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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on December 01, 2015, 03:20:24 AM
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Does Richmond coach Damien Hardwick deserve contract extension?
Adam Baldwin
Foxsports.com.au
December 1, 2015
WITH Brad Scott and Adam Simpson putting pen to paper and Nathan Buckley expected to sign a new deal in the coming weeks, just three AFL coaches will enter 2016 without job security.
One of those is Alastair Clarkson, who after clinching his fourth premiership could just about name his price.
However, Brisbane’s Justin Leppitsch and Richmond’s Damien Hardwick need to put runs on the board early in the season to secure their futures.
Given where Brisbane’s list is placed, it’s not so much about wins and losses for Leppitsch, but establishing an environment where the young players want to stick around.
The same can’t be said about Hardwick’s Tigers who must take another step forward in 2016 or risk a season under the microscope.
Hardwick presents a curious case for Tigers chief Brendon Gale, who in recent weeks refused to speculate on a possible extension beyond the coach’s current two-year deal.
“It’s not something we’ve thought long and hard enough for just yet, I mean Damien is contracted for another year,” Gale told SEN on November 17.
“Right now, we are reviewing all aspects of our organisation and he is no different.
“We’ll form a view as to how we actually approach that in the not too distant future.”
The fact that Hardwick’s Tigers have bombed out in three straight elimination finals suggests there’s something missing at Tigerland.
But, that’s a too simplistic view given Hardwick has taken the club from second bottom to regular finalists during his six-year tenure.
Since taking over the reigns ahead of the 2010 season, he has helped develop a list and game plan good enough to defeat the all-conquering Hawthorn.
Hardwick has a career winning percentage of 48.9 per cent, behind only Jeff Gieschen (51.02) and Francis Bourke (56.52) at Richmond in the past 25 years.
He is also ranked third at the Tigers for most number of games coached (135) behind Tom Hafey (248) and Jack Dyer (222).
Despite what Adam Treloar believes, the Tigers are ready to challenge for a top four position and a premiership.
The star midfielder might have snubbed the Tigers, but through Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio, Alex Rance, Jack Riewoldt and new recruit Chris Yarran the team is not short on star power.
For periods over the past two seasons they’ve looked every bit a side ready to become a force of the competition.
In 2014, Hardwick’s men stormed into an elimination final by winning nine of the final 10 games. Between Round 7 and 17 last season they claimed eight out of 10.
They’ve now won 24 of their past 33 games.
However, what preceded and followed these streaks creates the headaches for Hardwick and his team.
In 2014, the Tigers were 3-10 at Round 14 before their unlikely finals berth ended in disaster at the hands of Port Adelaide in that unforgettable elimination final.
The spotlight was again on Hardwick last season when they won just two of the first six games and then gave up a 21-point lead to North Melbourne in another premature exit from the finals.
The 33-point lead they coughed up against arch enemies Carlton in the 2013 eliminator still hurts Richmond fans.
Gale and president Peggy O’Neal need to weigh up the benefits of endorsing Hardwick ahead of what is potentially a make-or-break season.
“Hardwick has to feel comfortable going into 2016 that he has time on his side to plan and prepare to win that 11th flag for the Tigers,” former coach and captain Kevin Barlett said.
But, others might argue a contract extension before a ball has been kicked in anger is bad business.
Hardwick still has 12 months to run on his current deal and is unlikely to be poached by a rival club.
If they pull the trigger and Richmond makes another sluggish start to the season then questions will be asked not only of Hardwick but why a new deal was necessary.
The equation for Hardwick is simple. Keep the Tiggy train on its current trajectory and a new deal will be a formality.
In the meantime, weathering constant questioning from the media over Hardwick’s future might just be a small price to pay.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-2015-does-richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-deserve-contract-extension/story-e6frf3e3-1227628350977
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I wouldn't might a conditional 12 month extension to prevent media speculation - the can always put a confidential termination clause if things go belly up and we don't want him to continue.
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Give Clarko anything he wants :shh
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Why give him an extension? If he can't take the heat of expectation then he can't handle the heat of finals. It's not like another team will poach him with his finals record.
Anyway, I like the man so that part of me would just love him to succeed. To have him third on the list of games coached at a club that is over one hundred years old is actually unbelievable.
I implore the club to let his contract run its course. They must have targets for him to achieve. If he meets these contracts, give him a new contract at the end of the year. If he doesn't, so long, farewell, Auf Wiedersehen, adieu.
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I think if we lost Dimma I'd like to try Andrew Collins. But i'm hoping dimma can get this group going.
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I think if we lost Dimma I'd like to try Andrew Collins. But i'm hoping dimma can get this group going.
I was having the same thoughts the other day. Seems to have a great footy brain.
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Collins who coached Coburg? Interesting.
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Andy Collins should definitely be a candidate for our next coach, seems to have had a positive impact at the clubs he has been involved with.
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It's time for Hardwick to stand up & show some balls here. The club has stuck by him and he has enjoyed the luxury of resources into the football department that no coach in the history of the club has ever had.
I think it would be good if he were to draw his own line in the sand. If he were to get on the front foot and announce to the footy community that he will not sign unless he is able to deliver us finals success. This not only ends the ongoing speculation but it relieves the club of the burden & puts the responsibility squarely on the shoulders of the whole football department & most of all the players. He can say that the club has supported him and he has full trust in his team, players & coaching staff to deliver for the fans and if they are able to achieve this then he will talk to the board about the possibility of renewing his contract.
If he did this I'm sure he would gain a lot of respect.
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Thompson
Voss
Lyon
Basset
Collins
Diver Lloyd's brother
Future:
Luke Hodge
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Velvet sledgehammers... Brother?
Geez
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Fremantle assistant, just appointed director of coaching at Geelong, highly rated and was in the mix for Carlton & Essendon jobs.
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I just vomited little bit in my mouth
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Why? Because you don't like his brother?
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It's like being mates with hitlers kids
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It's time for Hardwick to stand up & show some balls here. The club has stuck by him and he has enjoyed the luxury of resources into the football department that no coach in the history of the club has ever had.
I think it would be good if he were to draw his own line in the sand. If he were to get on the front foot and announce to the footy community that he will not sign unless he is able to deliver us finals success. This not only ends the ongoing speculation but it relieves the club of the burden & puts the responsibility squarely on the shoulders of the whole football department & most of all the players. He can say that the club has supported him and he has full trust in his team, players & coaching staff to deliver for the fans and if they are able to achieve this then he will talk to the board about the possibility of renewing his contract.
If he did this I'm sure he would gain a lot of respect.
He has, of sorts. His comments about how he has the list to be successful puts the onus fairly and squarely on him, barring a bad injury run. He actually got bagged for it.
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Premature call.
Bad decision.
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Premature call.
Bad decision.
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Velvet sledgehammers... Brother?
Geez
Ignorance is bliss...
His name is Simon and he was a TOUGH lock down full back for Williamstown and a gun player.
Comparing them is rediculous
Top bloke.
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It's is indeed ...
Tey don't give out flags for being a top bloke
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Its a resounding, NO!
That is of course, if you want the team to evolve.......toward finals improvement....by winning a flag.
Dimmer doesn't even want a flag.He says so himself when he declares that next year they need to win a final....because that would be physical improvement...that nobody will be able to deny.
Unfortunately he doesn't, and nor do the club, factor into the equation the fact that the glaring deficiency of true ruckmen or the inabilities of the concas and ellises etc.
The RFC is without doubt, the best smear kings on the block, now.
Well done and go stuff urself, Peggy.
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I wouldn't might a conditional 12 month extension to prevent media speculation - the can always put a confidential termination clause if things go belly up and we don't want him to continue.
WGAF about the media?
Weak minded football club
Weak attitude.
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Its a resounding, NO!
That is of course, if you want the team to evolve.......toward finals improvement....by winning a flag.
Dimmer doesn't even want a flag.He says so himself when he declares that next year they need to win a final....because that would be physical improvement...that nobody will be able to deny.
Unfortunately he doesn't, and nor do the club, factor into the equation the fact that the glaring deficiency of true ruckmen or the inabilities of the concas and ellises etc.
The RFC is without doubt, the best smear kings on the block, now.
Well done and go stuff urself, Peggy.
Everytime I 've heard Hardwick speak he says the same thing - 17 coaches walk away feeling failure every year. That indicates to me that his goal is a flag, not just winning a final. Having said that, he should not be given an extension. He should be told that we will wait until the end of the year to decide on a new contract. We've protected him enough. He needs to show he can handle the heat and the best way of doing that is by winning games.
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I've warmed to the highly condition based 1 year extension. Still think he should be made to earn it but I could live with 1 year. Question is though if it is highly condition based will that actually help reduce the pressure?
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The time is not right to extend Hardwick’s Richmond contract
Liam Sheedy
theRoar.com.au
Let’s cut to the chase, Richmond need to win a finals match, and until they do then a contract extension for Damien Hardwick is not warranted.
Richmond have certainly improved but a new contract seems to be a case of rewarding mediocrity, as mediocre is something Richmond have been for a long time.
The recent media interviews with Richmond president Peggy O’Neill seem to suggest the contract extension is on the table now and won’t be put on hold until the end of the season.
When Richmond appointed Hardwick it was done on sound reasoning, although any coach following Terry Wallace was going to look like a sound decision.
As a player Hardwick had tasted grand final success at both Essendon and Port Adelaide, and as an assistant coach Hardwick was involved in the Hawthorn 2008 premiership.
Coming from various successful environments and being involved in the rebuild at Hawthorn from a struggling team to finals participant was something that made Hardwick an attractive proposition for Richmond.
When Hardwick took over, Richmond had finished second bottom at the end of season 2009. Gradually the team began to improve and after six wins in 2010 they went on to win eight games in 2011 and 10 games in 2012. In 2013 they collected 13 wins and qualified for their first finals appearance since 2001.
In the past two seasons, Richmond has again qualified for finals football. With 15 wins in 2015 Richmond were not far away from a top-four finish. But despite all the positives the harsh reality is that Hardwick has zero finals wins from three attempts.
Should a coach who has not won a finals game in six years be looking at a contract extension?
Despite the improvement it is difficult to forget Richmond’s elimination final mauling at the hands of Port Adelaide in 2014, and losing to ninth-placed Carlton in 2013. The elimination final loss to North Melbourne this season was also the second finals loss under Hardwick in which Richmond entered the game as the higher ranked team.
Some football commentators believe a contract extension now will provide stability. It will give Richmond the best chance of success without disruptions around Hardwick’s coaching future.
A professional club should be able to perform regardless and if Richmond win a final in 2016 then the discussion for a contract extension can take place.
It is all well and good providing stability, but 1980 is the last time Richmond won a premiership and the 2001 semi-final against Carlton the last time Richmond had a finals win.
A contract extension now won’t show stability, it will show mediocrity is indeed alive and well at Tigerland.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/12/18/the-time-is-not-right-to-extend-hardwicks-richmond-contract/
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The time is not right to extend Hardwick’s Richmond contract
Liam Sheedy
theRoar.com.au
Let’s cut to the chase, Richmond need to win a finals match, and until they do then a contract extension for Damien Hardwick is not warranted.
Richmond have certainly improved but a new contract seems to be a case of rewarding mediocrity, as mediocre is something Richmond have been for a long time.
The recent media interviews with Richmond president Peggy O’Neill seem to suggest the contract extension is on the table now and won’t be put on hold until the end of the season.
When Richmond appointed Hardwick it was done on sound reasoning, although any coach following Terry Wallace was going to look like a sound decision.
As a player Hardwick had tasted grand final success at both Essendon and Port Adelaide, and as an assistant coach Hardwick was involved in the Hawthorn 2008 premiership.
Coming from various successful environments and being involved in the rebuild at Hawthorn from a struggling team to finals participant was something that made Hardwick an attractive proposition for Richmond.
When Hardwick took over, Richmond had finished second bottom at the end of season 2009. Gradually the team began to improve and after six wins in 2010 they went on to win eight games in 2011 and 10 games in 2012. In 2013 they collected 13 wins and qualified for their first finals appearance since 2001.
In the past two seasons, Richmond has again qualified for finals football. With 15 wins in 2015 Richmond were not far away from a top-four finish. But despite all the positives the harsh reality is that Hardwick has zero finals wins from three attempts.
Should a coach who has not won a finals game in six years be looking at a contract extension?
Despite the improvement it is difficult to forget Richmond’s elimination final mauling at the hands of Port Adelaide in 2014, and losing to ninth-placed Carlton in 2013. The elimination final loss to North Melbourne this season was also the second finals loss under Hardwick in which Richmond entered the game as the higher ranked team.
Some football commentators believe a contract extension now will provide stability. It will give Richmond the best chance of success without disruptions around Hardwick’s coaching future.
A professional club should be able to perform regardless and if Richmond win a final in 2016 then the discussion for a contract extension can take place.
It is all well and good providing stability, but 1980 is the last time Richmond won a premiership and the 2001 semi-final against Carlton the last time Richmond had a finals win.
A contract extension now won’t show stability, it will show mediocrity is indeed alive and well at Tigerland.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/12/18/the-time-is-not-right-to-extend-hardwicks-richmond-contract/
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