92). Beams would have to poll the maximum 10 to even draw with the Tigers star, who's bracketed with Ablett on the first line of Brownlow Medal betting.

3. The match between these clubs that would resonate most with Richmond fans is the breakthrough match of Round 10, 2010, when the Tigers defeated the Power by 37 points at AAMI Stadium to win their first game for the season. It was Damien Hardwick's first season as coach, and he'd cut deeply into the list. The result was an opening nine rounds in which the Tigers were barely up to AFL standard. Shane Tuck had a game-high 31 disposals in the slush, ahead of Brett Deledio on 29. Riewoldt kicked four of Richmond's 10 goals.

4. If the Tigers defeat the Power, they could look back on what would be a relatively successful season despite their failure to make the finals. Richmond last year won eight games and drew another. A win against the Power would give it an even 11-11 ledger and a decent base from which to launch an assault on the finals next season. It's been well documented that the Tigers have never been far away during their losses. A few twists of luck and they could have been well up among the finalists. The optimism for next season would fade, however, if the Tigers were to lose to the Power. Somehow a 10-12 record provides less of a base from which to launch a finals assault.

PORT ADELAIDE
1. The Power have been been so close to victory on so many occasions this year, but inconsistent football has cost the club nearly every time. Last weekend's 10-point loss to the Lions was a perfect example. The match was the Power's for the taking but a lacklustre final term cost them victory. Sunday presents the club one last chance in 2012 to string together four quarters of football.

2. Facing his old side this weekend, Power forward Jay Schulz said it will be nice to play against former teammates and that he'd enjoy the banter and everything else that goes along with such a game. But he wants to win. Schulz has been a rare standout for the Power this year, making the most of nearly every opportunity he's been given, while managing to attack the ball and contest relentlessly despite some huge injury scares.

3. The Power's midfield was pretty good last weekend and has finally started to generate more inside 50s. They'll regain the services of Hamish Hartlett this week from suspension, who will significantly up the class factor in the engine room. Even still, it's hard to see the likes of Hartlett, Travis Boak, Dom Cassisi, Matthew Broadbent and Brad Ebert matching guys like Cotchin, Dustin Martin and Deledio. They will have to find a way though, because if Richmond's midfield gets on top it could be a disappointing end to a disappointing season for the Power.

4. This is likely to be interim coach Garry Hocking's last game in charge of the Power, as the club looks to appoint a permanent senior coach for 2013. Matthew Primus had five wins in his seven games as interim coach and the players would dearly like to get Hocking at least one victory. They missed a great chance last week and Sunday's game is all that remains.

AFL.com.au prediction: Richmond by 48 points

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/145968/default.aspx
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Penelope on August 28, 2012, 06:15:31 PM
if only 25k turn up, which i think means a loss for the club, then people shouldnt whine when the corresponding fixture gets moved back to docklands
And we would make a greater loss financially at Docklands as only 20k would turn up.
isnt 20k, the break even figure for docklands?
whatever it is it is substantially lower than the MCG.

Bottom line is people moan and groan about not wanting to go to docklands, but then when the club gets these games to the MCG as the supporters wish, then they should turn out in force and create a cauldron like atmosphere.


They should do that at docklands anyway, but all clubs have fair weather supporters.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Chuck17 on August 28, 2012, 08:01:17 PM
Get on board were gunna win by a 100 and jack will kick 11 goals.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 28, 2012, 09:05:08 PM
this maybe a stupid question but how does the MCC make money if a good portion that come to games are paid up members.

1/ MCG receive a fee for every member that shows up, whether that be Club or AFL members

2/ and most importantly Reserve seat sales on memberships - clubs have to pay that cost back the MCC, they don't make a cent on reserve seat attached to memberships
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 28, 2012, 09:47:30 PM
this maybe a stupid question but how does the MCC make money if a good portion that come to games are paid up members.

1/ MCG receive a fee for every member that shows up, whether that be Club or AFL members

2/ and most importantly Reserve seat sales on memberships - clubs have to pay that cost back the MCC, they don't make a cent on reserve seat attached to memberships

well there you go i never knew that. thanks for that

I was always scratching my head thinking why do they care how many get through the doors  i've already paid my dues to the club
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: one-eyed on August 30, 2012, 06:38:00 PM
Sunday will be only the 4th time since Port entered the AFL in 1997 that we've played them at the 'G. The last time we played Port at our home ground was 5 years ago and the time before that was way back in 1998  :groucho.

Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/146235/default.aspx
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Coach on August 30, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
Played them at Tio last year ;D and thought we played them at the G in 2010 as well. Must have been ethiad
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 30, 2012, 07:01:18 PM
Played them at Tio last year ;D and thought we played them at the G in 2010 as well. Must have been ethiad

Yep 2010 was Etihad, Ben Cousins last game. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: dwaino on August 30, 2012, 09:34:26 PM
September 2. September action boys  :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 30, 2012, 09:47:43 PM
September 2. September action boys  :cheers

Yes if you put it that way. :thumbsup

Not finals action though.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: gerkin greg on August 30, 2012, 11:49:05 PM
Final game  :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: one-eyed on August 31, 2012, 01:37:15 AM
No surprise we're overwhelming favourites this week...

Betting Odds (Source: tab sportsbet)

Richmond    $1.10
Port Adel.    $6.60

Line is 44.5 pts.

Journo 'expert' tips

Herald-Sun:  29 - 1
The Age:      23 - 1
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: tigs2011 on August 31, 2012, 02:08:46 AM
If we were on top of the ladder we would make all other team's crowds look like Nought Melbun crowds.
Tiger clan aint nuttin to stuff with.

Yep, we got the best bandwagon fans. People were coming out of nowhere in 2005 when it looked like we were gonna poo on people.

I stayed inside. Was a bit cold most games.  :whistle
Title: Roar Preview: Round 23 (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on August 31, 2012, 07:22:47 PM
Roar Preview Round 23 with Richo and Cambo...

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/485710/Roar%20Preview:%20round%2023/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 02, 2012, 03:34:36 PM
Have been playing like arse so far
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WA Tiger on September 02, 2012, 03:53:23 PM
Helbig injured....looks bad, ankle  :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WA Tiger on September 02, 2012, 04:02:24 PM
What the hell are we doing.... :-\
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 02, 2012, 04:21:09 PM
Pathetic... The way we play against poo teams is di :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
sgusting... Ffs
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Coach on September 02, 2012, 04:21:39 PM
Schulza
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 02, 2012, 04:24:43 PM
FTR Ump 32 Mollison is raping us. Just like the game against north.

Pepper your Angus people
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: tigs2011 on September 02, 2012, 04:25:50 PM
FTR Ump 32 Mollison is raping us. Just like the game against north.

Pepper your Angus people
U forgot about last week.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on September 02, 2012, 04:39:04 PM
Pathetic... The way we play against poo teams is di :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
sgusting... Ffs
We are playing like they're already on holidays. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on September 02, 2012, 04:43:16 PM
Wake up!!!!!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: dwaino on September 02, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
You suck, Tiges  :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WA Tiger on September 02, 2012, 04:47:06 PM
 :-\.......unreal...
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WA Tiger on September 02, 2012, 04:49:29 PM
Martin hamstring... :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WA Tiger on September 02, 2012, 04:55:33 PM
Port may not be flogging us on the scoreboard but they are killing us on the ground.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WA Tiger on September 02, 2012, 04:59:58 PM
Edwards two turnovers, one results in a goal..
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Damo on September 02, 2012, 05:03:05 PM
All the players say Newman is a great leader and respected by all.

If true, this is as disgraceful as it gets!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Muscles on September 02, 2012, 05:18:18 PM
Yeah, but ..... A win will put us ahead of the Bumblers and the Blooze.  That's two draft picks worse in every round of the draft. 

I can almost put up with the ribbing at work for a two position improvement in every draft round.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 02, 2012, 05:18:36 PM
Hardwick not engaging the flood - hes backing our skills 1 on 1 but we are tired/lazy and ports flood is working as well as kicking efficiently. They presure us and wait for the turnover then murder us on the rebound.

Pepper your angus people
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WA Tiger on September 02, 2012, 05:23:25 PM
Yeah, but ..... A win will put us ahead of the Bumblers and the Blooze.  That's two draft picks worse in every round of the draft. 

I can almost put up with the ribbing at work for a two position improvement in every draft round.

Yeah I am not to fussed now, would rather get that pick..

Further to that, we are clearly not there.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Muscles on September 02, 2012, 05:34:54 PM
Yeah, but ..... A win will put us ahead of the Bumblers and the Blooze.  That's two draft picks worse in every round of the draft. 

I can almost put up with the ribbing at work for a two position improvement in every draft round.

Yeah I am not to fussed now, would rather get that pick..

Further to that, we are clearly not there.

Did you see our setup at the last centre bounce?  Jack, Titch and Ellis.  We sure had the A team there
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WA Tiger on September 02, 2012, 05:38:25 PM
Yeah, but ..... A win will put us ahead of the Bumblers and the Blooze.  That's two draft picks worse in every round of the draft. 

I can almost put up with the ribbing at work for a two position improvement in every draft round.

Yeah I am not to fussed now, would rather get that pick..

Further to that, we are clearly not there.
Y
Did you see our setup at the last centre bounce?  Jack, Titch and Ellis.  We sure had the A team there

 :lol :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Muscles on September 02, 2012, 05:43:16 PM
Players look like they really want the win.  Coaching staff are not doing too much to assist.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Muscles on September 02, 2012, 05:49:15 PM
Back to one point.  Centre setup. Cotch, Lids , Tucky.  Dimma didnt look too fussed.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WA Tiger on September 02, 2012, 05:51:39 PM
Draw, happy with that.

But we are crap.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: dwaino on September 02, 2012, 05:51:56 PM
HAPPY ENDING GUYS EVERYONE WON  :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 02, 2012, 05:52:04 PM
Effing Lawl!! Sums up our season really!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Muscles on September 02, 2012, 05:56:32 PM
Draw, happy with that.

But we are crap.

Should have won that game easily, but the players didn't have the intensity that was required.  I wonder how the coaching staff built them up during the week. 

A win represented a significant draft loss.  A loss represented a massive psychological blow.  A draw is as good as a loss.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Chuck17 on September 02, 2012, 06:03:08 PM
You would think the boys had plenty to play for, ahh well onto the 2013 cotch show
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: camboon on September 02, 2012, 06:03:54 PM
MMM better draft pick then Essendon and Carlton
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: georgies31 on September 02, 2012, 06:04:47 PM
Lids goes missing in games bigtime for us.When were up and running looks good ,but when we need him to step up goes missing in action and leaves it to Cotchin and co etc.We played one good quarter.Lacked effort at times and teamwork and still way to many skill errors from senior players mind you.Power players had way to much space.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: 1965 on September 02, 2012, 06:06:40 PM

A result that will soon be forgotten but...

Cotch gets three more votes towards the Brownlow, Jack gets the Coleman, Newman makes way for the next generation and we get a draft pick two higher than what a win would have given us.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Coach on September 02, 2012, 06:09:40 PM

A result that will soon be forgotten but...

Cotch gets three more votes towards the Brownlow, Jack gets the Coleman, Newman makes way for the next generation and we get a draft pick two higher than what a win would have given us.

 :cheers

:thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: 1965 on September 02, 2012, 06:10:43 PM

A result that will soon be forgotten but...

Cotch gets three more votes towards the Brownlow, Jack gets the Coleman, Newman makes way for the next generation and we get a draft pick two higher than what a win would have given us.

 :cheers

:thumbsup

Stuff off

:lol

Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Coach on September 02, 2012, 06:12:01 PM

A result that will soon be forgotten but...

Cotch gets three more votes towards the Brownlow, Jack gets the Coleman, Newman makes way for the next generation and we get a draft pick two higher than what a win would have given us.

 :cheers

:thumbsup

Stuff off

:lol



:lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 02, 2012, 06:23:16 PM
Boys it's 1 pick as Dons will choose danniher with father/son.

Nonetheless we are higher than the blues so let's hope we draft someone they want and bend em over

Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: TigerLand on September 02, 2012, 06:30:59 PM
Daniel Jackdon another horrible game....
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Muscles on September 02, 2012, 06:32:48 PM
Lids goes missing in games bigtime for us.When were up and running looks good ,but when we need him to step up goes missing in action and leaves it to Cotchin and co etc.We played one good quarter.Lacked effort at times and teamwork and still way to many skill errors from senior players mind you.Power players had way to much space.

I thought Lids was seriously MIA too Georgies.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Muscles on September 02, 2012, 06:33:53 PM
Boys it's 1 pick as Dons will choose danniher with father/son.

Nonetheless we are higher than the blues so let's hope we draft someone they want and bend em over

Only in the first round, methinks Daniel.  Not in the draft rounds after that.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 02, 2012, 06:40:44 PM
10.5 wins was an improvement on last season but its a fail overall. Todays effort means Hardwick has a decent message to give over the summer months. That is that todays effort and all the other efforts that resulted in small losses is just a complete and utter FAILURE! We need better players.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Muscles on September 02, 2012, 06:48:02 PM
Really obvious today that Ivan couldn't jump.  Killed at the centre bounces.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on September 02, 2012, 07:14:21 PM
10.5 wins was an improvement on last season but its a fail overall. Todays effort means Hardwick has a decent message to give over the summer months. That is that todays effort and all the other efforts that resulted in small losses is just a complete and utter FAILURE! We need better players.
Top post flags.  :thumbsup

We know its pathetic. The coach knows we failed. The club knows they failed as do all the players.
But so many think this year has been a success.  :banghead

No excuses! We should be playing finals. Not good enough.
End of story.
Today was another pathetic effort.
Absolutely peeweak.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WA Tiger on September 02, 2012, 07:15:47 PM
10.5 wins was an improvement on last season but its a fail overall. Todays effort means Hardwick has a decent message to give over the summer months. That is that todays effort and all the other efforts that resulted in small losses is just a complete and utter FAILURE! We need better players.
Top post flags.  :thumbsup

We know its pathetic. The coach knows we failed. The club knows they failed as do all the players.
But so many think this year has been a success.  :banghead

No excuses! We should be playing finals. Not good enough.
End of story.
Today was another pathetic effort.
Absolutely peeweak.

 :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Lozza on September 02, 2012, 07:39:35 PM
Great tanking  :clapping............or were we really trying?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 02, 2012, 07:40:09 PM
Daniel Jackdon another horrible game....
Horrible? You won't like this then!
BEST
Richmond: Cotchin, Riewoldt, Houli, Tuck, Jackson, Deledio, Jackson
Port Adelaide: Brad Ebert, Schulz, Broadbent, Pearce, Boak, Cassisi, Hartlett
Souce: www.afl.com.au


Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 02, 2012, 07:43:55 PM
10.5 wins was an improvement on last season but its a fail overall. Todays effort means Hardwick has a decent message to give over the summer months. That is that todays effort and all the other efforts that resulted in small losses is just a complete and utter FAILURE! We need better players.
Top post flags.  :thumbsup

We know its pathetic. The coach knows we failed. The club knows they failed as do all the players.
But so many think this year has been a success.  :banghead

No excuses! We should be playing finals. Not good enough.
End of story.
Today was another pathetic effort.
Absolutely peeweak.
Two down due to injury early (one being Martin), some may think we battled manfully.
Oops, sorry. Sounds like an excuse (aka mitigating circumstances).
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 02, 2012, 07:56:42 PM
Can undersatand we had to intiate sub early due to helbig coming off 1/2. Quarter and dusty going off with hammy resulting in 2 rotating on bench. But jees we really lacked in intensity in most quarters and composure when it counted.

Some happy with draft picks? Only disguises their dissapointment in the game and season really

I for one wanted to see them win, if anything but to achieve a 50/50 win/loss ratio to show not only have they improved but closing gap.

What I witnessed today was a team like that of the dreamteam team that failed to get up for their skipper in his 200th then and his final game as captain today. That in itself reflects poorly on the team.

Fwiw jackson was crap today, has been OK lately but today was poor.
Post lack confindence and mongrel
And others go missing when it counts, can't blame the juniors like ohanlon just yet
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: yellowandback on September 02, 2012, 08:00:46 PM
Daniel Jackdon another horrible game....

Couldn't track an elephant in the snow with a nose bleed  :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Stripes on September 02, 2012, 08:19:24 PM
Best result we have have hoped for in retrospect -

1) Jack gets the Coleman
2) Cotch gets full votes (a loss would have typically meant votes to Ports best player)
3) We don't jump up the ladder above Essendon and Carlton.

Didn't stop me feeling disappointed at the end of the game but hey, I'm a glass half full kinda guy!  :wallywink
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on September 02, 2012, 08:24:47 PM
10.5 wins was an improvement on last season but its a fail overall. Todays effort means Hardwick has a decent message to give over the summer months. That is that todays effort and all the other efforts that resulted in small losses is just a complete and utter FAILURE! We need better players.
Top post flags.  :thumbsup

We know its pathetic. The coach knows we failed. The club knows they failed as do all the players.
But so many think this year has been a success.  :banghead

No excuses! We should be playing finals. Not good enough.
End of story.
Today was another pathetic effort.
Absolutely peeweak.

Great Post !!! :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Yeahright on September 02, 2012, 08:27:18 PM
Post lack confindence

Is he ever gonna gain confidence or is it gonna be an ongoing excuse for his below par performances
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Penelope on September 02, 2012, 08:42:41 PM
saw the first 1/4 and thought we we playing lazy bruise free footy. doesnt appear it got any better. I will have to get very bored during the week to watch the game, me thinks.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Penelope on September 02, 2012, 08:44:45 PM

But so many think this year has been a success.  :banghead


if you cant back this up with proof then it is official that you are a cretin.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 02, 2012, 08:48:33 PM
Post lack confindence

Is he ever gonna gain confidence or is it gonna be an ongoing excuse for his below par performances

No point in only highlighting a portion of what I said to form an argument.
I said he lacks confidence and mongrel.
We probably won't make it at the club, but that reflects on the club an their inability to develop players particularly in the past. Has the kid even played 50 games yet? How often does he string more than 5 games together? Has the club ever found a role for him and pushed for him to develop in that role??

He has the ability, and as I said he lacks the confidence. Whether or not that is anexcuse does not hide the fact it is the truth. I also said he lacks mongrel
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 02, 2012, 08:54:05 PM
10.5 wins was an improvement on last season but its a fail overall. Todays effort means Hardwick has a decent message to give over the summer months. That is that todays effort and all the other efforts that resulted in small losses is just a complete and utter FAILURE! We need better players.

Agree there's been improvement; though after today it's hard not to question that too :-\ but overall we finish in the "red" therefore it's a fail

But I think people misconstrue people acknowledging improvement as people saying it equates to a successful season. They are two very different things. I didn't expect finals but the end result of 10-1-11 is unacceptable IMHO
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 02, 2012, 09:25:52 PM
Agree boys whilst 10.5 wins is statistically an improvement on last year I aree we needed to at least get to 12 wins as a pass mark IMHO even though I felt at the start of the year we were not ready for finals this season.

What disappointed me the most today was in this, in the last two seasons we have lamented in giving away our home ground advantage for $500K and thus a 6 goal start and here against one of these clubs who we sold out on our home ground advantage we could not even win.

Soft soft soft Tigers. :wallywink
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: rogerd3 on September 02, 2012, 10:04:06 PM
mmm disappointing display today
too many thinking holiday mode
personally.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: mat073 on September 03, 2012, 01:06:54 AM
Watching the footy today was a little like watching one day cricket....boring and meaningless.
Happy jacky boy won the Coleman though.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: one-eyed on September 03, 2012, 02:53:21 AM
VIDEO: Highlights from yesterday's game:

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/tabid/11454/contentid/486377/rich+v+port+highlights/default.aspx

PICS:
(http://images.theage.com.au/2012/09/02/3603118/art-tigers-port-draw-620x349.jpg)
Photo: Getty Images

Getty Images:
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=136363649&EditorialProduct=Sport

Slattery Images (aflphotos.com.au):
http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202012%20Rd%2023%20-%20Richmond%20v%20Port%20Adelaide
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: mightytiges on September 03, 2012, 03:40:38 AM
saw the first 1/4 and thought we we playing lazy bruise free footy. doesnt appear it got any better. I will have to get very bored during the week to watch the game, me thinks.
I think you're spot on al calling yesterday's game bruise free footy. A sunny Sunday arvo in the last round going through the motios in a game that was meaningless. We played well off our Port opponents all day and gave them so much space. It definitely felt like we were trying not to get injuries (well that worked well with Dusty and Helbig going off).

Our structures failed as well. For 2.5 quarters Port continually had free players on the wings at centre bounces. It took until late in the third qtr for us to go 1-on-1 over the ground. The last few minutes were a repeat of the Gold Coast game. Allowing free Port players everywhere and us not being able to maintain possession and control of the footy. When you kick down the line with a minute or so to go you don't have everyone going up for the mark and keeping the ball in play. You get it across the boundary line and reset the play. Likewise when the coaches push all but 2 players behind the ball you don't just blindly kick it forward straight to the opposition with free space and numbers everywhere .

ps. A special mention also to the umps yesterday who had no idea. The didn't favour anyone (both sides copped shokers) but the inconsistencies all day were laughable.   
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Ruanaidh on September 03, 2012, 06:04:13 AM
It was a re-run of the Fremantle game minus the excuse of 'bad weather'. There are worrying signs for next year........still.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Penelope on September 03, 2012, 08:12:54 AM
Agree boys whilst 10.5 wins is statistically an improvement on last year I aree we needed to at least get to 12 wins as a pass mark IMHO even though I felt at the start of the year we were not ready for finals this season.

What disappointed me the most today was in this, in the last two seasons we have lamented in giving away our home ground advantage for $500K and thus a 6 goal start and here against one of these clubs who we sold out on our home ground advantage we could not even win.

Soft soft soft Tigers. :wallywink
A pertinent point about the selling of home games and then failing to win at home in such a game, Tucker.

When i heard the result yesterday i was thingking similar. It highlights that the line of thinking that selling home games cost us is not that solid.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Smokey on September 03, 2012, 08:21:26 AM
Ok, season's over and as we lament another 'unloseable loss', here is a link to brighten up your day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edZaDfmHfB4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edZaDfmHfB4)
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: mat073 on September 03, 2012, 08:33:24 AM
Gold smokey, pure gold.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 03, 2012, 08:35:05 AM
It was a re-run of the Fremantle game minus the excuse of 'bad weather'. There are worrying signs for next year........still.

yep 100% correct

why i really wanted to win is so we finish on 11 wins and really next year its finals or bust

Now i can just picture in 12 months time and we finish on 11.5 wins some will harp on about improvement yet still miss the finals in 2013.

The year IMO has been a failure. Some good things i.e Cotch but ultimately means jack if you don't make finals and achieve what you set out to achieve. Anyone remember the Hawks/Sydney wins now :nope

Hardwick is 100% correct.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: one-eyed on September 03, 2012, 01:21:37 PM
Bloody Tigers

They keep saying they will learn from their experiences, and they keep repeating their experiences. It was a cracking game of football yesterday at the G, but once again the Tigers had a hold of the game at the end and lost it. Officially, it was a draw, but the Tigers lost it. Seven points up with a couple of minutes to play, and it played out like the games against the Gold Coast, North Melbourne and Carlton. The positive is Richmond fight in games, and when they further mature, the tight ones just might go their way.

Mark Robinson's The Tackle (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/collingwood-needs-to-get-down-and-dirty-if-theyre-going-to-go-deep-into-finals/story-fn5937w8-1226463489723)
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: gerkin greg on September 03, 2012, 01:29:31 PM
(http://images.theage.com.au/2011/06/04/2408686/art-353-svMARKWILLIAMS-200x0.jpg)
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: hyperlite on September 03, 2012, 01:36:35 PM
Gutted by this result.

I had a bet with a mate at the start of the year, rich vs essendon. Whoever finishes lower on the ladder has to dress up in the opposite teams gear, and sing their theme song at our end of year Punters club trip. Watching us give up the win was just excruciating. The fact i have to dress up in essendon gear is bad enough, but the way we gave it up is even more embarrassing. So many "what if's" running through my head. Should be a laugh though, especially when i dress up as Derek Kickett and sing about how i was knifed in the back.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: eliminator on September 03, 2012, 05:33:53 PM
Pretty much on the mark "They keep saying they will learn from their experiences, and they keep repeating their experiences. It was a cracking game of football yesterday at the G, but once again the Tigers had a hold of the game at the end and lost it. Officially, it was a draw, but the Tigers lost it. Seven points up with a couple of minutes to play, and it played out like the games against the Gold Coast, North Melbourne and Carlton. The positive is Richmond fight in games, and when they further mature, the tight ones just might go their way". At least we hopefully will not go into the new season with any illusions of grandeur. A lack of depth, injuries and lack of composure lost us the game. We need to make the MCG a fortress against interstate clubs. The point port got they should have never got because the tackle before was holding the ball. Very poor umpiring. The mark Houli took was a ripper and was very impressed by Grigg's second half
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 03, 2012, 05:37:44 PM
(http://images.theage.com.au/2011/06/04/2408686/art-353-svMARKWILLIAMS-200x0.jpg)

Funny guy
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 03, 2012, 05:40:09 PM
It was a re-run of the Fremantle game minus the excuse of 'bad weather'. There are worrying signs for next year........still.

yep 100% correct

why i really wanted to win is so we finish on 11 wins and really next year its finals or bust

Now i can just picture in 12 months time and we finish on 11.5 wins some will harp on about improvement yet still miss the finals in 2013.

The year IMO has been a failure. Some good things i.e Cotch but ultimately means jack if you don't make finals and achieve what you set out to achieve. Anyone remember the Hawks/Sydney wins now :nope

Hardwick is 100% correct.

The one thing we should hope they take out of this game is the gutted feeling it left us with. We could/should have finished above both the Blues and Bummers

If yesterday's capitulation in the last couple of minutes doesn't drive them and burn with them for the next pre-season nothing will
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: tony_montana on September 03, 2012, 05:54:48 PM
It was a re-run of the Fremantle game minus the excuse of 'bad weather'. There are worrying signs for next year........still.

yep 100% correct

why i really wanted to win is so we finish on 11 wins and really next year its finals or bust

Now i can just picture in 12 months time and we finish on 11.5 wins some will harp on about improvement yet still miss the finals in 2013.

The year IMO has been a failure. Some good things i.e Cotch but ultimately means jack if you don't make finals and achieve what you set out to achieve. Anyone remember the Hawks/Sydney wins now :nope

Hardwick is 100% correct.

The one thing we should hope they take out of this game is the gutted feeling it left us with. We could/should have finished above both the Blues and Bummers

If yesterday's capitulation in the last couple of minutes doesn't drive them and burn with them for the next pre-season nothing will

When it's all said and done, probably best our season finished on that note, it symbolizes our season and will hopefully take them into preseason with drive as you say
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: one-eyed on September 04, 2012, 06:52:06 PM
Coaches' votes (Hardwick and Hocking):

Richmond v Port Adelaide
9 Brad Ebert (Port)

8 Jack Riewoldt (Rich)
4 Trent Cotchin (Rich)

4 Bachar Houli (Rich)

3 Jay Schulz (Port)

2 Kane Cornes (Port)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/146754/default.aspx
Title: Re: Richmond vs Port - Round 23
Post by: Darth Tiger on September 04, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
Hardwick is a match day coaching genius!!!

How can a master coach manufacture a draw so that RFC does not climb above competitors on the ladder to its weaken draft position, whilst simulataneously instilling a base of hunger for the coming pre-season reinforcing that the improvemnet must be tangible to acheive success.    :-[ :-[