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Title: Umpiring last night
Post by: Rampstar on February 22, 2013, 10:28:58 PM
the umpires dont hate us but you could see in the last 3 minutes they got every decision. Its like there all thinking lets let Norf go through coz they need to sell some memberships lol. Simply a bordello of a club if Nort.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Penelope on February 22, 2013, 10:45:08 PM
on two occasions tonight ellis was the only bloke prepared to put his head over over the ball and got penalised because his head made contact with an opponents legs who was too scared to put his head over the ball. The second time the north bloke actually pulled out of the contest.

combine that with the amount of times a bloke takes possession and is tackled straight away, only to penalised, and the mission to turn the game into one where the bloke who wants the ball the most is penalised, while the weak prick hanging back is rewarded, is almost complete.

success is within reach Andy, well done on stuffing the game completely.  :clapping
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on February 22, 2013, 10:53:18 PM
on two occasions tonight ellis was the only bloke prepared to put his head over over the ball and got penalised because his head made contact with an opponents legs who was too scared to put his head over the ball. The second time the north bloke actually pulled out of the contest.

combine that with the amount of times a bloke takes possession and is tackled straight away, only to penalised, and the mission to turn the game into one where the bloke who wants the ball the most is penalised, while the weak prick hanging back is rewarded, is almost complete.

success is within reach Andy, well done on stuffing the game completely.  :clapping
Spot on Al. It's bloody ridiculous.
It's the opposite of everything you would tell your son to do in junior footy.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: the claw on February 22, 2013, 11:25:24 PM
on two occasions tonight ellis was the only bloke prepared to put his head over over the ball and got penalised because his head made contact with an opponents legs who was too scared to put his head over the ball. The second time the north bloke actually pulled out of the contest.

combine that with the amount of times a bloke takes possession and is tackled straight away, only to penalised, and the mission to turn the game into one where the bloke who wants the ball the most is penalised, while the weak prick hanging back is rewarded, is almost complete.

success is within reach Andy, well done on stuffing the game completely.  :clapping
gotta agree it makes the game almost unwatchable.
what poos me is all the yes men in the media. none of them have the balls to complain in fear of vlads wrath.. how anyone can think this new rule is good is beyond me.

we play a contact sport or we used to. there is always going to be injuries. you dont change rules that affects the fabric of the game.  we have all played the game and we all know we could get hurt. some injuries just has to be looked at as something that can happen sometimes.
 i have to ask how many blokes have had serious knee injuries over the last 10 yrs from blokes diving on the ball.

 id say stupid rule changes in previous yrs has greatly contributed to what injuries have occured. instead of reviewing what has been done they just bring in another rule that peees every one off.
so its the dying minutes of a game and you throw yourself across the legs of a player in an attempt to smother a shot at goal whats the result a stuffin free kick. the bloody idiots have to leave the fabric of the game alone and just let most problems sort themselves out over time like they did for the first 100 yrs of the games existence.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: tiger101 on February 23, 2013, 12:23:00 AM
on two occasions tonight ellis was the only bloke prepared to put his head over over the ball and got penalised because his head made contact with an opponents legs who was too scared to put his head over the ball. The second time the north bloke actually pulled out of the contest.

combine that with the amount of times a bloke takes possession and is tackled straight away, only to penalised, and the mission to turn the game into one where the bloke who wants the ball the most is penalised, while the weak prick hanging back is rewarded, is almost complete.

success is within reach Andy, well done on stuffing the game completely.  :clapping
gotta agree it makes the game almost unwatchable.
what poos me is all the yes men in the media. none of them have the balls to complain in fear of vlads wrath.. how anyone can think this new rule is good is beyond me.

we play a contact sport or we used to. there is always going to be injuries. you dont change rules that affects the fabric of the game.  we have all played the game and we all know we could get hurt. some injuries just has to be looked at as something that can happen sometimes.
 i have to ask how many blokes have had serious knee injuries over the last 10 yrs from blokes diving on the ball.

 id say stupid rule changes in previous yrs has greatly contributed to what injuries have occured. instead of reviewing what has been done they just bring in another rule that peees every one off.
so its the dying minutes of a game and you throw yourself across the legs of a player in an attempt to smother a shot at goal whats the result a stuffin free kick. the bloody idiots have to leave the fabric of the game alone and just let most problems sort themselves out over time like they did for the first 100 yrs of the games existence.


I agree the rule should only penalise a player if they slide in feet first and make contact with the opponent below the knee's which is dangerous but a player having their head over the ball while making contact with the opponent below the knee shouldn't be against the rules.


Also why was there so many free kicks being given to the kangaroos at the centre bounces in the 1st half was our ruckman infringing on the other player or something.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Bengal on February 23, 2013, 12:28:52 AM
on two occasions tonight ellis was the only bloke prepared to put his head over over the ball and got penalised because his head made contact with an opponents legs who was too scared to put his head over the ball. The second time the north bloke actually pulled out of the contest.

combine that with the amount of times a bloke takes possession and is tackled straight away, only to penalised, and the mission to turn the game into one where the bloke who wants the ball the most is penalised, while the weak prick hanging back is rewarded, is almost complete.

success is within reach Andy, well done on stuffing the game completely.  :clapping
gotta agree it makes the game almost unwatchable.
what poos me is all the yes men in the media. none of them have the balls to complain in fear of vlads wrath.. how anyone can think this new rule is good is beyond me.

we play a contact sport or we used to. there is always going to be injuries. you dont change rules that affects the fabric of the game.  we have all played the game and we all know we could get hurt. some injuries just has to be looked at as something that can happen sometimes.
 i have to ask how many blokes have had serious knee injuries over the last 10 yrs from blokes diving on the ball.

 id say stupid rule changes in previous yrs has greatly contributed to what injuries have occured. instead of reviewing what has been done they just bring in another rule that peees every one off.
so its the dying minutes of a game and you throw yourself across the legs of a player in an attempt to smother a shot at goal whats the result a stuffin free kick. the bloody idiots have to leave the fabric of the game alone and just let most problems sort themselves out over time like they did for the first 100 yrs of the games existence.


I agree the rule should only penalise a player if they slide in feet first and make contact with the opponent below the knee's which is dangerous but a player having their head over the ball while making contact with the opponent below the knee shouldn't be against the rules.


Also why was there so many free kicks being given to the kangaroos at the centre bounces in the 1st half was our ruckman infringing on the other player or something.

At the game tonight i had no stuffing idea it was baffling
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Yeahright on February 23, 2013, 12:38:55 AM
on two occasions tonight ellis was the only bloke prepared to put his head over over the ball and got penalised because his head made contact with an opponents legs who was too scared to put his head over the ball. The second time the north bloke actually pulled out of the contest.

combine that with the amount of times a bloke takes possession and is tackled straight away, only to penalised, and the mission to turn the game into one where the bloke who wants the ball the most is penalised, while the weak prick hanging back is rewarded, is almost complete.

success is within reach Andy, well done on stuffing the game completely.  :clapping

I didn't see the game so I'm unsure what happened. But I don't mind the rule much if it's used well. If Ellis put his head over the ball WITHOUT his feet leaving the ground, stupid call. If he dived on it, free kick. I only say this cause I know blokes who "dive for the ball" but aim for the legs to hurt people.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: mightytiges on February 23, 2013, 05:32:23 AM
Some very perplexing decisions last night. Deja vu with playing North this time last year. I think Vickery and co. reacted to being frustrated with the scragging and opponent's arms over the shoulder not being paid frees.

The inconsistency award of the night went to umps with Morris being pinged for running too far on the wing yet Daw ran a mile without bouncing the ball to kick that goal.

Did a report come out of the North game? They showed replay of a scuffle and the crowd went "woah!" as though a punch had been thrown.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: wayne on February 23, 2013, 08:00:44 AM
Some guy jumper punched Griff.

RE: Ellis getting pinged twice for going in headfirst, Wright almost knocked himself out on Knights' knee and no free to us. The biggest problem will be actually umpiring the rule, it's going to frustrate everyone.

Is it a trial rule?  :pray
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: dwaino on February 23, 2013, 10:14:17 AM
Nob Cup always has woeful umpiring. Umps are really whistle happy. Same happened last year in all games, every team, and will get back to normal (as bad as is  ;D) by round 1.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: tigs2011 on February 23, 2013, 10:22:50 AM
Is it a trial rule?  :pray

The joke is that it isn't. Straight in. The Ellis one was ridiculous. Diving in and winning the footy should be allowed. Sliding in like that knob Lindsay Thomas feet first into Rohan is dangerous.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: dwaino on February 23, 2013, 10:32:27 AM
Is it a trial rule?  :pray

The joke is that it isn't. Straight in. The Ellis one was ridiculous. Diving in and winning the footy should be allowed. Sliding in like that knob Lindsay Thomas feet first into Rohan is dangerous.

Even the commentators said he did the right thing and is exactly how you teach kids to go for it. Reckon the umps were told give the rule a good working out whenever they can.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 23, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
We were shafted.

The Ellis frees upset me greatly
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Chuck17 on February 23, 2013, 12:25:20 PM
We will always be shafted
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: camboon on February 23, 2013, 12:45:15 PM
they got alot of over the shoulder free kicks, they dropped their knees . I'm certainly not suggesting they were there ( should have been play on for most of them) but maybe we could learn a few lessons along the way on dropping ours knees when the oppposition is tired and aiming for the hips when tackling
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Smokey on February 23, 2013, 02:41:51 PM
Just watched both games again (mainly to piece together the bits I missed after Fri evening pub session) and the difference in the standard of umpiring from the Melb game to the North game was huge.  We got smashed by the maggots in game 2 last night, no better example than Morris' penalty for running too far vs Daw's goal.  Morris took 15 steps and got pinged, Daw took 19 and kicked a goal.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: TigerTimeII on February 23, 2013, 02:51:53 PM
reverse racism

Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: mightytiges on February 23, 2013, 03:08:28 PM
Just watched both games again (mainly to piece together the bits I missed after Fri evening pub session) and the difference in the standard of umpiring from the Melb game to the North game was huge.  We got smashed by the maggots in game 2 last night, no better example than Morris' penalty for running too far vs Daw's goal.  Morris took 15 steps and got pinged, Daw took 19 and kicked a goal.
Who was the umpire in North's forward line? It wasn't Bannister was it?

Geisch will give it all the okay like he always does anyway  ::).
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 23, 2013, 03:45:18 PM
They are maggots in the ore season and maggots during the home and away.

One thing that never changes.

Another thing is Nort yes do always seem to get the rub of the green from the maggots too.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Lozza on February 23, 2013, 04:17:37 PM
Some very perplexing decisions last night. Deja vu with playing North this time last year. I think Vickery and co. reacted to being frustrated with the scragging and opponent's arms over the shoulder not being paid frees.

The inconsistency award of the night went to umps with Morris being pinged for running too far on the wing yet Daw ran a mile without bouncing the ball to kick that goal.

Did a report come out of the North game? They showed replay of a scuffle and the crowd went "woah!" as though a punch had been thrown.

Watched a replay of the Daw goal and he had 17 strides before kicking the goal, noting that his stride is that of a small canoe I would guess he ran in the region of 25-30 metres without a bounce. These are the sorts of decisions that seem to go against us time after time. A nothing game but I would love to see stats for the highest penalised team in the last 2 minutes of quarters, we would have to be at the top of the list.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 23, 2013, 08:02:10 PM
reverse racism

msicar
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: bojangles17 on February 23, 2013, 08:46:13 PM
on two occasions tonight ellis was the only bloke prepared to put his head over over the ball and got penalised because his head made contact with an opponents legs who was too scared to put his head over the ball. The second time the north bloke actually pulled out of the contest.

combine that with the amount of times a bloke takes possession and is tackled straight away, only to penalised, and the mission to turn the game into one where the bloke who wants the ball the most is penalised, while the weak prick hanging back is rewarded, is almost complete.

success is within reach Andy, well done on stuffing the game completely.  :clapping

I thought that decision was the biggest joke ive ever seen in umpiring, thats right his head connects with leg and he is penalized, yea, that makes sense ::)
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 23, 2013, 10:31:22 PM
I counted 12 Morris steps.

We always get shafted. Howver the extent to which eliis was, just not right.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Go Richo 12 on February 23, 2013, 10:36:54 PM
reverse racism

msicar
:lol
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: the claw on February 23, 2013, 11:10:02 PM
yep it sure seems north are looked after.
i watch a fair few eagles games and over the yrs they cant buy a free kick against north. its also been my opinion we have regularly copped the wrong end of the stick when playing them.
if any poster on here is unbiased when it comes to the tiges it has to be me.  i absolutely loathe useing the umps as an excuse but bloody hell that mob are well looked after in this area.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Yeahright on February 25, 2013, 04:05:35 PM
on two occasions tonight ellis was the only bloke prepared to put his head over over the ball and got penalised because his head made contact with an opponents legs who was too scared to put his head over the ball. The second time the north bloke actually pulled out of the contest.

combine that with the amount of times a bloke takes possession and is tackled straight away, only to penalised, and the mission to turn the game into one where the bloke who wants the ball the most is penalised, while the weak prick hanging back is rewarded, is almost complete.

success is within reach Andy, well done on stuffing the game completely.  :clapping

I didn't see the game so I'm unsure what happened. But I don't mind the rule much if it's used well. If Ellis put his head over the ball WITHOUT his feet leaving the ground, stupid call. If he dived on it, free kick. I only say this cause I know blokes who "dive for the ball" but aim for the legs to hurt people.

Okay finally him get pinned for hitting him below the knees. Stupid stupid call  :banghead
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 25, 2013, 06:19:11 PM
So in effect.

The rival player was in danger of hurting his lower legs.

Ellis was at danger of head injury.

Both went the ball. And the free kick is awarded against Ellis. Interesting rule.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 02, 2013, 11:31:17 PM
The Dustin f throwing incident was a horrible piece of cheating




Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 02, 2013, 11:35:36 PM
The Dustin f throwing incident was a horrible piece of cheating
It worked out best for us that h got away with it.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: mightytiges on March 02, 2013, 11:41:29 PM
Razor Ray was back confusing supporters with his decisons. I think he gave almost every 50m penalty.

The umps were red hot on holding the ball today. There must have been another memo from Giesch as the umps always go overboard early in the season cracking down on certain rules.

 
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 02, 2013, 11:46:10 PM
Razor Ray was back confusing supporters with his decisons. I think he gave almost every 50m penalty.

The umps were red hot on holding the ball today. There must have been another memo from Giesch as the umps always go overboard early in the season cracking down on certain rules.
As the Umps came off the ground i leant over the makeshift race and said," How was the comeback Razor, good to get it out the way?" He looked up at me and rolled his eyes as if to say he didn't have a great game.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Penelope on March 03, 2013, 09:43:44 AM
The way they penalise the bloke first to the ball is making the game unwatchable. To start with the carlton freo game was ok but as the game went on they became as bad as our game for it.

Its getting to the point where players are better of to do the cowardly thing and knock the ball on rather than take possesion and/or hang back and allow the opposition to take possesion and tackle them.

They also seem to really lenient to the tackler driving the bloke with the ball to the ground from behind, aka in the back

It really is destroying the fabric of the game, the way they seem to want to discourage being first and hardest at the ball.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Coach on March 03, 2013, 09:50:23 AM
The way they penalise the bloke first to the ball is making the game unwatchable. To start with the carlton freo game was ok but as the game went on they became as bad as our game for it.

Its getting to the point where players are better of to do the cowardly thing and knock the ball on rather than take possesion and/or hang back and allow the opposition to take possesion and tackle them.

They also seem to really lenient to the tackler driving the bloke with the ball to the ground from behind, aka in the back

It really is destroying the fabric of the game, the way they seem to want to discourage being first and hardest at the ball.

Al, I agree and I'm hardly a prude
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: WA Tiger on March 03, 2013, 09:51:23 AM
Not normally into umpire bashing because there is no point, won't change  a thing but the umpiring yesterday was pathetic, both ways!
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Chuck17 on March 03, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
Good to have a win and be able to complain about the umpiring, cause it was disgraceful.

I didn't see the replay but Nick V got pinned for holding the ball without looking to be in control of it.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 03, 2013, 02:20:11 PM
The Dustin f throwing incident was a horrible piece of cheating
It worked out best for us that h got away with it.

Its the principal.

Fletcher is the golden one. Can't play a free against when he clearly cheats.
Title: Re: Umpiring last night
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 03, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
As the Umps came off the ground i leant over the makeshift race and said," How was the comeback Razor, good to get it out the way?" He looked up at me and rolled his eyes as if to say he didn't have a great game.

As Razor was heading to rooms past me I said " great game Razor, you're back" he looked up laughed and then I added "and I'm confused"  :lol :lol

Practice games I don't worry about the umpires  :rollin