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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on June 04, 2017, 12:18:59 AM
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Good mail. Gunston to Richmond for Geelongs first pick or our first pick next year depending on where they finish and exchange of lower draft picks.
Well done Balme, Gunston would fit perfectly and if Riewoldt goes down we have nothing. Good mail, a lot depends on what we offer Dusty and what he signs for.
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Would rather not...
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what yeahright has said.
What we are finding is how average some players are wihen the chips are down at glenferrie.
Thats a pass for me.
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Two first round picks?
We never learn
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Two first round picks?
We never learn
He's barely worth 1 x a 1st rounder let alone 2.
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No..for me. With the quality of our smalls we only need Jack and a CHF monster who won't be outbodied.
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Two first round picks?
We never learn
He's barely worth 1 x a 1st rounder let alone 2.
I think you two have read that wrong.
It's one or the other I read it as.
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He would be extremely handy roaming around our forwardline as he is a very smart footballer but it really has to do with what we would give up.
It really depends on what other player are available imo.
Hawthorn are after picks as they are smart and know how to REALLY rebuild a side, I just hope we don't put all our eggs in one basket.
We clearly need a second forward option to help Jack and another Jack would be good.
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Hawthorn are after picks as they are smart and know how to REALLY rebuild a side, I just hope we don't put all our eggs in one basket.
No sure if that correlates with the Vickery recruiting
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What rubbish
Hawthorn gave up the farm for O'Meara and others.
They tried to stay relevant and contend again. Last years trade period was a Hawthorn disaster.
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Two first round picks?
We never learn
He's barely worth 1 x a 1st rounder let alone 2.
I think you two have read that wrong.
It's one or the other I read it as.
Yep, fair enough :thumbsup
Still don't think he's worth it
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What rubbish
Hawthorn gave up the farm for O'Meara and others.
They tried to stay relevant and contend again. Last years trade period was a Hawthorn disaster.
Settle down Damo, Mitchell who they got for heaps less than we got Prestia for is DOMINATING!
And a pretty early call on O'Meara. I'd swap O'Meara for Prestia any day of the week.
Both players will be 10 year players for their club.
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Two first round picks?
We never learn
He's barely worth 1 x a 1st rounder let alone 2.
I think you two have read that wrong.
It's one or the other I read it as.
Yep, fair enough :thumbsup
Still don't think he's worth it
What would you be happy to part with to get him?
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It's worked out well for them
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He ain't coming to punt rd
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He ain't coming to punt rd
We've been working on a 2nd tall forward option since Griffiths went down. Gunston is gettable. Is 25, 3 flags and has a club desperate in need of a rebuild. They will trade Gunston, have no loyalty to their players. He won't show loyalty to them. He will come to Richmond and Hawks will let him go for the right trade 100%.
All that matter is $ and what picks we get and whether there is a bidding war for him at trade week. If those things align he will be at Richmond next year.
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We need KPFs.
As such, I would not give up a first rounder for Gunston. Maybe a third rounder as they gave up Lewis and Mitchell for nothing....
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We need KPFs.
As such, I would not give up a first rounder for Gunston. Maybe a third rounder as they gave up Lewis and Mitchell for nothing....
3rd rounder? Come on mate!
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We need KPFs.
As such, I would not give up a first rounder for Gunston. Maybe a third rounder as they gave up Lewis and Mitchell for nothing....
3rd rounder? Come on mate!
OK. 3rd and Conca... ;D
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Gunston is 25, i think other clubs would give picks between 12 and 25.
Maybe we give up Lennon or Ellis or picks. But Hawks will deal for a rebuild.
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My beef is that his currency has dropped enormously this year. He has stunk it up big time. Has he won a game for them at all this year? Goal kicking had really gone off too.
Why would you give up a first for someone who is a front runner?
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Kurt Tippet
With Swans paying 50% of his salary
Please don't shoot the messenger 😉😂
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Kurt Tippet
With Swans paying 50% of his salary
Please don't shoot the messenger 😉😂
Is he mates with Nank? ;)
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He ain't coming to punt rd
With respect, your mail on which players end up going where has been horrifically inaccurate over the years.
Why are you accurate with this mail?
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He ain't coming to punt rd
With respect, your mail on which players end up going where has been horrifically inaccurate over the years.
Why are you accurate with this mail?
Don't shoot the messenger
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He ain't coming to punt rd
With respect, your mail on which players end up going where has been horrifically inaccurate over the years.
Why are you accurate with this mail?
Don't shoot the messenger
Means nothing.
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You are probably right
But
I know Swans are trying to free up
salary cap
He is the obvious one to be pushed out, but you know everything
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Is that a FACT?
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The more i think about it the more i like the deal.
Say Geelong finish 3rd its pick 16.
Pick 16 for a key fwd who is 25 and over the last 3 years averages 2.4 goals a game. Yes that was fed from a rampant hawthorn midfield but surely would still average 2 goals a game for us with our mids.
So pick 16 for a 40-50 goals per year. Jack kicks 50-60 per year.
No brainer.
As for Tippet, hes 31 next year and a mercenary. Not interested
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I would love Gunston but not at the price that Hawks would want as they would be after draft picks. Reliable set shot, proven in big games and durable body, my only question would be hunger as he has already won a few. Jack, Gunston with another tall forward/ruckman surrounded by our smalls would give us a genuine flag shot. If we got another tall forward in free agency I could justify the price for Gunston though seeing it as the price for the forward line and not just one player.
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The more i think about it the more i like the deal.
Say Geelong finish 3rd its pick 16.
Pick 16 for a key fwd who is 25 and over the last 3 years averages 2.4 goals a game. Yes that was fed from a rampant hawthorn midfield but surely would still average 2 goals a game for us with our mids.
So pick 16 for a 40-50 goals per year. Jack kicks 50-60 per year.
No brainer.
As for Tippet, hes 31 next year and a mercenary. Not interested
Works out to be essentially Deledio for Gunston if we went that way. Not so terrible when you do the final sum game.
I'd take Tippet for peanuts and if Syd cover around 60% of the packet. So I don't see it happening.
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I'd rather take our picks to draft and back our recruiters who have been ok over the last 2 years. Will Sutherland sounds better than either to be honest.
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One thing is for sure.
If we part with anything for Tippet, I will be cancelling my membership.
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Just for posterity and so certain posters don't falsely claim they were first again:
Hope Will Sutherland nominates for the draft - 195 cm mid/forward likened to Bontempelli & tipped to go between 10 & 20....just what we need... :shh
:shh :shh
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I'd rather take our picks to draft and back our recruiters who have been ok over the last 2 years. Will Sutherland sounds better than either to be honest.
Just fur posaterity and so you don't incorrectly claim you were first again:
Hope Will Sutherland nominates for the draft - 195 cm mid/forward likened to Bontempelli & tipped to go between 10 & 20....just what we need... :shh
:shh :shh
I tipped this bloke 3 years ago :thumbsup
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Wanted him when he was conceived! :shh
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I conceived him
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Kurt Tippet
With Swans paying 50% of his salary
Please don't shoot the messenger 😉😂
I'd be okay with that depending on what we give up for him. We're in desperate need of someone on the cheap as back up stuff on top of another few genuine KPP. Let him rot in the magoo's until we need him (provided he doesn't get injured). But knowing the powers to be we'd give up a good pick and have to justify it by playing him every week
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NO TIPPET NO GUNSTON NO WAY, game over man
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Gunstons stats today:-
19 Disposals
12 marks
4 Tackles
2 Clearances
5 Goals
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Gunstons stats today:-
19 Disposals
12 marks
4 Tackles
2 Clearances
5 Goals
He is a very good player when he is on. Hasn't been "on" much this year when the side has really needed him. Today he was fantastic. Kudos to him.
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Gunstons stats today:-
19 Disposals
12 marks
4 Tackles
2 Clearances
5 Goals
He is a very good player when he is on. Hasn't been "on" much this year when the side has really needed him. Today he was fantastic. Kudos to him.
This is exactly what concerns me and what confirms for me something i have thought for awhile "He is a lazy footballer" When was the last time he had stats like this? and what do you know it happens the very next game after people start questioning his trade potential, does he have any value and the like.
This fellow no doubt CAN BE a really good player but he is lazy and has been for a few seasons actually, even when the hawks were doing well, he's a coaster. So therefore I really question his hunger, he has three medals, has nothing to prove, he might just chase the dollars and rest on his laurels, tread carefully.
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Gunstons stats today:-
19 Disposals
12 marks
4 Tackles
2 Clearances
5 Goals
He is a very good player when he is on. Hasn't been "on" much this year when the side has really needed him. Today he was fantastic. Kudos to him.
This is exactly what concerns me and what confirms for me something i have thought for awhile "He is a lazy footballer" When was the last time he had stats like this? and what do you know it happens the very next game after people start questioning his trade potential, does he have any value and the like.
This fellow no doubt CAN BE a really good player but he is lazy and has been for a few seasons actually, even when the hawks were doing well, he's a coaster. So therefore I really question his hunger, he has three medals, has nothing to prove, he might just chase the dollars and rest on his laurels, tread carefully.
Gunston's goal average per game at Hawthorn. The Hawks demise has more than halved his goal output.
2012 2.05 goals per game
2013 2.00
2014 2.52
2015 2.38
2016 2.13
2017 0.91
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/J/Jack_Gunston.html
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What rubbish
Hawthorn gave up the farm for O'Meara and others.
They tried to stay relevant and contend again. Last years trade period was a Hawthorn disaster.
Think this is wrong they gave up a fair bit for two players granted, but when you offload players like Nitchell and lewis, winning a flag or even top 4 was never the priority for them imo.
As for Gunston fantastic player just about the best third tall fwd in the game and thats what he is a third tall who has been asked to play kp a lot of the time.
People saying he is lazy or hes struggled this yr what a joke he has struggled to kick goals granted but he continues to get plenty of ball and works hard to create a target. If people want a contested marking player or someone who is going to crash packs then he aint your man he is your typical smart hit up and lead tall type who continually moves.
He would be an ideal get for our club, fair dinkum at 25 with a great record people around here are really underselling him as a player and what he is worthand to be honest i think people arekidding themselves if they think the Hawks would trade him out he would be a required player at any club.
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If he played for Richmond you would say he's soft and doesn't apply enough defensive pressure.
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If he played for Richmond you would say he's soft and doesn't apply enough defensive pressure.
If we traded our first round pick for the Saints number 10 (effectively pick 3) and 2 all time great players for nothing Claw would have a coronary.
I enjoy your posts Claw but if you want to barrack for Hawthorn then post on their forum.
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It's actually hilarious how anti-Richmond he is. Anything we do = wrong. Anything other teams do = right.
Granted, we've still got a lot of work to do but if you'd read his posts in isolation you'd think we'd be winless on the bottom of the ladder.
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If he played for Richmond you would say he's soft and doesn't apply enough defensive pressure.
Would i, wow thats some sort of mind reading ability right there. How dumb are you. Your on another thread having a cheap shot and talking about how sides dont play three talls and castigating me about how the games changed and how rubbish it is playing three talls yet here i am consistent as ever wanting a bloke like gunston to play THIRD tall.I dont believe Jack Gunstons courage has ever been questioned by anyone.
Why do you constantly feel the need to start personal poo fights by attacking the poster rather than debating what has been said.
Mate if you think Gunston is no good and we should not be interested have the balls to say so. But dont have a go at me for thinking differently.If i ever call him soft it will be because i see it until then how about we take what people say on face value eh. No wonder this site cant grow so many stuffing idiot heads.
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Would be happy to pick up Gunston.
Only one poor season so far, this year, coinciding with a very poor year from Hawthorn in general, which would effect Gunston's scoreboard impact.
Even Roughead is having a quiet year, and Cyril too. Whole team is off.
DO NOT want Tippet.
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As for Gunston fantastic player just about the best third tall fwd in the game and thats what he is a third tall who has been asked to play kp a lot of the time.
If people want a contested marking player or someone who is going to crash packs then he aint your man he is your typical smart hit up and lead tall type who continually moves.
He would be an ideal get for our club,
Wait, aren't you the one who says that JR is a third tall who has to play KP? Why would we actively seek another one if we have no genuine KPF?
Also lol at Grimes being soft but this peanut isn't?
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I changed my mind when I heard we want that overrated hack Tippett
Come on down Jack. We welcome you with open arms
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As for Gunston fantastic player just about the best third tall fwd in the game and thats what he is a third tall who has been asked to play kp a lot of the time.
If people want a contested marking player or someone who is going to crash packs then he aint your man he is your typical smart hit up and lead tall type who continually moves.
He would be an ideal get for our club,
Wait, aren't you the one who says that JR is a third tall who has to play KP? Why would we actively seek another one if we have no genuine KPF?
Also lol at Grimes being soft but this peanut isn't?
Just another childish post that Claw was talking about. Grow up mate you aren't proving anything to anyone.
Im sure Willy can fight his own battles without you weighing in.
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As for Gunston fantastic player just about the best third tall fwd in the game and thats what he is a third tall who has been asked to play kp a lot of the time.
If people want a contested marking player or someone who is going to crash packs then he aint your man he is your typical smart hit up and lead tall type who continually moves.
He would be an ideal get for our club,
Wait, aren't you the one who says that JR is a third tall who has to play KP? Why would we actively seek another one if we have no genuine KPF?
Also lol at Grimes being soft but this peanut isn't?
Just another childish post that Claw was talking about. Grow up mate you aren't proving anything to anyone.
Im sure Willy can fight his own battles without you weighing in.
Dont worry about it bt nowdays i usually just pop in once in a while give my opinion on what ever catches the eye then get out and leave em to it let wallow in their own small mindedness most of them deserve each other.
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As for Gunston fantastic player just about the best third tall fwd in the game and thats what he is a third tall who has been asked to play kp a lot of the time.
If people want a contested marking player or someone who is going to crash packs then he aint your man he is your typical smart hit up and lead tall type who continually moves.
He would be an ideal get for our club,
Wait, aren't you the one who says that JR is a third tall who has to play KP? Why would we actively seek another one if we have no genuine KPF?
Also lol at Grimes being soft but this peanut isn't?
Just another childish post that Claw was talking about. Grow up mate you aren't proving anything to anyone.
Im sure Willy can fight his own battles without you weighing in.
Do you not understand what discussion/debate is? Surely you're old enough to understand that people have different opinions and it's okay to discuss it. This isn't about "fighting Willy's battle" or trying to troll Claw or whatever it is you conjure up in that insecure mind of yours. Claws on record as saying Jack is a "third tall forward" and has copped some stuff for it, for which I actually agreed with him to an extent (I still think he can play KPF just fine) but let's not confuse you. So I find it interesting he wants us going for another third forward type when we need a big strong bodied forward who can preferably pinch hit in the ruck much much more
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If he played for Richmond you would say he's soft and doesn't apply enough defensive pressure.
Would i, wow thats some sort of mind reading ability right there. How dumb are you. Your on another thread having a cheap shot and talking about how sides dont play three talls and castigating me about how the games changed and how rubbish it is playing three talls yet here i am consistent as ever wanting a bloke like gunston to play THIRD tall.I dont believe Jack Gunstons courage has ever been questioned by anyone.
Why do you constantly feel the need to start personal poo fights by attacking the poster rather than debating what has been said.
Mate if you think Gunston is no good and we should not be interested have the balls to say so. But dont have a go at me for thinking differently.If i ever call him soft it will be because i see it until then how about we take what people say on face value eh. No wonder this site cant grow so many stuffing idiot heads.
I'm not going to respond to your entire poorly written, poorly punctuated diatribe but the fact that you don't think Gunston is soft just illustrates my point. You have one set of criteria for Richmond players and one for everyone else.
And FWIW I rate Gunston and would trade for him. I'm just sick of your predictable anti-Richmond BS.