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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 29, 2013, 02:18:19 PM
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VFL ROUND 8
Coburg Tigers (2-5, 12th) vs Bendigo Gold (0-7, 14th)
Sunday, 2nd June @ Mantello Holden Oval (Coburg City Oval)
Seniors: 2:00 PM
Coburg Development side vs Northern Blues is the curtainraiser at 11:00 AM.
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They lost to Williamstown by 175 after Willy took the foot off in the 4th. Kill Coburg kill. :clapping
Griffo to FF for a whole game. We should get an idea of which guys are duds if they do nothing this week.
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Bendigo Gold :lol
Bendigo Gold by 6 goals
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Almost a surety that while every other club has smashed Bendigo on the scoreboard this year, Coburg will struggle to beat them. The fact Helbig (21), Arnot (19) and now McDonough (19) are expected to carry the Coburg midfield just shows the lack of midfield depth. Most of the Burger players that have come into the side aren't VFL standard.
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Almost a surety that while every other club has smashed Bendigo on the scoreboard this year, Coburg will struggle to beat them. The fact Helbig (21), Arnot (19) and now McDonough (19) are expected to carry the Coburg midfield just shows the lack of midfield depth. Most of the Burger players that have come into the side aren't VFL standard.
and next year has every chance of being much, much worse when we are expected to field a full VFL team.
Team Manager, trainers, fitness staff, medical staff as well.
Have Richmond appointed someone to undertake the recruitment of staff and players or even decided on a planned structure?
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Almost a surety that while every other club has smashed Bendigo on the scoreboard this year, Coburg will struggle to beat them. The fact Helbig (21), Arnot (19) and now McDonough (19) are expected to carry the Coburg midfield just shows the lack of midfield depth. Most of the Burger players that have come into the side aren't VFL standard.
and next year has every chance of being much, much worse when we are expected to field a full VFL team.
Team Manager, trainers, fitness staff, medical staff as well.
Have Richmond appointed someone to undertake the recruitment of staff and players or even decided on a planned structure?
Sounds like you know the answer to that.
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Almost a surety that while every other club has smashed Bendigo on the scoreboard this year, Coburg will struggle to beat them. The fact Helbig (21), Arnot (19) and now McDonough (19) are expected to carry the Coburg midfield just shows the lack of midfield depth. Most of the Burger players that have come into the side aren't VFL standard.
and next year has every chance of being much, much worse when we are expected to field a full VFL team.
Team Manager, trainers, fitness staff, medical staff as well.
Have Richmond appointed someone to undertake the recruitment of staff and players or even decided on a planned structure?
Sounds like you know the answer to that.
Going back to last years AGM I actually asked 2 people that question and the answer was yes they have a working party in place addressing all those things. Certainly have alot of planning taking place
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Almost a surety that while every other club has smashed Bendigo on the scoreboard this year, Coburg will struggle to beat them. The fact Helbig (21), Arnot (19) and now McDonough (19) are expected to carry the Coburg midfield just shows the lack of midfield depth. Most of the Burger players that have come into the side aren't VFL standard.
and next year has every chance of being much, much worse when we are expected to field a full VFL team.
Team Manager, trainers, fitness staff, medical staff as well.
Have Richmond appointed someone to undertake the recruitment of staff and players or even decided on a planned structure?
no, no, no. when we have our own vfl team all these problems will just disappear.
and whats this about having recruiting staff etc? we should have been fielding a team this year. no need to worry about having infrastructure and planning in place.......
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Almost a surety that while every other club has smashed Bendigo on the scoreboard this year, Coburg will struggle to beat them. The fact Helbig (21), Arnot (19) and now McDonough (19) are expected to carry the Coburg midfield just shows the lack of midfield depth. Most of the Burger players that have come into the side aren't VFL standard.
and next year has every chance of being much, much worse when we are expected to field a full VFL team.
Team Manager, trainers, fitness staff, medical staff as well.
Have Richmond appointed someone to undertake the recruitment of staff and players or even decided on a planned structure?
Yep,Greg Miller.
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Almost a surety that while every other club has smashed Bendigo on the scoreboard this year, Coburg will struggle to beat them. The fact Helbig (21), Arnot (19) and now McDonough (19) are expected to carry the Coburg midfield just shows the lack of midfield depth. Most of the Burger players that have come into the side aren't VFL standard.
Agree.
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Going back to last years AGM I actually asked 2 people that question and the answer was yes they have a working party in place addressing all those things. Certainly have alot of planning taking place
Very happy you were told that WP.
Presumably the new Football Head, Dan Richardson, has taken over this group and picked up the slack.
Will watch the results next year with interest.
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Coburg seniors squad
B: Verrier Groves Elton
HB: Carnell Dea Clifton
C: McGuane Nahas Arnot
HF: N.Maric McBean Astbury
F: Darrou A.Edwards Brandt
R: Stephenson Helbig O'Hanlon
Int: Anderson, White, Griffiths, Iudica, Uysal, Conca, Abdallah, Venditti, Keogh*, Grgic, Derickx, Robertella, A. Saad
Gideon Simon has been dropped back down to the development squad.
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Go Reece
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Going back to last years AGM I actually asked 2 people that question and the answer was yes they have a working party in place addressing all those things. Certainly have alot of planning taking place
Very happy you were told that WP.
Presumably the new Football Head, Dan Richardson, has taken over this group and picked up the slack.
Will watch the results next year with interest.
For memory Wayne Campbell was heading up the group Redan
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Great to see o hanlon back, i like the boy :shh
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Great to see o hanlon back, i like the boy :shh
Yep, agreed. :clapping
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Great to see o hanlon back, i like the boy :shh
Don't get the hype
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Going back to last years AGM I actually asked 2 people that question and the answer was yes they have a working party in place addressing all those things. Certainly have alot of planning taking place
Very happy you were told that WP.
Presumably the new Football Head, Dan Richardson, has taken over this group and picked up the slack.
Will watch the results next year with interest.
For memory Wayne Campbell was heading up the group Redan
Fine with that WP.
Didn't really expect Richardson to be involved in the day-to-day stuff.
Want him to be the "champion" for this team, setting up the VFL side.
Just think it's so important it really needs to be driven hard from the top.
The way this is done will determine if the reserves/VFL becomes a top class development tool for our AFL future and is even more important in financial terms.
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Fine with that WP.
Didn't really expect Richardson to be involved in the day-to-day stuff.
Want him to be the "champion" for this team, setting up the VFL side.
Just think it's so important it really needs to be driven hard from the top.
The way this is done will determine if the reserves/VFL becomes a top class development tool for our AFL future and is even more important in financial terms.
Agree, have always been of the belief we needed to get this right. That's why I had no problem with sticking with Coburg for another year while we did the proper planning, due diligence, made sure we ticked all the boxes regarding what the VFL license requires.
It involves alot more than put a team on filed to play
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this will be the Griffiths match! just report on how he goes!
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Out of interest, former Tiger Dean Putt now plays for Bendigo. He's named at full back so if he plays there he'll be matched up against McBean.
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Any online radio coverage of this game?
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Out of interest, former Tiger Dean Putt now plays for Bendigo. He's named at full back so if he plays there he'll be matched up against McBean.
If he beats McBean fine eyes might take him with a 2nd rounder. :clapping
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Any online radio coverage of this game?
Not that I'm aware of TT. VFL Radio doing the Port vs Willy game instead. There may be score updates on twitter and quarter by quarter score updates on the VFL website.
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We are 1.4 Helbig being taken as 23rd man to Perth.
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scores?
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4.9to 2.0 according to BF
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2013 Peter Jackson VFL
Coburg Tigers 4.9 6.12 0.0 0.00
Bendigo Gold 2.0 5.10 0.0 0.00
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So far Griff, Elton, Nahas, McGuane kicked a goal each
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2013 Peter Jackson VFL
Coburg Tigers 4.9 6.12 9.16 0.00
Bendigo Gold 2.0 5.10 8.11 0.00
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Weren't Bendigo Gold a crap side?
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Weren't Bendigo Gold a crap side?
3 quarter time last week they trailled 185 to 18 I think.... :rollin
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Weren't Bendigo Gold a crap side?
3 quarter time last week they trailled 185 to 18 I think.... :rollin
Oh my
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Weren't Bendigo Gold a crap side?
1 Casey Scorpions 8 6 2 0 0 905 707 128.01 24
2 Geelong Cats 8 6 2 0 0 898 708 126.84 24
3 Port Melbourne 7 5 1 1 0 707 623 113.48 22
4 Williamstown 7 5 2 0 0 876 513 170.76 20
5 Box Hill Hawks 7 5 2 0 0 755 555 136.04 20
6 Collingwood 8 5 3 0 0 897 731 122.71 20
7 Northern Blues 7 4 3 0 0 857 640 133.91 16
8 Sandringham 7 3 3 1 0 769 745 103.22 14
9 North Ballarat 7 2 5 0 0 602 636 94.65 8
10 Essendon 8 2 6 0 0 769 829 92.76 8
11 Werribee Tigers 6 2 4 0 0 604 724 83.43 8
12 Coburg Tigers 7 2 5 0 0 641 873 73.42 8
13 Frankston 6 2 4 0 0 513 716 71.65 8
14 Bendigo Gold 7 0 7 0 0 350 1143 30.62 0
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boy oh boy wowee
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Sadly so predictable. Past two years Coburg loses to winless Frankston and now is struggling to beat an even worse winless Bendigo that everyone else has flogged by at least 10 goals plus.
Coburg FC twitter saying "this could go down to the wire" as if it's a good thing :rollin.
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Thanks Damon, looks like a name change to Bendigo Brown would be apt
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From BF
(Quarter-time summay):
Astbury, Nahas and Verrier have been our best.
Conca has been okay.
Arnott has been poor. Has had a tag and handled it poorly giving away a fair few frees and burning kicks.
Astbury, Elton playing back. McBean, McGuane and Griffiths are playing forward.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/coburg-vs-bendigo-gold-sunday-2nd-june-mantello-holden-oval-at-2-00-pm.1009764/page-2#post-28522343
(Half-time summary):
Some pretty ordinary football. McGuane kicked into the mark 10m directly in front.
Nahas, Stephenson and Astbury have been our best. Astbury took a big hit and was on the bench for about the last ten minutes of the quarter. Arnott was much improved that quarter
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/coburg-vs-bendigo-gold-sunday-2nd-june-mantello-holden-oval-at-2-00-pm.1009764/page-2#post-28522840
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We should kick away and win well, gotta say though ill be so pleased to be rid of the coburg side. There players are so short of the mark it aint it funny, a few injuries and whoa, we have two bit bums running around like headless chooks. :lol
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Weren't Bendigo Gold a crap side?
Bendigo's average losing margin this year has been 113 points.
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Joel Peterson @joelbpeterson twitter:
"coburg up by one point late in the last mate"
22 minutes gone
:-[
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We should kick away and win well, gotta say though ill be so pleased to be rid of the coburg side. There players are so short of the mark it aint it funny, a few injuries and whoa, we have two bit bums running around like headless chooks. :lol
......And a couple of those will be playing for Richmond tomorrow night. :shh
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We better win this or heads should roll, this vfl side is a bloody embarrassment...man i cant wait to be rid of it :shh.
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Weren't Bendigo Gold a crap side?
Bendigo's average losing margin this year has been 113 points.
Not any more :lol
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Full time, Coburg win!
Coburg 11.22.88
Bendigo 11.12.78
Goals: McBean 2, McGuane 2, Nahas, Elton, Griffiths, Grgic, N.Maric, Venditti
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Thanks heavens for that, boy wouldn't be able to live that down, 22 bleedin points, love the 33% conversion ::)
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Good to see Astbury again in the best.
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From BF:
Coburg won by 8 (sic - 10 pts) after giving up the lead half way through the last quarter.
A tough day for the big guys but they all played pretty but finished poorly. McBean kicked 1.4 (sic - he kicked two) and Griff kicked 0.3.
McGuane was very good
Best were Nahas, Stephenson, McGuane, Astbury and Arnot. All did enough to warrant a senior game.
Griff played well despite his poor kicking. Must be played forward as he always look a threat up there.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/coburg-vs-bendigo-gold-sunday-2nd-june-mantello-holden-oval-at-2-00-pm.1009764/page-2#post-28524432
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Griff kicked a goal too. :whistle
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A great disappointing win!
McBean, how many goals this year?
Would play him and Griffiths against Adelaide.
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Simon kicked a goal in the VFL ressies.
2013 AFL Victoria Development League
Coburg Tigers 2.3 2.3 5.8 7.8 (50)
Northern Blues 0.2 4.4 4.6 10.9 (69)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Anderson 2 Saad 2 Simon Saad Sortino
Northern Blues: Clark 2 Toman 2 Soncin Bonaddio Bolger Watson McBean McCann
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Egglestone Robertella MacAodha Boyd Thomas Bean
Northern Blues: Bonaddio Yelland Dirago McCann Gleeson Posar
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Fast forward to 2014 and this game Coburg -v- Bendigo will be a ripper, reckon it will be Bendigos first win as a stand alone team :rollin :rollin
As for 2014 and Richmond's stand alone VFL tema, get use to these results folks, wins aren't going to be the focus development will be the main theme ;D
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2013 Peter Jackson VFL
Coburg Tigers 4.9 6.12 9.16 11.22 (88)
Bendigo Gold 2.0 5.10 8.11 11.12 (78)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: McBean 2 McGuane 2 Grgic Nahas Elton Venditti O'Hanlon Griffiths N.Maric
Bendigo Gold: Sheahan 2 Stroobants 2 Gough Hams Cain Magin McInnes Brooker Toman
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Nahas Arnot Conca Griffiths Carnell Stephenson
Bendigo Gold: Toman Flynn Aarts Stroobants Magin Sheahan
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v5/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=4138&pg=1&a=MR
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Got to the game about 5 minutes in .Ground was ok but heavy.(ok folks will summarise as I saw it)
Coburg dish up the same crap Richmond do.Turnovers and very inaccurate in front of goal.Very unfair to blame the Coburg listed players for the standard of football,our boys just as guilty.
Thought big Oren played well and with passion
Nahas got a lot of the footy but kept slipping over and got nailed a few times.Also very ordinary from a set shot(but we all know this).
Arnott won some good footy ,but his kicking is ordinary ,missed, running into an open goal from less than 30 metres out directly in front.One incident for me highlights why I still have question marks.This happened right in front of where I was standing,had the ball on the boundary line and instead of choosing to go down the line he chose to go inside to where 2bendigo players were waiting to tackle him...He once again chose the physical contest rather than perecentage one.
Loved Astburys game,played the second half injured ,but won crucial contests,spoiled well all day,and used good judgement when delivering the ball.
Mcbean presented well ,but not a good day for tall forwards.
Griff very ordinary early on but got better and took some good marks by the end..crap kicking by him though
Conca was excellent .won lots of ball,and received lots too.turned it over once or twice ,but good game overall
Ohanlon....fellas I really don't see what you guys see in him...to me his game was meh,as it is most of the time I see him play(but hey I'm just a punter)
Derryx-battled hard .Darou solid,competes well and hard at it.
Don't know who else I have missed
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Thanks G, from that summary we are stuffed for depth and the only good news is Conca, how much of the game did he play?
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played the whole game..didn't seem to run out of puff...I would say straight back in after this round
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Great news thanks
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Great wrap up G, looks like some nice depth building at coburg :clapping
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Great wrap up G, looks like some nice depth building at coburg :clapping
LMaO you onto the second bottle of the night already
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Great wrap up G, looks like some nice depth building at coburg :clapping
LMaO you onto the second bottle of the night already
:lol :rollin :lol
The only thing deep at Coburg is the mud in the centre of the ground and the Merri Creek after the deluge on Friday night.
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13 RFC players played for Coburg today - McGuane, McBean, O'Hanlon, Elton, Verrier, Darrou, Astbury, Derickx, Nahas, Arnot, Conca, Griffiths and Stephenson.
No McDonough (injured) or Helbig (23rd man for tomorrow).
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13 RFC players played for Coburg today - McGuane, McBean, O'Hanlon, Elton, Verrier, Darrou, Astbury, Derickx, Nahas, Arnot, Conca, Griffiths and Stephenson.
No McDonough (injured) or Helbig (23rd man for tomorrow).
What the hecks up with macca, wasnt across that one ::)
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13 RFC players played for Coburg today - McGuane, McBean, O'Hanlon, Elton, Verrier, Darrou, Astbury, Derickx, Nahas, Arnot, Conca, Griffiths and Stephenson.
No McDonough (injured) or Helbig (23rd man for tomorrow).
What the hecks up with macca, wasnt across that one ::)
Hurt his knee at the end of last weeks game.
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Conca 'ready to return' to Tigers
Brent Diamond
The Age
June 3, 2013
Richmond midfielder Reece Conca has declared he is ready to return to the Tigers' line-up after an impressive return from a foot injury for Coburg in a 10-point win over Bendigo at Coburg City Oval on Sunday.
Conca gathered 24 touches and five clearances in 70 minutes of game time.
Also impressive was Robin Nahas who gathered 25 disposals and kicked 1.4.
''He [Conca] was unlucky not to come straight back in [to the AFL team]. He's a really good AFL footballer so I can't imagine him staying out of the senior side for very long,'' Tigers development coach Tim Clarke said after the win.
''A couple of times early in the game, he tried to be too creative with the ball but then had a really good third quarter which helped us.''
Orren Stephenson (33 hit-outs and 18 disposals) was also influential. ''He was very dominant again, marked the ball better today. He's the best ruckman in the VFL and we're lucky to have him down there,'' Clarke said.
''It keeps us in the hunt which is important for Coburg and it's important for Richmond to have us fighting for finals and that there's pressure for selection.''
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/conca-ready-to-return-to-tigers-20130602-2njyl.html#ixzz2V50whZUX
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What's the bet Nahas will be an automatic inclusion against Adelaide :banghead
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What's the bet Nahas will be an automatic inclusion against Adelaide :banghead
Lock in:
Out:White
In: Nahas
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How the bleedin heck will there be room for nahas, with conca and brandy returning :lol
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What's the bet Nahas will be an automatic inclusion against Adelaide :banghead
Wouldn't be suprised. :banghead
If he gets selected again I'm not going.
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''A couple of times early in the game, he tried to be too creative with the ball but then had a really good third quarter which helped us.''
Other words he was to good for other people to read what he was doing :shh
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''A couple of times early in the game, he tried to be too creative with the ball but then had a really good third quarter which helped us.''
Other words he was to good for other people to read what he was doing :shh
Pretty much how I read it too. :thumbsup
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Matt Arnot (20 possessions and seven clearances) was impressive.
Tom Derickx (20) dominated the ruck, while ... Brett O’Hanlon made a successful return from a long-term injury, collecting 13 disposals.
Full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-06-03/edwards-eager-to-grab-his-chance
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VIDEO: Coburg highlights Round 8 ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-06-03/coburg-highlights-round-8
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MATCH REPORT vs Bendigo (Round 8)
Coburg website
Coburg have moved up to just one game outside the top 8 after a tight win over Bendigo on the weekend. The winless 'Gold' gave the Tigers a mighty scare when they hit the front with just minutes remaining, but a few of Coburg's cooler heads managed to steady and hold on for an unconvincing, but crucial victory.
Coburg took control of the game from the first bounce, and had the majority of possession for the entire quarter without being able to fully capitalise. The Tigers kicked 4.9 for the term with a number of those behinds being very gettable. Richmond player Reece Conca looked to be in scintillating form after coming back from injury, winning a heap of ball through the middle and looking the most composed in wet and scrappy conditions.
Bendigo made Coburg pay for not taking their chances in the second quarter, they began to finally win some ball through the middle and managed to kick 3 goals to 2 for the term, in what was turning in to a very fiery and competitive match. Once again, Coburg's score for the quarter did not reflect their inside 50 chances and they went in to half time 6.12.48 to 5.10.40, just 8 points ahead.
The third quarter started in a very similar fashion to the second; a lot of contested ball through the middle, scrappy forward 50 entries and a lot of hot headed individuals for both teams. It remained tight for the entire term, going goal for goal until eventually, after kicking 3 goals each, Coburg went in to the final change 11 points up. Captain Nick Carnell and backman turned forward Ben Griffiths looked the most likely to regain the ascendancy for Coburg, with Griffiths looking a huge threat at half forward and Carnell winning a heap of tough contested ball. Nahas and McGuane also loomed as contant threats.
After last weeks 175 point loss, and their winless start to the season, many expected it was only a matter of time before Bendigo's pressure weakened and Coburg would kick away to an easy win. The final term showed this wasn't to be the case however, with Bendigo coming out looking like a team with something to prove and if anything, increasing the pressure from the past 3 quarters. Coburg fans and players were given a major scare when the visitors took the lead through a snap from their captain, with about 5 minutes to go. This goal came just minutes after a miraculous goal from Robin Nahas from the pocket, which looked to be the game sealer. With Bendigo holding the narrowest of leads and the clock ticking in to injury time it looked as if a major upset was on the cards, until youngster Nick Maric was awarded a free kick 40m out directly in front for a high tackle. The impressive Maric made no mistake with the set shot and this seemed to help Coburg regain their composure for the final few minutes, managing to kick one more and really stamp out any hope of a Bendigo come back, winning in the end by 10 points.
Coburg players showed more relief than joy after the win, knowing that they very nearly gave up a crucial 4 points heading in to their bye. The win did show good resilience in the end however, managing to hold off a Bendigo side who were giving their absolute all to get their first win as a club on the board. The win puts Coburg at 10th spot on the ladder, just one win outside the 8 but with the bye coming up this weekend.
Coburg 11.22.88
Bendigo11.12.78
GOALS: McBean, McGuane 2, Nahas, Elton, Griffiths, Grgic, Maric, Venditti, O'Hanlon 1.
BEST: Stephenson, Carnell, Griffiths, Conca, Arnot, Nahas.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-118-10471-0-18717695&sID=56260&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=23928354
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Coburg get a bye too?
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Coburg get a bye too?
Yep
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Coburg get a bye too?
Yep
Stupid
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Coburg get a bye too?
Yep
Stupid
Would've been nice for Conca and Ellis to have a run permitting they are fit to do so