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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 28, 2014, 06:57:27 PM

Title: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: one-eyed on April 28, 2014, 06:57:27 PM
No surprise there was plenty of discussion about us today on SEN.

Mark Robinson:

Richmond players need to ask themselves we know we are trying but are we trying collectively? Or are we insular?

Chip, chip, chip footy allows the opposition to get numbers back. It's a catch 22. Even if you get it forward there's too many numbers behind the ball blocking the space to score.

Message this week should be 'move it on at all costs'. Problem is even if one takes it on, if no one else does then it gets turned over. That player with the ball needs the support of those around him to protect and offer options for the 'play on' to succeed. There needs to be the cry - 'When we play on then everyone goes together; when we need to get back then everyone goes together'. They are playing like Carlton two weeks ago.

If we leave people to do individual things then [quoting Al Pacino] we die as individuals. It needs to be a collective effort. There's nothing worse than when you are fighting one against two and you turn around and see there's a teammate 10m away with his hands on his hips. You just glare at him asking what the hell is going on!

Deledio has become Richmond's best player because he's missed the past month and they miss his run.

Robbo has a theory that Hardwick now believes the run and gun style of last year won't work in finals (eg: Elim final) and Richmond needed to toughen up [defensively]. Problem is when you tell players to control the ball more, it unsettles their thinking and they go the whole way and stop.

Brereton:

Hardwick needs to rebuild the confidence in that team. The trust is gone in teammates and once a player turns over the ball a few times then that trust is very hard to get back. Teammates no longer run hard as they would when they know that their workrate will pay off. Instead they don't run hard forward to position because they don't want their man getting on the end of a turnover and hurting them the other way. Last year, Richmond ran hard for each other but not this year.

Richmond no longer hurt teams on the rebound as they did last year. In the past against Hawthorn, they didn't allow the Hawks time to set up defensively behind the ball and they didn't allow the Hawks to cut through them the other way. Yesterday, they were pedestrian.

Deledio is a loss because naturally he's a good player but compared to any other established club (non-GWS/GC), Maric's loss to Richmond is greater than any other club. He is a warrior and they badly miss that.

Schwarz:

Schwarz agreed Maric's absence being huge.

He also said there's a number of Richmond players who don't go hard enough at the contest. Without naming names, they'd rather go one handed than put their whole body on the line and take the oncoming hit.
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: Lozza on April 28, 2014, 07:32:03 PM
No surprise there was plenty of discussion about us today on SEN.

Mark Robinson:

Richmond players need to ask themselves we know we are trying but are we trying collectively? Or are we insular?

Chip, chip, chip footy allows the opposition to get numbers back. It's a catch 22. Even if you get it forward there's too many numbers behind the ball blocking the space to score.

Message this week should be 'move it on at all costs'. Problem is even if one takes it on, if no one else does then it gets turned over. That player with the ball needs the support of those around him to protect and offer options for the 'play on' to succeed. There needs to be the cry - 'When we play on then everyone goes together; when we need to get back then everyone goes together'. They are playing like Carlton two weeks ago.

If we leave people to do individual things then [quoting Al Pacino] we die as individuals. It needs to be a collective effort. There's nothing worse than when you are fighting one against two and you turn around and see there's a teammate 10m away with his hands on his hips. You just glare at him asking what the hell is going on!

Deledio has become Richmond's best player because he's missed the past month and they miss his run.

Robbo has a theory that Hardwick now believes the run and gun style of last year won't work in finals (eg: Elim final) and Richmond needed to toughen up [defensively]. Problem is when you tell players to control the ball more, it unsettles their thinking and they go the whole way and stop.

Brereton:

Hardwick needs to rebuild the confidence in that team. The trust is gone in teammates and once a player turns over the ball a few times then that trust is very hard to get back. Teammates no longer run hard as they would when they know that their workrate will pay off. Instead they don't run hard forward to position because they don't want their man getting on the end of a turnover and hurting them the other way. Last year, Richmond ran hard for each other but not this year.

Richmond no longer hurt teams on the rebound as they did last year. In the past against Hawthorn, they didn't allow the Hawks time to set up defensively behind the ball and they didn't allow the Hawks to cut through them the other way. Yesterday, they were pedestrian.

Deledio is a loss because naturally he's a good player but compared to any other established club (non-GWS/GC), Maric's loss to Richmond is greater than any other club. He is a warrior and they badly miss that.

Schwarz:

Schwarz agreed Maric's absence being huge.

He also said there's a number of Richmond players who don't go hard enough at the contest. Without naming names, they'd rather go one handed than put their whole body on the line and take the oncoming hit.
Chaplin, Grigg and Edwards the 3 main culprits. Everyone except Hardwick sees what's happening.
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 28, 2014, 07:37:11 PM
how is shane edwards more soft than houli
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 28, 2014, 07:48:54 PM
Dermie is right about Maric
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 28, 2014, 07:50:43 PM
Dermie is right about Maric

Spiritual leader
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: TigerLand on April 28, 2014, 07:52:27 PM
Why does the whole RFC fan base see this, the whole media industry see this, the rest of the AFL supporting industry see this...

Yet the drones that get paid running our club have wasted a pre season and 6 games and counting to do this..
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: Lozza on April 28, 2014, 07:52:38 PM
how is shane edwards more soft than houli
you're right, how could I have forgotten Houli, maybe it's just wishful thinking hoping he will disappear from the team like he does on field during a game.
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: torch on April 28, 2014, 10:47:40 PM
Hardwick doesn't have the players to play his 2014 game plan.

Our players have talent and good runners!

We have players playing in wrong positions.

We have players who shouldn't be playing.

Hardwick has favourite's and WILL be SACKED at years end IF we continue to play this style.

There is only 1 stat that matters, GOALS!

Plan to kick GOALS!

At Three Quarter Time

R1 v Gold Coast: 6
R2 v Carlton: 12
R3 v Western Bulldogs: 9 (3 at Half Time)
R4 v Collingwood: 3
R5 v Brisbane: 9 (4 at Half Time)
R6 v Hawthorn: 4

43 GOALS, 7.16 GOALS AVG.

KICK MORE GOALS HARDWICK!
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: Lozza on April 29, 2014, 07:39:43 AM
Our lack of goals relates directly to our slow stagnant build up. It's so easy to defend against a side who takes 10 minutes off the clock while kicking the ball backwards and sideways before finally getting into the 50 zone. The Hawks consistently got in behind our defenders by fast ball movement. The other issue is that yes we have improved at locking the ball in the 50 but clearly don't have the class/nous once it's in there to convert consistently. A lot of the time its simply bad setup around the ball, we all tend to be drawn towards the ball which then pops out the side and lo and behold no tigers there, happens all too often.
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 29, 2014, 07:59:56 AM
What about opposition kick ins
Our set ups are comedy
Ball comes straight out of our F50 with ease
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 29, 2014, 02:55:11 PM
What about opposition kick ins
Our set ups are comedy
Ball comes straight out of our F50 with ease

Has been for decades
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: TigerMonk on April 29, 2014, 03:34:41 PM
Dermie pointed the player out in one slash  ;D goes in one handed & not with the body. SHANE EDWARDS everyone  ;D
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 29, 2014, 03:42:17 PM
Leave Tambling alone Monk he plays his role perfectly

Quickest hands in the business I'm told
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: TigerMonk on April 29, 2014, 03:45:38 PM
Leave Tambling alone Monk he plays his role perfectly

Quickest hands in the business I'm told

 :o how is our our old mate Tambling, Running around in the SANFL l beleive at 27 years old, He making a impact yet  ;D
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: Chuck17 on April 29, 2014, 09:52:09 PM
We should have taken Buddy
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 29, 2014, 10:30:35 PM
What about opposition kick ins
Our set ups are comedy
Ball comes straight out of our F50 with ease

^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 01, 2014, 12:22:13 PM
Ralph crapping on about Griffith's getting dropped.

Flog
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: tigs2011 on May 01, 2014, 12:30:54 PM
Ralph crapping on about Griffith's getting dropped.

Flog
Huh?
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: tony_montana on May 01, 2014, 05:09:16 PM
Ralph crapping on about Griffith's getting dropped.

Flog

what he say?
Title: Re: SEN's Richmond discussion
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 01, 2014, 07:18:52 PM
Griffiths wouk be dropped

It is indeed the coach that is the flog