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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: the claw on December 26, 2012, 08:47:25 PM
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Moloney would give us a better chance to play finals. we had the chance to go after moloney and decided not too.
it couldnt be an age thing moloney is 28 29 in january. we took both stephenson who is older and edwards same age plus a few 26 yr olds as well. Why were we not interested in the best mid available in the entire trade f/a period.
for me moloney was a monty for us. definately a starting 22 player and an ideal foil for foley. if foley doesnt come up or continues to be injured he would replace him entirely..he would also provide cover if tuck went down.
he is a better and more proven player than both knights and lonergan and like those two would have cost us nothing as far as picks go.
to be honest id be happy to have knights lonergan and moloney and one or two others like kyle martin and sam dwyer. it was doable very doable at little cost.
would have been easy to cut matt white or mcguane or jackson all of whom were out of contract to make way for moloney.
its ironic we have taken a few ex melborne players now but we probably ignored the best performed of them all.
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The big Clawski :clapping
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What a bloody joke, prob lead the pre season pee up contest. Love hos post season booze up pics in Bali with the boys.
LoL claw, we d be a better chance if we lured ben cousins out of retirement and tried to convert danny cipriani to aussie rules :lol
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What a bloody joke, prob lead the pre season pee up contest. Love hos post season booze up pics in Bali with the boys.
LoL claw, we d be a better chance if we lured ben cousins out of retirement and tried to convert danny cipriani to aussie rules :lol
we will get to see just what we ignored when we play brisbane this yr wont we. you stick with ya choir boys bo, and all those older blokes still trying to establish if they can play at the level.
me i will stick with blokes who can actually play footy. after all at the end of the day at a footy club that is all that really matters what they do in the post season i couldnt give a stuff about.
by the way that druggie cousins that bad bad influence lol, on younger players. he was pretty good for us if i remember right. but hey he could play a bit.
ya know what we could do worse bringing ben out of retirement. hed be better than most of the choir boys, you know good blokes who cant play you back in.
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Moloney had issues with attitude and demanded a minimum 2 year deal. The only guy we got with issues was Edwards but that was for just one year. Even his price was higher than Edwards.
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There is simply not nearly enough detail in the OP to weigh up the validity of the opinion.
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What a bloody joke, prob lead the pre season pee up contest. Love hos post season booze up pics in Bali with the boys.
LoL claw, we d be a better chance if we lured ben cousins out of retirement and tried to convert danny cipriani to aussie rules :lol
we will get to see just what we ignored when we play brisbane this yr wont we. you stick with ya choir boys bo, and all those older blokes still trying to establish if they can play at the level.
me i will stick with blokes who can actually play footy. after all at the end of the day at a footy club that is all that really matters what they do in the post season i couldnt give a stuff about.
by the way that druggie cousins that bad bad influence lol, on younger players. he was pretty good for us if i remember right. but hey he could play a bit.
ya know what we could do worse bringing ben out of retirement. hed be better than most of the choir boys, you know good blokes who cant play you back in.
Well its a footy club mate not alcoholics anonymous, we lost nothing leaving this bum slip through to the keeper :shh
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Moloney had issues with attitude and demanded a minimum 2 year deal. The only guy we got with issues was Edwards but that was for just one year. Even his price was higher than Edwards.
just about every player at melbourne had issues this yr. didnt seem to be any issues in 09 10 and 11 when he was fit and carving up most sides pretty regularl including killing us..
clearly a lot had had enough of what had been going on in the place not just this yr but previous yrs.
based on performance at 28 moloney was is worth a two yr contract.
oh can you tell me what issues aaron edwards has? i personally dont see any. as i have said if you want to hang edwards for getting peeed in the off season you had better be consistent and be prepared to hang probably 99% of all players.
without a doubt most get peeed, most act the fool, some even get into trouble with the law. but by and large most of what goes on is swept under the carpet and controlled firstly by the clubs and then by the afl your kidding yourself if you think differently.we do it in society as well and most walks of life seems every one has to be seen to be doing the right thing regardless of what the reality is.
i dont have a problem with edwards primarily because he hasnt done much wrong other than live up to somebody elses opinion on how he should behave. nope im all for him because despite the do gooders hes a good bloke and he can play a bit. same goes for moloney.
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I'd suggest to learn to live with the fact we didn't get Moloney, Kyle or anyone else you have suggested. We have heard your opinion loud and clear. There is no need to repeat it over and over. Just sit back, relax and wait for the new season before you get your claws out to criticize the club again. The club has made a decision. We can see if it was the correct one or not with he results it obtains. I don't agree with all their choices either but as a supporter my job is to back my team now.
Post mortems will inevitably happen in good time.
:gotigers
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What a bloody joke, prob lead the pre season pee up contest. Love hos post season booze up pics in Bali with the boys.
LoL claw, we d be a better chance if we lured ben cousins out of retirement and tried to convert danny cipriani to aussie rules :lol
we will get to see just what we ignored when we play brisbane this yr wont we. you stick with ya choir boys bo, and all those older blokes still trying to establish if they can play at the level.
me i will stick with blokes who can actually play footy. after all at the end of the day at a footy club that is all that really matters what they do in the post season i couldnt give a stuff about.
by the way that druggie cousins that bad bad influence lol, on younger players. he was pretty good for us if i remember right. but hey he could play a bit.
ya know what we could do worse bringing ben out of retirement. hed be better than most of the choir boys, you know good blokes who cant play you back in.
Well its a footy club mate not alcoholics anonymous, we lost nothing leaving this bum slip through to the keeper :shh
is that it bo? geez at some stage on this site you will have to address what is being said. but wait thats not how you go about it is it. oh well its your credability going down the gurgler.
ya know that alcoholic bum has played afl for 10 yrs and when not injured managed to play some pretty good footy. hmm if moloneys a bum what are the numerous richmond players we have. oh but thats right you dont want to go near his footy worth. nope we dont want to talk about a bloke who at the very least kicks our sorry arses on the footy field nope lets keep matt white hes a good bloke hhhaaarrrrggghhh.
you should join a charitable organisation bo and leave the reality to others. wait a minute!!!!! you belong to one its called the richmond footy club where we resign bums for yrs on end and recruit underperformers over proven players. oooops sorry drifting onto footy again cant go there can we.
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Agree with the big Clawski, Moloneski was better than Lerrnergern
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I'd suggest to learn to live with the fact we didn't get Moloney, Kyle or anyone else you have suggested. We have heard your opinion loud and clear. There is no need to repeat it over and over. Just sit back, relax and wait for the new season before you get your claws out to criticize the club again. The club has made a decision. We can see if it was the correct one or not with he results it obtains. I don't agree with all their choices either but as a supporter my job is to back my team now.
Post mortems will inevitably happen in good time.
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why cant i repeat it over and over you can congratulate them over and over cant you.
when we actually achieve something i may relax and stop looking with a critical eye. which by the way is asking could we do and have done better nothing more nothing less.
your right the club has made a decision but hey lets not question that decision.
hmm once again im forced to say it we finished 12th but your sayinmg we shouldnt question what they do. let them actually prove something before we laud them.its a footy club, the bottom line is where we finish and what we achieve.
after 30 yrs of abject failure. as a supporter who makes decent contributions to the club in more ways than one.
i see it my duty we be the best we can anything less is unacceptable.
now the club has said as much themselves we need mids and experience yet we ignored the best available mid based on performance in the trade and f/a period. we didnt even look at him that is negligent imo. im about winning games i have to ask what is the rfc about seems being seen to do the right thing is more important.
just to finish you can expect many more threads from me along similar lines. geez orren stephenson why not stefan martin who also went in a melborne fire sale almost. whos the better performed and who has an upside, whos more than just an insurance policy. yep craig cameron really fixed our ruck tocks with stephenson and mcbean oh dear.
what is it i cop dont question them claw just pour your money and loyalty in.
we have two spots we need to fill ones list manager and the other is likely head recruiter that is if we use performance as the guide over the last 6 and 8 yrs.
you wanna trust em fine. me i wouldnt trust em as far as i can kick em. if they dont want to be criticised they better get better at what they do.
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Sounds like Santa didn't come to cwawy wawy :shh
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Sounds like Santa didn't come to cwawy wawy :shh
santa. who the eff is santa.
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Sounds like Santa didn't come to cwawy wawy :shh
santa. who the eff is santa.
The big Clawski :clapping
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Moloney? The same one who struggled at Melbourne this year?
Pass.
At least Lonergan will only cost small dime for a year before being delisted.
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What a bloody joke, prob lead the pre season pee up contest. Love hos post season booze up pics in Bali with the boys.
LoL claw, we d be a better chance if we lured ben cousins out of retirement and tried to convert danny cipriani to aussie rules :lol
we will get to see just what we ignored when we play brisbane this yr wont we.
Ahh the good old wait to we play Brisbane line, I am surprised you didnt make the call they are going to play finals this year.
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we got one baked potato for one one year but claw wants to get the roast potato for two years instead.
list management at its best.
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What a bloody joke, prob lead the pre season pee up contest. Love hos post season booze up pics in Bali with the boys.
LoL claw, we d be a better chance if we lured ben cousins out of retirement and tried to convert danny cipriani to aussie rules :lol
we will get to see just what we ignored when we play brisbane this yr wont we.
Ahh the good old wait to we play Brisbane line, I am surprised you didnt make the call they are going to play finals this year.
id say they have just as much chance as us of making finals id say moloney gives them a better chance.but wait we took lonergan so we did better it seems lol.
seems no one here is prepared to ask could and should we have done better than what we did seems everyone thinks we couldnt.
it must be wonderful living in ignorant bliss all the time.
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Moloney was only interested in going to the Lions so it's all moot
Like asking why we didn't pick up Ablett
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Moloney was only interested in going to the Lions so it's all moot
Like asking why we didn't pick up Ablett
The reason is that Brisbane were the only team willing to pay him 700k over 2 years.
Not sure how Maloney an be compared to lonergan, one is a rookie on 40 k a year and the other has a two year contract worth 750k over 2 years. Might as well say we should have got Goddard instead of lonergan:
The simple fact is we took senior depth on mInimim money
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correct
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I'm not a fan of us picking up Lonergan even just as a rookie (VFL standard player) but if we had picked up Moloney at 29 on our senior list we would've been accused of topping up again especially at 700k for 2 years. I would've preferred us to be more aggressive during the trade period and offloaded Jacko say to score another early-ish (top 20) pick. The Club has admitted that only 3 kids they were interested in were still around by the time our second pick #32 came up.
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Jackson for a top 20 pick LMFAO
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Moloney? The same one who struggled at Melbourne this year?
Pass.
At least Lonergan will only cost small dime for a year before being delisted.
pay peanuts get monkeys. im happy to pay a fair income to a decent player.moloney is more than decent.
lol so you think no other player struggled this yr at other clubs. geez with what happened at melbourne this yr Geez h Geez himself would have struggled.
but hey lets ignore that, lets ignore what the player has done previously, it was plain moloney wanted out of the place.easier to ignore those things easier to not focus on footy ability after all if you do focus on em you wont have an argument.
are you seriously suggesting to me that he cant play id love to see what you think about the many hacks we have then. he would be in our top 10 easily imo.but thats typical of posters every other player at other clubs are hacks.
if his age was no barrier after all we took a 31 yr old and a 28 yr old why would you not go after the best mature mid available to you. they did say we desperately need mids didnt they.
i also have to ask who was the best mature ruckman available not orren stephenson surely. have we now got adequate midfield depth and quality hmm i sure dont think so. are our ruck stocks in good shape lol clearly not. do we have adequate numbers of tall forwards nope again. geez people telling me to not question what goes on when clearly more of us should be.
in total we cleaned out 12 players all i have suggested is we do 2 more and actually take 7 mature players and 7 aged 22 or less.
for me an intake of
vlastuin 18 yo mid has the size to play now.
mcintosh 18yo tall defender
mcbean 18 yo ruckman long term.
mcdonough 18 yo for/mid could possibly play now be nice to have some class among the sml forwards.
howson 18 yo tall forward will take time but we are short of tall forwards.
hannath 21 yo ruckman could play afl now if needed.
k martin 22 yo mid ready to go
s lonergan 24 yo mid not my cup of tea but ready to go we could have taken him with our last pick.
chaplin 26yo kpd needed big body down back.
knights 26yo for/mid needed mid and forard.
s martin 26yo ruck/def ready to go could play as the 2nd ruckman allowing vickery to play solely as a forward and in a kp.
s dwyer 26yo mid best performed state league player for yrs ready to play and a better option than many we have.
moloney 28yo mid would be a top 10 player with us.
edwards 28yo medium sized forward have to ask how many like him do we have? simple answer is none well not ready to go anyway.
we were in a position to take every one of these players or at least have a crack at them.some we took im just trying to show how we could have easily improved on what we did.
our rucks would look like
maric, martin, hannath, mcbean. geez 4 ruckmen.
our genuine mids would go
arnot, knights, moloney, dwyer, k martin, lonergan,vlastuin, conca, cotchin,deledio,ellis, foley, grigg, helbig, jackson, martin,tuck, a total of 17 with a good spread of experience age and games played.
our tall forwards would go
howson, vickery,elton, riewoldt, one of astbury or griffiths if not both. thats 5 tall forwards
our tall defenders would go
chaplin, darrou, grimes,rance, mcintosh one of astbury griffiths but it seems both are being groomed as backmen. that 6 tall defenders.
our specialist sml/med flankers both for and backs would go
a edwards, s edwards, ohanlon, batchelor, houli, king, nahas, mcdonough, morris, dea, newman, verrier, thats 12 hopefully some can become a part of rotations.
finally none of this is hindsight at some stage before each draft and during it i called for most of these players to be taken. ive gone along with the clubs nd picks to save arguments and i have gone along with lonergan and a few others as well. what im saying is we could have done a lot more and imo better.
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Moloney was only interested in going to the Lions so it's all moot
Like asking why we didn't pick up Ablett
The reason is that Brisbane were the only team willing to pay him 700k over 2 years.
Not sure how Maloney an be compared to lonergan, one is a rookie on 40 k a year and the other has a two year contract worth 750k over 2 years. Might as well say we should have got Goddard instead of lonergan:
The simple fact is we took senior depth on mInimim money
so you dont want to pay what would be close to the average wage for a mature proven afl player. hmm strange.i wonder how much jacksons getting or mcguane or matt white id rather pay moloney what is a fair wage than pay those hacks a nickle.
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I don't want to pay 375k a year for a plodder with as many deficiencies in his game as Moloney, no
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Use some bloody punctuation, claw.
It's not hard.
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Stephan Martin would have cost us a Draft Pick.Unlike the big S who cost us nothing.BTW i swear we drafted a couple of Talls/Ruckman over the past few years.Ever heard of Free Agency Claw?Use that for a mature ruckman if need to.And yes that costs us nothing.
:shh
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I have heard about the over flowing hamburger theory, but what the eff is this; the over flowing roast theory with extra spuds.
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sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker
poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh
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sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker
poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh
:lol
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There is simply not nearly enough detail in the OP to weigh up the validity of the opinion.
I see what you tried to do there!
Oh and Moloneys a spud.
P.S Claw, can you tell us what type of player we have to many of?
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sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker
poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh
:lol
That's good... TOO good >:(
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sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker
poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh
Standing applause :clapping
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Stephan Martin would have cost us a Draft Pick.Unlike the big S who cost us nothing.BTW i swear we drafted a couple of Talls/Ruckman over the past few years.Ever heard of Free Agency Claw?Use that for a mature ruckman if need to.And yes that costs us nothing.
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stefan martin cost exactly what again? i suppose you lot are going to try and tell me stephenson is a better option. whats going on here? are we trying to improve the list or are we just going thru the motions.
maric martin hannath and mcbean has to be better than maric derickx and mcbean.
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Moloney was only interested in going to the Lions so it's all moot
Like asking why we didn't pick up Ablett
lol not a skerrick of truth in that in fact its ignorance at its best.
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I don't want to pay 375k a year for a plodder with as many deficiencies in his game as Moloney, no
oh hes a plodder. give me more plodders then. the average income of an afl player is 280 k if i remember correctly.again i ask if you think moloney a plodder what do you call a shedload of our players. as stated he would be a top 10 player with us. everytime this bloke plays us he literally kills us but hey you stick with jacko and white and all the other hacks.
you know a bit about moloney it seems. how about you tell us exactly what moloneys weaknesses are.you talk about em but never mention them.and i dont mean in a pee take at me be honest with yourself for once.
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sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker
poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh
i have to say well done very good pee take. but let me give some advice. it works better if theres a hint of fact to it.nice try but keep working on it.
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I don't want to pay 375k a year for a plodder with as many deficiencies in his game as Moloney, no
oh hes a plodder. give me more plodders then. the average income of an afl player is 280 k if i remember correctly.again i ask if you think moloney a plodder what do you call a shedload of our players. as stated he would be a top 10 player with us. everytime this bloke plays us he literally kills us but hey you stick with jacko and white and all the other hacks.
you know a bit about moloney it seems. how about you tell us exactly what moloneys weaknesses are.you talk about em but never mention them.and i dont mean in a pee take at me be honest with yourself for once.
But we've got plenty according to you :-*
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sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker
poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh
Got that about right Gerks. :thumbsup
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moloney's weaknesses are there for all to see, another glass half full type, one good year and lol it's up on a pedestal
trying to get rid of plodders not add more good old richmond
Got that about right Gerks. :thumbsup
yeah i thought so
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sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker
poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh
i have to say well done very good pee take. but let me give some advice. it works better if theres a hint of fact to it.nice try but keep working on it.
But if he included facts it wouldnt've been a pisstake of you claws. ;)
Personally I have full confidence in the club and the way they are traveling at the moment, and our recruiting department has been getting it more right than wrong over the last couple of seasons.
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Moloney has many other "issues" that most clubs know about, hence why no one was interested.
Claw, you seem to think you know a lot but unfortunately you don't like many on these boards. The difference is that you are more pointed with your criticisms and come across as aggressive and very negative. Ah well, we all accept free speech.
Also you might want to quote the median wage rather than the average or even the mode. That would give us a far better idea of what footballers are generally paid. Despite there being a reasonable number of players, the population is far too small to be quoting averages as they would be skewed by the high paid players.
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Stephan Martin would have cost us a Draft Pick.Unlike the big S who cost us nothing.BTW i swear we drafted a couple of Talls/Ruckman over the past few years.Ever heard of Free Agency Claw?Use that for a mature ruckman if need to.And yes that costs us nothing.
:shh
stefan martin cost exactly what again? i suppose you lot are going to try and tell me stephenson is a better option. whats going on here? are we trying to improve the list or are we just going thru the motions.
maric martin hannath and mcbean has to be better than maric derickx and mcbean.
Went for picks 53 and 73.Geez he must be highly rated.Put it into context we got what pick 42 for Graham? :lol :lol :lol
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moloney's weaknesses are there for all to see, another glass half full type, one good year and lol it's up on a pedestal
trying to get rid of plodders not add more good old richmond
Got that about right Gerks. :thumbsup
yeah i thought so
hhhaaarrrrggggghhhhh delusional as usual. ;)
just assume i cant see his weaknesses. have the balls to list his weaknesses after all your the one potting him.
ya know i can honestly say when i have a go at our players i make it very clear why. go look at the rance thread for example. blanket statements dont cut it with me usually its an attempt to cover up ignorance. cmon have the courage to list what you think are his weaknesses. im happy to list what hes done well.
lol only one good yr eh. that sort of says just how much you have looked at moloney.you should at least do some homework in this area before making such ill informed comments.
just a little heads up.
in the 4 yrs prior to this yr, which i agree 2012 was a poor yr but good reasons why. moloney was very good indeed. every bit as good as foley when fit, and had almost as much injury in 06 07 with a groin that in the end had to be operated on and 08 shoulder.. he manged just 25 games in those 3 yrs. but hey from now on when criticising our players i wont be letting injury be an excuse. lets cut foley hes a hack and done nothing for how many yrs.
in those yrs 08 only played 8 games in the first half of the yr due to busting his shoulder and missing the rest of the yr, 09 10 11 fully fit hes averaged 24 possesions a game so hes certainly managed to find the ball both inside and out . his defensive pressure and workrate is shown by the fact he layed close to 5 tackles a game in that time frame so he not only got the ball he worked damn hard with out it. he uses the ball well and he goes and gets it. contested possesion na we dont want players who do that lol. makes good decisions and is as tough as nails.may not be the quickest bloke going around but hes not slow. he not only has good hands in close but can get out on his own. that will do for starters.
while your listing all those weaknesses how about you tell us which mids we have that are better than moloney atm. after all the club has said we need more mids.
all i have asked is why did we not go after moloney who without doubt was the best mature mid availble to any club in the f/a trade period.
i have asked why not when we have shown a preparedness to take 5 mature players aged between 24 and 31. so age definately was not a factor. was a two yr contract unreasonable hell no. is his contract unreasonable reportedly 350k a season definately not. not when the average contract is close to 300k a season it could be more. was attitude a problem well we took edwards so they cant have been too worried about attitude. we took knights who has come off some very quite yrs yet moloney has only really had one quite yr that being 2012 at a club he clearly no longer wanted to be at.
i ask why not when they themselves have constantly said we need decent mids. but apparently moloney is a hack talk about delusional and blinkered. hes not a richmond player he must be no good. the club didnt go after him he must be no good. thats exactly how you defenders of all things richmond come across.
i ask these things because imo they did not do enough to fix the ruck problems, we have tall forward problems and didnt take one tall forward who like ruckmen take time to develop,
we have not gone close to addressing the dearth of midfielders in particular. yet finals are the goal or arent they. hence i ask could we have done better and should we have done better.
its the off season, just after all drafts have finished. now should be the time to discuss what we have done and how well we have done.
now is the time to ask why or why not.
but hey lets not have threads that actually mean we may have to question what they have done. nope we cant have that.
its the same every yr the same people defending everything and anything unquestioningly.
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is maloney a genuine mid
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he's a genuine plodding journeyman that plays for brisbane
is there another trade period before the season starts that i'm not aware of?
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ya know i can honestly say when i have a go at our players i make it very clear why. go look at the rance thread for example. blanket statements dont cut it with me usually its an attempt to cover up ignorance. cmon have the courage to list what you think are his weaknesses. im happy to list what hes done well.
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sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker
poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh
didn't read the rest of your post
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ya know i can honestly say when i have a go at our players i make it very clear why. go look at the rance thread for example. blanket statements dont cut it with me usually its an attempt to cover up ignorance. cmon have the courage to list what you think are his weaknesses. im happy to list what hes done well.
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sheesh let's look at moloney too slow as one sided as they come disposal is not afl standard is extremely poor defensively unable to follow instruction has a poor attitude in fact there is not much going for this guy he's old lacks durability wants a serious pay packet sheesh its no wonder no clubs wanted him not his own not gws or gc who have money to burn none of the successful clubs but I guess someone is a sucker
poo version of tuck on massive dollars and people wonder why we are going backwards with cameron in charge sheesh
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hhhaaarrrggghhhhh hhhhaaaarrrgggghhh hhhhaaaarrrrggggghhhh thanks for confirming to everyone you have nfi.its funny how a so called footy follower can be so ignorant.
can i suggest with that sort of ignorance you stay away from discussing players you wont look so freakin silly if you do.
your stupidity will probably mean i wont be reading anymore of your posts not worth wasting my time. ;)
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blanket statements dont cut it with me usually its an attempt to cover up ignorance.
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Moloney had issues with attitude and demanded a minimum 2 year deal. The only guy we got with issues was Edwards but that was for just one year. Even his price was higher than Edwards.
oh can you tell me what issues aaron edwards has? i personally dont see any. as i have said if you want to hang edwards for getting peeed in the off season you had better be consistent and be prepared to hang probably 99% of all players.
without a doubt most get peeed, most act the fool, some even get into trouble with the law. but by and large most of what goes on is swept under the carpet and controlled firstly by the clubs and then by the afl your kidding yourself if you think differently.we do it in society as well and most walks of life seems every one has to be seen to be doing the right thing regardless of what the reality is.
i dont have a problem with edwards primarily because he hasnt done much wrong other than live up to somebody elses opinion on how he should behave. nope im all for him because despite the do gooders hes a good bloke and he can play a bit. same goes for moloney.
I'm still trying to get my head around this gold.
Firstly "lockup" has had indiscretions at 3 clubs.
West coast got rid of him as did the Kangaroos ( after numerous problems)
But let's not let facts get in the way of Claws argument.
Secondly he was so valuable to north that his last game was a thrashing to the dawks. They got rid of him for a very late pick in the draft. Very valuable commodity indeed.
Claw also states that "most" players get peeed and act foolish or get locked up.
Haven't seen this or read this of Cotchin, Deledio, Rance, Foley, or MOST players on our list let alone the entire AFL. But its apparently fact because Claw says so.
Well done Claw! :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Moloney had issues with attitude and demanded a minimum 2 year deal. The only guy we got with issues was Edwards but that was for just one year. Even his price was higher than Edwards.
oh can you tell me what issues aaron edwards has? i personally dont see any. as i have said if you want to hang edwards for getting peeed in the off season you had better be consistent and be prepared to hang probably 99% of all players.
without a doubt most get peeed, most act the fool, some even get into trouble with the law. but by and large most of what goes on is swept under the carpet and controlled firstly by the clubs and then by the afl your kidding yourself if you think differently.we do it in society as well and most walks of life seems every one has to be seen to be doing the right thing regardless of what the reality is.
i dont have a problem with edwards primarily because he hasnt done much wrong other than live up to somebody elses opinion on how he should behave. nope im all for him because despite the do gooders hes a good bloke and he can play a bit. same goes for moloney.
I'm still trying to get my head around this gold.
yes i can see you have problems with basic logic, common sense and find reality and real life challenging.
i think i asked this before are you 10yrs of age. to be so lacking in such life skills one would think so. only a 10 yr old could be so naieve.
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