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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tiger101 on September 17, 2012, 09:17:29 PM
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we are targeting a top 10 GWS player when he comes out of contract according to Mike.
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we are targeting a top 10 GWS player when he comes out of contract according to Mike.
This year?
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we are targeting a top 10 GWS player when he comes out of contract according to Mike.
This year?
They were unclear but GWS have come out and said they will figt back and target our big guns if we don't back off. Go for it tiges!
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we are targeting a top 10 GWS player when he comes out of contract according to Mike.
This year?
I couldn't imagine them letting one go. He didn't really say much about it. Just said we was after one. It was On The Couch.
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we are targeting a top 10 GWS player when he comes out of contract according to Mike.
Oakleigh Chargers ;)
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we are targeting a top 10 GWS player when he comes out of contract according to Mike.
Oakleigh Chargers ;)
Tyson or Tomlinson?
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After Cotch, Martin, and Jack are signed they can poach our 'big guns' until the cows come home. If they're that touchy about player in question he's probably already worth more than almost every one of our players that we haven't yet re-secured.
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I've split the discussion of this from the trade thread as it deserves it's own thread.
Here's the Giants' young guns from the top 10 of last year's draft ...
1. Jonathon Patton Eastern Ranges TAC Cup
2. Stephen Coniglio Swan Districts WAFL
3. Dom Tyson Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup
4. Will Hoskin-Elliott Western Jets TAC Cup
5. Matt Buntine Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup
7. Nick Haynes Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup
9. Adam Tomlinson Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup
10. Liam Sumner Sandringham Dragons TAC Cup
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Word on BF is Tyson's dad is a leading coterie member at Richmond. Dom himself grew up as a massive Tigers supporter.
The other link to GWS is Dylan Shiel has apparently been dating Mark Williams' daughter and she has moved down to Melbourne with her dad.
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Maybe it's time sheedy and gws got a taste of their own medicine
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It's Tyson. ;D
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For once I agree with username
Stuff sheeds
Can't help but think it has Choco written all over it
Payback xockksuccers
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What would it cost us?
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What would it cost us?
Pick 9 and a player.
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So they thinks they can pillage clubs but no one is allowed to touch their players? :lol Tyson would be a ripper at Richmond.
Get it done, Tiges :clapping™
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Massive massive get if we can pull this off :pray
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not sure why the angst against sheedy and GWS. They havent taken anyone from us and actually got us morris with very little in return. Sheedy did us a favour with that one
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Do it now. Do it. :clapping
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It's Tyson. ;D
Bada bing bada boom ;)
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not sure why the angst against sheedy and GWS. They havent taken anyone from us and actually got us morris with very little in return. Sheedy did us a favour with that one
Yeah they helped us out if you all think back...
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
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Word on BF is Tyson's dad is a leading coterie member at Richmond. Dom himself grew up as a massive Tigers supporter.
His father ceratinly isn't listed in the 2012 Coterie Members on the C'ub's web-site ;D
And as long as it isn't Hoskin-Elliott - in the few GWS games I watched he was a disappointment
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don't get too excited
from what i read he is listed until 2013 so if it is him it may not come to fruition for at least another 12 months,
As for sheeds and GWS, stuff em. We owe no one favours.
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
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Maybe it's time sheedy and gws got a taste of their own medicine
Exactly
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
look i dont know much about the kid but he is a rising star nominee, 1st round pick and you wouldnt give up our pick 9 for a rising youngster
who is under 21
your logic is?
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And as long as it isn't Hoskin-Elliott - in the few GWS games I watched he was a disappointment
Well I suggest you watch a few more
Played a great game against Norf and kicked 5 off a flank against the Suns
Will be a very good player
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Pick 9 for Dom Tyson. I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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As they said on the couch last night he is contracted till 2013 so i think we probably should worry about the draft coming up, who knows what could happen in a year we could be premiers next year and wont need this kid. We can hope
GO U TIGERS
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As they said on the couch last night he is contracted till 2013 so i think we probably should worry about the draft coming up, who knows what could happen in a year we could be premiers next year and wont need this kid. We can hope
GO U TIGERS
So we win a Premiership next season and just throw our list management out the window :lol :lol :gotigers
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tiger from tas if we could win a premiership next year i wouldn't care what happens for the next 2 years mate cause I'd still be celebrating i hear you with the list but a flag and a list growing like the cats/lions did we could dominate for the following years remember our list is young besides tuck and DJ
GO YOU TIGERS
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
Would you swap pick 9 for pick 3?
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not sure why the angst against sheedy and GWS. They havent taken anyone from us and actually got us morris with very little in return. Sheedy did us a favour with that one
GWS and Sheedy weren't trying to do us any favours when they threw the kitchen sink at Dusty when he'd only played 5 or 6 games for us. We had to move quickly and sign Dusty on bigger bucks than he was worth at the time..... f**k GWS !! No prisoners !
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agree with the dice man
they also took the player we wanted with the pick we gave them for morris and we had to settle on ellis
there was a handshake deal there and they went back on it
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agree with the dice man
they also took the player we wanted with the pick we gave them for morris and we had to settle on ellis
there was a handshake deal there and they went back on it
Still happier with Morris and Ellis over Smith.
Didn't know of this said 'handshake deal', the pricks!
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agree with the dice man
they also took the player we wanted with the pick we gave them for morris and we had to settle on ellis
there was a handshake deal there and they went back on it
We rated Ellis higher than Smith. We wanted Adams. But we knew he wasn't going to be there. Smith was our 3rd choice.
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Word on BF is Tyson's dad is a leading coterie member at Richmond. Dom himself grew up as a massive Tigers supporter.
His father ceratinly isn't listed in the 2012 Coterie Members on the C'ub's web-site ;D
And as long as it isn't Hoskin-Elliott - in the few GWS games I watched he was a disappointment
Did you miss the 5 goals he kicked as a midfielder? I wish our first year kids did that.
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agree with the dice man
they also took the player we wanted with the pick we gave them for morris and we had to settle on ellis
there was a handshake deal there and they went back on it
We rated Ellis higher than Smith. We wanted Adams. But we knew he wasn't going to be there. Smith was our 3rd choice.
:shh trying to whip up a mob here
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agree with the dice man
they also took the player we wanted with the pick we gave them for morris and we had to settle on ellis
there was a handshake deal there and they went back on it
We rated Ellis higher than Smith. We wanted Adams. But we knew he wasn't going to be there. Smith was our 3rd choice.
:shh trying to whip up a mob here
In that case . . . stuffing thieving pricks! :banghead :banghead :banghead Get pinhead Patton to Punt Road asap!
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agree with the dice man
they also took the player we wanted with the pick we gave them for morris and we had to settle on ellis
there was a handshake deal there and they went back on it
We rated Ellis higher than Smith. We wanted Adams. But we knew he wasn't going to be there. Smith was our 3rd choice.
:shh trying to whip up a mob here
Delete my post then. All is hush hush here :shh
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agree with the dice man
they also took the player we wanted with the pick we gave them for morris and we had to settle on ellis
there was a handshake deal there and they went back on it
We rated Ellis higher than Smith. We wanted Adams. But we knew he wasn't going to be there. Smith was our 3rd choice.
this.
Is absolute crap
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come to the party uninvited, without a date, and late did you hun :-*
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come to the party uninvited, without a date, and late did you hun :-*
:lol
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Word on BF is Tyson's dad is a leading coterie member at Richmond. Dom himself grew up as a massive Tigers supporter.
His father ceratinly isn't listed in the 2012 Coterie Members on the C'ub's web-site ;D
And as long as it isn't Hoskin-Elliott - in the few GWS games I watched he was a disappointment
From what I've heard, we're talking to WHE for next year. ;)
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
Would you swap pick 9 for pick 3?
Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9...
This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistle
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Not a real pick nine thou, was he?
Given the amount of players of his age group removed from the draft
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
Would you swap pick 9 for pick 3?
Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9...
This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistle
How is Tyson a top up player? He's a kid in his second year of senior football, would easily go in the top 10 if he was in this years draft. The kid is a young gun, who actually has an extra year of development under his belt ;)
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Not a real pick nine thou, was he?
Given the amount of players of his age group removed from the draft
He went Pick 3 ;)
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
Would you swap pick 9 for pick 3?
Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9...
This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistle
How is Tyson a top up player? He's a kid in his second year of senior football, would easily go in the top 10 if he was in this years draft. The kid is a young gun, who actually has an extra year of development under his belt ;)
Ok, I DID NOT NAME HIM AS A TOP UP PLAYER.......IS THAT CLEAR?????? I was generalising.
I said I wouldn't trade away pick 9 thats it, clear cut, nothing to read into. Enough said, IMO we keep pick 9...pretty easy to understand..
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Wow, you wouldn't give Pick 9 for Ablett?? The best player in the competition?
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Word on BF is Tyson's dad is a leading coterie member at Richmond. Dom himself grew up as a massive Tigers supporter.
His father ceratinly isn't listed in the 2012 Coterie Members on the C'ub's web-site ;D
And as long as it isn't Hoskin-Elliott - in the few GWS games I watched he was a disappointment
From what I've heard, we're talking to WHE for next year. ;)
We'd want to get Tyson signed first otherwise it's going to be hard to land both next year. Would make a formidable midfield though.
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
Would you swap pick 9 for pick 3?
Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9...
This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistle
sorry mate i dont agree with this at all.
Pick 9 for a young rising player is exactly what we should be using that pick on.
If thats through the draft or a kid like WHE or Dyson then so be it
A gun player who has already been in the system 12 months is icing on the cake.
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not sure why the angst against sheedy and GWS. They havent taken anyone from us and actually got us morris with very little in return. Sheedy did us a favour with that one
GWS and Sheedy weren't trying to do us any favours when they threw the kitchen sink at Dusty when he'd only played 5 or 6 games for us. We had to move quickly and sign Dusty on bigger bucks than he was worth at the time..... f**k GWS !! No prisoners !
I just knew someone would misinterpret this.
I am not saying dont do it, i just cant understand the spite leveled towards GWS and sheedy.
This is why i said that "I cant understand the angst", which is a bit different to saying "oohh, don't take anyone from GWS"
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
Would you swap pick 9 for pick 3?
Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9...
This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistle
Wow.... Pick 3>>>>>>>pick 9 dude, Dom Tyson went pick 3 last season, pick 3 and is a stuffing jet in the making, better than anything we'll get at pick 9 this draft..... But yeah we wouldn't be picking up a young gun with pick 9 if we did the above :lol
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not sure why the angst against sheedy and GWS. They havent taken anyone from us and actually got us morris with very little in return. Sheedy did us a favour with that one
GWS and Sheedy weren't trying to do us any favours when they threw the kitchen sink at Dusty when he'd only played 5 or 6 games for us. We had to move quickly and sign Dusty on bigger bucks than he was worth at the time..... f**k GWS !! No prisoners !
I just knew someone would misinterpret this.
I am not saying dont do it, i just cant understand the spite leveled towards GWS and sheedy.
This is why i said that "I cant understand the angst", which is a bit different to saying "oohh, don't take anyone from GWS"
Maybe u should have said "I can't understand the degree of angst" :shh
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:laugh: perhaps....
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anways, if it is Tyson, how the eff do we get him if GWS have the poos and dont want to do business. He is contracted isnt he? and GWS are unlikely to let him go for pick 9
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Pick 9 and Nahas. You could throw in Post too!
As one famous supporter keeps on saying....
Get it done Tiges!!!!
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
Would you swap pick 9 for pick 3?
Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9...
This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistle
How is Tyson a top up player? He's a kid in his second year of senior football, would easily go in the top 10 if he was in this years draft. The kid is a young gun, who actually has an extra year of development under his belt ;)
Ok, I DID NOT NAME HIM AS A TOP UP PLAYER.......IS THAT CLEAR?????? I was generalising.
I said I wouldn't trade away pick 9 thats it, clear cut, nothing to read into. Enough said, IMO we keep pick 9...pretty easy to understand..
Then why mention "Top Up Players" when it is clear that the thread and all the discussions in it are related to pick 9 and Dom Tyson????
Re Read what you wrote! You said....Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9... Then then directly after that you wrote....This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistl
So what are you trying to say exactly??
LMAO at the way you back peddle and add disclaimers every time you post something stupid :lol :lol
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Pick 9 and Nahas. You could throw in Post too!
As one famous supporter keeps on saying....
Get it done Tiges!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv2JDCKLi0k
we don't have a hell of a lot to offer. for a contracted player they don't want to lose would take something like martin to get any interest
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Pass on off loading dusty
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It's Tyson. ;D
Bada bing bada boom ;)
Dooks you need to change your name to "Jimmy the Fish", "Tony the Tuna" or "Mickey Three Eyes" (Think about it) ;D
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Give them Edwards and Nahas.
Get it done tiges!
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Word on BF is Tyson's dad is a leading coterie member at Richmond. Dom himself grew up as a massive Tigers supporter.
His father ceratinly isn't listed in the 2012 Coterie Members on the C'ub's web-site ;D
And as long as it isn't Hoskin-Elliott - in the few GWS games I watched he was a disappointment
Did you miss the 5 goals he kicked as a midfielder? I wish our first year kids did that.
Yes I did
But sadly I didn't miss him pulling out of contest to avoid physical contact and I think people know my views on players that "squib" the contest. Think we have enough of those :thumbsup
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
Would you swap pick 9 for pick 3?
Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9...
This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistle
How is Tyson a top up player? He's a kid in his second year of senior football, would easily go in the top 10 if he was in this years draft. The kid is a young gun, who actually has an extra year of development under his belt ;)
Ok, I DID NOT NAME HIM AS A TOP UP PLAYER.......IS THAT CLEAR?????? I was generalising.
I said I wouldn't trade away pick 9 thats it, clear cut, nothing to read into. Enough said, IMO we keep pick 9...pretty easy to understand..
Mate, it's actually not easy to understand. In fact it's plain irrational.
If Tyson is seen by the club as better than their best couple of picks in the current draft and we can do the deal with pick 9, we do it. If they don't, we leave it.
If he is our best teenage option, it makes sense because :-
- He is still a teenager so it makes no difference from an age perspective
- he removes us from the lottery of a draft
- we get a kid with an extra Pre season under his belt.
I would understand us not trading pick 9 for Ablett because we are still trying to build our list with quality kids - which might by WATs point.
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
Would you swap pick 9 for pick 3?
Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9...
This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistle
How is Tyson a top up player? He's a kid in his second year of senior football, would easily go in the top 10 if he was in this years draft. The kid is a young gun, who actually has an extra year of development under his belt ;)
Ok, I DID NOT NAME HIM AS A TOP UP PLAYER.......IS THAT CLEAR?????? I was generalising.
I said I wouldn't trade away pick 9 thats it, clear cut, nothing to read into. Enough said, IMO we keep pick 9...pretty easy to understand..
Mate, it's actually not easy to understand. In fact it's plain irrational.
If Tyson is seen by the club as better than their best couple of picks in the current draft and we can do the deal with pick 9, we do it. If they don't, we leave it.
If he is our best teenage option, it makes sense because :-
- He is still a teenager so it makes no difference from an age perspective
- he removes us from the lottery of a draft
- we get a kid with an extra Pre season under his belt.
I would understand us not trading pick 9 for Ablett because we are still trying to build our list with quality kids - which might by WATs point.
The voice of reason. Finally some common sense
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Maybe I'm stupid but I'd trade pick 9 for Gazza Jnr.
Would only get 4 years from him but boy would it make ours a powerful midfield.
Might pinch a flag or 2 with that call over the next few seasons.
Tyson? Much less proven prospect.
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I would understand us not trading pick 9 for Ablett because we are still trying to build our list with quality kids - which might by WATs point.
The voice of reason. Not trading Pick 9 for Ablett. Thats some mighty good weed people are smoking here if that is understandable. Cough Cough..... Can't read through all the smoke....
Ablett for Pick 9. Get it done Tiges!
WP. Junior player avoiding crippling contact from a bigger body. Is that squibbing or not being a total idiot. Fine line.... I like your sentiment but give him a couple of preseasons before you draw a line through him. Our squibs don't kick 5 goals. Still an upgrade.
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give it your best shot Sheeds, or better still best
that you start trying now cause i think you'll
find all 3 will be signed shortly...ha ha ha... :thumbsup
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so is ablett for pick 9 a true rumour? Is it on big footy?
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so is ablett for pick 9 a true rumour? Is it on big footy?
It's a rumor WAT started by saying he wouldn't give up pick 9 for anyone not even Ablett :o
Just to refresh WAT is the same guy who is also happy to see McGuane get a new contract :lol :lol
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so it will happen then?
no chance of cloke and caddy now, i wouldnt think.
or are we going to on trade him for tyson and 2 picks in the mini draft, with mcguane, white and post all thrown in?
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so is ablett for pick 9 a true rumour? Is it on big footy?
It's a rumor WAT started by saying he wouldn't give up pick 9 for anyone not even Ablett :o
Just to refresh WAT is the same guy who is also happy to see McGuane get a new contract :lol :lol
Gunna go post it on BF and see what the Bummer ferals have to say. :whistle
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This forum is becoming BF.... :help
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Pick 9 and Nahas and Graham for Tyson and Pick 21 / 24 and Pick 44? All of them have 1 year left on contracts. :lol
Need to keep pick 9, we don't need to trade away picks like this, regardless.
Would you swap pick 9 for pick 3?
Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9...
This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistle
How is Tyson a top up player? He's a kid in his second year of senior football, would easily go in the top 10 if he was in this years draft. The kid is a young gun, who actually has an extra year of development under his belt ;)
Ok, I DID NOT NAME HIM AS A TOP UP PLAYER.......IS THAT CLEAR?????? I was generalising.
I said I wouldn't trade away pick 9 thats it, clear cut, nothing to read into. Enough said, IMO we keep pick 9...pretty easy to understand..
Then why mention "Top Up Players" when it is clear that the thread and all the discussions in it are related to pick 9 and Dom Tyson????
Re Read what you wrote! You said....Regardless of players involved.... ::).......no I wouldn't take Judd or Ablett for pick 9... Then then directly after that you wrote....This has been our past problem, too many people thought we needed top up players in 95.......we need to pick a young gun with pick 9 not trade it away, unless it's for pick 1. :whistl
So what are you trying to say exactly??
LMAO at the way you back peddle and add disclaimers every time you post something stupid :lol :lol
TFT, you are the only stupid one here with your... :lol :lol....every stuffing post, grow up.
AGAIN, where did I say his name or are you doing what you usually do and make poo up!!!
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WP. Junior player avoiding crippling contact from a bigger body. Is that squibbing or not being a total idiot. Fine line.... I like your sentiment but give him a couple of preseasons before you draw a line through him. Our squibs don't kick 5 goals. Still an upgrade.
Understand your thinking but history tells me that in many cases if they "squib" early on in thier careers it continues through their careers and that's what concerns me
Also, the couple of GWS games I watched (and I am assuming this was before his 5 goal game) his disposal was average at best when under pressure
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Agree with that WP but his disposal became a weapon the more games he played - he only played 10 and he's probably 8-10kgs under weight.
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Not many players with a 2-dads surname usually make it.
::)
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Not many players with a 2-dads surname usually make it.
::)
A bloke by the name of Two Dogs told me that too!
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Agree with that WP but his disposal became a weapon the more games he played - he only played 10 and he's probably 8-10kgs under weight.
Fair enough gerks :thumbsup
Perhaps he should of tried the Choco diet to pick those extra kgs
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Come on tigers. take on these gws/gc lists
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Come on tigers. Take on these gws/gc lists
Might want to re-phrase that comment, that is one word and heinous crime I completely despise in any form. It certainly should not be used on a footy forum to describe drafting a player. >:(
Its as bad as using abortion out of context.
I haven't reported it but I will leave it up to your better judgement.
Edited: Original post edited by mods; quote edited as well but remainder of post not edited
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No way VLAD would let him get to us this year.
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Hey guys, I think it's Dom Tyson :shh
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WP, can we have an OER Uncut special to be revealed after 9pm because I'm missing all the good stuff! ;D
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why was my post molested? Are we tip toeing on eggshells to protect Wats delicate flower like sensibilities while he works for companies pillaging the resources of poor countries? Turn it up !
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Passive aggressive tiger.
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:lol
From BomberBlitz
Giles and Tyson for Bell(chambers) and maybe our 3rd rounder is a good trade.
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Yes pls ablett :-X
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:lol
From BomberBlitz
Giles and Tyson for Bell(chambers) and maybe our 3rd rounder is a good trade.
:lol have to love the delusion they could get Tyson for anything less than a first round and a not-quite-fringe player :lol
It's not just bummer blitz. It's a generic bummer thing. My boss said "we'll just trade the first round compensation pick we get for Gumbleton to GC for Caddy." :rollin
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:lol
From BomberBlitz
Giles and Tyson for Bell(chambers) and maybe our 3rd rounder is a good trade.
Also read another one on there which said Dyson for Tyson straight swap lol.
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:lol
From BomberBlitz
Giles and Tyson for Bell(chambers) and maybe our 3rd rounder is a good trade.
:lol have to love the delusion they could get Tyson for anything less than a first round and a not-quite-fringe player :lol
It's not just bummer blitz. It's a generic bummer thing. My boss said "we'll just trade the first round compensation pick we get for Gumbleton to GC for Caddy." :rollin
:lol :lol :lol
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lol at post nahas white edwards being offered up. they are going to at the least want quality for quality. or at the least a player who they know can fill a need.
they need defenders it would take pick 9 and rance for tyson and their pick 24 a pick they are unlikely to use anyway.
as everyone knows i think rance over rated but its obvious he has plenty of trade value as others do rate him.
it depends on just how highl;y you rate tyson is him and 24 worth more than rance and 9.
are we in a position yet to be doing these deals lots of things to weigh up. one thing for sure gc would laugh in our faces if we offered up hacks like nahas etc.
they are losing a player who as a junior is just as highly rated as cotchin or martin was in their drafts. bloody hell we knocked back 6 and 14 to get martin at 3. would we be prepared to offer up 9 and rance for dustin martin thats the equivalant imo.
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the crux is how how highly tyson is rated compared to how highly the kids likely to be availabale at 9 are rated
Unless they rate him a great deal higher then only expendable players will the thrown in as a sweetener.
Pick 9 is the core, the players will only make up the difference between tyson and this years potential pick 9.
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they need defenders it would take pick 9 and rance for tyson and their pick 24 a pick they are unlikely to use anyway.
Rance and pick 9. Might as well throw in Cotchin while you are at it. I am glad you are not in charge of our trading. We would have nothing left inside a couple of years.
If they want a defender, give them Post or Griffiths and 9 for Tyson and 24.
I agree with Al's comments. Isn't this draft supposed to be stronger than previous years? I wouldn't get too carried away rating GWS development. Getting thrashed every week isn't a great way to develop footballers. The year he has spent there has probably been detrimental to his development.
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we could all be barking up the wrong tree here.
did sheean say we would target a top ten draft pick for GWS, next year, when the player in question comes out of contract?
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lol at post nahas white edwards being offered up. they are going to at the least want quality for quality. or at the least a player who they know can fill a need.
they need defenders it would take pick 9 and rance for tyson and their pick 24
Madness claw.
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lol at post nahas white edwards being offered up. they are going to at the least want quality for quality. or at the least a player who they know can fill a need.
:lol :clapping
To true, I won't mention it again......maybe we can get a boot studder though..
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Why would we have to give up quality for an unknown quality?
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Rance alone should get us Tyson and pick 24, but i'm against trading Rance anyway.
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Rance is the lynch-pin of our backline. He has as much chance as Jack to be traded, not impossible but far from probable.
The club has identified our backlines and Rances weaknesses in general and are trying to recruit a player which will cover these deficencies in Chaplin. Rance hasn't the strength to go with the monster forwards but has the pace and size to go with the larger mobile types. With Chaplin in the team our run out of defense will be hard to stop. Rance, Grimes, Morris and Newman can all link up well and run out of defense. Players like Batchelor and Ellis add depth this this area. The big stopper/shut down defender is where we have been lacking down back.
Rance won't be traded.
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Like Al said, the player component isn't important as long as it could be a required player for them. The sell is whether or not they think they can get a better player or not with pick 9.
This is all speculation anyway. But if it were the case then we would compare the players we think can get at pick 9 vs Tyson. GWS would do the same. The extra player component is a sweetener, not the crux. Us trading a quality and required player would entirely defeat the purpose.
If this deal didn't get done this off season then IMO next year will be a repeat of the Caddy situation and every other club will be in trying to cut our grass. Not getting my hopes up on this one to be honest.
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Rance is the lynch-pin of our backline. He has as much chance as Jack to be traded, not impossible but far from probable.
The club has identified our backlines and Rances weaknesses in general and are trying to recruit a player which will cover these deficencies in Chaplin. Rance hasn't the strength to go with the monster forwards but has the pace and size to go with the larger mobile types. With Chaplin in the team our run out of defense will be hard to stop. Rance, Grimes, Morris and Newman can all link up well and run out of defense. Players like Batchelor and Ellis add depth this this area. The big stopper/shut down defender is where we have been lacking down back.
Rance won't be traded.
Stripes, always in with the common sense :cheers
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RoboRance.
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they need defenders it would take pick 9 and rance for tyson and their pick 24 a pick they are unlikely to use anyway.
Rance and pick 9. Might as well throw in Cotchin while you are at it. I am glad you are not in charge of our trading. We would have nothing left inside a couple of years.
If they want a defender, give them Post or Griffiths and 9 for Tyson and 24.
I agree with Al's comments. Isn't this draft supposed to be stronger than previous years? I wouldn't get too carried away rating GWS development. Getting thrashed every week isn't a great way to develop footballers. The year he has spent there has probably been detrimental to his development.
im just stating what it will cost to get dom tyson. while i agree they rate rance for some reason and wont offer him up it will take a player of rances rating if you like plus pick 9.
tyson is not a pick 9 hes a pick 3 an absolute stand out and would be in this yrs draft as well. if not rance swap him for a player like vickery it will cost to get the deal done.
you are talking potentially the likes of martin or cotchin. just a few high quality players like cotchin carried us on their shoulders this yr just imagine another.we passed on pick 6 and pick 14 to get martin dom tyson is rated just as highly by many. this should give you an idea of what it will cost.
alex rance while a decent player is the most over rated richmond player ive seen.yes he can play but hes no star.
with chaplin coming a better defender imo who some people dont rate, and if we took someone like lee and rookied a mature kpd like hartigan we would not miss rance. imo we need to add chaplin lee and hartigan or similar even if we keep rance.
i dont get the love for him. constantly misjudges balls in the air. when he has to go one on one is regularly beaten. is always out of position and constantly falls over.
his footskills are average though he now makes better decisions and its become reliable. again hes no star hes decent.
he had so many goals kicked on him for a reason. the club for the last two yrs is chasing hard a big bodied deep defender for a reason.
for these reasons and more i think hes expendable he has true trade value and would maybe get the deal done. on that im not sure if sheedy would want rance.if mugs like me can see his deficiencies experts sure can. also i know we cshould not be trading away defenders and one of our better ones to do such a thing the player you are after would need to be high quality and imo tyson is that but hes unproven that is the risk with him i suppose.
if anybody here had watched alex as a junior they would know he was only average in the air and his strength was his running game. that has not changed and is unlikely to change.
he provides great run is almost kamikaze in his attack on the ball both on the ground and in the air he has become a reliable kick in the main. but he misjudges and makes far too many mistakes in amongst the good he does do.
finally in rating rance against other FB i have him well down the pecking order and because of his deficiencies i dont see a huge scope for improvement as a fb hes at his ceiling imo. he cant get anymore desperate than he is and that is just not enough.
for me to rate rance higher he will have to improve his areas of weakness not sure thats going to happen.. i can see him playing well as a hb and playing to his strengths hes no mug and worth keeping have never said different.
just my opinion on the bloke and just stating what it will take to get such a high quality player as tyson.
quality costs and it usually comes where both parties are happy with the trade. who in their right mind would think gws would be happy with pick 9 and a list of outright duds to choose from.
for what its worth i cant see tyson at richmond. i dont think we are in a position to be trading out of the few decent players we have we need to be adding to them. tyson type trades are really for when we have actually built the list and have some depth imo but for a player of such quality or potential quality you have to give it serious consideration.
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Rance is overrated. No question of it. Goes in hard, so people rate him 200% over his performance. Consistently makes appalling skill errors that result in goals but are overlooked because of his attack on the ball. But given he is rated so highly, the offer you are proposing is too generous. Based on your view of him as a player, it makes sense. But that isn't market value and how he is rated by the broader football community.
Tambling was number 4 in the draft. Draft position doesn't make the player. Your giving Tyson a very high perceived value considering he hasn't made it yet. What you need to consider is whether that value is realistically gettable for GWS. If he wants to come back to Victoria, they may get nothing for him. Therefore his actual value is significantly less. The other consideration is the respective strength of the drafts from last year to this year. The gap between pick 3 and 9 could be more like the gap between pick 5 and 9 if this years draft is stronger. ie. He might have gone pick 5 or 6 in this years draft or this years pick nine might have gone pick 5 or 6 in last years draft. Either way, the gap is closer and the perceived trade required to close that gap would be significantly less. ie. Griffiths or Post as opposed to Rance.
Either way, if he is as good as some people rate him, we should be making a play for him and shouldn't shy away from giving up pick 9. The argument that pick 9 should go to a kid. Well Tyson is a kid. Don't know why anyone would make a broad objection like some people have to that proposition.
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I think you are only talking about one person making such a strange broad objection there unplugged.
As you rightfully say, what pick tyson was taken at is irrelevant now. The question is how good is he compared to what will likely be available at pick 9 this year?
Are we talking about cotchin compared to foley or cotchin compared to deledio?
To throw in arguably the best 23 year old KPD in the league you need to be near talking cotchin compared to jackson
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Rance is a shocking kick.
I'd do a straight swap for Tyson.
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lol at post nahas white edwards being offered up. they are going to at the least want quality for quality. or at the least a player who they know can fill a need.
:lol :clapping
To true, I won't mention it again......maybe we can get a boot studder though..
Do you fail to realise he is valuable for us? 3rd highest goal kicker for us and has the highest total and average of goal assists?
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yes
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lol at post nahas white edwards being offered up. they are going to at the least want quality for quality. or at the least a player who they know can fill a need.
:lol :clapping
To true, I won't mention it again......maybe we can get a boot studder though..
Do you fail to realise he is valuable for us? 3rd highest goal kicker for us and has the highest total and average of goal assists?
Edwards could win the Coleman, and WAT would fault him for not winning the Brownlow also.
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lol at post nahas white edwards being offered up. they are going to at the least want quality for quality. or at the least a player who they know can fill a need.
:lol :clapping
To true, I won't mention it again......maybe we can get a boot studder though..
Do you fail to realise he is valuable for us? 3rd highest goal kicker for us and has the highest total and average of goal assists?
Edwards could win the Coleman, and WAT would fault him for not winning the Brownlow also.
:lol and if He won Lotto, he would complain about having to go to the Bank to cash the cheque.
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TrossMan is a gun and bleeds for the club. You do not give away these types because they are value for money. Has deficiencies and needs help but he is a warrior and is still young for a KPP.
I'd be gutted if we traded Tross.
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Go back to big footy. Pick 9 and tross ffs :lol
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yes
isn't it yesssssss big man
or something
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yeah, something like that?
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i don't know, hard to keep up with the kids these days
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i just find it hard to keep it up
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"get it done"
"yessss big man"
"i love the sausage"
you're all clowns.
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Claw - what center half backs have been stars before 23 year old.
France is build like a Greek God and as.brave as.Morris. has all the tools to be a gun.
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Claw - what center half backs have been stars before 23 year old.
France is build like a Greek God and as.brave as.Morris. has all the tools to be a gun.
Yeah, but crap at actual warfare.