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Title: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 27, 2015, 01:17:43 PM
TIGER TROUBLES

Mark Robinson
Herald-Sun
April 27, 2015



Of all the questions in footy, and there’s a squillion, how do you answer the question that is the Richmond Football Club.

Why are they so soft on any given weekend?

It is five years and four matches into Damien Hardwick’s tenure and he’s still pulling faces in the post-match, born of immense frustration and let down.

He says his team can beat anyone on their day, but that comment is wearing thin.

Forget last year because coaches live in the present and hope for the future and the present is pretty ordinary and the future is not promising.

Melbourne outmuscled Richmond on Friday night and a comment like that hasn’t been said for a decade.

The focus is on Hardwick, but it should also be on the players.

The coach is under pressure. He’s had five years to mould and educate and recruit, but somewhere in all that is a soft underbelly which rears its head too often.

Talk of replacing Hardwick is not on the agenda.

He is contracted until the end of the 2016 season but if the same insipid performances are still being put out by the Tigers this time next year, then the focus on the coach and what he has been able to achieve will be intense.

Maybe the Tigers have got the best out of themselves. Maybe it’s seventh to 11th with this group. Maybe the talent isn’t good enough for top four.

Next Saturday’s contest against Geelong at the MCG is now pivotal - for both teams.

The Tigers are a strange bunch.

One week they rip the G apart, the next week it swallows them whole.

Clearly, Hardwick is in an interesting spot. He’s playing kids with established players and veterans and somewhere in all that is a leadership group.

Shane Edwards is proving to be one of the most consistent performers at Punt Rd and Jack Riewoldt doesn’t stop presenting and running, and others lift for various occasions.

But here we are again wondering if Dustin Martin is an elite player.

He’s not. He’s a good player not having the impact he’s expected to.’

The kids at Melbourne - Jesse Hogan, Aaron vandenBerg, Christian Salem, Angus Brayshaw - are ahead of their counterparts at Richmond and they aren’t all early Round 1 draft picks.

The Tigers have Geelong, North Melbourne, Collingwood and Port Adelaide over the next month.

It is a defining month.

They will likely start underdogs in every match, which mightn’t be a bad thing.

Because they surely don’t thrive under any expectations.

http://www.news.com.au/national/the-tackle-alastair-clarksons-angry-response-warrants-examination-but-not-hefty-penalty/story-e6frfkp9-1227322085491
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 27, 2015, 01:22:19 PM
No article on Essendon Robbo ?
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: wayne on April 27, 2015, 02:03:36 PM
Essendon are a strange bunch....
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: wayne on April 27, 2015, 02:04:55 PM
The kids at Melbourne - Jesse Hogan, Aaron vandenBerg, Christian Salem, Angus Brayshaw - are ahead of their counterparts at Richmond and they aren’t all early Round 1 draft picks.


Yes they are, apart from Vandenberg  ::)
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 27, 2015, 02:48:26 PM
The kids at Melbourne - Jesse Hogan, Aaron vandenBerg, Christian Salem, Angus Brayshaw - are ahead of their counterparts at Richmond and they aren’t all early Round 1 draft picks.


Yes they are, apart from Vandenberg  ::)
Correct. Hogan is basically a number 1 pick, Brayshaw equal 2 according to Roos and Salem was 9.......
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 27, 2015, 02:51:42 PM
How did they get Hogan ? Draft concessions for the poor again ?
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: wayne on April 27, 2015, 02:59:20 PM
How did they get Hogan ? Draft concessions for the poor again ?

Mini draft
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 27, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
How did they get Hogan ? Draft concessions for the poor again ?

Mini draft
Why was there a mini draft ? What was the reason ?
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 27, 2015, 03:12:31 PM
How did they get Hogan ? Draft concessions for the poor again ?
the theory was that the expansion clubs could trade underage kids who would go very early in the ND the following year for experienced players.  In practice they traded for early picks in the corresponding current draft.
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: wayne on April 27, 2015, 03:43:34 PM
How did they get Hogan ? Draft concessions for the poor again ?

Mini draft
Why was there a mini draft ? What was the reason ?

For teams to trade a star player to get a chance to grab an underage star. Backfired a little, teams traded picks instead of players.

Jack Martin, Brad Crouch, Jesse Hogan and Jaegar O'Maera are all the mini draft picks.
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 27, 2015, 03:48:51 PM
Another handout for the demons ay
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on April 27, 2015, 08:58:01 PM
Another handout for the demons ay

yep did a deal with GWS - In order to ensure GWS would not to take Viney in the first few picks(something they were seriously considering), Melbourne gave them picks 3 and 14(The Scully compensation picks) for pick 4, Dom barry and Jesse Hogan mini draft.

so GWS ended up with first 3 picks, Melbourne with pick 4,  plus Jess Hogan mini draft and a guarantee "wink wink nudge nudge" to be able to make out like bandits and get viney a top 3 pick at pick 26.


I hate this cheating scumbag club just a smidgen less Essendon, they have gotten away with so much - it is grossly unfair at how many times these clowns have been allowed to go back to the well.

They had missing from their team on Friday - Viney realistically a top 5 pick, Petracca a top 2 pick, Trengrove top 2 pick and Toumpas top 4 pick. Not to mention they had a waste of a number 1 pick in Watts running around, how many stuffing chances can one club get???!!!! That is an insane amount of very high end top picks. This is one of the major reasons why I am starting to detest the AFL.... coupled with the Essendon saga, I just wanna smash heads. stuff em all!
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on April 27, 2015, 09:00:57 PM
Another fluff article to placate the morons  :lol
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 1980 on April 27, 2015, 09:03:39 PM
Another fluff article to placate the morons  :lol

Where do you think we'll finish this year BJ ?
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 27, 2015, 09:19:49 PM
Another fluff article to placate the morons  :lol

Correct weight everything is rosy on field and in the coaching and footy department.

Why would Robbo want to stick the boot in. What did we ever do to him? >:(
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 27, 2015, 10:09:40 PM
Said it in another thread

We deserve every single whack that comes our way this week.

Dish up what we did on Friday, we deserve the whacks from whoever wants to dish them out

No one to blame but ourselves

Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on April 27, 2015, 10:43:15 PM
Another fluff article to placate the morons  :lol

Where do you think we'll finish this year BJ ?
6th, I've conceded top 4 is going  to be tough  :-\
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 27, 2015, 10:43:58 PM
Jack watts is like a more feminine version of Ellen De Generous.
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Andyy on April 27, 2015, 11:33:29 PM
What a joke they have way more top picks than we do. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous...
Title: Re: Tiger Troubles .............. (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tdy on April 29, 2015, 09:57:18 PM
Blobbo can't see past his black and red pin cushions. Bring back Mike Sheahan at the HUN now he knew a thing or two.