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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on February 09, 2014, 12:37:04 PM
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Lists by positions: forwards, part two
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
February 9, 2014
With the NAB Challenge approaching, AFL.com.au will examine all the defenders, midfielders and forwards on your club's list.
Today, we assess the forwards from Hawthorn to the Western Bulldogs.
RICHMOND
Todd Banfield: The former Lion is training well, having started to grasp the Tigers' game plan. The club is hoping that after five seasons in the AFL system he'll fit into the forward line and have an impact should he be promoted from the rookie list.
Aaron Edwards: He has carried on from his strong finish to 2013 with a solid pre-season. Has been marking strongly and is jumping well, and with his main competition in Luke McGuane now gone, has a good opportunity for consistent football.
Shane Edwards: Training with the forwards and midfielders. The Tigers want him to reproduce his 2012 output of 29 goals after he spent more time in the middle last year. Will likely spend time in both attack and the midfield.
Todd Elton: Having his best pre-season going into his third year. Has been working with Mark Williams in competitive training and is marking well. Has also been doing ruck work after playing that role as a junior. The plan is for him to start pushing Jack Riewoldt and Ty Vickery for a position this year and develop into a second-ruck type.
Shaun Hampson: Has trained well but has been managed through some sessions as he adjusts to the Tigers' program. Will spend time up forward and provide support for Ivan Maric. Has rucked a lot in the pre-season but will also provide a contest and take marks up forward.
Jake King: Had post-season surgery and has been eased into training. Is back running and is scheduled to move into full training in the coming weeks. Is working on getting back his speed and endurance so he can contribute to the forward line and midfield. Has come through some off-field controversy.
Chris Knights: Will be almost a new recruit after missing nearly all of last season with a sickening knee injury. Is expected to be available for the first NAB Challenge game after pulling up well from match practice.
Sam Lloyd: The mature-age former VFL forward has impressed, shedding weight and changing his body shape. Could push for senior selection in his first year having shown his smarts in attack and impressive skills.
Liam McBean: Was very close to playing last year when he suffered a season-ending ankle injury in the VFL late in the year. Was slow starting his pre-season after surgery but has come into the full group recently and is expected to push for a debut.
Chris Newman: The veteran is set for a new role as a small forward, having played on them for the majority of his career. At 31, still possesses a good level of speed and determination and has trained well in his new position.
Brett O'Hanlon: Had ankle surgery after carrying an injury throughout last season. Didn't play seniors after eight games the previous year but is expected to benefit from being settled in the forward line and will push for selection.
Jack Riewoldt: Started full training three weeks ago after hip and knee surgery and has rediscovered his jump while moving freely. Will move around this season and spend time up the ground and deep in attack. Is expected to play NAB Challenge.
Ty Vickery: Will play more forward this year with the recruitment of Hampson to back up Maric in the ruck. The aim is for him to form a consistent partnership with Riewoldt and he is expected to benefit from being closer to goal more often.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-09/lists-by-positions-forwards-part-two
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outside of riewoldt it seems to me all of our tall forwards are second ruck types. when are we going to recruit a pure forward type like well jack.
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For some reason I always forget about O'Hanlon.
Isn't Gordon a forward/mid?
Agree Santa.... only one pure forward and an awful lot of utilities amongst the talls there. Bit of a concern.
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i remember when JR was considered by experts as a third tall fwd/flanker lmao
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i remember when JR was considered by experts as a third tall fwd/flanker lmao
With Vickery and Maric/Hampson playing forward tell me that Jack won't be playing that role.
:cheers
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jack wont be playing that role poindexter
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jack wont be playing that role
In terms of size he will be the third tall.
:lol
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jack wont be playing that role
In terms of size he will be the third tall.
:lol
:lol :lol
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Interesting that Griffiths is not mentioned. I think the fact that all our other main forwards are learning the ruck role is all about the need for further flexibility in roles going forward given rotations and possibility for injury.
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jack wont be playing that role
In terms of size he will be the third tall.
:lol
Nahas will be first at Norf if we go by size.
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Interesting that Griffiths is not mentioned. I think the fact that all our other main forwards are learning the ruck role is all about the need for further flexibility in roles going forward given rotations and possibility for injury.
Not that interesting.
Afl.com articles are hardly gospel
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I guess Griffith is the other pure tall forward. Hopefully we'll start playing him as one more often. Odd that a bloke who's been on list since 2010 didn't rate a mention in that article, yet new arrivals Lloyd and the rookie listed Banfield did.
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i remember when JR was considered by experts as a third tall fwd/flanker lmao
when was this. and who were those so called experts.
was always going to play ff/ or imo where he plays his best footy chf.
you sure the expectations wasnt that jack most certainly should play as a third tall option in his first few yrs while his body develops.
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I guess Griffith is the other pure tall forward. Hopefully we'll start playing him as one more often. Odd that a bloke who's been on list since 2010 didn't rate a mention in that article, yet new arrivals Lloyd and the rookie listed Banfield did.
not so odd when you consider hes hardly been played as a forward while with us.
astbury and post were two other genuine forwards when drafted. post is gone and astbury who was a very good hit up type has been developed down back like griffiths.
imo we are screaming out for two types of tall forward to go on our list.
a kpf or power forward in the cloke, walker, podsiadlly ,brown hawkins mode, and a third tall type like gunston kerston darling crameri.
who ever we get let em be natural forwards ffs.
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I guess Griffith is the other pure tall forward. Hopefully we'll start playing him as one more often. Odd that a bloke who's been on list since 2010 didn't rate a mention in that article, yet new arrivals Lloyd and the rookie listed Banfield did.
not so odd when you consider hes hardly been played as a forward while with us.
astbury and post were two other genuine forwards when drafted. post is gone and astbury who was a very good hit up type has been developed down back like griffiths.
imo we are screaming out for two types of tall forward to go on our list.
a kpf or power forward in the cloke, walker, podsiadlly ,brown hawkins mode, and a third tall type like gunston kerston darling crameri.
who ever we get let em be natural forwards ffs.
Plus there is some hope for Lloyd and Banfield instead of desperate wishing
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I guess Griffith is the other pure tall forward. Hopefully we'll start playing him as one more often. Odd that a bloke who's been on list since 2010 didn't rate a mention in that article, yet new arrivals Lloyd and the rookie listed Banfield did.
not so odd when you consider hes hardly been played as a forward while with us.
astbury and post were two other genuine forwards when drafted. post is gone and astbury who was a very good hit up type has been developed down back like griffiths.
imo we are screaming out for two types of tall forward to go on our list.
a kpf or power forward in the cloke, walker, podsiadlly ,brown hawkins mode, and a third tall type like gunston kerston darling crameri.
who ever we get let em be natural forwards ffs.
Plus there is some hope for Lloyd and Banfield instead of desperate wishing
would agree with that.
while not a banfield fan based on his skillset and overall performances to date he has shown a bit at times. lloyd as a state leaguer deserves a crack at itand if the lower level form is any indicator there is indeed some hope for him.
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jack wont be playing that role
In terms of size he will be the third tall.
:lol
:thatsgold
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Griffith is a forward, pure & simple, regardless of where the brains trust have been wasting him. Whether he'll ever be good one is entirely another matter.
On that note I agree about Astbury being a forward too. Injuries or not, hasn't looked even half as good anywhere else since.
i remember when JR was considered by experts as a third tall fwd/flanker lmao
when was this. and who were those so called experts.
was always going to play ff/ or imo where he plays his best footy chf.
you sure the expectations wasnt that jack most certainly should play as a third tall option in his first few yrs while his body develops.
Jack would be a very good FP IMO. He plays as a de-facto one half the time as it is. People forget that, for better or worse, positions are often not as concrete and absolute in the modern game and under modern gameplans as they used to be.
The move to CHF is a good one though, due to the simple fact he looks to be the only KPP on the list even remotely close to being able to manage the role.
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i remember when JR was considered by experts as a third tall fwd/flanker lmao
when was this. and who were those so called experts.
was always going to play ff/ or imo where he plays his best footy chf.
you sure the expectations wasnt that jack most certainly should play as a third tall option in his first few yrs while his body develops.
no, the expectations were that he would never be able to hold down a key forward position. crazy i know. plenty of the same people now think he cant play CHF. each to their own i guess...
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Last night confirmed playing 4 talls is obviously too many :P. We had no one quick and mobile at ground level to win the crumbs. Thankfully it was just a mickey mouse preseason game.
So by round 1, the number of talls will need to be cut down to most likely Jack and Vickery with possibly just the one more out of Griffs or Hampson as the 3rd tall who can pinch-hit as the 2nd ruckman?
ps. More goalkicking practice needed as well thanks to 3.8 after half-time :P.
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Agree on both fronts MT, we looked very slow with so many talls, we still really lack that small crumbing forward too.. :-\
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Agree on both fronts MT, we looked very slow with so many talls, we still really lack that small crumbing forward too.. :-\
Shane Edwards? ;D