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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mat073 on May 01, 2014, 07:35:27 PM
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Look ,there is little doubt we will go 2-5 after the game on Sunday.
Then comes Melbourne and GWS to make it 4-5 ( fingers crossed)....if we are 2-7 , we will probably have a new coach.
I like many OERites have been less than impressed with what the club has dished up in 2014...but can it be turned around.
History does say yes...let me present exhibit A - Fremantle 2006
After round 13 the Dockers find themselves 10th on the ladder with a 6-7 record with coach Chris Connolly under the pump big time.
Dockers then win the next 9 games in a row to finish the season with a 15-7 record and find themselves in 3rd place.
Even more ridiculous is exhibit B-Brisbane 2001
The Lions lose a close match to Adelaide in round 9 and slump to 4-5. Brisbane do however win every match for the rest of the year including 2 finals and the grand final...also win the following two premierships... and are runners up the year after that
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Personally think we will drop one of GWS or Melb and then the season is shot
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Personally think we will drop one of GWS or Melb and then the season is shot
I'm happy to kick the chair under WAT if he's hanging from the ceiling after we go 2 and 7 ;D
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Personally think we will drop one of GWS or Melb and then the season is shot
No game is a certainty when we're losing games to teams like GC and the Doggies.
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We can still scrap into the eight by not playing kids
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If we can win the next 4-5 straight, yea of course , we are on track :shh
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We are on track to repeat 2002 the year after our finals season of 2001.
Win 15 games in 01 make it 16 with a final. 7-15 in 2002. Two years later a sppon.
7-15 this year with a couple of nothing wins in July/ August.
Split Enz had a song about History repeating. It was written about us.
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We are on track to repeat 2002 the year after our finals season of 2001.
Win 15 games in 01 make it 16 with a final. 7-15 in 2002. Two years later a sppon.
7-15 this year with a couple of nothing wins in July/ August.
Split Enz had a song about History repeating. It was written about us.
was always going to be the problem making finals with a very average list. covered over a lot of cracks and sent us down the wrong stuff in the road. its not too late to turn around and take the right stuff but it will mean plenty of short term pain. they just dont have the balls or vision to do that.
it is scary at just how similar the situation is to the frawley yrs and the wallace yrs.
make no mistake we have some vgood footballers and it should not be too hard to build a side around them but it wont be in a yr or two time.
we stopped our rebuild well short of where we needed to stop because finals came along. finals just papered over the many cracks. it was always the concern going into this yr.
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If we can win the next 4-5 straight, yea of course , we are on track :shh
So you are saying we will beat Geelong?
We can't even beat an egg, so how are we going to beat Geelong?
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If we can win the next 4-5 straight, yea of course , we are on track :shh
So you are saying we will beat Geelong?
We can't even beat an egg, so how are we going to beat Geelong?
I said if we can win the next 4-5 ........we re a chance, if jack can kick 7 and astbury holds Hawkins to <2 and we contain Johnson and selwood, we re right in it :shh
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If we can win the next 4-5 straight, yea of course , we are on track :shh
So you are saying we will beat Geelong?
We can't even beat an egg, so how are we going to beat Geelong?
I said if we can win the next 4-5 ........we re a chance, if jack can kick 7 and astbury holds Hawkins to <2 and we contain Johnson and selwood, we re right in it :shh
If I pick 6 numbers all in the same square and those numbers in that square get drawn out in no particular order on Saturday I'll win the lottery.
It's easier to win the lottery come Saturday night than for this RFC side to beat Geelong on Sunday let alone win 4 or 5 on the trot after that.
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Personally think we will drop one of GWS or Melb and then the season is shot
I'm happy to kick the chair under WAT if he's hanging from the ceiling after we go 2 and 7 ;D
Get inline. You're behind me and 70 others for that job.
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Club has seriously gone backwards over the last period and I fear an elongated period of no finals again.
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As bad as it sounds
I just don't care
Whatever.... :help
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The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop.
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The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop.
:clapping
We need a emoticon smiley that encapsulates this. :huh3
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We haven't played any footy at all this year that makes me want to watch a replay of it. The wins have been atrocious and the losses worse. I have stopped watching all footy related shows, I'll still watch the tigers but halfway through think to myself 'I should have stayed outside and kept painting'.
I could handle it if we were 2-4 but playing some good footy, footy that shows we're not far off clicking and stringing 6-7 wins together, but we are so far off the pace it's not funny.
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We haven't played any footy at all this year that makes me want to watch a replay of it. The wins have been atrocious and the losses worse. I have stopped watching all footy related shows, I'll still watch the tigers but halfway through think to myself 'I should have stayed outside and kept painting'.
I could handle it if we were 2-4 but playing some good footy, footy that shows we're not far off clicking and stringing 6-7 wins together, but we are so far off the pace it's not funny.
Exactly 2012 we were 1-4 after 5 but with abit of pose we may have knocked off Geelong and West Coast . All in all our footy was pleasant to the eye and our effort was clearly there hence we knocked off Sydney and Hawthorn a month later. Aaaargh those were the glory days. :help
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The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop.
:clapping
We need a emoticon smiley that encapsulates this. :huh3
How's this one?
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The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop.
:clapping
We need a emoticon smiley that encapsulates this. :huh3
How's this one?
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We haven't played any footy at all this year that makes me want to watch a replay of it. The wins have been atrocious and the losses worse. I have stopped watching all footy related shows, I'll still watch the tigers but halfway through think to myself 'I should have stayed outside and kept painting'.
I could handle it if we were 2-4 but playing some good footy, footy that shows we're not far off clicking and stringing 6-7 wins together, but we are so far off the pace it's not funny.
Exactly 2012 we were 1-4 after 5 but with abit of pose we may have knocked off Geelong and West Coast . All in all our footy was pleasant to the eye and our effort was clearly there hence we knocked off Sydney and Hawthorn a month later. Aaaargh those were the glory days. :help
Hard to argue with this.
Good post Tucker.
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We haven't played any footy at all this year that makes me want to watch a replay of it. The wins have been atrocious and the losses worse. I have stopped watching all footy related shows, I'll still watch the tigers but halfway through think to myself 'I should have stayed outside and kept painting'.
I could handle it if we were 2-4 but playing some good footy, footy that shows we're not far off clicking and stringing 6-7 wins together, but we are so far off the pace it's not funny.
Good post. Agree with the wins. Equally uninspiring football.
After this weekend our ladder position will be a true reflection of where we are at and I expect we'll finish somewhere about there come seasons end.
Just nowhere near enough talent on the list.
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Quite like them both but this more so :thumbsup
Mr OE - please arrange ;D
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It just works and describes our season
Picture tells a thousand words they say
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Will we modify the headline on Monday to "Is 2-5 the end of the world....or is there still hope?"?
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Mate Geelong is all over, Im worried about the Dees the week after.
Said it before hawks match we are no chance just want to see us dare to dream and back ourselves and I can cop it with hope in sight, alas it was far from that against the hawks.
If we can change it around against the Cats we might be a chance against the Dees, BUT if the play the same, well Im worried
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We haven't played any footy at all this year that makes me want to watch a replay of it. The wins have been atrocious and the losses worse. I have stopped watching all footy related shows, I'll still watch the tigers but halfway through think to myself 'I should have stayed outside and kept painting'.
I could handle it if we were 2-4 but playing some good footy, footy that shows we're not far off clicking and stringing 6-7 wins together, but we are so far off the pace it's not funny.
totally agree. Our wins have come about because of the ineptitude of the other sides. Not because we have played well
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The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop.
:clapping
We need a emoticon smiley that encapsulates this. :huh3
How's this one?
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one of our post game media interviews by the looks lol
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Maybe the GWS game will be our Port Adelaide moment ?
The way we're playing they'll beat us. If so Dimma must be sacked and then we can get someone in who clears out all his love children.
We still have some talent on the list to build around.
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No hope mate unfortunately, the club is finished for 2014
Next year marks 15 years since Spud Frawley took over.
Our return has been 3 finals for 1 win. 1 of those losses against a 9th placed team so effectively last year we didnt make finals if you ask me.
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No hope mate unfortunately, the club is finished for 2014
Next year marks 15 years since Spud Frawley took over.
Our return has been 3 finals for 1 win. 1 of those losses against a 9th placed team so effectively last year we didnt make finals if you ask me.
Yep only 3 coaches in 15 seasons with that record to show for it suggests to me that this century at least we actually haven't been eating enough of our own.
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No hope mate unfortunately, the club is finished for 2014
Next year marks 15 years since Spud Frawley took over.
Our return has been 3 finals for 1 win. 1 of those losses against a 9th placed team so effectively last year we didnt make finals if you ask me.
Yep only 3 coaches in 15 seasons with that record to show for it suggests to me that this century at least we actually haven't been eating enough of our own.
You're right. We're now too scared of the media backlash so we keep coaches , coaching staff and players who should be chopped for far too long. All under the false guise of stability.
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Yeah of course we could make the finals, anything is possible, but whats the point of making the finals if we are only there just to make the up the numbers and aren't real contenders.
Yeah experience is essential, but that is about it.
I want to make the finals and actually hear other teams say to themselves, "Oh poo we got Richmond the first week of the finals".
THAT'S WHAT I WANNA HEAR.
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ive looked at the draw or what is left of it and the best i can come up with is 10 wins. that is if we are fit and not missing key players. there are no wins for us only losses and 50/50 games imo.
in some ways im hoping the likes of petterd edwards king grigg houli and the rest of the usual suspects play most games as it will mean decent picks come seasons end.
it wont matter who we play, lots of kids or as many mature players as possible we wont be playing finals. its this that the club just cant grasp. playing so many mature hacks each week is a week further away from moving forward and eventually becoming a good side. its another week of development missed by a player who may or may not be able to do better and take us forward.
fb/ morris - chaplin - rance. we need to do better than all three imo but they are the best we have for each role. all regulars.
hb/ vlastuin - astbury - mcintosh/dea. reckon vlastuin and astbury are keepers and regulars anyway. need to find out if dea can take the next step and mcintosh needs the experience.
c/ deledio - martin - ellis. all regulars anyway.
hf/ gordon - griffiths - lennon. gordon has shown enough to at least be kept, lennon like mcintosh needs the experience.
ff/ a edwards - riewoldt - lloyd. azza is a short term fix. easily the best sml/med fwd we have. lloyd has to be persevered with.
r/ maric - cotchin - miles. miles for foley the rest are regulars
int/ jackson - conca - helbig - knights / hampson helbig is the only one who we need to see play and give a decent go to. the rest are regulars anyway.
rotations thru the side for development and maintaining some sort of experience . thomas - elton - williams - mcdonough - arnot - darrou - mcbean - foley.
two oldies in thomas and foley for experience. must have a good look at the rest if at all possible. would noe be looking to fast track mcbean and elton if possible.
we can have the best of both worlds here. we can play kids and keep good structure and experience and stay reasonably competetive. but we arent going to hurt the win side of the ledger too much, yes its a step back towards development. its about finding out what blokes who havent had much of a go can do. we know what the regulars can do and far too many just aint good enough to take us forward. yet they are more advanced than many we need to play.
many of the named 30 odd above are most likely not good enough as well, but its time to give em a decent go and find out what they have to offer its time to get games and experience into as many of the kids as possible.
forget about the win loss ledger for now. it should never have been about it with the list we have. lets focus on development and improvement right across the board.
there was always a chance we could improve on last yr and go backwards in the win loss column. sad thing is we have gone backwards because there has been no improvement in fact many have reverted to type.
not named and only get a game if they can improve weaknesses in their games in the magoos.
batchelor, s edwards, grigg, grimes, houli, king, newman, ohanlon, petterd, stephenson, vickery, banfield. grimes aside id happily cut or trade the lot of em come seasons end. some should be safe because players in the other list are likely to fail.
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I still think we will make it, but I'm a a bit tard
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Of course there's hope.
We have 15 years to make our next our finals series and keep our one finals series a decade since our last GF. Get it done Tiges. :thumbsup
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You bunnies are like my wife when the kids won't goto sleep. Catastrophisers. Lets give another month or 2 before we start flogging over Dimmas corpse. Not a great start, yes but sheesh some of the reactions on here :-\
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You bunnies are like my wife when the kids won't goto sleep. Catastrophisers. Lets give another month or 2 before we start flogging over Dimmas corpse. Not a great start, yes but sheesh some of the reactions on here :-\
It's the cycle of Skata. (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/toilet/full-of-crap.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)
Where have you been?
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I have us in 14 wins finishing 5th again :chickenlittle :chickenlittle