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Title: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: one-eyed on February 13, 2014, 02:13:59 PM
From the AFL website ...

The pre-season games will give the Tigers a chance to evaluate their rookies, with the club able to name two as nominated rookies before the season starts.
 
Last year, Richmond promoted Ricky Petterd and Orren Stephenson before the season in the same situation.
 
Rookies Todd Banfield, Anthony Miles and Stephenson have been named to face the Demons, while Ben Darrou, Matt Thomas and Cadeyn Williams have also impressed so far this summer and could get their opportunity to shine against the Magpies.
 
"It's going to be a needs basis as to who we put up on what we feel we need," Daly said.
 
"There's good competition there but there's no rush to put them up so the NAB Challenge is a good competition for us to be able to see these guys and how they perform and what best fits the team."
 
Coach Damien Hardwick told AFL.com.au last month the Tigers viewed its rookies as "injury replacement players" rather than development prospects. 

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-13/finals-axe-drives-axel
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: gerkin greg on February 13, 2014, 02:16:09 PM
Darrou and Miles
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: Tiger Tragic on February 13, 2014, 02:17:49 PM
Banfield covers a most immediate need.  Miles and Darrou are the two for long term promotion.
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 13, 2014, 02:20:49 PM
Banfield covers a most immediate need.

Can you elaborate
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: gerkin greg on February 13, 2014, 02:21:05 PM
Banfield covers nothing, so far down the small fwd pecking order might as well be dead
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: Tiger Tragic on February 13, 2014, 02:26:16 PM
Banfield covers a most immediate need.

Can you elaborate

Someone to play small forward.  Don't get me wrong, the bloke is a dud that can't kick to save himself but he does create opportunities.  He will be replaced by Lloyd and McDonough before the end of the year but I reckon we need to slot him in upfront until those blokes show something at VFL level.
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 13, 2014, 02:59:19 PM
IMV they shouldn't promote any of them yet, there's really no need

But I think they will promote Stephenson and either Banfield or Thomas
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: pmac21 on February 13, 2014, 03:14:03 PM
Went to Thomas to add grunt to the midfield
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 13, 2014, 03:18:32 PM
IMV they shouldn't promote any of them yet, there's really no need


So you're saying that if Miles or Banfield impress and warrant a senior spot they shouldn't be elevated? Great logic
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: Penelope on February 13, 2014, 03:20:51 PM
IMV they shouldn't promote any of them yet, there's really no need

But I think they will promote Stephenson and either Banfield or Thomas
why would you not promote anyone? it costs you nothing yet gives another two options come selection time. If two blokes do enough to warrant promotion you may as well do it.
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 13, 2014, 03:29:38 PM
WP has been drinking the purple stuff again
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: gerkin greg on February 13, 2014, 03:46:29 PM
pathetic
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 13, 2014, 04:29:51 PM
why would you not promote anyone? it costs you nothing yet gives another two options come selection time. If two blokes do enough to warrant promotion you may as well do it.

But what if they don't warrant it, do you promote for the sake of it?

Also, you are locked into keeping them promoted for a fixed period of time and can't bring someone else up for a specific need if it is req'd

Say they decided to promote Banfield and Thomas before round 1. Then one of rucks or key backs goes to down for a number of weeks but not long enough to be put on the LTIL then you are unable to promote say Stephenson or Darrou to cover.

I would just rather wait until the season starts, see how the go in the VFL and more importantly keep a spot in case we need to promote someone to cover a set position down the track or alternatively give someone an opportunity because they've played consistent footy for longer period than 3 weeks.

Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: tiga on February 13, 2014, 04:36:34 PM
Miles by a Mile.
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: Penelope on February 13, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
why would you not promote anyone? it costs you nothing yet gives another two options come selection time. If two blokes do enough to warrant promotion you may as well do it.

But what if they don't warrant it, do you promote for the sake of it?

Also, you are locked into keeping them promoted for a fixed period of time and can't bring someone else up for a specific need if it is req'd

Say they decided to promote Banfield and Thomas before round 1. Then one of rucks or key backs goes to down for a number of weeks but not long enough to be put on the LTIL then you are unable to promote say Stephenson or Darrou to cover.

I would just rather wait until the season starts, see how the go in the VFL and more importantly keep a spot in case we need to promote someone to cover a set position down the track or alternatively give someone an opportunity because they've played consistent footy for longer period than 3 weeks.
I thought i did say "if they warrant it."

Isnt there a cut off point to promote rookies to available spots and after that it cant be done until half way through the season or if someone is put on the LTIL?
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: Diocletian on February 13, 2014, 04:51:30 PM
Darrou, followed by Banfumbles who, despite his flaws, has genuine line-breaking pace that's sorely needed since White's depature. Skill -wise he's really not much worse than White was (let's be honest here)and probably has a higher ceiling (and dare say, might even be a touch quicker -or at least on par with White's pace of a few years ago). )Haven't seen enough of Miles yet to form an opinion and not going to get carried away by pre-season form. Reports so far are merely reminicient of reports of Pat Contin two pre-seasons ago.
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: gerkin greg on February 13, 2014, 05:29:21 PM
Darrou, followed by Banfumbles who, despite his flaws, has genuine line-breaking pace that's sorely needed since White's depature. Skill -wise he's really not much worse than White was (let's be honest here)and probably has a higher ceiling (and dare say, might even be a touch quicker -or at least on par with White's pace of a few years ago). )Haven't seen enough of Miles yet to form an opinion and not going to get carried away by pre-season form. Reports so far are merely reminicient of reports of Pat Contin two pre-seasons ago.

Aye fair post. Prefer never to see leprechaun banfumbles in a richmond jumper full stop and I think Nipper Gordon is a better upgrade and replacement for old Greg. I've seen a bit of Miles and unlike Contin has played AFL, but yer the hype is over the top. Just reckon more inside mids available on the senior list the better. They'll prob elevate Thomas.
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 13, 2014, 05:31:45 PM
I thought i did say "if they warrant it."



Yes you did  :thumbsup

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Isnt there a cut off point to promote rookies to available spots and after that it cant be done until half way through the season or if someone is put on the LTIL?

I was under the understanding that we can promote 2 players at anytime because we have 2 spots available. Last year I thought we promoted Pettard before round 1 and Stephenson later on - but could be wrong on that
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: bojangles17 on February 13, 2014, 06:47:56 PM
My mail is Milesy has been quietly going about his business quietly, not leaving a stone unturned to be a fixture from r 1 ...not to mention Darou , an embarrassment of riches really  :clapping
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 13, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
Im upset at the lack of options. Why could we only vote for up to 6 players at one time?
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 14, 2014, 10:02:56 PM
We must listen to WP and not elevate Miles.
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: The Big Richo on February 14, 2014, 10:13:42 PM
Angus Graham.
Title: Re: Which rookie(s) should be elevated onto the senior list before round 1?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 14, 2014, 11:21:24 PM
Calm down ffs