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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: pmac21 on May 07, 2016, 10:16:15 PM
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I hope Hardwick is watching tonight's game and taking notes on how to play AFL in the current era.
They are great to watch unlike RFC who are a real grind to watch.
The players just have such natural flair and look like the enjoy the game.
Our players don't look like they enjoy it.
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I actually thought we played a much better brand of footy last night for 3 qtrs
Ball movement was lot quicker
Doggies are brillaint to watch though as are Adelaide
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I think we just need to stop comparing ourselves to other clubs and just concentrate on our own backyard.
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I think we need to start comparing ourselves to good clubs instead of Richmond sides of the past and being happy that "at least we're not as bad as they were...."
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I think we need to start comparing ourselves to good clubs instead of Richmond sides of the past and being happy that "at least we're not as bad as they were...."
I think we need to learn from good clubs.
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Well all they do is ask themselves "What would Richmond do?" then do the opposite.....lucky we now have George Castagna on board to show us how....
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Our club likes to blame the expansion teams as to why we had to pick up other teams crap in stead of going to the draft. Here is a list of players the Doggies have drafted or traded for since 2010.
Not to bad considering the GWS and GC took all the good kids apparently.
Bulldogs drafted or traded since 2010
Mitch Wallace
Tom Liberatore
Clay Smith
Michael Talia
Tory Dickson
Jake Stringer
Jackson Macrae
Nathan Hrovat
Lachie Hunter
Stuart Crameri
Marcus Bomtempelli
Shane Biggs
Tom Boyd
Toby McLean
Lukas Webb
Bailey Dale
Caleb Daniel
Matthew Suckling
Josh Dunkley
Kieran Collins
Markus Adams
Bailey Williams
Rookies
Luke Dahlhaus
Jason Johannisen
Lin Jong
Tom Campbell
Jack Redpath
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Now here is a list of what we drafted and traded in that same time.
Tigers drafted or traded since 2010
Shaun Grigg
Reece Conca
Jake Batchelor
Bradley Helbig
Dean MacDonald
Tom Derickx
David Gourdis
Bachar Houli
Steve Morris
Ivan Maric
Brandon Ellis
Todd Elton
Mathew Arnot
Brett O'Hanlon
Piva Wright
Nick Vlastuin
Kamden McIntosh
Liam McBean
Matthew McDonough
Shaun Hampson
Ben Lennon
Nathan Gordon
Sam Lloyd
Taylor Hunt
Corey Ellis
Conner Menadue
Nathan Drummond
Daniel Butler
Reece McKenzie
Andrew Moore
Jacob Townsend
Chris Yarran
Daniel Rioli
Oleg Markov
Nathan Broad
Rookies
Ben Jakobi
Brad Miller
Tom Hislop
Adam Maric
Ben Darrou
Steve Verrier
Gibson Turner
Ricky Petterd
Sam Lonergan
Orren Stephenson
Cadeyn Willams
Todd Bamfield
Anthony Miles
Matt Thomas
Ivan Soldo
Jayden Short
Jason Castagna
Kane Lambert
Callum Moore
Mabior Chol
Adam Marcon
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Look at Adelaide and Norf
The Richmond list management is an abomination
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Now here is a list of what we drafted and traded in that same time.
Tigers drafted or traded since 2010
Shaun Grigg
Reece Conca
Jake Batchelor
Bradley Helbig
Dean MacDonald
Tom Derickx
David Gourdis
Bachar Houli
Steve Morris
Ivan Maric
Brandon Ellis
Todd Elton
Mathew Arnot
Brett O'Hanlon
Piva Wright
Nick Vlastuin
Kamden McIntosh
Liam McBean
Matthew McDonough
Shaun Hampson
Ben Lennon
Nathan Gordon
Sam Lloyd
Taylor Hunt
Corey Ellis
Conner Menadue
Nathan Drummond
Daniel Butler
Reece McKenzie
Andrew Moore
Jacob Townsend
Chris Yarran
Daniel Rioli
Oleg Markov
Nathan Broad
Rookies
Ben Jakobi
Brad Miller
Tom Hislop
Adam Maric
Ben Darrou
Steve Verrier
Gibson Turner
Ricky Petterd
Sam Lonergan
Orren Stephenson
Cadeyn Willams
Todd Bamfield
Anthony Miles
Matt Thomas
Ivan Soldo
Jayden Short
Jason Castagna
Kane Lambert
Callum Moore
Mabior Chol
Adam Marcon
I would say there is 4 or 5 guys from our list that 100% would get a game for them today.
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BT we all knew this though. I wish one of these dud journos would bring it up whenever they whip out that expansion line
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Our club likes to blame the expansion teams as to why we had to pick up other teams crap in stead of going to the draft. Here is a list of players the Doghies have drafted or traded for since 2010.
Not to bad considering the GWS and GC took all the good kids apparently.
Bulldogs drafted or traded since 2010
Mitch Wallace
Tom Liberatore
Clay Smith
Michael Talia
Tory Dickson
Jake Stringer
Jackson Macrae
Nathan Hrovat
Lachie Hunter
Stuart Crameri
Marcus Bomtempelli
Shane Biggs
Tom Boyd
Toby McLean
Lukas Webb
Bailey Dale
Caleb Daniel
Matthew Suckling
Josh Dunkley
Kieran Collins
Markus Adams
Bailey Williams
Rookies
Luke Dahlhaus
Jason Johannisen
Lin Jong
Tom Campbell
Jack Redpath
Great post
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We need to compare the RFC to whoever wins by the most points each week.
This week it should be Melbourne
Please revise all posts above
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I mean look at the rookies and it's no surprise they are playing so well.
I can't remember a rookie ever doing so well for us. Perhaps before Mr Hackson came on board.
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I mean look at the rookies and it's no surprise they are playing so well.
I can't remember a rookie ever doing so well for us. Perhaps before Mr Hackson came on board.
Miles would be the pick of the bunch with Lambert next in line.
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Our club likes to blame the expansion teams as to why we had to pick up other teams crap in stead of going to the draft. Here is a list of players the Doggies have drafted or traded for since 2010.
Not to bad considering the GWS and GC took all the good kids apparently.
Bulldogs drafted or traded since 2010
Mitch Wallace
Tom Liberatore
Clay Smith
Michael Talia
Tory Dickson
Jake Stringer
Jackson Macrae
Nathan Hrovat
Lachie Hunter
Stuart Crameri
Marcus Bomtempelli
Shane Biggs
Tom Boyd
Toby McLean
Lukas Webb
Bailey Dale
Caleb Daniel
Matthew Suckling
Josh Dunkley
Kieran Collins
Markus Adams
Bailey Williams
Rookies
Luke Dahlhaus
Jason Johannisen
Lin Jong
Tom Campbell
Jack Redpath
Excellent post.
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Our club likes to blame the expansion teams as to why we had to pick up other teams crap in stead of going to the draft. Here is a list of players the Doggies have drafted or traded for since 2010.
Not to bad considering the GWS and GC took all the good kids apparently.
Bulldogs drafted or traded since 2010
Mitch Wallace
Tom Liberatore
Clay Smith
Michael Talia
Tory Dickson
Jake Stringer
Jackson Macrae
Nathan Hrovat
Lachie Hunter
Stuart Crameri
Marcus Bomtempelli
Shane Biggs
Tom Boyd
Toby McLean
Lukas Webb
Bailey Dale
Caleb Daniel
Matthew Suckling
Josh Dunkley
Kieran Collins
Markus Adams
Bailey Williams
Rookies
Luke Dahlhaus
Jason Johannisen
Lin Jong
Tom Campbell
Jack Redpath
Excellent post.
Maybe that scumbag Dan Richardson should read it before talking utter poo about our list and disrespecting the Tiger members and supporters that pay his overinflated wage.
Actually the other thing I didn't mention was they weren't afraid to trade out their captain and some other club greats (Cooney) to get that list of exciting kids. I remember their fans weren't happy at the time but I'm pretty sure they are happy now the club made some tough calls.
Do we have the balls??
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No no BT. Let's not get carried away now. Tough calls aren't the Richmond Way after all.
With the exception of Dusty, our list we have is a very good blend of administration and accountants types and if they possess too much flair we promise to eradicate that nonsense from their game.
Remember too we don't like risks and we like to stick with people as long as they are returning each week as participation is the key.
We are a loyal club, we will give you a job until you die. There's no pressure to perform within our four walls as long as you show up each day then we are happy to have you at our club.
Never forget we are a stable club, we don't sack anyone at Richmond, stability is our foundation & will one day be our success & hopefully get us that coveted finals win.
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"We couldn't take eight years to rebuild. We needed to become competitive a bit quicker than that. But at that time all the best talent basically for the next four to five years was going to be going north [to Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney]," Richardson said on SEN.
"We're seeing the likes of GWS reap the rewards of that now. Our strategy wasn't just to go to the draft like a lot of clubs did because we knew that would probably take six to eight years and we've seen that with the likes of Melbourne.
"We didn't think Richmond fans would accept an eight-year rebuild. We turned it around in four, which I think was a terrific achievement.
"We're paying a price in the sense that we knew that that mature-age talent would get us to a point but not take us to the next level, which was always going to be the hardest part. While it's been disappointing somewhat to not win a final, it's been a good achievement to play finals for three years in a row for the first time for 20 years for the club."
:huh :huh
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They don't seem to be struggling with contracts either and they're paying Boyd 1 million a year.
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Our club likes to blame the expansion teams as to why we had to pick up other teams crap in stead of going to the draft. Here is a list of players the Doggies have drafted or traded for since 2010.
Not to bad considering the GWS and GC took all the good kids apparently.
Bulldogs drafted or traded since 2010
Mitch Wallace
Tom Liberatore
Clay Smith
Michael Talia
Tory Dickson
Jake Stringer
Jackson Macrae
Nathan Hrovat
Lachie Hunter
Stuart Crameri
Marcus Bomtempelli
Shane Biggs
Tom Boyd
Toby McLean
Lukas Webb
Bailey Dale
Caleb Daniel
Matthew Suckling
Josh Dunkley
Kieran Collins
Markus Adams
Bailey Williams
Rookies
Luke Dahlhaus
Jason Johannisen
Lin Jong
Tom Campbell
Jack Redpath
Excellent post.
Maybe that scumbag Dan Richardson should read it before talking utter poo about our list and disrespecting the Tiger members and supporters that pay his overinflated wage.
Actually the other thing I didn't mention was they weren't afraid to trade out their captain and some other club greats (Cooney) to get that list of exciting kids. I remember their fans weren't happy at the time but I'm pretty sure they are happy now the club made some tough calls.
Do we have the balls??
should send that through to barrett - hes a stuffing parrott but he wont hesitate to sink the boots in publicl;y whereas the rest are all dimmas mates and wont go hard
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Think we are all expecting too much from a side riddled with injury that is affecting anyone. Remember we beat a full Hawthorn premiership side 2 years running.
This is the reason why we have not won a final in 3 years. Playing injured players never works for us. Take key players out of these top sides & they falter against good sides also.
The Hawks have the back up that we lack. RFC is a young side with very few games in some. l would however sack the forward coach as he is a huge flaw in the outfit.
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I mean look at the rookies and it's no surprise they are playing so well.
I can't remember a rookie ever doing so well for us. Perhaps before Mr Hackson came on board.
Looks good when you only include the ones that worked
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Interesting thing with the Doggies outside of their obviously excellent recruiting was that during that period they due to them receiving special funding for the AFL they were restricted in what they were able to do
For example they couldn't spend all of the salary cap so they had no choice but to draft kids. Learly they drafted really good ones but they had a restirction and used it to their advantage
I mean look at the rookies and it's no surprise they are playing so well.
I can't remember a rookie ever doing so well for us. Perhaps before Mr Hackson came on board.
Funny i thought Miles was doing OK :huh
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We should poach dogs list manager guys
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deep fried is better
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This thread was about Port 2 seasons ago
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This thread was about Port 2 seasons ago
It changes practically every couple of weeks
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I guess the point of my post is not personal it's our gamestyle and coaching style. I actually think our list is OK.
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Having watched another couple of games this weekend (depressing when i see how far off the pace we are) I really have to question our zoning strategy when defending opposition kick outs.
Saw some vision of the Roos today and they seem to play one on one more so than guarding space. I think what makes ours not work is that we also have very poor closing speed.
I assume the idea is to position a player so as to allow enough time to get to your opponent while the ball is in the air rather than being side by side which encourages turnovers. Due to the fact we are so slow it means better skilled sides (most other teams in the competition) are still able to work their way through our zone without too much effort. Maybe we need to revert to simple one on one defence for a while and see how that goes.
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Having watched another couple of games this weekend (depressing when i see how far off the pace we are) I really have to question our zoning strategy when defending opposition kick outs.
Saw some vision of the Roos today and they seem to play one on one more so than guarding space. I think what makes ours not work is that we also have very poor closing speed.
I assume the idea is to position a player so as to allow enough time to get to your opponent while the ball is in the air rather than being side by side which encourages turnovers. Due to the fact we are so slow it means better skilled sides (most other teams in the competition) are still able to work their way through our zone without too much effort. Maybe we need to revert to simple one on one defence for a while and see how that goes.
If you actually mean being accountable for someone, it's not the "Richmond way"
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Yep that is basically how a zone defense works. each player has a certain space to defend, rather than one player.
It always made me laugh when posters would say that such and such was not manning up.
One of the issues with a zone defense, is that once the opposition find a way through, it creates an overlap. The next player must come to the ball carrier, which creates space for them to deliver to.
It was curious that in Hardwicks early days he would play man on man against the lowly teams in an attempt to get a win, but would persist with the zone defence in games we were expected to lose anyway. It made sense, but it tells you something about the merits of playing man on man defence as well.
Once the players started to implement the zone defence with a degree of competency, teams also worked out we struggled against man on man defence, probably due to not handling the immediate pressure it creates and that our game plan probably revolved the opposition playing zone defence.
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One of the issues with a zone defense, is that once the opposition find a way through, it creates an overlap. The next player must come to the ball carrier, which creates space for them to deliver to.
Same can happen man on man though. One person gets past their player and suddenly they've got an extra man
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it can, but if the player is manning up correctly he can chase and put pressure from behind, rather than starting 10-15 m behind him, meaning the next bloke doesnt have to leave his man, in theory. with a zone defence, if things go wrong so many players can find themselves in no mans land.
The other problem is that zone defense can make it easier to be unaccountable. Man on man, it highlights when someone is unaccountable
Obviously there no perfect way, or no one would score goals.
Zone defence can shut down teams, particularly teams that are not highly skilled or disciplined, but there is a place for man on man defence, IMO
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Yep that is basically how a zone defense works. each player has a certain space to defend, rather than one player.
It always made me laugh when posters would say that such and such was not manning up.
One of the issues with a zone defense, is that once the opposition find a way through, it creates an overlap. The next player must come to the ball carrier, which creates space for them to deliver to.
It was curious that in Hardwicks early days he would play man on man against the lowly teams in an attempt to get a win, but would persist with the zone defence in games we were expected to lose anyway. It made sense, but it tells you something about the merits of playing man on man defence as well.
Once the players started to implement the zone defence with a degree of competency, teams also worked out we struggled against man on man defence, probably due to not handling the immediate pressure it creates and that our game plan probably revolved the opposition playing zone defence.
Penelope, can you please say it a little slower for WATs sake :snidegrin
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In no way trying to defend our own recruiting or question BT's well researched list, but out of curiosity how many of those dogs picks are father/son and post compromised drafts? If I remember correctly they were a competitive side around 2010 coming off the trifecta prelim losses and didn't completely bottom out until either after the gimped drafts or the last year or something. They also had a core of competent and experienced players they could afford to trade, a luxury we didn't have which made it an even worse time for us to hit rock bottom.
Without sounding like I'm making excuses, regardless of the drafts they got their players in they did a better job of their rookie and later draft picks. I don't have a problem with the recruitment model we used through those years or the players we picked up (come at me) but I don't understand why we stuck to that model in subsequent uncompromised drafts.
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with so many rookies making a part of their team, they must of stuffed up a fair few early picks?
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with so many rookies making a part of their team, they must of stuffed up a fair few early picks?
:lol good point :clapping
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with so many rookies making a part of their team, they must of stuffed up a fair few early picks?
:lol good point :clapping
It was a question.
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Wgaf how they did it but they have done it without resorting to monkeyball, and with less money than our club.
To think they lost their captain and are still winning is a credit to them
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with so many rookies making a part of their team, they must of stuffed up a fair few early picks?
:lol good point :clapping
It was a question.
:lol
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Rhetorical, go look it up, although it may confuse Danni, as it has both e and i which sound the same to him.
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with so many rookies making a part of their team, they must of stuffed up a fair few early picks?
:lol good point :clapping
It was a question.
A good question can also raise a good point
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with so many rookies making a part of their team, they must of stuffed up a fair few early picks?
2010:
Trades:
Andrejs Everitt traded for Patrick Veszpremi and draft pick #91
pick 57 traded for Nathan Djerrkura
End of first round compensation pick traded for Justin Sherman
National Draft:
22 Mitch Wallis (F/S)
41 Tom Liberatore (F/S)
74 Jayden Schofield
88 Zephaniah Skinner
89 Tom Hill
102 Brodie Moles (Promoted rookie)
110 Andrew Hooper (Promoted rookie)
Rookie draft:
22 Luke Dahlhaus
39 Jason Johannisen
55 Ed Barlow
70 Mitch Hahn
2011:
Trades:
Josh Hill to West Coast for pick 49
Ben Hudson to Brisbane for pick 70
National Draft:
17 Clay Smith
39 Michael Talia
49 Daniel Pearce
57 Tory Dickson
70 Luke Dahlhaus (Rookie promotion)
73 Matthew Panos (Rookie promotion)
PSD:
11 Fletcher Roberts
Rookie draft:
9 Lin Jong
27 Tom Campbell
45 Alex Greenwood
62 Jack Redpath
76 Mark Austin
2012
Free Agents:
Nick Lower (DFA)
Trades:
Brian Lake & Pick 27 traded to Hawthorn for Picks 21 & 43
Koby Stevens from West Coast for Pick 43
Tom Young from Collingwood for Pick 69
National Draft:
5 Jake Stringer
6 Jackson Macrae (GWS uncontracted player compensation pick - Callan Ward)
21 Nathan Hrovat
49 Lachie Hunter (F/S)
50 Josh Prudden (GWS uncontracted player compensation pick - Sam Reid)
98 Tom Campbell (Rookie promotion)
105 Jason Johannisen (Rookie promotion)
Rookie draft:
4 Brett Goodes
2013:
Free Agents: Nil
Trades:
Stewart Crameri from Essendon for Pick 26
Sam Darley from GWS for Pick 78
National Draft:
4 Marcus Bontempelli
42 Matt Fuller
60 Mitch Honeychurch
84 Brett Goodes (Promoted Rookie)
Rookies: Nil
2014:
Free Agency: Nil
Trades:
Ryan Griffen & Pick 6 traded for Tom Boyd
Adam Cooney traded for Pick 37
Liam Jones traded for Pick 46
National Draft:
26 Toby McLean
27 Lukas Webb (Free agency compensation pick fro Shaun Higgins)
39 Declan Hamilton (Pick traded from Sydney; Free agency compensation pick for Nick Malceski)
45 Bailey Dale
46 Caleb Daniel (Pick traded by Carlton)
62 Zaine Cordy (F/S)
Lin Jong (Promoted Rookie)
Jack Redpath (promoted Rookie)
Rookie Draft:
5 Roarke Smith
23 Jordan Kelly
40 Daniel Pearce
57 Brett Goodes
2015:
Free Agents:
Matt Suckling
Trades:
2016 4th round pick traded for Michael Talia & Pick 69
National Draft:
25 Josh Dunkley (Pick traded from Carlton; father-son eligible, but Sydney did not match bid.)
26 Kieran Collins (Pick taded from Carlton; received from Brisbane Lions.)
35 Marcus Adams
48 Bailey Williams
Rookie Draft:
11 Bradley Lynch
29 Luke Goetz
46 Jed Adcock
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with so many rookies making a part of their team, they must of stuffed up a fair few early picks?
2010:
Trades:
Andrejs Everitt traded for Patrick Veszpremi and draft pick #91
pick 57 traded for Nathan Djerrkura
End of first round compensation pick traded for Justin Sherman
National Draft:
22 Mitch Wallis (F/S)
41 Tom Liberatore (F/S)
74 Jayden Schofield
88 Zephaniah Skinner
89 Tom Hill
102 Brodie Moles (Promoted rookie)
110 Andrew Hooper (Promoted rookie)
Rookie draft:
22 Luke Dahlhaus
39 Jason Johannisen
55 Ed Barlow
70 Mitch Hahn
2011:
Trades:
Josh Hill to West Coast for pick 49
Ben Hudson to Brisbane for pick 70
National Draft:
17 Clay Smith
39 Michael Talia
49 Daniel Pearce
57 Tory Dickson
70 Luke Dahlhaus (Rookie promotion)
73 Matthew Panos (Rookie promotion)
PSD:
11 Fletcher Roberts
Rookie draft:
9 Lin Jong
27 Tom Campbell
45 Alex Greenwood
62 Jack Redpath
76 Mark Austin
2012
Free Agents:
Nick Lower (DFA)
Trades:
Brian Lake & Pick 27 traded to Hawthorn for Picks 21 & 43
Koby Stevens from West Coast for Pick 43
Tom Young from Collingwood for Pick 69
National Draft:
5 Jake Stringer
6 Jackson Macrae (GWS uncontracted player compensation pick - Callan Ward)
21 Nathan Hrovat
49 Lachie Hunter (F/S)
50 Josh Prudden (GWS uncontracted player compensation pick - Sam Reid)
98 Tom Campbell (Rookie promotion)
105 Jason Johannisen (Rookie promotion)
Rookie draft:
4 Brett Goodes
2013:
Free Agents: Nil
Trades:
Stewart Crameri from Essendon for Pick 26
Sam Darley from GWS for Pick 78
National Draft:
4 Marcus Bontempelli
42 Matt Fuller
60 Mitch Honeychurch
84 Brett Goodes (Promoted Rookie)
Rookies: Nil
2014:
Free Agency: Nil
Trades:
Ryan Griffen & Pick 6 traded for Tom Boyd
Adam Cooney traded for Pick 37
Liam Jones traded for Pick 46
National Draft:
26 Toby McLean
27 Lukas Webb (Free agency compensation pick fro Shaun Higgins)
39 Declan Hamilton (Pick traded from Sydney; Free agency compensation pick for Nick Malceski)
45 Bailey Dale
46 Caleb Daniel (Pick traded by Carlton)
62 Zaine Cordy (F/S)
Lin Jong (Promoted Rookie)
Jack Redpath (promoted Rookie)
Rookie Draft:
5 Roarke Smith
23 Jordan Kelly
40 Daniel Pearce
57 Brett Goodes
2015:
Free Agents:
Matt Suckling
Trades:
2016 4th round pick traded for Michael Talia & Pick 69
National Draft:
25 Josh Dunkley (Pick traded from Carlton; father-son eligible, but Sydney did not match bid.)
26 Kieran Collins (Pick taded from Carlton; received from Brisbane Lions.)
35 Marcus Adams
48 Bailey Williams
Rookie Draft:
11 Bradley Lynch
29 Luke Goetz
46 Jed Adcock
Can you please supply the link to where you gathered the information from!
Surely by no people know the Rules :banghead
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Loui is correct
youve sources it from somewhere
Supply the appropriate link or it will need to be removed
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I thought all this information is freely available on the internet. What if he just knew it? I can tell you our picks and trades from the last few years because they are in my head. Am I not allowed to post them?
Interesting question.
When do you have to link information and when are you allowed to post it because it is just common knowledge and you might actually know it?
Just asking WP.
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What a world
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comeon..
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The rules are the rules
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I thought all this information is freely available on the internet. What if he just knew it? I can tell you our picks and trades from the last few years because they are in my head. Am I not allowed to post them?
Interesting question.
When do you have to link information and when are you allowed to post it because it is just common knowledge and you might actually know it?
Just asking WP.
Rules are pretty straight forward
If you have directly copied something from another site / source (whixh is the case here i would argue) then you have to supply a link.
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Loui is correct
youve sources it from somewhere
Supply the appropriate link or it will need to be removed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_AFL_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_AFL_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_AFL_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_AFL_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AFL_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_AFL_draft
Also:
The sky is blue because blue light is scattered in all directions by the tiny molecules of air in Earth's atmosphere. Blue is scattered more than other colors because it travels as shorter, smaller waves. This is why we see a blue sky most of the time.
Source: http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/blue-sky/en/
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Loui is correct
youve sources it from somewhere
Supply the appropriate link or it will need to be removed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_AFL_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_AFL_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_AFL_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_AFL_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AFL_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_AFL_draft
Also:
The sky is blue because blue light is scattered in all directions by the tiny molecules of air in Earth's atmosphere. Blue is scattered more than other colors because it travels as shorter, smaller waves. This is why we see a blue sky most of the time.
Source: http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/blue-sky/en/
thank you
Wasn't hard was it
Straight out cut & pastes must be linked
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NASA are not a creditable source
Moon landings :lol
Hiding the alien stuff :whistle
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So they're also lying about why the sky is blue?
WP - glad I was able to save OER copping a lawsuit from wikipedia......