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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 19, 2012, 02:00:00 AM
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GWS Giants threaten Trent Cotchin offer as they tell Richmond that Dom Tyson is off limits
Michael Warner and Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
September 19, 2012
GREATER Western Sydney has threatened to steal Trent Cotchin from Richmond in retaliation for its interest in Giants young gun Dom Tyson.
GWS officials sounded out Cotchin's manager, Anthony McConville, two weeks ago after discovering the Tigers had inquired about luring last year's No.3 draft pick back to Melbourne.
The Giants gave McConville a clear indication of a massive offer they were prepared to make Cotchin, who comes out of contract after next season.Tyson, 19, is believed to be keen on a return to Melbourne after just one year at the club.
He is the only one of the eight GWS Rising Star nominees not yet re-signed by the Giants.
Richmond could wait until he fell out of contract next year, or try to push for a trade immediately under the threat that he could walk out for nothing at the end of next season.
The AFL yesterday confirmed a first-year player could be traded - but only if he and his club consented.
GWS has made it clear it is not willing to trade Tyson.
Gold Coast youngster Josh Caddy was nearly traded to Essendon last year after becoming homesick.
At least one other Victorian club has inquired about Tyson as clubs begin to eye the abundance of talent on the GWS list.
GWS would not comment publicly yesterday, but views this as the first real skirmish in the battle to keep its star-studded list.
It made it known it was cashed up and prepared to go to war with any club that saw its young stars as targets.
GWS says it will use an extra $1 million-plus in its salary cap to poach big-name players.
Tyson's manager, Nick Gieschen, from Elite Sports Properties, said there had not been a decision to leave GWS.
"He is contracted until next year," Gieschen said.
"He's happy enough with GWS ... and no other firm decisions regarding his future have been made."
The club's No.1 draft pick, Jonathan Patton is yet to extend his contract with the club, but is considered extremely happy at the Giants.
Given his knee surgery and a modest year,he is more likely to commit after he strings together some games next season.
Richmond has already been linked to Port Adelaide's Troy Chaplain and Matt Thomas, and Adelaide's Chris Knights.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/gws-giants-threaten-cotchin-offer-as-they-tell-richmond-dom-tyson-is-off-limits/story-fndv7pj3-1226476839357
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GWS are deluded if they think Cotchin will go there.
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Remember though, we have to match their offer and we may not be able to do that...
On the other hand, Tigers, just re-sign him before the start of this coming season and that will stop the crap.
Sign him now Tiges... :gotigers
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Remember though, we have to match their offer and we may not be able to do that...
On the other hand, Tigers, just re-sign him before the start of this coming season and that will stop the crap.
Sign him now Tiges... :gotigers
Yet people want to be all warm and fuzzy to sheeds
Give me a break stuff the old ....
WAT we will match anything to keep our captain
He will get signed up before season proper. 5 yr deal would be brilliant
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Remember though, we have to match their offer and we may not be able to do that...
On the other hand, Tigers, just re-sign him before the start of this coming season and that will stop the crap.
Sign him now Tiges... :gotigers
Yet people want to be all warm and fuzzy to sheeds
Give me a break stuff the old ....
WAT we will match anything to keep our captain
He will get signed up before season proper. 5 yr deal would be brilliant
I hope so but not to the detrement of the club and the rest of the team....1m is a hell of a lot and would that reduce Lids wage and a few of the others. This is what we need to think obout.
An early signing would just stop it all now.
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Remember though, we have to match their offer and we may not be able to do that...
On the other hand, Tigers, just re-sign him before the start of this coming season and that will stop the crap.
Sign him now Tiges... :gotigers
Can you tell me why we have to match their offer for me? I'd like to hear your reasoning.
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GWS Giants threaten Trent Cotchin offer as they tell Richmond that Dom Tyson is off limits
Tyson's manager, Nick Gieschen, from Elite Sports Properties, said there had not been a decision to leave GWS.
"He is contracted until next year," Gieschen said.
"He's happy enough with GWS ... and no other firm decisions regarding his future have been made."
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/gws-giants-threaten-cotchin-offer-as-they-tell-richmond-dom-tyson-is-off-limits/story-fndv7pj3-1226476839357
lol, not exactly glowing endorsement of GWS, if would be worried if i were them
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Sign Trent up now
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They sound fearful to me lol
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GWS sound like a bunch of brats.
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Sign Trent up now
Correct. If we give Trent the captaincy and at the same time get a five year extension to his contract, GWS cannot touch him and we can go after Dom with the comfort that he is safely in our hands!
Get it done Tiges!
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I think they are worried that their high risk strategy might fail. By basically taking all young kids they have few old pros that are definitely going to stay. They could end up with half their young guns going home within 3 years and all their plans would come to nought. The Gold Coast have done it better for the rocky short term, GWS maybe for the longer term.
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lol go for it GWS, somehow I dont think Cotch will be leaving us :shh
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lol go for it GWS, somehow I dont think Cotch will be leaving us :shh
:clapping :clapping
He wont be leaving us
As for needing to match their offer to keep him ... please I don't think so. Cotchin isn't driven by the $$$, he isn't Junior Ablett ;D
Beside in 2012 we are only paying around 93%-95% of the cap, we can easily accomodate our next Captain. Give the club some credit they've been planning for this for :thumbsup
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lol go for it GWS, somehow I dont think Cotch will be leaving us :shh
Exactly. Do your worst GWS :clapping
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Remember though, we have to match their offer and we may not be able to do that...
:huh :huh why do we have to match here offer? Cotchin isn't a free agent next season so GWS could offer him $5 bucks and if Cotchin wanted to accept it there is nothing we could do!
But at the end of the day he won't be going anywhere any one can see he's a Tiger through and through!
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Remember though, we have to match their offer and we may not be able to do that...
:huh :huh why do we have to match here offer? Cotchin isn't a free agent next season so GWS could offer him $5 bucks and if Cotchin wanted to accept it there is nothing we could do!
But at the end of the day he won't be going anywhere any one can see he's a Tiger through and through!
Sorry I thought it said he was a free agent at the end of next year, well that makes a difference, he won't leave. :thumbsup
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Pretty sure Cotch can reject their offer and we then dont have to match it. Cotchin will never leave Richmond. Neither will Martin, Reiwoldt or Deledio....
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Pretty sure Cotch can reject their offer and we then dont have to match it. Cotchin will never leave Richmond. Neither will Martin, Reiwoldt or Deledio....
Not so sure about Martin, he is a bit of a loose canon, he could have a bad hair day one day like Ottens. Finals consistently will be a must to keep him IMO and probably Jack for that matter.
Jack likes the big stage, craves it....
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Can't put a price on captaining a finals side.
We've been managing our payments to retain our players anyway :thumbsup
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Remember though, we have to match their offer and we may not be able to do that...
:huh :huh why do we have to match here offer? Cotchin isn't a free agent next season so GWS could offer him $5 bucks and if Cotchin wanted to accept it there is nothing we could do!
But at the end of the day he won't be going anywhere any one can see he's a Tiger through and through!
correct
adding to that our Cotch gave a car away to charity that he won from one of his awards.
Chasing money is not in his vocabulary
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Give them pick 9 and Post and tell em to STFU!
Cotch will resign soon anyway!
Hopefully Choco has been in his ear
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cotchin will never leave he has got the captaincy next year and beyond, gws can threaten all they like bring it on we
should chase who ever we want lets start making a stand tigers collingwood do so why cant we
GO U TIGERS
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Give them pick 9 and Post and tell em to STFU!
Sounds good.
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lol go for it GWS, somehow I dont think Cotch will be leaving us :shh
Beside in 2012 we are only paying around 93%-95% of the cap, we can easily accomodate our next Captain. Give the club so credit they've been planning for this for :thumbsup
Exactly WP, (al and smokey will like this):
In this CC has excelled and his forward planning on front ending contracts to free up space from a few years back was great foresight :clapping
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Ooooo scary :shh
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we will keep cotchin and lets get tyson to shove it up sheeds a r s e
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Cotch will resign soon anyway!
So you're saying he's gone ? :huh
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Cotch will resign soon anyway!
So you're saying he's gone ? :huh
Yesssssssssssss :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Not so sure about Martin, he is a bit of a loose canon, he could have a bad hair day one day like Ottens. Finals consistently will be a must to keep him IMO and probably Jack for that matter.
Jack likes the big stage, craves it....
Totally disagree.
Loyalty is incredibly important to Martin it is something that was instilled in him by his old man. He won't leave
Jack is a Tiger loves the club with a passion. He won't be going anywhere.
Just my take ;D
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Not so sure about Martin, he is a bit of a loose canon, he could have a bad hair day one day like Ottens. Finals consistently will be a must to keep him IMO and probably Jack for that matter.
Jack likes the big stage, craves it....
Totally disagree.
Loyalty is incredibly important to Martin it is something that was instilled in him by his old man. He won't leave
Jack is a Tiger loves the club with a passion. He won't be going anywhere.
Just my take ;D
Got all excited. Made it sound like facts. Then I read the last line. Shame on you.
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Not so sure about Martin, he is a bit of a loose canon, he could have a bad hair day one day like Ottens. Finals consistently will be a must to keep him IMO and probably Jack for that matter.
Jack likes the big stage, craves it....
Totally disagree.
Loyalty is incredibly important to Martin it is something that was instilled in him by his old man. He won't leave
Jack is a Tiger loves the club with a passion. He won't be going anywhere.
Just my take ;D
Got all excited. Made it sound like facts. Then I read the last line. Shame on you.
It's my take based on what Martin said when he re-signed the last year
Re Jack it's my take based on the few times I've been lucky enough to chat to him at player sponsor dinners. He loves the club that's the one thing that stands out like a beacon, hence why I don't believe he will leave the club
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It s a credit to JR that he feels like that even with the haters out there.
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Yeah Kev, all the best with getting Cotch, mate. :laugh:
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Laughable, pathetic attempt by GWS to distract the Tigers from their list targets.
Finally the Tigers are genuinely going about a full club administration and list rebuild in a planned & professional manner.
Eat 'em Alive RFC.
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lol go for it GWS, somehow I dont think Cotch will be leaving us :shh
:clapping :clapping
He wont be leaving us
As for needing to match their offer to keep him ... please I don't think so. Cotchin isn't driven by the $$$, he isn't Junior Ablett ;D
Beside in 2012 we are only paying around 93%-95% of the cap, we can easily accomodate our next Captain. Give the club some credit they've been planning for this for :thumbsup
hit the nail on the head WP, Cotchin is safe as houses.
in fact all three will be signed sooner rather than later. :thumbsup
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agree with rog and willie.
they will all sign.
people forget that all three and deledio have allready knocked back big money deals from GWS allready.
If they were going to leave they had the chance to do it then and they didnt. So why now
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agree with rog and willie.
they will all sign.
people forget that all three and deledio have allready knocked back big money deals from GWS allready.
If they were going to leave they had the chance to do it then and they didnt. So why now
Thanks Craig!
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puts them in headlines where they shouldn't be.
Gotta love Sheeds.
Best poo stirrer in the AFL - Ever
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The bloke wins a car for best player in game.. gives it away.
Good luck gws :cheers
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gave it away because he's sponsored by jeep.....not that he's not a great kid but........u know.
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The bloke wins a car for best player in game.. gives it away.
Good luck gws :cheers
I'd give away a Hyundai too..
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gave it away because he's sponsored by jeep.....not that he's not a great kid but........u know.
Ah...
If he got jeep money extra few 100k yo move north wont swing it
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The age award should be a Phase III GT HO.
See him give it away then..
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That has to be the most laughable and delusional footy headline in a while and that's saying something.
Cotch - future captain, loves the club and as others have said had the chance previously to chase the $$$ if he was interested but knocked it back.
Lids - signed up to 2017. One club player.
Martin - lived once in Western Sydney and hated it.
Jack - loves the club and standing in front of the cheer squad.
What's more GWS are living with the fairies if they think playing in front of crowds of just 7k in the middle of nowhere surburbia for a franchise with no history that won't play finals for 4-5 years compares with a traditional big 4 Victorian club playing in front of massive vocal support at the 'G most weeks that will play finals if not next year then definitely the year after. Sure Scully and Ward chased the cash but they were playing for small clubs with poor resources which were both heading south for a major rebuilding phase. In Scully's case he left a rabble of a club on and off-field.
If GWS want "payback" they can take Daniel Jackson. He's out of contract next year and will be a free agent ;). I know all us Tiger supporters would be devastated to see him poached :whistle :nope.
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That has to be the most laughable and delusional footy headline in a while and that's saying something.
Cotch - future captain, loves the club and as others have said had the chance previously to chase the $$$ if he was interested but knocked it back.
Lids - signed up to 2017. One club player.
Martin - lived once in Western Sydney and hated it.
Jack - loves the club and standing in front of the cheer squad.
What's more GWS are living with the fairies if they think playing in front of crowds of just 7k in the middle of nowhere surburbia for a franchise with no history that won't play finals for 4-5 years compares with a traditional big 4 Victorian club playing in front of massive vocal support at the 'G most weeks that will play finals if not next year then definitely the year after. Sure Scully and Ward chased the cash but they were playing for small clubs with poor resources which were both heading south for a major rebuilding phase. In Scully's case he left a rabble of a club on and off-field.
If GWS want "payback" they can take Daniel Jackson. He's out of contract next year and will be a free agent ;). I know all us Tiger supporters would be devastated to see him poached :whistle :nope.
NooooOooOOOOOOooooOoo
Has to be next year or I'm ending this poo.
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That has to be the most laughable and delusional footy headline in a while and that's saying something.
Cotch - future captain, loves the club and as others have said had the chance previously to chase the $$$ if he was interested but knocked it back.
Lids - signed up to 2017. One club player.
Martin - lived once in Western Sydney and hated it.
Jack - loves the club and standing in front of the cheer squad.
What's more GWS are living with the fairies if they think playing in front of crowds of just 7k in the middle of nowhere surburbia for a franchise with no history that won't play finals for 4-5 years compares with a traditional big 4 Victorian club playing in front of massive vocal support at the 'G most weeks that will play finals if not next year then definitely the year after. Sure Scully and Ward chased the cash but they were playing for small clubs with poor resources which were both heading south for a major rebuilding phase. In Scully's case he left a rabble of a club on and off-field.
If GWS want "payback" they can take Daniel Jackson. He's out of contract next year and will be a free agent ;). I know all us Tiger supporters would be devastated to see him poached :whistle :nope.
NooooOooOOOOOOooooOoo
Has to be next year or I'm ending this poo.
Hey I'm hoping it's next year :pray but we will still be one of the youngest sides out there in 2013 and our form in the second half of this season was still way off the mark to be serious and certain finals contenders next year. As I said in another thread, our best 22 footy can beat anybody on a day as we showed against Hawthorn and Sydney but our worst footy can still lose to anybody (winless GC). Until I see us not dish out the weekly crap footy we saw in the second half of this season because our back-up listed players were/are crap, I won't be counting our finals chickens before they hatch. I can understand the club going hard after Tyson. We need more classier (albeit still young) footballers like him to become genuine and long-lasting finals contenders over this next decade.
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Anderson and Dimwit working on a rule to prevent this from happening.
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That has to be the most laughable and delusional footy headline in a while and that's saying something.
Cotch - future captain, loves the club and as others have said had the chance previously to chase the $$$ if he was interested but knocked it back.
Lids - signed up to 2017. One club player.
Martin - lived once in Western Sydney and hated it.
Jack - loves the club and standing in front of the cheer squad.
What's more GWS are living with the fairies if they think playing in front of crowds of just 7k in the middle of nowhere surburbia for a franchise with no history that won't play finals for 4-5 years compares with a traditional big 4 Victorian club playing in front of massive vocal support at the 'G most weeks that will play finals if not next year then definitely the year after. Sure Scully and Ward chased the cash but they were playing for small clubs with poor resources which were both heading south for a major rebuilding phase. In Scully's case he left a rabble of a club on and off-field.
If GWS want "payback" they can take Daniel Jackson. He's out of contract next year and will be a free agent ;). I know all us Tiger supporters would be devastated to see him poached :whistle :nope.
NooooOooOOOOOOooooOoo
Has to be next year or I'm ending this poo.
Hey I'm hoping it's next year :pray but we will still be one of the youngest sides out there in 2013 and our form in the second half of this season was still way off the mark to be serious and certain finals contenders next year. As I said in another thread, our best 22 footy can beat anybody on a day as we showed against Hawthorn and Sydney but our worst footy can still lose to anybody (winless GC). Until I see us not dish out the weekly crap footy we saw in the second half of this season because our back-up listed players were/are crap, I won't be counting our finals chickens before they hatch. I can understand the club going hard after Tyson. We need more classier (albeit still young) footballers like him to become genuine and long-lasting finals contenders over this next decade.
Tyson + Chaplin + Knights + Tom + Dick + Harry = FINALS 2013!
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Anderson and Dimwit working on a rule to prevent this from happening.
Whilst this doesn't surprise, you know this how
Doubt it very much
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What position does Tyson play anyway???? If he is not ruck, back or centre then how would he fit into our club structure....JUST ASKING THE QUESTION........before the hounds come in. :thumbsup
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What position does Tyson play anyway???? If he is not ruck, back or centre then how would he fit into our club structure....JUST ASKING THE QUESTION........before the hounds come in. :thumbsup
He is a good sized midfielder who has both an inside and outside game. He is strong overhead too. We are still two class midfielders short from a rotation point of view. He would fill the void very well. And being a absolutely crazy tiger supporter is icing on the cake. A dead set gun we would be over the moon to have!
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What position does Tyson play anyway???? If he is not ruck, back or centre then how would he fit into our club structure....JUST ASKING THE QUESTION........before the hounds come in. :thumbsup
So you're making all sorts of opinions about us trading him, and you don't even know what type of player he is? :huh
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What position does Tyson play anyway???? If he is not ruck, back or centre then how would he fit into our club structure....JUST ASKING THE QUESTION........before the hounds come in. :thumbsup
So you're making all sorts of opinions about us trading him, and you don't even know what type of player he is? :huh
Go read my post again, I have not mentioned this blokes name once, I generalised saying I didn't want to give up pick 9 for top up players, I did not infer this guy is a top up player, it was a different comment. FFS get up earlier... :banghead
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What position does Tyson play anyway???? If he is not ruck, back or centre then how would he fit into our club structure....JUST ASKING THE QUESTION........before the hounds come in. :thumbsup
He is a good sized midfielder who has both an inside and outside game. He is strong overhead too. We are still two class midfielders short from a rotation point of view. He would fill the void very well. And being a absolutely crazy tiger supporter is icing on the cake. A dead set gun we would be over the moon to have!
Very good thank you, finally someone who can just answer a sipmle question.
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What position does Tyson play anyway???? If he is not ruck, back or centre then how would he fit into our club structure....JUST ASKING THE QUESTION........before the hounds come in. :thumbsup
Can never have too many good mids.
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What position does Tyson play anyway???? If he is not ruck, back or centre then how would he fit into our club structure....JUST ASKING THE QUESTION........before the hounds come in. :thumbsup
Can never have too many good mids.
Yes good point, with a full compliment next year including a fit Foley and with Tyson Lids, Martin and Cotchin could rest forward, resting and kicking about 3 each..
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If this club is seen by the players as being on the up, having the right people behind the scenes, having good structure and excellent facilities and we start playing finals then GWS has fact chance in hell of poaching our elite players such as Cotchin
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Tom Dyson - No. 29
DOB: 08/06/93
HT: 185cm
WT: 80Kgs
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Anderson and Dimwit working on a rule to prevent this from happening.
Apparently the AFL have already said it is possible and a club can trade a player after 1 year. :huh
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Tom Dyson - No. 29
DOB: 08/06/93
HT: 185cm
WT: 80Kgs
More hobbits.
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Tom Dyson - No. 29
DOB: 08/06/93
HT: 185cm
WT: 80Kgs
More hobbits.
But hobbits with skillz is good. Look what Frodo did with his ring! So if Hobbit has skillz, I can haz Hobbit! ;D
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Tom Dyson - No. 29
DOB: 08/06/93
HT: 185cm
WT: 80Kgs
More hobbits.
But hobbits with skillz is good. Look what Frodo did with his ring! So if Hobbit has skillz, I can haz Hobbit! ;D
Reece Conca is the ultimate hobbit.
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Anderson and Dimwit working on a rule to prevent this from happening.
Whilst this doesn't surprise, you know this how
Doubt it very much
I was semi joking with the post above. Have no evidence of it but you're right it wouldn't surprise in the pursuit of GWS's success.
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Tom Dyson - No. 29
DOB: 08/06/93
HT: 185cm
WT: 80Kgs
More hobbits.
But hobbits with skillz is good. Look what Frodo did with his ring! So if Hobbit has skillz, I can haz Hobbit! ;D
Reece Conca is the ultimate hobbit.
Mrakov, I think you are right!
(http://i48.tinypic.com/27ynxx4.jpg)
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Tom Dyson - No. 29
DOB: 08/06/93
HT: 185cm
WT: 80Kgs
More hobbits.
But hobbits with skillz is good. Look what Frodo did with his ring! So if Hobbit has skillz, I can haz Hobbit! ;D
Reece Conca is the ultimate hobbit.
Mrakov, I think you are right!
(http://i48.tinypic.com/27ynxx4.jpg)
Lmfaooooo :clapping
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:lol
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Tom Dyson - No. 29
DOB: 08/06/93
HT: 185cm
WT: 80Kgs
More hobbits.
But hobbits with skillz is good. Look what Frodo did with his ring! So if Hobbit has skillz, I can haz Hobbit! ;D
Reece Conca is the ultimate hobbit.
Mrakov, I think you are right!
(http://i48.tinypic.com/27ynxx4.jpg)
LMFAO!!! :lol :lol :lol Contender for post of the year! :clapping
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The bloke wins a car for best player in game.. gives it away.
Good luck gws :cheers
I'd give away a Hyundai too..
true but Jeeps have a habit of catching on fire.
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Anderson and Dimwit working on a rule to prevent this from happening.
wouldnt surprise strange they havent done something
earlier.
these 2 should be tied up in fed square so we throw crap on them.