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Title: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 19, 2016, 02:07:20 AM
Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne

JAY CLARK
Herald Sun
April 18, 2016 7:23pm



RICHMOND ruckman Ivan Maric is expected to make his return against Melbourne on Sunday night.

After two games in the VFL, after overcoming a back complaint, the veteran big man is ready to help Damien Hardwick’s men halt their run of three-straight defeats.

But Brett Deledio’s availability remains uncertain as he attempts to prove he has overcome a quad problem at training this week.

Hardwick said last week Deledio was a chance to take on the Dees but the club will be cautious not to re-aggravate the problem that has dogged the gun ball-user since the end of the preseason.

Deledio has been running fine and last week was able to kick the football without any problems, turning a corner in his recovery, according to Hardwick

Neither Deledio or Maric have played a senior game this season, with Richmond slumping to 1-3 without the key pair.

But the duo’s return would give the club a huge personnel boost when the Tigers meet the much-improved Demons at the MCG.

Melbourne will also welcome back speedster Jeff Garlett from an ankle injury and half-back Bernie Vince from suspension.

Vince missed the win over Collingwood on Sunday but was put through a punishing running session as a replacement.

Richmond recruit Chris Yarran is still at least five weeks away from returning from foot surgery, according to the Tigers.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-form/ivan-maric-set-to-return-for-richmond-in-crunch-clash-against-melbourne/news-story/f435ded2573992ef43206377884017a4
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 19, 2016, 02:08:47 AM
Ivan on Ch 7 news last night said his body is feeling good. He's just waiting for Dimma to let him play and asked the reporter where Dimma was  ;D.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: cub on April 19, 2016, 08:34:41 AM
Gunna be a tough job up against Gawn, one thing is Ivy will give his all. Hope the rest of the midfield can do the same?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 19, 2016, 10:26:50 AM
Whether people want to agree or not Maric in is a massive in for us

We are a better side when he is out there

I am unwavering in my belief that we would not have lost against the Pies if Maric was playing, such is his importance as a leader and being able to step up and marshal our mids
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 19, 2016, 10:40:08 AM
Of course he is a "massive in" as Deledio will be, but gee when a team has to and I mean has to rely on two players to win games such as the Pies game (which you cannot possibly say we would have won with him in) then we are in trouble. :help



Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 19, 2016, 11:01:59 AM
Big Ivvy the Mike Brearley of RFC?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 19, 2016, 11:23:19 AM
I like Maric too but he didn't help us win the EF.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 19, 2016, 11:27:39 AM
I like Maric too but he didn't help us win the EF.
Gets monster by tall ruckmen at the centre bounces where he can't use his body properly.
Goldstein gave North's mids an armchair ride.
A bit worried about Gawn this week. Ivy can't jump and is 11cm shorter. When you factor in Gawn's longer arms and his leap he'd be getting at least 30cm above Ivan for the tap. That's a huge disadvantage. :help
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 19, 2016, 11:30:01 AM
Whether people want to agree or not Maric in is a massive in for us

We are a better side when he is out there

I am unwavering in my belief that we would not have lost against the Pies if Maric was playing, such is his importance as a leader and being able to step up and marshal our mids

He's really the ONLY leader
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 19, 2016, 11:30:10 AM
 :pullhair..........so now he's not going to be of any benefit because he is too short and he was crap in the EF??... :help
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 19, 2016, 11:41:20 AM
:pullhair..........so now he's not going to be of any benefit because he is too short and he was crap in the EF??... :help
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.

Get with it WAT! ;D

Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 19, 2016, 11:43:31 AM
:pullhair..........so now he's not going to be of any benefit because he is too short and he was crap in the EF??... :help
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.

Get with it WAT! ;D

 :snidegrin
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on April 19, 2016, 12:59:09 PM
Of course he is a "massive in" as Deledio will be, but gee when a team has to and I mean has to rely on two players to win games such as the Pies game (which you cannot possibly say we would have won with him in) then we are in trouble. :help

Yeah no way Maric would have saved us from that massive drubbing we had by Collingwood. I'd keep Hampson in because he was the only one out there trying to win us the game, evident by his smother attempt on the goal line where Grundy came in and kicked the sealer
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 19, 2016, 01:15:35 PM
Gawn will monster Skivvy Ivvy  :(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on April 19, 2016, 01:33:36 PM
Of course he is a "massive in" as Deledio will be, but gee when a team has to and I mean has to rely on two players to win games such as the Pies game (which you cannot possibly say we would have won with him in) then we are in trouble. :help

Yeah no way Maric would have saved us from that massive drubbing we had by Collingwood. I'd keep Hampson in because he was the only one out there trying to win us the game, evident by his smother attempt on the goal line where Grundy came in and kicked the sealer

Regardless of how he played I heard Hampson trained really well before the game
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 19, 2016, 01:36:25 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on April 19, 2016, 01:37:51 PM
If we had trelor we would of won too

Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: TigerMonk on April 19, 2016, 01:44:44 PM
Journo must be sleeping with the selectors to write a article like this.

half their life spent on guessing & will write anything  :santa
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 19, 2016, 02:00:58 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup

Would, could, should have.....rubbish. If this, if that, really?? Are you seriously going down that track???
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 19, 2016, 05:17:16 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup

Would, could, should have.....rubbish. If this, if that, really?? Are you seriously going down that track???

Yes

A few people have said this and asked this of you but do you watch games? Actually watch them, not just so you can complain about anything and lately it appears everything?

because I suggest you actually watch a few games and to see what sort of directing Maric does at stoppages and you might  then understand the impact he has

failing that.... whatever ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 19, 2016, 05:44:53 PM
Whatever then.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 19, 2016, 07:03:08 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup

Would, could, should have.....rubbish. If this, if that, really?? Are you seriously going down that track???

Yes

A few people have said this and asked this of you but do you watch games? Actually watch them, not just so you can complain about anything and lately it appears everything?

because I suggest you actually watch a few games and to see what sort of directing Maric does at stoppages and you might  then understand the impact he has

failing that.... whatever ;D

Do you sort of think that the complaining has anything at all to do with the fact that I am over this club and their mediocre performance, their continual poor performances, the lies, the excuses, the rubbish players and selections and the rest after I have paid money for the past 25 years as a member, 35 as a supporter including family membership, clothing, paraphernalia,  travel to games from overseas and interstate, paying accomodation etc..... Do I need to go on.

So don't you think I have the right to complain about the crap I am being shown at the moment, with no end in sight??? Do you?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on April 19, 2016, 07:27:16 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup

Would, could, should have.....rubbish. If this, if that, really?? Are you seriously going down that track???

Yes

A few people have said this and asked this of you but do you watch games? Actually watch them, not just so you can complain about anything and lately it appears everything?

because I suggest you actually watch a few games and to see what sort of directing Maric does at stoppages and you might  then understand the impact he has

failing that.... whatever ;D

 ::)

And if the pies had the best 22 fit how many woul they have won by?

If you aunty was of a different gender she wouldn't e your aunty
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 19, 2016, 07:43:19 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup

Would, could, should have.....rubbish. If this, if that, really?? Are you seriously going down that track???

Yes

A few people have said this and asked this of you but do you watch games? Actually watch them, not just so you can complain about anything and lately it appears everything?

because I suggest you actually watch a few games and to see what sort of directing Maric does at stoppages and you might  then understand the impact he has

failing that.... whatever ;D

 ::)

And if the pies had the best 22 fit how many woul they have won by?

If you aunty was of a different gender she wouldn't e your aunty
To be fair we'd have to compare us with Maric, Deledio and Yarran all fit and firing too.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on April 19, 2016, 08:03:05 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup

Would, could, should have.....rubbish. If this, if that, really?? Are you seriously going down that track???

Yes

A few people have said this and asked this of you but do you watch games? Actually watch them, not just so you can complain about anything and lately it appears everything?

because I suggest you actually watch a few games and to see what sort of directing Maric does at stoppages and you might  then understand the impact he has

failing that.... whatever ;D

 ::)

And if the pies had the best 22 fit how many woul they have won by?

If you aunty was of a different gender she wouldn't e your aunty
To be fair we'd have to compare us with Maric, Deledio and Yarran all fit and firing too.

So we can conclude that such hypotheticals such as 'we would of won if Maric played' are irrelevant and silly
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 19, 2016, 08:13:35 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup

Would, could, should have.....rubbish. If this, if that, really?? Are you seriously going down that track???

Yes

A few people have said this and asked this of you but do you watch games? Actually watch them, not just so you can complain about anything and lately it appears everything?

because I suggest you actually watch a few games and to see what sort of directing Maric does at stoppages and you might  then understand the impact he has

failing that.... whatever ;D

 ::)

And if the pies had the best 22 fit how many woul they have won by?

If you aunty was of a different gender she wouldn't e your aunty
To be fair we'd have to compare us with Maric, Deledio and Yarran all fit and firing too.

So we can conclude that such hypotheticals such as 'we would of won if Maric played' are irrelevant and silly
I thought the whole point was to demonstrate that the second last centre bounce of the night would have seen Maric discuss things with the midfield and therefore position themselves in a way to stop an easy clearance to Collingwood. Hampson, who had rucked well just walked up, there was no discussion and just jumped. It was not to indicate what would have happened the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 19, 2016, 08:30:50 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup

Would, could, should have.....rubbish. If this, if that, really?? Are you seriously going down that track???

Yes

A few people have said this and asked this of you but do you watch games? Actually watch them, not just so you can complain about anything and lately it appears everything?

because I suggest you actually watch a few games and to see what sort of directing Maric does at stoppages and you might  then understand the impact he has

failing that.... whatever ;D

 ::)

And if the pies had the best 22 fit how many woul they have won by?

If you aunty was of a different gender she wouldn't e your aunty
To be fair we'd have to compare us with Maric, Deledio and Yarran all fit and firing too.

So we can conclude that such hypotheticals such as 'we would of won if Maric played' are irrelevant and silly
Yes we can. Can we apply that same principle to our drafts choices also?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 19, 2016, 08:37:02 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup

Would, could, should have.....rubbish. If this, if that, really?? Are you seriously going down that track???

Yes

A few people have said this and asked this of you but do you watch games? Actually watch them, not just so you can complain about anything and lately it appears everything?

because I suggest you actually watch a few games and to see what sort of directing Maric does at stoppages and you might  then understand the impact he has

failing that.... whatever ;D

Do you sort of think that the complaining has anything at all to do with the fact that I am over this club and their mediocre performance, their continual poor performances, the lies, the excuses, the rubbish players and selections and the rest after I have paid money for the past 25 years as a member, 35 as a supporter including family membership, clothing, paraphernalia,  travel to games from overseas and interstate, paying accomodation etc..... Do I need to go on.

So don't you think I have the right to complain about the crap I am being shown at the moment, with no end in sight??? Do you?

You too are an apologist, for continuing to put money into something that continues to disappoint.
It's like going to McDonalds expecting a meal like that you see at Vue de Monde.
You are actually no different but think by whinging and writing irrationale rants on this forum that somehow makes you different?
It doesn't, it makes you delusional.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 19, 2016, 08:54:35 PM
the only delusional thing around here is the Richmond FC

Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on April 19, 2016, 09:45:43 PM
No. He's a great leader and inspiration. He tells players how to structure up. He provides physicality.
His advantages far outweigh the disadvantage he has of being "too short".

We are still a better team with Ivan in the side.


And that is why I believe we would have won the Collingwood game if he was playing

Would have structured up the mids for that final centre square bounce... things would have been very different  :thumbsup

Would, could, should have.....rubbish. If this, if that, really?? Are you seriously going down that track???

Yes

A few people have said this and asked this of you but do you watch games? Actually watch them, not just so you can complain about anything and lately it appears everything?

because I suggest you actually watch a few games and to see what sort of directing Maric does at stoppages and you might  then understand the impact he has

failing that.... whatever ;D

Do you sort of think that the complaining has anything at all to do with the fact that I am over this club and their mediocre performance, their continual poor performances, the lies, the excuses, the rubbish players and selections and the rest after I have paid money for the past 25 years as a member, 35 as a supporter including family membership, clothing, paraphernalia,  travel to games from overseas and interstate, paying accomodation etc..... Do I need to go on.

So don't you think I have the right to complain about the crap I am being shown at the moment, with no end in sight??? Do you?

You too are an apologist, for continuing to put money into something that continues to disappoint.
It's like going to McDonalds expecting a meal like that you see at Vue de Monde.
You are actually no different but think by whinging and writing irrationale rants on this forum that somehow makes you different?
It doesn't, it makes you delusional.

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on April 19, 2016, 10:04:54 PM
Good thread this seeing WAT put in his place
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 19, 2016, 10:40:14 PM
So don't you think I have the right to complain about the crap I am being shown at the moment, with no end in sight??? Do you?

You can complain all you like; that is indeed your right

But currently you even seem to be complaining about the things that they've got right
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 20, 2016, 06:21:31 AM
Whats the ffff point.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric set to return for Richmond in crunch clash against Melbourne (H-Sun)
Post by: eliminator on April 20, 2016, 06:40:25 AM
Maric's inclusion in the side is important. He has football smarts, provides leadership and provides far more presence around the ground than Hampson. The deficiency in ruck stocks is an area this club needs to address pronto.