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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: pmac21 on June 20, 2015, 03:44:57 PM
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Think we need to target the following 2 free agents.
Hannebury and Kruezer
Then trade somehow to get Motlop.
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Kreuzer is too injury prone but we do need a young ruckman.
Wouldn't mind giving Dangerfield a fair dinkum crack
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Still only young at 25.
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Yeah still too injury prone I reckon. Wouldn't mind a 20-22 year old ruckman to develop under maric for his last few years then give us atleast 6 years.
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Dangerfield may be great but fmd he is overpriced :thumbsdown
Hanneberry and trade for Motlop
Try for another small fwd from another club plus a younger ruck type and use whatever picks left is left on midfield depth
Why not try for Trevor? ?
I'm sure there is plenty of players available in f.a or trade this year.
The club has done well so far to resist the urge and wait till this season to bring in talent.
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Think we need to target the following 2 free agents.
Hannebury and Kruezer
Then trade somehow to get Motlop.
:pray
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lol I wanted to be an astronaut too. Keep dreaming lads
Our best chance is Carlisle and Treloar if GWS continue south. Offer Treloar more that pies and on ladder positions a better pick. Give them Edwards too
Danger would not cost us a lot once we delist about 6 players that are currently on 300k plus. Issue is he won't come to us like most a grade players.
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lol I wanted to be an astronaut too. Keep dreaming lads
Our best chance is Carlisle and Treloar if GWS continue south. Offer Treloar more that pies and on ladder positions a better pick. Give them Edwards too
Danger would not cost us a lot once we delist about 6 players that are currently on 300k plus. Issue is he won't come to us like most a grade players.
I would take that
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Who is left of any worth on the free agency list? Dangerfield and S. Selwood? Kreuzer is restricted, would be great if he could stay fit . . . big if though. Maric is knocking on the door of 30.
Matt Suckling is a possibility to leave Hawthorn according to Dunstall. Is being pushed out of their side and now trialled on the wing/half forward line.
If we are to get Motlop or Hannebury it'd be through trade and they would need to nominate Richmond as their desired destination. Will cost us our first pick at a minimum but I'd happily pay that for either of them. They're exactly the type of players we need.
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I wouldnt give up a first pick for Motlop. downgrade perhaps, but not give it up.
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I wouldnt give up a first pick for Motlop. downgrade perhaps, but not give it up.
What do people rate his worth on the market? I would have thought a pick from 10-20 for him personally, but I'll admit I rate him highly.
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I wouldnt give up a first pick for Motlop. downgrade perhaps, but not give it up.
Me either. Don't hate him as a player but is pretty overrated I reckon.
Don't see us as any chance with Danger and Treloar. Carlisle seems legitimately unhappy at the Bombers. Would require big money (and there's some question marks there) but I reckon if we plonked him at CHB he'd be a pillar there for 7-8 years.
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We need to be bold and brave in the off season.We need to go after the big ticket players and cut out the list cloggers ,to the point of making some tuff decisions.Its now time we made a huge play of stepping out of that middle pack of teams
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To me the obvious players to cut would be petard,Loyd,gordon,hampson,arnott,..and add in a few retirements as well.
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Hampson has another year left on his contract.
Carlisle for me is a must. The rumour is the Dogs but if we can dangle a carrot in front of him, Big Club, MCG, Dreamtime big games I reckon we can sway him.
Another class mid would be great too.
Luenberger or Lycett as a ruck.
The draft can do the rest.
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Hampson has another year left on his contract.
Carlisle for me is a must. The rumour is the Dogs but if we can dangle a carrot in front of him, Big Club, MCG, Dreamtime big games I reckon we can sway him.
Another class mid would be great too.
Luenberger or Lycett as a ruck.
The draft can do the rest.
hasn't worked in over a decade
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To me the obvious players to cut would be petard,Loyd,gordon,hampson,arnott,..and add in a few retirements as well.
Add Grigg, Knights ... maybe Dea, Elton, Foley?
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I recon if we got Carlisle we make finals for the next 5, 6 , 7 years.
If we get Motlop as well, we could be top 4
Get little Jakey Neade as well and buy a new trophy case because will will need it. :lol
BE BOLD TIGERS- our A graders in Jack, Cotch, Lids, Dusty and Rance won't be around forever!
:gotigers
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i am all for carlisle and motlop if he FA, not for draft picks as they will demand our first most likely
Neade too. We need the torres straight islanders back in this team.
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i am all for carlisle and motlop if he FA, not for draft picks as they will demand our first most likely
Neade too. We need the torres straight islanders back in this team.
Reckon Neade is getable for a late pick. Seems to be on the outer at Port. But it would need to be a late pick not a 2nd rounder
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i am all for carlisle and motlop if he FA, not for draft picks as they will demand our first most likely
Neade too. We need the torres straight islanders back in this team.
Angus, if you want a player like Carlisle you will need to give up a first round pick. I have no problem with that. Think Conca and even Lennon for a minute and you'll change your thinking.
Motlop, I'd give a second rounder for but only if we were to to get that extra pick buy giving up Conca for example to The Eagles for a second round pick.
And Neade I'd give Port McDonough.
I'd even be happy to give Griff away for a decent pick. With the hope of McBean and or McKenzie stepping up.
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Would people do Girff for Carlisle?
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Would people do Girff for Carlisle?
The trouble is we need a key forward (if you lose big ben) and key back
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Would people do Girff for Carlisle?
Where do I sign? :pray
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Would people do Girff for Carlisle?
Yes - would also finally give me the 2009 draft night that I wanted.
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Would people do Girff for Carlisle?
Nah
:outtahere
:snidegrin
:rollin
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i am all for carlisle and motlop if he FA, not for draft picks as they will demand our first most likely
Neade too. We need the torres straight islanders back in this team.
Angus, if you want a player like Carlisle you will need to give up a first round pick. I have no problem with that. Think Conca and even Lennon for a minute and you'll change your thinking.
Motlop, I'd give a second rounder for but only if we were to to get that extra pick buy giving up Conca for example to The Eagles for a second round pick.
And Neade I'd give Port McDonough.
I'd even be happy to give Griff away for a decent pick. With the hope of McBean and or McKenzie stepping up.
I should have clarified motlop I wouldn't trade away picks but happy to trade some out for carlisle.
Griff for Carlisle. Wouldn't hesitate and as for Conca well id trade him for piece of home made salami
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Would people do Girff for Carlisle?
Nah
Why not?
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Would people do Girff for Carlisle?
Nah
Why not?
Outside of simply wanting to be different to everyone else ;D
Because I think we need Griff as 2nd tall forward and chop out ruck.
Also reckon more import stay I don't think the Bumblingd would be interested in him. They' need speed and I think we can Carlisle by offering up a mid
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i am all for carlisle and motlop if he FA, not for draft picks as they will demand our first most likely
Neade too. We need the torres straight islanders back in this team.
Jake Neade is from Elliott. About as far away from the Torres Strait Islands as you are Dan!
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Would people do Girff for Carlisle?
Nah
Why not?
Outside of simply wanting to be different to everyone else ;D
Because I think we need Griff as 2nd tall forward and chop out ruck.
Also reckon more import stay I don't think the Bumblingd would be interested in him. They' need speed and I think we can Carlisle by offering up a mid
IMO they need a tall forward more than they need speed hence I went with the Griff scenario. I reckon we need someone like Carlisle to be one of our 2 KPD more than we need Griff to be one of our KPF (IMO). Not that we shouldn't be chasing both...
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i am all for carlisle and motlop if he FA, not for draft picks as they will demand our first most likely
Neade too. We need the torres straight islanders back in this team.
Jake Neade is from Elliott. About as far away from the Torres Strait Islands as you are Dan!
Hahaha. It's all the same to me.
Just get one aboriginal in. We have been starving for one.
Still can't believe we didn't have a crack at Garlett, yet instead choose guys like Lloyd and Hunt.
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Morning Gents,
Just got some inside info and if its true or not we won't know til trade season but i'll fire away.
Patty Dangerfield is going to request Geelong, Adelaide is going to match.
Geelong will then have to trade and what my tomato sauce is saying, will be Motlop and a draft pick for Danger.
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Hutchy agreeing with your info, potsclub.
Hutchy said last night on Footy Classified, Adelaide will only get one first round pick as compo if they don't match Geelong's offer for Dangerfield. So the Crows should sit down with Geelong now and work out a way to get two first rounders. He believes Motlop will be part of the puzzle. Initially, he said Richmond was keen on Motlop before saying it was Essendon who wanted Motlop and Geelong could get the Bombers' first pick and pass that along with their own first round pick onto Adelaide for Dangerfield.
Lloyd said he couldn't understand, after hearing Paul Connors (Dangerfield's manager) say Dangerfield wanted to play in premiership, why Dangerfield wouldn't consider Richmond or Collingwood who are both on the rise compared to Geelong. Hutchy and Barrett both replied, if Geelong add Dangerfield, Henderson & Scott Selwood then they would automatically become a better side.
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Well this will be more interesting than the actual season of football wont it. Lets just hope we are in amongst it. Not all over until the fat lady has sung though.
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Is there an actual is of all the FA 's?
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in all this everyone seems to be missing what Richmond really need is a small cruming forward that kick 30-40 goals for us yeah its all good have the big 3 but we need a spread unless we are prepared to put dusty up there keep him there and get another mid in that may work well but when the ball hits the ground we have no-one there lets me honest llyod, lambert, Gordon wouldn't get a game at any other club.
Also we were keen on trying carlisle last year and I think he maybe a chance depending if hird is still there next year lets face it chaplin is good but slow and his kicking can be very dangerous at times like on the wing on Friday night when he couldn't hit a target on his opposite side from 5 meters a way he is getting slower. Grimes has been huge this year and nick up there to help the man mountain rance out
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Just shows why we need to target players the ilk of Dangerfield.
If Geelong becomes instantly competitive with such additions then so does Richmond.
Imagine upgrading our 3 worst players with Dangerfield, Lachie Henderson and Scott Selwood. That would make us a top 4 contender for sure. Just need to throw the sink at Danger and Henderson. Danger $6million for 5 years. Henderson would probably cost $500k to get him to come over. Selwood would probably go to Geelong anyway because of Joel.
And need to have a crack at Coniglio, Treloar and Dixon.
Cut the likes of Petterd, Foley, Newman, Knights etc. Free up coin!
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No chance of Dangerfield coming to Togerland. Will be at Collingwood in 2015, put your house on it. :shh
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Gold cocaine fc kids up for grabs?
Z smith, c Dixon pls
And Congo
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Gold cocaine fc kids up for grabs?
Z smith, c Dixon pls
And Congo
Essendon keen on Zac Smith apparently.
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No chance of Dangerfield coming to Togerland. Will be at Collingwood in 2015, put your house on it. :shh
ZERO chance of us beating the Swans ring a bell...... :whistle ::) :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Do you hang out at "Togerland" much :lol
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I'd be raiding the Gold Coast. Give David Swallow a a place to call home. The Swallow family are perfectionists. No chance he would be wrapped up in this rubbish. Get him here.
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i am all for carlisle and motlop if he FA, not for draft picks as they will demand our first most likely
Neade too. We need the torres straight islanders back in this team.
Jake Neade is from Elliott. About as far away from the Torres Strait Islands as you are Dan!
Hahaha. It's all the same to me.
Just get one aboriginal in. We have been starving for one.
Still can't believe we didn't have a crack at Garlett, yet instead choose guys like Lloyd and Hunt.
Shed and Drummond not good enough?
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Gold cocaine fc kids up for grabs?
Z smith, c Dixon pls
And Congo
No to Dixon. Not versatile/ fit enough to play in our current structure (like how Vickery was CHF pushing up - note how many third man ups) or Griffiths playing primarily through the wings and through the backline vs. Sydney. Dixon couldn't do that. Its why the three tall forward line seems to be working fairly reasonably.
Would rather Kreuzer over Smith. Again, versatility.
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Gold cocaine fc kids up for grabs?
Z smith, c Dixon pls
And Congo
No to Dixon. Not versatile/ fit enough to play in our current structure (like how Vickery was CHF pushing up - note how many third man ups) or Griffiths playing primarily through the wings and through the backline vs. Sydney. Dixon couldn't do that. Its why the three tall forward line seems to be working fairly reasonably.
Would rather Kreuzer over Smith. Again, versatility.
I'd play Dixon chb
Peptide enthusiasts
Dixon
Reid
Anyone
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Gold cocaine fc kids up for grabs?
Z smith, c Dixon pls
And Congo
No to Dixon. Not versatile/ fit enough to play in our current structure (like how Vickery was CHF pushing up - note how many third man ups) or Griffiths playing primarily through the wings and through the backline vs. Sydney. Dixon couldn't do that. Its why the three tall forward line seems to be working fairly reasonably.
Would rather Kreuzer over Smith. Again, versatility.
I'd play Dixon chb
Peptide enthusiasts
Dixon
Reid
Anyone
We need a CHB? I kinda of get the whole upgrade on Chaplin stuff, but not for the money that Dixon seems to be potentially getting I wouldn't want him to play a position he isn't suited for. Also, we have more obvious holes than a CHB.
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Gold cocaine fc kids up for grabs?
Z smith, c Dixon pls
And Congo
No to Dixon. Not versatile/ fit enough to play in our current structure (like how Vickery was CHF pushing up - note how many third man ups) or Griffiths playing primarily through the wings and through the backline vs. Sydney. Dixon couldn't do that. Its why the three tall forward line seems to be working fairly reasonably.
Would rather Kreuzer over Smith. Again, versatility.
I'd play Dixon chb
Peptide enthusiasts
Dixon
Reid
Anyone
We need a CHB? I kinda of get the whole upgrade on Chaplin stuff, but not for the money that Dixon seems to be potentially getting I wouldn't want him to play a position he isn't suited for. Also, we have more obvious holes than a CHB.
What are they
I'd say key defenders is not a strong point
Should of keep Darrou
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Gold cocaine fc kids up for grabs?
Z smith, c Dixon pls
And Congo
No to Dixon. Not versatile/ fit enough to play in our current structure (like how Vickery was CHF pushing up - note how many third man ups) or Griffiths playing primarily through the wings and through the backline vs. Sydney. Dixon couldn't do that. Its why the three tall forward line seems to be working fairly reasonably.
Would rather Kreuzer over Smith. Again, versatility.
I'd play Dixon chb
Peptide enthusiasts
Dixon
Reid
Anyone
We need a CHB? I kinda of get the whole upgrade on Chaplin stuff, but not for the money that Dixon seems to be potentially getting I wouldn't want him to play a position he isn't suited for. Also, we have more obvious holes than a CHB.
What are they
I'd say key defenders is not a strong point
Should of keep Darrou
Id say another quality inside mid. A small crumbing forward. Another half back flanker. And a back up ruck maybe. We also have Astbury and Elton who can play CHB
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Barrett said tonight, Jaeger O'Meara is considering his future as early as the end of this year (he's contracted until 2016) and he has bought a property in Melbourne.
Day, Gorringe and Dixon are the other Suns most believe will be leaving Gold Coast at the end of the season to move to new clubs.
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O'Meara would be a massive get. Future superstar and then some.
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O'Meara would be a massive get. Future superstar and then some.
yep that's a move I'd be ecstatic about :thumbsup
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Only concern is his knees...two really bad injuries within six months, second one put him out for the entire season.
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Only concern is his knees...two really bad injuries within six months, second one put him out for the entire season.
This concerns me too. And it's a chronic issue that will never fully heal.
Looks a gun though...
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You'd still surely have to take a punt on him if you could though.
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Gold cocaine fc kids up for grabs?
Z smith, c Dixon pls
And Congo
No to Dixon. Not versatile/ fit enough to play in our current structure (like how Vickery was CHF pushing up - note how many third man ups) or Griffiths playing primarily through the wings and through the backline vs. Sydney. Dixon couldn't do that. Its why the three tall forward line seems to be working fairly reasonably.
Would rather Kreuzer over Smith. Again, versatility.
I'd play Dixon chb
Peptide enthusiasts
Dixon
Reid
Anyone
We need a CHB? I kinda of get the whole upgrade on Chaplin stuff, but not for the money that Dixon seems to be potentially getting I wouldn't want him to play a position he isn't suited for. Also, we have more obvious holes than a CHB.
What are they
I'd say key defenders is not a strong point
Should of keep Darrou
Id say another quality inside mid. A small crumbing forward. Another half back flanker. And a back up ruck maybe. We also have Astbury and Elton who can play CHB
Good post
But I would say they are two different questions
1. What do we most need to improve best 22
2. What do we need overall for list
For example, we are ok for this moment in time for rucks. But in the mid-long term future we need rucks.
Currently, I would say the two weakest spots in the 22 are Grigg ad Chaplin. Newman is questionable too. Hunt needs to pull the finger out
Jake the needle carlise would strengthen us significantly if he was played played in the back along side rance, grimes. Vlastuin
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You'd still surely have to take a punt on him if you could though.
Yep certainly would
Far too much upside not to take a punt
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Gold cocaine fc kids up for grabs?
Z smith, c Dixon pls
And Congo
No to Dixon. Not versatile/ fit enough to play in our current structure (like how Vickery was CHF pushing up - note how many third man ups) or Griffiths playing primarily through the wings and through the backline vs. Sydney. Dixon couldn't do that. Its why the three tall forward line seems to be working fairly reasonably.
Would rather Kreuzer over Smith. Again, versatility.
I'd play Dixon chb
Peptide enthusiasts
Dixon
Reid
Anyone
We need a CHB? I kinda of get the whole upgrade on Chaplin stuff, but not for the money that Dixon seems to be potentially getting I wouldn't want him to play a position he isn't suited for. Also, we have more obvious holes than a CHB.
What are they
I'd say key defenders is not a strong point
Should of keep Darrou
Id say another quality inside mid. A small crumbing forward. Another half back flanker. And a back up ruck maybe. We also have Astbury and Elton who can play CHB
Good post
But I would say they are two different questions
1. What do we most need to improve best 22
2. What do we need overall for list
For example, we are ok for this moment in time for rucks. But in the mid-long term future we need rucks.
Currently, I would say the two weakest spots in the 22 are Grigg ad Chaplin. Newman is questionable too. Hunt needs to pull the finger out
Jake the needle carlise would strengthen us significantly if he was played played in the back along side rance, grimes. Vlastuin
I wouldn't say they are the two 'weakest' spots. Grigg has played quite well this season, as has Chaplin. And the reality is that in todays modern game, 1v1 is very hard to win if your a key back. See Rance v Franklin first half with no mid-pressure and then compare it to the second half. As I said before too, Astbury and Elton are already there.
Notwithstanding, the weakest parts I see in our game is a second half back stuff comparable to Houli. We play 7 backs traditionally, and Vlastuin is usually that player. When he can zone of his man he so much more effective. Your 7th usually is a midfielder, someone who can push up and forward depending on the forward structure of the opposition. The forward structure of the Swans was a main reason why Vlastuin was able to have so much impact as that 7th defender. A second half back flanker would ensure that Vlastuin (or the like) would have a lot more freedom to take this role. There was some talk of possibly Conca playing through this position (could work). Ultimately, Vlastuin (with a better tank) will be a midfielder anyway.
The second is probably a crumbing forward who can kick goals and apply defensive pressure. A Walters/ Gartlett/ Ballantyne type. Morris was okay for pressure, poor for goals. Shed is a gun clearance player. Maybe it could be Dan Butler? Who knows.
The other key with list depth for me is our younger players. Lets not forget Mennadue, Butler, Drummond, McBean, Castangna, McKenzie. McDonough and Short all of whom (bar Butler - who wasn't bad v the Dogs in NAB 1) have shown something. A few more years in our system, and there is no reason why these players cant strengthen the depth of the squad. We still have Conca, CEllis possibly even Knights to come back in and add depth to our list.
Where we are at, I think we need a bit more x factor or class. I'd love Motlop. I'd love Dangerfield. I am a huge fan of Carlise, and there is no question he would help us, but I don't see CHB being the biggest problem for us in either skill or depth.
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Gold cocaine fc kids up for grabs?
Z smith, c Dixon pls
And Congo
No to Dixon. Not versatile/ fit enough to play in our current structure (like how Vickery was CHF pushing up - note how many third man ups) or Griffiths playing primarily through the wings and through the backline vs. Sydney. Dixon couldn't do that. Its why the three tall forward line seems to be working fairly reasonably.
Would rather Kreuzer over Smith. Again, versatility.
I'd play Dixon chb
Peptide enthusiasts
Dixon
Reid
Anyone
We need a CHB? I kinda of get the whole upgrade on Chaplin stuff, but not for the money that Dixon seems to be potentially getting I wouldn't want him to play a position he isn't suited for. Also, we have more obvious holes than a CHB.
What are they
I'd say key defenders is not a strong point
Should of keep Darrou
Id say another quality inside mid. A small crumbing forward. Another half back flanker. And a back up ruck maybe. We also have Astbury and Elton who can play CHB
Good post
But I would say they are two different questions
1. What do we most need to improve best 22
2. What do we need overall for list
For example, we are ok for this moment in time for rucks. But in the mid-long term future we need rucks.
Currently, I would say the two weakest spots in the 22 are Grigg ad Chaplin. Newman is questionable too. Hunt needs to pull the finger out
Jake the needle carlise would strengthen us significantly if he was played played in the back along side rance, grimes. Vlastuin
I wouldn't say they are the two 'weakest' spots. Grigg has played quite well this season, as has Chaplin. And the reality is that in todays modern game, 1v1 is very hard to win if your a key back. See Rance v Franklin first half with no mid-pressure and then compare it to the second half. As I said before too, Astbury and Elton are already there.
Notwithstanding, the weakest parts I see in our game is a second half back stuff comparable to Houli. We play 7 backs traditionally, and Vlastuin is usually that player. When he can zone of his man he so much more effective. Your 7th usually is a midfielder, someone who can push up and forward depending on the forward structure of the opposition. The forward structure of the Swans was a main reason why Vlastuin was able to have so much impact as that 7th defender. A second half back flanker would ensure that Vlastuin (or the like) would have a lot more freedom to take this role. There was some talk of possibly Conca playing through this position (could work). Ultimately, Vlastuin (with a better tank) will be a midfielder anyway.
The second is probably a crumbing forward who can kick goals and apply defensive pressure. A Walters/ Gartlett/ Ballantyne type. Morris was okay for pressure, poor for goals. Shed is a gun clearance player. Maybe it could be Dan Butler? Who knows.
The other key with list depth for me is our younger players. Lets not forget Mennadue, Butler, Drummond, McBean, Castangna, McKenzie. McDonough and Short all of whom (bar Butler - who wasn't bad v the Dogs in NAB 1) have shown something. A few more years in our system, and there is no reason why these players cant strengthen the depth of the squad. We still have Conca, CEllis possibly even Knights to come back in and add depth to our list.
Where we are at, I think we need a bit more x factor or class. I'd love Motlop. I'd love Dangerfield. I am a huge fan of Carlise, and there is no question he would help us, but I don't see CHB being the biggest problem for us in either skill or depth.
Astbury is nearly 25 - and has only played 40 games. Astbury should have been playing in Chaplins spot all a long if we were serious about long term development of a flag backline - and not short term goals... Will Astbury be on the list next year? Is he happy not playing games? Do we know what he brings to the table? Not really cause he has not got a serious go at it. Ideally we keep him for a few more years but its a strange one.
Elton will be 23 next season and has been given two games.
football is subjective of course but I would say in comparison to; Rance, Reiwoldt, Deledio, Cotchin, Martin, Miles, Vlastuin, Grimes, Maric.... Chaplin is a 'weak' spot in the team. One can go into further detail but it seems to have been done enough. I for one would be happy with a Dixon or Reid of peptide enthusiastic to assist rance and add some speed and athleticism.
Grigg has been somewhat less crap than his norm but ideally we would have an upgrade. quite well is ok, but ideally Motlop or a expansion club team player will offer more upside.
I do agree Houli is close to the; "grigg, chaplin, hunt, newman", 'group'.
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Currently, I would say the two weakest spots in the 22 are Grigg ad Chaplin.
How come you've never mentioned that before?
Astbury is nearly 25 - and has only played 40 games. Astbury should have been playing in Chaplins spot all a long if we were serious about long term development of a flag backline - and not short term goals...
Don't think short term goals have anything to do with it. When a bloke has been injured for 2.5 years out of 3 it's nearly impossible to give him a game, yet we still managed too just for him to break down again.
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Newy & Foley are our only free agents now after our recent re-signings.
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AFL today distributed an updated list of 9 restricted, 44 unrestricted free agents to the 18 clubs across the competition, as at July 1.
Restricted Free Agents
P Dangerfield (Adel)
M Leuenberger (Bris)
M Kreuzer (Carl)
T Bellchambers (Ess)
T Hawkins (Geel)
C Garland (Melb)
S Dempster, S Gilbert (St K)
S Selwood (WCE)
Unrestricted Free Agents
Adel - B Martin, A Otten, S Thompson
Bris - J Adcock
Carl - D Armfield, A Carrazzo, D Ellard
Coll - nil.
Ess - C Dempsey, D Fletcher, T Pears, B Stanton, J Winderlich
Freo - R Crowley, P Duffield, L McPharlin, M Pavlich
Geel - J Bartel, C Enright, S Johnson, J Kelly, A Mackie, D Simpson, M Stokes
GC - nil.
GWS - nil.
Haw - M Suckling, B Whitecross
Melb - M Jamar
NM - M Firrito, N Grima, B Harvey, S McMahon, D Petrie, R Tarrant
Port - T Logan
Rich - N Foley, C Newman
St K - S Fisher, A Schneider
Syd - A Goodes, T Richards
WCE - S Butler, P McGinnity
WB - M Boyd, J Grant, D Morris
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane/with_replies
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Currently, I would say the two weakest spots in the 22 are Grigg ad Chaplin.
How come you've never mentioned that before?
Astbury is nearly 25 - and has only played 40 games. Astbury should have been playing in Chaplins spot all a long if we were serious about long term development of a flag backline - and not short term goals...
Don't think short term goals have anything to do with it. When a bloke has been injured for 2.5 years out of 3 it's nearly impossible to give him a game, yet we still managed too just for him to break down again.
Calm down you two
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Currently, I would say the two weakest spots in the 22 are Grigg ad Chaplin.
How come you've never mentioned that before?
Astbury is nearly 25 - and has only played 40 games. Astbury should have been playing in Chaplins spot all a long if we were serious about long term development of a flag backline - and not short term goals...
Don't think short term goals have anything to do with it. When a bloke has been injured for 2.5 years out of 3 it's nearly impossible to give him a game, yet we still managed too just for him to break down again.
I think much of th football world can see the weaker spots on the richmond senior side. And it ain't rance-jack-cotchin
How many vfl games has Astbury played?