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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 03, 2019, 02:40:48 PM
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On sale now.
https://am.ticketmaster.com/richmond/#/
https://am.ticketmaster.com/richmond/browsepackages#/
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A lot of TBC on the browse page :-\
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VIDEO: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-10-07/thank-you-tiger-army
Thank you Tiger Army for being there with us to fight and fight and win. Renew or join for 2020 at www.strongandbold.com.au.
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First membership tally update for 2020:
As of 19/11/2019
68,508
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Out of interest, we're 5,500 ahead of that same time last year.
19/11/2019 68,508
19/11/2018 63,000
We are on target to have around 82k by Christmas.
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I reckon 115,000 would be a fair effort for next season. 120,000 would be outstanding.
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Mine arrived today.
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the current number highlights how many people are on the rolling tiger payment plan :clapping
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJyhke1U0AIbnt6?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/Donna_Edge_/status/1197009308770156545
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They seriously don't have the girls on the membership card surely ?
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They seriously don't have the girls on the membership card surely ?
Why wouldn't they?
Are they not part of the club With their inaugural season coming up?
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the current number highlights how many people are on the rolling tiger payment plan :clapping
One of the things identified early on was that there were about 10,000 members that did not renew the following year. The rolling Tiger payment plan helps reduce this "churn" and hence the increase in overall numbers
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They seriously don't have the girls on the membership card surely ?
Why wouldn't they?
Are they not part of the club With their inaugural season coming up?
Have totally no interest and entitled to my opinion
Edited in case the white night snowflakes of the world try and make an example of an honest opinion
What a joke
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They seriously don't have the girls on the membership card surely ?
Why wouldn't they?
Are they not part of the club With their inaugural season coming up?
Have totally no interest and entitled to my opinion
Edited in case the white night snowflakes of the world try and make an example of an honest opinion
What a joke
You are entitled to your opinion especially around about women's footy, everyone is. You have made your views on it very clear ;)
All I asked is why wouldn't they include them?
They are part of the Club and that's all this is about including
Would you have the same angst if the wheelchair players were on the card as well?
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You don’t get it or me
I pay to watch the men okay and the men only
Wish them all the best and good luck to them, but it’s not
why I’m a member
Love the way you try and twist it NOT
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People are all different and are members for a whole host of different reasons. No one is judging. However, we have never ever got individualised designed membership cards and it's unrealistic these days with over 100k members.
The Club sees itself though as many teams (including now two AFL ones) but still the one club. The membership card is just reflecting the Club in 2020 as it has done in any previous year. Not an issue from my p.o.v.
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You don’t get it or me
I pay to watch the men okay and the men only
Wish them all the best and good luck to them, but it’s not
why I’m a member
Love the way you try and twist it NOT
Twist what exactly???
I asked you a simple question which you've partially answered in a very aggressive manner.
Regarding women's footy I get that you have no time, interest, respect for it in any way shape or form. That is your choice
I've got that right haven't I? I don't think I am twisting anything saying that
You have made that very clear many times in a number of threads that you want nothing to do with women's footy.
I get you don't have to like it, no one is asking you to like it, watch it or care about it.
But you are clearly aggrieved because the Club has made a decision to include 2 of our women players on this years membership cards and are making it sound like they've committed to horrendous crime and cheapened memberships in the process
The pictures being on the card make no difference to your membership and your ability to attend the games you want to attend.Do you think it is somehow going lessen what your membership means to YOU?
I'd sincerely hope not but only you can answer that
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You’re a bit stupid aren’t you
You twist it be asking if I Would be aggrieved if it was the men’s wheelchair team like I’m sexist or something and you know darn well that’s what you insinuated
And no it does make no difference to my love of the Tigers at all
If you would of learnt anything over the years you would of known that at least
That’s enough
Bye
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You’re a bit stupid aren’t you
You twist it be asking if I Would be aggrieved if it was the men’s wheelchair team like I’m sexist or something and you know darn well that’s what you insinuated
And no it does make no difference to my love of the Tigers at all
If you would of learnt anything over the years you would of known that at least
That’s enough
Bye
Thanks for the insult, no need for it but whatever
Are you or are you not making a it massive deal about women being on the cards? Yes or No?
So isn't it fair to ask of you are angry because it is the women or would you be equally as angry of it was the wheelchair players or even the VFL guys? Fair question I would have thought
Is it that You don't want anyone else on the cards or is it that you dont want the women :huh
Which is it?
Don't know how to break this to you cub but you made it about gender with your very first post.
Was it your intention? Probably not but that's what you did and now you are being ultra defensive about it going as far to fling a few insults when you're asked a simple question that you still haven't answered I might add
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They wouldn’t and didn’t bother putting the VFL players on the card, and won’t ..
Australia as a country has gone PC stupid (can I still use the word stupid?) .. it’s all about keeping the PC sooks happy in some way , although they will still find plenty to sook about , so whatever
I think them being on the card is absolutely ridiculous, but at the same time it’s not something I’ll care about one iota ..
I’ll spend as much time watching the woman’s team as I will looking at my membership card, sweet diff all .. and no , I’m not some big anti woman’s footy bloke, as it happens I help at a junior club and my daughters love playing ..
The AFL loves being the face of PC Australia , and the RFC is no different
We have woman’s round
We have aboriginal round , which is now across two full rounds
We have multi cultural round
We have gay round
We basically cover everything except the white man
When are they going to have the white man round? Or don’t we need that one?
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I haven’t seen it but I like it. It’s a white mans game so the other rounds acknowledge that as an exception to the rule...
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the womens team is a part of our club now so they have a right to be marketed equally and that's also about being on the membership cards. personally I think the womens league is a joke and embarrassing in terms of skill level and do I agree that rfc should be in it my answer is no but they are a part of the club and the club needs totry and make it a success
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the current number highlights how many people are on the rolling tiger payment plan :clapping
I'm not on the rolling plan.
And I know of many that aren't.
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the rolling plan works great for the club and I have to admit its been convenient for me as a member. everyone wins especially the club
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As of 22/11/2019
70,066
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Same time last year comparison
23/11/2019: 70,066
23/11/2018: 65,131
Club-by-club membership tally (only a few clubs have published so far)
Richmond 70,066
Carlton 42,182
GWS 11,955
Brisbane 4,460
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wait..who are the snowflakes? the ones bitching about birds being on the memberships or the ones not saying anything? I am confused. Personally I don't mind looking a bird rather than a hairy arsed bloke, you can call me a weirdo for that but hey, takes all kinds right?
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As of 26/11/2019
71,689
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As of 28/11/2019
72,413
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As of 03/12/2019
73,234
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Later update 03/12/2019
77,216
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(http://image.tmclient.ticketmaster.com/lib/fe9815707d640c7e76/m/6/a132da0c-5f07-4d46-ba8a-5cb1bdd19d30.png)
Whoever in the membership dept. designed this deserves some credit.
:thumbsup
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We're just under 4,000 ahead of the same time last year.
04/12/2019 77,216
04/12/2018 73,484
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Club membership tallies - 06/12/2019
Richmond 77,216
Essendon 49,687
Carlton 49,312
Geelong 41,830
Port Adel. 37,279
St Kilda 30,245
Melbourne 30,000
Brisbane 17,741
GWS Giants 13,471
N/A - Adelaide, Collingwood, Fremantle, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, North, Sydney, West Coast, Bulldogs.
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Mine arrived today
Have to say the members cap is very good, good quality :thumbsup
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As of 06/12/2019
78,470
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As of 11/12/2019
79,330
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We're over 4000 ahead of the same time last year.
11/12/2019 79,330
11/12/2018 75,033
Based on last year's numbers we'll have 81k by the start of the Christmas break.
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As of 12/12/2019
79,940
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Over 80k before Christmas :thumbsup.
As of 13/12/2019
80,281
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1205248209569767424
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As of 19/12/2019
81,738
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As of 20/12/2019
82,500
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First update for 2020.
As of 13/01/2020
83,648
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We're roughly 6,000 ahead of this time last year.
13/01/2020 83,648
10/01/2019 77,747
14/01/2019 77,979
So on target for 110k this year.
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As of 16/01/2020
84,384
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Same time last year comparison:
16/01/2020 84,384
16/01/2019 78,398
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Club-vs-club membership tally update
Richmond 83,384
Essendon 58,873
Carlton 53,094
Geelong 46,672
St Kilda 35,132
W.Bulldogs 32,104
North Melb. 30,254
Melbourne 29,764
Brisbane 21,411
GWS 21,098
N/A - Adelaide, Collingwood, Fremantle, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Sydney, West Coast.
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As of 01/02/2020
86,334
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We're 5,793 ahead of this time last year :thumbsup.
Here's our membership tally list at this time of the year since 2004. It shows how amazingly far we have come from since then:
01/02/2004 15,137
26/01/2005 15,021
29/01/2006 18,893
30/01/2007 19,757
31/01/2008 21,645
28/01/2009 25,685
01/02/2010 21,601
31/01/2011 28,082
31/01/2012 30,007
31/01/2013 36,266
03/02/2014 48,518
02/02/2015 52,594
01/02/2016 57,054
01/02/2017 54,816
01/02/2018 71,012
01/02/2019 80,541
01/02/2020 86,334
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=28198.msg647396#msg647396
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This week, the Tigers had 2244 Women’s Football Foundation members and want as many as possible to support Richmond’s AFLW team in its first year. Details: https://am.ticketmaster.com/richmond/womensfootball#/
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/heres-how-to-find-the-best-afl-membership-deal/news-story/d7220bad569c78023e7a3cb758ab3b4a
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As of 06/02/2020
87,879
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It’s more than a catchcry, or Club song lyric - this famous phrase has become an identity for Richmond members and fans everywhere.
Whether it's Tiger fans who live in Richmond heartland, or those who reside or come from different corners of the world, Richmond supporters unite by knowing that we are all, from Tigerland.
This iconic phrase is now the identity of the Club’s 2020 membership campaign, reminding supporters that when they join as Richmond members, they become part of a community, not just a football club.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/562098/we-re-from-tigerland
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As of 10/02/2020
88,538
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As of 13/02/2020
88,838
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Club-vs-club membership tally update
Richmond 88,838
Essendon 62,194
Carlton 58,146
Port Adel. 49,258
Geelong 48,341
Fremantle 44,731
St Kilda 38,164
W.Bulldogs 35,300
North Melb. 33,533
Melbourne 32,157
Brisbane 24,744
GWS 22,912
N/A - Adelaide, Collingwood, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Sydney, West Coast.
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Interestingly that the Hawks are silent on memberships now. :shh :rollin
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Still a month to go before round 1 and we've already passed 90k :thumbsup.
As of 17/02/2020
90,128
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(https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/simgad/6576645463983404145)
Source: RFC website.
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As of 21/02/2020
90,985
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Club membership tallies - 21/02/2020
Richmond 90,958
Essendon 63,403
Carlton 60,546
Geelong 51,114
Port Adel. 49,915
Fremantle 44,731
St Kilda 39,697
W.Bulldogs 35,300
North Melb. 34,010
Melbourne 32,735
Brisbane 25,326
GWS Giants 23,266
N/A - Adelaide, Collingwood, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Sydney, West Coast.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER_VnkvUwAAvsww?format=png&name=small)
https://twitter.com/footyindustryAU/status/1233939824437940224
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESTKJoiWoAA1_oQ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/EchoMothy/status/1235334485832499203
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As of 06/03/2020
94,376
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We're 5,558 ahead of this time last year.
06/03/2020: 94,376
06/03/2019: 88,818
So still heading towards a final tally of ~110k :thumbsup.
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As of 11/03/2020
95,449
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As of 11/03/2020
95,449
that's a decent jump
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Club membership tallies - 13/03/2020
Richmond 95,449
West Coast 91,782
Hawthorn 67,750
Essendon 67,649
Carlton 64,270
Geelong 53,066
Port Adel. 51,541
Fremantle 46,006
St Kilda 43,102
W.Bulldogs 37,245
North Melb. 36,105
Melbourne 36,063
Brisbane 29,133
GWS Giants 26,943
N/A - Adelaide, Collingwood, Gold Coast, Sydney.
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Is that west coast figure legit?
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Won't be needing this for a while but anyway (via a Club email):
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Is that west coast figure legit?
From Ch 10 news in Perth.
The @WestCoastEagles launched their 2020 season this afternoon with news of yet another membership record 91,782 and counting. | @ScubaStv
https://twitter.com/10NewsFirstPER/status/1238045713449259008
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What did they get last year? That seems like a hell of a jump without coming off a premiership.
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What did they get last year? That seems like a hell of a jump without coming off a premiership.
They were second behind us last year on 90,445.
https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/AM-Membership-Totals_Infographics_2.jpg (https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/AM-Membership-Totals_Infographics_2.jpg)
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will clubs have to refund memberships if there is no football this season. about 75% of clubs could be forced to close there doors forever in that instance
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will clubs have to refund memberships if there is no football this season. about 75% of clubs could be forced to close there doors forever in that instance
Unless there's a force majeure clause on memberships then they probably will have to offer refunds. Legally you can't keep a payment and not provide the goods/service it was meant for.
I'm guessing we'd be hoping that a significant number of members will be happy for the Club to keep the money as a donation or in lieu of some extra recognition reward in the future when this is all over.
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I'm guessing we'd be hoping that a significant number of members will be happy for the Club to keep the money as a donation or in lieu of some extra recognition reward in the future when this is all over.
Sounds like a plan
:thumbsup
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As of 19/03/2020
96,532
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1000 up since the crowd ban.
Never underestimate the loyalty of Tigers supporters :clapping :gotigers.
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Mark Stevens on Ch7 news last night said (some?) clubs are refunding memberships to those claiming hardship.
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If your living in hardship you probably shouldnt be spending money on footy memberships anyway. $200 doesnt send anyone into poverty.
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If your living in hardship you probably shouldnt be spending money on footy memberships anyway. $200 doesnt send anyone into poverty.
:banghead
You just don't get it. $200 does put food on the table though doesn't it? Helps pay the mortgage
Remember most of the govt allowances haven't started being paid yet
Don't think any of us have the right to pot people who are making choices for the betterment of their families, their lives.
And I do know a couple of folks who have contacted the club and ask that their monthly pay,ants stop for now
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Im not potting anyone. I just have a view that if money is tight within a family they probably wouldnt spend money on football memberships but i could be wrong.
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Eddie on Footy Classifield said clubs would go under if there was a run on the clubs by people wanting their memberships reimbursed.
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i agreed with Tony Jones 100%. Eddie was dancing around the question in fear of a run on for those seeking refunds.
Each to their own. I wont be, but have no issue if any member does. Its not anyones fault but the AFL proping up duds like saints north and suns for many years, now in their time of need are asking us for a favor.
Understood the club is a different beast to the afl, but maybe the clubs should have stood firm instead of agreeing to expansion and agreeing to continual aid given to these clubs.
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Hopefull theres a run on memberships at Norf StK Melb and Bulldogs. They should all merge.
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They can have my two as a donation
#notafairweathersupporter
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Gillon McLachlan confirms AFL club membership refunds
ABC
2 April 2020
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan has confirmed that club members will be refunded if they need to be but implored those who could afford to continue paying for their membership to do so, to support their club.
McLachlan said he understood the plight of clubs who had already been forced to cut approximately 80 per cent of their staff.
"Those for whom the footy club is almost part of their family, if they're able to maintain their membership and keep going, it will go a long way to getting their clubs through this and that's Ed's point. I think it is important and you've got to marry the two priorities up," McLachlan said.
"Clearly the footy clubs rely on club membership and for those who have been making a contribution because of that connection and that loyalty for such a long time, if they're able to keep their membership it goes a long way to keeping the club sustainable."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-02/gillon-mclachlan-confirms-afl-club-membership-refunds/1211344
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They can have my two as a donation
#notafairweathersupporter
so you are an afl member too, and have no issue with the afl keeping it? or are you referring to the club one?
each to their own, not going to bag anyone for taking either stance. I would find it odd if anyone let the AFL (not club) keep their hard earned money given what they do with the profits from the competition. I have zero sympathy for those scum bags.
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Gillon McLachlan confirms AFL club membership refunds
ABC
2 April 2020
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan has confirmed that club members will be refunded if they need to be but implored those who could afford to continue paying for their membership to do so, to support their club.
McLachlan said he understood the plight of clubs who had already been forced to cut approximately 80 per cent of their staff.
"Those for whom the footy club is almost part of their family, if they're able to maintain their membership and keep going, it will go a long way to getting their clubs through this and that's Ed's point. I think it is important and you've got to marry the two priorities up," McLachlan said.
"Clearly the footy clubs rely on club membership and for those who have been making a contribution because of that connection and that loyalty for such a long time, if they're able to keep their membership it goes a long way to keeping the club sustainable."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-02/gillon-mclachlan-confirms-afl-club-membership-refunds/1211344
what about the afl membership Gill??????
did i miss something in that article
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MCC considers membership refund debate
Scott Spits
The Age
2 April 2020 4:25pm
The Melbourne Cricket Club faces a looming dilemma about possible membership refunds should the coronavirus crisis wipe out hope of AFL fans attending MCG matches before the end of August.
As debate heats up about whether supporters can and should be able to request a partial or whole refund from their club for the 2020 season, MCC members are in a different position given their annual membership dues were paid for a 12-month period that began at the start of last September.
In that time, MCC members have had access to AFL finals, Big Bash League matches and international cricket including the first Boxing Day cricket Test between Australia and New Zealand at the MCG in more than 30 years.
In a message to MCC members after the AFL announced the 2020 season was suspended, president Michael Happell said the MCC was unable to give clarity about potential refunds or returns to members if additional events and games scheduled for the event are cancelled.
"The global COVID-19 pandemic is still evolving and until the club can understand the full impact it will have on the 2020 AFL premiership season, we're not in a position to give an answer at this time," Happell wrote.
"We will keep members updated as the situation continues to unfold."
An MCC spokesperson said the club was getting a lot of queries from members via social media but due to the overall uncertainty of coronavirus no further decisions had been reached.
"People have gotten value out of their memberships so far," the spokesperson said.
The club also has to factor into their considerations that even if the AFL is able to resume at some point, matches might again be played in crowd-less stadiums with only key personnel – players, club officials, ground staff and media – able to attend.
The MCC said members who had purchased daily reserved seats or visitor tickets for AFL matches originally scheduled between rounds two and 11 would be contacted by Ticketek.
"Whilst the AFL has suspended the AFL premiership season until at least May 31, the situation regarding the impact of COVID-19 is still evolving. As such we will continue to keep members informed regarding future games as details emerge," Happell said.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mcc-considers-membership-refund-debate-20200402-p54ghs.html
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They can have my two as a donation
#notafairweathersupporter
so you are an afl member too, and have no issue with the afl keeping it? or are you referring to the club one?
each to their own, not going to bag anyone for taking either stance. I would find it odd if anyone let the AFL (not club) keep their hard earned money given what they do with the profits from the competition. I have zero sympathy for those scum bags.
two club ones in my family, not an afl member and yes it would be different for sure i had an afl membership
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They can have my two as a donation
#notafairweathersupporter
so you are an afl member too, and have no issue with the afl keeping it? or are you referring to the club one?
each to their own, not going to bag anyone for taking either stance. I would find it odd if anyone let the AFL (not club) keep their hard earned money given what they do with the profits from the competition. I have zero sympathy for those scum bags.
two club ones in my family, not an afl member and yes it would be different for sure i had an afl membership
:thumbsup i thought you would think the same
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I buy 3 each year, if you cash in do you go back to being a 1st year member?
I wouldn't but would understand if someone is on their knees
Tough call but family would come first for most people.
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As of 03/04/2020
96,770
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Richmond president Peggy O'Neal urges fans struggling to pay memberships to get in touch
On Mornings with Virginia Trioli
ABC
3 April 2020
With games off the table, the focus of the AFL season has now shifted to the issue of club memberships and refunds.
The AFL has told supporters that anyone who needs a refund can get one, but Collingwood president Eddie McGuire fears a rush on refunds could cause some clubs to fold.
Richmond president Peggy O'Neal says she understands if members want refunds, and urged any experiencing financial stress to get in touch with the club.
"Members are important to clubs but we have to realise there's a human side to all of this," she told Virginia Trioli and Kelli Underwood.
"Having food on the table is going to trump watching the Tigers play, and we aren't playing right now.
"We sold more than 50 memberships last week and people are making donations just as a show of support and we appreciate that."
Duration: 5min 24sec
Broadcast: Fri 3 Apr 2020, 8:30am
Listen here: https://www.abc.net.au/radio/melbourne/programs/mornings/afl-richmond-president-talks-memberships/12118116
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As of 09/04/2020
97,003
"The Tiger Army now has 97,000 members for 2020, a feat that I find both humbling and inspiring”.
Hear from the skipper as he announces our latest membership milestone. Strong and Bold together 💛 #fromTigerland #gotiges
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1248128171863465989
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TIGERS EDGE CLOSER TO 100K MEMBERS
A mass purchase of Richmond memberships has the Tigers ticking closer to 100,000 members.
Jen Drake, a Tigers fan from Apollo Bay, tipped the reigning premiers to 97,000 by purchasing seven memberships to get the club to the milestone.
“Yes, I still pay for my kids, but happy birthday to nieces and nephew,” she tweeted.
Richmond currently holds the highest membership count of any AFL club, a particular point in 2020 given the financial uncertainty surrounding the coronavirus crisis and future of the AFL season.
Tigers skipper Trent Cotchin thanked Richmond supporters for their commitment, which he described as “incredibly humbling, but also inspiring”.
“The pandemic we’re going through at the moment … it’s obviously tremendously troubling – not just to our sport or our club, it’s a worldwide thing,” he said in a video to members
“To see you guys show up and continue to show the support that you do, it makes me really proud.”
— By Sam Landsberger
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-news-all-the-happenings-in-the-footy-world-during-the-coronavirusenforced-stoppage/news-story/7f88fe6b9ce19b364ce7a37e5dc07d9f
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Richmond and Tiger Army will Fight and Fight and Win Together
By richmondfc.com.au
17 April 2020
Richmond has called on the mighty Tiger Army to fight with the Club for a strong and bold future.
The Club has released a new campaign rallying Richmond members and supporters to Fight and Fight and Win alongside the Club, as we all navigate through this challenging COVID-19 crisis.
Fight and Fight and Win, inspired by Richmond’s famous Club song, captures the tough Tiger spirit, and gritty determination of the Club, its players, members and supporters, reminding everyone that together, we’ll get through this.
Fight and Fight and Win is brought to life by a video piece, narrated by star Richmond midfielder, Dustin Martin, and features fighting moments to remind the Tiger Army of some of the key Richmond highlights etched in all of our memories.
Richmond CEO, Brendon Gale, shared his appreciation of Club members’ continued support.
“We can never question the unwavering passion and loyalty of the Tiger Army, and now more than ever, we find ourselves in a time where we really need their continued support,” he said.
“As a Club, we’ve been through adversity in the past, and together, with our members’ support, we’ve found a way through, and we’ll do it again.
“The current situation is difficult, as a Club we’re fighting to create a strong, bold and winning future. We understand its tough for everyone right now, but we want the Tiger Army to know that we’ll fight together, and win together.”
FIGHT AND WIN: Join or renew with the Tiger Army, or contact our membership team if your circumstances have changed. (https://am.ticketmaster.com/richmond/#/)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/585700/
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The club is down about 6000 members from last year. Thats another $1 million lost. For the club
To already have made this call to arms means its bleeding cash. Anyone who hasnt renewed should do
So even if its a 3 game membership. It took a long time for us to re-emerge as a powerhouse lets not lose our status because of corona virus issues.
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That's dissapointing but look at the environment.
Ramps do you know If all other clubs are down as well?
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That's dissapointing but look at the environment.
Ramps do you know If all other clubs are down as well?
Of course they will be, COVID-19 isn’t just affecting RIchmond members ::)
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The club is down about 6000 members from last year. Thats another $1 million lost. For the club
To already have made this call to arms means its bleeding cash. Anyone who hasnt renewed should do
So even if its a 3 game membership. It took a long time for us to re-emerge as a powerhouse lets not lose our status because of corona virus issues.
Bleeding cash? Tad dramatic ::)
Club has stood down 60 odd people, for the majority that remain they are working part time.
Player's wages are being cover by the league but they've all taken pay cuts ( not enough but that's another story)
The fact the club won't be borrowing from the AFL shows they have things under control
You will find we are either still ahead or on par number wise with this time last year
Think you will find very few members have asked for their money back or for their monthly payments to be stopped
Think it is smart move to continue to engage with members. It is actually a brillaint video message.
We are one of 18 clubs and we are and will remain one of if not the strongest in the comp.
Club is on top of this
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Club membership tallies
17/04/2020 2019 Difference %Diff
Richmond 97,003 103,358 -6,355 -6.1 %
West Coast 93,000+ 90,445 +2,555 +2.8 %
Hawthorn 69,361 81,211 -11,850 -14.6 %
Essendon 68,197 84,237 -16,040 -19.0 %
Carlton 64,270 64,269 +1 0.0 %
Geelong 58,142 65,063 -6,921 -10.6 %
Port Adel. 51,759 51,951 -192 -0.4 %
Fremantle 47,069 51,431 -4,362 -8.5 %
Sydney 46,815 61,912 -15,097 -24.4 %
St Kilda 43,576 43,308 +268 +0.6 %
W.Bulldogs 38,401 44,373 -5,972 -13.5 %
Melbourne 38,286 52,421 -14,135 -27.0 %
North Melb. 37,347 42,419 -5,072 -12.0 %
Brisbane 29,508 28,023 +1,485 +5.3 %
GWS Giants 27,297 30,109 -2,812 -9.3 %
2020 N/A - Adelaide (2019: 64,437), Collingwood (85,226), Gold Coast (13,649).
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The club is down about 6000 members from last year. Thats another $1 million lost. For the club
To already have made this call to arms means its bleeding cash. Anyone who hasnt renewed should do
So even if its a 3 game membership. It took a long time for us to re-emerge as a powerhouse lets not lose our status because of corona virus issues.
Bleeding cash? Tad dramatic ::)
no I don't think it is. We are 6000 members down on last year. that's $1 million at least right there. Aligned is not open. Wantirna club closed. No gate receipts at $1 million a gate that's disastrous. so no I don't think its dramatic. its a $10 to 15 million loss
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no I don't think it is. We are 6000 members down on last year. that's $1 million at least right there. Aligned is not open. Wantirna club closed. No gate receipts at $1 million a gate that's disastrous. so no I don't think its dramatic. its a $10 to 15 million loss
$10-$15 million loss?
Sorry that is wrong. Revenue less expense determines your profit or loss
You lose revenue you reduce costs
That is what the club is doing but you are suggesting while they have reduced revenue but haven't reduced their cost base
The club has revenue
Yes they have lost revenue but they have reduced costs
Aligned Leisure centres are closed so correct there is revenue but there are no costs.
Yes they have lost gate takings but they are also not forking out match day costs
And the club has never said it makes a million per game. Blockbusters made but every game? No
Will they make a loss? possibly yes. But not $10-$15 million >:(
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O believe the revenue loss would be substantially bigger than the cost savings made. Anyway we will see. I there is no football played in 2020 I would be expecting a huge loss in the 10-15 range. If less then great. We will see i suppose at the end of the year.
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We also need to consider leasing and rent costs
For Wantirna and all the Aligned centres. Have these rents been waived?
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Are those membership figures comparing the numbers at the same time in the season or last seasons total vs what we are on now? If the latter I wouldn’t count that as a loss either, at least not yet.
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That's dissapointing but look at the environment.
Ramps do you know If all other clubs are down as well?
Of course they will be, COVID-19 isn’t just affecting RIchmond members ::)
true, was really keen how we stood up against them.
6% isnt bad when you look at the turncoat hawks and bombers
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Are those membership figures comparing the numbers at the same time in the season or last seasons total vs what we are on now? If the latter I wouldn’t count that as a loss either, at least not yet.
Last seasons total vs what we are on now. It shows what the potential loss for each club is. It's unlikely any club will gain significantly more members from now on even if the footy season restarts as no members will be able to go to games. Signing up now is effectively a donation to your club.
This time last year we were 97,404. So after being about 5000 ahead before the crisis hit, we are now 400 behind the same time in the season.
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O believe the revenue loss would be substantially bigger than the cost savings made. Anyway we will see. I there is no football played in 2020 I would be expecting a huge loss in the 10-15 range. If less then great. We will see i suppose at the end of the year.
Suggest you get a copy of the 2019 Annual Report and see how much profit we made from some these business units
You are suggesting that for Aligned Leisure for example we made millions in profit. Annual Report shoes that's not the case
We certainly will see at the after the season is complete
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Tax refunds for AFL club members?
Caroline Wilson
The Age
25 April 2020
AFL club members could claim tax refunds on their 2020 subscriptions in an Australian arts industry model being explored by the clubs.
Clubs are waiting on a ruling from the Australian Taxation Office, which would benefit members who continue to financially support their clubs despite the likelihood of being prevented from attending the remainder of the season's games due to coronavirus restrictions.
Geelong chairman Colin Carter is understood to have raised the prospect of clubs exploring the Opera Australia subscribers model at a presidents meeting. Now the recently formed working group of club chiefs working on membership has put forward a proposal to the ATO on behalf of all club members.
Clubs are also looking at a second, less preferred option under which memberships and reserved seating costs could be transformed into tax deductible donations under the Australian Sports Foundation program. Clubs such as Hawthorn, raising money for a new facility at Dingley, would lose six per cent of each donation under the second model.
While no club has seen a mass exodus of members during the crisis, acute sensitivity prevails over club-membership support seen as crucial to the bottom line of the financially stricken football industry.
It has provoked the push for an unprecedented ATO 12-month exemption allowing tax deductible donations to football clubs as the league chiefs work to engage members in a season without match-day attendances.
Opera Australia, Australia's largest arts employer, has ramped up requests for donations during the COVID-19 crisis, as has the Australian Ballet, offering subscribers who forfeit refunds to consider transforming the ticket cost to a tax-deductible donation.
"We are aware of the opera/ballet option," said Collingwood chief Mark Anderson, "and while we haven't needed to at this stage, we're not ruling it out.
"We prefer the traditional football model of memberships tied to attendances at games but we are looking at a number of ways to work with our members as we work towards getting games underway."
Geelong chief Brian Cook confirmed that the Cats had approached the ATO and expected a decision before the end of May. Cook said every club would seek tax relief for their members.
The club chiefs focusing on memberships during the COVID-19 crisis along with Collingwood's Anderson are Justin Reeves (Hawthorn), Cain Liddle (Carlton), Ben Amarfio (North Melbourne), Brendon Gale (Richmond) and Simon Garlick (Fremantle).
Prevailing nervousness around membership – Collingwood's Eddie McGuire spoke forebodingly of a "run on clubs" earlier this month – has produced contrasting responses from clubs.
Jeff Kennett urged Hawk members not to apply for refunds where possible, warning them that their support was required for Hawthorn to remain an unassisted club.
Richmond president Peggy O'Neal, whose club last week passed an AFL-high membership mark of 97,000, took a different approach when she wrote last week to members pointing out that the club was in a "position of strength" thanks to them. But O'Neal urged those whose circumstances had changed to contact the Tigers' membership team.
Anderson, whose monthly payment membership run took place last Friday, said all Collingwood's members had met those payments and that new subscriptions in recent weeks had lifted the club to almost 77,000. "Our members have been superb," he said.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/tax-refunds-for-afl-club-members-20200423-p54mjs.html
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Has anyone done the members survey about the Coronavirus and its affect on the Club and memberships?
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Club email:
From the entire Club, we hope you and your families are well and are keeping safe during this time.
We appreciate your patience and understanding over the past few weeks and thank you for the overwhelming support you’ve shown us. Our membership base is our greatest strength, and collectively our greatest opportunity to come through these uncertain times stronger than ever.
Like much of the world right now, we do not have all the answers. We are however committed to keeping you as informed as possible and ensuring we provide our members with the best outcome now, and into the future. To assist us in achieving this, we invite you to participate in the short survey below. As always, we would appreciate your stuff so we can determine suitable next steps.
Together we have built a powerful and successful football Club and together we will get through this period.
Thank you in advance for your participation, take care and Go Tiges.
Kind regards,
Brendon Gale
Chief Executive Officer
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How will clubs deal with members and reserved seat holders?
Several clubs, including Geelong, Richmond and the Western Bulldogs, have sent surveys to members to test the mood. All clubs hope there are not widespread requests for refunds, although they have obliged where supporters are experiencing financial hardship.
St Kilda and Geelong have emphasised to their fans the desperate financial plight they face if their supporters don't stick with them.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/state-of-play-on-season-restart-for-the-afl-20200508-p54r4w.html
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AFL members offered multiple options for 2020
Peter Ryan
The Age
20 May 2020
AFL members have been encouraged to choose one of four options that "best suit" the person's situation in an email sent from the league on Monday night that outlines options for 2020.
While club members wait to hear from their respective clubs, AFL members have been told they can either maintain their AFL membership, convert to an absentee membership, pause their upcoming payments or ask for a full refund and cancellation, as crowds are unlikely to attend games at the MCG in 2020 due to the coronavirus pandemic.
If a member chooses to maintain their AFL membership for 2020 they will receive a 30 per cent discount on their 2021 membership and, if a club support member, their financial contribution will remain with the club they have nominated.
They can then attend games if crowds are allowed at any point in 2020 and are also eligible for several member packs including tickets to games next season and food and beverage packs.
Those who choose to become an absentee member will be refunded but will not receive a 30 per cent discount on next year's membership or a members' pack. However, they will be required to pay a $170 fee for adults, which would allow them to attend matches in 2020 if crowds return, as well as renew their membership for 2021.
Many members will have already paid the $170 in 2020 through their automatic monthly membership payments.
Members making monthly payments were given the option to pause their upcoming payments having already been contributing through the shutdown. If they do so they will receive a 15 per cent discount on their 2021 membership, a member pack and the ability to return to games if crowds return.
Members had already handed over six of the 10 monthly payments so the pause will save them money but enable the AFL to retain the revenue received.
AFL members who cancel their membership for 2020 will not be able to automatically renew for 2021 and will "no longer receive benefits and entitlements for the 2021 Toyota AFL premiership season and beyond".
The AFL and clubs have been working with the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission and the tax office to work out a range of options to present to members, with clubs expected to roll out the options in the next couple of weeks leading into the June 11 restart.
The MCC is reviewing the full impact to their membership season, which runs from September 2019 through to August 2020, following the AFL's announcement.
Collingwood president Eddie McGuire urged members to hold off on asking for a refund if at all possible when the shutdown started, saying they didn't want a "run on the clubs", but AFL CEO Gill McLachlan has tread a more diplomatic line since, saying the league understood if people needed a refund.
Membership provides a significant proportion of revenue for all clubs but some Victorian teams such as Geelong and Essendon also earn a large percentage of revenue through their reserved seat income.
Geelong, the Western Bulldogs and Richmond surveyed a percentage of their members in recent weeks to gain stuff on which options might be most suitable to them. The Bulldogs said they have had very few members cancel their memberships despite not being able to attend games.
Even with games returning, clubs are being hit hard financially as the broadcast revenue earned through games being played without crowds goes to the AFL rather than clubs. Clubs make money through gate receipts, membership and sponsorship.
Club CEOs such as Carlton's Cain Liddle, Richmond's Brendon Gale, Collingwood's Mark Anderson and Hawthorn's Justin Reeves have been working on arrangements for members since the season was interrupted.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-members-offered-three-options-for-2020-memberships-20200519-p54u91.html
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ACCC to 'monitor' sporting teams as AFL clubs begin to offer refunds to fans.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/power-offers-to-refund-membership-fees-ahead-of-afl-resumption/12267790
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From a club email to members:
At Richmond, that collective commitment obviously extends to our members. Our membership base is our greatest strength. It is also our greatest opportunity to come out of this period stronger than ever. The support of our members has been incredible and your willingness to steer the course with us is greatly appreciated. It makes me incredibly proud.
The Club continues to consider options in relation to your 2020 membership and have updated our Membership Terms & Conditions accordingly.
We will be in contact with members during the below timeframes with further information around how you can manage your membership/s moving forward.
Membership Type Date
General Admission, Country & Interstate members Wednesday, May 27
Reserved Seat, Reserved Bay & Premium members Wednesday, June 3
Stay healthy and thanks again for your wonderful support.
Brendon Gale
Chief Executive Officer
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RFC email:
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As of 28/05/2020
97,255
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'Amazing' Tiger members stay committed
Jourdan Canil
AAP
28 May 2020
Meanwhile, the club has been buoyed by the loyalty of members in tough financial circumstances during the coronavirus pandemic.
Like most AFL clubs, the Tigers this month communicated a range of options to their huge membership base, including offering members the right to a full refund.
It comes in a year when supporters are unlikely to attend matches live, at least for the foreseeable future, because of COVID-19 restrictions put in place by state governments.
As of Thursday, the Tigers said "very few" members had requested a full refund and the "vast majority" had committed to retaining their existing memberships.
Richmond supporters have even continued to purchase club memberships in recent weeks - taking the overall tally for 2020 to 97,255.
That number is only slightly down on the Tigers' end-of-year record total of 103,358 members last year.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale said supporters' loyalty would help give the club every chance of coming out of the pandemic in a strong position on and off the field.
"The support from our members has been amazing," Gale said.
"They've shown us once again how committed they are to their club.
"They have been the foundation of our recent success and are our greatest opportunity to come out of this period in a position of strength.
"We know that a lot of people are doing it tough right now, so we appreciate their support, and we know they're as excited as us for football to start again."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/440284/young-tiger-ruptures-acl-amazing-members-stay-committed)
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AFL clubs trying to convert membership payments into tax-deductible gifts are at risk of breaching federal consumer and tax law, and supporters could be left bearing the cost, experts have warned.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/afl-clubs-risk-misleading-fans-over-membership-amid-coronavirus/12297102
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/scheme-for-afl-fans-to-claim-club-membership-fees-as-tax-deduction-labelled-a-rort/news-story/9ece38d9f541d8b09bca6a017f3b42fe
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From Club email:
You can now pick up your 2020 members cap, scarf or beanie.
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Do we have a picture of the beanie? I can't find an image on the Tiger store website.
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A beanie?
Didn't know there was a beanie
Club XII members just got given the cap
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As of 22/07/2020
98,445
100k again? "It would be an incredible feat in the current circumstances and a massive statement from our fans".
source: RFC twitter
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Great effort.
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I read the article for the club are asking members to join and get to 100K. I'm not sure that isn't smacking of a little greed in the current climate. 98.5K is unbelievable.
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As of 24/07/2020
98,614
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I read the article for the club are asking members to join and get to 100K. I'm not sure that isn't smacking of a little greed in the current climate. 98.5K is unbelievable.
The club is probably facing massive red ink losses this year. Your criticism is harsh and unfair my friend.
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As of 04/08/2020
98,786
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Up to 99k according to Balta.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1291319866780073984
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Incredibly 647 memberships have been generously donated by fellow Tiger Army supporters to those who would otherwise be unable to continue their membership due to the impact of on-going health crisis 💛 📞 for more - tige.rs/RequestACall
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
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As of 10/08/2020
99,017
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Amazing effort by the supporters. This will shield the club from financial disaster. Our supporters didnt ask for refunds, club used government programs, whilst we will take a hammering on gate receipts and gaming revenues and lmpacts from aligned it would have been much worse if our supporters hadnt stayed on board.
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As of 11/08/2020
99,250
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As of 13/08/2020
99,380
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Last update 3 days ago. Must be very close now.
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As of 16/08/2020
99,500
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Email says the Club is going to reward in some small way members who have retained their full membership:
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As of 19/08/2020
99,750
source: RFC twitter
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Are we there yet
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Announcement tomorrow?
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As of 21/08/2020
99,789
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It is official
We've done it
100,000 members in 2020
Source
RFC Twitter
:bow :bow
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:clapping
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/801432/stuff
100,196 to be precise
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The Age says only 1% of members have asked for refunds across the AFL & clubs.
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Makes you proud of the members , havent seen it on the news yet
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I read somewhere that the Weagles have 99k members
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As of 01/09/2020
100,242
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Eagles hit 100k.
Lots of quokka members I'd say.
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Unfortunately the Eagles eneded up with the biggest amount of memberships this year.
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Thats ok. Weve done a remarkable job getting 100,000 members 3 years in a row.
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Unfortunately the Eagles eneded up with the biggest amount of memberships this year.
Only by 300 odd
Think the membership numbers for the entire comp this year are extraordinary. Not many got to see games live
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Unfortunately the Eagles eneded up with the biggest amount of memberships this year.
Only by 300 odd
Think the membership numbers for the entire comp this year are extraordinary. Not many got to see games live
I think it's a fantastic effort by our supporter base.
It's so unfortunate that covid19 has ruined what should've been a very strong fiscal year again for the club, coming off the back of another Premiership.
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2020 CLUB MEMBERSHIP BREAKDOWN
CLUB TOTAL
West Coast 100,776
Richmond 100,420
Collingwood 76,862
Hawthorn 76,343
Carlton 67,035
Essendon 66,686
Geelong 60,066
Adelaide 54,891
Fremantle 51,577
St Kilda 48,588
Sydney 48,322
Port Adelaide 46,820
Melbourne 40,571
West. Bulldogs 38,876
North Melbourne 38,667
GWS GIANTS 30,841
Brisbane Lions 29,277
Gold Coast 16,236
Total 992,854
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AFLW membership increased again after its fourth season, with an all-time record of 20,849 members (up 48.9%) signing up.
The majority of the growth came via expansion teams with three new clubs topping the charts in West Coast Eagles (3,318), Richmond (2,656) and St Kilda (2,299).
https://www.afl.com.au/news/497923/eagles-hit-100k-as-five-clubs-post-record-membership-totals
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Thank you to all our members
The boys thank all of the 100,000 strong and bold 2020 members.
VIDEO: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/thank-you-tiger-army/
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More "Thank you Tiger Army" pics here: https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1307202404849348608
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From Club email:
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Hi OE,
As a thank you for your incredible support this year, we invite you to join us live from the Hub for the Richmond Member’s Variety Hour, proudly presented by Jeep and nib.
Hosted by Matthew Richardson and Liberty Paschke, you’ll hear from some of our players and coaches who’ll preview the upcoming Finals Series, give you a peek into life in the Hub and recap season 2020.
Registration closes 5pm Thursday 24 September or when capacity is reached. Registrations are limited and only open to pledge members, so please ensure you only RSVP if you can attend and only register once per family.
WHEN: 7pm Friday 25 September
WHERE: Virtually via Zoom! Register via the RSVP button below and return to this link on Friday
WHO: This invitation is only for 2020 pledge members and limited spaces are available
We hope you can join us!
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Did everyone get this?
100,000 on Zoom ;D.
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WHEN: 7pm Friday 25 September
WHERE: Virtually via Zoom! Register via the RSVP button below and return to this link on Friday
WHO: This invitation is only for 2020 pledge members and limited spaces are available
We hope you can join us!
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Did everyone get this?
100,000 on Zoom ;D.
Yes.
Hope it goes better than the last one I had as part of my Club XII membership
we had a pre-match briefing and it froze :damnpc
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Tom Browne said we have the largest membership in Queensland aside from the Lions. We over 3000 Qld RFC members. Next best the Pies is only around 1700.
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Tom Browne said we have the largest membership in Queensland aside from the Lions. We over 3000 Qld RFC members. Next best the Pies is only around 1700.
:clapping
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The Club is have a special Grand Final preview Zoom meeting for members from 5pm tonight.
Club email:
Hi,
You're invited to our exclusive Richmond Member Variety Hour live from the Hub, as we preview the 2020 Toyota AFL Grand Final.
Proudly presented by Jeep and nib and hosted by Matthew Richardson, you'll hear from some of our players and coaches who'll share some insights ahead of our Grand Final clash against the Cats this Saturday evening at the Gabba.
Spaces are limited, so be sure to register early. Registrations close 12pm AEDT Thursday 22 October or when capacity is reached. We ask kindly that you only RSVP if you can attend and only register once per family.
WHEN: 5pm- 6pm AEDT, Thursday October 22
WHERE: Virtually via Zoom! Register via the RSVP button below
WHO: 2020 Club members
Please note, if the event reaches capacity, you may register on the waitlist here. Spaces are not guaranteed however we will do our best to accommodate you.
Should you be unable to attend, a recording will be made available to all members at the completion of the event.
We hope you can join us.
Go Tiges!
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Unfortunately the Eagles eneded up with the biggest amount of memberships this year.
Only by 300 odd
Think the membership numbers for the entire comp this year are extraordinary. Not many got to see games live
I think it's a fantastic effort by our supporter base.
It's so unfortunate that covid19 has ruined what should've been a very strong fiscal year again for the club, coming off the back of another Premiership.
I have a different view here, there’s always a positive lag the following year from a flag.
This is the best year to get that lag given how parlous the financials are going to be this year
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You're invited to our exclusive Richmond Member Variety Hour live from the Hub, as we preview the 2020 Toyota AFL Grand Final.
Proudly presented by Jeep and nib and hosted by Matthew Richardson, you'll hear from some of our players and coaches who'll share some insights ahead of our Grand Final clash against the Cats this Saturday evening at the Gabba.
WHEN: 5pm- 6pm AEDT, Thursday October 22
WHERE: Virtually via Zoom! Register via the RSVP button below
WHO: 2020 Club members
Bump.
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What’s the news?