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Title: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: one-eyed on October 02, 2015, 08:32:25 PM
Next up is Sam Lloyd who is out of contract.

The 25 year old played 12 games and kicked 13 goals in his second season of AFL. These 12 matches were split into two groups across the season. Lloyd played in the first 5 rounds including kicking a bag of 3 goals against the Blues to start 2015. After losing his place in the side, he didn't return to the seniors until round 17 and played out all of the final home & away matches, including scoring another two bags of 3 goals versus the Suns and Collingwood. As we all know, he was dropped for the Elimination final.


AFL career stats:
 
            Games   Kicks   Hballs      Disp.   Marks    Tackles   G.B    Clear.   In50  Re50  CP   UP    1%ers
2014:        8        7.3      4.6       11.9     3.4         3.5      10.5     
2015:       12       5.9      4.3       10.3     3.2         1.8      13.8     0.7     2.3     0.2   4.8  5.7     0.3

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2451
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2014096


So do we hold onto Lloyd or trade/delist him?
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: WA Tiger on October 02, 2015, 08:37:14 PM
If we can trade for an upgrade do it otherwise keep for one more year if we can't fill the list.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Andyy on October 02, 2015, 08:55:09 PM
Keep him and keep playing him.

Improved on some of his deficiencies this year, still has some work to go though.

Should have played him and Lennon in the EF. Both deserved their spots.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 02, 2015, 09:09:13 PM
Keep him and keep playing him.

Improved on some of his deficiencies this year, still has some work to go though.

Should have played him and Lennon in the EF. Both deserved their spots.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 02, 2015, 09:21:18 PM
Not sold

But think he'll be a yeah
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Stalin on October 02, 2015, 09:23:04 PM
could do a lot worse than having a guy that has a knack of kicking goals

in the twos
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Yeahright on October 02, 2015, 11:28:07 PM
Keep only as a necessity. Wouldn't get anything for him and he is solid (at best) depth for a position we have no real quality in. Handy if some of our younger ones get injured again next year
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Heart of Darkness on October 03, 2015, 09:53:21 PM
Keep only as a necessity. Wouldn't get anything for him and he is solid (at best) depth for a position we have no real quality in. Handy if some of our younger ones get injured again next year

Pretty much this. Ordinary player with no trade value but still one of our better small/ mid sized forwards. Hopefully we see some improvement from Short, Lennon, Butler etc making Lloyd expendable.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: tdy on October 04, 2015, 08:22:46 PM
I dont see it in him myself. Small forwards have to have a goal instinct. I think he will be manufactured at best. Trade and trade in someone else.  Id only keep him if there are no better options like a fit Knights type who has goal instinct.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Yeahright on October 04, 2015, 08:31:49 PM
Goal instinct is close to the only real asset Lloyd has :huh
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Penelope on October 04, 2015, 08:33:53 PM
yeah he knows where the sticks are, and is a very good kick for goal.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: tdy on October 04, 2015, 11:18:14 PM
Maybe ive only seen his bad games but mostly when  I watched him he missed. Easy set shots too. I must have seen his 8 behinds and only 4 or 5 goals.  I saw him in one good game.  Was he dropped for injury or form?

Maybe  im emembering last year. His stats at goal look ok or maybe I turned off when he kicked straight.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Andyy on October 04, 2015, 11:28:52 PM
Has missed some sitters for sure but he's nothing like as bad as Griffiths was this year.

I would keep this guy 100% for sure. Will cost nothing, finds the goals, and has shown improvement. Can't ask for any more from a bloke of his ability.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: mat073 on October 05, 2015, 12:02:58 AM
The match winning goal against Hawthorn . ( from the boundary)

3 goals in the opening 12 minutes against Collingwood .

Very unlucky to lose his spot in the team .
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 05, 2015, 06:54:17 AM
3 goals in the opening 12 minutes against Collingwood .

Actually think is his biggest issue

3 goals in 12 minutes and then we didn't see him for the rest of the game

Yes he impacts but doesn't sustain it IMHO

But no doubt he'll be a yeah
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Penelope on October 05, 2015, 09:12:03 AM
thats pretty much an opportunist forwards lot.

Very few kick 3 goals in a short time, maintain that rate and go on to kick 20 for the game.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: scjhammo on October 05, 2015, 10:11:29 AM
lets be honest probably wouldn't get a game at another club I guess he is up against Gordon for a spot
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Yeahright on October 05, 2015, 04:34:05 PM
3 goals in the opening 12 minutes against Collingwood .

Actually think is his biggest issue

3 goals in 12 minutes and then we didn't see him for the rest of the game

Yes he impacts but doesn't sustain it IMHO

But no doubt he'll be a yeah

What do the yubbos think about X-factor now? Or does it not count because he isn't aboriginal
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Andyy on October 05, 2015, 06:17:09 PM
I'm happy with a small forward who jags 3 goals in 12 minutes. Would like him to do it every week though, or even every second week...
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 05, 2015, 07:02:06 PM
thats pretty much an opportunist forwards lot.

Very few kick 3 goals in a short time, maintain that rate and go on to kick 20 for the game.

Probably didn't explain my point very well

I accept he cannot maintain the goals but you'd want at least in contests, tackles, defensive pressure

He doesn't seem to do that and that's what comes concerns me
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Yeahright on October 05, 2015, 08:50:38 PM
Rioli's game is a perfect example of what you mean WP (I assume). Kicked 2 goals in the first quarter and looked like he was in for a big day. Didn't kick another (that I recall) but stayed influential throughout
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 05, 2015, 09:11:47 PM
Rioli's game is a perfect example of what you mean WP (I assume). Kicked 2 goals in the first quarter and looked like he was in for a big day. Didn't kick another (that I recall) but stayed influential throughout

Exactly
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: the claw on October 05, 2015, 10:10:44 PM
A lack of small fwds probably means he is safe. I have him borderline delisted depending on how many we cut. If kids like Butler cant force him out then we are in a world of pain in this area still.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Sam Lloyd?
Post by: Stalin on October 06, 2015, 10:15:22 AM
The match winning goal against Hawthorn . ( from the boundary)

3 goals in the opening 12 minutes against Collingwood .

Very unlucky to lose his spot in the team .

Tambling?