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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tigtuff12 on December 27, 2012, 08:41:52 AM
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In recent seasons we seem to have carried the weight of expectation into round 1 & have repeatedly come up short. That has the potential to change this year with the Blues coming off an ordinary year and having appointed Mick Malthouse not only will their own club/supporters be expecting big things but the football world will have their eyes on Carlton to see if they adapt tot he new coach & his game plan.
With that in mind, we'll also be under focus as many punters/experts have predicted that we need to make finals & this is the perfect opportunity for us to kick start our 2013 campaign in a positive manner. Finally breaking the round one hoodoo could set us up for a big year and get confidence sky rocketing - another loss (especially a close one) could/would be heart breaking.
So do we think that with our off season recruits and another preseason into the young fellers that we are ready to step up and announce ourselves to the comp by beating the old foe?
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This is our best chance for 5 years. The Blues match up well on us usally so it won't be easy. Would love to beat them finally. A narrow loss wouldn't be the end of the world though. They are our toughest opponent and if we match them, that will be a good sign for 2013. A win would explode our membership sales ;D
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Cant wait to see the team selection for this game!
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Will and must!
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If both sides are at full strength we will struggle to win. Need Martin, lids and Cotch to have blinders to have a chance. Jack needs to pull a finger out too!
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If both sides are at full strength we will struggle to win. Need Martin, lids and Cotch to have blinders to have a chance. Jack needs to pull a finger out too!
Struggle??? Geezus, have we improved at all??
We have a better centre line, better forwards and a better team, bigger, stronger and fitter than last year. This is a must win...NE ;D
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Voted no
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If both sides are at full strength we will struggle to win. Need Martin, lids and Cotch to have blinders to have a chance. Jack needs to pull a finger out too!
Struggle??? Geezus, have we improved at all??
We have a better centre line, better forwards and a better team, bigger, stronger and fitter than last year. This is a must win...NE ;D
Midfields are pretty equal. We just need to match their intensity
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We firstly can't afford to have anymore of those one costly 'dead' quarter per game or even "10 minute patches" as Dimma calls them where we go totally to sleep, our intensity drops off and the opposition slam on a bag of goals in a short period.
To beat Carlton we'll need our lesser likes to step up so all is not left to Cotch, Lids and Jack to try and get us across the line. Round 1 this year, despite being outclassed for periods of the game, we were able to stay with Carlton to midway through the last quarter before we ran out of legs with too much left to too few and we got blown away in the final 10 minutes of the match. That's why we'll need a few of our 3-4 year youngsters to have breakout seasons along with our experienced types not falling away so we can spread the workload across our whole 22. In the past Carlton's second tier group have been far superior to ours. While our attention is on their A-graders Judd, Murphy and co., guys like Scotland, Simpson, Robinson & Carrazzo have hurt us big time through the middle of the ground while Waite always has his one-to-two good games per game against us :banghead. Even a giant spud like Hampson got under our guard and kicked 3 goals :scream.
The second meeting later on the year was a terrible game and so we can't judge anything from that. Both sides had a number of their better players out and second-rate spuds in :help and so both did their best to lose the game and we ended up being just a fraction better at it :P :scream.
At this stage Carlton will go into the round 1 game as favourites. The only way we'll get respect and prove everyone else wrong is to win.
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If both sides are at full strength we will struggle to win. Need Martin, lids and Cotch to have blinders to have a chance. Jack needs to pull a finger out too!
Struggle??? Geezus, have we improved at all??
We have a better centre line, better forwards and a better team, bigger, stronger and fitter than last year. This is a must win...NE ;D
They are a year or two ahead of us in development. I hope I am wrong though! Also the new coach factor in their first game is against us.
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We will see :rollin :rollin
:santa :santa :police: :police:
;D
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If both sides are at full strength we will struggle to win. Need Martin, lids and Cotch to have blinders to have a chance. Jack needs to pull a finger out too!
Struggle??? Geezus, have we improved at all??
We have a better centre line, better forwards and a better team, bigger, stronger and fitter than last year. This is a must win...NE ;D
They are a year or two ahead of us in development. I hope I am wrong though! Also the new coach factor in their first game is against us.
They've only got 3 good players
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No, were gunna get smashed
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agree with MT that we need to improve drastically on those "lapses" that have seen us fall away for 10 - 15 mins...those proved fatal in many of the close losses we had last season...hopefully the focus will be more on the Blues and how they fare under Malthouse and allow us to sneak under the guard slightly - that being said though, these are the games we need to win to make finals a) for our own belief and equally as important b) it's not just the 4 points you win yourself, it's the 4 points your opponent (who we'll be competing for finals spots with) doesn't get
i think we've got some more upside with a few new faces & hopefully the further development of some of our youngsters...yes, the Blues are a few years more advanced than us, but you really know what you are going to get with their side (as far as players and output - they will obviously have a slightly different game plan).
going in as confident as I have in a long time....
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Sadly voted no :'(
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We will see :rollin :rollin
:santa :santa :police: :police:
;D
3 years of your on the fence comments for this game, thought you were growing a set for next year!
You have said that this is the year to play finals for us, if so then this is a must win game and we have the team to do it!
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we will cane them as they dick up an down the boundary line playing malthouse ball
six goal win would be a disappoomemt for mine
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We will see :rollin :rollin
:santa :santa :police: :police:
;D
3 years of your on the fence comments for this game, thought you were growing a set for next year!
You have said that this is the year to play finals for us, if so then this is a must win game and we have the team to do it!
:fishing :fishing
:rollin :rollin
As expected :thumbsup
Voted Yes BTW
Carry on
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We will see :rollin :rollin
:santa :santa :police: :police:
;D
3 years of your on the fence comments for this game, thought you were growing a set for next year!
You have said that this is the year to play finals for us, if so then this is a must win game and we have the team to do it!
:fishing :fishing
:rollin :rollin
As expected :thumbsup
Voted Yes BTW
Carry on
Back at you.... :lol :thumbsup
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We will see :rollin :rollin
:santa :santa :police: :police:
;D
3 years of your on the fence comments for this game, thought you were growing a set for next year!
You have said that this is the year to play finals for us, if so then this is a must win game and we have the team to do it!
:fishing :fishing
:rollin :rollin
As expected :thumbsup
Voted Yes BTW
Carry on
Back at you.... :lol :thumbsup
;D ;D
:thumbsup :thumbsup
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I think we can do it but the Blues will be stronger and better prepared going into this season than last. They will have fewer injuries and will be better coached. The difference is though that they will also have a coach who is teaching them a new game plan they are still learning and whose focus is not just the beginning of the season but rather the end. This gives us a chance if we have improved as a team.
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hopefully the focus will be more on the Blues and how they fare under Malthouse and allow us to sneak under the guard slightly
The last time we won in round 1 was Judd's first game for the Blues and with all the media hype about them. So yes let's hope history does repeat there.
I agree tigtuff that we should have greater natural development across our list than the Blues given our younger yet maturing list. We are coming from a younger (and lower) base than Carlton. Also the Blues made few changes to their list over the offseason that will affect their 22. They were inactive during free agency and the trade period so their ins are just 18 y.o. kids. They are clearly in messiah mode - relying on Malthouse to extract more from same players Ratten put together even though their list has failed time and time again when it counts.
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Voted YES, because until the scum actually beat us I couldnt imagine that they have players better than Cotch, Lids, JR8, Martin, Tucky, and Maric! We will eat them alive!!
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Honest answer, Nope....
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Honest answer, Nope....
Yep, think I'd rather be proven wrong than get my hopes up
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We will see :rollin :rollin
:santa :santa :police: :police:
;D
3 years of your on the fence comments for this game, thought you were growing a set for next year!
That really would be an extraordinary transformation ;) :whistle
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Not sure if we can beat them,however i have to say that brand of boundary hugging football malthouse teams play is really cringe worthy
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I am always guilty of underestimating Carlton this time of year. However it's time to exorcise the demons of 2009. Time to take the blues down and all will be well with the universe again.
All aboard the tiger train.
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We have to win round 1. No ifs, buts or maybes.
Every game against that scum is important and we MUST win.
It will unacceptable to lose. No other game preceding this game has any importance.
It's absolutely imperative that we win. It's massive to the psyche of the club, each player and the coach that we win.
Furthermore we can't allow a former Richmond premiership player, that has already disgraced himself by coaching the filth, any joy or satisfaction from winning his first game with the CHEATS.
Its an abomination that he would even consider coaching them after having the 1980 premiership medallion around his neck.
One last thing. We must win. We have to win. We will win. Losing is not an option!
P. S. ......NO EXCUSES!
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We have to win round 1. No ifs, buts or maybes.
Every game against that scum is important and we MUST win.
It will unacceptable to lose. No other game preceding this game has any importance.
It's absolutely imperative that we win. It's massive to the psyche of the club, each player and the coach that we win.
Furthermore we can't allow a former Richmond premiership player, that has already disgraced himself by coaching the filth, any joy or satisfaction from winning his first game with the CHEATS.
Its an abomination that he would even consider coaching them after having the 1980 premiership medallion around his neck.
One last thing. We must win. We have to win. We will win. Losing is not an option!
P. S. ......NO EXCUSES!
:lol.......x2
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We have to win round 1. No ifs, buts or maybes.
Every game against that scum is important and we MUST win.
It will unacceptable to lose. No other game preceding this game has any importance.
It's absolutely imperative that we win. It's massive to the psyche of the club, each player and the coach that we win.
Furthermore we can't allow a former Richmond premiership player, that has already disgraced himself by coaching the filth, any joy or satisfaction from winning his first game with the CHEATS.
Its an abomination that he would even consider coaching them after having the 1980 premiership medallion around his neck.
One last thing. We must win. We have to win. We will win. Losing is not an option!
P. S. ......NO EXCUSES!
We say that every year,the yellow and black turn up in their thousands then we bloody lose.
Carlton players, I'm convinced ,get a little hush hush bonus payout if they beat us.
They always seem to play out of their skins for that game.
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We have to win round 1. No ifs, buts or maybes.
Every game against that scum is important and we MUST win.
It will unacceptable to lose. No other game preceding this game has any importance.
It's absolutely imperative that we win. It's massive to the psyche of the club, each player and the coach that we win.
Furthermore we can't allow a former Richmond premiership player, that has already disgraced himself by coaching the filth, any joy or satisfaction from winning his first game with the CHEATS.
Its an abomination that he would even consider coaching them after having the 1980 premiership medallion around his neck.
One last thing. We must win. We have to win. We will win. Losing is not an option!
P. S. ......NO EXCUSES!
We say that every year,the yellow and black turn up in their thousands then we bloody lose.
Carlton players, I'm convinced ,get a little hush hush bonus payout if they beat us.
They always seem to play out of their skins for that game.
It shouldn't, wouldn't and couldn't matter if Carlscum had 25 men on the field or were able to cheat, as they do, and have an all Australian all star team playing in their disgusting jumper or they pulled out of their cheating bag of tricks another Helen D'Amico.
We MUST smash them and NEVER allow them to beat us again.
As Geelong has achieved with the dawks so we must also achieve.
A never lose to them again mentality.
It's win at all costs when we do battle against them.
It's absolutely, undoubtably the most important game in 2013. That's all they players should be focused on regardless of any negativity that may rear its ugly head.
Nothing CAN stop us and nothing WILL stop us from winning this game.
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if we dent smash them then its another facade.
Simple.
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If we win,We,ll def.make finals.
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Nah
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Its gunna be a disaster
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Not sure why people think that losing to the scum will be a disaster. Many thought they were top 4 material last year and were on course for that till injuries hit them hard.
They are ahead of us in development and have a better coach now. Even if we lose I think we can still show a lot of improvement this coming season! :gotigers
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Not sure why people think that losing to the scum will be a disaster. Many thought they were top 4 material last year and were on course for that till injuries hit them hard.
They are ahead of us in development and have a better coach now. Even if we lose I think we can still show a lot of improvement this coming season! :gotigers
Keep telling yourself that pal
Last year was last year and by March will be 2 seasons away
They finished around us and we should beat them
No excuses Judd is slowing and aside from Murphy the rest are not that great led by Gibbs and Mr potential
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Not sure why people think that losing to the scum will be a disaster. Many thought they were top 4 material last year and were on course for that till injuries hit them hard.
They are ahead of us in development and have a better coach now. Even if we lose I think we can still show a lot of improvement this coming season! :gotigers
Keep telling yourself that pal
Last year was last year and by March will be 2 seasons away
They finished around us and we should beat them
No excuses Judd is slowing and aside from Murphy the rest are not that great led by Gibbs and Mr potential
YES x 2, I just can't believe some are still seeing next year as an improvement year......just amazes me.
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Not sure why people think that losing to the scum will be a disaster. Many thought they were top 4 material last year and were on course for that till injuries hit them hard.
They are ahead of us in development and have a better coach now. Even if we lose I think we can still show a lot of improvement this coming season! :gotigers
Keep telling yourself that pal
Last year was last year and by March will be 2 seasons away
They finished around us and we should beat them
No excuses Judd is slowing and aside from Murphy the rest are not that great led by Gibbs and Mr potential
YES x 2, I just can't believe some are still seeing next year as an improvement year......just amazes me.
What so if we make the 8, no more need for improvement? I hope every years an improvement year
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There's going to be 7 dissapointed people and 17 really dissapointed ppl on this forum.
So if we lose just the blues jumper will get burnt in the stands and if we win well... Where can I get a carboad cutout of mick??? :shh
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Not sure why people think that losing to the scum will be a disaster. Many thought they were top 4 material last year and were on course for that till injuries hit them hard.
They are ahead of us in development and have a better coach now. Even if we lose I think we can still show a lot of improvement this coming season! :gotigers
Keep telling yourself that pal
Last year was last year and by March will be 2 seasons away
They finished around us and we should beat them
No excuses Judd is slowing and aside from Murphy the rest are not that great led by Gibbs and Mr potential
YES x 2, I just can't believe some are still seeing next year as an improvement year......just amazes me.
What so if we make the 8, no more need for improvement? I hope every years an improvement year
You took my comments out of text, you know exactly what I mean, if you don't, go to bed or you mum will get cross!
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Collins will destroy us and kick a bag
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Collins will destroy us and kick a bag
:lol
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Logically wouldn't you think the new Carlton gameplan will be rusty in round 1.
It depends on who Carlton want to beat more. Us in round 1 or make their statement against the Pies in round 2. Time will tell which game in their first block of 4 they have pencilled in. Either way the cheats will be either 1-1 or 0-2 after 2.
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The bookies have the Blues favourite ...
Carlton $1.65
Richmond $2.25
Source: TAB Sportsbet
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It's almost here!
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The bookies have the Blues favourite ...
Carlton $1.65
Richmond $2.25
Source: TAB Sportsbet
Wasn't it like that last year and as the the match came closer so did our odd drop? Odds on this game are irrelanvant now.
Mick will spin some s hit that will make us favourites going into the game
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yeah betting on these games is really irrelevant - afterall we both have some delusional supporters who will plunge their hard earned regardless of form/results...the fact that there will be no formline heading into this makes it even harder to get a handle on from a bookies perspective...
really is a must win to set the season up & finally put to bed some demons (apologies Melbourne)...could really get the confidence up and from there anything is possible...agree that their gameplan should still be a work in progress but would like to think we could take them regardless...