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Title: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 09, 2016, 07:14:13 AM
Does jack need a new mate ?

Patton?
Cameron?
Lynch?
Lobb?
McCartin?
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Willy on May 09, 2016, 09:50:17 AM
I think Patton is a realistic chance and he is the right age.

Hasn't set the world on fire yet but give him a couple of years and he will be very hard to match up on.

Only concern is his tank with the new interchange rules and such.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 09, 2016, 09:51:05 AM
cheeky bid for saint nick might be an idea

although a year or two ago would of ideal before the saints Renaissance

I think Patton is a realistic chance and he is the right age.

Hasn't set the world on fire yet but give him a couple of years and he will be very hard to match up on.

Only concern is his tank with the new interchange rules and such.

I think he's done two knees

So should be cheaper
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 09, 2016, 08:16:06 PM
Paddy McCartin would go alright
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: tony_montana on May 09, 2016, 09:06:11 PM
Patton is the realistic one, but how much would you give up for a player thats done 2 knees?

I reckon he's worth the risk provided we do proper medical due diligence
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Chuck17 on May 09, 2016, 09:11:50 PM
Can we get Josh Kennedy?
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 09, 2016, 09:12:27 PM
If we could only snag one in the draft.......

I guess that is just a pipe dream..... :banghead
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Diocletian on May 09, 2016, 10:50:42 PM
Apeness from Freo  :shh
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 11, 2016, 07:37:20 AM
josh jenkins put contract talks on hold
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: big tone on May 11, 2016, 08:24:00 AM
josh jenkins put contract talks on hold
What would people be happy to give up for him?
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 11, 2016, 10:32:24 AM
josh jenkins put contract talks on hold
What would people be happy to give up for him?

Cannot see Adelaide taking any of our players for him; which means picks

We cannot afford to give up our first round pick this year and for memory we don't have a 2nd rounder. And yes what I am saying is I don't think he is worth a early 1st round pick which is what we are likely going to have. LAte first rounder yes top 10 no

So what do we do??

Reckon we would need to get another club involved who are interested in our players.. for reasons I don't understand B Ellis has currency, get what we can for him ditto a few others and hopefully that will give us a package of picks that could get you Jenkins
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Chuck17 on May 11, 2016, 10:58:07 AM
josh jenkins put contract talks on hold
What would people be happy to give up for him?

Cannot see Adelaide taking any of our players for him; which means picks

We cannot afford to give up our first round pick this year and for memory we don't have a 2nd rounder. And yes what I am saying is I don't think he is worth a early 1st round pick which is what we are likely going to have. LAte first rounder yes top 10 no

So what do we do??

Reckon we would need to get another club involved who are interested in our players.. for reasons I don't understand B Ellis has currency, get what we can for him ditto a few others and hopefully that will give us a package of picks that could get you Jenkins

And the worst thing about giving up a second rounder last year, is that with this years low finish due to the rebuild phase it is going to be a darn good pick.

 :banghead POW  :banghead
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Diocletian on May 11, 2016, 12:10:23 PM
If we finished last we'll also get first pick in the PSD...... :whistle
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 11, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
Jonathan Brown says Fremantle should offer Jesse Hogan $15 million over 10 years
May 10, 2016 8:00am
KATE SALEMMEHerald Sun
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Andyy on May 11, 2016, 02:41:08 PM
Jonathan Brown says Fremantle should offer Jesse Hogan $15 million over 10 years
May 10, 2016 8:00am
KATE SALEMMEHerald Sun


Gotta be kidding me.

Franklin $10million for 9 years and will be one of the highest goal kickers of all time when he's finished.

I think Hogan is a superstar in the making but I doubt he'll reach those heights.

I think $7-10million is much more appropriate...
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: tony_montana on May 11, 2016, 07:35:44 PM
not that far fetched

franchise player - he'll get close to that
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: the claw on May 11, 2016, 09:16:34 PM
Patton is the realistic one, but how much would you give up for a player thats done 2 knees?

I reckon he's worth the risk provided we do proper medical due diligence
Why would you want him, serious question what attributes etc.Is he supposed to be a power forward? Personally i have a few issues and im not sold.I know he has had injuries  but has not done enough imo to be offering up 1st rounders for even if you think he has a big upside.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: tony_montana on May 11, 2016, 09:47:05 PM
Patton is the realistic one, but how much would you give up for a player thats done 2 knees?

I reckon he's worth the risk provided we do proper medical due diligence
Why would you want him, serious question what attributes etc.Is he supposed to be a power forward? Personally i have a few issues and im not sold.I know he has had injuries  but has not done enough imo to be offering up 1st rounders for even if you think he has a big upside.

For starters a massive upgrade on vickery and griff and a good chance we could get him for massive unders. I definitely rate him as a power fwd - strong mark, very hard to spoil, good kick, reasonably quick. Don't look at him this season, is clearly playing with no confidence and you can see he's scared to stop and prop to violently. Once he regains confidence in his knee, he'll show why he went number 1. Poor bugger hasnt had a chance to get any continuity in his footy due to his injuries, the one year he did in 2014 he really started to show something 
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: one-eyed on May 12, 2016, 02:42:28 AM
ADELAIDE’S determination not to pay overs to secure white-hot forward Josh Jenkins has Melbourne clubs circling the 27-year-old star.

The Crows are adamant they will not wilt in negotiations with Jenkins, believing premiership lists are not assembled by paying inflated contracts.

Jenkins wants to stay and has not officially put contract talks on hold despite little recent progress.

But he is happy to park all discussions for the time being, unwilling to budge unless he receives a four-year deal.

No Melbourne club has lodged an offer but many have salary cap room and the determination to be active in the off-season.

North Melbourne and Hawthorn launched bids for Essendon tall Cale Hooker while a ruck-forward like Jenkins would be the perfect player for Richmond.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/josh-jenkins-will-be-hot-property-as-adelaide-baulk-at-paying-overs-for-star-big-man/news-story/1c86cbf376d8f265ebfe0033d1008318
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Diocletian on May 14, 2016, 02:05:25 PM
From BF:

Quote from: nick1408
Josh Jenkins via his old president at Lake Boga has said Richmond and Brisbane have spoken to him. Freo have offered him 5 years. The show was a peetake but it was mentioned

...and no, have absolutely no idea what show the poster is referring to....

....now cue praying emoticon from Bents....
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Andyy on May 14, 2016, 04:51:55 PM
What's he worth people? Four years, $2 million? $2.5 million?
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Yeahright on May 15, 2016, 11:08:27 AM
What's he worth people? Four years, $2 million? $2.5 million?

Is he a free agent?
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Heart of Darkness on May 15, 2016, 11:44:37 AM
Wouldn't go near JJ. Extremely overrated for mine.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: torch on May 15, 2016, 11:46:35 AM
What about Adam Tomlison from GWS?
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 15, 2016, 12:13:29 PM
Wouldn't go near JJ. Extremely overrated for mine.

A hogan/Patton/Cameron type would be ideal

Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Heart of Darkness on May 15, 2016, 12:16:50 PM
What about Adam Tomlison from GWS?

Reckon for what you'd have to pay you're much better of targetting a Tomlinson type than Jenkins.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 15, 2016, 03:10:43 PM
Rory Lobb
Born: February 9, 1993 (age 23)
Height: 2.05 m
Weight: 98 kg
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 15, 2016, 03:17:14 PM
Rory Lobb
Born: February 9, 1993 (age 23)
Height: 2.05 m
Weight: 98 kg

Untouchable. :shh
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 15, 2016, 03:18:06 PM
how many untouchable thy got
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Heart of Darkness on May 15, 2016, 03:25:39 PM
how many untouchable thy got

Lobb would be close to the top I reckon.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Yeahright on May 15, 2016, 04:37:07 PM
Yep probably too late to jump on Lobb, playing good footy and they won't want to give him up without a fight
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: tony_montana on May 15, 2016, 07:47:50 PM
What about Adam Tomlison from GWS?

Reckon for what you'd have to pay you're much better of targetting a Tomlinson type than Jenkins.

In terms of wage yes, in terms of giving up draft picks, no way. I've felt we should target tomlinson for years but the fact is he wont go cheap. Plus i feel we need to target a big bullish fwd to build a fwd line around, Tomlinsno and jenkins are complimentary fwds, id pass on both and focus on something else
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Andyy on May 15, 2016, 08:26:45 PM
Wouldn't go near JJ. Extremely overrated for mine.

Why do you think he's overrated?

Listed at 199/107 the bloke is a beast.

Cleary a very quick player by foot if you've seen him play.

8 games 25 goals this year.

111 goals in his last 50 games.

Can ruck too.

Big upgrade on either Vickery or Griffiths.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Yeahright on May 15, 2016, 10:41:51 PM
Don't watch enough of Adelaide to make a fair judgement but he does seem to get a lot of goals out the back ala Vickery, but it is obvious he has a lot of leg speed. So the question is, is he lazy like Vickery and waits for the cheapies, or is he a beast who just works up and down to burn his player running into F50?
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Diocletian on May 15, 2016, 11:25:19 PM
My main reservation with Jenkins is his age.....will be 28 next year....other than that - what Andyyyyy said...
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 15, 2016, 11:39:11 PM
My main reservation with Jenkins is his age.....will be 28 next year....other than that - what Andyyyyy said...

Rance deledio jack yarren are getting older too

I would be ok with it - might as well top up and have a crack at it while the best players are still around



Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Yeahright on May 16, 2016, 11:57:58 AM
My main reservation with Jenkins is his age.....will be 28 next year....other than that - what Andyyyyy said...

Rance deledio jack yarren are getting older too

I would be ok with it - might as well top up and have a crack at it while the best players are still around

Wouldn't you prefer a younger one who could hang around longer and not go at roughly the same time as everyone else?
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 16, 2016, 01:35:44 PM
Yes, I would

I'd give hogan / lynch / Cameron type 15m over ten years


I doubt the club has the intestinal fortitude. To do it
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Loui Tufga on May 16, 2016, 03:54:50 PM
Yes, I would

I'd give hogan / lynch / Cameron type 15m over ten years


I doubt the club has the intestinal fortitude. To do it

Hogan is fast turning into the new Cloak, his kicking for goal is absolutly shocking and doesn't seem to be improving....
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: tony_montana on May 16, 2016, 04:12:49 PM
Yes, I would

I'd give hogan / lynch / Cameron type 15m over ten years


I doubt the club has the intestinal fortitude. To do it

Hogan is fast turning into the new Cloak, his kicking for goal is absolutly shocking and doesn't seem to be improving....

Its getting worse - his technique has gone backwards if you can believe it. Last year I never noticed it, this year, hes trying all sorts of things and looks all at sea.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Raoul Duke on May 16, 2016, 04:12:56 PM
I've felt we should target tomlinson for years but the fact is he wont go cheap. Plus i feel we need to target a big bullish fwd to build a fwd line around, Tomlinson and jenkins are complimentary fwds, id pass on both and focus on something else
This bloke is the big bodied mid we've been wanting,I know its only against GC 2's but heres what they said:

But the day belonged to midfielder Adam Tomlinson, who was best-on-ground after amassing 44 disposals, 13 marks, six clearances and 11 inside 50s.

We should be looking to trade with GWS this year without question, they have talent up to their eyeballs, 1st round talent that can't get a game in the 1's up there would definitely get in ours.

http://www.neafl.com.au/index.php?id=16&tx_ttnews%5Byear%5D=2016&tx_ttnews%5Bmonth%5D=05&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=5664&cHash=1cb148785b21c2765c02060aa7909591 (http://www.neafl.com.au/index.php?id=16&tx_ttnews%5Byear%5D=2016&tx_ttnews%5Bmonth%5D=05&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=5664&cHash=1cb148785b21c2765c02060aa7909591)
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Diocletian on May 16, 2016, 05:51:47 PM
Reckon this kid's worth a look as a cheaper option....Victorian as well:

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/player-profile/michael-apeness


Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 16, 2016, 05:58:07 PM
Yes, I would

I'd give hogan / lynch / Cameron type 15m over ten years


I doubt the club has the intestinal fortitude. To do it

Hogan is fast turning into the new Cloak, his kicking for goal is absolutly shocking and doesn't seem to be improving....

Its getting worse - his technique has gone backwards if you can believe it. Last year I never noticed it, this year, hes trying all sorts of things and looks all at sea.

patton  :pray
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Andyy on May 16, 2016, 06:27:26 PM
Patton gettable. Should have a crack at him AND Jenkins TBH.

Imagine picking up a an A-grade KPD and a very solid B-grade KPF.

All we'd need is a solid ruckman (Hampson can stay on cheaply as a backup for all I care) and another couple of midfielders.


Not much to ask is it? Bring in five good players? :(
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: dwaino on May 16, 2016, 08:25:38 PM
Is Jenkins a free agent? Wouldn't trade for him at that age. Patton every day for me. The physical development is there but sometimes looks lost in that GWS forward line but I think that's because the focus is around Cameron and Lobb and he doesn't know his place. Big unit, plonk him at full forward all day. Given injury history hopefully could get him for unders.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Heart of Darkness on May 16, 2016, 08:51:33 PM
Wouldn't go near JJ. Extremely overrated for mine.

Why do you think he's overrated?

Listed at 199/107 the bloke is a beast.

Cleary a very quick player by foot if you've seen him play.

8 games 25 goals this year.

111 goals in his last 50 games.

Can ruck too.

Big upgrade on either Vickery or Griffiths.

The goals don't mean a lot to me. Gets a lot of cheap ones like Vickery.

He's an athletic freak. Just don't think he has much footy nous nor really impacts games.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on May 16, 2016, 08:58:09 PM
Wouldn't go near JJ. Extremely overrated for mine.

Why do you think he's overrated?

Listed at 199/107 the bloke is a beast.

Cleary a very quick player by foot if you've seen him play.

8 games 25 goals this year.

111 goals in his last 50 games.

Can ruck too.

Big upgrade on either Vickery or Griffiths.

The goals don't mean a lot to me. Gets a lot of cheap ones like Vickery.

He's an athletic freak. Just don't think he has much footy nous nor really impacts games.

Yet , if you get JJ for free

Trade for a top 15-25 pick or two, for Tyrone and or griff then you are winning ?

More so if you reinvest in a Patton ...

Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Heart of Darkness on May 16, 2016, 08:59:16 PM
Wouldn't go near JJ. Extremely overrated for mine.

Why do you think he's overrated?

Listed at 199/107 the bloke is a beast.

Cleary a very quick player by foot if you've seen him play.

8 games 25 goals this year.

111 goals in his last 50 games.

Can ruck too.

Big upgrade on either Vickery or Griffiths.

The goals don't mean a lot to me. Gets a lot of cheap ones like Vickery.

He's an athletic freak. Just don't think he has much footy nous nor really impacts games.

Yet , if you get JJ for free

And a top 15-25 pick for Tyrone and or griff then you are winning ?

More so if you reinvest in a Patton.

Absolutely. JJ would need to be traded for but wouldn't he?
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Stalin on July 10, 2016, 01:18:33 AM
Trade out Griffiths and Tyrone ...
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: TigerRocket on July 14, 2016, 06:16:14 PM
I wouldn't mind us having a shot at James Stewart from GWS. His dad played for the Tigers (after 100+ with Collingwood)and I  think we were keen on him in his draft year (2012). I think he has been pretty good when  i have seen him play and he  having trouble getting a spot in the GWS forward line (any wonder :)). He was taken at pick 27 so would be a low cost / right age selection. Apparently he has been dominating in the NEAFL (no big shakes there). Anything would be an upgrade on Vickery!!
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Diocletian on July 14, 2016, 06:33:02 PM
If Mason Wood is up for grabs we should at least be sniffing aroud. Kid will be a star. Would take him ahead of just about any young KPF bar Cameron & Hogan.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: The Machine on July 14, 2016, 06:57:15 PM
I wouldn't mind us having a shot at James Stewart from GWS. His dad played for the Tigers (after 100+ with Collingwood)and I  think we were keen on him in his draft year (2012). I think he has been pretty good when  i have seen him play and he  having trouble getting a spot in the GWS forward line (any wonder :)). He was taken at pick 27 so would be a low cost / right age selection. Apparently he has been dominating in the NEAFL (no big shakes there). Anything would be an upgrade on Vickery!!


We are keen I believe and we should be as he is playing well but not getting the opportunity.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Raoul Duke on July 14, 2016, 07:47:40 PM
If Mason Wood is up for grabs we should at least be sniffing aroud. Kid will be a star. Would take him ahead of just about any young KPF bar Cameron & Hogan.
Big $$$ are coming his way if he chooses to leave, kids going real well.
If I had my choice of up and comer forwards then 2 metre Peter is the one,that kid is just warming up.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 14, 2016, 07:59:40 PM
If Mason Wood is up for grabs we should at least be sniffing aroud. Kid will be a star. Would take him ahead of just about any young KPF bar Cameron & Hogan.
If I had my choice of up and comer forwards then 2 metre Peter is the one,that kid is just warming up.
Exactly what I was thinking.
The guy is a freak. He is trending upwards at an incredible rate.
If Boyd is worth $1 million, this guy is worth more. Why aren't we bold and offer him the same 5 year deal as Boyd? We need to take risks, and this guy is a 15 year player.
Do it tiges!
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Diocletian on July 14, 2016, 08:28:13 PM
Good call on Wright, forgot about him. Wonder what it would take to get him & Wood? Riewoldt to GC - Deledio to North?

Reckon Wood easily has as much potential as Stringer.  :shh
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: yandb on July 14, 2016, 09:58:21 PM
If you were a forward from another club why would you come to Richmond where you have to wait until your team mates have finished going backwards and sideways before bringing the ball forward?

In the meantime the opposition have flooded your forward line so there is little space to work in.
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Diocletian on July 14, 2016, 10:03:34 PM
Tipping we'll have a new coach with a better game plan by this time next year..... :shh
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 14, 2016, 10:52:47 PM
Tipping we'll have a new coach with a better game plan by this time next year..... :shh
:pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
Title: Re: Potential key forwards others clubs
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 15, 2016, 07:37:05 AM
Tipping we'll have a new coach with a better game plan by this time next year..... :shh
:pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
x3