One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 18, 2012, 03:25:07 PM
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Poll by request:
Would you swap picks 9 for picks 12 & 14?
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:laugh:
Much obliged OE! :bow
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Instantly
Dont think its close either
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In a heartbeat! :thumbsup
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Get it done, Tiges :clapping™
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In a heartbeat man
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Willy, they way this poll is growing I think it may be looking at the pol I posted in the trade rumours thread. ;D
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Get it done, Tiges :clapping™
:lol
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Willy, they way this poll is growing I think it may be looking at the pol I posted in the trade rumours thread. ;D
;D
(http://conservativehome.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451b31c69e20115704a228e970b-300wi)
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Every day of the week :dancing
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Yes, the more I think about the more this seems like a massive win for us. I wonder if GWS are seriously interested in this.
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Would come to close to being OER's most lop-sided poll ever
YES
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why would gws even entertain this idea. what do they gain?
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why would gws even entertain this idea. what do they gain?
We're including a book in the trade. It's called "How to stay out of legal trouble". The author is well known to us ;D
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:laugh:
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:shh
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Is this worth a pyramid?
:yep
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Is this worth a pyramid?
:yep
:yep :yep
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Is this worth a pyramid?
:yep
:yep :yep
:veryhappy :veryhappy :veryhappy pyromidia
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Abso bloody lutely....what a boost that would be
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Would come to close to being OER's most lop-sided poll ever
YES
Pretty close WP, and in reality, you would be swapping for 11 & 12 as Daniher is a given at 10?
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Why would this even be a possibility? Surely gws would never entertain this?
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Why would this even be a possibility? Surely gws would never entertain this?
They would if they didnt want the extra pick due to list numbers & they thought they might get their "man" @ 9
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Is this worth a pyramid?
:yep
:yep :yep
:veryhappy :veryhappy :veryhappy pyromidia
Geez Geez you can't make a Dookie pyramid unless the moment is deserving.
You'll get it banned again for christs sake!
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Why would this even be a possibility? Surely gws would never entertain this?
I know. seems pretty ridiculous. Has been bandied around though. This is from the other thread:
'From the Herald-Sun's Live Chat today:
Comment From Macca
Question is this. Will Richmond trade pick 9 to GWS for 12 & 13?
Gilbert Gardiner:
nice work Macca... finger on the pulse!! whispers floating about that Tigers warming to that idea... in reality, not much diff between 9 and 12-13 so to have two top-liners for the price of one...
Comment From rombosghost
Is Macca on the money? I like the look of that deal. Was it GWS' idea?
GIlbert Gardiner:
originally floated as part of a proposed Dom Tyson trade but word is Tigers warming to the idea.'
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Would do. GWS would only do if they only have 4 list spots. Thus upgrading their 4th and 5th pick for a better 4th one.
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On more thinking:
If we were hoping someone like Stringer to slip to 9, it would be wishful for them to slip more to 12. But on the other hand we could take a genuine soldier as well as a high risk/high reward like Garlett.
Taking out O'Meara, Crouch, Daniher and Viney turns to top ~10 into a pretty shallow dish. Maybe 9 vs 12 isn't really a big deal after all. This being probably our most important draft going forward as these players should be in our flag tilting squad in the future, a well picked 12, 13, 29, and 31 would set us right up and provide considerable depth going forward.
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Wouldn't mind trying to package 29/31 for a slightly higher pick around 20ish. Then take an x-factor type at pick 50 (or 40 if we can trade 50 & Graham for it)
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Is this worth a pyramid?
:yep
:yep :yep
:veryhappy :veryhappy :veryhappy pyromidia
Geez Geez you can't make a Dookie pyramid unless the moment is deserving.
You'll get it banned again for christs sake!
Yesss big man
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I'd say yes, as long as they pick best available with these picks and not go for diamond in the rough speculators and completely waste them like we have done in the past.
BEST AVAILABLE RICHMOND
Get it done tiges
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"tigers warming to it" :lol
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where do we sign?
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RFC should after careful thought, consideration and consultation with all key stakeholders - reluctantly accept & sign immediately. :clapping
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I recall hearing we were going to use only 4 picks in the ND and we were hoping these were inside the top 40.
If we get 40 for Graham, that gives us 9, 29, 31 and 40 inside the top 40.
If we get 12 and 13 for 9, we have 5 picks inside 40.
40 would be too valuable to waste, maybe we would trade one of 29, 31 or 40 if this did happen.
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I recall hearing we were going to use only 4 picks in the ND and we were hoping these were inside the top 40.
If we get 40 for Graham, that gives us 9, 29, 31 and 40 inside the top 40.
If we get 12 and 13 for 9, we have 5 picks inside 40.
40 would be too valuable to waste, maybe we would trade one of 29, 31 or 40 if this did happen.
Or maybe just delist another dud like White or Jackson ;D
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Just had an idea.
Pick 9 for 12 and 13.
Pick 12 for Collingwoods 17 and 18.
We then have 13, 17, 18, 29, 31 and 40 ;D
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Just had an idea.
Pick 9 for 12 and 13.
Pick 12 for Collingwoods 17 and 18.
We then have 13, 17, 18, 29, 31 and 40 ;D
<Insert tm here> :clapping
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With St Kilda get pick 13 as compensation for losing Goddard, if this trade were to go through it would be pick 9 for picks 12 & 14.
Does that make a difference to your thoughts?
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Yes my thoughts are I don't like compensation picks interferring with our draft order
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In a heartbeat I'd do that.
We could delist a few duds and use 5 picks in the Draft.
Move Newman onto the vets list and see what is available in the PSD.
segiT ti enod teG. :thumbsup
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Any pick inside the top 40 can be a good player and ought to be AFL standard at the least. Paul Chapman went at 31 but McGuane went at 36. I'd take the trade in a heartbeat and hope we don't stuff it up. This could be the making of Hardwicks time at Richmond.
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will never ever agree we trade out of top 10 picks.trade down not up people.
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I've got a feeling we're done. Hartley said we'll only be using 4 picks so if there was a real chance of this happening then why would we have bothered upgrading pick 50 to pick 40. Likewise GWS would only agree to such a trade if they planned to use just four picks themselves. They seem more interested in willing to trade out picks for senior AFL experienced players to play alongside their kids rather than just swapping picks.
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I've got a feeling we're done. Hartley said we'll only be using 4 picks so if there was a real chance of this happening then why would we have bothered upgrading pick 50 to pick 40. Likewise GWS would only agree to such a trade if they planned to use just four picks themselves. They seem more interested in willing to trade out picks for senior AFL experienced players to play alongside their kids rather than just swapping picks.
Jackson's experienced. :pray
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I've got a feeling we're done. Hartley said we'll only be using 4 picks so if there was a real chance of this happening then why would we have bothered upgrading pick 50 to pick 40. Likewise GWS would only agree to such a trade if they planned to use just four picks themselves. They seem more interested in willing to trade out picks for senior AFL experienced players to play alongside their kids rather than just swapping picks.
Jackson's experienced. :pray
It's not GWS that are interested in Jackson ;)
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stop being a jackstar wannabe and spill the beans, Danaog
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It's the aints. Especially after they failed to get every single other player they've targeted. :shh
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will never ever agree we trade out of top 10 picks.trade down not up people.
The quality is even and with Daniher it's only a 2 place drop. Depends who we like at pick 9 and if we think they'd last past GWS and Carlton. My fear is that I think Carlton would take Vlastuin who we are rumoured to want.
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stop being a jackstar wannabe and spill the beans, Danaog
St Kilda are apparentley interested in Jackson, pretty sure that's what Danaog is referring to al.
Also I would wait till he bumps his post first before calling him a JStar wannabe ;D ;D
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;D
it was just a wind up.
where does that rumour come from?
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Been floating around on another forum that Saints want one of our whipping boys IF other trades fall through. The joy on my face at every failed attempt they have had. ;D
Anyone seen Pies want to package their 3 picks together. (18, 19, 21)
If we got 12 & 14 could we put 14 up for 19 & 21?
Suns want 13 off Saints maybe 13 for Hickey & 25. Steal 25 off Saints for Jacko. Then package up all the late picks to get in front of Port as a big stuff u to the AFL for putting their picks first. ;D
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Been floating around on another forum that Saints want one of our whipping boys IF other trades fall through. The joy on my face at every failed attempt they have had. ;D
Anyone seen Pies want to package their 3 picks together. (18, 19, 21)
If we got 12 & 14 could we put 14 up for 19 & 21?
Suns want 13 off Saints maybe 13 for Hickey & 25. Steal 25 off Saints for Jacko. Then package up all the late picks to get in front of Port as a big stuff u to the AFL for putting their picks first. ;D
Sounds good to me.
Good luck pulling it off though.
:cheers
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Been floating around on another forum that Saints want one of our whipping boys IF other trades fall through. The joy on my face at every failed attempt they have had. ;D
Anyone seen Pies want to package their 3 picks together. (18, 19, 21)
If we got 12 & 14 could we put 14 up for 19 & 21?
Suns want 13 off Saints maybe 13 for Hickey & 25. Steal 25 off Saints for Jacko. Then package up all the late picks to get in front of Port as a big stuff u to the AFL for putting their picks first. ;D
Sounds good to me.
Good luck pulling it off though.
:cheers
;D
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Surely the Ainters wouldn't take another of our duds off our hands: patto, fiona, that one game wonder that I have already forgotten his name
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Surely the Ainters wouldn't take another of our duds off our hands: patto, fiona, that one game wonder that I have already forgotten his name
Adelaide keep coming back for more. :thumbsup
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Wacko Jacko won't go
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Wacko Jacko won't go
But St Kilda's 120 year culture of failure needs a real off field go getter like JAko to prolong his AFL career for another 5-7 years.
Win for us, win for Jako, status quo for the aints. :lol :rollin :lol
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Every day of the week :dancing
^ ditto...plus the dancing emoticon really made me smile :)
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Wacko Jacko won't go
But St Kilda's 120 year culture of failure needs a real off field go getter like JAko to prolong his AFL career for another 5-7 years.
Win for us, win for Jako, status quo for the aints. :lol :rollin :lol
Hardick loves him
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Surely the Ainters wouldn't take another of our duds off our hands: patto, fiona, that one game wonder that I have already forgotten his name
Justin Plapp?
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It's the aints. Especially after they failed to get every single other player they've targeted. :shh
Caddy, Jacobs, Stevens have all not picked the Saints as where they want to go. Jackson was 4th on the Saints wish-list. ;D
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Would be amazing if we traded Jackson for anything!
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Would we take a used prison mattress and some brut 33?
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Surely the Ainters wouldn't take another of our duds off our hands: patto, fiona, that one game wonder that I have already forgotten his name
Justin Plapp?
Nah Polo had a memory lapse had to look at the 2009 list, geez it had some crap on there btw
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Trade Jackson for a used connie
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:pray
Fisher > GWS
Pick 2 > Aints
Pick 9 and Jacko > Saints
Pick 2 > Tigers
:pray :clapping :pray
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Trade Jackson for a used connie
Nah I wouldn't take Milne
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It's the aints. Especially after they failed to get every single other player they've targeted. :shh
Caddy, Jacobs, Stevens have all not picked the Saints as where they want to go. Jackson was 4th on the Saints wish-list. ;D
Knowing our luck they'll offer pick 13 and he won't want to go. >:(
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Trade Jackson for a used connie
Nah I wouldn't take Milne
:clapping
Lulzzzz
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:pray
Fisher > GWS
Pick 2 > Aints
Pick 9 and Jacko > Saints
Pick 2 > Tigers
:pray :clapping :pray
lol better put a few more of these in there :pray :pray
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:pray
Fisher > GWS
Pick 2 > Aints
Pick 9 and Jacko > Saints
Pick 2 > Tigers
:pray :clapping :pray
lol better put a few more of these in there :pray :pray
:lol
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Would be amazing if we traded Jackson for anything!
one rumor is straight swap for clint jones i reckon i would jump at that. jones is actually a very affective run with player unlike jacko.
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Jones is a mad dog.
Massive upgrade on jacko
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Jones can't kick but neither can Jackson. Jones is a better tagger and he can handball. Makes him better than Jacko by default
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Jones can't kick but neither can Jackson. Jones is a better tagger and he can handball. Makes him better than Jacko by default
But Jacko is a better quality of poo kick than Jones. :shh
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Someone asked about this swap in the Herald-Sun live chat today:
Herald-Sun's reply:
keeps bobbing up...how it will be used and who for remains a mystery.
GWS hording all the top picks now because next year, like Gold Coast now, they will need to trim the list back... they'll want to get plenty of talent through the gates, develop them and use them to their advantage down the track.
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With GWS trading for pick 29 you would think they plan to use picks 1,2,3,12,14 and 29.
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Or 1 2 3 9 & 29
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Will prob look at packaging it up in some other deal
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still no for me. im hoping one of three will still be there at 9 but i would love a pick around 25. shaw kpf, mcbean ruck, smith kpd all meet tall needs and one should be there at this pick. that would leave 32 and 34 to target more mids and fix the mid depth once and for all.
i would also like a pick at 50 if we dont get a pick around 25. we should get a decent crack around 50 at a ruckman, kpd, or kpf.
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Shaw won't be there at 25.
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This swap of picks was never going to happen as Brisbane tried the same thing with their pick 8 but GWS didn't want to give up picks 12 & 14.
The only other options that we considered at different times were a swap of picks with GWS who were interested in our Pick 8. Had we been able to get an agreement on a deal that involved the GWS' Picks 12 and 14 coming to us for Pick 8 and 24, we would have seriously considered it but GWS didn't want to give up those positions. Similarly, the options put to us by GWS were not attractive enough for us to forfeit Pick 8.
http://m.afl.com.au/news.htm?action=handleNewsArticleById&id=150809