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Tiger fallout is 'borderline hysterical', Riewoldt says
Nathan Schmook
AFL.com.au
August 2, 2016 9:24 PM
THE EMOTION surrounding Richmond as it deals with the fallout from a horror fortnight has become "borderline hysterical", according to forward Jack Riewoldt.
The future of contracted coach Damien Hardwick has been in the spotlight after the Tigers' 88-point loss to Greater Western Sydney, and the merits of trading a big-name player have been debated externally.
Reports have also emerged this week about a group of disgruntled long-time supporters rallying to have certain board members replaced.
The fallout inside the football department has already begun, with two assistant coaches told on Monday they would not be part of the club's plans for 2017.
"It's borderline hysterical the way people outside the football club – and a lot of them are in the media – ride the rollercoaster that we don't ride," Riewoldt told Fox Footy.
"We're a big club and we understand that we have a lot of members, and at the moment we probably have a lot of disgruntled members with the way we're going.
"The players know that and know that we're not playing well enough at the moment.
"What can you say? We've got a lot of young guys that are playing at the moment against a side (GWS) that's going to be right up there at the end of September."
Riewoldt said there was a feeling of "disappointment and embarrassment to play like that" following the Tiqers' loss to GWS, but he was hopeful the final four rounds would present opportunities for the club to improve.
He said calls for Hardwick to be removed as coach and key players like Brett Deledio to be traded were counter-productive.
"We're not playing fantasy football here. You don't trade people in or get rid of people week in, week out," he said.
"The commentary about trading some of our better players is exactly that and I think the coach comes under that as well."
Another spot-fire at Richmond has been speculation that star defender Alex Rance's long off-season break had caused friction with teammates.
The All-Australian backman was granted an extended three-month break last summer after agreeing to a four-year contract extension, but he will start the 2017 pre-season with the rest of his teammates.
Rance said he was not aware of any ill feeling from teammates because of the off-season break.
"It wasn't just me going to the senior body and saying, 'I need this'," the 26-year-old said on Fox Footy.
"It was a group discussion that we all partook in and it wouldn't have gone ahead if it was going to do some damage to the football club.
"It was somewhere I just felt I needed to reassess and have a bit of a check on where my life was at.
"I came back in some pretty good nick and I don't think I've skipped a beat."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-02/tiger-fallout-is-borderline-hysterical-riewoldt-says
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Rance, Riewoldt show their support for Hardwick
Ben Higgins
News Corp Australia
3 August 2016
RICHMOND star Alex Rance doesn’t believe coach Damien Hardwick should be judged on 2016 alone.
The year has been a disaster for the Tigers given expectations were high after finishing fifth last season just a game outside the top four.
After a horror 88-point loss to Greater Western Sydney, the club sits in 13th with just seven wins to its name and questions being asked of Hardwick’s future and calls for senior players to be traded for young talent.
Hardwick has been in charge at Punt Road since 2010 and 2016 is on track to be his worst since 2011.
However, Rance was adamant Hardwick was the man to take the Tigers forward.
“Absolutely. I don’t believe you can judge a coach on one year,” he told Fox Sport’s AFL Tonight.
“He’s shown some fantastic development signs with a lot of our younger players and he’s a very good structural, caring coach.
Damien Hardwick directs traffic at Richmond training. Picture: Colleen Petch
“I definitely believe that with him and Trent (Cotchin) at the helm, we’ll be moving on from this year.
Rance’s thoughts were echoed by key forward Jack Riewoldt who also came to Hardwick’s defence.
Riewoldt said calls to sack Hardwick were way off the mark.
“In the last 30 or 40 years, we have been to the finals five times. He (Hardwick) has been at the helm for three of those,” Riewoldt said on AFL 360.
“Granted we haven’t been where we wanted to in the second week of finals. We have had a bad year this year. A lot of things have gone against us. Some of them, not our doing and some of them our doing.
“Unfortunately the buck stops a lot with the senior coach.”
There have been calls for the Tigers to move on some big name stars in order to help fast track the club’s rebuild.
However, Riewoldt was against trading out quality people.
“Every team’s supporters and members want them to be winning. All I can say to them, we are not playing fantasy football here,” Riewoldt said.
“You don’t trade people in or get rid of people week in, week out. You can’t get rid of a good person and then hopefully have him back in two weeks. The commentary about trading some of our better players is exactly that.”
RANCE conceded that he expected to be playing finals in 2016 but was confident the club would be able to rebound quickly.
“You naturally expect when you play finals that you’re just going to keep on that track,” he said.
“This year was a bit of an anomaly but I don’t see that it is going to be putting us too far back behind the eight ball.
“It’s not as though we’ve completely turned over our list, we’ve still got some really good talent and good senior players.
“I think we’re going to be able to turn it around pretty quick.”
'We need to be better'
The Tigers fall from grace has led to calls being made to trade senior players at the end of the year to bring in young talent.
Brett Deledio’s name has been at the forefront of those calls but Rance himself as not been immune.
“No I’m very happy at Tigerland and still contracted for a fair while,” he said.
“When people talk about the talent in our team, I don’t buy into the argument that we need more talent to come in.
“I think we have an extremely talented list, we just need to maximise the talent that’s there.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/alex-rance-says-richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-should-not-be-judged-on-one-season/news-story/f99378999ea6a9c8f552c6aa2866b175
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3.5 (23 ) boarder line hysterical
Fo damien
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3.5 (23 ) boarder line hysterical
Fo damien
Agree
Did I just say that ?
Oh dear , me agreeing with Stalin
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That's why we should trade him
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Jack says they don't ride the rollercoaster ride that many outside the club do. Interesting.
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It would explain his temperament and inconsistency.
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Can someone tell Jack that Rollercoasters go up and down. It's been all stuffen down this year pal. Suggest spending more time practising your goal kicking which has been poohouse this year and less time in media street.
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Can someone tell Jack that Rollercoasters go up and down. It's been all stuffen down this year pal. Suggest spending more time practising your goal kicking which has been poohouse this year and less time in media street.
Correct
Who got him taking the three step garbage
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When is he out of contract
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When is he out of contract
End of 2019.
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FML
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More from Jack:
Riewoldt said the Tigers would use the next four weeks to tinker with their line-up and trial young players who haven’t had many opportunities to date.
He added that the current Richmond list was “very talented”, saying he was excited about some of the younger players coming through, such as Jayden Short and Mabior Chol.
“We’ve got six first or second year-players at the moment that have played less than 20 games. As a senior player that’s nowhere near where I want to be out at the moment, I look at those guys and they made me feel good about where I think we can get to,” Riewoldt said.
Riewoldt said he and his teammates will be desperate to atone for, not only the GWS thrashing but also the last-second Round 2 loss to Collingwood, when the Tigers take on the latter at the MCG this Friday night.
“We’ve got a job to do. I’ve got a job to do Friday night as the other 21 players that do that go out on the weekend, as all the other coaches do,” he said.
“We’ll prepare like we do every week, we’ll prepare as good as we can to play our brand of footy, a better brand of footy than we served up last week.”
http://www.stuff-riewoldt-urges-members-to-remain-patient-with-richmond-sackings-and-trades-not-the-answer/news-story/4f4d5b9af0087a8497a280ed599efdbd
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You've got nothing to do jack.
You all stuffed it up weeks ago.
This is just in your own deluded brain, brother.
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So why with 5 rounds to go did we drop McBean and George, doesnt make sense that now all of a sudden with four rounds to go we will tinker with the line up and introduce some more young players.
Really start to wonder who has brainwashed who at this club. They all seem to believe that our current predicament isnt as bad as we all think it is and a bit of tinkering here and there is going to solve all our problems...WAKE UP YOU MANIACS!
We require major changes in all aspects of the clubs operations, blind Freddy can see that, with the current attitude of the senior players together with a delusional coach I can see another wasted 2017 season coming up.
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"The process is flawless....it's the players....Yeh...."
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Jack has a point. Although change IS needed, the media circus and hysteric it has created is just a bit over the top. However, if thats what is required in order for changes to be made, maybe its a good thing.
and again, just because the players say they support him, doesn;t mean they do. Blues players backed Malthouse and look where he is.
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Jack has a point. Although change IS needed, the media circus and hysteric it has created is just a bit over the top. However, if thats what is required in order for changes to be made, maybe its a good thing.
and again, just because the players say they support him, doesn;t mean they do. Blues players backed Malthouse and look where he is.
Yeah Malthouse is coaching the Recruit team & has them beating the Northern Blues & playing good football. We need him & Dixon down the club to DELIST a few Tigers.
Even those players have more gizzards then Bellis going down the dam wall terrified of heights but they get the job done. Something l can't say for Bellis & Astbury
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Jack has a point. Although change IS needed, the media circus and hysteric it has created is just a bit over the top. However, if thats what is required in order for changes to be made, maybe its a good thing.
and again, just because the players say they support him, doesn;t mean they do. Blues players backed Malthouse and look where he is.
Yeah Malthouse is coaching the Recruit team & has them beating the Northern Blues & playing good football. We need him & Dixon down the club to DELIST a few Tigers.
Even those players have more gizzards then Bellis going down the dam wall terrified of heights but they get the job done. Something l can't say for Bellis & Astbury
The Northern Blues Reserves team and can tell you that the result was fixed, it is "reality" TV after all.
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Deny Deny Deny :banghead
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They're all scared that if they get a new coach, they're going to have to do some hard work
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They're all scared that if they get a new coach, they're going to have to do some hard work
They already doing the hard work mate. Richmond are the hardest working team in the AFL. They just don't realize it. They always chasing the player cause they geve away a 5 metre head start every time. If they man on man ;D then they might get found out some of them have old skills & fight that got them there. They wouldn't be so over worked. Some of these other teams wouldn't look so good against us carrying the ball if they were forced into contested ball.
That is when you sack the coach & the coaching staff & get someone who can coach :snidegrin
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Jack has a point. Although change IS needed, the media circus and hysteric it has created is just a bit over the top. However, if thats what is required in order for changes to be made, maybe its a good thing.
and again, just because the players say they support him, doesn;t mean they do. Blues players backed Malthouse and look where he is.
The club. (Or Wp, can't remember) claimed he was given a two year deal - largely on the back of Trying to cut down on media pressure...
Weak as urine
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LMFAO at the club getting the players to trott out the emotive words in the face of pressure (and rightly deserved pressure.
Crotchin - Dimma is FANTASTIC
Riewoldt - Media is HISTERICAL
Youd think crotch was describing a coach who won us a final this year, and a media who were after his head for that sort of performance.
Just more of the same Richmond PR rubbish of covering arses of incompetents and reinforces the need to clean the place out.
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everyone has been throwing adjectives around like confetti
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more akin to shiete like monkeys
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LMFAO at the club getting the players to trott out the emotive words in the face of pressure (and rightly deserved pressure.
Crotchin - Dimma is FANTASTIC
Riewoldt - Media is HISTERICAL
Youd think crotch was describing a coach who won us a final this year, and a media who were after his head for that sort of performance.
Just more of the same Richmond PR rubbish of covering arses of incompetents and reinforces the need to clean the place out.
Supporters - Our game style is HIDEOUS
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So why with 5 rounds to go did we drop McBean and George, doesnt make sense that now all of a sudden with four rounds to go we will tinker with the line up and introduce some more young players.
Probably because they have made decisions on both those players.
Personally I disagree with the mantra of "just play the kids" insofar as its counterproductive to their development. Instead of having the youth inspired to work hard and finally get a crack at the top level off the back of solid VFL performance just rolling out the carptet for the youth disengages the senior players and creates less of a sense of achievement for the younger guys. I think Melbourne over the past 5-6 years are a really good example of how its not a great model. I think a balance of kids and experience (even if it is mediocre) is a smarter way to go about it (rebuilding). Chances are that most of the "kids" won't turn out to be half as good as everybody's favourite whipping boys Grigg and Chaplin - so why give them preference over the mid to low tier players just because they're young.
In the case of McBean - think the club has made their decision on him; that he's not good enough and will be moved on/delisted (just my opinion), whereas Castagna will get another year or 2.
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Jack has a point. Although change IS needed, the media circus and hysteric it has created is just a bit over the top. However, if thats what is required in order for changes to be made, maybe its a good thing.
and again, just because the players say they support him, doesn;t mean they do. Blues players backed Malthouse and look where he is.
Jack has a good point although it must be said that it sometimes feels like the club is constantly taking quaaludes such is the lack of action to some of the most basic things missing from list management, player development and match day tactics
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Let me tell you all, the people currently running club couldn't give two shakes of poo about its members and fans.
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So why with 5 rounds to go did we drop McBean and George, doesnt make sense that now all of a sudden with four rounds to go we will tinker with the line up and introduce some more young players.
Really start to wonder who has brainwashed who at this club. They all seem to believe that our current predicament isnt as bad as we all think it is and a bit of tinkering here and there is going to solve all our problems...WAKE UP YOU MANIACS!
We require major changes in all aspects of the clubs operations, blind Freddy can see that, with the current attitude of the senior players together with a delusional coach I can see another wasted 2017 season coming up.
The statement by Jack that "What can you say? We've got a lot of young guys that are playing at the moment against a side (GWS) that's going to be right up there at the end of September." is not entirely correct. I would hardly call the team we fielded against GWS a young team.
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Only really played four kids rioli Markov Drummond short
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So why with 5 rounds to go did we drop McBean and George, doesnt make sense that now all of a sudden with four rounds to go we will tinker with the line up and introduce some more young players.
Really start to wonder who has brainwashed who at this club. They all seem to believe that our current predicament isnt as bad as we all think it is and a bit of tinkering here and there is going to solve all our problems...WAKE UP YOU MANIACS!
We require major changes in all aspects of the clubs operations, blind Freddy can see that, with the current attitude of the senior players together with a delusional coach I can see another wasted 2017 season coming up.
The statement by Jack that "What can you say? We've got a lot of young guys that are playing at the moment against a side (GWS) that's going to be right up there at the end of September." is not entirely correct. I would hardly call the team we fielded against GWS a young team.
Exactly. It's PR rubbish