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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: 🏅Dooks on May 23, 2014, 03:42:09 PM

Title: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 23, 2014, 03:42:09 PM
looking back at Richmonds whipping boys over the years, are the class of 2014 much worse?

ill throw a few names up:

the past: G Tivendale, J McMuffin, A Fiora, J Bowden, Gaspar, Holland, Merenda

class of 2014: Vickery, Griggs, Edwards, Hampson , Chumplin.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Rampstar on May 23, 2014, 05:13:54 PM
looking back at Richmonds whipping boys over the years, are the class of 2014 much worse?

ill throw a few names up:

the past: G Tivendale, J McMuffin, A Fiora, J Bowden, Gaspar, Holland, Merenda

class of 2014: Vickery, Griggs, Edwards, Hampson , Chumplin.

Yes
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 23, 2014, 05:33:54 PM
Bit harsh throwing Gas and Joel in there
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: TigerLand on May 23, 2014, 05:36:07 PM
Was Gas a whipping boy? Choco Merenda wasn't that bad of a whipping boy, maybe late in his career.

Joel did cop it so did Tivendale but I liked him, Tambling must be put in there.

Our whipping boys now days are awful players, Chaplin... awful... Chuck in Petterd as well.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: WA Tiger on May 23, 2014, 05:36:20 PM
looking back at Richmonds whipping boys over the years, are the class of 2014 much worse?

ill throw a few names up:

the past: G Tivendale, J McMuffin, A Fiora, J Bowden, Gaspar, Holland, Merenda

class of 2014: Vickery, Griggs, Edwards, Hampson , Chumplin.

Who was the longest whipping boy, that's the question, it shows how long we keep poo players for. Edwards is a classic example, 8 stuffing years and more to come. Tiv and Bowden were much better than Edwards and shouldn't even be on this list.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Coach on May 23, 2014, 05:39:36 PM
looking back at Richmonds whipping boys over the years, are the class of 2014 much worse?

ill throw a few names up:

the past: G Tivendale, J McMuffin, A Fiora, J Bowden, Gaspar, Holland, Merenda

class of 2014: Vickery, Griggs, Edwards, Hampson , Chumplin.

Who was the longest whipping boy, that's the question, it shows how long we keep pooe players for. Edwards is a classic example, 8 stuffing years and more to come. Tiv and Bowden were much better than Edwards and shouldn't even be on this list.

A whipping boy isn't necessarily a poor footballer. A whipping boy can be a target of the chicken littles eg Joel Bowden even though he was a very good footbaler.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 23, 2014, 05:55:41 PM
Ben Holland would have to win the award of biggest whipping boy
Played 125 games at Punt Rd which 5 were brilliant earning Brownlow votes ( you teased us Ben ) the other 120 were totally useless averaging 6.4 kicks a game
Then wanted $400 a year and went to Melbourne
He was well whipped by then !!
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 23, 2014, 06:05:52 PM
Joel and Gas should not be in that group.

Tivendale was descent early as was Merenda.

Fiora and Mclovin were useless from day one.

That being said the class of 2014 is far worse IMO. Edwards and Grigg make the others look like champions
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: RollsRoyce on May 23, 2014, 06:58:49 PM
looking back at Richmonds whipping boys over the years, are the class of 2014 much worse?

ill throw a few names up:

the past: G Tivendale, J McMuffin, A Fiora, J Bowden, Gaspar, Holland, Merenda

class of 2014: Vickery, Griggs, Edwards, Hampson , Chumplin.

You forgot Kane Pettifer. GAWD, how I used to despise him, calling him everything from Petticoat to Pitiful.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 23, 2014, 07:08:23 PM
looking back at Richmonds whipping boys over the years, are the class of 2014 much worse?

ill throw a few names up:

the past: G Tivendale, J McMuffin, A Fiora, J Bowden, Gaspar, Holland, Merenda

class of 2014: Vickery, Griggs, Edwards, Hampson , Chumplin.

You forgot Kane Pettifer. GAWD, how I used to despise him, calling him everything from Petticoat to Pitiful.

Fair call. A top 10 pick from memory too
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: TigerMonk on May 23, 2014, 07:14:49 PM
add Rewoldt, he is top of my cracking whip for years. Nothing worse then a player who sooks & points when he spends more time laying on the ground. gee he even trips over his own feet  ;D
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Diocletian on May 23, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
Bowden -talented but soft & unaccountable. Wasted career.

Grigg =/= JON

Edwards < Tambling

Hampsud < Graham

Thomas =/= Farmer


The crime of the current duds that exceeds those of duds past is that they're dragging down & killing the careers of arguably the three most talented players we've had at the club since the early 80's in Deledio, Martin & Cotchin and we'll probably lose at least the latter two eventually because of it.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: TigerMonk on May 23, 2014, 07:38:41 PM
Bowden -talented but soft & unaccountable. Wasted career.

Grigg =/= JON

Edwards < Tambling

Hampsud < Graham

Thomas =/= Farmer


The crime of the current duds that exceeds those of duds past is that they're dragging down & killing the careers of arguably the three most talented players we've had at the club since the early 80's in Deledio, Martin & Cotchin and we'll probably lose at least the latter two eventually because of it.

Bowden a wasted career lol  = 2 times all australian in a poo richmond side
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Diocletian on May 23, 2014, 07:54:04 PM
Bowden -talented but soft & unaccountable. Wasted career.

Grigg =/= JON

Edwards < Tambling

Hampsud < Graham

Thomas =/= Farmer


The crime of the current duds that exceeds those of duds past is that they're dragging down & killing the careers of arguably the three most talented players we've had at the club since the early 80's in Deledio, Martin & Cotchin and we'll probably lose at least the latter two eventually because of it.

Bowden a wasted career lol  = 2 times all australian in a poo richmond side

Well woopdee stuffin' doo....
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: TigerMonk on May 23, 2014, 07:58:00 PM
Joel Bowden deserves better than that from the Richmond supporters
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: yellowandback on May 23, 2014, 07:58:21 PM
Bowden -talented but soft & unaccountable. Wasted career.

Grigg =/= JON

Edwards < Tambling

Hampsud < Graham

Thomas =/= Farmer


The crime of the current duds that exceeds those of duds past is that they're dragging down & killing the careers of arguably the three most talented players we've had at the club since the early 80's in Deledio, Martin & Cotchin and we'll probably lose at least the latter two eventually because of it.

Knights, Richardson, Campbell  were every bit as talented as the current lot
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: TigerMonk on May 23, 2014, 08:09:45 PM
Bowden -talented but soft & unaccountable. Wasted career.

Grigg =/= JON

Edwards < Tambling

Hampsud < Graham

Thomas =/= Farmer


The crime of the current duds that exceeds those of duds past is that they're dragging down & killing the careers of arguably the three most talented players we've had at the club since the early 80's in Deledio, Martin & Cotchin and we'll probably lose at least the latter two eventually because of it.

Knights, Richardson, Campbell  were every bit as talented as the current lot

l agree
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Diocletian on May 23, 2014, 08:57:02 PM
 Knights & Richo I can cop...but Helicopter Campbell The Circle Work King? Are you two on the stuffin' turps?
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 23, 2014, 09:38:18 PM
Knights & Richo I can cop...but Helicopter Campbell The Circle Work King? Are you two on the stuffin' turps?

Was also very self focused, team second.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: TigerLand on May 23, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
Joel Bowden deserves better than that from the Richmond supporters

Agree he does, he along with a few other Richmond champions could have been so much more if they were at another club.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: RollsRoyce on May 23, 2014, 11:37:48 PM
Joel Bowden deserves better than that from the Richmond supporters

Nah - I could never hack Joel Bowden. I always felt he would have been happy if his brother Patrick had stayed at the club, and the pair of them could pass it endlessly from one half back flank to the other, going absolutely nowhere. Then they could counter their critics by pointing at their stats and saying "I had 30 touches".
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: RollsRoyce on May 23, 2014, 11:39:32 PM
Knights & Richo I can cop...but Helicopter Campbell The Circle Work King? Are you two on the stuffin' turps?

Agree. I would substitute Paul Broderick for Campbell.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: yellowandback on May 24, 2014, 04:48:03 AM
Loved Brodders, good call.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Simonator on May 24, 2014, 08:40:18 AM
Vickery has had a shocker. Should be traded at seasons end.
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 24, 2014, 08:45:06 AM
Vickery has had a shocker. Should be traded at seasons end.

you dont think it has anything to do with the coach? I mean who is the forward coach and what have they done down there.

Il tell you what SFA. Its up to the coach to not accept medicority and Hardwick seems to reward it.

Why does Vickery care? He gets dropped to the reserves plays a good game there, and his in the side again for 2 months.

There is no incentive to play well and that goes with Titch Tambling and the other spuds who occupy many spots on our list.

Vickery is no more a dud than Graham and Tambling dont be fooled.



Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Chuck17 on May 24, 2014, 10:00:08 AM
I think the concentration of whipping boys at one time has increased in this year with our recycling
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 24, 2014, 10:06:46 AM
I think the concentration of whipping boys at one time has increased in this year with our recycling

Good call. It really has reached a pinnacle this year.

Us supporters deserve better
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Gigantor on May 24, 2014, 10:15:45 AM
This is just my 2 cents worth,but I think at least some part of our woeful performance can be attributed to a lack of fitness.We appear so slow.But maybe that's because of our poor attitude
Title: Re: Whipping boys ~ do 2014's duds take the cake?
Post by: Tigershark on May 24, 2014, 11:24:57 AM
You can add JON and MGoof a well