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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: PuntRdRoar on June 04, 2005, 03:31:57 PM
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Im not at the game, Im seeing it on Fox, I have the flu :-[ and im not happy. Tivendale needs to Go and he needs to go Now- hes hurting our team with turnovers its not funny anymore, Bowden only plays good when hes left alone, well its time to trade Bowdo...he may be a good bloke...but basically doesnt have any influence on games, and Chaff...well chaffs gone ok today...but he should go to. We have way to many left footed blokes who either turn it over or dont play accountable footy. Take a look at young Deledio...when the heat was on...the young bloke put his hand up and had a go- he tried to change the course of the game, sadly no one was there to help him...when Browny went of last week i had the feeling the wheels have fallen off. They bloody well better improve or this year will be shot to pieces as well. Heres looking forward to a better second half! :banghead
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Ease up RT.
Was at the game and apart from 2nd 1/4 even though we were trying the forward matchups didnt work. Got it going but those couple of easy goals in the last few minutes of the 3rd 1/4 was the difference. Always look on the bright side, we came back twice against the best at the moment. Home game yes but not so much of an advanatage as one would think.
Proud of the boys.
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Tivendale isnt accountable for his opponent when they go forward and continually turns it over. Is a Dud
Chaff is the turn over King
and Bowden, probably too late to trade him. I still think he is of some value
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Tivs had a shocking first half. Turned it over at least 5 times doing short little 25m nothing kicks that either bounced 5-10m in front of our bloke on the lead or went straight to an Eagles player. God knows why he chose to use his right foot for passing a couple of times when he didn't have to ???. In second half he was good IMO as he actually got his hands on the footy at centre bounces and got us moving forward that lead to our comebacks. I was surprised Worsfold didn't prevent Tivs from running defensive side and onto his preferred left foot.
Chaffey tried hard but Judd and Cousins killed us.
Not the best game from Joel but he's been good most weeks. I wouldn't be trading him whereas Chaffey and Tivs are tradeable. Sides that need pace in the midfield like the bombers or blues may be very interested in Tivs.
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It's not surprising that Richo gets frustrated when Tiv kicks the ball to Richo's feet. :banghead Maybe Tiv should spend a week or two at Coburg.
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Agree with all except Bowden - now that is a turn around.
He still has some worth to us if not merely thru lack of opportunity bestowed upon the club.
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Agree with all except Bowden - now that is a turn around.
He still has some worth to us if not merely thru lack of opportunity bestowed upon the club.
I AGREE
joel did ok, his skill has improved and some of his spear like passes have been great, occasionally he makles a mistake and ppl then forget his good!
tivendale should not get a game again, he has had 11 weeks now to learn to kick the fricken ball in front of richo lace out! he is a continual screw up!!!as soon as happy gilmore gets over his injury that change should be made 4 good!
besides the umpires , tivendales screw ups cost us big time!!!!
chaffey , i say keep him for the yr then delist him, at leats his kicking improved in the second half unlike that girl tivendale
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Agree with all except Bowden - now that is a turn around.
He still has some worth to us if not merely thru lack of opportunity bestowed upon the club.
I AGREE
joel did ok, his skill has improved and some of his spear like passes have been great, occasionally he makles a mistake and ppl then forget his good!
tivendale should not get a game again, he has had 11 weeks now to learn to kick the fricken ball in front of richo lace out! he is a continual screw up!!!as soon as happy gilmore gets over his injury that change should be made 4 good!
besides the umpires , tivendales screw ups cost us big time!!!!
chaffey , i say keep him for the yr then delist him, at leats his kicking improved in the second half unlike that girl tivendale
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Tivendale = Hell yes
Chaffey = Probably
Bowden = No!
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Tivendale should be banished and we should bring in Roach or Raines.
His kick choces are all low percentage,at leat in his reportoire and he hasn't used his raking left in God knows
band as JohnF pointed out on BF - He cant use his hands other than for putting mascarra on.
Hi is basically of the same mentality of Spud.
ie - good guy people like having around the club and has a lot of mates there.
Fear not as Wallace would be right onto it.
He'll go end of year.
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Tivendale should be banished and we should bring in Roach or Raines.
His kick choces are all low percentage,at leat in his reportoire and he hasn't used his raking left in God knows
band as JohnF pointed out on BF - He cant use his hands other than for putting mascarra on.
Hi is basically of the same mentality of Spud.
ie - good guy people like having around the club and has a lot of mates there.
Fear not as Wallace would be right onto it.
He'll go end of year.
terry should not waittil the end of the yr, its now or never, tivendale has had 11 weeks to prove he can hit a target, the whole idea of having him at hbf is to run out of defence and hit forwars lace out with 50mtre passes! he has failed and failed bad and cost us the game on the w/e!
its time they bring gilmore in to run off the hbf!!!
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Tivendale should be banished and we should bring in Roach or Raines.
His kick choces are all low percentage,at leat in his reportoire and he hasn't used his raking left in God knows
band as JohnF pointed out on BF - He cant use his hands other than for putting mascarra on.
Hi is basically of the same mentality of Spud.
ie - good guy people like having around the club and has a lot of mates there.
Fear not as Wallace would be right onto it.
He'll go end of year.
terry should not waittil the end of the yr, its now or never, tivendale has had 11 weeks to prove he can hit a target, the whole idea of having him at hbf is to run out of defence and hit forwars lace out with 50mtre passes! he has failed and failed bad and cost us the game on the w/e!
its time they bring gilmore in to run off the hbf!!!
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Tivs is definitely putting himself up as trade bait. He gets the footy but coughs it up far too often.
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There's a player just as undeserving of a game, but everyone rates him - and that's Simmo.
I must be at the wrong games if ppl who think this guy is the be all.
7 kicks, 1 handball, 5 marks, 6 hits outs, 1 free against, no goals
Just ain't good enough
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Surprised Simmonds has had that much of the ball. He's done stuff all for the third or fourth week in a row.
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well i just got home, i left the match at 3/4 time and i supposed that is bad in itself but we still have major problems. I still believe what i wrote in this thread- in the end we arent good enough. Sadly our players performed above there normal capacity- probably because of the new coach. That lasted 10 weeks. Sadly for us theyve won to many games already this season. I dont think we'll make the eight, we will finish about 11th-12 position hopefully 13-14 and hopefully all the clubs who are down the bottom start winning afew games, infact I would be in favour of us losing to Hawthorn and Carlton now so as to try and get them over the priority pick mark
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Tivendale killed us today, drop him now!
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End of year departures:
Tivendale
Chaffey
Hilton
Morrison
Graham
Campbell
Stafford
Players that should be put through hell to get themselves right for next year:
Pettifer
Krakouer
Schulz
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Tivendale - Hell yes, maybe lucky enough to trade him.
Chaffey - Possibly.
Hilton - Probably.
Morrison - I want him to get an opportunity in defense before i write him off.
Graham - Retire
Campbell - Retire
Stafford - Retire
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The momentum swung completely after Tivendale chose to handball the ball(and a lousy one at that as it produced a turnover) instead of landing it on Richos chest .How he couldnt see Richo running in a straight line directly towards him with a five metre break on his opponent defies belief.
He and Knobel were SHOCKING today. Knobel cost us 2 goals from woeful disposal.
Absolutely disgraceful .
I had to endure the laughter of oppostion supporters at their pathetic skill levels.
Im very weeed off fellow ranters :banghead
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If I heard the dikkhead North Supporter behind me go on about being "Tiger Tuff" for 1 more minute... :banghead
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The momentum swung completely after Tivendale chose to handball the ball(and a lousy one at that as it produced a turnover) instead of landing it on Richos chest .
The thing that ticks me off most about Tivs (and others) running to 50 and offloading with short stupid passes and handballs is he can kick over 50m in his sleep. Why doesn't he just run to 50-55 and go bang?! He had two chances to do that today but didn't. Is he told not to do it ???. Sheesh those long goals on the run are one of the best teamlifting things a player can do. Just ask Daniel Harris of the Roos who kicked a 60m goal on the run soon after that turnover :banghead.
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The momentum swung completely after Tivendale chose to handball the ball(and a lousy one at that as it produced a turnover) instead of landing it on Richos chest .
The thing that ticks me off most about Tivs (and others) running to 50 and offloading with short stupid passes and handballs is he can kick over 50m in his sleep. Why doesn't he just run to 50-55 and go bang?! He had two chances to do that today but didn't. Is he told not to do it ???
Joel Bowden was interviewed after the game, just wish I could remember exactly what he said. He did say something along the lines that they had planned for the way the Roos play and were under certain instructions. He conceded though that when they were given instructions through the week they perhaps over did them in games at times. And that yesterday there were situations when going long was the better option. :o
It’s one thing to give players instructions, but you have to wonder about their ability to use common sense and logic and do what a good footballer should. One more dumb decision by one of our players and I was about to hurl myself over the railing from Level 3. Don’t know the last time I was as frustrated at the footy as yesterday.
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Tivs is definitely putting himself up as trade bait. He gets the footy but coughs it up far too often.
I doubt that he is to be honest - his turnovers are not only killing us every week but his value as well
The thing that ticks me off most about Tivs (and others) running to 50 and offloading with short stupid passes and handballs is he can kick over 50m in his sleep. Why doesn't he just run to 50-55 and go bang?! He had two chances to do that today but didn't. Is he told not to do it ???. Sheesh those long goals on the run are one of the best teamlifting things a player can do. Just ask Daniel Harris of the Roos who kicked a 60m goal on the run soon after that turnover :banghead.
Got it in a nutshell MT - He tried one long bomb from outside 50 in the final quarter and scored a behind (didn't everyone :banghead) but it showed that he still can kick the bloody thing long. I honestly don't understand why we are not using his one apparent strength to its advantage because those little stan passes and chip kicks are not helping the team one little bit.
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It's time to go.....TIVENDALE.
Nice guy, DUMB footballer. Has no peripheral vision...before deciding to play on, perhaps just have a sideways glance to your left (cause that's where any smart footballer will be standing on you Tivs) and when you see 3, yes 3, opposition players there perhaps go back and have a long shot on goal. What's worse every Tiger supporter just knew he was going to play on. DOH!!!! :banghead :banghead
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It's time to go.....TIVENDALE.
Nice guy, DUMB footballer. Has no peripheral vision...before deciding to play on, perhaps just have a sideways glance to your left (cause that's where any smart footballer will be standing on you Tivs) and when you see 3, yes 3, opposition players there perhaps go back and have a long shot on goal. What's worse every Tiger supporter just knew he was going to play on. DOH!!!! :banghead :banghead
Heh bg25 - I actually heard that Tivva didn't play yesterday! Tivva got abducted by Aliens on Saturday evening and was replaced by your mate Umpire Hendrie
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
;D ;D ;D :santa :rollin
Couldn't resist :thumbsup
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Heh bg25 - I actually heard that Tivva didn't play yesterday! Tivva got abducted by Aliens on Saturday evening and was replaced by your mate Umpire Hendrie
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
;D ;D ;D :santa :rollin
Couldn't resist :thumbsup
And just when I was almost over it :'( :'( :'(
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I doubt that he is to be honest - his turnovers are not only killing us every week but his value as well
Shhh WP :shh. Tivs will be a great player at the Blues next year :thumbsup :lol
I honestly don't understand why we are not using his one apparent strength to its advantage because those little stan passes and chip kicks are not helping the team one little bit.
In Tivs case if he's within 70m of goal he should be told to go for it. At least if he doesn't make the distance it goes to a dangerous position at the top of the square rather than turnovered at HF through dicky little short passes and loopy handballs :banghead.
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Hi All, I came over for this game - what a game to pick for my 1 melb game of the year! Anyway, when Tivs tried to play on I was disappointed but forgave him as the forward line was doing nothing whilst he waited to kick. However, when he gave the "handball" off after his run he lost my vote. Fortunately my vote means nothing in the Richmond selection process.
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Tivs would be on thin ice now to keep his spot with Coburg winning. He just had no impact whatsoever.
Simmonds also went missing. 0 possessions in the last quarter! Big guys need to present especially when we were stop-start.
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I'm pretty sure Tivendale had a lot of pine time, however when i did see him (not often) nearly EVERY possession of his was effective (or not a complete stuff up), so i've got no problems with him playing next week.
IMO he is suited a lot better at the MCG, where there is more space for him to do what he does.
I'd like to see him play against the saints at the G next week.
As for Simmonds, i made a post about him in another thread about him, but i wouldn't drop him.
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Tivs did alright today. No noticable stuff-ups with is kicking. In fact did a great pass along the boundary line when squeezed on the members wing. The guy behind nearly spilt his beer when he found out who kicked it - "sh...., that was Tivendale" lol.
As for Chaff he's making me forget how bad he was last year. Totally spanked Hird. I can only think of two influential things Hird did - a chip pass to Lloyd and a goal to himself. The latter shouldn't a free to Hird either.
Joel will be happy - perfect winning record as captain ;D.
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Ok i am convinced now that Tivendale plays 20 times better at the MCG then Telstra Dome!
As for Chaff owning Hird today, :gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop
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Ok i am convinced now that Tivendale plays 20 times better at the MCG then Telstra Dome!
Yeah you're right Razor. Tivs does seem to play better at the MCG. Maybe the 'G being a bigger ground gives him more time and opportunity to swing on his left foot and kick long.